#process bloomberg offer

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slate valve
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yo congrats homie, can I dm?

small pecan
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Cong! How long does it take for em to offer??

obsidian saffron
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so i actually went through an on campus interview process so it was rlly fast

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i think from my first interview to offer was about 2 weeks

small pecan
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When was ur HR+EM round?

obsidian saffron
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so i got the offer on Monday, my EM round was last Tuesday

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so like a 6 day gap between?

small pecan
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Thx!!! I finished my EM on this Tuesday. Hope I can get offer as well 🥰 congrats again!

narrow minnow
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just curious if they give different initial offers or not

obsidian saffron
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i think it was a similar number

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172k?? i think

narrow minnow
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huh ok

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so I think bonus is probs varying

silent sail
narrow minnow
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but base is the same for initial offer

narrow minnow
obsidian saffron
silent sail
narrow minnow
silent sail
narrow minnow
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and got the offer from that but delayed it to 2023 start date

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I heard back like < 1 week after EM

merry wolf
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does anyone know how they determine bonuses? i felt like i did pretty well in my interviews

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did you mentioned competing offer comps @obsidian saffron

narrow minnow
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actually idk since everyone I've talked to so far got the 17k bonus for the initial offer

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idk why I got more

merry wolf
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thatd be so sad if it was interview feedback, idk how the interviews couldve improved

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did you mention competing offer @narrow minnow

narrow minnow
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if I had a competing offer I would've just negoed up using that

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lmao

merry wolf
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guess i just suck damn

narrow minnow
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that's probs the real op strat

merry wolf
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i do but bb offers cash whereas my other offer is heavy on equity

narrow minnow
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is it sellable equity

merry wolf
narrow minnow
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oh

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that's rough then

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I feel like they'd nego amazon

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that was my plan then amazon waitlisted me smh

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so I can't even nego since bb requires offer letter

merry wolf
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@clear condor what was ur bonus

narrow minnow
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rip

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idk if you'll get amazon in time to nego

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if that's your plan

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o

slate valve
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bloomberg over amazon?

narrow minnow
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i'd choose bb over amazon if bb TC and WLB was better

silent sail
merry wolf
silent sail
merry wolf
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campus is v fast

narrow minnow
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wack

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do they only choose specific schools for campus

merry wolf
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idk

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are you doing the discovery day thing @narrow minnow

narrow minnow
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that's supposed to be early october right

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or are there different dates for it idk

merry wolf
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yea next week i think rsvp closed today though :(

narrow minnow
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f

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are they paying for your plane and housing tickets

merry wolf
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yea for 3 days

narrow minnow
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nice

slate valve
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fair enough, personally i feel like amazon is better as a first tech job considering reputation and compensation, but yeah, dont renege until u docusign lol (and congrats!)

narrow minnow
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maybe

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idk I doubt recruiters rate bloomberg vs amazon on your resume that differently tbh

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true

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I don't think long-term comp matters too much though

merry wolf
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finance stuff like?

narrow minnow
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since you'll likely job hop 2-3 years in

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either way

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true

merry wolf
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honestly doubt it

narrow minnow
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I think it's probs slightly true

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not insane but it seems to have some truth to it on blind

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i think it's more due to the fact that you're more likely to go deep into C++ at Bloomberg

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and also Bloomberg is in NYC which just gives the people there more visibility to HFTs there

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that's my theory at least since I also see a lot of people saying companies in NYC like google tend to get C++ people from bb job hopping

merry wolf
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bb -> google pipeline is real

woven warren
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i talked to two sig at a career fair and they were like yeah we like to take bb people

narrow minnow
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like the whole bb does financial stuff = hft is probably not that true

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I think it's the C++ expertise that does it

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at least that's my goal at bb

woven warren
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anecdotally i was also really scared of working on legacy stacks but everyone i talked to at bb told me their stack was nice and named the stuff for me

narrow minnow
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i'm tryna get a c++ team

woven warren
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also the team match process means u can just not rank teams tht work on a stack u dont enjoy which is fun

narrow minnow
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also I think it's super funny that bb must have a lot of people leave in february

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since that's after bonus comes in

merry wolf
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were you able you negotiate bb @woven warren

woven warren
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ya

merry wolf
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how much now 👀

woven warren
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im at 200k tc

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not including relo

narrow minnow
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damn

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having competing offer op

merry wolf
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155 + 45?

narrow minnow
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i'm still so sad amazon stopped hiring

obsidian saffron
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i don't have competing offer and i didn't have system design in EM lol

narrow minnow
woven warren
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155+30 bonus+15 sign on

narrow minnow
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is it 30 sign on / 2 years?

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or just 15k y1 sign on

woven warren
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just 15k y1

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that was what i negoed for

narrow minnow
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👍

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sounds like a job hop after year1 KEKW

merry wolf
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mind if i dm about negotiation @woven warren

woven warren
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yeah return interns get 20k sign on

narrow minnow
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huh a lot smaller of a difference than I thought

woven warren
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well the initial offer is 0 sign on LOL

narrow minnow
woven warren
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i just got 15k bc i had competing offer w 15k sign

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yeah atlassian

narrow minnow
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nice

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what made you choose bb over atlassian

woven warren
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atlassian was 185k in seattle and i was like well id feel better abt nyc if you upped some

narrow minnow
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was it tc or location

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ah

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they did when I asked if I could nego

woven warren
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they wanted me to forward the offer but i was like uhmm its a docusign so recruiter just had me email details

narrow minnow
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nice

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i considered the bluffing route but i feel like the risk aint worth it

woven warren
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yeah no fr mine was a docusign

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LOL

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but u could try to bluff but yeah they asked

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first i just said 'is it negotiable' and recruiter was like 'well youre at max comp rn but do you have a signing bonus in your other offer' and i was like yeah and she said she could match sign on

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wishing atlassian gave me fatter sign on loool

narrow minnow
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what were you at pre-nego

woven warren
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155+30

narrow minnow
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huhhh so the bonus ceiling from interview is 30

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wack

merry wolf
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so it is performance based :(

narrow minnow
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maybe they give bigger bonuses based off interviews + past internships?

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idk tho since my past internships are mediocre but I have 2

woven warren
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yeah idk how my performance was in all honesty, i think it was good but not exemplary

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i was in a conference pipeline and told them i had other offers/was interviewing w some big names so mightve been a factor

narrow minnow
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Do you have 🐐 past internships

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Ah

woven warren
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i have apple and some misc internships/research

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mid school

narrow minnow
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oh ok

narrow minnow
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or mid as in actually mid

woven warren
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no like t100 or smth ?? like idk i dont even check rankings its probably not there

narrow minnow
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ah ok

woven warren
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i hate when people say mid and then they go to umass or smth too LMAOOO

narrow minnow
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seeing as you mentioned umass

woven warren
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nah im in the south

narrow minnow
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oh ok

woven warren
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just remembered that bc it happened to me in another server lul

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and i was like damn umass is good tho

narrow minnow
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i will admit

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i'm absolutely the guy to call umass a mid school

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because I'm a mass local

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and umass is like

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the feeder school for people in ma hs

woven warren
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damn thats fair

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im sure a lot of schools are easier for instate

narrow minnow
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probs

olive plover
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i found out amherst was actually a separate school lol

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i always thought amherst = umass

woven warren
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oh me too actually

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until rn

olive plover
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pretty good school umass

narrow minnow
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Umass basically means umass amherst

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Even tho other umass schools exist

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They're irrelevant

olive plover
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i also meant that

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oops sorry

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like i associated amherst with umass

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didnt know they made a school named amherst when there alr is umass amherst

narrow minnow
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Ye very different schools lmao

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Amherst college is where I imagine the hippies go

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Umass amherst for the zoomass parties

timber geode
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@woven warren how long did your recruiter take to get back to u during negotiating?

woven warren
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i negoed face to face lol

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saw my recruiter at an event

slate valve
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stared them dead in the eye and calmly asked for a raise thanos

woven warren
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💀 ngl it was actually pretty chill, im just terrible at sending emails timely so i went for it

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highly suggest emailing if u wanna not get played by ur recruiter

narrow minnow
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and what neighborhoods

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just curious what other people in nyc are doing for that

woven warren
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im stressed abt it i really dont know

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bb is flying me out for a weekend so ill try to scope out then

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i was told to live in east/west/greenwich village if i wanna party

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bb is paying for a week hotel to get housing but ill probably give myself at least another week or two before then additionally

narrow minnow
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my recruiter didn't even tell me about that smh

narrow minnow
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since we gotta be in office 3/5 days

woven warren
woven warren
narrow minnow
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tru

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I might do midtown since it's walkable to bb

woven warren
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i dont wanna take public transport after dark so i would be spending lots of money on ubers for nightlife if i cant walk there also

narrow minnow
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and ik I'm gonna hate life if I have to take subway to work everyday lmao

woven warren
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yeah midtown seems nice

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there was some area i was told was cheaper bc its mostly new grads

narrow minnow
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in midtown?

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or diff neighborhood

woven warren
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had to look it up, murray hill

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finance bro neighborhood lool

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its near midtown idk if its considered midtown

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im a nyc noob

narrow minnow
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same

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my main impression of nyc neighborhoods is this great meme map I found a while ago lmao

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woven warren
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😭😭😭

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seems accurate

narrow minnow
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new grad seems pretty accurate with where I've been looking at lmao

woven warren
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yeah fr

narrow minnow
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you planning on commuting to work or walking?

woven warren
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i like walking, dont mind public transport tho

narrow minnow
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i already know enduring a long commute in nyc winter will suck

woven warren
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ahhh

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ive only ever lived in the south so im kinda excited for it 💀

narrow minnow
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get fucked by winter when you experience it for the first time in the northeast

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make sure to bring 0 coats

woven warren
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😭😭😭

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ill do my best 🫡

narrow minnow
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smh this is bull

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i'm just reading contract rn

woven warren
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ah yeah i saw that

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im tired of recruiting so ill probably do 2 yrs

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unless i really hate it

narrow minnow
woven warren
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oh for sure

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i hope goog and meta go back to regular hiring that fast

narrow minnow
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during one of my chats with one of the senior engineers in final round

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man basically insinuated job hopping was the strat when I asked him about compensation growth

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lmao

woven warren
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LOL

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completely fair

slate valve
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bro im just looking for a job

silent sail
narrow minnow
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I think most people get 17k bonus

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I got 23k

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then snez got 30k

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base and relo are constant I believe

silent sail
# narrow minnow I got 23k

Did u share the TC of competing offers in the HR interview? Or did they give u more cuz the interview feedback was rly good?

narrow minnow
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and still don't

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I think it's just interview feedback tbh

silent sail
narrow minnow
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which i don't have

silent sail
narrow minnow
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I didn't try the latter

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but I directly asked if there was negotiation room

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and they said no, only by showing competing offer letters

woven warren
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someone on the bb discord said they got more just by asking w no other offers

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so ig it varies by recruiter

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recruiters scare me lol u never know when theyre lying

narrow minnow
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there's a bb discord?

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where'd you find it

woven warren
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just looked around

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i can dm u the link

narrow minnow
woven warren
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yep 👍

silent sail
woven warren
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sure, i have to send req

silent sail
olive plover
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@woven warren +1

woven warren
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👍

timber geode
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@woven warren can you dm me too?