2023_summer

[jaunty cove]

found the guy

[astral dew]

Needed to do something else so if they can pull it off then 🫣

[jaunty cove]

dude has a bunch of cool paitnings about the fall of rome

[mystic depot]

i think the metaverse idea is good but i think it was poorly timed on marks behalf lmao, right in the middle of the web3 hype etc etc

[trail cove]

why does imc want you to install the most up to date adobe flash player

🤔 🤔 🤔

[jaunty cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZgHEM32xKo

[mystic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[astral dew]

Yeah def not the right timing. Trying to change course then the pandemic

It'll be interesting for sure. But I wouldn't mind joining meta full time

[mystic depot]

fr i feel like if he had just held of until perhaps now or even a year or two then it would have been prime time for them to make serious moves on the idea

[cedar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/nigel-thornberry-kid-gif-18794071

[mystic depot]

i think the idea is def the future just not 1,2 years future more like 10-15 year lmao

[jaunty cove]

i just want to move to oregon and go on hikes and play civ 5 and work from home

is that too much to ask

[astral dew]

Yeah. But also on the flip side, whoever makes it happen first will be the major player. Meta looks like they'll get to it first. Even got a partnership with Microsoft now because of it

[robust bridge]

anyone heard back from addepar after oa?

[mystic depot]

ye tbh thats a good point i had forgotten about the "being first thing" tbh. it is important

[astral dew]

Yeah. In terms of the meta verse but virtual gaming is taking off now imo

[jaunty cove]

yea insteda of civ5 can just play settlers of catan

[fossil shuttle]

Anyone else get that Amazon email lmao

[jaunty cove]

@obsidian olive

[mystic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-spongebob-what-pardon-sorry-gif-20542212

[jaunty cove]

no

i need offer

portal updates come out in 3 hours

[obsidian olive]

imposter

[fossil shuttle]

The under consideration email thing

[mystic depot]

whats it say?

[fossil shuttle]

It literally just says you’re still under consideration for the position, Idek why they would send that

[mystic depot]

bruh

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-be-bruh-beluga-gif-25964074

[jaunty cove]

facts

what is this dance called again

[fossil shuttle]

Floss

[mystic depot]

floss i think

https://tenor.com/view/backpack-kid-backpack-kid-dance-floss-floss-dance-gif-18264451

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-gif-24668699

[jaunty cove]

yea

[fossil shuttle]

Me when my advisor calls my internship fake

[sinful locust]

bro

wtf was that tiktok oa

3 hards

[jaunty cove]

Lol

[fossil shuttle]

I opened it and then closed it

[sinful locust]

i finished it

but damn

that shit was annoying

[hardy patrol]

3 hards wtf

[mystic depot]

rip didn't do mine

i think they gonna send it to me again lmao

[mystic depot]

gl bro

[sinful locust]

ty

[jaunty cove]

i think i got resume screened after

sad

[sinful locust]

gonna schedule my karat next week

[jaunty cove]

for who

[sinful locust]

robinhood

[jaunty cove]

nice

[sinful locust]

should be doable

[jaunty cove]

you got an interview bro

[sinful locust]

only an hour long

ig

but i knew i would pass gca lol

gca is free

[jaunty cove]

yea but

getting karat i think means u passed first resume screen

[hardy patrol]

boycotting robinhood they ghosted me

[dense tinsel]

guys

somoene is offering me an internship

[sinful locust]

yes

[dense tinsel]

but

i dont think im good enough

should i say that??

[sinful locust]

no

you shouldnt

[jaunty cove]

yes

[dense tinsel]

ok

[sinful locust]

thats called being stupid

lol

which you dont want to do

so accept it

[jaunty cove]

tell them youre disabled and dont know how to code

[sinful locust]

youre a 10th grader u got time kiddo

[proud crag]

bruh

[dense tinsel]

hes a 9th grader

the ceo

[proud crag]

neclo u need to change minsset

[sinful locust]

....

LOL

[jaunty cove]

LMAO

[dense tinsel]

but he's backed by VCs

[sand coral]

Anyone gotten an interview from Addepar?

[dense tinsel]

ill try to find time to get a position

[sinful locust]

@rigid compass 9th grade ceo

[proud crag]

you need to play the role of a sociopath who fakes it till they make it

[sinful locust]

10th grade internship

[jaunty cove]

dude what is his company

[sinful locust]

lol

[dense tinsel]

am not allowed to say

[jaunty cove]

9th grader backed by vcs

[sinful locust]

which vc

sequioa?

[jaunty cove]

no

a VC

[dense tinsel]

he might give me signing bonus

[jaunty cove]

the ceo of the VC is an 8th grader

[dense tinsel]

but id khow much

[sinful locust]

....

bro

[dense tinsel]

the vCs are overseas private investors

[jaunty cove]

thats so sus

Lmfao

[mighty moat]

lmao

[dense tinsel]

no

[mighty moat]

nigerian?

[dense tinsel]

no

[jaunty cove]

racist

[mighty moat]

how do u know

[dense tinsel]

the pay is around 20-25 per hour

but can go higher

is that good?

[jaunty cove]

yes

if they actually pay u

[dense tinsel]

they will bro hes a friend

[jaunty cove]

why are you asking us

[mighty moat]

take it then

[jaunty cove]

if you should tell someone youre not good enough for a job

[sinful locust]

anyone here done karat?

[jaunty cove]

just take it and learn on the job

[sinful locust]

if so, how is it

whats the structure

[dense tinsel]

i dont wanna drag down his startup

i 100% sure i dont know enough

ml/ai

[jaunty cove]

theyre not going to go under because theyre paying you 20 hours an hour

this is how you learn

[half plinth]

did u get it for rh

[dense tinsel]

also good for networking

[jaunty cove]

yes

[sinful locust]

yeah

[dense tinsel]

the VP is 15 and an ML/Ai expert apparently

so

[proud crag]

u will learn

[dense tinsel]

however

[hollow field]

What

[jaunty cove]

it sounds like a good opportunity if the guy is legit

[dense tinsel]

i have 0 time these days

[proud crag]

just learn fast

[jaunty cove]

if not you lose nothing rly

[hollow field]

The VP is a highscooler?

[proud crag]

make time

[dense tinsel]

so i asked him to reserve a spot for summer

[sinful locust]

lol

[proud crag]

fail ur classes

[sinful locust]

ye

[dense tinsel]

all the employees are 15 or younger

[sinful locust]

[jaunty cove]

i have a feeling the real CEO is someones dad

[proud crag]

can a 15 year old be a ceo

[dense tinsel]

ofc

[mighty moat]

why

[hollow field]

Reminds me of half the science fair projects

[jaunty cove]

Lmao

[mighty moat]

LMAO

[jaunty cove]

erich bachman is dead..

[dense tinsel]

bro the CEO is cracked

i can learn so much

[mighty moat]

okay take it

[dense tinsel]

oh yes ik aviato's founder

eric zhu

yup

[proud crag]

ok so who cares that u dont know shit right now

[sinful locust]

[dense tinsel]

but hes got 100k funding

[proud crag]

if u can learn shit

abscond with the money

steal it all

[dense tinsel]

my friends startup is raising

i think eric also runs bachmanity fund

[sinful locust]

lol

[dense tinsel]

his own vc thing

[sinful locust]

so cringe

[dense tinsel]

its got like, 20 million in funds or something?

anyway

[sinful locust]

exactly

[jaunty cove]

wait you guys werent trolling

[sinful locust]

its mad cringe

[jaunty cove]

aviato is a real startup

[sick oar]

are we talking about the 15 year old dude from carmel hs

in indiana

[jaunty cove]

xd

[sick oar]

i've seen his linkedin

[quaint bolt]

same

[dense tinsel]

yup

[mighty moat]

this is so funny

[sinful locust]

send linkedin

[sick oar]

oh my god 💀

[mighty moat]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericzhu105

[dense tinsel]

i used to be friends with him but then he sent like

nsfw stuff in a server

and i decided he wasnt a good kid

[sick oar]

why r u such a tryhard @dense tinsel

[dense tinsel]

eh we talk every once in a blue moon

[sinful locust]

this is cringe

[wooden shard]

[sick oar]

"aviato"

[wooden shard]

What am I reading

[sick oar]

kid watched silicon valley

and went

[mighty moat]

whats going on

[sick oar]

imma become that

[sinful locust]

have to email recruiter

[quaint bolt]

no they do resume screen between each round

[sinful locust]

@rigid compass tried

but got ghosted

[dense tinsel]

surprised yall know aviato

[quaint bolt]

they only accept people from yahkuna matudiversity

[sick oar]

does LI resume between each

holy f wtf

[dense tinsel]

he seems to be more famous than i thought

[jaunty cove]

i heard tht was true

[sick oar]

wtf

ok guys i got the google form on friday am i gonna get a phone or get denied

[sinful locust]

lol

[dense tinsel]

this startup im thinking of working for will go public in 331 days

[sick oar]

whats the verdict

[dense tinsel]

anyway ill try to make time to work there

thx

for advice

[proud crag]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ericzhu105_the-best-time-to-pitch-a-vc-is-this-morning-activity-6972945535380975616-A8xM?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

[quaint bolt]

well before today I never saw anyone get rejected after goog oa

[proud crag]

this kid is going places

[sinful locust]

wtf

[jaunty cove]

wat

[dense tinsel]

eric once pitched to VC in his school bathroom

[jaunty cove]

i thought eric zhu linkedin was a troll

[sick oar]

its form apm

[jaunty cove]

based on silicon valley

[sick oar]

for

[sinful locust]

yah seems like it

[dense tinsel]

hes been called a fraud before

[sinful locust]

u can really tell hes 15

[jaunty cove]

he is a fraud

[sinful locust]

lol

[proud crag]

eric zhu and eric zhang. sounds like eric is the most prestigious name

[sick oar]

most ppl i know got a phone after the apm google form

some didnt

[sinful locust]

who would post that on linkedin

[dense tinsel]

lmfaoooo

[jaunty cove]

his parents told him internships are important and set him up with opportunities where he doesnt rly do anything and calls them internships

[sinful locust]

thank god i got lucky with a recruiter who didnt quit in the middle of the season

[dense tinsel]

eric zhu lives in a hacker house

[sick oar]

lmaoooo

[dense tinsel]

idk how his parents let him do that

[proud crag]

https://silicon-valley.fandom.com/wiki/Aviato

[dense tinsel]

he cnat really code

but like

thats fine

[sick oar]

yeah

[proud crag]

its from a tv show 💀

[sick oar]

yeah]

thas what i said above

stop copying me

[dense tinsel]

eric zhu isnt retarded

hes just a bit immature as a founder

[sick oar]

.

[sinful locust]

fr

[dense tinsel]

he got banned from some of teen startup and coding slacks and discords

for advertising himself too much

[sinful locust]

lol

affiliate marketing

[proud crag]

all 15 year olds are brain issued, sorry i dont make the rules

[jaunty cove]

are u trolling rn neclo

[dense tinsel]

no

ik a ton of teen startups

theres a whole discord for it

[jaunty cove]

just do it if it sounds cool to you

[dense tinsel]

yes

teen startups are common

a buddy ik is 15 offering a 70k salary for frontedn devs

[mighty moat]

any teen startups making enterprise tools

[jaunty cove]

teen startups are common sure

[mighty moat]

:D

[jaunty cove]

but this guy just sounds like a meme

[dense tinsel]

eric?

nah hes just immature

[sinful locust]

eric zhu the type of guy to invest in LUNA

[jaunty cove]

like ive seen his linkedin before

and i thought it was a troll profile

[sinful locust]

alex kepler true goat

🐐

[proud crag]

alex kepler is legit

[sinful locust]

ye

[dense tinsel]

LMAO

[proud crag]

i met him between his phd thesis defenses

[dense tinsel]

my mom thinks eric zhu is cool

[sinful locust]

bruh

he is not cool

[dense tinsel]

cuz i was in a call with him once

and my mom was lke

WOAHH

cuz he mentioned he raised 100k

[hollow field]

Who is Eric zhang

IOI?

[dense tinsel]

and my mom was like "see he so successful"

[sinful locust]

IOI

yeah

[hollow field]

Ok yeah just checking

[jaunty cove]

they are all prestige chasers but i dont see any evidence they have the skills to back it up

[proud crag]

who is they

[sick oar]

sophomore QR at jump

damn

[jaunty cove]

dude is way more cracked than just that

[proud crag]

ask me. i know the intern pay of about 10 companies total

[jaunty cove]

look at his publications

[sick oar]

yeah wait i didn't even see 2020 scale ai

wtf

and nvidia??

IOI

ik

i saw

[sinful locust]

the companies arent even impressive compared to his writings and research tbh

[jaunty cove]

the craziest thing is that he has only 24 hours in a day like the rest of us

[wooden shard]

https://modal.com/company

cracked

[proud crag]

hes not on discord

[sinful locust]

what happened to the guy who screenshared his meraki interview

[proud crag]

thats the difference

i only have 3 hours in te day cuz rhe other 12 are soent on discord

[jaunty cove]

he got banned

[sick oar]

has modal gotten funding

[sinful locust]

7 million seed

[jaunty cove]

does he do school at the internships??

[jaunty cove]

is this owned by scale ai

[dense tinsel]

dont show this to my mom

[jaunty cove]

the website is the same

[wooden shard]

Idk

It’s erik Zhang’s current company

[jaunty cove]

it sounds like a competitor

[wooden shard]

Engineers look cracked

[jaunty cove]

but look at the animation

its the same as scaleai

[dense tinsel]

didnt modal go through ycombinator?

in 2016 iirc

modal is different

[proud crag]

is ycombinaotr even worth? they take like 7% dont they

[sick oar]

did u guys see the auto documentation company

[dense tinsel]

theyve produced stuff like instacart and stripe

[proud crag]

500k

yc gives u 500 dolars

[sinful locust]

doordash

🐐

[proud crag]

they roll dice

[sick oar]

YC has volume

yea

[proud crag]

https://youtu.be/VBsbp6k_C6E

they make 1 or 2 coinbases a year and those pay for everything else

[dense tinsel]

based

[proud crag]

pandey says vc prefers 1% chance to become unicorn over large chance to become decently profitavle

[dense tinsel]

beign backed by VCs is a good sign right

for me t owork at a company

i wonder what the signing bonus is

[proud crag]

it means u have 1% chance to be a unicorn

[dense tinsel]

lmao

[sinful locust]

lol

[quaint bolt]

backed by VCs is so broad LOL

[sinful locust]

basically

[sinful locust]

everyones "backed by a VC"

smh

@rigid compass BALYASNY

[proud crag]

not me

[dense tinsel]

overseas private investors

[proud crag]

im not backed

[quaint bolt]

you wanna get in with a VCs top company, not just any random VC-backed company

[sick oar]

former ceo of yc created openai

just become ceo of yc

[dense tinsel]

yeah but this is super early stage startup

ill be employee number 3

[proud crag]

looking for ways to word something as impressive is a very not good strategy in life IMO

[dense tinsel]

they are true VCs tho

[jaunty cove]

its good for investment banking probably

[proud crag]

you have NOTHING to lose. just go for it

who cares how much bragging rights u get

or ur signing bonus

its a cool opportunity

and will likely fail

but u will learn

[dense tinsel]

yeah ill go for it

but

i hae 0 time

i cant even make any

[sinful locust]

they so bad

[dense tinsel]

i have an idea

[proud crag]

they might not be solvent next summer

[dense tinsel]

i have 5 days of free time during thanksgiving break

[sinful locust]

bruh

lol

MONAD LABS

[dense tinsel]

they're going public in a year and wont need funding to keep developing

[proud crag]

how do you know

dates going public are not set in stone

[dense tinsel]

oh

not even if theres a timer countdown thingy?

i really should go back to fixing myf lask error tbh

[proud crag]

its like college grad date

[dense tinsel]

ill ask for the pay per hour, funding they have, and my signing bonus

i need a paypal tho

[proud crag]

i can just stay in college

databricks was supposed to ipo

they didnt

[dense tinsel]

maybe with my signing bonus i can buy my friend a handbag

since she keeps wanting one lmaoo

tf is that

oh MosaicML

[wooden shard]

just focus on school bro

[quaint bolt]

very pog

[sinful locust]

buy urself some shit

[quaint bolt]

there's a couple loo kids there

[sinful locust]

lol

[dense tinsel]

yeah but i dont need anything rn

[sinful locust]

then save

[proud crag]

go on vacation then

buy urself a trip to finland

[dense tinsel]

true

and its not like im a simp im just tryna be nice

and think abotu myf riends

[proud crag]

go on vacation

coloseum in italy

[dense tinsel]

bro

the signing bonus will be less than 1k probably

i cant go on vacation with that petty money

[jaunty cove]

💀

when i was 14 i thought $100 was a lot of money

[steady crow]

Anyone did SIG 90 min swe technical for intern? what is it like?

[dense tinsel]

it really isnt

i think 1k isnt necesssarily a lot

[brave orbit]

So a while back I got a “resume tip” where they told me to rewrite my bullet points to focus on numbers and as a result, there’s much less description of all projects and work experiences + technologies used in them
Is that actually true?

[dense tinsel]

esp for a signing bonus

i wont complain tho

also ig i wont be spending it on my friend

since i should save

[jaunty cove]

numbers is good but u gotta still describe what you were working on

and the technical aspect

[proud crag]

1000 is enough to go to italy

[dense tinsel]

and not do much tho

[proud crag]

false

[dense tinsel]

whats a good pay per hour

[proud crag]

u can do so much shit there without breaking da bank

[dense tinsel]

that i should be happy with

35? 40?

[quaint bolt]

my friend went to italy recently

I'll ask her

[proud crag]

50/hr for intern, 100/hr TC for full time. any less is peanuts

[quaint bolt]

another friend's half-Italian

[jaunty cove]

1000 is enough to pay for the ticket bro

[dense tinsel]

ok yeah

[proud crag]

i went too. tickets to see shit isnt too expensive and hostels are cheap af

[dense tinsel]

so 50/hr i should expect?

[jaunty cove]

no

youre 14

[proud crag]

70/hr

[dense tinsel]

i dont know if he can afford to pay 50

[quaint bolt]

no lol

what location is this

[proud crag]

spit in his face id he offers 49

[dense tinsel]

my friends startup

he asked me to work for him

[jaunty cove]

its eric zhus start up

[dense tinsel]

no

thats aviato

[hollow field]

Wait how old r h

[dense tinsel]

14

[quaint bolt]

who is eric zhu

[hollow field]

Bruh

[dense tinsel]

teen founder

whos immature but smart

[jaunty cove]

at 14 expect $15 an hour

[proud crag]

when i was 14 i was playing smash bros melee

[dense tinsel]

thats so shit

wtf

[hollow field]

How r 14 year olds expecting 50 an hour

What is happening

[jaunty cove]

bruh youre trolling

[dense tinsel]

@proud crag u lied to me

[dense tinsel]

bro its vc backed

[hollow field]

Swan is like 20

[proud crag]

50/hr is bare minimum

[dense tinsel]

they should be able to pay more than 15

[jaunty cove]

JUST TAKE THE JOB BRO

[hollow field]

U r not 14

[jaunty cove]

stop asking us

[dense tinsel]

u sure?

[proud crag]

neclo dont listen to me

[hollow field]

For college students

[dense tinsel]

i wanna make sure im not getting scammed lol

[proud crag]

15 is good for you

[hollow field]

Not high schoolers 🤣

[quaint bolt]

when I was 14 I was asking my mom for pocket money so I could take my gf out on a date

[dense tinsel]

@proud crag U COULDVE SAID THAT

U LIL FKER

[quaint bolt]

don't listen to swan

[proud crag]

if you get paid anythinf then ur not being ripped off and tbh im very impressed @dense tinsel

[dense tinsel]

i was offered 25 before

[hollow field]

I was getting paid less to work in the meat cooler at Walmart at 16

[dense tinsel]

so ig 15 seems like small bcause of that

[proud crag]

why didnt u say yes

25 is good for college

[dense tinsel]

my mom didnt trust the founder

[proud crag]

let alone hs

[dense tinsel]

so she didnt let me take the job

[proud crag]

who fucking cares its literally free money

run away from home 25/hr is enough to pay rent

[dense tinsel]

are u dumb

its not

[quaint bolt]

?avatar @burnt spoke

[warped dagger]

Avatar for znn#8536

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[dense tinsel]

my area is like top 15 wealthiet counties in america

rent is crazy

[proud crag]

1k/month is reasonable in msot COLs

[jaunty cove]

you know whats worse than $25 an hour

[proud crag]

with roomates

[hollow field]

Maybe in bumfuck Texas

[dense tinsel]

yes

[jaunty cove]

no money and no experience

[dense tinsel]

yeah true

ok ill take the job then

bye

thx for advice peeps

[proud crag]

25 is more thab most humans in america make

[hollow field]

How r high schoolers even finding this discord

[jaunty cove]

🕹️

wrong emote

Tf

i thought you already talked to them

[proud crag]

tfw citadel offers me less than 120/hr

decline offer

[jaunty cove]

ah

[vapid pecan]

is there any point in ghosting????

mby im their 2nd/3rd choice lol

[proud crag]

sus

quehanna

[hollow field]

Since Roblox final?

[vapid pecan]

yeah

[hollow field]

U check your spam and all that?

[vapid pecan]

ppl be getting roblox offers 12 hours after final

[vapid pecan]

yep and sent a follow up

and told my recruiter i have deadline today

[hollow field]

I got rejected within 4-5 days lol

So I just assumed they're fast in gen

[vapid pecan]

yeah same theyre fast af

[hollow field]

But I thought 2 weeks was the max for roblox

[vapid pecan]

i havent seen any1 wait more than a week

im at 2 weeks rn 💀

[hollow field]

When was your LinkedIn final

[dense tinsel]

wife/husband perpetuates the binary gender construct 🤓

[hollow field]

Mine was 13th

[vapid pecan]

3 weeks ago

tues/wed

iirc

[hollow field]

Oh so I think that same week

[hollow field]

Yeah I haven't gotten a res eithrr

[safe minnow]

Wtf

[hollow field]

And they only do reviews every wednesday

[vapid pecan]

yh im p sure i wont make it past team matching

thats prob y the delay

no team interested lol

[dense tinsel]

ok my friend said im prob not skilled enough yet

but by next summer hopes i can work for him

20-25 an hour

[jaunty cove]

is dell offer auto?

[proud crag]

how does gap in resume look for internships? if i have internship 2022 but not 2023 will that make new grad harder to get

[jaunty cove]

i doubt it

[dense tinsel]

have you guys ever had signing bonuses based off how many good projects you have

[jaunty cove]

try to do research or something cool

[proud crag]

neclo

[dense tinsel]

what

[proud crag]

stop

[proud crag]

if i get nothing i think i gonna just travel europe and asia tbh

[dense tinsel]

hmm at least 200 signing bonus if i have good projects

by next summer

guys can i negotaite that?

[proud crag]

stop

[dense tinsel]

like if i find another startup

can i counter offer or what not

like how does that work

😦

[jaunty cove]

youre trolling

[safe minnow]

This makes no sense

[jaunty cove]

2

dell offers $2 signing bonus because i made sorting algo visualizer

[dense tinsel]

its a suepr early stage startup

[jaunty cove]

react

[safe minnow]

They're giving signing bonuses as a super early stage startup?

[dense tinsel]

yeah

200 signing bonus next summer

if i show im good at ml/ai

the ceo is my friend so its sorta nepotism

but

[safe minnow]

$200?

[proud crag]

on the off chance ur being serious

[dense tinsel]

im being serious bro

[proud crag]

200 is like a day of woek

why the fucm do u want a bonus of less than half ur paycheck

even at 15/hr thats TWO DAYS of woek

[safe minnow]

This doesn't make sense tbh

[safe minnow]

You'd often need a good research paper or have driven impact to do this

Not a personal project

[dense tinsel]

ooh ok

bruh what

[proud crag]

gap is a step down which is worse imo

[hollow field]

Nah

[safe minnow]

@dense tinsel how many hours a week are you gonna do

[hollow field]

It's better to have smth

All exp is different

I doubt recruiters would care if u took a "step down"

[proud crag]

i will be 100. id rather skip internship and travel if id be making less than like 45 an hour

[hollow field]

Gap pays like 50 an hour anyways

[muted summit]

no housing tho right

[safe minnow]

Remote

[muted summit]

oh ok

[safe minnow]

The pay is actually really fucking good compared to their NG pay

[proud crag]

wtf

[safe minnow]

I haven't seen such a ratio in any other company

[heady storm]

48/hr + 3k signon

[proud crag]

i aint workin there tho

only working at tech companies or finance

[minor night]

Where do we post intern servers

[proud crag]

never done one i wouldnt know

[dense tinsel]

not sure

[proud crag]

LOL

[dense tinsel]

in summer i can do up to 8

[proud crag]

grmarly

[dense tinsel]

maybe 10-12

[proud crag]

why not 40?

why cant u 40/wk in sumer

[safe minnow]

Well the $1k pay makes sense

[jaunty cove]

because his 14 year old friend is the CEO

[proud crag]

i went into cs for the sole purpose of this

[safe minnow]

🤯

[proud crag]

jealous of my friend making 20/hr in high school

never got the hs internship tho

in hindsight its peanuts

but to me? insanity

now its peanuts to me tho

anything under 50 is peanuts

true

or college back then

pack then my friend got ibm as frwshman and only got 25/hr

also true

but we are in cs

[safe minnow]

IBM really has fallen

[proud crag]

no

its like 40 or 50/hr now

intern payhas like doubled in the past 5 years

[muted summit]

Damn.

[proud crag]

sad

normal engineers cap out at like 24/hr

thats insane for them

[safe minnow]

[proud crag]

viasat is liek half tecj arent they

tech

[jaunty cove]

yea i mean

not too long ago a lot internships were unpaid

[proud crag]

i bet tesla and spaced do that too for non cs interns

[safe minnow]

Bragging about your pay in general just seems

[muted summit]

^

[proud crag]

its so cringe i know
tc:40/hr

[ashen matrix]

how hard is adobe interview process

[muted summit]

like if someone asks its fine

but mfs that say their pay when no one asks is like

[ashen matrix]

just got an email from the recruiter i met at the career fair to apply, but i feel really unprepared

[muted summit]

wait til you get an interview @ashen matrix

LOL

[jaunty cove]

dont overthink it

that happened to me and then i got rejected

resume rejected

[muted summit]

there are so many stories of people saying recruiters told them to apply and then they get rejected or ghosted so you can just wait

yea...

[ashen matrix]

i applied to their finance data science position a while ago, but they told me to apply for the data engineer position

[proud crag]

home depot 13->home depot 15->moving company 17->intern 40

my salary progression

[muted summit]

13?

[ashen matrix]

lets say if i do get an interview

[proud crag]

40/0/0

[ashen matrix]

isnt adobe hard though

[muted summit]

no clue

[safe minnow]

Does bloomberg give priority next year if you've rejected their offer this year

[proud crag]

min wage was 12

[muted summit]

im stupid i thought u meant age at first

thats why i thought

i said 13? LMAO

[proud crag]

for home depot cashier during covid it was 13/3/0

[swift valley]

amazon or roblox ppl

[proud crag]

roblox

[swift valley]

[muted summit]

roblox probably

[proud crag]

renege amazon so theres room for me

[safe minnow]

Congrats

[swift valley]

thx

[jaunty cove]

science museum $13/hr (coolest job i had)

[proud crag]

1M/month???

ceo intern moment

[proud crag]

in boston?

u live there?

[jaunty cove]

no

sf

https://www.exploratorium.edu/

[proud crag]

ah

[jaunty cove]

all u sf interns should get drunk and go tehre

its a fun place

[proud crag]

same for boston

bostom museum sience cool too

cyans*

[mystic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-meme-confused-gif-24780938

waaaaaiiiiiit a min

r u fr rn?

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[proud crag]

meth mule inteen

intern

[mystic depot]

ooooh lmfao

[proud crag]

yes

lol i missed that

BUT

[muted summit]

paypal oa

[proud crag]

12 months gives you a 3m bonus too

[mystic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-chair-dog-gif-20519647

[proud crag]

jane dies of heroin

the plate is missing a shard

the meth is blue

actually good question

we code 8 hours a day and still find time to be online 24/7

wtf do recruiters do

[mystic depot]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-the-simpsons-chill-sitting-stare-gif-6130928

[proud crag]

LMFAO

[mystic depot]

nah not good enough u were 59 seconds too late

[proud crag]

im dying love that story

[sinful locust]

where would yall rank linkedin

[hollow field]

Walt is Heisenberg

[sinful locust]

comparted to gogle

[proud crag]

aboce goov

[hollow field]

Whichever one u like more

[mystic depot]

[proud crag]

i was about to type that before u even mentioned google

qboce foogle

[jaunty cove]

ruined

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[ashen matrix]

wait did u apply with the "know someone at the company"?

[proud crag]

hank is ballsack

[ashen matrix]

filling out the position atm, and don't i just put the recruiter name+email

[jaunty cove]

yea

like

[ashen matrix]

[jaunty cove]

where did u find out about us

[proud crag]

this is a spoiler but only once u finish the show and browse r/okbuddychickanery

[ashen matrix]

wat year were u

[jaunty cove]

like 2 months ago

[ashen matrix]

meant grade*

[hollow field]

Have y'all watched better call Saul? Heard that was good too

[ashen matrix]

were u a fresh/soph/junior/senior

not sure if that matters much

[jaunty cove]

i am a junior

[ashen matrix]

adobe told me they only wanted to hire seniors/grad students

[hollow field]

Tbh u might be getting somewhat hit by major

[hollow field]

For internship?????

[ashen matrix]

yeah

[burnt spoke]

Dec 2023?

[brave orbit]

Got my SWE ml internship application rejected like 3-4 times from Adobe even though I definitely have a good enough resume for it

[ashen matrix]

yeah

graduating dec 2023 grad students

or graduating seniors

[hollow field]

Don't u mean juniors?

[ashen matrix]

[safe minnow]

Why would a graduating senior do an internship

[ashen matrix]

uh yeah

meant that

[proud crag]

zoomer brain so i havent watched either, just seen all the clips from youtube

[jaunty cove]

yea oh wel

eventually math degree will help in landing a cool job where i do math stuff

[ashen matrix]

either juniors or graduating seniors december prob

[safe minnow]

Oh makes sense

[proud crag]

genuine question. if you have gf offer and job offer wtf do u do with ur life? watch tv all day?

[ashen matrix]

playing league and runescape

[proud crag]

why? u already have an offer

[hollow field]

Gf offer might take better part of a decade

[proud crag]

would u study LC after getting google?

[late terrace]

@sleek pike have u watched any anime

[jaunty cove]

gf offer + a ton of classes + internship is hard to blaance

[proud crag]

u have internship just fail ur classes

[hollow field]

Nah

[brave orbit]

Anyone focusing on ML? How do you cope with 60% applicants being Masters, 15% PhD and 25% Bachelors for almost all internships?

[jaunty cove]

i took a year off

[proud crag]

jus tbe better

[hollow field]

I would say google is a great place to start career

[sinful locust]

I emailed google recruiter in September telling them I have deadlines and they just responded to me asking me to send my resume to them %_%

[jaunty cove]

kind of a mistake in hindsight but oh well

[brave orbit]

I feel like no matter how much I do in terms of projects and experiences, it never outweighs a ML PhD or rarely a MS

[safe minnow]

It helps if you have previous ML exp at a prestigious company

[proud crag]

the most cracked cs people skip grad school and go straight into industry. this isnt like physics where the best people are the masters and phd people

[hollow field]

I feel like class of 2024 just been getting hammered

Senior year of hs and freshman year screwed by covid

[proud crag]

masters often means u couldnt get a good job from bachelors

[hollow field]

Now this

[hollow field]

Nah Eric zhang

[proud crag]

its like the NBA. if you are truly cracked at basketball you join the draft as soon as youre allowed to, rather than waiting till u graduate college

[hollow field]

The super cracked people go into research a lot of the times

[boreal forge]

Hes doing bs ms in 4 year tho

[jaunty cove]

most people do

[ashen matrix]

me

[proud crag]

the one pre phd cs guy i know is quite cracked, but also misled (he thinks phd is best way to make the most money)

[jaunty cove]

you dont need one if youre smart ig

[ashen matrix]

uh wat u mean

[jaunty cove]

[ashen matrix]

most bachelors don't get ML internships

[brave orbit]

I’m doing a resume project we can collaborate on @ashen matrix

For ML

[ashen matrix]

and majority of master students also don't do research

[proud crag]

ML research usually needs grad school, but MLE can be with bachelors

[ashen matrix]

its insanely hard to enter a ML lab

[proud crag]

the smartest cs people are attrracted to making markets for some reason. such a coincidence

[ashen matrix]

idk wat that is

[proud crag]

they just really like making markets

[brave orbit]

Unless you find professors at your own university, that’s what I’ve been doing

A lot of professors are happy to take on undergrad researchers for ml

[ashen matrix]

most professors want to take in juniors/seniors who already took the pre-reqs, or freshies they want to mold

its very hard to understand ML without a strong stats background or taking ML for undergrad

[proud crag]

where can i find the bid ask spread

[jaunty cove]

this problem is hard

[ashen matrix]

but going back to the intern thing

I was told if ur a grad student doing ML research, don't need citizenship, and a good resume

it shouldn't be that bad

[brave orbit]

I got my first ml research when I was in my ML class, I kept bugging the professor and just tried to be very active during class

[ashen matrix]

Phd students only apply to research positions (most of the time)

[brave orbit]

Had 0 experience at the time

[ashen matrix]

for data science/ ML engineer stuff, its usually masters

yeah

[proud crag]

the most cracked are at JS imo, but the most smart are probably pure professors or maybe a research scientist

cracked is different from smart imo

[brave orbit]

Yeah getting into Deepmind is a dream that is almost impossible without a PhD

[ashen matrix]

i just want a job in DS

[jaunty cove]

yaron minsky is basically in academia

[ashen matrix]

[proud crag]

cracked means ur brain goes a mile a minute and u can multitask well. smart means ur brain goes normal speed or maybe even slower, but u can understand really complex stuff

quant traders are cracked

[brave orbit]

A project to show off ml/dl + Aws + SWE skills for the resume

[proud crag]

c++ gigachads are cracked

[ashen matrix]

i talked with people and told me most projects in ML don't really mean much

[proud crag]

lots of surgeons are cracked

rather than smart

surgeons are liek the go to cracked person job

[teal plover]

what the actual fuck what do I do about stripe man

[brave orbit]

Why?

[ashen matrix]

long-term research/ internship >>>>>>> projects

cause sklearn a dataset doesn't mean anything

[teal plover]

asked the recruiter last week she said we're still processing (no waitlist or rejection yet)

[ashen matrix]

it's usually scrape some sort of data, throw in an algorithm, and say watever u got

[brave orbit]

That’s more kaggle type ml projects though

[teal plover]

and it's been almost 2 weeeeks

[brave orbit]

Aka data science oriented ML

[ashen matrix]

[proud crag]

for sure. but its not so complicated that u need to be crazy genius to do it, the bigger bottleneck is functioning on low sleep and having a steady hand/working well under pressure

[jaunty cove]

true but a genuinely good project i would think helps

[ashen matrix]

i guess it just depends on where u are

[proud crag]

what if someones bad under pressure?

doesnt matter how smart you are

[brave orbit]

Projects like recreating SOTA large papers as an undergrad and trying to improve should definitely mean something

[ashen matrix]

idk, i can't really see that benefiting me

[proud crag]

u will be a garbage surgeon

[jaunty cove]

plus i would argue this definition of cracked is way less admirable than this definition of smart

[proud crag]

why does it matter

theyre both good at different things

we need surgeons

[somber solstice]

<3 c++

[proud crag]

that can survie on 3 hours of sleep

[jaunty cove]

do we need traders that bad??

[proud crag]

qrs are more smart than cracked imo

[proud crag]

we need surgeons

[proper gyro]

whats a qr

[ashen matrix]

it's pretty hard without a prof steering u in the right direction

[proper gyro]

oh ty

[ashen matrix]

i like my sleep and hobbies ty

[proud crag]

thats a QR

imo both are interesting

[brave orbit]

It is, but the amount of experience you get as a result is worth it
You can start with well known papers that have been implemented by a lot of people and get the hang of it that way, work your way up to doing everything on your own

[ashen matrix]

wait at the resume screening?

[jaunty cove]

This is my QUANT

[proper gyro]

im so tired of job hunting

[brave orbit]

Yes

[ashen matrix]

[proper gyro]

but at the same time the pay i have is ass

[jaunty cove]

my QUANTITATIVE

[proud crag]

https://youtu.be/3hG4X5iTK8M?t=113 @proper gyro better time stamp

this is where the funny part starts

[jaunty cove]

this is such a good movie

[ashen matrix]

did u already have internships

[summer vector]

@median hedge saw your message. soon, you will be able to forward application emails and have it automatically update your tracker

[proud crag]

this isnt even made up this is nearly the exact scene that happened. after this in real life they referred to him as "lippman's asian quant"

[brave orbit]

2 research experiences, 1 internship at a small company

[jaunty cove]

oh they chnaged his name?

[brave orbit]

All in ML

[ashen matrix]

are u an undergrad or grad student

[jaunty cove]

from jared vennet

[brave orbit]

3rd year undergrad

[ashen matrix]

oh

when did u apply

were u applying since freshman

[proud crag]

his real name is eugene gu and he has a linkedin

wait let me find it

[ashen matrix]

how tf did u get rejected 3-4 times

[proud crag]

migh be different name

[brave orbit]

I honestly haven’t started taking everything seriously till spring this year

[jaunty cove]

i meant ryan goslings character

[proud crag]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugene-xu-50481a7/

@jaunty cove

this guy

they called him "lippman's asian quant"

[sullen grail]

How long after stripe oa did yall hear back for interview?

[brave orbit]

I just started mass applying for ML internships a couple months ago, only got one OA from Samsung due this Friday

[proud crag]

lippman is gosling

[ashen matrix]

how are u finding places to apply to

[brave orbit]

The job kept getting reposted

[ashen matrix]

i applied to like 30 places

[brave orbit]

Just LinkedIn

[ashen matrix]

adobe told me they didn't open until october

[jaunty cove]

yea his name is jared vennett in the movie

[ashen matrix]

for internships

[proud crag]

oh i guess they did change

[ashen matrix]

and grad internships just opened a few days ago

[jaunty cove]

thats funny tho

i thought it was exaggeration

[ashen matrix]

a few other companies told me they didn't open until october too for ML stuff

[brave orbit]

For Adobe they had SWE ML internships pop up all month, that’s what I kept getting rejected from

Or do you mean november?

[ashen matrix]

nope they said october

i talked with them in person

[proud crag]

https://www.litcharts.com/lit/the-big-short/characters/eugene-xu#:~:text=His name was Eugene Xu,Bloomberg terminal like a pet.

[brave orbit]

Honestly it’s very hopeless trying to find an ml internship

[ashen matrix]

[muted summit]

no way they expect bucket sort for k closest points

prob heap right

[proud crag]

"how can a guy who cant speak english lie" 😂 @jaunty cove

send me the leetcode prob

[jaunty cove]

neither

[brave orbit]

If I don’t find an internship for next summer idk what I’m going to do since I’m graduating the following year

[ashen matrix]

[jaunty cove]

quickselcet

[ashen matrix]

i only have one summer left

[jaunty cove]

bucket sort wouldnt be good

[brave orbit]

Same

[proud crag]

@jaunty cove how is NlogK for soln

that seems reasonably fast to me

[brave orbit]

SWE ML internships are ideal

[proud crag]

eh k can be whole length tho

[brave orbit]

But once again, PhD’s and Masters

[proud crag]

yeah u need quick select right?

[jaunty cove]

its mathematically close to linear

but quickselect is the "optimal" solution

[proud crag]

is that the only option to be linear?

quickselect?

[jaunty cove]

i mean u can do bucket sort

its "linear"

[brave orbit]

No matter how good you are at ML, how great your experiences, if you’re an undergrad competing with PhD’s that publish ML papers at top conferences what is the point

[ashen matrix]

[proud crag]

u cant because theres no constraint on the points really

[ashen matrix]

are you talking about

research internships

[jaunty cove]

yes but its 'linear"

[ashen matrix]

or internships where you're applying ML to industry problems

[proud crag]

i guess they can only be max sqrt2*10^4 distance

so in this case its not even bad

[safe minnow]

What even is that

[brave orbit]

Mostly the latter
For research internships it’s understandable

[ashen matrix]

most PhDs aren't publishing at top conferences and if they are, 99% of them are taken

[proud crag]

wait

no its not good enough colin

[jaunty cove]

i know

im saying its linear time complexity but it sucks

[proud crag]

since you have to store floats u cant do bucket sort. if u save them as squares then it becomes 10 million size

[brave orbit]

It’s a software engineering internship with a focus on machine learning
A bit of MLOps, software engineering, making models and deploying them into software

[proud crag]

i dont agree that counts as linear. u need it to be linear within the bounds of the input, rather than with bounds to allowed values of input. otherwise u can make 100% of sorting algos bucket sort

[brave orbit]

A lot of companies are having them nowadays

[jaunty cove]

ok

its O(n + k)

and k is huge

[proud crag]

n+k^2