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dude was saying he could get into FAANG without LC, forgetting to mention he was talking about sec and not swe. Once that was cleared up I was like sure that's possible since idk what sec eng interviews are like but he wanted me to bet actual money that he'd get a FAANG role
like dude was fighting shadows lmao
honestly someone with that combative and spiteful a personality might not last long
who cares
the only person I've seen fired at my current company was because he was an asshole ex-microsoft manager
wait what 
yes
エニラ gonna 1v300
these mfs so toxic they're stabbing each other 💀
is n3 hot?
His website https://josephcantrell.org/about.php 
Joseph Cantrell created this personal website detailing a man exploring timespace and programming good fortune through video games such as Prophet Launcher and For My Aspect (F.M.A.).
okay I'm not shocked this guy stabbed someone now
his website sucks lol
what a loser
"I am first to declare I am the strongest man alive by such mechanisms"
I was gonna say this is a giant red flag
fr they basically never check websites or even your github
decent physique though i think
Kinda a shame
I actually put decent effort to polishing my github profile
it's kind of hidden by his baggy clothing
it can still be valuable, my job hired me because of a walkthrough of some of my github projs
no he is filling that hoodie out quite well
Anybody got why good resources for database systems
and maybe if you're being headhunted once you're like senior+ level
I’ve fallen behind and our teacher doesn’t record lectures
Had an interviewer compliment me on my empty GitHub 
what why lol
what exactly did they say?
"I was impressed by your GitHub" or something along those lines, all I had was stuff I cloned from other repositories. My actual stuff was private.
you finessed them
you finessed your interviewer 
maybe ill start cloning random repos to pad my github
this guy is literally me except hes more of a freak
U get green dot for forking
Make green graph sooooo pretty
Salad
Salad
Salad
thinking about making my github completely empty just for jokes
My GitHub is completely empty
Yes who’s bullying you
🫵🫵🫵🫵
that's the strat
my interviewer when they open my GitHub: 👁️ 👄 👁️
my interviewer when they open my GitHub: 🍄
SQL stuff, ER/UML diagrams, we just finished B+ trees and we're on hashing rn
andy pavlo's db courses
Yeah
YT?
yeah
just tried a 30 sec one
holy shit i want to go harder but in class right now
🤡
bro only one on copium is you
can you read
yeah cause the context was swe
you never mentioned sec
because almost no one on here talks about sec
fight fight fight
dude is fighting no one lol
he misunderstood what I was saying and idek what he was fighting over with other people
FIST FIGHT
i didnt fight with anyone lol
ive learned that the best way to fight over cscd is to simply ignore what the delusional person is saying and leave it at that, let them talk to no one
everyone there's a fight going on!!!
idk the context but thats my opionion 
so
DAMN HE FIGHTING WOW
you don't just get banned for no reason on here
you gotta be actively starting shit with people
All I care about is @honest spire getting off Amazon waitlist
1st time: kirb raging at gifs
2nd: disagreed with n3
3rd: pretended to be sushii
can we vote to ban klee for the 4th time again
why do I get the feeling you're not giving us the full pic here
none of those against the rules tho
you don't get banned for disagreeing
that is full pic
i didnt delete nothin
if that was the case then why were neither of us banned 5 mos ago
go look
bc yall didnt do those things
wym we disagreed
you said you got banned for disagreeing w/ someone
that's not a bannable thing
lets bring this to the boxing ring
no i got banned for disagreeing with n3
I got money on Rico
I've disagreed with joey and kirb even before
never banned
it was a dumb misunderstanding over if you can get FAANG without LC
@sinful locust wait it was u who got voted out?
we can only use green scholes algorithm to make options
This is the most important day of my life
he said something wrong about rust like "it uses syscalls therefore it is unsafe by default" then i explained that is not how safety works
then he started raging at me
how much should I charge to do people's OAs?
if I can consistantly get like 800+ on code signal
Can you do my snowflake oa
is this n3 guy banned cause I don't get anything when i name search em lol
Their right kidney
yeah sure
$130
No he just leaves and joins
just tell them u are risking ur career
if you read from beginning to end
and they will gladly pay (i do not condone this behaviro)
@sinful locust stop or I’m going to ban you. Last chance.
salat 🪺 — Today at 5:38 PM
@sinful locust stop or I’m going to ban you. Last chance.
stop what though
salat 🪺 — Today at 5:38 PM
@sinful locust stop or I’m going to ban you. Last chance.
salat 🪺 — Today at 5:38 PM
@sinful locust stop or I’m going to ban you. Last chance.
i know idk why i got banned for it
fr though I want to do OAs
$50 Summer Discount 😼
doing OAs way more fun than grinding leetcode
when should i start practicing OAs?
$100 a pop for FAANG, $250 for quants
how many LCs
(Tears falling down my face…) please peebee, move. It’s what HE would’ve wanted…
I will do ur OA for you if you give me ur right kidney
damn their standards are that low?
You don't need ur right kidney but you need the offer
yeah fuck man
right testical?
oh from kirb
the thing is i had already posted before i read
I said kidney
my b read it wrong
like we were all spamming gifs then he said stop or gonna ban next person in middle of it
its smart thing you didn't accept the bet @terse thunder
💀
what bet lmao
you got sec eng right?
?
security SWE
?
yeah so not swe lmao
Why does everyone ping mods when it's spelled mod

@mosd
so no bet would've even happened
BASIL
I havent seen u since november
yeah I didn't know shit about sec
Yeah you’re sane I think
ong ong
Basil is the secret mod
ive always been around doing things in the bg
work is busy
speaking of which im in a meeting so im gonna pop out for now
have a good day everyone
Love you
Love you
why would I know that
klee is security goat
Mf
The mods here just shitpost
moving goalposts like crazy
we both agreed sec is subset of swe
then you're going to try and do semantics game again
i did but gokugate told me to go back
wtf are you talking about man

fr
whatever i give up
you will not admit defeat
any good places to find swe coops
yeah
bro you got a FAANG job in the middle of the worst tech job market since the dotcom bust, why are you even here still
go celebrate with friends
well if the thing you argued about was whether you could do X thing in 4 months and you did then argument is over and someone lost
just to see the tea
it's fun in here

is it pronounced Lee or k-lee or kl-ee?
do dogs wear pants on their hind legs
there's no tea lol you're just fighting with random people on discord
they're not random
goku typed once in amazon chat and i said "yo its goku" and he was like "how tf this mf know me so fast"
avg cscareers dev
KLEE is a dynamic symbolic execution engine built on top of the LLVM compiler infrastructure, and available under the UIUC open source license. For more information on what KLEE is and what it can do, see the OSDI 2008 paper.
wym we're mostly strangers to each other here
who
That means I own you
real ones remember the days when goku asked everyone their LC count
no way

ok
me, this n3 guy, the mods lol
😟
dude can this mf thomas stop
constant twitch spam
n3 beef is done
he interviewed me and i didnt bring it up
mods never had beef with me @terse thunder
thats cap
you literally said you got banned because you disagreed with this guy
They reject us 10x with the same one
yeah
5d way of advertising anti-leetcode doctrine
bot mentality
bro you think we like leetcode?
thomas needs to shut the FUCK up
most people just up with it
holy shit i muted it but im getting more
im giving goku this account
i just made it to prove @terse thunder wrong
publicly
you didn't prove me wrong lmao
humiliatingly
you just made an ass of yourself and annoyed everybody
you're not banned
bros got nothing
bro can you read
i went through worse
in your head?
bro go celebrate why are you here fighting randos on discord
lol
alright chat’s getting too toxic for this time of day
no, toxic breeds competition, which is good
mr wagonov
yahkuna grindset
yall memereacted me and called me dumdum for saying my truth
now i proved it for certain yall wanna forget
yahk banset
no one here called you dumb they just disagreed
No one cares I think
Goofy ahhh
not you but someone else did
aint im done i said my shit
Make a market on this
klee you need to cool off for a bit lol it’s great you got an offer but why’re you here on discord beefing with randoms 
i was just saying bc they said i couldnt
im down now
yo
⁉️
dont worry about it
Man go back to sending kpop stuff
timing klee out so they can chill 
lmao this is why you don't open disc in public
This shit is way worse
anyways
wagon when we going to google @quaint bolt
i expect u to be in the bay this summer
Did you not see the part where he was attacking people or what
they were?
You should add a professional photo to your linkedin
u can just live in my apartment
we can have lunch dates
u can eat more than the scraps !! @low vale
with kirby gone, i can be weird haha
jk jk
i will be tamed because of juda
I just crossed 300 applications 🥲
Avg twitter user
Does anyone know if the language we use in Karat matter?
who cares
Preferrably English
anyways let's drop it
But Python is usually the best
lets keep talking about klee
yeah there's no point its a dumb discussion
@honest spire
That sounds more of a final thing
yes
Oh
or kotlin
Like health?
OH SHIT U GOT CALL
Wait I'm confused
bruh

Use dart
what is even the benefit of kotlin > java in non-android dev
Yo what if you coded in a language your interview couldn't understand at all
honest question idk much about the differences
And all you did was print the outputs
Has anyone done the Lyft laptop interview? I have it tomorrow so any insight about it would be appreciated.
lc in assembly 
I've seen someone done this. there's a youtube video
YEAT
the guy solved 2 sum in assembly
Then make some mumbo jumbo bullshit
@simple garden
Ok first we use the ford fulkson flow algorithm but we do it on bitwise dp bijection
How did you get to this board

this looks like a WoW toolbar

Can we go back to talking about Yahkuna
No
Kaisa yes
Jax is still pretty bad
Does anyone know if snowflake is still going for the summer?
Mf dies to anything that moves
Bro I can't even see mecha prime Jax as a comp
Below .01 presence
Match presence
In 100 games less than 1 person picks him

Tanz speedrun to gold any%
Wait this isn't ranked?

Ohhhhhh
Ok now everything makes sense
Hyperroll is getting deleted
No I'm serious
Not now
But it will get deleted
Mort said so
He said he would make a better mode in place
dm @hearty river for twitch hot tub stream recs
Didn't you play fortune's favor
@honest spire
Fortune's favor was so gas
It was basically urf
Every game multiple 5 cost 3 stars
yo
@hearty river
Goku is so funny
Yeah
Someone invite his cute ass
His cute goofy booty
Free endorsi and Goku
why is an empty string not considered null in TS wtf
been causing me problems all afternoon until I just realized that
why not bro
lol
Where
I don’t see endorsi
The real endorsi is within
how do I get endorsi within*
He’s already inside
Where does the bot get the data for "Most Popular Problems for Company (last 6 months)" list? I assumed it was from the lc premium company list but this bot differs from that
That is what I assumed. It seems as though it keeps questions from of all time, even though it explicitly says (last 6 months)
I was kinda wondering if users here were anonymously reporting what questions they got and someone in the server kept that data or something
Yeah
I love it when threads are randomized so I have to step through 50 breakpoints in gdb to get the one that segfaults
is wing still actively hiring for summer right now?
Most things are 
You will be the one that makes Python as fast as C
Embrace your destiny
use set with c++ embrace the best language
Oh so it’s not a real person
Anyone interview for Splunk site reliability
Even the hardest ones?
did anyone get google step seoul
OA?
i received the OA
I'd say my CV is mediocre, 0 prior internships
but I had a referral
damn seoul OA is probably actually hard
rip Korea sweats
💀
sending my prayers
🙏
seems like most google korea roles expect you to speak decent english
so maybe i'll get to dodge some of the local competition 🤷
koreans seem to go pretty hard on leetcode
or their equivalent of
ru not in korea
OHHHH
OHHH THEY PAY YOU
OHH
i thought it was like the US in which they reject if not korean
or internationals = hard mode
ah icic
I went to korea for a month back in January, I havent been to the country in like 9 years
man that place is so extra
ads everywhere, shops playing loud music on the streets everywhere
the text to speech lady tells me to wear a mask every time i swipe my subway card
radio ads in the bus and subway too
we fighting thomas
Is this the guy
The most interesting piece of advice I've gotten for cit is not to try to vibe with your interviewer and just get straight to the problem
Cuz the guy is alr dead inside
Well no
You’re not FT
Headlands
The raging inferno
And then we start our own shop
You have to work over 100 hours a week to not get fired
No we call it Research Almaeda
We gotta outdo headlands
Def can. Got rejected at team match. Was so devastating considering it was my first interview loop for this season ;((
anybody negotiated their tesla offer
do i just say yo im getting x from this company lol
Is this the fifth time you've sent that
@sinful locust hello 👋
imagine reneging tesla
How many people go from semi finals to offer from Kleiner Perkins engineering fellowship. I already have an offer from one of their partners (Robinhood) which I'm going with.
ok n3-san
like me
9:30?

Aight
Easiest phone of your life
He's in your walls already
Watching you
wtf happened this week 😭 after a month of nothing i suddenyl have 5 interviews scheduled
which companies?
mathworks, capital one, qualcomm, fnz, and 🤮🤮cognizant🤮🤮
Congrats
thanku
They got reneged 💀
im uk based 
i applied 3 days ago lol
its not always that great, i got ghosted for like 3 months for the ng position then got rejected lol
reapplied for intern and apparently they liked me
Tf? Does c1 not do the same model as other companies?
Where they overhire by the % they predict they'll be reneged by
theyre mostly closed here too, only hiring for interns and only in some tiny ass city

💀 💀
Wait isn't that good prep for final?
Surely final is gonna be hard
Some do yeah
Well it's more like it's complete rng
Zon part 2
OA -> Phone -> Final -> some shit
What's easier than 2sum tf
Count vowels in array?

Ok that's a 2 liner

LC med?

Was your interviewer dead inside
"Do you regret working here"

Wait so '12' = 12?
Oh yeah then it's more lines

There is a super fucking clean 2 liner
def extract_numbers(string):
# Use regex to find all numbers in the string
numbers = re.findall(r'\d+', string)
# Convert each number from string to integer
return [int(n) for n in numbers]
regex 
Oh


Wait so you would have to find the minimum window that contains every number?
Logn I think since he made the input sorted in the follow up
Can’t remember
Yeah mine was lost
List
Did the interviewer turn on his camera
interviewers don't turn them on?
No
They don’t want you to see the emptiness in their eyes
Like 1.5 wks
Most happy citadel employee
is this trick question, I assumed it was talking about call stack but he meant stack frame
my os test 
one of the few questions I got right 
Should have answered false
Anyone in the process with squarespace before
Yeah
Last year it was OA -> recruiter call -> leetcode interview -> system design
Wtf square space asking sys des for
Ss doesnt want only lc monkeys
Whatttt
You again
System design for intern
Yo is hubspot still open
I just realized that they are one of the few places where I can practice my system design interview skills


skill issue
Nah I just need to change the role I'm applying for
Visa L
Wtf
Yeah I know that you just gone through the entire USA pipeline
How's Mexico

Could have seen the sixers in cancun
😂
It's because enough people cancelled the final/declined offer.
ayo who is this


For the majority of companies it's not really that different. Maybe apps open up like 1 month later on average.
Although some of the processes are different, like C1 had some HireVue shit on top of the Codesignal GCA
Is the 8vc OA auto?
I ended up getting denied from an internship that I for sure thought I had for the summer, do you guys think It's to late to keep applying for a summer internship?
Where do you guys usually apply, I'm looking for literally anything at this point front-end or back-end as long as its in the summer
angel list has been shit
like i apply and never hear back
usually pitt or genral googling but now i've develop a strart of maxing application submission via LI
i filter by opened in last 24 hours and spam apply all the ones i care about and repeat everyday
post on #1019675142248468601 and tag me
im doing this.
yo if it’s been a week since ur final and got nothing yet do u assume that ur getting ghosted?
square took a month then told me it was bc they paused hiring and would hmu if they resumed 💀
not always a ghost
Depends on company but usually no
I think the fact that jump gives phone call to all candidates after final round is brutal
cb was the fastest i got offer an hour after my final 💀
fuck that. pls call for offer and email for reject
.
yea companies who dont take 3 millions years for some extensive stack ranking hiring review bullshit are goated
recruiters love teasing fr
fr
i hope ricky rejected his discord offer, apparently im interviewing for the same team he got offer from 
how can i compare to 4x faang man
Discord for example, we don't know what their conversion rate is for interns. 2Sigma would be shitty WLB/high stress.
Kpop pfp better
I just did the oa but I think it went p well
2 sigma shitty WLB 🤔
Jump is high key that
Rejection call

Ok nvm go back
This shit is way too jarring
Massive L because they hype you up for a few minutes too
It wouldn’t have been so jarring if it was not a blue background
I wonder if those recruiters see the most people cry out of all recruiters
Apparently it’s 45 plus or minus 5 hours
Which is good
But hearsay from my end

has anyone gotten rejected by citadel after oa
No one does
Idk, I was just speculating
If you get rejected it means you’re about to be arrested
Cuz they check you for outstanding warrants after OA
Would you take it over slack
yea true, the team sounds so sick bruh 😩
yes
If discord has good WLB then I would want to try overemployed on them
yeah true i thought about that but i wanna wait to see if i actually get an offer
Highly unethical to be overemployed on internships, you could be preventing someone from getting one of the internships and converting to a full-time role
I mean ft, overemployed on intern sounds like a waste of time
Who ping
Hello
Hello
wait whats discord new grad package all i see on levels is mid level salary
200 range
tru
L leetcode better
yea judging by the oa seems like they prioritize swe skills compared to lc skills
how? did you pocket housing?
zon pays like 60-65? I think + like 7k housing
W, is the onsite the only technical round I know theirs a recruiter phone and HM phone but are those both pure behavioral
How would you feel if one of your citadel interviewers sounded very energetic
yea I just did the oa. Revenue infra
Do they only have one slot
one what
oh
one slot per role/team I think yea lol
thank you thank you 🙏
might just grind practice programing as opposed to leetcode lol
65? 
How do u practice design

Do all 4 internships at the same time
Tanz renters doomer mode
You were heavily doomer before you zon offer
That time period
I think

nah i think he got snap spring
he was trying to do msft and google at the same time lol
For interns? No
For FT yeah

Like it's possible but the # of people who actually do it is very very low
What do you say
Hello I am FT at HRT and Google, should I add Microsoft to the mix
I worry that I will not have enough money to retire by 25
My man’s changed

He’s been infected with the kpop virus
Doctors say that it’s non terminal but you will have this disease for the rest of your life
Yeah it’s heavily foundational
Oregon?
LeGoat
My schools LA class is really cool in theory but sucks in reality
We do stuff in Python like PCA and ML
image transforms
Not calc 3?

amazon moved to another job? but no current applications
no current applications tho
Surely that can’t be true
anyone gotta template on how to ask old manager for return internship?
😢
amzn intern friend told me it happened to him last year. says its internal processing, not exactly an offer
A gigabyte is 1024 kilobytes right
Oh shit u right
Rn I'm trying to figure out my padding for malloc
Krishna is a freshman so yea

One of our 2 freshies
And the more active of the 2
Disillusioned worker moment
Being a soph rn is also great
We got a very great soph class here

Send pic
im ariel
we look the same i promise
i am also pale
it was me
but u misremembered it was uw madison
not oregon
i am a he though
my bad i couldnt suppress my immense power
andy jassy sensed it thats why he resume rejected me
he knew i was coming for his title
i will be so sad
i am not built for htis weather
my level of happiness directly correlates with how much sunlight im receiving

phone is supposed to be out today
I had an interview with Apple on Monday, January 30th. I thought I did well. I emailed my interview 15 minutes after the interview telling her I enjoyed our conversation and thanking her for taking the time to speak with me. She replied back Thursday the 2nd saying exactly this,
“Hi [name],
It was nice to meet you and I really enjoyed our conversation too and learning about your experience and interests. I just heard the recruiter is out of office but please expect to hear back soon! 🙂
Best, [name]”
Yes, she did include a smiley emoji. I waited until Wednesday of the next week and and still didn’t get any news or a receive a reply. So on Wednesday the 8th I emailed to check in with her and see if there were any updates. She replied on Saturday the 11th,
“Hi [name],
Aw man, sorry to hear about the delay. I enjoyed our conversation and was hoping you’d hear back soon. Let me check again with the recruiter on Monday.
Have a great weekend!
Best, [name]”
I took this response as a good sign and sent her a reply the next day saying that sounds good and I’m excited to hear back. I then didn’t hear anything so I emailed her on Wednesday the 15th to check in with her again and see if there was any update.I didn’t hear anything. So on Monday morning,February 20th. I emailed her again, that since we last spoke I have not received any news/respond/feedback. asking for an update or if she could provide me the recruiters email to I can reach out to them directly.
any thoughts? any advice? did i get rejected? why did she just stop replying
sorry for the long messages, just really want some other opinions
ye type shit
ah I havent heard back yet - have you?
maybe shes just on 2week pto!
ah gotcha thanks
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yea
yea yea for sure
@hallow scroll thoughts?
nice - congrats
which oa did u do
I did the second one
like the one they sent after the first one
ah yeah I pretty much did the same on the one I did
i hate going outsdie and traveling
the second hackerrank i passed everything but it was timing out on one of them
Yeah, blazed through q1 and q2, and had some issues with q3
What
i just had to change list into a set to figure it out
Bro this guy fr u also just posted this long ass paragraph on Reddit
nice, yeah I spent a bit too much time on the first two bc I was rusty on the concepts that was tested over - so i ran out of time on the last one
it was tested weirdly lol but it wasn't too bad i think
? bro always be talking like he a old man or smth
I wrote and explained an algo for it but i probably had a few errors
Yeah it wasnt bad at all haha
ur a freshie ur chillin bro 🤣
i heard it's gonna be behavioral then just offers
Thats actually fire
fr bro be acting like he dont got time left or smth
It would just be working on a project over the summer right?
Yahoo vs chamberlain group ios dev which one?
Anyone interning at fidelity here?
rish remember me
Charlie #1000 is
Brother do u jst farm offers
yes
Who are you people
Can someone give me offer
Ah
Yooo
One day I shall get googl 
For now I will stick to Lazard

Naw I was just interested in the Fidelity programs
How do you get into them
Bless up
Why do u care if kpop gifs show up in front of friend?
yessir!!
geico still a W
trueing
dropping out if the people behind me in class even suspect me of following kpop culture
you got geico right?
yea
sweet

OVEREMPLOYEEDDD
love auto reject
idk how but i got an intel interview when i had literally 0 experience and projects but cant get one after a f500 on my resume and 3 websites
cant imagine how cringe that intel interview was btw like i had 0 clue what i was doing and kept swiveling in my chair like an adhd case study
💀
yea ik i have some hardware stuff
Ya got any templates to turning a company down?
send them my way
"While interviewing I sensed a severe lack of skill at ur company"
or just email them "Skill issue"
Did they tell u today?
nah
that was jan
he died :(
ur funny if you think stupid horse will live against lightning mcqueen
yo he filled with gas
fr 😭 id be happy if I can make it to the onsite
Everywhere, everyone wants to work at Discord
Imagine just chatting in Discord all day and being paid for it

I wish I got an interview 
Whose paying
guess i aint average 🤷♂️
to be fair most people at my local state college don't even bother.
either they give up, or they find some local small company and work for 60k a year.
The fact you got an offer, I think that puts you above the average for sure.
Someone for our school filed ferpa results lmao
2.84% admission rate for OOS guys for CS
LOL

I need to shower
Hi
i want that
a singular greeting to you aswell
laughing all the way to the bank 🥶
what's oos?
is it out of state?
Out of state
anyone do tesla interview?
Yo what team? Internal tooling?
Nah, relatively important team too, most teams are like this
Wtf
Intern return rate is low bc it’s low
They base it on resume I think
Or maybe it’s harder for interns idk
But ft work <= pre layoff google
Or roughly the same? It’s a chill company, I don’t have a frame of reference for these claims
I’m not sure why it’s low
Yeah but FT is really chill
I spent ~2.5 weeks doing literally nothing (not even showing up to work) cuz we were not assigned teams
Yeah cool work + chill place
Rare combo
Usually chill places are super boring
For Waterloo
Hey y’all a bit new here, what tips would you recommend for being successful in your internship
esp cuz its not possible to find gf
i would rather pay 50k for dowry
Look in GGIS
Might be worse for interns
It’s like 90% girls
I’d imagine the knowledge of a low RO rate will cause them to work harder
Lmao why
A college her
Why is GGIS 90% female
yeah but i also need to cs
That seems so odd
Beats me
Just take a few ggis classes
Surely they fulfill some gen eds
If you’re gonna commute 2.5 hours each way
Keep in mind we are in the middle of nowhere
Not Chicago
The only catch with good WLB is it’s in California
So there isn’t much to do in ur life outside of work
Unless you want to climb or ski all day or something
I feel it’s more of a San Mateo issue
🤔
Maybe
lmao where else do you wanna be
If it was LA it would be diff no?
Not biased
I will
what is there in NYC that you can't do in other cities?
me when i pay $4000 to share a box with a roommate
aren't seattle, boston and chicago comparable in this aspect?
definitely not la though lmao
Yeah in Bay Area for example to eat at a restaurant you need a reservation far in advance and have all your friends drive 40 minutes to the place
At nyc it’s just taking the train a bit further north after work or something

SF is so great
Dirty bad weather
free presents on the doorstep every morning
Free biological samples 😍
Pro: Tanz lives there 
I actually didn't know that! I thought they were both dense tall cities
Bad weather is the only real con, crowdedness is mostly a pro but it’s a con I guess if you like nature




