For next year it might be different than last year, but the thing is things change and nothing is guaranteed, only planned
#2023_summer
golden tusk
sly copper
nah more like it shows you're unavailable
muted summit
whens your final for hrt @inner kernel
what resources are you using for os
i wanna learn os before i take the class next sem just for general knowledge etc
crisp berry
snap appears to have closed their internship postings already; did anyone hear back from them?
muted summit
wonder if being good at OS still help my DSA skills lmao
ocean minnow
should all the benefits... be in the contract?
like housing/food
housing stipend?
ohhh ok
ur a blessing ty
ahh ok tyty
ty k man
omw deleting all my past chats
thanks 
open dm
frozen pivot
wait was the amazon shit cap
honestly yea
ig im dumb
i didn’t read the official text he posted, was it an obvious troll
hardy patrol
another soul claimed by the cscd deep state
static spindle
the entirety of the amazon discord is evidence that people hired by amazon are, in fact, not extremely intelligent
crimson field
anyone else get an update from walmart "we are currently determining next steps ... plan to have this determined by Nov 30" ?
hushed charm
@ocean minnow is GOATED
gloomy plover
@honest spire i subbed to roku's student network and they sent me a bunch of new roles pog
obsidian sedge
the entirety of the amazon discord is evidence that people hired by amazon are, ...
Honestly, the amazon discord is hell
It's hard to believe that some of them got full time offers or offers at all lol
sinful locust
What they say in amazon discord
obsidian sedge
Oh there's a whole bunch of shit
like 10k i think
Saw one dude being racist in there the other day 💀
static spindle
Honestly, the amazon discord is hell
unironically yes
hushed charm
It's hard to believe that some of them got full time offers or offers at all lol
my take is that they hire so many people that theres a REALLY wide variation of talent
static spindle
Saw one dude being racist in there the other day 💀
also not surprising
10k is still fucking huge even for 3 years
no i swear the jpmc discord has like 500-1000 which is still a lot
but the people there are a lot less
problematic
no behavioral round 
hushed charm
no i swear the jpmc discord has like 500-1000 which is still a lot
whats that? 👀
I interned amazon last summer but i dont know what jpmc discord is
static spindle
hushed charm
I didnt get return offer this summer cuz i was dumb
but now i hear amazon mostly firing from my org
ocean minnow
<@207665403248377857> is GOATED
hushed charm
🤣
karmic path
any last minute tips for apple phone prep?
job posting says preferred languages of Go, Ruby and/or Python
quaint bolt
it's random
team dependent
so unless someone has interviewed with your team it won't help
rough ingot
anyone else get an update from walmart "we are currently determining next steps ...
I got this
hollow field
Unless it’s someone who works hard and starts early
obsidian sedge
when i was 18 i was thinking "what's a code?"
hardy patrol
woke up one day and was like right i forgot i need money
scenic sluice
True
echo lynx
hey folks.
Please, does anyone have an idea which companies are hiring for Fall 2023 right now?
stone echo
take ddog over amazon
ur treated like a person lol
and have more impact on average
datadog over amazon any day
idk i got both
fervent flax
is offseason that easy to get?
echo lynx
Do you think Snap is?
fervent flax
CITADEL EASY TO MOVE 👀?
echo lynx
Ah wow, is this for Snap?
fervent flax
rip :((
echo lynx
Ah, it's likely to have a Fall 2023 internship for Snap?
Ah, that's excellent then.
So if you have an offer, you should likely be able move it to Fall right?
fervent flax
echo lynx
Thanks so much for the detailed reply.
hollow field
Dog > banana
Realistically tho doesn’t Amazon pay more
So if tc was a rlly big factor then amazon >
static spindle
its barely more tbh, unless ddog doesnt give housing
hollow field
Oh meant ft
static spindle
but if you dont go to ddog, will you ever find out what the dog doin?
hollow field
Intern pay is usually around the same for most companies
static spindle
i think name wise amazon > ddog
hollow field
For juniors tho datadog might be better then
hushed charm
yea ive heard culture is nice
oblique sonnet
is there someone who got the final technical form but not yet receive specific date and time from ebay?
fervent fulcrum
anyone else get an update from walmart "we are currently determining next steps ...
got this too. any idea what it might mean?
hushed charm
searching @quaint bolt comments on ddog he doesnt like product
which is understandable
fervent fulcrum
maybe they reached head count?
craggy coral
anyone done the final group interview for RBI (intern). Never done a group interview before and not really sure what to expect
quaint bolt
searching <@426054830562213889> comments on ddog he doesnt like product
hello this is true
earnest hatch
searching <@426054830562213889> comments on ddog he doesnt like product
The cute dog logo makes up for it. Doggo > Bananas
hushed charm
And you can trust me bc I have ddog offer and have worked at banana
what org in banana
i think weve talked b4 and i know you were in van lol
I feel like culture is hit or miss at larger companies, so if you hit the jackpot i understand if you stay
but for a lot of people they get absolutely shit teams
static spindle
what org in banana
zon
static spindle
yeah lol
hushed charm
near swallow
If u read this ur banned
gloomy plover
anybody ever done a swe/front-end apps intern interview for qualcomm? if so hmu!
near swallow
This server does not condone sharing answers publicly btw so @earnest hatch i am deleting
gloomy plover
just finished confluent oa today after they sent it this morning
earnest hatch
This server does not condone sharing answers publicly btw so <@79662119598188135...
Yeah I was trolling, I never pass Airbnb screen
near swallow
O
hearty river
SpongeBob be quivering 
hushed charm
@near swallow 1v1 me first 5, loser gets banned from cscareers
earnest hatch
SpongeBob be quivering <:CH_Skull:962385688949588068>
stone echo
is it
ocean minnow
i read teh message from Kirb :(
hollow field
Rip I think LinkedIn full stack basically full
real sedge
DataDog is just a dashboard, boring product /s
everything is just a dashboard
OS is just a dashboard 4 ppl 2 interact wit hardwar
evry dev is a frontend dev
once u acknowledg dis u wil b enlitend
sand coral
AirBnB OA is not auto
summer sequoia
Amazon vs Oracle?
static spindle
20$ unironically
we need a time range though
i say no rescind within 2022
oh wait you said no rescind 😔
yes 
brave orbit
Yeah I’m def staying a fifth year to do ms just so I can have one more summer to find a valid internship
What’s the probability next year hiring is gonna get better
real sedge
What’s the probability next year hiring is gonna get better
no 1 knos
no 1 can giv u a probability
dat is accurate
but i'd say 22%
brave orbit
Misworded it, just looking for opinions
So 78% chance in your opinion that it’ll get worse🥲
ivory pier
Does anyone know how to send a console log from node js into a vuejs frontend?
static spindle
Does anyone know how to send a console log from node js into a vuejs frontend?
idk if you can do this? are you using express?
ivory pier
idk if you can do this? are you using express?
Yes I am
hardy patrol
codesignal test cases are the bane of my fucking existence
static spindle
yeah i dont think you can just send a console log, you probably have to set up endpoints and get data from express with http requests
unkempt lance
Hey all! I applied to Riot in early Sept, got the OA early October and aced it, but haven't heard anything since. It's been over a month, is this wait time normal? I haven't gotten a rejection email but I also didn't get anything to schedule the next steps
ivory pier
Hey all! I applied to Riot in early Sept, got the OA early October and aced it, ...
I had a final interview 2 months ago and still haven't heard back
These companies are ridiculous
unkempt lance
Ok thanks!
indigo blade
Last year the company ghosted me for 2 months after final and then offer me the position.
unkempt lance
Sounds good, it's confusing why the wouldn't follow up after a perfect OA 🤷♂️
indigo blade
Sounds good, it's confusing why the wouldn't follow up after a perfect OA 🤷♂️
Did you try to follow up with them?
unkempt lance
How would I follow up? They have only contacted me with no reply emails
indigo blade
damn
unkempt lance
I've looked for recruiter contact but couldn't really find anything besides LinkedIn/Twitter profiles of recruiters, might resort to that
scarlet pike
glad plume
any more thoughts on databricks vs plaid?
real sedge
any more thoughts on databricks vs plaid?
Not too sure but I think Plaid has toxic culture
glad plume
oh really, how so? like bad wlb?
real sedge
Well teamblind gives it a good score
But I talked to som1 who had a rlly bad experience
So ignore me lol
glad plume
so you think plaid is more overvalued than db
glad plume
oof
glad plume
what companies would y'all pick over db?
real sedge
But ya their last valuation was at 90x
I'm pretty sure 40~50x is the norm for hot startups
Reppin databricks rn
glad plume
would y'all pick scale ai over db and plaid?
glad plume
they have a system for labeling data and other ml infra stuff
real sedge
Ya i kno
I jus don't understand wat makes it better dan turk
Tbh u shouldn't focus too much on multipliers
Wats ev/r?
They do
I just don't kno enuf abt ai to understand
Imo I'd rank
Scale AI >=< Databricks > Plaid
glad plume
Scale AI >=< Databricks > Plaid
does plaid have any specific issues that come to mind?
yeah i'm a junior
real sedge
does plaid have any specific issues that come to mind?
Just from what dom1 told me
*som1
Also I'm scared of Stripe
glad plume
what did the person you know tell you about plaid?
real sedge
what did the person you know tell you about plaid?
I can't say
glad plume
ah okay
proud crag
why
muted summit
What does pengy have 👀
glad plume
i'm really not, just applied to more places probably
glad plume
y'all i'm just here for advice, not to be compared to everyone else lmao
proud crag
i dont get it
muted summit
imo scale ai >>>>>
glad plume
how bad is scale wlb/culture?
wooden shard
how bad is scale wlb/culture?
U got five rings?
wooden shard
that was last year
Did u take it?
glad plume
nope
glad plume
i'd rather not say where i go to school
round spire
i'd rather not say where i go to school
Did u get hrt return offer?
glad plume
yeah
wooden shard
U don’t like quant?
glad plume
i'm not sure yet, i feel like quant vs. tech is a decision i just need to make for myself but within tech i like to hear others' opinions on diff companies
wooden shard
i'm not sure yet, i feel like quant vs. tech is a decision i just need to make f...
How do u feel about robinhood
glad plume
that was also last year so
i actually haven't put anything in the process channel this year
wooden shard
that was also last year so
Do u think it’s still a good company to work at?
round spire
i'm not sure yet, i feel like quant vs. tech is a decision i just need to make f...
Can i chat with u just on how u practiced leetcode / competitive programming / programming in general?
glad plume
Do u think it’s still a good company to work at?
i'm not sure, i think their ipo didn't go as well as they wanted right? / they had some controversy
wooden shard
i'm not sure, i think their ipo didn't go as well as they wanted right? / they h...
I think just the GME stuff fucked them up
glad plume
Can i chat with u just on how u practiced leetcode / competitive programming / p...
sure but i'm pretty busy this week so apologies in advance if i'm slow to reply
wooden shard
If that didn’t happen they would be good no?
glad plume
i don't really know that much about robinhood sorry
muted summit
me too i'd like to ask some questions on advice whenever you're free if thats okay
glad plume
i'll try to get back to y'all in a few days but tbh i don't do much leetcode at all, nor do i do competitive programming
round spire
sure but i'm pretty busy this week so apologies in advance if i'm slow to reply
Sent a friend request. I will just occasionally chat so i wont take ur time.
glad plume
just a lot of interviews so that i don't feel rusty anymore by like mid-oct
wooden shard
just a lot of interviews so that i don't feel rusty anymore by like mid-oct
Do u apply to comapnies for practice first then apply to the ones u want?
pseudo wolf
Did you find out any new info about this or does anybody else know how things have changed after stripe's layoffs -- My recruiter was switched to a new one after the layoffs happen and now they say they want to set up a time to call to give me an update on my candidacy, It's been roughly 3 weeks after my onsites?
glad plume
Do u apply to comapnies for practice first then apply to the ones u want?
no not really, i feel like it's hard to balance that. but if i do like four interviews in a week and i don't care about two of them, i feel like they keep me in practice and also reduce stress for all of them
violet violet
Is amazon waitlisting everyone who interviews?
Cause I have an interview coming up and Im trying to figure out if I have any chance at all
astral dew
Dang I wonder how many people they expect to renege
Sounds like everyone is on their wait-list
sly copper
they're faang+
or faang adjacent, different term same concept
"I work in tech"
is a recruiter
okay jennifer, time for you to log off linkedin
ionic carbon
Should I panice now? https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/11/14/amazon-reportedly-plans-to-lay-off-about-10000-employees-starting-this-week.html
Wdym?
😦
ionic carbon
I see, I shall scream like a little girl now
obsidian sedge
According to my manager at least he's an E10 so he'd def know
sly copper
lmao
ionic carbon
Lmao havent started and interns already have pip
obsidian sedge
Yes they did
my manager told me when i asked him about next years internship
E10s always know
ionic carbon
That is just wonderful
formal gust
According to my manager at least he's an E10 so he'd def know
Source : Trust me bro
lunar zenith
Anyone else in the hiring process for Atlassian Support Engineer internship?
obsidian sedge
Source : Trust me bro
Actually it's source; my E10 manager
torpid pebble
Hey Darth! What is E10?
lunar zenith
Got an email about first round interview and highkey tripping out. It's my first interview in tech
torpid pebble
Please Enlighten Me
white urchin
Hey Darth! What is E10?
supposed to be director i think
obsidian sedge
Hey Darth! What is E10?
E10 DEEZ NUTS
torpid pebble
Oh my Gosh I didnt See that Coming
obsidian sedge
sick oar
ur getting laid off laid
astral dew
E10 DEEZ NUTS
Yo that was actually good 🤣
scenic sluice
ur getting ~~laid off~~ laid
letss gooooo
tardy ridge
anyone know what usually happens if you're a sophomore that applied as a 2024 and you're not actually graduating in 2024
like at the end of the internship, do the managers usually care
scenic sluice
whats the new FAANG now that every FAANG is laying off
where can us hypebeast / simps go
indigo blade
like at the end of the internship, do the managers usually care
No one cares if you get the job lol
obsidian sedge
do u know kung fu
nah but i know suk ineet
tardy ridge
No one cares if you get the job lol
Oh really, so your saying they'll be okay with it and maybe give me return offer again for next year?
indigo blade
Oh really, so your saying they'll be okay with it and maybe give me return offer...
Yeah, plus you can always play "change of plans" card
tardy ridge
Yea that's my plan too 💀
obsidian sedge
Oh really, so your saying they'll be okay with it and maybe give me return offer...
I assume for any job you get you're gonna get some kind of survey or way to tell them what you're looking for in terms of return via your graduation date
There's no point in lying about your grad date
you either get return intern or return full time for most companies
both are great options
tardy ridge
I assume for any job you get you're gonna get some kind of survey or way to tell...
Oh the situation is that I applied with 2024 and got an internship
obsidian sedge
Only reason to lie about grad date is when applying to qualify for jobs you shouldn't
tardy ridge
and I'm asking about what would happen next year
obsidian sedge
well when are you graduating?
tardy ridge
I'm actually graduating in May 2025
unreal flower
Oh the situation is that I applied with 2024 and got an internship
based
scenic sluice
based on what
obsidian sedge
why would you say 2024 though
is it specifically an internship only for rising juniors?
obsidian sedge
boi
indigo blade
Smart move
obsidian sedge
there's more fresh/soph internships than junior ones tho 
oh its c1
fair enough then yeah i know they only hire juniors for some weird reason
indigo blade
there's more fresh/soph internships than junior ones tho <:Wazowski:796080262030...
Not really
obsidian sedge
well i guess i should say
scenic sluice
mans just big brained a c1 as a sophomore
obsidian sedge
there's more targeted directly to fresh/soph than targeted to juniors/seniors explicitly
obsidian sedge
💀
tardy ridge
Idk how tf they picked me
obsidian sedge
😭
obsidian sedge
Just built diff i guess
tardy ridge
No I'm honestly not
Ik it sounds like I'm humble bragging, but trust me idk how tf I got in
when I saw the questionnaire, I was like "huh?"
C1 was the first place I applied to and I accidentally put May 2025 and got so sad that they were only accepting juniors and especially considering so many people got the offer
💀💀💀
Wait dam you got Facebook and Twitter as a sophomore?
Bro you’re insane
Wtf
sinful locust
What ur LinkedIn?
trail ocean
Anyone do the first phone interview for HRT Algo Dev intern
Supposedly probabilities and statistics
ionic carbon
I thought Seattle is better?
Damn
Any tip on how to get internship during this recession?
Well thats a good advice
glad remnant
Any tip on how to get internship during this recession?
there are still positions opening up everyday
just try your luck with everything thats open
ionic carbon
there are still positions opening up everyday
I still dont know how to learn from it, I got rejected nearly everywhere
glad remnant
I still dont know how to learn from it, I got rejected nearly everywhere
same dude
are you international?
ionic carbon
are you international?
Yep
glad remnant
yeah shit's bad for us
I was lucky enough to go till finals for a small company
I'm hoping they give me an offer
ionic carbon
I was lucky enough to go till finals for a small company
Good luck bro 🙂 I hope we will get something this year
glad remnant
Good luck bro 🙂 I hope we will get something this year
same to you too
And on the brighter side, recession might be wrapping up by the time we graduate
hopefully
tulip aspen
we storming the headquarters with kung fu
marble bronze
how long should i wait before emailing recruiter after i had done the oa?
they didn't get back to me and it's been over a week now :(
random tide
works enough to get jobs since the school sounds enough like seattle
i know grads who have gone to fb, google, etc. from there so take that how you will
proud crag
M1 chips so good <:thanospog:766459435441848363>
arm chips bad because nobody usses arm
static spindle
idk i feel like a missing laptop isnt that likely to fly under the radar lmfao
quaint bolt
arm chips bad because nobody usses arm
Use an M1 
proud crag
Use an M1 <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
no support fro half the apps
2015 macbook air is good enoguh
apple makes good products
computer sare powerful
quaint bolt
I used this past summer, never had any issues
Way snappier than laptops I’ve gotten at past internships which were top of the line Intel macs
And more efficient
Yeah
static spindle
literally on the phone with mr mastercard rn
quaint bolt
They’re replacing all the Intel ones
static spindle
the master card
quaint bolt
You’re not waiting for it all day and even when you are having an M1 is better bc it’s more efficient so if you like not working at your desk all the time
It holds battery life better
pulsar robin
is amazon still hiring summer 23?
quaint bolt
I could def tell it was snappier
static spindle
is amazon still hiring summer 23?
probably not tbh
quaint bolt
Also get m1 MacBook Air, that’s what all the interns used at banana
M1 Pro way too heavy to carry around all the time
random tide
M1 Pro way too heavy to carry around all the time
this
pulsar robin
probably not tbh
cuz of the layoffs or smt else?
static spindle
amazon has been waitlisting for the past 3 weeks
so everyone during those 3 weeks has been in the waitlist, and everyone who's in the process rn is also likely getting waitlisted
yeah
pulsar robin
i see
static spindle
so before they get to you @pulsar robin they are gonna have like 6-7 weeks worth of waitlisted people which is a lot
yeah i think so too
you can still apply but its just highly unlikely they'll get to you
pulsar robin
I already applied just wondering what my chances are looking like
gotta pray for a new intern headcount q1 ig
static spindle
not very good rn, unfortunately 😔 but worth a shot
pulsar robin
just out of curiosity have you interviewed with them yet?
pulsar robin
oh so ur set lmfao
hardy patrol
have you just noticed him
static spindle
oh so ur set lmfao
we'll see after this week's layoffs lmfao
if interns survive that then we ballin 
hardy patrol
bro gets chewed out everywhere
heard he was getting dunked on in the amz server for cheating
cant catch a break
has he tried acting bearable he wouldve swerved the csmajors equivalent of the salem witch trials if he made an effort
its been investigated
i dont think they care
bro blocks me but reads all my messages anyway
rent free
didnt someone try reporting him
why would you go through the effort
they dont care if an intern used vim or some shit when they hire en masse
static spindle
why would you go through the effort
tbh that's a very amazon intern thing to do
hell
the main mod guy was posting matt walsh
hardy patrol
who
static spindle
ben shapiro's transphobic son
hardy patrol
i saw the racist tirade in the zon server
that server looks like a wasteland half the time based on my limited exposure
you talking about the ban arc or the cheating saga
half island
i saw the racist tirade in the zon server
wtf
hardy patrol
dont know the details the person who posted the specifics deleted it instantly
but the zon server is on his nuts over "damning evidence"
feral cs majors
static spindle
dont know the details the person who posted the specifics deleted it instantly
they vented fr
hardy patrol
just want to make money and leave the rat race to spend the rest of my days fishing
that doesnt narrow it down any further
instead of practicing lc you cheated 💀 💀 💀
you guys been great i wish i met yall irl
hardy patrol
nah not yet
devout jewel
yea I know
static spindle
alright guys im pressing on the panic button
hardy patrol
interns are fine im pretty sure
hardy patrol
end times are coming
static spindle
20$ says i get rescinded
devout jewel
bro why did I decline apple return offer
static spindle
worst case i get 20$
static spindle
ngl by the sounds of it waitlist is kinda fucked until stocks pop off or smth
past comet
obsidian olive
damn
tulip aspen
@muted summit
static spindle
wait this person who got rescinded was already working
i think
yeah
so not really rescind
hardy patrol
are financial/investment companies safe in a recession
think my backup offer is fine
static spindle
yeah lmfao coinbase was hella fucked
🖕 - signed, coinbase
its ok ill keep manifesting for u krishna das
omg you too??? @feral void
bestiiieee 🙈
tulip aspen
pleae intern
hardy patrol
i never assumed i had a chance at big companies till i surrounded myself w the geek squad in cscd
like purely by association with motivated individuals you get comfortable with setting similar goals to them
goku getting in was the final nail in the coffin
made me realize it wasnt that hard
✊
fr
although id really like to go back to having a regular social life instead of locking myself in a dimly lit room solving coding puzzles like a schizo
yezzir
oblique sonnet
Are there anyone who doesn't receive ebay final interview date after submitting the form?
sweet comet
anyone do final with akuna for python
static spindle
mfw government starts laying off citizens
hardy patrol
i imagine defense company pips come in the form of a lethal injection
sweet comet
hey guys need some advice i got offers
hardy patrol
sorry you didnt meet our performance quota
electric chair is down the hall to the left
big tech caving would kill the "day in the life of a faang engineer" video market
truly the stone age of cs
what if social media just collapsed via a concentrated effort from all engineers
next cscd deep state op
erm nyc is actually underrated dont let the 4k rent fool you
simple as
when this cycles over am i going to see the same squad next year
all of you
obsidian olive
EVERYTHING FULL
near swallow
Everything full
But our inboxes empty
static spindle
same ^
i keep getting this person called brennan delsing tryna hit me up B)
i like playing hard to get though
wheat void
wtf happened with internship pay
i feel like it doubled since last summer 😂
feel scammed
timid wind
how long after u sent ur resume did u get the oa for citadel launch
wheat void
+ tbh its only quants that are popping off
intern pay for optiver has doubled since i did my internship in summer
scammed
midnight sonnet
bro this szn makes me wanna kms
wooden shard
Thoughts on Pinterest or robinhood ?
obsidian sedge
no one comes back from a defense internship
I came back from a part time $15/hour defense internship
obsidian sedge
i like playing hard to get though
Not worth, asked her out and she rejected me after final
fervent flax
intern pay for optiver has doubled since i did my internship in summer
did you go back FT?
hardy patrol
you were the only person affected by the economy its just you
proud crag
its only a recession for venom charlie
i have 8 offers alone from recruiters who dmed me for the first time this morning
wheat void
did you go back FT?
im going back FT in february
everyone already knew from last year lmao. im actually a little salty about the increase. ik i shouldn't be. still am tho
wheat void
this szn terrible or it just me?
i mean it makes sense. all big tech are having tons of layoffs so the incentive to hire interns is probably rather low atm
wheat void
everyone already knew from last year lmao. im actually a little salty about the ...
also let's not forget that the entire reason this server exists is to do exactly that 😂 thats what the process channels are for
mihari try not to mald challenge (impossible)
hahahaa
has Bog still not returned
dafuq
quaint bolt
good, just tryna pass this shitty stats course
got my internships sorted out for next year too
wbu
wheat void
i feel ya prob and stats was my worst subject in uni 
wheat void
got my internships sorted out for next year too
oh shit where u going?
sly copper
i feel ya prob and stats was my worst subject in uni <:PepeHands:748767514716274...
same
but I'm still in uni
wheat void
wbu
currently living like a retired elder. finished uni, starting job in feb so im just chilling and procrastinating on literally everything
wheat void
even tore my pec so cant even go gym atm
quaint bolt
oh shit where u going?
msft winter and most likely goog summer
quaint bolt
Im interviewing with Cit for summer too tho so might go there if that works out
wheat void
oh shit
quaint bolt
ayyyyyyyyyy thats poggg man congrats ❤️
tyty
quaint bolt
currently living like a retired elder. finished uni, starting job in feb so im j...
LOL yeah nah I’d be doing the same, I’m so done with uni I just want to chill, go on vacation for a bit, play games
quaint bolt
would that be ur last year interning?
Yeahh this is it
I’m staying in Canada for FT so I wouldn’t go to any HFT anyways
wheat void
LOL yeah nah I’d be doing the same, I’m so done with uni I just want to chill, g...
its not as fun as i thought it would be
quaint bolt
Maybe a couple years down the line I’ll jump
wheat void
am so demotivated lmao
wheat void
Yeahh this is it
damn everyone's growing up 😦
wheat void
I’m staying in Canada for FT so I wouldn’t go to any HFT anyways
oh icicic. then wouldn't it be smarter taking G and hoping for return?
or is there no G in canada?
wheat void
Maybe a couple years down the line I’ll jump
from where 👀 
quaint bolt
oh icicic. then wouldn't it be smarter taking G and hoping for return?
Yeah see this is what I was thinking
Is it worth it to go to Cit instead esp in this environment
Will have to think on it, bc Cit pay is v fat
wheat void
Will have to think on it, bc Cit pay is v fat
all HFT pay is fucking insane this year
even optiver europe is paying 20k/m for interns
????????
quaint bolt
am so demotivated lmao
I guess it’s only fun for like a month or two time to pick up typical hobbies like rock climbing and woodworking
wheat void
I guess it’s only fun for like a month or two <:PepeHands:748767514716274789> ti...
dude i thought i'd finish so many personal projects
am still on project 1 and cant be fucked to finish it
wheat void
Will have to think on it, bc Cit pay is v fat
that may be true but you'll have to job hunt again for FT instead of just getting a nice return
quaint bolt
even optiver europe is paying 20k/m for interns
Wtf?? Europe?
wheat void
but i mean ur probably rly used to it now so might not be that horrible
wheat void
Wtf?? Europe?
yeh its insane
jane and HRT london also gave out absolutely insane offers this y
quaint bolt
that may be true but you'll have to job hunt again for FT instead of just gettin...
Yeah that’s the issue, I’m gonna hope for msft FT RO at the very least, and maybe try to get Cit Toronto
wheat void
msft over G?
quaint bolt
am still on project 1 and cant be fucked to finish it
LOL mood tbh, this why you join a class
wheat void
or get msft FT so u can do cit internship?
quaint bolt
^
quaint bolt
msft over G?
Def not but goog winter hiring is fucked
wheat void
LOL mood tbh, this why you join a class
been gimming 6d/week just to do smth but tore pec now so i dont even have that left
quaint bolt
So I moved from winter to summer
wheat void
ic that makes sense
yeh sounds like a plan to me man hope it goes well ❤️
cit on CV is goated as fuck as well
quaint bolt
A lot of my friends are in Seattle yes
wheat void
so def not a bad idea
wheat void
buuut @quaint bolt dont forget
quaint bolt
Can’t you do Cit 16 weeks?
wheat void
ik personally from optiver
having previous HFT on ur CV is actually sometimes a minus
not a plus
when u apply to other HFT
to them it signals u didnt get a return offer
fervent flax
when u apply to other HFT
wait really?
quaint bolt
to them it signals u didnt get a return offer
Bruh that’s a rip
fervent flax
to them it signals u didnt get a return offer
i heard it just means you wanna go elsewhere? Don't they just ask you if you got return?
quaint bolt
I guess esp true if I don’t return LOL
quaint bolt
Really? Don’t they allow it for coop?
thorn quartz
anyone else get an update from walmart
wheat void
i heard it just means you wanna go elsewhere? Don't they just ask you if you got...
i mean they dont ask u anything when just looking at CV
hahahah
fervent flax
cause like what if you want to go NYC instead of Chicago?
fervent flax
i mean they dont ask u anything when just looking at CV
oh i c ic
wheat void
im just talking about CV stage
i talked to my manager about it and she said that seeing other HFT is not always a good sign
quaint bolt
Interesting
wheat void
often it means they didnt get return and try another HFT
fervent flax
i talked to my manager about it and she said that seeing other HFT is not always...
interesting
quaint bolt
Well if I don’t go to a HFT FT, the next time I’ll be back is when I’m a senior swe so it shouldn’t matter
Oh and you asked where
Prolly Jump, HRT or JS
fervent flax
often it means they didnt get return and try another HFT
wouldn't they still rather interview someone who worked at another HFT vs someone who has never?
wheat void
Well if I don’t go to a HFT FT, the next time I’ll be back is when I’m a senior ...
yeah thats totally fine
wheat void
wouldn't they still rather interview someone who worked at another HFT vs someon...
i dont know that much detail. we had a couple interns that where Ex-HFT interns as well. so it cant be that bad. that's just what manger told me when i asked once
fervent flax
ah i see
understandable
cause I guess I picked my internship thinking it would help FT 😥 , but hearing that just gives second doubts lol
wheat void
cause I guess I picked my internship thinking it would help FT 😥 , but hearing ...
i mean thats just the opinion of one manager at one company
doesnt have to be a globally shared opinion
i mean it does make sense
fervent flax
If Cit doesn’t do 16-weeks it really isn’t worth it for me to do Cit over goog
does cit not extend into fall?
or how long is cit in fall?
wheat void
many of these ex-HFt interns ended up not getting a return offer
quaint bolt
I just moved my coop schedule from fall to summer
fervent flax
I just moved my coop schedule from fall to summer
oh i gotchu
wheat void
@quaint bolt have u tried HRT?
fervent flax
I just moved my coop schedule from fall to summer
just curious. how many coops are you required to do to graduate at waterloo?
wheat void
pay is similar, sometimes even higher and has much better WLB
fervent flax
<@426054830562213889> have u tried HRT?
problem is getting into HRT 😂
wheat void
yeh that's why im asking if he applied hahaha
friend of mine is there and he said its pretty chill
since when does discord have fucking forum posts. never seen that lmao.
quaint bolt
<@426054830562213889> have u tried HRT?
I have not
wheat void
just try both
quaint bolt
Should help
wheat void
wagon are u.... the 🐐
proud crag
<@426054830562213889> have u tried HRT?
that sounds irreversible, not a decision to make on a whim
wheat void
farming offers like its farmwille
wheat void
that sounds irreversible, not a decision to make on a whim
wat?
proud crag
blog post advertiser says competing offers got her a hrt reply @quaint bolt
wheat void
its his last year of doing internships, might as well
quaint bolt
blog post advertiser says competing offers got her a hrt reply <@426054830562213...
Yeah that was the plan
Banana man
wheat void
go get it ❤️
quaint bolt
Cit still ends up being way more no? Than goog? Even with it being 11 weeks
quaint bolt
go get it ❤️
Goog is 14-weeks max
Dyk Cit base intern pay
Like w/o competing JS/HRT
I c
Welp don’t wanna count my eggs already so
wheat void
feel like thats almost low
that's what optiver pays in europe
US notoriously pays more
i feel like 50k min for cit
yeh but HFT is diff
quaint bolt
Either eu caught up or eu internships are longer?
wheat void
Either eu caught up or eu internships are longer?
na eu is 8 weeks
optiver us paying 28k/m
quaint bolt
Tru
wheat void
also it says cit is paying 20k/m + 10k signon
is IMC really outpaying cit
by 10k?
thats ridiculous
imo i'd say 50k is what u can expect for internship
yeh intern pay is insane atm for HFT
like where does this end?
will it be 40k next year or what 
double until u get 100k/m for internship 😎 i'll be intern for life
imo only if u have counter offers
jump just matches
quaint bolt
code some games
proud crag
swear the ideal life is to get quant internship and be a phd student till 35
wheat void
if u have no counter offers their pay is usually lower from what i heard
proud crag
100k yearly salary and get to be a phd student
quaint bolt
jump dev culture >>>
quaint bolt
it's fully automated no?
wheat void
i think they have both
earnest hatch
swear the ideal life is to get quant internship and be a phd student till 35
That is no life
wheat void
yeh i heard they have good culture
proud crag
sorry correction
wheat void
imo if u have no counter offers and didnt have an insane interview, ur offer is generally lower than the rest
proud crag
the ideal life is 10 leetcodes a day and make your living off of tutoring ppl for intert
wheat void
but if u have counter offer and good interview they basically pay whatever
but also means that pay VARIES greatly even on same level
also c++ code. no ocaml
quaint bolt
@amber obsidian when you flying to bellevue btw
quaint bolt
also c++ code. no ocaml
the functional programming simps will lynch you
wheat void
had to write a compiler in ocaml. its..... idk not my cup of tea
dont enjoy it very much. not as horrible as haskell tho
but i also hate c++ so 🤷♂️
c++
some python, some c#. whatever tool is best for its job
but mainly its all c++
HFT in java 
wat
quaint bolt
Okay why are all the HFTs C++ simps, if Java fast enough for dynamodb it should be fast enough for HFT
wheat void
how can they be latency kings in java
wheat void
Okay why are all the HFTs C++ simps, if Java fast enough for dynamodb it should ...
latency and jitter is king in HFT
java introduces both
quaint bolt
2sigma uses Java too
quaint bolt
latency and jitter is king in HFT
Hmmm I guess it’s not just speed then interesting
wheat void
seems like they do both
wheat void
no x86 lite
had a compiler design course, where we wrote a compiler for a fictional lang called "oat". like a C equivalent
but compiling down to x86 lite
rather basic but was fun
oke as i expected
IMC uses c++ for their actual hot loop, low latency trading
java code is just the computations etc that then feed the rules for the trading software
wheat void
yes, thats why i didnt trust the java call
proud crag
or i guess c competes but it takes longer to write (pls tell me if this is inaccurate)
wheat void
dont think there's a difference in speed between c and c++ once it actually runs
fervent flax
dont most low latency places do cpp
2s laughs in java
wheat void
also u dont use any of the features in c++ that add latency
proud crag
is 2s hft
wheat void
like virtual functions and whatnot
proud crag
i thot it was normie hedge fund
fervent flax
oh true
wheat void
i dont wanna live in the US
fervent flax
its a hedge fun
wheat void
im from switzerland, going to amsterdam for optiver tho
proud crag
all the stuff u see on reddit shitting on america is overstated UNLESS u compare it to netherlands or Scandinavia
then its all true
so ur choice is valid
wheat void
or switzerland for that matter. i love living here
i lived in SF for a month, and did multiple tours of the US
proud crag
never been
wheat void
its nice to visit, i'd never wanna live there tho
proud crag
cant speak on swizerland
wheat void
its quite nice u should give it a visit 😄
proud crag
what shud i do there
also do they habe cheap hostels cuz thats all i live for now
beign able to survive in another country on like 25 bucks a day
proud crag
laughs in norway
wheat void
im sure u can find smth affordable tho. also idk. it has rly nice nature and some nice cities
zurich was apparently more expensive than NY in 2020
or smth like that i saw it on a list once idk how true that is tho
wheat void
not sure if that'll be worth it tho
idk if i travel i wanna be relaxed. i'd rather safe up and spend a lil more
but thats just me
wheat void
i just love the idea of travelling on budget eben if i can afford
thats fair enough
im the opposite i travel expensive even if i cant afford it
yours is probably smarter than mine hahaha
proud crag
also chec dm
gloomy plover
Wtf I submitted the gap OA and they denied me cause I didn’t submit
Who should I contact at gap
earnest hatch
Wtf I submitted the gap OA and they denied me cause I didn’t submit
Search up Gap assessment in your email and someone's email should be in there as a point of contact
gloomy plover
Gotcha
rapid swan
did anyone get the ddog beta oa
clever grail
did anyone get the ddog beta oa
beta
earnest hatch
It means you're a guinea pig for their new OA
sterile temple
If I got rejected for atlassian final new grad 😩 could I ask my recruiter to go through the intern process as I am considering staying an extra year for a MS CS
earnest hatch
If I got rejected for atlassian final new grad 😩 could I ask my recruiter to go...
Probably not but you can try asking
kind lagoon
yea my friends business offer got yoinked
royal berry
are they rescinding intern offers now?
sick oar
yup
hallow scroll
wtf is it lol is it a stable org
sick oar
you're probably in wwco professional services, they have a lot of customer engineering teams, so you'd be working on creating custom products/features for specific AWS customers
yeah it's definitely stable
also chill bc it's on the sales side
i work very closely with that org and the wlb seems pretty good honestly
sand pendant
doesn't aws usually have a specific swe intern application?
sick oar
people kinda just do the work when they feel like it
its not a strict 9-5 tho slack/email hours are 9-5
hallow scroll
you're probably in wwco professional services, they have a lot of customer engin...
Interesting, I think it was aws wwco partner systems or something
But nice yeah doesn’t sound bad hopefully it’s chill
sick oar
Interesting, I think it was aws wwco partner systems or something
hmm gimme two secs
hallow scroll
doesn't aws usually have a specific swe intern application?
Yeah but Amazon offers can get placed into aws
sand pendant
Yeah but Amazon offers can get placed into aws
did the aws swe intern applications already open up and I missed it?
cuz I can't find it rn
sick oar
@hallow scroll it's the AWS Partner Marketplace
it should be chill honestly you still roll up in the sales org which is actually good because it's focused on customer delivery not like... arbitrary deadlines
i doubt you'll be working more than 30h/week
nah hes fr
i saw some rescinds earlier today for amazon
sick oar
nah NG
obsidian sedge
Trolling again
sick oar
anyone assigned to amazon books/goodreads
sick oar
Trolling again
nah hes fr
stone echo
oh new grad got ti
obsidian sedge
Said the same thing yesterday and was trolling tho
It can be, but doesn’t have to be
hallow scroll
it should be chill honestly you still roll up in the sales org which is actually...
Oh interesting I just looked it up tysm sounds nice actually
sick oar
Said the same thing yesterday and was trolling tho
yeah but I am backing him up so even if he was trolling he is spitting facts
stone echo
hopefully stripe doesn't rescind intern offers lol
obsidian sedge
Applying through amazon normal can get placed in aws, aws also has its own pipeline for certain roles
sick oar
Oh interesting I just looked it up tysm sounds nice actually
ye you'll be fine, just know you'll probably be in a remote team w a remote manager
which works well bc they dont gaf if ur placed in a specific place
obsidian sedge
yeah but I am backing him up so even if he was trolling he is spitting facts
Proof?
Have u seen anyone have the email
sick oar
if u wanna do fte u could just take nyc pay and go to idk oklahoma
hallow scroll
ye you'll be fine, just know you'll probably be in a remote team w a remote mana...
This is actually perfect lol I’m nyc but I wanna work out of state to save on rent
sick oar
Have u seen anyone have the email
i saw some linkedin posts for rescinded NG SDE
hallow scroll
Less commute days is fine by me
sick oar
Goodreads and Amazon Books
sick oar
Less commute days is fine by me
chances are you can choose when to go in
which office are you in
obsidian sedge
Oh ur going to zon juster?
hallow scroll
Oh ur going to zon juster?
Yes
hallow scroll
chances are you can choose when to go in
Pog alright ty for the info
hallow scroll
Did you find out team yet?
Aws wwco partner systems it was what me and vp product were talking about
Yeah
sick oar
yeah its safe
obsidian sedge
I think probably devices would be the only real scary one
obsidian sedge
For rescinding
sick oar
even after hiring freeze
hallow scroll
sick oar
because theyre pushing hard to continue getting 50% YoY
obsidian sedge
Is AWS as a whole relatively safe or only certain parts of it
sick oar
i'd say certain services are probably less safe
obsidian sedge
I’m pretty sure most of AWS will be fine
sick oar
or internal tools teams
hallow scroll
Is sales a big source of revenue for them
sick oar
but most is fine
sick oar
Is sales a big source of revenue for them
yeah
obsidian sedge
Yeah sales is big
hallow scroll
Pog
coarse compass
anyone complete first round interview w/ citadel launch ?
sick oar
the customers in the org I work with generate 50% of AWS revenue
coarse compass
i have mine soon and want to know about the process
sick oar
the customers in the org I work with generate 50% of AWS revenue
and it's a team 3k? maybe
it's relatively small compared to the rest of AWS
but it's a massive income generator
ProServ supports all the infrastructure that's not like... services
hallow scroll
Sounds pretty safe from trimming workforce then
sick oar
so partner network, certifications, internal tools, etc
you're on the partner network, which i'd say is basically as critical as can be
yeah
and it should be chill as long as you have a good manager
everyone i've met adjacent is super cool n nice
obsidian sedge
From what I’ve heard/seen and from what my mentor told me at zon
The more critical the team, the better the WLB/less stressful the work is
sick oar
The more critical the team, the better the WLB/less stressful the work is
Honestly... yeah
obsidian sedge
So the most highly established and crucial teams won’t be doing those 60hr/week crazy shit
halcyon wedge
I'd take g but I lean a lot more towards tech
sick oar
If you're in a position that's business critical / running a whole org of 1000 people... your job will be a good 40-45h a week
But not more
They don't wanna kill you
EC2 i've heard is one of the more chill teams in AWS
just has on call
halcyon wedge
As everyone already said at some point on this server, finance "prestige" is a bubble
halcyon wedge
Everyone knows google, everyone in this server knows 2s
sick oar
how was it
halcyon wedge
Big difference
obsidian sedge
People in my team were putting out PRs and shit at like 5 am
Or midnight sometimes
sick oar
oof
obsidian sedge
Pretty wild
obsidian sedge
It was good tbh, as an intern at least it was fine
obsidian sedge
Nah I doubt it bc they’d be online all day
And still be pushing PRs super late or super early
obsidian sedge
There were 2 big deadlines/releases during this summer
sick oar
sales side (customer delivery engineering) is chill af
obsidian sedge
One was the week after my internship ended tho
sick oar
because its just customer happiness
obsidian sedge
Right
Interesting
The team seemed pretty happy tho no one seemed overly stressed and overworked from what I could tell at least
Who knows though
The team was just about a year old by the end of the summer so still pretty new
Nah lol
EKS is elastic kubernetes services
Basically aws solution to kubernetes lol
There’s a few different sub teams under EKS as well
rancid flume
EKS is elastic kubernetes services
wait i was on eks too, did you have an offsite in seattle?
obsidian sedge
Yes I did
rancid flume
were you demoing there
obsidian sedge
Yes
obsidian sedge
I was the last presentation lmfao