I wouldn't have a huge title on the top
#2x faang only 1 interview
gleaming meadow
I'd remove the course work cause you have some experience. Most people aren't going to know what it really is.
I like to move skills/what not to the bottom usually.
last crane
or at the very least shorten the coursework to only the most relevant stuff
gleaming meadow
or at the very least shorten the coursework to only the most relevant stuff
^this is good too
I usually leave coursework when they don't have much experience. It's more of a style choice for that one
last crane
work experience should always come first b/c experience should exemplify skills
gleaming meadow
^
summer summit
aws usually gives you a project
those r the 3 parts of my project
gleaming meadow
those r the 3 parts of my project
can you explain what the project was?
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made a metrics dashboard
gleaming meadow
I'd try to quantifiy this line with numbers instead of words
last crane
skills is saying "trust me bro i know this", experience is saying "look i know this i've used it". skills is good at the bottom as a summary of the shit you know how to use imo
gleaming meadow
What aws the bug? curious more
summer summit
theres not rly any numbers tho
gleaming meadow
this is just fluff
summer summit
well the thing was
twitter didn't rly give me a project
so i worked as a full time employee
gleaming meadow
did u do ticket work?
summer summit
ye
summer summit
so get rid of the agile?
does this explain why i only got 1 interview tho
rejections everywehre else
got some non auto oas and thats it
rippling + samsara
last crane
what software did you make your resume in?
gleaming meadow
I'd consider removing one and expanding on the others
gleaming meadow
what software did you make your resume in?
^
last crane
it's not outside the realm of possibility that its being parsed badly
gleaming meadow
projects are fine
tbh that's why I mentioned the top
I think it might not be hitting ur name
gleaming meadow
does this explain why i only got 1 interview tho
oh I was just going over everything
as well
last crane
title is for when you've had enough time in your career to distinguish yourself
gleaming meadow
u are a ugrad kid
u have a lot of good experience as well
are you looking for internship or ng?
summer summit
internship
twitter freshman
zon sophomore
should i do this instead?
for the top
summer summit
are you looking for internship or ng?
ngl kinda both
if i get new grad ill grad early
but heard nothing back from ng yet
but haven't applied to too many
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o fr
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i feel like early career positions are just not available atm
last crane
it is definitely an unfortunate market
summer summit
no phone?
gleaming meadow
otherwise I will stalk you
last crane
how many have you applied to?
gleaming meadow
lots of postings out there
summer summit
i applied to like
gleaming meadow
ot just collect phone numbers
summer summit
ot just collect phone numbers
ive been getting a lot of texts recently
from ranndom chinese ppl
gleaming meadow
I'm like 300 in
gleaming meadow
and I think I've heard back from
last crane
i'm 200 in
gleaming meadow
20-30%?
summer summit
sheesh
gleaming meadow
Usually apply the day of
summer summit
which notable ones
summer summit
i apply day of
gleaming meadow
i dont network tho
u should start
most of mine
come from talking to someone
and getting flagged
last crane
network with people
what do you think are the best ways to network
gleaming meadow
what do you think are the best ways to network
in person if you can
otherwise I do a lot of cold emailing
summer summit
wait how do u do it
gleaming meadow
linkedin cold emailing
summer summit
i go to a non target t15
summer summit
is it a good cs program though
gleaming meadow
and I get shat on for being from canada
summer summit
our cs program not very notable
last crane
what does T15 T25 mean
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school rankings
gleaming meadow
top 25 school
gleaming meadow
pog
a girl I mentor's bro is there rn
and I have a few friends
great school
but look
school matters a bit
if ur cold applying
last crane
yeah i love it here. massive pain in the ass but generally enjoyable
gleaming meadow
and the opportunities you have
BUT
if u work ur ass off
and you show people you want something
they will respond
last crane
yeah my school probably makes up for me not networking as much
point being networking is really valuable
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shitty cs school
gleaming meadow
u just won't get anything handed to you at all
and you need to understand that
u gotta work for it
summer summit
how do u cold email
gleaming meadow
which is what I think most cs kids fail to understand
summer summit
no one responded on linkedin
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lemme show u
gleaming meadow
that's really it
last crane
which is what I think most cs kids fail to understand
the amount of people i know here at UIUC who are mad they're not getting internships b/c they thought they wouldnt have to work for it is hilarious
gleaming meadow
the amount of people i know here at UIUC who are mad they're not getting interns...
its dumb
happens at my schol
and I need to explain to people
they need to put in effort to see effort
I think I've spent hundreds of hours researching, writting emails, studying, etc.
to get a job
and they just send apps and want it
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Hey name, my name is ___ and I study computer science and mathematics at university. I have applied to this role. I would appreciate any insight if there's anything i can do to improve my candidacy.
or
Hi Lauren! I recently applied to an internship position at your company and was hoping if you can confirm if you've received my application. I'd love to talk to you to learn more about your company and/or the position.
how bad do u think vandy is in terms of getting flagged for jobs
but having such a hard time now
gleaming meadow
how bad do u think vandy is in terms of getting flagged for jobs
I think ur fine
do u attach ur resume?
summer summit
to the message?
gleaming meadow
yes?
summer summit
no
gleaming meadow
...
summer summit
ive been sending emails too
gleaming meadow
EMAILS
gleaming meadow
dont matter the time
gleaming meadow
send in morning
and schedule at the write time
add ur resume
after you fix it
gleaming meadow
you have to make them think you're worth it
then u keep trying
or you can give up
it's your call
summer summit
Hi Nazrin,
Hope you’re doing well!
My name is , and I’m a Computer Science student at University. I understand that there are many applicants to go through, but would it be possible to get an update on my application within the next two weeks? I’m reaching out because I am currently interviewing with Databricks and Samsara for their SWE intern positions. I don’t want to miss out on a potential opportunity with Citi, so would it be possible to begin the possible soon? May I send my resume to you? Thank you so much for your assistance!
Thanks,
name
gleaming meadow
Hi Nazrin,
Hope you’re doing well!
My name is , and I’m a Computer Science...
....
I wouldn't respond to that
jaunty ermine
it's not outside the realm of possibility that its being parsed badly
any recommendations on how to test this?
gleaming meadow
"my name is xyz and I'm in cs at xyz. I've worked at some great places like xyz and xyz. I've been really interested in what xyz does and am curious about it. Maybe expand on xyz a bit. If you'd like I'd love to have a call with you; otherwise I've attached my resume below just so you have it on hand. Cheers!"
I usually get more personable
with jokes and what not
gleaming meadow
like this makes me go
ok
why would htey work for me
kinda feels a bit insulting
cause if u get an offer from the other 2
no offense
you aren't taking citi
period
last crane
any recommendations on how to test this?
not sure there's a consistent way to b/c there are so many different ATS systems. when you upload your resume does it autofill pretty well? do you name technologies in your work experience?
gleaming meadow
wtf are u talking about
summer summit
why did i even apply
gleaming meadow
try other ones
summer summit
workday parses decently too
gleaming meadow
make the format more consistent maybe then
gleaming meadow
well just cause it works on some
doesn't mean all
resumes to me
are supposed to be
simple and readable
you want them easy enough
so someone with 0 tech background
can look at it and go
oh wow this is a great resume
not have to search for everything
cause if I need to search for something
jaunty ermine
not sure there's a consistent way to b/c there are so many different ATS systems...
my projects and my last work experience usually combine but idk how to fix that tbh
gleaming meadow
then you've lost me
last crane
yeah @summer summit thats a big thing that strikes me about your resume. even with tech knowledge im not totally sure what's going on.
gleaming meadow
ive made it a lot more clear tho
clear to you maybe
but not to other people
ask someone who has no idea
to read it over
and to try and understand it
gleaming meadow
I'm critical of resumes
last crane
the content is good! just might need to be reframed
gleaming meadow
the content is good! just might need to be reframed
^
summer summit
like
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i feel like the bullet poitns i can't rly change too much
gleaming meadow
a bit confusing for people who might be non cs
summer summit
cause i've been changing them so much
gleaming meadow
i feel like the bullet poitns i can't rly change too much
oh you can 100%
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and i feel like i've refined them a lot
gleaming meadow
and i feel like i've refined them a lot
I have over 300 versions of my resume
for this period
38
gleaming meadow
?
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like my bullet points
last crane
like when i write a line of my resume i think "did X for(or in order to) Y achieving Z as a result"
like this is one of my lines:
"Engineered a unified course search platform, consolidating the university’s course API, historic GPA data, and
RateMyProfessors.com ratings to enhance the student course search experience."
gleaming meadow
I ususally try and tell a story
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• Spearheaded end-to-end SaaS tool, saving PMs 6 hours weekly by using AWS Boto3 Python CDK and AWS QuickSight
like how would u reword this?
gleaming meadow
I do
what is the project in the first and a board overview
and then I go more into details on how I did it
last crane
• Spearheaded end-to-end SaaS tool, saving PMs 6 hours weekly by using AWS Bo...
Think about the verb and the adjectives? Like, removing some words, you’re saying you "speerheaded a tool". that kind of wording is harder to mentally parse
last crane
you speerhead actions or initiatives
gleaming meadow
^
last crane
you spearheaded the creation of the tool
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Spearheaded end-to-end SaaS project
gleaming meadow
an example of how I used it
I'd stay away from complex words
if you don't know how to use it
sometimes simple is best at the start
and then focus on improving
gleaming meadow
I mean if you work at twitter and aws
gleaming meadow
u should be fine for content
summer summit
and then the auth service
gleaming meadow
you just have to make us understand
last crane
yeah im not sure i love google's format personally. it's different from how people usually talk IRL. I got groceries which made me less hungry, by going to the store. feels stilted
gleaming meadow
yeah im not sure i love google's format personally. it's different from how peop...
go eat mr. toad
summer summit
its so late in the recrutiing season tho
gleaming meadow
get some mushrooms
gleaming meadow
I got an interview in 6 minutes
gleaming meadow
i rly gotta put all my eggs in palantir
that's a bad thought as well
you'll just try ur best and see what happens
gleaming meadow
its so late in the recrutiing season tho
not really
yall doom so much on here
it's fucking funny
it's never the end for anything
summer summit
thats cause im not gettin gnaything
gleaming meadow
just keep at it
last crane
companies are all in different phases with their hiring
gleaming meadow
and you'll find something
cause behaviours like that
will make companies not what to hire you
it's nice
but not the end of the world
last crane
ive heard some people say it's possible there'll be another wave of openings in january because of a new fiscal year and higher budgets
gleaming meadow
ive heard some people say it's possible there'll be another wave of openings in ...
^
gleaming meadow
I think you're missing the point friend
what we are trying to say is
just focus on doing the best you can
and regardless
everything will be well at the end
you might get a fanng
you might not
it really isn't the end of the world
you have what
25 years to work most likely
maybe more
a lot can change from now to then
1 job isnt going to change you forever
last crane
also with the google format, it makes you put technologies at the end. often, the tech is the interesting part of what you did.
summer summit
Ic
Its different tho
I have expectations
And standards i hold for myself since what i get isnt about me getting a nice fat cushy salary
last crane
my thought process is just focusing on being secure in myself and my experience. way less experienced people will get great internships mostly because they're delusional enough to present themselves well
last crane
the world isn't obligated to know your worth
gleaming meadow
And standards i hold for myself since what i get isnt about me getting a nice fa...
you sound delusional
look at the market
and be realistic my dude
I know it's harsh
but having the expectation that you need to make xyz
isn't going to help you in the long run
inner pine
ive heard some people say it's possible there'll be another wave of openings in ...
Hopefully they open ng jobs more than intern 🤞
gleaming meadow
what's been said is be open and go with the steps and chances you have
inner pine
Or at least =
gleaming meadow
Or at least =
I agree
summer summit
Ur right
gleaming meadow
you're just going to be sad with what you don't have
if you live a life like that
last crane
Im saying the same thing
im kinda just repeating what @gleaming meadow is saying. you are not owed anything. it is possible for you to have worth and simultaneously get absolutely nothing. it's important to be secure mostly because it's motivation to keep moving relentlessly to demand the world recognize your value.
gleaming meadow
and secure also doesn't mean being like I know my worth
knowing your worth means nothing unless you have an offer
because you do not define your worth in this market
the market does
last crane
^^^
gleaming meadow
and you create it from the market's demand
for you
so yes you might have had great internships before, but what about now while we are in a recession
when there's 100s of you
all stating they have the same worth now
with people above you as well
inner pine
Yea ik alot student who just graduated without any intern on their resume. Still going for applying🥲. Although idk how the road will be for them ahead.
gleaming meadow
so make what you will with what we've said
if you want a rating on ur resume
it's around a C- to me
good content but it's a bit all over
and that's fine
last crane
@gleaming meadow off-topic but how do you find emails addresses to email
gleaming meadow
just focus on improving what you can
gleaming meadow
<@217413674971824130> off-topic but how do you find emails addresses to email
most are from recruiters I just know
I used to get a lot of reach outs
from most companies
gleaming meadow
during the hiring peak
gleaming meadow
how do u get reachouts?
I'm a top candiate?
and I run lots of things
and I'm well known to people
which still scares me
how do these people know me
otherwise I work with getting career fairs set up
so I have a list
inner pine
how do these people know me
Youtuber??
summer summit
I'm a top candiate?
how do u become top candidate
gleaming meadow
and not associated to me at all
gleaming meadow
how do u become top candidate
be nice
be willing to learn
and learn to communicate
summer summit
yeah but how does that get u out there
gleaming meadow
no one cares if u can code
summer summit
ur name
gleaming meadow
cause people talk about me
and recomend me to recruriters
"xyz sent me your way"
gleaming meadow
people I've worked with
people I've helped
people I've spoken to randomly
people remember who's kind
that's all my dude
but don't worry about doing that
it's a lot of work tbh
just focus on doing what you can do
to help yourself in the now
inner pine
Yea ik alot student who just graduated without any intern on their resume. Still...
@gleaming meadow any advice you can give them 🤞
gleaming meadow
<@217413674971824130> any advice you can give them 🤞
they ducked up
but focus on getting projects out
work on open source
there are some companies
that direct pipeline from opensoruce projects
I can think of 20 off the top of my head
not sharing those cause I'll get shit from people if I do
cause I don't think they were supponsed to tell me
part of it is understanding for them
they're playing on expert mode
not hard mode
focus on trying to do as much as they can
and break into the industry
don't matter how
and be willing to take anything
they can always keep looking
feel free to ask questions as well
if u want
I don't mind
part of this is a learning process for everyone
post
summer summit
@regal oyster