#2023_summer
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since if u keep k as real dist then u have floats
I’d say for most ML jobs you apply to, there will be a PhD with papers in top conference(s)
k is only integer if its kept as squared

there arent that many PHDs at the top
You don’t have to be at the top to publish at top conferences
ML engineer is very doable as bachelors
my school only has like 15-20 acceptances/year
ML researcher is very hard
K is defined to be the number of buckets
The ratio of degrees of applicants is still very different than SWE internships and jobs
which is the upper bound on the values squares

I feel like it’s just easier to apply to SWE jobs and try to get matched to a ML team
That's what I'm doing
And it's worked for me
What company?
Or companies
Roblox and Bloomberg
with CS u have a bunch of people applying, bootcampers, self-learners, students,etc
what is your information
from what ive heard amazon shit doesnt hit the fan till 2023
u need a degree for ME/AE
so u gotta get hired before 2023, not after 2022
bruh i wonder how many spots there are for amazon intern this year then
also AE requires citizenship
this guy says theres none at all
everything in aerospace is defense
but it could be for ft
i think its ft
a few things don't require
ive heard too much conflicting info tbh
im just gonna try to do well in my interviews if i get them
What year are you?
like under 100 prolly
Or were you when you got into each experience
still havent gotten half the neetcode patterns
im a one trick for DP
cant do shit if it isnt dp
U taken algos yet?
Damn so that’s why I got rejected from viasat
yes thats where i learned dp
Algos got me through dp hard level
I’m Russian so makes sense
its gotta be 5ish per pattern imo
Sophomore
russia is life on hard mode

Yes
Nah prob like yemen
Sliding window is good, tries u won't see
theres a reason you see a lot of advertisements or actors speaking broken english with a russian accent. its because they have shit standard of liing and u can hire them super cheap
i dont trust better help because of that
Actually even tries just do a couple qs
a trie is a tree
whats the benefit of a trie tho
its just a way to organize data
compared to a binary search tree
Most cases for tries r strings
I’m thinking of just marrying my girlfriend for a green card if nothing goes to plan
Damn u have a green card offer?
u can sort by the alphabetical order of words in a BST or use prefixes for a trie right? and theyre both logN time?
you can sort the order of words
but you cant get info about the number of words with a prefix
or anything like that
Most valuable offer fr
oh i see makes sense thanks mr colin
tell them if you waitlist me i will shit my pants
my brain cant go past the lowest common denominator use case (finding an item in logN time)
come up with a story for each of them
bias for action
If I could take a year off to interview prep, do ML courses and projects, it would be amazing, but not with the immigration laws here
be prepared for follow up quetsions on the details of the story
Yeah just keep applying
according to my amazon offer friend as long as you are a human being u will pass the LP OA (knowing him, this means you are generally nice to hang around with but also wont tolerate crazy bullshit requests from customers)
International makes it touher so just grind until u get an offer
I hope the Samsung ml goes through because bc it’s the only OA I have rn
And Roblox I forgot
But I’m bad at LC
lx?
Sorry
leet xor
u cant be bad at lc
lc can only be bad at you
That’s a good outlook
leetcode but all the problems are bit hacking
The Samsung OA is a ML Knowledge one so I’m hopeful for that at least
bitwise is fun tho
x&~x
what does this do?
How hard are codesignal Roblox oa’s?
returns 0
is roblox GCA or not? i have a GCA score, do i have to do another one for roblox
noooo
what is ~x?
i thought it was an and with a not
What’s gca
what is ~x mean
ohhhh
complement
i see that makes sense
so what is x&~x?
idk how 2s complement works tho
im a freshman
ok learning time
nope !
2s complement means flip all the bits then add 1 to the result
its how virtually every computer handles negative nums
it makes subtraction easy cuz u just add x and ~x
so x&~x returns 0 no?
and if u do 2s complement twice you get original num
wait yeah i think so , i originally meant x&-x
thats what i said 😭
myb
x&-x is the cool one tho

thats the real puzzle
wtf
i did twos complement long time ago
is 2 days even enough
Congrats!
i had an interview already but it's just them going over my resume n stuff
did any1 do the robinhood karat?
they just asked me if i knew ML stuff, but didnt ask any coding stuff
i see, interesante
when i say i like bitwise, i like xor

this problem was really fun @proud crag try it out
i just hate bitwise notation
are u applying to SWE positions too
or only ML
citadel accepts freshmen swe's?
probably
"because youre not a human" is what he said
personally i think hes giving humanity too much credit
i wouldnt slack off
what is amazon lps
:orz:
Yes, some
Mainly ones at companies where a ml team is likely
im not joking
why u want to do ML though

What company?
equifax
but they finished hiring
It’s what I enjoy most and have most experience in
Plus TC

Damn☹️
are u gunna do grad school
I hope not
I have BS/MS on my resume because I’m taking a lot of grad classes for ai but I probably won’t stay to finish an MS
idk i dont think ML opportunities are that great if u require sponsership
i havent really found that many ML internships to apply to
Yeah I feel like marriage is genuinely the best option
but i guess im being picky
The equifax interview would’ve been perfect for me bc I’m really bad at leetcode questions
Any good ml internships that you found? @ashen matrix
That are still hiring
Transcript and references 💀 💀
transcripts are required if ur a student
reference is if they use hireright or something
Transcripts and references is crazy
What other companies have you gotten that asked
The only place where I encountered references is Microsoft Undergraduate Research
my last internship required both
Okay
but it was dod i guess
They require 2- 3 recommendations from professors
That makes sense
anyone know if amazon deadlines are 11:59pm on the day of
they told me they needed transcripts to verify ur a student and over 3.0 gpa
and reference was cause some places use hireright
they just use it to check if u worked there or not
adobe just opened a few days ago for data science engineer
idk i applied to most companies in florida, some in atlanta
oracle, nextera
lots of dod in tampa area
idk wat u mean by "good" though
pay prob isnt as high as big tech, but its still an internship
can I move my adobe offer to a figma offer?

no
well sort of
i think moving around alphabet is easier internally but it's not easy
yea
getting the interview is probably easier

initials AS?

Anyone have tiktok OA this week?
I do!
I have a one application under process and still got another OA 😦
i got yield protected by jane street 😔
Does Palantir call to reject? I emailed my recruiter for an update and she asked to schedule time this week. Not sure if this means anything because I had to reach out
they thought i was too good to want to go work for them so they rejected me to keep their acceptance rate low
what is [:3]
i see
CONGRATS
NOOOOO
palo alto pay should be good
COLIN ISNT GOING TO SEATTLE
is the highest

i think portal change always means offer
COLIN DAVIS AMAZON 2023 PULLED THROUGH
yes
😔
lmfao
i like it cause its near the bay and my family is from teh bay
BIGGEST W OF ALL TIME... AND W LOCATION TOO
lmaooo nice
ALL THE GRINDING PAID OFF
Anyone got Amazon austin?
is he super cracked
yea i can visit
i will meet colin irl now
: )
I’m from tx
sill under review 
wait yea
And I made sure I don’t get Austin
san mateo is close right
Roblox x Colin Davis collab
yes
Super egg drop came in clutch I think
all ur fckn grinding paid off
almsot didnt code the right answer cause i overthought it xd
palo alto is super nice!
Congrats colinnnnn
I live there
Bro got the DUb
yeah i mean u also want to sleep right?
ngl i dont really care about location as long as its not virginia or sometihng
east coast is cool
80% of this server is Seattle or cali
Halloween present too
nyc > sf > seattle
nyc >>> sf > seattle*
I’m telling jeff
Palo Alto is sleeper but you can take the 1 hour Caltrain to sf
yea
10k/month 
Hahaha
Colin villain arc
yea yes lmfao
meatballs and cinnamon rolls every day
you can go to Home Depot as well

do return offers correlate to where you interned?
Congrats bro
ok
thanks dog
issue is amazon office is on the other side of 101 so walking is annoying
Colin are you a junior
yes
he’s a high school junior
I think you might be able to request a change, especially if you’re returning
Lmao
East Palo Alto is sketchy af
If I get walmart do I take 
jimmy g >
But the Palo Alto office is nice
Or at%t
Cap
i feel like because im still under review after 2 waves of acceptances im probably rejected at this point
I think if you request a change, you’re not guaranteed to get an offer
wack, I wouldn’t expect that from amazon
~100
bc it is
yeah I think the typical process is you reject return offer, they send survey, you say the reason is bc of location and hope they accommodate you
38 intern apps for me
also good but not as richy
beast
that's nothing lmfao
that’s why
i've got 3 phones so far so 
you’re a beast
i gotta keep applying

only 90?
100+
no offers yet
i had zon this summer
no
i only had zon
my resume has 2 internships, a part time local defense company for like 7 months and then zon for the summer
Including auto ones, I've gottan OAs from IMC, Jp Morgan, Roblox, Salesforce, Cisco, and Paypal. Got a phone with Verint, UKG, and salesforce
no RO from amazon
Keep applying
long story lol

if those are the only OAs u need to apply more
I still hope for interview from another company
oh
kind of a bullshit performance reasons imo
kinda drama too
he was evaluating me as a return intern all summer
so i didn't rly get negative feedback all summer until we started discussing locations and stuff towards the end
the last 2 weeks
i mean i did the grad date survey and said im not so like, that's where he gets his info
i didn't know he had me as return intern until the last 2 weeks
when we started talking about return offer
someone just dmed me to ask about draftkings interview process after i said this
I just assumed that since my application had me as a summer 2023 grad and the survey i filled was within the return full time window
so i have no idea why he was evaluating me as intern
yes
he just didn't give me much negative feedback because my performance was good enough for a return intern offer
so i got complacent
😐😐😐😐😐
if i get the official offer and everything im gonna do everything in my power to get a RO
the last 1:1 he basically implied that my performance would've been okay for a return intern but bar raised me for return full time
did ur portal not change
i’m so confused
it did
Right
but no offer letter
oh ok good
and ask for feedback
what does this mean
what does an SWE do in ads 
30-40
You make better ad pipelines
Also ML maybe
Search + recommendations
At least colin have CA
Alright time to spam a bunch of intern apps
Im in Az
ads is about how can I increase the number of clicks by 0.1%

arizona is the coolest state after california and alaska
@jaunty cove bay area amz return is $200k+ lol
how long does it take for cockroach labs to follow up after phone screen?
imo
yea fire
are housing stipends usually pre tax or is it dependent on company
idk why people wouldnt want palo alto offefr
depends
they retain swe by paying them a bunch
damn, I had mines last wed 😦
Keep in mind
I don’t think 55 is out of the ordinary for Cit lol
Well he told me he thought my technical skills needed work if i was going to be full time. He said its okay as an intern but if im gonna be full time, i needed to be better with the technology they use (all tech i've never used before the summer so not much i coulda done about being a newbie)
People process information differently
Sometimes people could do jobs it takes other people half the time
who the fuck knows honestly
i asked him and he dodged it with a vague answer about just general knowledge and familiarity with the product and technology we use
people thinking about jumping to cit are basically always told not to do it 
that was the last day
LOL
that was his reasoning for why i didn't get return
usually multiple*
he also mentioned communication skills, which i mean i guess that's fair
I'm generally a timid and introverted person and that reflects in my work, i rarely reached out outside of my team for help
nah bruh 💀💀💀
within the same org
banana man
well my project had ties to another team in the org
i am currently employed by amazon web services and i work 10 hours a week max on full time employment @jaunty cove
that feedback i can understand
but i wish he said that to me throughout the internship lol that final meeting was the first time i heard it
Def recommend
bruh what
i thought u were an intern
He is
You have to as part of onboarding
Oh
i might try to get my team to keep me as a contractor tbh
No
but youre also employed ft by amazon
deliverable work + contract = max pay
for onboarding you do a 1:1 with your manager, mentor, onboarding buddy, PM, and a random member of your team who recently joined
i actually never did the 1:1 with the pm lmfao
interns are ft lol
summer + fall so far
But I used to sit around a sister team’s area bc they had space for all of my friends
During our offsite in seattle that was the first time we met
do not say 121
oh yeah i didn't make any friends during the summer
even for the time that i was in office
i didn't talk to anyone 💀
anything with a higher offer
im anxious and antisocial lmfao
Also our org was p tight knit too which is nice
I wouldn’t reach out to team in same org tho
That’s kinda weird champ
Reach out to other orgs
ik someone that got OMC 500k
Lol WTF
yes
Is it bc you want to switch to that team
Or just to get to know the team
If it’s the latter it’s p obvious why not
If not it’s fine
me 2
yeah only js, hrt without competing offers irc. but isn't the cit standard offer is 375 though?
i think that might be noticed by a manager
If you get stuck, and if no one on your team can answer
Then reach out to other team
jane street new grad
Yeah all other interns from diff orgs etc
I got rejected after final for citadel
@sick oar can i ask you questions about how to maximize getting a return offer?
Well 2 others were from the same org
oof
did any of yall do the robinhood OA
are you in Chicago in the summer
I had my ass clapped and handed back to me
somehow many ppl on here got the karat tho? Am I just stupid or did everyone just find it easy
There’s like 12 people I’d have to go thru LOL just from intern gc meetups in the beginning
We’d also in the beginning take over a conf room and work from there and slowly some more people showed up there
its a GCA but bruh the output didnt even make sense
And then once we were at a decent size we did our own thing
shore
i think ultimately just communicate w ur boss and make sure nothint is negatively said about you lmaooo
I think new grad was around 160/80/80 in the past but is probably a bit higher now. Intern pay is great so I’m not complaining for now lol
okay fair
maybe i can learn about the team beforehand and learn about the tech stack?
You don’t need to
wlb and dev culture seems pretty good from talking to engineers
I’ve done none of that ever and I’ve never not gotten an RO
unfortunately there’s not much info on them online
ya rip maybe next yr
Intern
Hey Colin are u junior?
yes but im a math major remember so i have less experince actually developing software
so im not as familiar with as many things
anyone done Optive OA yet
Yes
they expect you to one in with zero knowledge don’t worry
As long as you can use git you’re good
thats fair but i do want to do everything possible to maximize my chances here
i like to overprepare
Bruh everyone is junior :((
The amazon bootcamp is p nice too
isnt tht only for the APP program or something
getting a return offer
amazon return offer is pretty manager dependent I’ve heard
so don’t get a bad manager
did you get the offer colin
Did u have a referral for zon
Yes
oh shit nice
No in fact all i hear is people with referall got scrweed by the application system
You’re in the server right? There’s a nice doc pinned there somewhere just read it
Nah
😮
this but unironically
Okay join the amazon server then
😎
I can confirm the referral caused the ducking website to lose my application twice in a row
no lol
Just don’t ask dumb qs, communicate with your manager and mentor well and you’re good
maybe only for bay area
Also for nyc
Probably negotiate 200 plus
what am i gonna be negotiating with
Okay
ng
Where you ending up
im having trouble searching the chat history for people posting the invite link
does nayone have it?
🤔
Ask sushi
How I suppose to manage my life in my sophomore year 
did any1 get the robinhood karat? If so, what types of questions were asked on it?
Also before asking, try what you know and look stuff up yourself and if you come up blank then ask
Yea thats probably a core skill to being a developer
knowing what to google
Highest salary
Guys do i still have hope from Amazon
And also, someone prolly did what you’re tryna do so just look it up on the internal codebase and
yoink
I applied back in August
Do u have final yet ?
cit swe -> tower qr -> phd at cmu -> esteemed professor
and still haven;t gotten teh OA

no lol 😭
Tbh its depend

Amz oa is RNG tbh
sage kinda helped no 
100%
this is your prof right
Post it in resume my friend
this is the best linkedin profile possible
Anyone got mathworks edg intern reject
amazon kids either being indifferent towards their offer or starting their coconut arc
Nah no one as bad as coconut nowadays
One of my prof have MIT undergrad then SWE MSft then back to PhD unc
💀
Bc the economy fucked
Lol
Wtf
Wdym
coconut funny asf tho dude threatened to sue amazon if they didnt give him his pref location
You can just get FT RO, work there for a bit and then transfer
has anyone gotten walmart phone scheduled yet?
Isnt coconut a clown ?
clowns are funny
i mean at some point, u don't really need money
halloween pain
most professors get paid well (at top schools)
no kids suck for existing
like kids outside or
but its a good starting point
then theres me, the desperate MF even applying to nebraska
yes but my lifestyle is very affordable
its cali so yea itll cost an arm and a leg
eat bulk food from costco and type on discord
same
i even bought those portable mattresses
living like that goblin in harry potters closet
im ready to sleep on the floor
Costco hotdog
i already live in santa barbara area which is expensive af
im in nyc i feel that
mfw gas prices hit 7.01 / gallon
furniture who?
does figma call to reject?
you seen the pic
bro i had a sleeping mat in my locker and i slept in a study room at my uni for a few days
cuz i live off campus on internship rn
i been through it ALL
somewhere up there
and them MFs were still walking around campus at 2am in the morning
how the fuck you supposed to find a place to rent for 2 months
kinda scary ngl
travel
acc pain
if you want to have kids you save
backpain
people keep dming me about my hrt offer 
- emotional pain
dang u go girl
woah you got hrt offer and youre a women?
😹
i do
ok we are 4 levels of trolling deep
i have to spin my dreidel to see if im dreaming
soon
to both
wait does that mean he also found a gf once he accepted the offer
i thought theyre a girl
i choose to accept whichever reality where i get msft as the real one
im level 1 iq
oh thats not a dreidel
wait same
im being antisemitic
bro said dreidel
it never stops spinning
have u watched inception?
indeed
i wonder if parler hires software interns
villain arc incoming?
lebron need me
resume reject if you dont go to BYU
I'd hit more 3s than russ
i think i know u
Mlh?
nvm wrong person

i know u now tho 
nba intern sounds pretty cool
$10/hr but 50% off NBA tickets up to a $1000 discount total
hey yall i got a verbal offer for expedia sde intern in seattle but then they called me a couple days later and said they're rescinding the offer cuz i'm international and they can't work out the visa stuff. I think its total bs but honestly im too sad rn if anyone has some advice that'd be a massive help
Common shitpedia L
Bro just chill go play video games or something you’ll be fine


super fracker
no way
that sucks
did they know about your sponsorship status before the offer too?
Yeah I answered no to the work authorization question in the initial application so idk how they messed it up
@vapid pecan
do u know that verbal offer mean nothing ?
🤨
I mean many ppl said that
before getting official letter verbal can be easily rescind ?
wait u fake it ?
nah
im not allowed to play games anyway + boring
i like ml/ai and programming more
i have until june essentially to get cracked at ml/ai
so i can accept a job offer from my friend
No like I told them I don’t have work authorization and need help obtaining it
everything can be rescinded, it just sucks either way. they obviously now know that the verbal offer didn't mean much
Discord thx for the block feature and saving me spam
yeah I know
yeah I understand that verbal offer means nothing but still feel rly bad
bruh
but when u fill the application u said no need sponsor ?
even if it was written it could have been rescinded no?
everything can be rescind

but verbal easier
no i said that i do need sponsor
on the bright side, atleast they rescinded now and not after recruting was over
yeah i emailed them abt it but guess ill just have to keep my head down and grind harder
wait wait
why do u have to email them ?
u have fill the application when start
that u need sponsor ?
AWWw
LMAOOOOO
In my application i said i needed sponsor and i went thru all the interview rounds and then they said congrats u got it but then they called me and said sry nvm
so im emailing them to follow up and ask what exactly the issue is since the person on the phone didnt give me a specific reason
so they are suck
exactly
did you have a recruiter phoen screen in your interviews?
anyone got ideas on what LC questions to study for msft exxplore (freshman)
guys how much payment should i ask for a long term project
Are companies allowed to ask you compensation details of other companies
u got interview for MS explore ?
final interview noww but yeah
amazon recruiter reached out to me wanting to hire me as a full-time engineer... I was a student so I asked for internship. he told me to go apply
There’s a GitHub
I applied. GHOSTED
Gl
Search on goog
Msft explore is more qs like “design a toaster for space”
And very very basic lc easies
already have it but done w those
2.5
800+ enough for any company, try to aim for that
u can get like 750 with 2.5
what
.5 being half the tc's
It’s for freshmen
I never passed Microsoft explore resume screen 😔
rip homie
Well they resume screen after so I think 700s is enough to get to that
u should grind lc more then 800s will follow patterns u see
unless i got really lucky all 4 codesignals i did were reasonable q4s
Is neetcode good for patterns?
yea for sure
python has corrupted my brain
i forgot how actual coding works
too many layers of abstraction lmao
well i should add leetcode to that too
i mainly do shit in python so oh well
fr bro frrrr
robinhood rejected me in a day
still doesnt beat ebay, 4 hours
whats the fastest rejection you guys have gotten
no resume
i didnt apply
100% final -> offer rate 
i dont have fidelity offer
Amazon the last company to rescind imo
its like an ill defined waitlist
i hvent seen anyone get "waitlisted" and then get rejected
Yeah that’s before you get interview no?
its after
u'll get the offer letter tmr around 12pm
No my final -> offer rate this szn
i got mine last week at like 12:30pm
citadel rejected me instantly for having winter 2023 grad date
u mean no resume screen?
well thats auto though
same except 2 finals 💀
feel bad for people who have been waiting like 3+ weeks post final for some companies
maybe its copium but i dont really think amazon would rescind offers even in this economic climate
the fact that theyre slowing down hiring yet still giving out offers means theyre aware of the situation
there was another wave like last week right
yea
Bro ur fine Amazon rescinds we’d all be fucked
yeah amazon is safe
they are slowing down for sure
not hiring as many
but still a decent amount
They’re slowing down in response to the economy
maybe they hired too many too early, so they gotta waitlist in response
So they don’t have to rescind offers
yeah
Yeah c1 and Amazon hired a lot early
this is what i want to believe
ik people that got final scheduling and never got an interview
and i will choose to believe it
really fucked up
colin are you gonna accept it tmr
i accepted mine bc i was scared of the freeze thing ngl
@jaunty cove did u get cap 1?
but i just get paranoid at shit like that tbh 
What location?
is 0.3% equity good
oh shit nice
no
i just accepted an offer for a startup
its less than 0.4% and more than 0.2%
if i stay with them for a month itll increase to 1%
If that startup is worth a billion dollars in the future it’s worth
Or even a million
LETS GOO
however
99.9% its not worth that much
once we get more serious with the work ill get per hour pay
expected to be 200 signing bonus + 20-25 an hour
can you even get paid if you're under 16 how does that work 💀
everyone in the company is under 16
its owned by his 15 year old friend
That’s a rather unique company
ohh its not like you're getting paid through taxes and shit too right
bro getting paid in paper
so you wont get caught or something??
^
wait it would get taxed?
no
oh
Can I get 80% of revenue?
the only other job i found while jobhunting was another 15 year old ceo ik
CEO 
but their ml/ai position is much more competitive
yet it pays 70k salary
so i would like to work towards that for next year
Are the companies actually creating a legitimate product that people are using
you can only be legally employed in the US under 16 if a family member owns the company i thihnk
i’m a CEO CFO and president
Lol
yes
is there anything good left for summer?
what company hires 14 year olds
this isnt even legal so dont compare it to real internships
debating starting applying but idk if its even worth lol
besides apple in the rural areas of china
they wont be able to verify your employment
oh ok
this is for california
but california would be the state to have the strictest laws on this
its not an official contract
it says for california you can only work at 14-15 if you HAVENT completed 7th grade
the "contract" was just a discord dm message
LMAO
bruh moment
bro
bro is joining his friend minecraft faction
ok
"so umm if you want to take an offer now ill give you waht i offered the other dude. So we can do it where we will try it out for a month and offer you 0.3% equity. Then if thats good we will add a addiontal 0.8% totaling to 1% owned if you continue after that month. Keep in mind this doesnt include salary once we make money we can have a reasonable per hour basis salary dependent on the amount of money we have
feel free to negotiate"
then do some small amount of work for a few weeks and see if you get paid after that
this cant be real
how do u know this guy has 100k in funding
where is the money coming from???
we're planning to raise 5-10k soon
whats the product
VCs
if you're allowed to say
if my recruiter started the offer message with "so umm" im writing their name into the death note
im not sure
have you researched the vcs
not funded too well
wait is this a company
he said its some private overseas investors he knwos
bruh youre trolling
oh nahhh
how would a 15 year old have connections with private oversea investors?
@honest spire oh yeah for amazon right i was talkin abt c1
why not
or maybe both
15 year olds can own funds
because hes a freshman in highschol




