!process trying to decide between

[astral quail]

ms

[toxic sedge]

I would say ms for the brand name but that's because I'm not familiar with Asana or what they do. If you're a junior though, perhaps check which one has a higher return offer rate.

[wind sentinel]

yep i'm a junior

i've heard asana has a really high return offer rate. not sure about microsoft exactly but i assume it's decently high as well?

correct me if i'm wrong though

[toxic sedge]

Yeah I know ms does but these days, most "Safe" companies aren't safe anymore

Which pays better? Also location preference, I'm assuming you're based in Canada

Some other factors I might consider are company size, team/technology you'd be working on, wlb, other benefits, and their intern program

[idle fern]

Asana ez

[wind sentinel]

yeah i'm based out of canada but ideally i'd like to work in the us after grad, which is why i'm hesitant about asana

[desert bronze]

take microsoft, their ro rate is usually pretty high, but unsure about this year

[wind sentinel]

i've heard of interns being able to switch offices for ft for asana

but i don't want to bet on that happening esp in this economy

[sharp wind]

I heard FT RO for ms was low but I might be mistaken

[wind sentinel]

for more context i would be on the global experiences and platform team on microsoft, which owns outlook and some microsoft 365 services

so not azure

[turbid junco]

Did asana not let u do SF office for intern?

[wind sentinel]

they put me on a waitlist for switching over, i think they're getting close to headcount for sf

[turbid junco]

Ah I c personally I’d go Microsoft then since ur goal is to do US, but I did talk with a ft asana person who was at Vancouver office for intern and switched to NYC pre easily I think

[wind sentinel]

my other concern is that i'm not sure if asana would actually be an exciting product to work on? i've heard a lot of people say it's just glorified atlassian

[wind sentinel]

oh cool good to know! did they graduate this year?

[turbid junco]

Ye they did

[turbid junco]

That’s fair it probs is team dependent, I heard asana has some interesting problems to solve tho so yeh

Overall tho I think Microsoft is a safe bet esp if u could switch teams after ur internship for new grad

Since they are probs more flexible with that

[wind sentinel]

yeah that's a good point, tyty

i don't actually know whether microsoft would be more flexible about team-switching 🤔 ik asana is

[turbid junco]

Oh interesting

U should try reaching out to asana to talk about past intern projects

Then u can see if the work would be interesting etc

I think asana has a really nice culture and wlb and their TC is pre good for new grad also so u probs can’t really go wrong with what u choose

[wind sentinel]

yep but that also makes it a tough decision hahah

[wraith summit]

@wind sentinel mind if i ask what asana pays for van specifically

[wind sentinel]

iirc it’s something like 53 cad/hour

nothing amazing

[vocal knoll]

Do you wanna be in CA or US new grad?

[vocal knoll]

GXP hmm

Tbh GXP is not bad

They had a really really high RO rate

[wind sentinel]

ideally us

do you know anyone who interned at GXP?

i’ve heard teams at msft can be really hit or miss

[vocal knoll]

yeah I know like 4-5 GXP people yeah

Everyone I know of got an RO

I think everyone is going back

[wind sentinel]

do you know anyone who worked in taos specifically?

oh that’s good to hear

[vocal knoll]

TAOS is chill they have a $6k espresso machine and the people are really nice

Is that your guaranteed team

I heard it switches a lot, someone ik got switched from what he thought he was gonna be on

[cerulean carbon]

To my understanding, MS usually puts you with the team you interview with

I doubt you will have much say in your team, but I'm not entirely sure

[wind sentinel]

ah darn it's not guaranteed, sucks that they switch people around

i've definitely been pestering my recruiter quite a bit about teams though so hopefully that'll do something lmao

[wind sentinel]

yeah this was true for me, both of my interviewers were under GXP but in different sub-teams

microsoft recruiter also just told me that ROs are for the same org (so i'd still be under GXP) and same location generally so idk if there's much flexibility in moving around

honestly my only concern rn with microsoft is that idk if i'd like living in redmond ft after grad

[cerulean carbon]

Btw can you tell me about your interviews? Have mine in a few days and want to get as much info as I can on others’ experiences

[wind sentinel]

pretty standard big tech interviews lol, just a couple of behavioural qs and then a leetcode medium

x2

[cerulean carbon]

What were the question types?

Like general categories

[wind sentinel]

well one of them was LRU cache

[cerulean carbon]

Oh lol