2023_summer

[dense tinsel]

yay thats nice then

i will study very hard

[spark hearth]

just study all of them

[native spindle]

!process Sigma Computing reject

[final forum]

You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_fall_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

[safe minnow]

Why

[sinful locust]

11th grade 😭

[simple garden]

bro dooming at 10am on a sunday

[hardy patrol]

for real

bro scribbling his college course workload on the monkey bars

[dense tinsel]

no dp

we did that this year

[safe minnow]

Merge sort in algos

[dense tinsel]

merge and selection

[safe minnow]

[dense tinsel]

wait hwat

[safe minnow]

dp doesn't belong in DS

[wraith gazelle]

he said DSA

[safe minnow]

dp comes after DS

[wraith gazelle]

it usually is

it's da A lol

[safe minnow]

Eh

We have it seperated out

[wraith gazelle]

most undergrad algorithms classes will cover dp

[safe minnow]

We spend 2-3 weeks on dp to stress it

Idk how far you can get in a single DSA course

[wraith gazelle]

my school has a separate DS and algo class

[safe minnow]

Oh we go into LC hards on our exams 😭

[dense tinsel]

isnt that greedy??

yeah we dont have that unfortunately

[wraith gazelle]

not with arbitrary denominations

[dense tinsel]

second semester is spent on like low level dev

C, threading, socketes

lame shit

[safe minnow]

This

[wraith gazelle]

you're in HS?

[safe minnow]

Wtf?

[wraith gazelle]

what kinda rich ass school do u go to

[dense tinsel]

i dont think we'll make an OS

[safe minnow]

Mf getting my systems education in HS

[dense tinsel]

a normal non-magnet publics chool

its rly high rated tho

[safe minnow]

Ok maybe not the OS and networking part of my systems class

But still

Wtf

[wraith gazelle]

i went to a huge public school and we had like AP CSA at best

[safe minnow]

Same

[wraith gazelle]

that's crazy

[dense tinsel]

the drawback is our teacher is super strict

[wraith gazelle]

The best school in our state taught DS

[dense tinsel]

with styling and efficiency

[wraith gazelle]

that's about it

[dense tinsel]

our teacher is pushing the school to let him teach more OS stuff

[wraith gazelle]

what state do you live in?

[dense tinsel]

maryland

[wraith gazelle]

interesting

[safe minnow]

[dense tinsel]

he was pushing for another programming course that did like OS dev i think he said

[wraith gazelle]

well you're real ahead of the game

[dense tinsel]

but thats hard

[safe minnow]

Nah but like a lot of OS stuff is genuinely really difficult

[dense tinsel]

yeah

[wraith gazelle]

that would have been really cool when I was in HS

[dense tinsel]

i prob cant handle it

[safe minnow]

Concurrency took a while to settle for me

[potent imp]

Yes u can

[wraith gazelle]

bro if it's meant for HS you'll be fine

[potent imp]

HS is a big waste of time

[wraith gazelle]

he can't fail everyone

[dense tinsel]

lmao

[wraith gazelle]

you just have to keep up with everyone else

[safe minnow]

I do have to say though

[dense tinsel]

unfortunately my teacher is old and doesnt know ML

[safe minnow]

Probably hard to prof out

Of your school's OS classes

If it's required

[dense tinsel]

so no ml courses 😦

[potent imp]

Ml doesn’t matter rn

Focus on the basics

[wraith gazelle]

actual ML classes are so boring

im in one rn and it's just 90 minutes of the professor doing optimization problems

[safe minnow]

Eh

I like the math proofs

But it's not what a lot of people expect yeah

[dense tinsel]

ive been self learning ml/ai

difficult

[wraith gazelle]

I guess: it's all just we tryna optimize x, lets solve it using either iterative or try to find a closed form

[dense tinsel]

self studied a bit of linear algebra so i could understand the math more

[wraith gazelle]

and then there's 1.5 hours of tensor calculus

[dense tinsel]

but idk the stats involved

and numpy is cancer

bro im so pissed our teahcers making us learn C

such a useless lang for highschoolers

what is the point when modern langs exist

[wraith gazelle]

nah starting with C is goated

[dense tinsel]

teach us python, kotlin, go, rust

[safe minnow]

[potent imp]

I did that when I was in hs, and it would have been more fruitful if I did competitive programming instead

[safe minnow]

Bro C isn't an ancient language like Fortran

[dense tinsel]

thats what im thining tbh

im planning to drop ml/ai in the summer and just grind competitive programming

[dense tinsel]

id rather learn haskell over C

[safe minnow]

Do you know why he's teaching you C

[dense tinsel]

what is C even used for besides my great grandpa's legacy code

[wraith gazelle]

they're really different languages

[dense tinsel]

he said its to undrestand memory better or smth

[safe minnow]

Yes

[dense tinsel]

bc java doesnt have malloc

[wraith gazelle]

^

[safe minnow]

If you aren't learning C with systems

Then your teacher is griefing you

I promise

[dense tinsel]

idk if hes teaching us systems

[safe minnow]

He is

Maybe not the full course

But it sounds exactly like it

[fresh temple]

average brainlet

[dense tinsel]

Students are also introduced to software engineering concepts and team-oriented approaches for solving problems. Students will explore advanced topics such as memory management, network programming, simulation and game development, and multimedia programming.

this is second semester

shit looks so stupid

tf is a team oriented approach

[wraith gazelle]

network programming?

in hs

[dense tinsel]

yeah idk what that is

[wraith gazelle]

crazy

[dense tinsel]

but i heard we'll make like some chat application

sounds cool

[safe minnow]

Yeah we're doing that rn

It's networking

With sockets and shit

[dense tinsel]

yeah im gonna die of cringe

bc its cool but cringy

not my sorta thing

[wraith gazelle]

networking stuff is cool

[safe minnow]

Why is it cringe

[wraith gazelle]

the class is kicking my ass rn

[safe minnow]

I wouldn't diss it unless you try it first

[wraith gazelle]

but its cool stuff

[fresh temple]

you will make dashboards forever

jesus fucking christ

[obtuse timber]

C just exists to make students hate life

[dense tinsel]

^^^

[fresh temple]

you've literally never coded in C beore

[safe minnow]

Manually creating posix threads has given me some trauma

[fresh temple]

what kernel / syscall do you even use for that

kek

[safe minnow]

pthread_create

[dense tinsel]

whats it about

i think we might learn git

[fresh temple]

no, how do you implement it without pthread_create

if you're implementing by yourself

or is posix thread != pthread

[safe minnow]

Oh that's kernel stuff

[obtuse timber]

i dunno what that even is lmfao i just remember passing my c class by like 1%

[fresh temple]

yes I'm asking how it was implemented

[safe minnow]

We learn that in a different course

[wraith gazelle]

execv

[safe minnow]

I dunno much kernel stuff

[safe minnow]

I like execvp the most

[wraith gazelle]

it's all the same stuff

[safe minnow]

Yeah

[obtuse timber]

hell yeah brother

[safe minnow]

But I like making my own args arrays

[fresh temple]

how did YOU re-implement posix thread using kernel is what I'm asking

[wraith gazelle]

i can't they won't let me

[wraith gazelle]

bro just said he doesn't know how

and you're flaming him

[safe minnow]

Oh I didn't, I don't mean manually implementing my own posix threads, I meant manually creating/spawning and despawning it myself

Cuz it's done a lot more automatically in stuff like Go

[simple garden]

Extraordinary

[fresh temple]

ah ic but it's fun

[fresh temple]

no I misread what he said

[wraith gazelle]

i c

[fresh temple]

I thought he reimplemented pthread

I was like damn that's cool

that's kernel shit

[safe minnow]

💀

That's more in the CE side

[fresh temple]

nah just kernel eng

[wraith gazelle]

not really

[fresh temple]

CE deals with hardware

[wraith gazelle]

yeah

working on operating system stuff is still very CS

[safe minnow]

Hmm it's listed under ECE in our school

[wraith gazelle]

an operating system is just software

CE => hardware

CS => software

roughly

[fresh temple]

more or less

[safe minnow]

Wait what’s EE then

[fresh temple]

not hardware

stupid fukcing transistors

[dense tinsel]

its hard for me to learn ml/ai

[fresh temple]

not like computer hardware

[dense tinsel]

so much more difficult than anything else i do

[wraith gazelle]

how much math do u have?

I would suggest having linear algebra and calc 3 before trying too hard

[fresh temple]

signals processing, electronics / circuits (nothing computers), maybe CE stuff if you want, IC / fpga

[wraith gazelle]

or like a solid understanding

[dense tinsel]

i only know a bit of lin alg and ill take calc 3 next year

[safe minnow]

🤔

Makes sense

[wraith gazelle]

well that's why you're struggling then lol

honestly live your life you youth

u got college to stress about this

[dense tinsel]

well not really the math part i just have hardware constraints

so its weak and cant run shit

[wraith gazelle]

i promise you don't

[safe minnow]

I swear we had this computing discussion before

[wraith gazelle]

stop following tutorials on the internet and cranking up parameters

ML isn't just import tensorflow

[fresh temple]

??

Just run on cloud

there are 20 bajillion solutions out there

[dense tinsel]

yeah true imma go grind out calc hw cya

[fresh temple]

@dense tinsel to actually answer your question from earlier, what's written in C: everything you touch probably deals with C

Your OS is in C
Any embedded system is in C (probably your phone, any smart devices)
Python is just a wrapper around C
Performant algorithms (like LZ4, lossless compression) are written in C
Latency sensitive stuff is written in C (sometimes)

actual brainlet take to think C is not relevant

[wraith gazelle]

yeah it's actually interesting to think about how many of the currently running computer instructions passed through a C compiler at some point

I'd guess >90%

[simple garden]

C is irrelevant

[wraith gazelle]

It's not so much as C is really important, it's more about having a language that compiles straight to assembly.

[simple garden]

AGI (python) is the only thing that matters

[wraith gazelle]

which just historically is C

[safe minnow]

Real

[fresh temple]

all hail pseudocode that runs

[fresh temple]

ong ong

college is literally free

I was slaving away in hs

also ur literally stuck at shcool for a good 7h

that doesn't happen in college

[feral thunder]

fr

I haven’t been to classes in a month and finals are a week away

[autumn roost]

I got an offer in November for an internship for this summer but haven’t heard anything at all since then. Is this Normal? There’s just less than 2 months left until my start date

[brazen nacelle]

Wouldn’t be worried most communication picks up within a month to start

[obtuse timber]

yeah dont worry about it

[pure shuttle]

yeah, thats kinda happening w me this sem rn but its also cuz u get burned out from grinding out everything else

i used to procrastinate by job searching or getting my resume critiqued loll.

[timid wraith]

guys i have an important behavioral interview tomorrow afternoon, would anyone by any chance have time to do a mock interview tonight?

[foggy osprey]

have u tried pramp?

[sinful locust]

c is irrelevant

python only

[river cypress]

use rust

[somber solstice]

isn't rust that really janky language no one uses

[cunning geode]

Fr though

[somber solstice]

yeah, i tried rust and the compiler was rly fkn annoying

it's unintuitive and probably just not useful

[river cypress]

so ez wym

[spark hearth]

yeah it was relatively easy

[river cypress]

(i havent ever done a lc question)

[snow needle]

any c++ users

vector<bool> kidsWithCandies(vector<int>& candies, int extraCandies) {
        vector<bool> ans(candies.size());
        for(int i = *max_element(begin(candies), end(candies)); i < *max_element(begin(candies), end(candies)) + 1; ++i) transform(begin(candies), end(candies), begin(ans), [&](int c) { return (c + extraCandies) >= i; });
        return ans;
    }

can i get this below 3 lines o(n)

issue is back inserter doesnt take r values

if i use max_element inside the lambda it's n^2

because it'll get called every time

i think at least

and the goal was to one line it so i was avoiding declaring another var lol

oh yeah lmao

that for loop was pretty dumb

yeah i think 2 lines is minimum

[snow needle]

I got it

vector<bool> kidsWithCandies(vector<int>& candies, int extraCandies) {
        for(auto i = begin(candies); i != transform(begin(candies), end(candies), begin(candies), [&,i = *max_element(begin(candies), end(candies))](int c) { return (c + extraCandies) >= i; }); ++i) return vector<bool>(begin(candies), end(candies));
    }

its insanely scuffed though

[safe minnow]

[snow needle]

also leetcode gives a warning because there's no return outside the for loop so you cant actually use the one line solution on leetcode itself 💀

[sinful locust]

full time ppl

what time is it good to start applying to places for ft ?

like July?

[fresh temple]

if there are places open in July sure

As soon as they open 🤷‍♀️

[woven loom]

does a google recruiter always reach out to resume reject?

[hallow scroll]

ye

[south aspen]

just take the return to js 😎

[somber solstice]

vector bool

[sinful locust]

He wants capital one for full time

Or Radix

(Same prestige anyways)

amazon

[sinful locust]

amazon

my dream company

yeah gotta get that FAANG internship

no, I am not prestegious enough

[fresh temple]

matthew mcconaughey does

[devout jewel]

Jane street won’t get u in. It sounds like a boomer company 🥱

[sinful locust]

so Amazon?

[gusty kayak]

Anyone interview for tiktok - AML Machine Learning Sys?

[ashen matrix]

how do startups work

[ivory ocean]

brrrt

[ashen matrix]

got an interview for a startup next week that only works with AI stuff

but like funding wise, aren't startups either series A or B

idk kinda confused about this stuff

also where do u check what series is the startup

free pay

[potent imp]

Facts 💯

[ashen matrix]

so i understand that a startup becomes a series based on funding, but what happens if they get a huge contract from government

all i know is that this startup works on AI for dod+ other private defense companies like lockheed/boeing

but im not sure wat its classifed as

pretty sure its either series B or C, crunchbase has like nothing on the company

they got a 50m contract from the dod in 2021

that can't be series A right

nvm pretty sure its series B

i checked

no info on there

[thorn quartz]

imo you keep jerking off

[grand dagger]

just want it to be clear that i saw you mess up that correction, you didn't get away with it fast enough

[sinful locust]

ballmers peak strat >> post nut clarity strat

[ashen matrix]

4 rejections today

i guess companies are reviewing apps now

[dense tinsel]

is stuff like this trustable?

[fresh temple]

extremely reputable

[ashen matrix]

no

[dense tinsel]

the discord for the ai product has over 1k members

[ashen matrix]

if he a mod/owner

prob not sketchy if its just a full in a box on their main website

[dense tinsel]

"This first Generative Coding Machine (GCM) - Multifunction Coding AI - Let the new era of coding begin." product seems decent

innovative fs

[ashen matrix]

wtf is that

[dense tinsel]

WOW

[ashen matrix]

sounds like chatgpt

[dense tinsel]

but better

[safe minnow]

You do realize that if it’s better than chatgpt you either are about to be witness of a world shaking product or it’s a shitty scam/service

[ashen matrix]

let the person dream

[dense tinsel]

it could be world shaking tho

and i get free access

[safe minnow]

It could, I just dont know if the odds favor you very much

[coarse crane]

@hearty river

[upbeat cradle]

bro i hope you're trolling

[dense tinsel]

we'll see after i test the product

[spark hearth]

he not trolling

[dense tinsel]

cant rly speculate before that

[upbeat cradle]

😭

[hallow scroll]

hey i have a crypto startup and can turn a 1k investment to 10k hmu

[snow needle]

this is what i did
||```python
class Solution:
def mergeAlternately(self, word1: str, word2: str) -> str:
return ''.join(i + j for i, j in zip_longest(word1, word2, fillvalue=''))

[thorn quartz]

rather elegant

[thorn quartz]

don’t make me start w u again lil bro

[thorn quartz]

Make sure u run the executable he sends u

[dense tinsel]

nah i wont

its a website tho

dw bro i wont get duped or anything

[thorn quartz]

coolguy was too quick

[thorn quartz]

I’m so proud of you

This is growth

[dense tinsel]

LMAOO

[spark hearth]

can itertools be used in interviews?

[earnest hatch]

I'll allow it

[lethal sand]

good

[spark hearth]

shows ur cheating

[spark hearth]

i dont like ur giannis pfp

wait thats russel westbrook

[spark hearth]

oshi no ko

what a first episode

i couldnt sleep for a couple days

[snow needle]

for normal zip you could do it like this

class Solution:
    def mergeAlternately(self, word1: str, word2: str) -> str:
        return ''.join(i + j for i, j in zip(word1, word2)) + (word1[len(word2):] if len(word1) > len(word2) else word2[len(word1):])

actually this should minimize characters

class Solution:
    def mergeAlternately(self, word1: str, word2: str) -> str:
        return ''.join(i + j for i, j in zip(word1, word2)) + word1[len(word2):] + word2[len(word1):]

[next relic]

has anyone done the coinbase final?

[wicked wind]

Does anyone know where i could find a walkthrough of something akin to an iMessage system design at scale?

[astral tartan]

Does anyone know any tiktok recruiter here? Seems like my current recruiter left the company

[midnight fable]

Are there any winter internships (starting from January) in big tech companies?

[versed kestrel]

I think most companies that do fall, do winter as well

not as many as summer, but a decent amount

[livid atlas]

Flexport does winter

[livid atlas]

It’s 5 month though

[cursive cobalt]

yk when winter comes out?

[fresh temple]

tesla just asked me to do winter

[hallow scroll]

outing bro 💀

[gentle latch]

is ricky actually endorsi?

🍄
🤔

[hallow scroll]

😉

[scarlet kite]

thats a dif problem

[brazen lantern]

congrats

[jade elm]

are they full for fall already??

[fresh temple]

Not offer

[fresh temple]

No clue recruiter just asked

[sinful locust]

no

it’s all team dependent

but a recruiter told me their team hadn’t started fall yet

like last week

[jade elm]

ahh i see

damn, idk what they look for candidates
they never get back to me

maybe I needa make my resume more role specific but idk

[spark hearth]

no

is it ok to renege a week into the internship?

i want to make sure internship doesnt get rescinded

what should i look for in my contract?

[jade elm]

🐐

[spark hearth]

the contract said they can terminate me and i can terminate whenever i want

yesssssssir

wtf

do one-liner text justification

https://leetcode.com/problems/text-justification/

lol

[craggy verge]

Who is gonna hire for 2024 summer? My bet is on Apple, Nvidia and quant.

[tulip aspen]

everyone

[craggy verge]

Aren’t there hiring freezes and offers rescinded?

[tulip aspen]

skill issue

jk

idek

i feel like 2024 summer will still have hiring for interns

idk about ng

[brazen lantern]

btw when does summer 2024 jobs start coming out?

i believe its around august but

ayo

i was wrong

glad I asked

ty

[brazen lantern]

really? like what?

[spark hearth]

july

[left grove]

thats 5 more applications sent

god this is making me depressed

almost at 200 applications

feel like its too late and i gotta lay the ol' resume to rest...

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-3317168

[quaint bolt]

It’s j very rough these couple of seasons unfortunately

have you reached out to uni profs/research labs?

[left grove]

That’s next step in the next few days

[ashen matrix]

Im over 500

[trim stump]

Guys how deep would you have to be to not renage an accepted offer?

for a better internship opportunity -> noticeably better (probably idk)

[fresh temple]

wdym deep

I'd fucking renege if I was working there

be like "yo sorry I quit"

[trim stump]

idk like I got assigned manager and were due an introductory call

and they have all my info for like employment

[spark hearth]

you can still quit

[trim stump]

Yeah im probably going to

[slate dune]

What does an initial phone interview with recruiter looks like? Do they focus on tech questions or behavioural or just if our skills align with the opening?

[solemn cedar]

behavioral a little bit + pay/location/timeline/expectation

[fossil shuttle]

i got verbal offer from the DoD the middle of january, it took them til today to send me the official offer and they gave me one day to accept🤡

going to send them a passive aggressive email saying they shouldnt have taken so long and that i already accepted something else

also took them 3 months after the interview to get back to me

[spark hearth]

what's DoD?

[fossil shuttle]

department of defense

it was a shitty offer anyway, would have to move halfway across the country with no housing assistance and making $18/hr

[fresh temple]

guberment moment

[fossil shuttle]

but it did come with clearance

[safe minnow]

So you got the clearance for free?

[fossil shuttle]

Nah I would’ve had to work there

[safe minnow]

Wait I thought they cleared you then gave you an offer

[tired seal]

i make that working retail part time. guess the entire defense budget also went to Ukraine💀

[fossil shuttle]

I'll be working for a local federal contractor this summer also making 18/hr😩

and i currently work part time as a business analyst for a non profit summer camp and make more than that

[tired seal]

be like that chad on the news and leak all the highly classified information on discord to impress your friends and establish yourself as an Alpha

[fossil shuttle]

sometimes sacrifices need to be made

[tired seal]

how the fk is a non profit paying you more than these places 💀😭🤣

[fossil shuttle]

they do bring in like 60 mil in revenue lolol

[tired seal]

yh but correct me if im wrong but the whole point of a non profit is that they are a non profit? or can they use the money to pay for salaries?

[fossil shuttle]

yeah salaries dont count towards profit, it's an expense

[tired seal]

ohh okay makes sense then

[fossil shuttle]

but a lot of non profits do enlist volunteers

[safe minnow]

Yeah some non profit salaries near a million because of that

For the ceo

[tired seal]

yh exactly i did one and it was unpaid. quit that dont know what i was thinking doing free labor

[tired seal]

thats insane thats a scam 💀

non profit my cheeks

[safe minnow]

It's more nuanced than you might think, sometimes the ceo's impact is far greater than the salary they command, and firing them for someone else would be a net negative in terms of monetary generator or impact

[tired seal]

yh thats very true. guess I just never gave non profits a second thought. Thanks for the info

[brazen nacelle]

has anyone successfully shifted apple from summer to fall before?

[hallow scroll]

they dont do that im pretty sure

[brazen nacelle]

i thought i heard that they do

[hallow scroll]

they dont recruit for fall until june and even then theres very little teams that would allow it, when you got the interview they shouldve asked if you wanted summer or another season, those are the only options since those are the only seasons that HM is looking to hire an intern for

[brazen nacelle]

told HM in interview my coop is in fall so I might not be able to do summer and he said thats fine and they can consider for fall instead

[hallow scroll]

oh then why are you asking us then lol

[brazen nacelle]

recruiter is acting like its not possible lol

so im confused

[hallow scroll]

if they said its cool then its probably cool, apple is super dependent on your HM

just ask worth a shot

[jade elm]

have u tried doing asking for winter?

[ivory ocean]

What sounds better to you guys in a resume

Data Engineer Intern or Software Engineer Intern

Both titles are kinda interchangeable where I’m at

[outer vault]

swe

[ivory ocean]

Ok ty

[umbral badger]

yeah I'm also curious since my first internship, coming up in summer, is mainly devops/data engineering with some nlp thrown in it but it's called "software developer intern"

[spark hearth]

depends on role ur applying

[slate dune]

I have a 30 minutes call with a recruiter for a summer intern. I am kind of unsure what I should prepare for the same?

Any good resources which teach you what to say when asked tell me about yourself?

[lethal sand]

has anyone done patreon OA for SDE intern position?

[vestal quartz]

hi there, can i dm?

[sinful locust]

Is patreon auto OA?

[lethal sand]

did u get as well?

[sinful locust]

Yes

SF

[hardy patrol]

@hollow grove are you adding me to ask about patreon

i love users with 0 messages in the server spam applying friend requests to everyone that mentions in the search bar a company they have an interview for

[hollow grove]

honestly caught me red handed not even gonna pretend LOL

[spark hearth]

ive had like 3 ppl do thay

uve been messaging me since august 💀

[foggy osprey]

dingyy

[twilit jacinth]

how do I prep for my future career as Wendy's cashier

[gentle latch]

i am wondering this also

[twilit jacinth]

yeah as swe wont exist post 2024, I gotta prep for whats to come

[gentle latch]

We must grind leetcashier

[cold bone]

Codesandwich 😞

[potent imp]

Yes it will , SandWich Engineering (SWE) at Subway will be a viable career path

[twilit jacinth]

cs really has the best career exits

thanks dude

[earnest hatch]

Tf, Patreon sending OAs to everyone but me

[grand dagger]

@hardy patrol could you post ur banner? i vibe with it but can’t download on mobile

[earnest hatch]

Congrats!

[soft herald]

mercury or coinbase for summer? im a little sus about coinbase with the layoffs and crypto stuff and mercury seems like it would be more fun (based on the work i'd do), but idk if i should go with coinbase just for the name?

[earnest hatch]

What year are you in?

And what's Mercury, link me to the site

[soft herald]

last year

https://mercury.com/

[earnest hatch]

Oh then I would go with Mercury personally, lower chances of return offer at Coinbase

Someone here recently got return new grad offer with Coinbase and they said there was a really low conversion rate for interns

[soft herald]

asdfghjkl; this is stressful

[earnest hatch]

Have you asked Mercury what their intern conversion rate is?

[soft herald]

yeah they have a pretty high conversion rate

close to all interns

[earnest hatch]

Then I would just go with that tbh. Sure Coinbase has high TC for new grad return offer, but you're gonna always be stressed of being laid off, and chances are you're not even gonna get a return.

[soft herald]

i have a unicorn start up but not a big n

[soft herald]

yeah makes sense

idk i still gotta think on it

[earnest hatch]

Yeah just be sure of whatever decision you make

[soft herald]

yeahhh i dont wanna regret it later on lol

[spark hearth]

java

[left grove]

woopidy doo da woopidy day, im gonna fail this patreon oa

[keen moat]

how was the OA?

[left grove]

havent taken it yet 💀

[keen moat]

Do yours also come with tight due date to do the OA?

[real sedge]

Mercury seems cool

Haskell

[soft herald]

yeah i’m probs gonna accept mercury

[brazen lantern]

when is amazon summer 24 internship app expected to open up?

me?

[silent flax]

Mfw alr given up and accepted an on campus job which pays 15/hr 😔

Waiting for august tho cuz imma be on da LC grind whole summer babyyy

[brazen lantern]

I was just tryna be prepared for summer 2024 🥺

That has nothing to do with this summer

[shrewd cosmos]

Only us citizens?

[floral vapor]

No

[white thunder]

any tips on 45 min technical round with

[fresh temple]

won't mercury beat out the CB offer plus more upside on the equity anyway

[fresh temple]

this is one weird fuckign medium

[real sedge]

Yes

[umbral badger]

when does amazon open applications for winter '24 (if they do winter internships)?

[fresh temple]

tuff

looks like a resume problem

[short nest]

what'd you use to make this]

[fresh temple]

some sankey diagram generator u can find one online

[short nest]

bet thx

[indigo mortar]

Messaged you

[fresh temple]

i love frontend I love html / css I love making websites

🙂

🙂

🙂

[midnight fable]

Had a really stupid question. All these companies have hourly pay, right? So do they keep track of our work time (something like time tracker), or they just pay biweekly or monthly?

Oh, so no one tracks the hours? 🤨

[sinful locust]

Most are salaried

[snow hearth]

mine did, email yesterday, due tonight lol

[left grove]

most likely. I have no previous internship experience so my resume is really mainly just projects

[dense tinsel]

LMAO

[glacial sail]

Y'all need some opinions about rescinding - I accepted 2 intern offers for this summer from Company A and B, I'm planning on working at B

Company A start date is May 8, B is May 22. I already passed background and got my stipend from B. Is it safe to say that I won't get rescinded from B now and should I go ahead and renege A now?

[fresh temple]

just to be safe, you should renege company A after you finish your internship at company B, who knows if they rescind your offer in the middle of the internship

[sinful locust]

Yep, collect them Company A paychecks

[glacial sail]

yee just used placeholders to keep it short

[bleak storm]

anyone interviewed with anyscale hiring manager round?

[granite fulcrum]

any other places still open that do auto codesig? need to do better than 822 😮

[hollow grove]

has anyone finished the recent patreon oa?
mine were some mincomplexity and SQL nonsense

[spark hearth]

yes

patreon oa was easy

[earnest hatch]

Bro just got offer doxxed

[craggy verge]

“They aren’t hiring you. They use the interview process to reject perfectly good applicants in order to prove to USCIS there is no qualified candidate, hence needs to hire foreign workers on H-1B”. They aren’t hiring you. https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/12sh5iz/why_is_there_fucking_8_interviews_for_snowflake/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[potent imp]

I read that yesterday too, is that actually true ??

[craggy verge]

Seems like the most logical explanation. H1B fraud is pretty common for tech companies (quick google search).

[wise vortex]

I'm international, they're doing the same shit with us. I think it's just a shit market and everything's gotten way too competitive, to the point where its more luck than skill. We got ghosted even after final rounds with multiple companies and even after positive feedback lol.

[craggy verge]

I’m not saying the OA is different but the interview evaluation will be. The ghosted after final rounds with positive feedback could happen for a multitude of reasons.

[fresh temple]

bc I hate trees

literally it

[fresh temple]

yeah I mean think about it if 5 candidates get to final round they're all very qualified, and HM can only pick 1, what are the odds you are the best out of the hand-picked 5 that got there?

[spark hearth]

why isnt this 1 line

[spark hearth]

oh my

i shouldnt have asked

you are indeed the one line god

[fresh temple]

can u 1 liner flappy bird pls

[versed kestrel]

prove python 1 liner is turing complete

[frosty spoke]

Anyone got an intern offer from Guidehouse?

[wise vortex]

Anyone with an intern offer from experian this summer?

[runic tundra]

How should someone go about deciding between two startups that pay about the same?

[grand dagger]

我勒個去！！！！

[sinful locust]

Tf am I looking at

[wary harbor]

read it bro

[fresh temple]

this is fucking brilliant

[gaunt turtle]

Bruh

This a whole manifesto fym one liner

[fresh temple]

he means there is no new line character in that code

therefore it is a one-liner

[gaunt turtle]

Still a manifesto lmfao

[spark hearth]

anyone have experience in reneging after start date and after received laptop and lump sum?

[earnest hatch]

Just be nice to the recruiter and let them know ASAP

You will have to return the laptop and bonus, they will help you with that

[spark hearth]

i want to shit on them tho

"this is what you deserve"

[earnest hatch]

Which company?

[spark hearth]

capital one

[earnest hatch]

What'd they do? 🍿

[spark hearth]

gave me a shit project (no coding at all)

[earnest hatch]

Oh, I'm assuming you have another offer lined up?

[spark hearth]

no

[earnest hatch]

Then why renege

[spark hearth]

i want the lump sum

[earnest hatch]

Most places have it in their contract that you have to return it

[spark hearth]

:(

[earnest hatch]

You gotta be in a real privileged position to renege Capital One

[spark hearth]

why

capital one is so shit

[earnest hatch]

Good pay and return offer

[shrewd cosmos]

The title is swe intern but no coding?? 🤯

[spark hearth]

yeah

[earnest hatch]

Not everyone can afford to be picky on projects, especially in these times

[spark hearth]

bruh

there was no coding

i was copying and pasting stuff

data entry

[earnest hatch]

And?? You're getting good pay, you already have Amazon experience it looks like

[spark hearth]

wtf

u stalker?

[earnest hatch]

It says so in the process channel

[spark hearth]

im reneging c1 for amazing

[earnest hatch]

It's up to you if you wanna talk shit on them, the same recruiter may end up at another company you're applying for in the future

So if you wanna take that risk then go ahead

[spark hearth]

im not shitting the recruiter

[earnest hatch]

Yeah they keep lying lol

First said they didn't renege for anything

[spark hearth]

im sorry

i was trying to keep it a secret but it's revealed now

[jade elm]

what do u mean "shit project" ? projects/teams haven't been assigned yet lol

[spark hearth]

last yr

[jade elm]

which loc where u at if u don't mind me asking?

[spark hearth]

mclean

[jade elm]

can i dm?

[earnest hatch]

Bro lmao, caught another lie

[spark hearth]

yeah

[jade elm]

dm'd

[spark hearth]

what's rto?

[livid atlas]

Return offer?

[spark hearth]

yes

[manic vessel]

anyone here interviewed at Samsung Research America for SWE intern?

[dull laurel]

anyone here got an internship offer for this summer from Odoo (Buffalo)?

[lethal sand]

is Palantir still hiring?

[gloomy plover]

@mellow star bot ^

[fresh temple]

yes please zaddy!!

[sinful locust]

Dmed

[next dome]

[shrewd cosmos]

What waa the original message about 😭

[potent imp]

Are they Canadian

[thorn quartz]

Na

[lean jungle]

I did but for ML intern

[manic vessel]

Ahh
What was the overall process like for you?

[hallow scroll]

Team dependent

For me it was oa -> final

Yea

Gl

Yeah last year

It was meh but mostly because I had a very bad manager I basically did nothing lmao, but Ik some people who got better teams

It helped my resume a lot it was my first relatively big internship and I passed screens mostly everywhere

Oh nice nice gl

[short nest]

actual god

[spark hearth]

what are ternaries

[lament sentinel]

@short nest yo I DM'd you about one of your previous apps

[lean jungle]

SRA takes only one interview.. it's a make or break always

It's usually some deep technical questions related to your role + a coding question at the end

[manic vessel]

Guess I need to prepare well then
Thanks a lot!

[lean jungle]

Good luck!!

[manic vessel]

Thank you!

[rigid girder]

why are so many companies hiring for summer 23

a month before summer starts 👀

[ashen matrix]

i have 3 interviews atm

having the most callbacks atm compared to earlier in the semester

i think its mainly cause they didnt know if they were going to hire interns or not

[rigid girder]

jeez i guess because companies are desperate and want to fill HC

[ashen matrix]

i also applied to way more companies since feb

but most told me they just started their process

i think its cause they didnt want to hire and wait months before start date

like hiring in august and having to wait 6+ months, realizing they cant hire them

[slate dune]

Jeez u finding em all on linkedin?

[spark hearth]

link?

[ashen matrix]

[spark hearth]

what companies still hiring

[ashen matrix]

anything still available on linkedin

what i usually do is just check when they made the job app/ the company website

i think indeed sucks, its either linkedin or glassdoor

comcast opening roles for lots of stuff

time to apply for ML grad researcher and get rejected

[marble cove]

@ashen matrix if you see a role you like, send me DM, I can try to help with a referal

[ashen matrix]

how do referrals even work

like, i was told they dont really help for internships

unless u really know them

but like

dont see any swe internships

[marble cove]

We are hiring a bit of ML stuff

[median hedge]

Hey everyone, I’m a freshman in uni and I’m wondering if it’s still worth it to major in CS because of chat gpt and everything

[brave orbit]

I got my offer rescinded this Wednesday for the summer. How possible is it to get a summer internship at this point as an international?

[median hedge]

@sinful locust

[earnest hatch]

It's not, and now even Bard can write code

Game over

[lethal sand]

name and shame?

[brave orbit]

I would, but I don’t want anything to possibly affect interviewing for them for a full time position this fall

They were basically doing layoffs and said they had to rescind. Which is insane, given I got the offer a week ago before that and the recruiter knew I turned down other offers for it.

[ashen matrix]

no its not worth it, its over for tech

[ashen matrix]

couldnt u try and ask the other places that u rejected

if they still needed internship

[gentle latch]

damn that sucks, sorry to hear that

[slate tree]

nah it's not

Accounting is where it's at fr fr

u should go into that; it has hella job opps

[ashen matrix]

jokes aside, depends

[upbeat cradle]

Trad fi better

[upbeat cradle]

No

[hallow scroll]

salat goes to harvard hes fine

[ashen matrix]

Doomed then

[hallow scroll]

@median hedge gg

[ashen matrix]

Send pray3rs

[potent imp]

What else would you have majored in

[spark hearth]

any tips to get invited into parties?

[oak drift]

any tips to get invited into parites

[sinful locust]

chatgpt took my wife from me

we are doomed

[quaint bolt]

@median hedge

[real sedge]

First our jobs
Then our friends and family
What's next 😭

[spark hearth]

you

[raw tusk]

How easy is patreon?

[brazen lantern]

do they pay like 13 bucks an hour

[ashen matrix]

Ml researcher said it was $55

[brazen lantern]

link?

[ashen matrix]

[brazen lantern]

ty

[gentle latch]

class Solution {private final int MOD = (int)(Math.pow(10, 9) + 7);public int numberOfArrays(String s, int k) {long[] waysTable = new long[s.length()];long ways = dfs(0, s, k, waysTable);return (int)(ways);}private long dfs(int index, String s, int k, long[] waysTable) {if (index == s.length()) {return 1;}if (waysTable[index] != 0) {return waysTable[index];}int startIndex = index;long countWays = 0;long num = charToNum(s.charAt(index));if (num == 0) {return 0;}while (num <= k) {countWays += dfs(index + 1, s, k, waysTable) % MOD;index++;if (index == s.length()) {break;}num = num * 10 + (long)charToNum(s.charAt(index));}waysTable[startIndex] = countWays % MOD;return countWays % MOD;}private int charToNum(char ch) {return ch - '0';}}

[gentle latch]

OUR LIVES MR SOULKKS

[brazen lantern]

i am undergrad :/

[ashen matrix]

yea dont think theres any swe internships for comcast

[real sedge]

😭

[midnight fable]

It should atleast be better than ng 2023

[uneven sand]

me and who

[hallow scroll]

yo

[spark hearth]

anyone know who hiring?

linkedin is only giving me the jobs "recommended to you"

[ashen matrix]

didnt u get an internship

[spark hearth]

no

[ashen matrix]

what i usually do is just turn on notifications if theres job openings, ignore the recommended ones

[spark hearth]

ohh

[ashen matrix]

filter internships, try different title names (searches)

and then i just go to a company website and check there if they also have openings

if a company just opened within a few days/within a week, basically insta apply

[spark hearth]

my notificaitons r on, but i dont think i got notified on new job postings

[ashen matrix]

[spark hearth]

@ashen matrix what interviews do u have

[ashen matrix]

title is data scientist intern for all of them

[spark hearth]

wtf the one where the stock is 200k

l

[ashen matrix]

its 500k

but they are a really big organization

[spark hearth]

oml

im not data scientist :(

[ashen matrix]

[mortal cobalt]

i have a swe internship for comcast

"enterprise tech intern"

they are putting me on a swe team afaik

[sinful locust]

What do u do as an enterprise tech intern?

[mortal cobalt]

ur placed on a team and just do dev work i think

[fresh temple]

some companies just have weird titles for swe intern

[mortal cobalt]

i havent started the internship yet

https://comcast.talentify.io/job/enterprise-tech-internship-program-rising-senior-philadelphia-pennsylvania-comcast-r357625

What are the components of the ERP Internship Program?

Interns will be matched to an individual Technology team across Comcast NBCUniversal and in addition to day-to-day work alongside that team, will participate in collective Learning & Development sessions, projects and speaker sessions with members of the ERP Internship cohort. Participants will receive exposure and networking opportunities with the broader Enterprise Rotational Programs, including CORE Finance, Technology, and Cybersecurity.

pretty regular i think

[spark hearth]

what is an enterprise tech intern?

[dense tinsel]

@sinful locust whyd u dm me

[sinful locust]

who knows

[fresh temple]

bc you are an unintentionally funny individual

[spark hearth]

show

[sinful locust]

not pictured:

[rigid girder]

idk what this guy gets non stop trolling cs servers

[fresh temple]

the funny thing is is that he's not trolling

[sinful locust]

I remember being 15, I think I was similar to this dude

@dense tinsel worry about high school gpa and ur social life, you’re putting the cart before the horse

[olive panther]

you guys in your 20s?

[sinful locust]

Unfortunately I am but most people here are like 18-22

[mortal cobalt]

60s

[cursive cobalt]

100s

[warm kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/scaler-create-impact-dog-coding-programming-gif-25011983

[mortal cobalt]

retirement home technology class intern

teaching the elderly how to use gmail

[cursive cobalt]

TC - the inheritance they leave

[clever frost]

Anyone interview at a company called "Annaly Capital Management"?

[upbeat cradle]

Bro how u gonna try to learn ml without knowing any calc

[coarse crane]

vibes

[sinful locust]

There’s a whole Udemy course called “Math for Machine Learning” that goes through the probability statistics linear algebra Calc and so on so gradient descent doesn’t give you a fever

@dense tinsel

[dense tinsel]

oh okie i will check it out

[sinful locust]

u can consider the Andrew Ng series from there but don’t just passively watch videos practice doing Python and analyzing data sets, there’s probably some open courseware with publicly available labs you can practice with

Do like 10 minutes of that a day or something after u take care of the important things, reading atomic habits would do u well also

[ashen matrix]

Ml is overrated

I will make the ai to replacing us

[sinful locust]

@proper escarp

wyd

i’m tryna hit n quit yk?

dm the addy

[coarse crane]

👍 readable and pragmatic

LGTM

[spark hearth]

LGTM

[oak drift]

@dense tinsel you should start playing genshin impact

[spark hearth]

@dense tinsel you should start playing genshin impact

[dense tinsel]

L game

my gf + tons tons of ppl ik play but its boring

my gf whaled a few hundred bucks, L spending

[upbeat cradle]

*egf

[dense tinsel]

and?

egf == gf

[tulip aspen]

nah

egf != gf

matter of fact

egf < gf

[dense tinsel]

eh

true

[wise vortex]

@tropic void are you interning at experian this summer?

[spark hearth]

@tropic void are you interning at experian this summer?

[sinful locust]

as long as ur not playing valorant or genshin i have high hopes for u

[umbral badger]

setting the bar extremely low

[tropic void]

No, joining full time.

[wise vortex]

Great @tropic void , I'm joining as an intern, can you DM?

[raw tusk]

US security clearance means U.S. citizen?

[ashen matrix]

green card/ us citizenship to apply for clearance

most entry dont

i worked at the dod office last summer, they told its very hard/rare for people to have clearance beforehand unless they were transfering from another dod office

or military people

i think its mainly only jobs with private defense companies, cause they try to poach others

they dont pay that much

unless ur working at a private company

u need like 10-15+ years of experience otherwize

for ussocom

[oak drift]

What companies pay more for having security clearance?

[ashen matrix]

u cant work on projects without clearance

[raw tusk]

Ah oh well they required to be US citizen, it was secret security clearance

[agile heath]

anyone who got a samsara offer what was your OA score if you don't mind sharing?

Ahh okay, my data engineer role didn't clear with 777, and now for software engg I'm wondering whether to retake or share the same one

[final cobalt]

I also got the OA. Is it for this summer?

[civic ocean]

did u get rejected for data engineer or just ghosted after oa

[agile heath]

Not really tbh, last question was hard to do with the given time

[agile heath]

Yes

[agile heath]

Ghosted🥲

[cyan garnet]

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1100141792852181032

[strong ridge]

Did they just re-open for software eng? From what I remember they only had data eng

[lethal sand]

did any of you do zoox data science interviews?

[sudden tulip]

damn thats crazy

thats funny as hell tbh

[gentle latch]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[real badge]

rejected in feb after 848. maybe cause canadian or they resume screen after OA

[lethal sand]

^

[ashen matrix]

Company sent a rejection at 11am then sent an interview request an hr ago

Scheduled it anyways

[spark hearth]

💀

[trim stump]

if you renege do you typically have to return merch

it sounds so ridiculous looking back at what I typed 💀

Ill keep it up though saving someone the foolishness

[hardy patrol]

how many people got contacted bruh

i need you guys to decline the test

[raw tusk]

Leetcode has some I think

[hardy patrol]

i think i saw your post on csmajors

on your alt

were you the one who posted a 2023 write up with silicon labs and samsara and shit

[hollow grove]

has anyone received a response from Patreon after the recent OA?

just needa know how many bullets to load in the chamber for russian roulette today

[hardy patrol]

you think its a good idea to ask a recruiter how many spots are open

ill just do it tbh what are they going to do rescind my hypothetical offer

[hollow grove]

😦

[frigid hemlock]

Anyone heard back from yahoo see intern role?

[brazen lantern]

u dont acc?

[fickle ivy]

bro i came in my citadel shirt

i cant send it back

😭

[ivory ocean]

YOU WHAT

[fickle ivy]

oops mb

the garfield rule 34 hittin different

[civic ocean]

I just got an email from patreon recruiter asking for more info after oa

[hollow grove]

oh shit congrats man

i guess ill just lie to myself and say that theyre taking their time with my email lol

[cold bone]

I have an interview for a data science internship tmrw and I have no clue how to market myself for a data science role 😭

[spark hearth]

ur screwed

[wraith gazelle]

Learn the basic models. Linear/logistic regression, decision trees, XGBOOST, etc. know basic probability and statistics and be comfortable with basic python (esp pandas)

[wild plank]

Thoughts on Niantic vs Coinbase vs Amazon

[vestal quartz]

Amazon > Niantic > Coinbase

Congrats also lol

[tulip aspen]

niantic

amazon > coinbase

nvm i lied

amazon > niantic > coinabse

[safe minnow]

Imo Amazon > coinbase > niantic but could depend on what team you get

[vestal quartz]

amazon is p stable still and pay is gud

coinbase feels shaky though for return

[wild plank]

idc about return offer too much for what it's worth, whatever has best resume value

[vestal quartz]

amazon still probs

[wild plank]

For context I have previous experience at Datadog and Amazon

[vestal quartz]

on damn

i guess coinbase if ur not worried abt fte conversion

[wild plank]

Niantic would be a server team in Golang, Amazon would be a backend team for java, Coinbase is IDK

[hallow scroll]

if you dont care for return cb

amazon team is so rng its insane (nvm i saw you interned there already, def cb then to diversify exp)

you could get a random dashboard project but at cb you can chose what you do and more impactful work, id also say in general name is = to amazon

[wild plank]

Curious why not Niantic, honestly don't know much about them

[wild plank]

Also yeah lol

[hallow scroll]

idk anything about niantic either so i cant give my input

[wild plank]

Had a hard time finding ng numbers. Could be decent who knows

I mean probably not lol, but ye. According to glassdoor ng TC is ~190k, but 40k of that is private equity

[tulip aspen]

how u doing bby

[sinful locust]

pip culture apparently

[bitter cairn]

Anyone here interview at Relay (Canada)?

before?

[golden tusk]

Amazon or Coinbase, unless you really like Niantic as a company

@wild plank you can ask in the intern offer debate channel

https://discord.gg/csmajors

[tulip aspen]

YAYAYYAY

THIS MH BOY

[hasty onyx]

anyone do the technical for Patreon?

[raw tusk]

Hey did anyone get internship for Yahoo?

[north scroll]

Hello cherry bomb

[wild plank]

Hello fellow nba2k fan

[spark hearth]

what internship? meta?

[sinful locust]

don't listen to the Amazon simps lol

Coinbase = Niantic > Amazon

Pick something that's gonna be fun

[spark hearth]

coinbase gonna be fun

[gentle latch]

How come?

[sinful locust]

cuz more fun

[raw tusk]

Totally depends on your team

[raw tusk]

1 lc easy, 1 med, 1 sql

[spark hearth]

it was easy

i did it all in one line

[raw tusk]

Did you get it?

[spark hearth]

hehe

i helped a friend 🤭

[sinful locust]

idk it just doesn't seem as interesting as the other two

I'd go Coinbase tbh

[gentle latch]

It has its pros and cons but yeah I def prefer in person

Great for socializing and doing stuff with others

[wild plank]

what do they have planned?

especially for remote

[spark hearth]

work 80 hrs a week

[wild plank]

Wait are we allowed OT?

[spark hearth]

we can talk in dms

[wild plank]

😍

[spark hearth]

😍

[hasty onyx]

That’s the OA. I mean the technical interview

[rapid swan]

based

[steel moon]

well I have bad news for u

[limpid ether]

NGMI.

Just kidding. Hope all goes well ❤️.

[raw tusk]

Is this legit? It comes from "[e-mail]" and it went directly to my junk folder. They sent me an OA before, but I didn't do it yet.

[golden tusk]

If you don’t do it within a week you get rejected

[raw tusk]

They literally said no time limit, oh well

[golden tusk]

Yeah they lie

[raw tusk]

Loool I died at "follow us on linkedin to learn more about our culture 🤣"

[dense tinsel]

everything reminds me of her

[limpid ether]

NGMI.

[hallow scroll]

am i gonna make it

[dense tinsel]

im jk im still with her

[limpid ether]

No.

[hallow scroll]

[frigid gate]

Did anyone apply to Valticle through codeforces ?

[hardy loom]

has anyone done the patreon technical and can answer a few questions?