#!process NSA offer (io)

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muted bison
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what team did u join

short terrace
proven edge
hazy cobalt
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How long did the secruity process take for you?

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@short terrace

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Can you provide your timeline?

short terrace
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But i heard it can take up to 2 month or more

muted bison
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Can I dm you there’s so many steps

hazy cobalt
muted bison
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I’m actually amazed they have this much money

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What tc did you get

hazy cobalt
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Its defense budget. That's like 40% of US GDP

hazy cobalt
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initial offer

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as well

muted bison
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What number did they offer u tho

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80k or 85k?

hazy cobalt
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85k

muted bison
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Sickkk I’m waiting for mine to come in a few days after they approve my docs

hazy cobalt
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you?

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ah

muted bison
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How long do u think it will be till first day idk what to do rn seems like 6 months is avg

hazy cobalt
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Wait, did you finish the Security Forms (Standard Form 86) through the Candidate Experience Security Portal (CESP) system?

muted bison
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Na I’m even before that I still have to provide resume hours worked and fill basic forms

hazy cobalt
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ah

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hold up, let me bring up the chart they sent me on the times

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dm'd the employment timeline to you

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but at least a year at most

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before you get to the first day

muted bison
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Well we are already at CJO stage

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So there’s only 6 months left

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I applied in December last year

hazy cobalt
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mind you, time frames may vary significantly by candidate. In my case, I applied around august last year, and I am still in the suitability process thing

muted bison
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Did they even do polygraphs for you yet

hazy cobalt
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nah

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It takes a while tbh

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better keep it in the backburner and apply for other jobs for the time being

muted bison
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Damn ya I guess so. When did you get CJO though

hazy cobalt
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nov-dec

muted bison
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Wtf and they still haven’t moved have they done anything

hazy cobalt
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like i said, this shit takes a while

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the contacted my ref

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other than that nothing yet

muted bison
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Ya this is doomed I’m still full job searching

hazy cobalt
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same. I have been applying for other jobs for the tb

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my rec, if you graduated last dec, just volunteer at a lab like I am or get a partime

muted bison
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Na I’m just receiving my degree this week with a may 2024 grad date

hazy cobalt
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oh nice

muted bison
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Damn I got CJO this week and I’m filling out paperwork idk if I can move that quick would be cool I’m trying to get stuff to them fast on my end . I went a different route by doing in person interviews it sped up my whole process

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Btw how much tc are y’all getting I got 88k I was surprised they gave me a higher level then other people I know that got in

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Just two interns new grad

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1 year 3 months

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Ya I was happier with 88k I really wanted to get to 90k ng

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D.c is kinda pricy

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I mean you can find 500sqft apt for $1800-2000 kind of

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Those places look terrible though it’s like living in suburban or rural America

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Im 21 and I already live in Midwest in suburbs without any social life I want to move to a city so bad and make some friends go out more

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I kinda don’t make enough but 88k should be fine for me to afford going out more im young enough my bills are only apt, insurance, and then just hobbies and whatever I spend going out . Idt savings that big a deal I’ll increase tc quickly I got out of uni 1.5 years early so it’s free money

short terrace
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What avg rent price at those place

muted bison
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D.C is like 1900 for 450 sqft. It’s pricy as heck but the apartments do look nice

muted bison
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Well for me my main want is to live around other young rich ppl and get to hang out after work and go out more preferably in a walkable place I can leave my car behind. I need to make connections and living alone in a apt in the suburbs won’t cut it. Also I’m trying to get into UMD and have the nsa pay for it so I can potentially make some friends there and I’ll get my masters done

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So I’m like specifically looking at inner city and what the neighborhoods like, am I going to be able to date ppl easily and go back to my apt, can I hang out with my friends without having to commute in, and I want to be into a lot of hobbies like boxing, kayaking, tennis, and just whatever’s popular if it helps me get a better social life going.

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Idk what area I want to live in specifically yet I need to talk to more people my age that are there and see if I can make up my mind

muted bison
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@blissful stratus after looking for a bit this place seemed to match everything i wanted and pricing isn't too bad like $1870/mo. The place is half a mile from the capital park and its super walkable around that area and theres probably a ton to do after work. Sure commute is 30 mins but im hoping I can carpool with someone else that lives around the area, and in our benefits they mention they do some carpooling so there has to be other nsa employees working here i could just ride with and chill each way.
On my post-tax income of $5343/month, rent would be 35% of that which is not bad, bit over the ideal 30% rent but if I scale back in other areas I could even it out. Also im just so young saving money isn't that big a deal over quality of life, ill be ending up with way more savings then I expect anyways. 64120-22440 = 41680 left over, and ill probably only need < 20k to live on the rest of the year even living well so that would leave $21680 into savings

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muted bison
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I think these apt come with garage parking it says. Ya commute is going to suck but I’m just going to have to put up with it for 1-2 years till I can transfer to a better company. My life’s so boring out where I live rn in Kansas City, I am waiting for any escape from here into somewhere I’m happier.

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I wonder if any of that "Tele-Work" stuff is possible at some point after getting in there

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I’m struggling to fill out my forms rn, I got everything done but the work history I worked a dumb retail job in high school I have no way of contacting the supervisor who I barely even remember .

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I sent an email to the company asking if they could give me a contact to put down

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Well I still have two weeks so that’s fine but I need to sort that out, once it’s through I think I’m mostly safe. I worked an internship in another country and I don’t have any us citizens to put down but I can put down a foreign citizen, idk what to do there I need to email the Hr and ask on Monday

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After that though I’m ready to submit I think

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What stage are you on again how long have u been waiting after getting clearance documents in

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Maybe they’ll move fast for me it is only supposed to take max 5 months from this point

muted bison
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Ya I don’t have exactly foreign relations I have foreign family but I don’t contact them often

short terrace
muted bison
short terrace
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Oh

muted bison
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Do you know if there are limits to the nsa tution funding for masters

short terrace
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got mine cjo too now 85.052k

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odd rounding number with 52

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dollar

muted bison
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That’s wild given you have two YOE

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They gave you 7/3 right?

short terrace
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but it more related to IT and nothing related to programming/swe

short terrace
muted bison
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Pay grade

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Says it next to the number

short terrace
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yeah

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grade 7 step 3

muted bison
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Ya I got grade 7 step 4

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Are you starting on your security clearance

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I’m submitting mine today

short terrace
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i just got cjo

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and accepted it

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still w aiting on sf 88 form

muted bison
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They’ll send it today then

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Hope this process goes fast I don’t have much time

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Lease expires for me in June and then I’m couch surfing

short terrace
muted bison
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I can’t make any plans rn without knowing when I start

short terrace
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i see

short terrace
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damn this is a chore

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to fill out

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also annoyying when save button dont work and save dont work even when i press save

muted bison
short terrace
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or it never fixed for u

muted bison
short terrace
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One of them is just yes or no

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If u know anyone out of u.s

muted bison
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try hitting next

short terrace
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Did

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Say i didnt save

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When save button work

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And another one is when i try edit one of my relative info

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I made mistake on

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And try save it

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Save button dont work

short terrace
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@muted bison

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how did u splitur resdience

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i keep getitng do not meet min residence history

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when i put more than 2 year

muted bison
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I emailed them

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No response yet

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I’m done filling everything out but I can’t fking submit it

short terrace
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yeah same

short terrace
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all they say is contact them by email

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of the problem

muted bison
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bruhh i contacted my recruter and he gave me another email to email

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i just sent it early this morning so ill tell you if i find a soluttion

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You have not met the minimum employment history years requirement. This section will not be marked complete until the minimum employment history years requirement is met.

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bro how tf am i supposed to meet 10 YEARS of employment history before 18

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maybe just put down unemployed lol

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YEP

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That works

short terrace
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lol

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so how my resdience

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shit going work

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i try putting one under my 18 birth day

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getting different error

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nvm

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now it work

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if i put something before 18 birthday

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head put it close to my 18 birthday

muted bison
muted bison
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Ayo

hazy cobalt
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how far are you guys on your security forms

muted bison
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got mine resubmitted to me to make edits

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fking sucks

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one week of waiting gone for nothing but at least its all correct now

hazy cobalt
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ah that sucks

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now its the wait

muted bison
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Do u think they really intend to ever give out these jobs

hazy cobalt
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a few months, but yea they will. I heard they are contacting everyone now who submitted the forms on Nov/dec

muted bison
hazy cobalt
muted bison
hazy cobalt
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and afterwords another separate email stating "your investigative questionnaire was accepted."

muted bison
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Wait nvm

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Yes I did

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What’s next then

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On 4-29-2024, your investigative questionnaire was approved. Your forms will now be reviewed to determine the next step in your security processing.

hazy cobalt
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yea, then comes the background investigation, followed by the Suitability Processing (Polygraph, Psychological Evaluation, Security Interview (SI), or Language Testing)

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shit takes a while though

muted bison
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Ok I see

hazy cobalt
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you can find more info here

muted bison
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Tomorrow I’m having a meeting with them to discuss it

hazy cobalt
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meeting?

muted bison
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Ya it’s a new hire process explanation

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They inviting all the new hires to attend and learn how this works

hazy cobalt
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oh nice

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is it listed in their website?

muted bison
hazy cobalt
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huh, I didn't see it. The only email I got from NSA recruitment was about a chat on May 8th

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Can you send me the event link?

muted bison
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Maybe

short terrace
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mine still hasnt been approved 😦

short terrace
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@muted bison damn u got lucky then

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u got approved veryquickly

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cause they answer in chat it may take few week

muted bison
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are u in the meeting

short terrace
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yeah

muted bison
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did they say anything

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just that it will take 6 months - 12 months for suitability

short terrace
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u suppose to go nsa washington location

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to take the polygraph test and will reimburse u for the trip

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but they lie about how long it take

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time line didnt say 6-12 month

muted bison
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1-5 months is what that reads huh

muted bison
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Idt they know imo

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Length of time depends on your background

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For someone like me it is short because I’m young anyways

short terrace
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Got approved

short terrace
muted bison
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Fr dood

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The only people getting reject like that are the less important roles

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They are hiring thousands of SWE

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Can’t get enough of them

muted bison
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I wonder how long until the next step now

short terrace
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no idea

hazy cobalt
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5-6 months

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if not more

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it depends on the person

muted bison
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ya man thats cooked

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im grinding for new grad again

hazy cobalt
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same

muted bison
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u been in process since december offer right?

hazy cobalt
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yea

muted bison
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fuckk and tthey still haven pushed u forward or contacted u

hazy cobalt
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oh they have

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contacted me that is

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for additional info and stuff

muted bison
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ya but no fjo

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damn man

hazy cobalt
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(shrug) it takes a while 6-8 months on avg,

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I heard for some people it takes a year

muted bison
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If it’s 6 months I’d feel ok, but 12 is just damn

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I heard from a guy that took 1 year

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But he failed the poly 3 times

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They literally said 6 though so it’s not really an option

hazy cobalt
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yea, at this point, I am leaving it at the backburner while applying for other jobs

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so in the worst case, I might have something even if the NSA thing doesn't pan out

muted bison
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I should do that rly just need to be motivated

muted bison
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Saw an article on current wait times

muted bison
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I wish mine went by within 6 months

proven edge
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This thread has definitely aged well

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Still being used

hazy cobalt
muted bison
short terrace
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All my people of reference

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Seem got interviewed by today

muted bison
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Wat

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idk who i even put down for reference

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some random ass people

muted bison
short terrace
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Prob

short terrace
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Just have one investigator interview them