#2023_summer
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I just wanna chill at a chill company like google
What about still interviewing with the other big names to negotiate with
Yeah ill do that
Dont wanna get lowballed
Also 2s swe
Still got a few years to go so currently putting those thoughts on a back burner
Hopefully a good return offer will eliminate the entire NG recruiting cycle for me
Morn
you will kill cita interview @low vale 
what u work as rn?
what kind?
faaancy
Gl king
are u like a grunt work or are you acc researching stuff?
what does that entail?
and what tools/tech stack u use?
yacc,lex,antlr?
any1 done IBM devops oa?
i see

The rng range with them is insane
I got two sum lol
But ik some guy who got hard dp
They're usually fast
But they have fewer university recruiters so that'll probably have an impact on that
Still expecting it to be relatively fast since we're closer to summer
first final rejection from interview
I need the remote
more applying after class 

btw if ur applying in march or rather at this time
companies get back late march-april/may?

i applied to like 100ish so far, i prob gunna have to spam apply
I’m still spamming
literally want anything data science related
It’s never too late

do you know about the hiring manager interview?
yeah i underestimated the economy atm
what questions can i expect?
Usually it’s behavioral but they can ask anything
i ask recuiter, and they said culture fit and behaviour
Is there a list of questions i should prepare?
usually behavioral, if the guy is a senior person
then they can ask anything technical
or related experience
im internship
Basic behavioral questions
Like talk about your favorite project
Tell me biggest challenge
the interviews i had where there was a senior SWE, DS, analyst
they might ask something related to DS/ python/sql
@sinful locust 
but its mainly behavioral if its with just a HR

Behavioral most likely
and i suck at behavourial interviews
Just lie
i do
final itnerview with manager is just cultural fit
I don’t think anyone actually tells the truth
yea
the interview is 30 mins in total for contex
how is that
a final
did they not ask u that in the recruiter/first interview
its literally the first thing they ask u
Ehhh
it's an introduction
ive been asked it
But in my experience, every interview starts with that question
ur introducing urself to the hiring manager
Yeah it's a very standard intro question
same
kk, just worried cuz i have failed a culture fit/ behavoir interview before 😢
its usually them deciding between you and another candidate
yeah
damn ..
i've been rejected at hiring manager phase cus someone else had more experience
This is an internship role
yeah
yeah
how much experience they want
i didn't lie enough 😢
you lied about past work experience?
mine was mainly cause other guy interest aligned more with the company
like either they want someone local

or they knew that person wouldn't career hop
nah, it's just that my prev internship had 5 people working on one easy project, and i told that to the hiring manager and he was not impressed
i should've said i coded the whole thing
oh
make ur past experience sound challenging
💀
Was it?
yes..
pretty sure its a common thing
Ok ok
@sinful locust ?
either company hires a bunch of interns and throw them on a team
or u be an intern with a bunch of experienced people
my previous internship was me alone ..
i usually do a 1 sentence summary of the internship
what points do you mention in your "tell me about yourself"
basic intro stuff like name, college, interests, and then past exp
it should be less than 1 min cus you'll go deeper in your experience later


like if u enjoy ML, or web dev
3rd year
💀
kek
chilllll 💀
idk what that is
Mine was systems
idk maybe my university doesnt do it
like u focus ur classes in a domain
mine school has a general track
elective/etc
barely ...
like
Theres only like 2 electivers
Like every school has a core curriculum
What are they
litearlly just take any cs classes
Oh lmao
like ML/ web devs/ systems/etc
its different for each year

like logic or calculus


or robotics class or internet system class
That's not cs electives
At least calculus isn't a cs elective

:worry:
Should i mention non technical interests?
:PeepoJesusChrist:
Like web3
and tell them ur interests is watever the internship is in
ok
Is it okay to fake projects?
if u can explain it well
they most likely won't and if they do just say u don't have it anymore lol
talk about a project
personal project yeah?
personal proejct or internship project
kk, i think internship project sounds better
yes
When you can't make things thread safe automatically 😔
how did you solve that problem
By manually adding in the locks
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Try this
don't u need cam on?
whats the probability of me failing this hiring manager round
30 mins, final round
in person
50%
too high
25%
is it a big company?

fairly big
then you'll most likely pass
nah actually they only have 500 employee accoridng to google
smaller company, less chance of pass?
last year, the big companies failed me in final, bank and consulting
interesting.......
i've absolutely bombed behaviorals for big companies and somehow passed lol
i had super stutturs, i literaly paused for 5 minutes, and my stories did not flow
hmm
Does it mean anything since the company is making me go in person?
Ive never been in person for any other interview
they might interview everyone in person
i also had to sign an NDA
for what
talking about your interview
fr?
yeah and you go to jail forever
nah you troll
pbjpie teach me how to pass and i half my salary with you
💀
half salary for 3 months
NDA for behavourial interview seems weird
ddunno if thats standard
Lmao
i can't stop laughing man
lmao
lmao...even funnier cuz it's actually true
is it?
@sinful locust What questions do you usually ask the interviewer?
Can't say true for this specific instance, but nepotism happens in the real world and that's what it speaks to
Yeah to me it reads like someone got salty they were rejected and then posted this to cope with it 
The perfect way to handle saltiness if that is the way...humor in the face of adversity
no intern postings today...
anyone here go through the reddit swe internship interview process
or is there a better place to ask

i just had my round 1 interview this morning
@devout jewel got an offer
oooh okay ty !
hi @devout jewel is it cool if i dm you
or we can chat here whatever
On average per day? Maybe like 3 hrs when I was heavy grinding, now I only do like 30-60 min to do 1-2 lc problems to keep my lc skills fresh

prefer to chat here
did anyone get smartsheet offer?
Did u check #2023_summer_intern_process ? Try DMing those people that did smartsheet
@gentle latch what was reddit final round like
Oh I didn't do it, but @devout jewel got an offer
oh ok
Do you have experience in hiring manager final rounds?
Yeah it was basically just a behavioral interview for me
is there a list of questions that i should study for the behavourial interview?
Look on glassdoor.com
look for what on glassdoor
Questions
company specific questions?
Yeah
ok
Good luck bro
thanks bro
anyone with Tower Research SWE intern process?
anyone have the github list of companies that sponsor/will sponsor h1b for international students
aka the companies that won't ghost you without even viewing your resumes 🥲
nope companies that sponsor H1B or F-1 OPT for international students studying in the US
oh yea ofc ofc, i was jw if there was a list cuz a friend of mine told me that there was lol
thanks anyway doe
Hey has anyone done spotify second round interview?
ok! all g 😎
i just had my round 1 interview, i think it went well
could you share an overview of the process/any tips 👀
God damn chimi is swimming in offers
They still seem to be hiring but I'm not expecting anything at this point from them
I literally reached out to all of discrods hiring team and HR lmao and they're like oh yeah your exp seems good we'll ping the HMs to take a gander at your resume you still have time dw
Do you need a stimulant or a depressant

Fuck
All this time wasted when I could've spent it on acquiring the mythical gf
you still have time dw 
can anyone suggest what I could add to 1 of my experiences
this
oops
1 second 😭
this
Get laid
ChatGPT is pretty hot right now, good skill to have
Wdym
can anyone suggest what to add
cuz all I am doing rn
is web dev
for her overall research page
and then I am going to be doing real research stuff
Just telling this keener highschool kid to touch grass ans forget about this shit now
bro im literally doing the bare minimum
Wisconsin diff
Dick che you know what I won't finish my sentence
bro??
My god multithreading is so fucking broken
Sped up my code by 10x with 4 threads vs 1
Use 100 threads to speed up code 400x 😉
Multitrack drifting but for code
Ok that just slowed down my code by 20x
💀
Spent more time cancelling threads than actually doing shit
L vm moment
I used multithreading in my cs final
for hs
my teacher didnt even bother reading my code
bro gave me a 100
and like a 3% mark boost
95 -> 98
💀
In what language
Ah ok
The basic idea is that multiple threads modifying the same thing can lead to undefined behavior, so you want to "lock" it so only one thread at a time can do it
livelock
Distributed lock
Yeah it's more of a c/c++ thing
ai lock
Cloud lock 

Why is that sad for you?
Infra.
So?
what position
i did final this morning now im waiting

thats rxcky's team 
close world we live in
It just behavorial, leetcode tagged, and eli5 just going over a technical term
What does this mean?
Infra is more like building systems stuff platform is more like extending/monitoring the infra
I interviewed for a role called Infrastructure platform engineering intern where do I fall?
Also depends tho, at cb I was platform and we monitored a lot how performant wallet was
Probably platform, I’d say platform is like a subset of infra
I asked them I want to actually code not just be a YAML monkey but I think he was lying
Fuck
Nah you’re good platform teams dabble in a lot
Would you return to CB Chad mob?
Why do you guys have simp in your names
Yes, high pay and remote. Solid as long as I don’t get laid off 
Im trolling, but i rly dont know what that stands for
Cus we're manifesting getting interviewed and offers from the company we're simping for like for me discord
Simp ❤️
What languages does CB use? Ruby on rails?
They use Coq
anyone heard back after chewy spark hire?
They use ruby for old backend stuff but mostly everything is go now
Everything is like entirely go they have python for data stuff
Why you
me @low vale @simple garden
Anyone know if patreon > amazon? I just got oa
Good, was just the hm tho

Yes but I don't like rails

Nah it’s actually perfect, works out more with what I’ve done in the past
I think the title is just a bit misleading but the projects he told me they’re doing sound cool
Just have to pass on-site now 
Hopefully, apparently it’s more data structures geared
I’ve been on vacation for the last week so I’m rusty lol I’m terrible at dsa
Yeah true
Time to LC
No
Did you accept yet? 👀
Wait til daily
Congrats 
Congrats @stark willow
Eh who cares, discord secured 😎
Nothing just the double faang renege

@stark willow discord offer?

^
Same here I live in nc lol
Discord internship pay is higher then my coinbase full time offer 💀
I wish
Maybe, they’re allowing for me to work while in school which is a W
Wait wdym
Don’t they pay 200k NG?
Prolly prorated
What's CB base?
There’s no buyback?
Actually kinda decent considering how volatile it is you get initial offering so you can just sell immediately
Idk what that is
140

Juster abouta be swimming in that cash
I hope I’m broke
Man your entire discord pfp has too much going on in it
💀

probably not a proper referral, but if they still have good connections with management etc they can probably talk to them personally
I just realized why C does so many "argument returns" where they return the result in an argument instead of a normal return 🤯
Just got rejected from an internship for not knowing the tech stack🤡🤡🤡
Nah, it's better to rescind now so other students can get the spots
If the companies nyumat is referring to is Zon that won't happen necessarily, not sure about Apple though
If you're concerned about ethical implications or whatnot then renege apple rn for sure
Renege Amazon too, so @honest spire can get off waitlist 
Like Zon waitlist is almost definitely not a 1:1 renege = waitlist acceptance

But yeah you're probably safe from rescinds
spam I am
I can't tell if we're about to enter the anime arc or the cat arc from the kpop arc

@hearty river SHOE
Don't hate it until you try it


"Yo, I hear ya. It's like, are we gonna be watching some crazy anime stuff, or are we gonna be seeing cute cats all over the place? And then there's the whole kpop scene to consider, man. Who knows what's gonna happen next? But honestly, I'm down for whatever. Let's just see where this goes, bro."
How long did it take to wrangle that out of chatgpt

Yo, congrats! Who's the girl?
@sinful locust Amazon sde2 or ice spice
It was sde 1 last time, inflation going mad fast
leetcode tagged?
could you share more specifics pls? haha
Questions that are tagged for Reddit on leetcode
aren't those for fulltime?
no its for intern and full time
honestly os u gotta learn by urself scavenging resources
idk why but 3 easy pieces is not a good textbook imho
yes
Nah I love our schools’ os course
I feel it’s so well taught
fuck it's been a while since i reviewed os concepts and i was a ta last winter term
we finished up virtualization and we are currently on concurrency
u got to udub madison?
We did it in reverse
no
was @'ing final
I dm’d
not sure about being normal with ripple, and just dm or email recruiter asap
i got fucked over for ebay oa cuz i couldn't access link and i sent like 10 emails to ripple
tuff
they seem pretty good i think
bizniz about cybersec so prolly more into that but still
made a splash with big sponsorhsips in f1
sponsored mercedes and the safety cars
W recruiter lmao, i didnt even have to email, she emailed rn and sent the proper link

can leidos stfu

which companies are actively hiring SWE interns?
who deleting all these msgs bro
What messages

Yeah it's a defining part of this server
The people delete their messages sometimes go hand and hand with the people who leave and join repeatedly
What are some of the best companies to intern with in New York City?
Jane Street
Datadog
Chick fil a
yakhuna river trading
FTX
Turn off all your devices and start counting sheep
ur chillin brah
like this toad
look up behavioral questions for your company on glassdoor and prepare answers for them beforehand
I have a coding assessment, do u think its best to do it early, or is it fine as long as I do it before the deadline?
I am wondering more so because its for a summer internship
and like the summer term is v close
do it asap
always
i c, ty
Anyone interning at Chewy
anyone hear back from chewy today
i applied this fall lmao
now they want one way interview
Phone interview or pack day?
I think they just started hiring again, I did my final last Wednesday
oh sick
Not sick prob failed it
remove them as a faang at this point
@bleak plover
is it better to schedule interviews ASAP or does it not matter?
Asap, always
thank you!
bro did lc hard in 30 mins 😭😭

Was it only supposed to last 20
Or did you finish early

Aight it’s a wrap
Tanz @ Citadel
if you think about it the internship hunt is just like fortnite we are all trying to hotdrop and get a legendary off rip but reality is it we have to start at green ar and work our way up using our building skills (leetcode, bfs) and as the game goes on the storm gets closer (recession, hc) but at the same time you get stronger you learn more things (amazon LPs) going for victory royale umbrellas
bro explained in fortnite terms
The issue might be in the 3 hour behavioral sessions
Wait did they not get the first one 
Hard to say tbh, it might be worth updating your resume and reapplying again in 6 months if this one doesn’t pan out
If you see what I mean
Nah I have a strong ass feeling campus recruiting is a useless noreply email
In general
Do you have a new recruiter assigned to you
Yeah you can email them right
And get the resume updated
Yeah and seeing how late they’re open I don’t see how they wouldn’t be open by next September
Imo
is it normal for a company to ghost after making it to final interview
ayo lmao
Emailed a week ago, also got ghosted on that
When was ur final? If it's more than 2 weeks ago and no response then most likely a reject
Yeah like 2 weeks at this point
anyone have advice on how i can cold-email amazon recruiters to get a response? i've been on the waitlist for months, and i'm worried they'll be full with how many offers they have given in the past few weeks

GPT-4 currently has a cap of 100 messages every 4 hours

Holy fuck this does one word per second
It's so slow
ok. i've tried, but none have responded rip
no, i'll wait a week until i follow-up, but i'm not confident they'll respond
yeah that makes sense. i'll give it a try, thanks!
Linkedin pfp diff
what am I supposed to answer...
I think no?
I'm assuming the question is like every other question involving that and it's asking if you're a citizen of one of those countries
But they could also be bamboozling you and asking are you not a citizen of the mentioned countries

yeah I read the whole thing and didnt find a question
usually its to ask if youre a citizen of those countries
not me
Depends on team

not too bad, lc mediums + an sql question
Fuck, sql?
thanks bud hope your final goes good
Yeah my friend who got it last year is a QR intern this year
thanks good luck with the process urself
2 lc meds and a sql doesnt sound bad
I'm going through the virtual onsite for product engineering design systems
When do you find out if you got offer?
Did u get discord?
yeah and i was missing a few test cases for 1 of the lc questions but i guess it was alright lol
lmk how it goes for u
same for you champ
Does patreon do fall?
Imo attending JS > attending IMC, but I still think having someone pretend to be you is the move if you get both

recruiter said no fall unfortunately
Idk I haven’t done on-site yet
Still interviewing
@hallow scroll which position did u apply to
Exactly
Revenue infra
Tell them NFTs will bring in a lot of revenue, you got the Coinbase experience 
Yea
Discord nft 
My strengths: I will boost discord's profits by 3x by running NFT scams and forgetting to ban them on time
if they say "Please let us know if you have any approaching deadlines", does telling them I do affect the decision in any way?
My strengths: I’m mommy’s little maid kitty
i passed the technical video screen, moving to on-site virtual now. what team did you interview with? i've been given the options of Android Platform (Mobile) and Data Infrastructure & Engineering (Backend)
if ur looking for practice this is clutch https://www.sql-practice.com/
aight gg
Some internal tooling team
gotcha
you said you got a leetcode tagged problem for the technical interview?
yea
gotcha
design systems
nice
there wasn't a leetcode question?
thank you lmao
gotcha
that's reassuring
I haven't done leetcode in so long and I was praying the 1 hour coding session would be something front-end related
why is this server hell 

Yes this happens to every active
Lifecycle of an active:
Ask about companies -> get sucked into the convos -> become jaded and start shitposting -> go back to lurking
CHANGE UR NICKNAME
NOT MAYBE G
UR LINKEDIN/GOOGLE/MICROSOFT!!!
is it only for me or do you guys also feel in this season is kinda hard to even get an interview with a company?
I applied to 111 intern positions and got reply only from Citadel and Apple lol
others are just ghosting
Citadel 
it's just OA tho
Oh that's auto
yeah
yeah, last year I was getting way more response with no intern experience in my resume, but now even with a past internship exp it's hard
Name value more than exp

School name is huge for first internship esp
Yeah
Any of the t20/ivies should work very well I think
Soph
Yeah fs
Junior year is where we shine 
Did you put down non junior grad date before
Or did you put down junior grad date as a frosh/soph
Ah ok

anyone know about the amazon update delay
what amazon update?
two sugma 😔
Tf
On it
u still doing all 3 this year?

What are some signs that I passed the final HM interview about culture fit and behaviour
receiving an offer
:sus
how to know if i passed before that though
swe, isn't swe known to have the best wlb out of the 3 anyways 
Maybe I'm just talking out of my ass and they have to be oncall or something
Does your friend have prev swe internships? They might force your friend into the QT path if not so
You can't really know until you get the offer, someone else could have performed just as good as you and have the skills/experience they're looking for, there's a lot of different factors. The important thing is to keep applying and interviewing until you get an offer.
But yeah in general swe should have the best wlb I believe
Yeah then swe may not be an open path for them
JS QT wlb seems to be ok too
How the fuck did this guy get into Jane Street, biggest mystery of all time
I grind 
you really made it into jane street?
yes 
QT ?
no swe 
congrats bro
He gained enlightenment after I fed him enough shoes
not underestimating lol
Lockheed -> Amex -> Raddix - JS

i only got ghosted by jane street
Ah ok
did u pass HRT OA ?
Yeah but got resume screened
algo trading?
Nah swe
Rip
the corporate meatriding is real (i don’t have any offers)
u didn't take yrt offer?
also, sus bottles
500$ per hour
@hearty river can you get me Nitro with your Jane Street money?
Whose profile is this? Do you touch grass? 
ive seen someone with every problem completed
how tf is this top 2.96% percent
imagine not finishing all 2600+
Ohh gotchu gotchu
rank 36, by your favorite genshin dps 
Average swe moment
SWE beginners starting their blind 75
@hearty river change it to (shoe muncher)
Completed a technical interview with a company the other day. Explained the correct way to solve the problem but did not have much time to implement the problem. The interviewer asked me to complete the problem after the interview and email the solution directly to him. Would you guys say it is a good sign? Never happened to me before
It's a good sign, but doesn't necessarily mean you're getting an offer
Keep doing other interviews/applying
Thanks, yeah it’s the first phone, should have a final after this so we’ll see
Also wondering if anyone could help w this. I got a technical phone coming up for an iOS engineering intern at apple. Would it be okay for me to ask to solve problems in Java? I know Swift but never solved leetcode qs with it so idk how to go
They are not gonna ask you LC in swift, but they may ask you LC or none at all
Apple interviews vary by team so be prepared for anything
Gotchu, that’s reassuring. My recruiter sent me a coderpad link for the interview so I’m assuming LC might be there
just did hm
yea stack ranking was expected with only 1 spot lol
got email day after final said interviews went well but HM needs to make a decision after few more interviews
youre design system right?
yea
hm 
I know someone in here that just signed for that team
I wonder if its maybe a different subteam or something? no clue
fr? then they would outright rj me then
yea thats what im confused abt i think he signed last week, so why interview you this week
maybe different HM or something or I mightve misremembered what team it was
is it a diff team? ; i dont see any reason why they would stall it out then
If you got phone before the other person got offer they would still let you do phone
and then make decision on reject or not
except i passed recruiter then HM then scheduled onsite and shit taking like a month+
yea the process is kinda long lmao
Damn
im not holding out hope im rusty af with interviewing ☹️
naw @hallow scroll he interviewed diff team
oh W
chat systems instead of like react
wtf is stack ranking
yo folks. i had 3 midterms last week and forgot about one of my job offer's expiration date. i ended up signing and returning the offer two business day after it expired. is this a big problem? i contacted the recruiter but didn't get a reply.
discord said resume screen everyone by mid march right?
it is now mid march
where discord
i think its over
juster is in rev infra late stages and i finished design onsite and those are the only 2 open
agree mr amazon
How do they quantify ur exp ?
is google still interviewing for summer 2023 sde?
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the random cali startup: figma 
does anyone have their superday with citi today
I'm gonna be doing a full-time internship along with a part-time research job over summer. I'm curious, if I applied for a company that requires two internships/work experiences would I be able to?
Chimi just got gewgle yesterday and has already fallen into the hedonic treadmill trap
!!!
But isn’t apple ≈ google
ye
XDDD
anyone did coinbase interview
Did you get an interview/OA from them?
i got OA but i just shared my codesignal with them wbu?
i have yet to do the work style OA though
Nothing yet
good luck!
did u cold email?
hi
i interviewed for fall 22, workstyle oa is new
you heard back from cb?? already??
interview? didn't u do cb internship b4?
what is workstyle oa?
wym? u got rejected already?
fuck me i guess i spammed eveyr single recruiter on monday
They just launched the app last Friday, I wouldn't be concerned about not getting OA yet
i'm getting desp man
this is not good
fuck
why am i such a loser
i want a few more and different environments 
Well yeah I had to interview to get the internship
Coinbase is just starting to send OA, they don't send them to everyone at once
I remember other people in this chat being anxious about not getting it at the same times as others, they still ended up getting it later on
i meant why u have to interview again for summer/fall?

need to skill up ngl
I interviewed for fall and interned in fall
oh wait i didnt' read that correctly i thought u meant u interviewed again for this summer/fall but u meant fall 22
need to stop trying in school and focus on the lc grind honestly not getting much outta my classses 
I don’t think you can get the OA yet, I asked my recruiter for a friend
And he said resumes haven’t been reviewed yet
Actually nvm I guess full send is right
Juster and I interned in fall, feel free to dm me at least
COCO 
JUSTER

MR COCO
LEGOAT

how’s discord process going?
Excited for Amazon
?
Good just did call with the manager and now waiting to hear back if I’m moving on
Legoat at amazon? 
yes
you going to be there?
Coco r u going to zon as well
kek
Surely they will send me OA
i think i'm officially giving up for summer
taking the L
fuck
i'm acc so sad rn i feel so woefully inadequate
Don’t u have Shopify return?
don't really like my team's work
love my team tho
but i wanted to explore other roles
mainly cuz i don't like rails
u didnnt hear back from ripple?
they are stack ranking and only 1 position
whats stack rank?
they shanked me from swe eng intern to platform eng intern and most q's were about infra and i don't know a lot so i wasn't able to give direct answers on domain specific questions
like interview everyone
and then decide
i think
Does anyone know how hard the chewy OA is
I applied a long ass time ago and now they got back to me lmao
its like 12 MC questions about java
did anyone get an email about goldman sachs 2024 opening?
Wtf
the one test case that fails has a typo in it
🤔
very sus
also fuck mettl
pretty cringe OA platform
It’s okay king. This season is very difficult.
👑
Worst case maybe an off season one if one opens?
because u study in a big school bruh
well @midnight sonnet goes to uoft + shopify so he'll be fine
sure
You are him tho, not everybody can be like you
@barren acorn not at UofT no more I told you
bro just keep applying to everything, you'll get something
a lot of companies opening up shit real late
or u won't
and you'll work at shopify forever and die with peanuts tc
we don't want words of encouragement from someone who alr made it 😠
can't you see we're down bad and your success makes us feel bad 😢
reminds us of how much we slackin

yeah im just trolling lol
im doing fine for myself too
just slowly working my way up
Chatgpt was down while I took my online exam
FUCK CHATGPT
@somber solstice
@sinful locust

Good, because I believe in you. You don't need ChatGPT to pass!
when should you use bfs or dfs for a matrix problem like i need to find a valid path between [0][0] and [n-1][n-1]
In this case prolly BFS










looks like they need an intern to fix email formatting