process Palantir reject after hiring

[undone zealot]

fuccckkkk man im sorry

what is the hiring manager round usually? is it just a vibe check or is there leetcode/sys design

[shell bobcat]

Both

Half half

[undone zealot]

shit

so is it Karat -> final -> hiring manager -> offer?

and do you get a chance to interview with different hiring managers in the company

[shell bobcat]

Final? Like on site?

Mines was

Recruiter call -> Karat -> on-site (2 interviews) -> hm round -> offer (in my case rejection)

[bleak ledge]

If you are fine with sharing, can you please comment a little about on-site interviews

[shell bobcat]

decomp + learning

So decomp is just simplified system design

Learning they teach you a new concept and u just implement that new concept

[inland cipher]

Did toy take the oa or just go straight to karat

[shell bobcat]

mines was recruiter call first

i was referred

[shell bobcat]

i didnt lol

[wispy escarp]

its not down the drain

youll carry that over when u interview again

[shell bobcat]

[sharp saddle]

gonna have my onsite in like 2 weeks, wish they would condense the process a bit lol

[west osprey]

did u have to answer all 3qs in karat?

[shell bobcat]

I did not

I got 2 qs and answered q3 fully but didn’t code it

[grizzled flame]

Hijacking this, what’s on-site like? harder than karat, tagged q’s or no? @shell bobcat

[shell bobcat]

no LC on-site

[grizzled flame]

What is it exactly?

[shell bobcat]

Decomp and learning

Decomp is like a junior sys design

Learning is like a applied LC

U learn a new concept and u apply that concept

[grizzled flame]

Ahh I see, yeah heard of those, gonna have to brush up on sys design then

[shell bobcat]

Yep! I recommend reading grokking the sys design as well as doing mocks on pramp

[spiral ruin]

could you give an example of the type of question it is?

is it like full on normal system design

or different, because I've seen people talking about it being more "decomp" focused where they just give a broad problem, you break it down, etc. but don't need to go into full on system design (load balancing, cache, database sharding, etc.)

[spiral ruin]

applied LC as in using LC patterns?

[shell bobcat]

can skip load balacning

but i talked about caching and db sharding

as well as cap theorem

its how u want to structure the interview

[grizzled flame]

how tf did u get reject

[spiral ruin]

just not sure how to prepare in all honesty

[shell bobcat]

as in its a programming question and u use the new concept to answer it

[spiral ruin]

i've got it on friday

[shell bobcat]

idk

[spiral ruin]

other than working through this sys design book, what else should i do?

[shell bobcat]

maybe cuz im asian

[grizzled flame]

honestly seems like you're more than prepped

[shell bobcat]

yep

sad

[grizzled flame]

wym 🧐

[spiral ruin]

i think they are probably pretty stringent on the culturey koolaid drinking stuff

[shell bobcat]

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/palantir-technologies-labor-department-lawsuit-bias-discrimination-asians/

[grizzled flame]

W O A H

got dark fast

[shell bobcat]

[grizzled flame]

lets connect, I'd love to hear how it goes

[shell bobcat]

shit ton of mocks

[grizzled flame]

pramp ftw

[spiral ruin]

i have tonight and tomorrow to do them lmao

fr though?

this is what i'm not sure on

[shell bobcat]

idk morals go out the window when high pay shows up

[grizzled flame]

do some pramp sys design

[spiral ruin]

is how much hardcore sys design knowledge i should be learning

[grizzled flame]

sad fax

[shell bobcat]

its like baby sys design

[spiral ruin]

exactly

[shell bobcat]

like u dont need to worry too much about scaling

[grizzled flame]

yeah Ive heard its jr sys design

[spiral ruin]

i scheduled a pramp interview but cancelled it

because i saw my question was about some key store thing

and thought, well if I get given this surely that's not even the kinda thing they're asking?

could you give an example of what they'd ask?

[shell bobcat]

kinda signed an nda

[spiral ruin]

from this book i've just seen system design is questions like "Design a URL shortener"

[spiral ruin]

ye doesn't have to be what you got given, just an idea of the kind of scope maybe?

don't want to sound pushy and if you don't want to say anything no worries at all

my nerves making me desperate lol

[grizzled flame]

caching, db sharding, cap theorem

[shell bobcat]

its just like tools for palantir

not the palantir product

but for their community

[spiral ruin]

hey so I did the onsite and got through!

one thing I've read from you & others is about people getting rejected at the HM level

[grizzled flame]

Let’s goooo!

[spiral ruin]

from what I understand, the HM basically either does a behavioural (if you did well all-round in prev. interviews) or it 're-does' one of the things you didn't do as well in before (e.g. decomp, or coding)

is this true?

[spiral ruin]

❤️

[spiral ruin]

i've got a recruiter call on monday to hopefully find out if it's a behavioural or technical etc.

What did you have?

[shell bobcat]

both

behav and decomp

[shell bobcat]

u have to ace it to only do behav

[shell bobcat]

the redo isnt based on what u didnt do well before, more so up to the hm

[spiral ruin]

👍 thanks. Any tips as to what to do? I've read too many stories of ppl being rejected at this stage, quite scary

[slender shard]

after ur onsite, could u give some info abt if i need to cover grokking system like lb, caching, sharding, cdns, etc, or is it other concepts

[spiral ruin]

I've done the onsite

Knowing those topics could be useful but they're not really testing your knowledge but more just how you break down problems

Not really Dropbox tbh

It's either a small system or its a "Solve X problem"

[grizzled flame]

It’s more like they present a problem and information you could use to solve it and it’s up to you to scope and break it down to get a MVP, @spiral ruin can confirm

[spiral ruin]

E.g "You are given data of cab rides. Improve the quality of life of cab drivers"

[spiral ruin]

Yep

And the MVP is important

They don't want a perfect solution, it doesn't exist, they want you to get to a solution though

[solemn loom]

did you get to pick any language for the learning bit?

[slender shard]

oh ok I see, thanks for the insight torin and workday

[spiral ruin]

Yes, out of these:

Java, python, TS

You can write pseudo code though

I chose java as it's way easier to understand object oriented code vs. python which has quite weird OOP

[grizzled flame]

Good choice

[solemn loom]

sweet, appreciate it 🤝

[grizzled flame]

Great taste in cars lol

[solemn loom]

thanks i try lmao

[half moth]

hi, u saying it i usefull, but did u use it? tia!

[spiral ruin]

Yes but not in detail

Useful as in you can talk about them if you want

But they won't explicitly test you on that