help me decide

[woeful dune]

msft or stripe pls (i graduate in 2 years)

[mental gate]

Stripe gaps

[upbeat verge]

stripe 100% why u even asking

[opal drift]

stripe for growth

I just realize your name is greg from sucession 😭

[woeful dune]

what if its stripe canada vs msft redmond (msft pays more) @mental gate @upbeat verge @opal drift

[woeful dune]

hes so cute

[opal drift]

hmm ye that's goes into where you wanna be

i would go for msft

[lost pelican]

What was your OA score?

[woeful dune]

shit

[woeful dune]

bc of location / pay?

[lost pelican]

Didn’t stripe rescind offers last year?

[opal drift]

yes pay and location and opp in the US

[lost pelican]

How many levels did you pass?

[opal drift]

my manager was from CA and he said it was 1000% worth it, this was at AMD

[sturdy marsh]

I’d ask if u can convert to US for ro @woeful dune

[woeful dune]

lowkey i was thinking of asking to move this offer to US, but it might be too late

[sturdy marsh]

yeah that’d be ideal

If ur stuck in Canada for ng too I would do msft

[visual olive]

h1bs lol

who wanna get married

u get US citzenship i get 20% of ur earnings for 3 years

[woeful dune]

id actually prefer to live in canada FT but thats just me

[visual olive]

?

[still zenith]

msft pays 160k tc ft 😭 go stripe

[small ether]

TN for Canadians pretty easy to get for the full time in US

[sturdy marsh]

oh word. If that then def do stripe

[woeful dune]

thing is msft seattle would be a sick vacation tho bc ive never lived away from home

canada stripe id still be living at home

[upbeat verge]

If u wanna work with c# go with msft, if u want to work with modern tech, go with stripe

Msft full of boomers

[woeful dune]

besides this internship, I still have 2 more co-ops to fill. does that influence ur thought process at all

[upbeat verge]

no not at all, stripe all the way

try to move it to US tho

if not I would still go with stripe without doubt

[woeful dune]

but does it look as good on a resume as msft

[cobalt talon]

it looks better lol

[still zenith]

stripe gaps msft bro

[cobalt talon]

stripe has better eng talent and name then msft. Just because msft is more established != better resume value

[woeful dune]

even to a regular recruiter tho?? like to cs students sure but..

[cobalt talon]

yes

[still zenith]

stripe has better resume value

[cobalt talon]

recruiters arent living under rocks

[still zenith]

yes technical recruiters know

[woeful dune]

ahhhhhh

[still zenith]

ur parents will disown you if you take msft over stripe

[woeful dune]

only bc it will mean id have to move away hahaha

msft is also giving 16k relocation lol

[mental gate]

Its a tough choice ngl

Cuz of the location

[woeful dune]

yeah : (

[mental gate]

If it was stripe usa it was ez

[upbeat verge]

HUH?

16k?

[woeful dune]

yes cuz i moved it from 12 weeks to 16 weeks

u see why the decision is hard 💀

[upbeat verge]

16k in including housing stipend right?

[woeful dune]

yeah that is the housing stipend maybe i misworded it

[upbeat verge]

if u can move stripe to US with 60/hr pay, then go with stripe, if it's canada, then go with msft

[stiff sundial]

did u solve all 4 pars for tech phone?

[woeful dune]

i solved 2 LOL

[stiff sundial]

can i dm u about onsite and hm?

[woeful dune]

mmmm got u to change ur opinion lol

[upbeat verge]

16k with 16 weeks lol it's worth it

[woeful dune]

what ab the eng talent !!

[cobalt talon]

is it 16k cad or usd

i still think go stripe you shouldnt care about money like that for an internship. You will likely get more opportunities to come to the us

[ember turtle]

fwiw a friend in the same situation chose microsoft

as a canadian

[woeful dune]

oo thx, was it for this upcoming summer term?

[ember turtle]

and it was a msft return offer from explore

[lost pelican]

Microsoft US would be so cool as a Canadian ngl

[woeful dune]

oh wow

[ember turtle]

yeah

[lost pelican]

Plus fuck Canada

Shitty ass country

No jobs here

😢

[ember turtle]

btw the pay gap in the us vs canada is insane

[lost pelican]

Real

[woeful dune]

ngl choosing to return to msft instead stripe must have meant they really liked it

[woeful dune]

for msft ot stripe?

[lost pelican]

Isn’t stripe WLB iffy too?

[ember turtle]

yeah they really enjoyed their msft team

[ember turtle]

both but I think stripe is even less

[lost pelican]

Microsoft has great WLB from what I hear

[woeful dune]

yeah

[ember turtle]

you get <66% of US premium

also stripe new grad offers have been cut from what you see from past years so take that into account

[upbeat verge]

I think the work u do at Stripe is more interesting but the pay for canada is tough

[woeful dune]

i still have 2 years of uni so im not rlly thinking ab NG rn

[ember turtle]

if this is going to be your first US internship I would do msft

[woeful dune]

yeah it is

[ember turtle]

yeah I would take msft, it’s normal swe intern right

not explore

[woeful dune]

ye normal

[ember turtle]

yeah I would take that

speaking as a canadian who is returning back to stripe US

[lost pelican]

Honestly a US internship as a Canadian I feel is important if you can get one

[woeful dune]

wait LOL

[brave trail]

its not hard to get us anew grad with canadian internship

[ember turtle]

nyc

[brave trail]

ik some1 who did big tech @ canada office and had no issues

stripe is so much better

[ember turtle]

but it’s way easier if you have a US return offer to fall back on

[brave trail]

picking a worse company for 1 return offer isnt the best choice imo

the chance** of a return offer btw

[ember turtle]

yeah msft just purely on location and pay

[ember turtle]

how is msft worse than stripe?

[brave trail]

also picking ms for pay for literally 4 months is also not the best choice

ur trying to priotize short term gains

[stiff sundial]

i wouldnt say so

i dont think us internship adds any more value than a canadian one

[lost pelican]

I mean what about when applying to future US roles?

Doesn’t matter?

Oh

[brave trail]

i cant think of 1 reason why ms would be a btter company to work at then stripe

[lost pelican]

Then prob stripe ig

[brave trail]

why would ms better?

[stiff sundial]

a company will hire if they sponsor not if u have had a previous us internship

[ember turtle]

oh I didn’t see this

[lost pelican]

WLB

[ember turtle]

bigger company more different things to work on

[stiff sundial]

take msf so that i can get stripe

[lost pelican]

Real lmao

Microsoft better!!!

[ember turtle]

also if your into innovative tech, msft has branches for that

like I found my work at apple slightly more interesting than most work available at stripe

[lost pelican]

Do you value WLB?

[ember turtle]

depends on what your career goals are

[brave trail]

choosing microsoft for inoovation is very bold

thats like the entire reason why stripe is bette

[lost pelican]

Damn this is a hard choice ngl

[ember turtle]

it’s more that you have more lateral movement into different industries without having to apply to another company

[lost pelican]

Can you move one to off season?

[ember turtle]

stripe only does summer now

[lost pelican]

😢

[upbeat verge]

honestly tho Stripe name value is better than msft so if u have two more cycles, go with Stripe

[lost pelican]

What’s stripe hc for Canada btw?

[upbeat verge]

despite the pay 😦

[lost pelican]

If I finish OA today do I still got a chance?

[ember turtle]

depends on who you are applying to lol

[lost pelican]

Oh fuck 💀

[ember turtle]

ive found my resume is getting resume rejected more often with stripe at the top than apple, but that could just be this recruiting cycle

[lost pelican]

Apple > stripe imo tho

What’s the work at Microsoft?

[stiff sundial]

did they say exactly how many?
im doomed

[ember turtle]

team dependent but I can agree if you get a good apple team

[lost pelican]

Ye fax depends on team

Fuck I shoulda done OA way earlier ngmi 💀

Didn’t know it was super low

[ember turtle]

I haven’t seen how msft looks inside but I am assuming it has very similar branches and tech to apple

like they have equivalent teams like os, browsers, vr, ar, security

[lost pelican]

Ye prob does im guessing

[ember turtle]

also msft has been doing some pretty innovative work recently from what I’ve seen

seemed like it was heading down the same path as IBM but leadership has shifted that

also for reference my friend was on the visual studio team @woeful dune

[stiff sundial]

@ember turtle what are ur thoughts for robinhood vs stripe?

[ember turtle]

also consider that if you FT in canada, you might as well work in the US for a trial period to experience it

[ember turtle]

no clue about robinhood, never looked into their dev teams

[still zenith]

stripe canada 💀

[ember turtle]

from my point of view, I am doing internships to explore different companies, industries/technologies and cities as my top 3 priorities

so it might be a bit biased

[mental gate]

Also them acquisitions helping the business as well

[rough geode]

@woeful dune hey what’s the hourly and housing for Toronto?

[junior spear]

isnt it 10k for housing, wdym by 16k

oh nvm i read the rest of the thread LOL

congrats!

[lost pelican]

Oh damn that’s USD too

Shiiii if I was in that case I would take Microsoft

[brave trail]

Don’t sacrifice long term success for short term gains

Being at stripe intern would probably increase your ng salary by more than 12k compared to ms

[lost pelican]

💀

Microsoft isn’t a bad choice

[brave trail]

Stripe can lead to better companies ft

Ik ms ain’t bad im just saying

[upbeat verge]

Stripe name value is better and u don’t have to work with c#c😭

[lost pelican]

What companies can it lead to that Microsoft can’t

[upbeat verge]

I think Stripe got better work in general than msft but the pay diff is too much so idk

[lost pelican]

Bro having C experience isn’t a bad thing lol

[upbeat verge]

Good for u for having these types of decisions tho

Not a lot of people can experience this lol

[lost pelican]

True this is a rare thing to have

[brave trail]

I hate the word “prestige” but generally stripe has higher prestige. Ms is seen in the lower end of big tech prestige and stripe is seen as a unicorn startup type company

[upbeat verge]

Having selection between stripe and msft

Is insane

Stripe is def top of unicorn startup rn

[lost pelican]

Yeah I see what you mean

[upbeat verge]

How much u getting paid at amazon rn?

[lost pelican]

Amazon Canada?

[brave trail]

So stripe is better for unicorn startup type companies

[lost pelican]

55 CAD an hour iirc

Or 50 forgot

Damn

I mean the point I see is that stripe new grad pays more than Microsoft full time

[upbeat verge]

Have u gotten anything back regarding stripe seattle request?

I mean it’s Saturday

[lost pelican]

Another thing to consider is return offer chance after the internship

[upbeat verge]

Do u know what type of team u will be working at both?

[lost pelican]

Dang

You went to work in Canada right?

For new grad

Think about

If Canadian companies know Microsoft or stripe

[sturdy marsh]

Biggest benefit is u don’t have to use Microsoft teams

[lost pelican]

Like which they know better

Obvs they know both

[lost pelican]

LMAOOOO

fuck teams

That sound gives me PTSD

[sturdy marsh]

same

fuck teams

hope to never use it again

Unironically company using teams = red flag

no. Diff company that used teams

[lost pelican]

Damn you have a hard choice 😢

[brave trail]

this summer i had to go with the thinkpad + teams combo

[sturdy marsh]

just go to stripe bro. It’ll set u up. You like Canada better anyways

[sturdy marsh]

DUDE i had to use some shitty windows laptop too

HP ENVY

[lost pelican]

Same bro 😭

[sturdy marsh]

actually a -30% performance debuff

[lost pelican]

I can’t work on it

It’s acc so bad

[sturdy marsh]

It’s still an excellent name in Canada

[brave trail]

wouldnt u want to work at a canadian unicorn tho?

what im saying

[upbeat verge]

Go with Stripe fr tho

U still have two internship cycles

[brave trail]

ms - good for big tech, not good for unicorns
stripe = good for big tech, good for unicorns

[upbeat verge]

Fk msft

[brave trail]

i dont really see how ms is better

[upbeat verge]

No offense to msft interns and workers they are good

[brave trail]

• i dont see why u are focuing on intern pay and wlb

[upbeat verge]

Stripe is better for intern growth

Dont worry this will never be a case unless u apply to Pepsi

70 year old recruiters

[brave trail]

its like 4 months and ur less exp than a juniopr they arent gonna slave u away

if u want rest and vest ur whole career than ms sure

[upbeat verge]

Stripe = Java, go, ruby, msft = c#

[brave trail]

idt ms is even known for rest and vest anymore

[sturdy marsh]

Top tier recruiters no

[upbeat verge]

It seems clear to me

[sturdy marsh]

It’s literally their job to know other top tier companies

[small ether]

Do you know which MS team you'd be on? I feel like that would be a big factor

[upbeat verge]

What does that person do

[sturdy marsh]

lol dude wait if ur like pushing back on everyone telling u to go to stripe

[brave trail]

💀

bro

[mental gate]

Reject msft and tell em to take me🙏

[small ether]

Isn't Fabric like A DB clone??

[sturdy marsh]

then clearly u want to go to msft deep down

[brave trail]

u wanna work on low code stuff

[sturdy marsh]

then just go

like it doesn't matter what we say

just do what u wanna do bro

[small ether]

I think working on MS Fabric would be huge

[upbeat verge]

Go to stripe and then get next job in Seattle

[sturdy marsh]

i mean sure then try it out

ur not making a life altering decision either way

[upbeat verge]

They are both good so it’s ur choice it seems your more towards msft

[small ether]

I wouldn't worry about that tooo much if it's a 4 month internship and you don't want to work there FT

Yeah you're chilling, if you can get stripe and MS as a sophmore, regardless of what you pick, I don't think you'll have any problem getting recruited by other companies for subsequent internsips

[woeful dune]

thanks 😭 ❤️

[empty garden]

mind if i also dm some qs?

[hazy bay]

windows deployment/deployment solutions or other team?

[stiff sundial]

yeah tbh outcomes would probs be the same either way
u should prioritize the one u think ull probs have the best experience at
which ever one u pick ull be golden either way

[woeful dune]

other

its like the security team for applications on ppls devices

[woeful dune]

sure

[hazy bay]

That's really cool actually