2023_summer

[proven geode]

Nah like I got rejected

[crisp berry]

it came several weeks after applying

oh

what

[proven geode]

Maybe spam filtered?

:/

Oh thank you anyway

[sinful locust]

did you have to do threading and stuff

[jaunty cove]

its more of a reference manual than a textbook

eg im solving alien dictionary and want a refresher on topo sort

[proven geode]

That's okay, I have some CP experience already just looking for something that reviews stuff that needs to be known

[sinful locust]

i feel like a good example would be asking "kth smallest whatever" then following up with if O(n) time is possible

quickselect slaps

[jaunty cove]

quickselect isnt raally on

its avg

[sinful locust]

on?

wdym

[jaunty cove]

On

[proven geode]

O(n)

[sinful locust]

its o(n)

with high probability

if you use median of medians its o(n) worst case

[jaunty cove]

isnt it dif than saying hashmap insert is O(1) amortized

[gilded parcel]

Uber phone tmrw prayge

[sinful locust]

yes

[jaunty cove]

what is sufficiently small probability for us to say

[sinful locust]

depends on some things

if you want to see a proof

[hallow scroll]

Ask recruiter

[stable root]

Has anyone heard back after roblox final yet?

[hallow scroll]

You don’t have one

[sinful locust]

https://personal.utdallas.edu/~sxb027100/cs6363/quickselect.pdf

[hallow scroll]

Ask peopleops

When you get your offer letter dm me I’ll give you their email

Internships

Work your way up the ladder

[jaunty cove]

isnt omega worst case though

i never actually took dsa

[hallow scroll]

Leetcode is too hard ima just quit leetcode and go into my interviews blind

I gotta pass one right

[jaunty cove]

yes

[rapid swan]

me

[jaunty cove]

if u choose at the end every time right

[hallow scroll]

I’ll dm when I get out of class

[rapid swan]

bro

[hallow scroll]

I’m too lazy to look for it rn

[rapid swan]

niantic reached out

inb4 working on pokemon go

[hallow scroll]

Pog

[rapid swan]

😈😈

[proven geode]

How important are referrals? Are most of you able to get to interviews without them

Ty

[quaint bolt]

anyone else do optiver oa?

what?? they sponsor tho?

I said I needed sponsorship in the app

the requirements doesn't mention sponsorship anymore

yeah they used to say they don't sponsor in the app

but that was last year

[sinful locust]

STOP

[hardy patrol]

for linked lists why do you have to specify if the node exists i thought .next would be enough

while fast and fast.next:
         slow = slow.next
         fast = fast.next.next

not seeing the significance of why you have to include the node itself in while loops

[proven geode]

If you don't then while fast.next could be a null access

[hardy patrol]

oh lmfao

it clicks thanks

[proven geode]

👍

[fathom hazel]

cause fast.next.next

if fast.next is None, u are doom

None.next -> error

ik awks already answered but im bored and i explain better :))

[crisp berry]

its auto right?

the email suggested they looked at our resumes but the amount sent out seems to suggest its auto?

[proven geode]

No you don't

[fathom hazel]

stop fooling yrself

[proven geode]

The only fool here is you

[hallow scroll]

Slack said no to nyc

[fathom hazel]

donkey

[hallow scroll]

The original code signal is automated so I can see that email being automated too

[crisp berry]

im still ghosted from hrt after doing oa

did ppl get a response today?

[zealous trail]

[hallow scroll]

Sadge indeed

[jaunty cove]

he told me that too

then ghostsd for 2 weeks

just got rejected

[shadow crater]

anyone recently had Capital One power day?

[jaunty cove]

i got 835 i python, realized i applied to c++, recruiter said he will send another, never did, just got rejected

[spark hearth]

lol l

[jaunty cove]

Yeah

i got shit on

Tbh

[sinful locust]

im wearing palantir shirt but wont do their oa
im a such a fraud lol

[teal plover]

hi! has anyone pushed their summer slack/salesforce/tableau internships for either spring/fall?

please lmk

[hallow scroll]

They only do off-season for Canada co ops 😔

No

It’s a lecture

2 more hours

I’ll send it now tho I’m less lazy then I was an hour ago

[sinful locust]

When did u do final

[fathom hazel]

no one like techlead

even techlead

i feel like everyone here is a guy

lol

[glad garnet]

anyone do an oa for amazon get a response back?

[fathom hazel]

im NG, but yes

[glad garnet]

what does NG mean

[fathom hazel]

new grad

[glad garnet]

ooo

did you ace all the problems

[hardy patrol]

bro just noticed hes in a computer science server

[fathom hazel]

for 2nd question, i solved 12/15 test cases

but i also have referral from Amazon friend so

[glad garnet]

oh I feel dumb

I was in the same boat

but my brain froze

I commented out some of my code and submitted

I think I got 9/15 test cases

[glad garnet]

also when did you do the oa?

[fathom hazel]

august, 4 days later recruiter called me again

[teal plover]

does amazon do off season?

[glad garnet]

oh nvm

i did mine aug 26

[teal plover]

yeahhh fucking sucks

[sinful locust]

not me

[hallow scroll]

You’re asking for return right? I’ve seen someone do return intern for off-season

[teal plover]

yes return

but didn't discuss it with my manager

so ig I'll leave it as summer

[teal plover]

or did he ask asp and they said yes?

[hallow scroll]

Not sure I think he asked

@quaint bolt hi

I also saw some people talk about it in the amazon server in the winter chat

[tawny pine]

how common is it for a company to say that they will not hold your offer spot (e.g. doing first people to accept offer get it, regardless of offer date)?

this seems very sus and uncommon (and my uni's career services agrees)

[lean pewter]

ngl that seems like p toxic place to work even if its legit

[tawny pine]

yeah. All the engineers I've spoken to really like it + the environment seems great

it's their first time doing interns and the recruiter said no one on the team has uni recruiting experience

so I'm somewhat willing to give them benefit of the doubt

[lean pewter]

gotcha but i just think fcfs is p sus for an offer tho

[tawny pine]

yeah

[heavy magnet]

does intuit often ask dp problems in interviews/karat challenge?

[gilded oxide]

i was able to schedule return internship this winter

i just replied to the email which contained the return offer message although I did discuss it with my manager before to make sure it was an option

[lean pewter]

i took it a while back

i got two graph problems

about mazes

[near swallow]

@quaint bolt is systems programming low level

is one a subset of the other

[pseudo shoal]

they are watching pokimane

[heavy magnet]

thx, was that for the phone interview or oa?

something similar to this https://leetcode.com/problems/walls-and-gates/

[lean pewter]

i can't see it

[heavy magnet]

ahh right its premium

[lean pewter]

but it's like binary maze problem i think there was one similar on lc

[heavy magnet]

ok thx for the info!

[coarse vigil]

Y

Nvm

[oak kite]

gimme twitch

[minor night]

Is it just me or are applications a lot harder this year than previous years?

I've gotten like nothing

[earnest hatch]

How so?

[earnest hatch]

Oh just scrolled up and saw your posts. I would email the recruiter at this point if you still haven't heard back.

[hollow field]

turns out i am an ass car builder

[jaunty cove]

the test is how long you wait until sending it

should i gaslight hrt into thinking they missed a phone with me

hey guys i waited for the phone call but it never came, can we rescheudle?

[muted summit]

what problem

[fathom hazel]

i doubt u are a girl, good try

[sinful locust]

why is that

[idle briar]

anyone know whats on the salesforce oa

just regular LC?

[earnest hatch]

Yeah

[hallow scroll]

its hackerrank

[idle briar]

its the futureforce thing right?

yeah hackerrank

[hallow scroll]

so different question per oa

[idle briar]

240 mins which is weird

[hallow scroll]

yeah they give you a lot of time

[idle briar]

is it better to finish ASAP

or not important

[hallow scroll]

nah i took like 2 hours and still passed

[idle briar]

oh nice

what does salesforce do lmao, they own heroku right?

[hallow scroll]

cheat

[earnest hatch]

They're known for CRM, and yeah Heroku is one of their properties

[ivory ocean]

Terrible slow solution

I simply hardcode

[idle briar]

im still salty

pagerduty resumer rejected me for fall

[ivory ocean]

I have memorized the first 20,000 Fibonacci numbers

Yeah

It’s just 20,000 cases in a switch

[fathom hazel]

nah im joking 🙃

[ivory ocean]

If you can’t manage that in like 10 min ur kinda stupid ngl

[fathom hazel]

you are fake

[ivory ocean]

Why would it be fake

MFD MFD MFD

FA-18C Hornet 🐝

[fathom hazel]

it's pretty funny though, and i was joking everyone in this server is a guy lol

[jaunty cove]

nice

[fathom hazel]

jane street is famous

[jaunty cove]

memory efficient dp

[fathom hazel]

after i learn dp, this gives me a chill down my spine

[old moon]

What is sig’s process

[fathom hazel]

so San Fran > san diego > irvine or ?

make more friends

go to tech event

[jaunty cove]

have u done longest valid palindromic substring

[fathom hazel]

other Amazon interns are tryhards too

University of California at San Diego

[jaunty cove]

no

[fathom hazel]

imposter

[jaunty cove]

i dont understand how its dp tho

[fathom hazel]

i got 1 OA that they say will last 3 hours and i will do dumbshit like math and english 😐

[lean pewter]

yeah

[fathom hazel]

everything first is hard

[jaunty cove]

the optimal is just intuition

[worn bear]

why post on linkedin

[jaunty cove]

basically brute force

but not rly

[fathom hazel]

hahaha

[jaunty cove]

no like

[lean pewter]

lol ya, i got shafted on apps until i got my first internship

[jaunty cove]

intuition the way you wouklf solve it by hand

look at the optimal solution

no memory

ima look at the dp solution later

[fathom hazel]

some test cases are crazy long 😐

[worn bear]

wdym

oh maybe

[fathom hazel]

remind me again how do u cache a recursion (memoization) ?
i use set() i

[lean pewter]

u'll be fine, i didnt really get any decent offers until mid fall
september was p dry last yr and then i got a couple big ns in late fall

[fathom hazel]

yeah both are basically hashing and same

sset 😆
i use SET = set()

hmm really

[jaunty cove]

the optimal is

O(1) memory

#define unordered_map unordered_set

priority queue

😎😎

Priority queue to determine top k priorities

[fathom hazel]

can u elaborate more ? is it similar to method overlading ?

[jaunty cove]

idk the difference between heap and pq

yes but pq are implemented using heaps

and idk the difference

[fathom hazel]

same

[slow quarry]

heap is complete binary tree pq uses a heap for implemetnatin

[jaunty cove]

what dors a pq do that a heap cant

[fathom hazel]

The priority queue is an advanced type of the queue data structure. Instead of dequeuing the oldest element, a priority queue sorts and dequeues elements based on their priorities.

Priority queues are used to handle scheduling problems where some tasks are prioritized over others.

[naive kayak]

@jaunty cove any update on ur amzn

[jaunty cove]

thats comparing smth else

[jaunty cove]

yeah, under review

i dont wanna wait

💀

[fathom hazel]

its one use cases of it

[naive kayak]

that's common yeah. or is that pointing u in the right direction 👀

[jaunty cove]

huh

Hopium

[hallow scroll]

full send

the survey is just for start dates

NYC so you can see me 😛

[slow quarry]

bad lol

[hallow scroll]

nyc cool doe

[hallow scroll]

same

[muted summit]

pans vids makes me wanna work at meta nyc LMAO

[ivory ocean]

Amazon or JOMC

JPMC

[slow quarry]

waiting on good duolingo final, instabase interviewer literally made me code up starter code even tho he had it in hand + wouldnt tell me about a map.count(), ghosted for both linkedin swe/frontend finals after perfect oa and phone, ghosted imc, convoy is a month away, bubble is tmrw

[ivory ocean]

Or Nordstrom (joke)

[slow quarry]

u have slack

[ivory ocean]

Hahhaha why

Detroit so I’m not the only intern there

[slow quarry]

mine is on 26 recrutier call

[ivory ocean]

I just got final interview to there and Nordstrom

Should I do them for the lol

[slow quarry]

i asked to expedite and recruiter ghosted

[ivory ocean]

Yeah

[clever grail]

nyc cscd meetup someday

[ivory ocean]

Hour 20 for JPMC and idk for Nordstrom but I think an hour

[hallow scroll]

winter hard doe

[hallow scroll]

bet

[ivory ocean]

Shithead

[jaunty cove]

jp morgan ghosted me for a month

[clever grail]

someday = winter

[ivory ocean]

Oh I thought you meant how long is the interview

JPMC from OA->Final was like a month

Or more

I live in Michigan sooo

goofy mf taking home an extra $1800

Not anymore you bullied me

Jk pay me $500 per month and deal

And have renters insurance cuz I’m not giving you any tenant rights

:/

So close to having a buddy

I seriously think I’ll be the only intern in Detroi

[hallow scroll]

figma

[ivory ocean]

Hell, I damn near went with NYC cuz fuck detroit

But I can commute

And then I make more than any other location by scamming

[south oak]

I did my c1 oa and got 777 early august, but still yet to hear back. Is there any chance for me?

[ivory ocean]

Wait Jack did you get winter Amazon???

[ivory ocean]

Yes

Actually I have no idea

I did mine early august too and I already did final

[jaunty cove]

thats a long time

i got 777 and got powerday 5 days later

[hallow scroll]

like a week i think i forgor

[south oak]

Yeah

[ivory ocean]

Yeah I got 760 and got powerday within 5 days too

[hallow scroll]

nope

[ivory ocean]

Sad

I really wanna do both

[south oak]

Also i put my grad date as 2025 so idt that helped but idk if its instant reject

[fathom hazel]

hate when they sent OA, then resume screening later 😐

[south oak]

Fock

[muted summit]

16 is usually good enough right?

[fathom hazel]

whats gca ?

[south oak]

I grad 2024 but made a mistake

Fuck me

[fathom hazel]

kl

[south oak]

Bro at this rate imma be at State farm again

[ivory ocean]

Lol I stopped caring

I straight sent my 760 c1 GCA to HRT

I didn’t get in

[south oak]

Also does anyone know if I can get interview at data bricks wirh 777?

[jaunty cove]

prob not

[south oak]

Yeah thats what I thought

💀

Im working on it

[fathom hazel]

use Overleaf for resume

Latex is much better than Resume Builder site

[south oak]

I made my resume on ppt

Are there any good resume scoring sites?

Like ats kinda stuff to see if I pass the screen

[south oak]

Yeah I was thinking about using latex

[fathom hazel]

def check for ats

[twin nexus]

has anyone had optiver SWE intern final round?

[fathom hazel]

maybe ask Serenity

[hallow scroll]

has anyone done hubspot phone

right after oa or whatever

hell yeah amazon lp still fresh in my mind

does that stuff actually carry on to other companies

like have backbone

yay

[fathom hazel]

same i can say all 16 of them and the order they belong

[hallow scroll]

💯

bruh wtf

lot of time to prep ig lol

oh yeah

amazon

apply to more winter places

did you apply to stripe

winter is discouraging im finna fail all my interviews i hate leetcode

I think samsara is MS research type shit

but probably good yeah for research based companies/roles

[fathom hazel]

at least u can use leetcode in your future job 🙂

[hallow scroll]

true

im dying

thats how

[fathom hazel]

why though ?

[hallow scroll]

i had that last year but not this year

everything in person

I commute too for a total of like an hour a day so it sucks

[fathom hazel]

it used to be 2 hours for me too, i bought a noise cancelling headphone to make the situation less bad

that's like, encouraging students not to come to class 😂

[mystic oyster]

anyone have any opinions on whether I should take Akuna internship vs AWS? Surprisingly, AWS pays me more. Is the "experience" at Akuna worth it?

[fathom hazel]

yes sir

[torn gull]

AWS

[fathom hazel]

sir deletes the message

[fathom hazel]

Akuna Capital

[torn gull]

imo #1 priority for internships is it increasing the strength of ur resume

[torn gull]

learning experience is obv v important but would not put that above this

[mystic oyster]

you would say that AWS is better than Akuna in that sense? For reference, I interned with AWS last summer

[torn gull]

is this for junior summer?

[mystic oyster]

yeah

[sick oar]

yeah akuna if you alr have aws

unless u wanna stay

[torn gull]

would u b satisfied with either for ft?

or do u plan to rerecruit for ng

[mystic oyster]

I don't think I would stay at Akuna ft

[torn gull]

hb AWS?

[mystic oyster]

a better chance

[torn gull]

then i would do AWS

i would only choose akuna if u were sure u wanted to rerecruit

since diversifying does add legitimacy

but in the case u would consider working ft at AWS and not at akuna

i would go aws

since its junior summer

[young silo]

Anyone know what Jane street first technical is like?

[mystic oyster]

sounds good, appreciate the advice

[tardy hornet]

what's the deal with riot

[golden tusk]

Akuna, opens doors to trading more and you may like quant finance later on, best to try things out, also AWS full time is sus too

[sinful locust]

akuna

if aws is paying more, ask akuna to increase pay

[mystic oyster]

already did, they refused

[sinful locust]

what

whats the pay

[mystic oyster]

$135,000 salary over 10 weeks

[late terrace]

what

[sinful locust]

thats not possible

[white urchin]

tf akuna paying less than amazon

[sinful locust]

its 135000 annual

[white urchin]

troll

[mystic oyster]

yeah, yearly over 10 weeks. I think I messed up my wording

[sinful locust]

ok so its about 65

what the hell is aws paying then

didnt know they pay > 60

[white urchin]

https://www.levels.fyi/internships/Akuna-Capital/Software-Engineer-Intern/

[mystic oyster]

I have housing in seattle, so I get to keep the juicy housing stipend, plus the extra two weeks comes out to a 4ish grand

[white urchin]

look at other datapoints

well there ya go

[sinful locust]

they negotiate apparently tho

[mystic oyster]

yeah, I was expecting $72 - $84 with akuna

[sinful locust]

im just interested why they refused

[white urchin]

not with aws

[sinful locust]

idk aws seems good enough to nego with

[white urchin]

why would akuna nego with aws

[sinful locust]

but makes sense

[white urchin]

nah they don't compete

[sinful locust]

so they only nego with quant?

[late terrace]

ask aws for more

[sinful locust]

or comparable quant

[white urchin]

they would probably negotiate with netflix

[late terrace]

they probably think akuna pays more lol

[sinful locust]

lol

[mystic oyster]

aws doesn't negotiate

[white urchin]

but i would take netflix over akuna

[sinful locust]

netflix > akuna any day

[white urchin]

ye lmao

[sick oar]

ask akuna for more

[sinful locust]

netflix probably better than good amount of quants

[mystic oyster]

already did, they refused

[sick oar]

say it’s close enough that you don’t see an obvious choice

oh

[white urchin]

i'd take netflix over any quant

[sick oar]

did you bite back

[sinful locust]

phrase it differently or something

[sinful locust]

yea thats fair

[mystic oyster]

well, I'm going to tell them I'm declining so maybe?

[white urchin]

but getting netflix harder than quant

[sinful locust]

idk bout that

probably hearing back is harder

[white urchin]

fr? I see more hrt and js offers than netflix

[sick oar]

u should say “i don’t see a reason to take akuna over aws given the pay difference (include housing etc). are you sure there’s not anything you can do? i’m leaning towards aws right now”

[sinful locust]

is there a possiblity they just take away offer if you say that

[uneven sand]

yes

[sick oar]

no

[sinful locust]

that seems too terse

[uneven sand]

companies can take away offers like that

it happens

[sick oar]

they wouldn’t lmao

that’s crazy

[mystic oyster]

good idea, I'll give them an ultimatum

[sinful locust]

id worry abt that possibliity

[uneven sand]

if they know you're not taking, they'll just rescind the offer to save time

[sinful locust]

yea

[sick oar]

no don’t give them an outright ultimatum

[sinful locust]

if you say something like that, id phrase it differently

[sick oar]

u gotta be nice about it

[sinful locust]

dont want to lose akuna,

[uneven sand]

say you prefer working for akuna but the pay difference is making it hard to take it over aws

[mystic oyster]

don't think it's a big issue, as I prob won't take them if this is all they pay

[white urchin]

bruh, say something like an increase in compensation would help in my decision to take akuna over aws

[sinful locust]

is pay the predominant factor for you?

or do you want to end up in big tech

[mystic oyster]

already did, recruiter went to the "leadership team" and they declined

[fathom hazel]

very

[uneven sand]

honestly akuna might be better for big tech recruiting

[sinful locust]

akuna seems like a better choice in general

[white urchin]

tf, then they just want another quant offer

[sinful locust]

over any big tech for intern, except like netflix

[white urchin]

just get another quant offer and renege on those cheapskates

[sinful locust]

if you get akuna, you can be confident you can get meta and shit

[mystic oyster]

don't know if meta is the move in this market 😂

[late terrace]

akuna ft pays more @mystic oyster

[jaunty cove]

isnt akuna more prestigious by along shot

[sinful locust]

aws seems like a shitshow ft

[mystic oyster]

I've heard differently, it's about the same

[white urchin]

prestige doesn't pay

[sinful locust]

prestige will get you better internships

[white urchin]

i've heard that akuna doesn't pay a lot for ft

[sinful locust]

whats a lot

[clever grail]

7 fig

[late terrace]

what’s aws? like 180 vs akuna 200

[sinful locust]

if they pay 250 - 300 in the first year or so, thats pretty damn good

[uneven sand]

akuna pays about the same for amazon if you compare amazon bay area to akuna chicago lol

[white urchin]

why work quant hours for akuna 230k

[mystic oyster]

they don't

[sinful locust]

they promote very fast

[uneven sand]

apparently akuna wlb is pretty good

[late terrace]

base *

[sinful locust]

team dependnet

[white urchin]

akuna doesn't pay anywhere close to 300k

[uneven sand]

yea ofc

but it's not like citadel or something where wlb is just w

[white urchin]

i got it from interns at akuna and ft

[sinful locust]

mm

[white urchin]

@mystic oyster go to quant server and ask

[uneven sand]

yea i've not heard of an offer near 300k

[sinful locust]

what are they making, like 100

[uneven sand]

i've only heard 200-250k

[sinful locust]

hence why i said within 1-2 years

[uneven sand]

didn't quant server get nuked

[sinful locust]

theres like 2 others

[white urchin]

there's another one

[mystic oyster]

anyone have a link?

[sinful locust]

ones invites disabled

[white urchin]

if you're looking for ft pay, akuna isn't miles better than aws

so it matters whether you want tech or hft

[sinful locust]

sidgau are u a senior

[uneven sand]

it is chicago tho

[late terrace]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ouhipxVmF-ORMzfhTvf8uWY3OVRaXfAxKtSWnucukVk/edit

[uneven sand]

akuna feeds into good quant firms

if you're into that

[sinful locust]

exactly

[mystic oyster]

current junior

[uneven sand]

that looks outdated lol

[sinful locust]

I see

I'd choose akuna

[uneven sand]

how is citadel 280 fy, 230 recurring

[late terrace]

yea it is

[sinful locust]

thats just me

[late terrace]

i think 2 years old

[sinful locust]

Just ask them again to bump pay

[late terrace]

salaries have bumped a lot since covid

[sinful locust]

so has inflation

[white urchin]

decision is really easy
you want hft for ft: akuna

you want tech: do akuna

[uneven sand]

^

[sinful locust]

yep LOL

yepge

[white urchin]

because no way you go back to aws for ft, lets be honest

[uneven sand]

if you're looking for return offer: probably aws

[sinful locust]

akuna gonna get you faang anyway

theyre freaknig ghosting me

[hearty river]

yahkuna will get faang this season

[white urchin]

akuna will help for tech too, so why not try HFT

[uneven sand]

yea my impression is that tech recruiters know about places like akuna

[hearty river]

@sinful locust

[uneven sand]

yahkuna will get faang this season

[sinful locust]

good

[uneven sand]

@hearty river

[sinful locust]

im probably rejected

[uneven sand]

VERY GOOD

[late terrace]

i believe in u

[sinful locust]

what happened to coinbaze

[uneven sand]

lockheed martin better

yes

[sinful locust]

lol

[true glade]

@hearty river

[sinful locust]

you like databaze

@late terrace does too

[hearty river]

COINBAZE

[sinful locust]

i wish akuna asked me sql queries

they didnt

[hearty river]

ibm > coinbaze

in my opinion

[sinful locust]

i studied the window functions and stuff

[late terrace]

coinbased

[jaunty cove]

who is the original yahukna matada

[hearty river]

me

[late terrace]

it’s old

[hearty river]

me im real im oridnal

im OG

[jaunty cove]

Who is yahkub then

[hearty river]

@zealous trail

[jaunty cove]

bruh

[uneven sand]

yes

[sinful locust]

oa?

[uneven sand]

oh not me

but people have been getting oa

[sinful locust]

damn

[uneven sand]

tho it doesn't seem to be many

[sinful locust]

hopefully they can push winter to summer

[uneven sand]

they can

[sinful locust]

still need to get final

[uneven sand]

not sure what stage you're able to push tho

[sinful locust]

i wonder if anyone is in the AI/ ML process

[uneven sand]

but my recruiter asked me if i wanted to move to summer

[sinful locust]

oh damn

is the move to ask before final or after

[uneven sand]

idk

not sure if they'd make you redo final

[sinful locust]

wouldnt make sense to me

[uneven sand]

if you want summer, id just move before final

[sinful locust]

hmm i might ask then

[vocal linden]

does anyone know how far out final interviews are scheduled for amazon

[uneven sand]

would make your process quicker bc seems like they're trying to figure out winter headcount stuff

[sinful locust]

that is true

how do i phrase it

i had a change of heart

[uneven sand]

it doesn't matter bc they'd be happy to move you lol

linkedin

[sinful locust]

makes sense

id be very happy with linkedin

[uneven sand]

idk

i haven't been rejected yet

[sinful locust]

did u get final

[uneven sand]

i did recruiter phone

idk if i got final

[sinful locust]

same

if my recruiter isnt capping i should know soon

[uneven sand]

my recruiter asked for final availability today but apparently most recruiters asked for that before the phone lol

[sinful locust]

yep

[uneven sand]

but it's been a week so my hopium is that they only reached out bc i have a chance of moving on

[sinful locust]

gl vexor

[uneven sand]

yea there's a generic form

[sinful locust]

are you doing g winter

[uneven sand]

my recruiter also asked me to send my availability straight to them to make things move faster

[uneven sand]

im in the matching pool but it looks like g winter is fucked

[sinful locust]

sheesh

[uneven sand]

there's very few projects and i heard they'll be prioritizing canadian co-op students

[sinful locust]

ah

[uneven sand]

like there's somewhere around 50 projects 💀

fall 2022 probably had around 150-200

google winter is closed lol

they closed august 19th ish

[sinful locust]

wow

[uneven sand]

summer applications open mid september

for winter they only open apps for a month

winter == spring

there's also fall but that opens in the spring i think

you could do summer and try to push to fall

yea

not july

i think may or june

actually probably not may

ill buy one off you for 5 quid

I NEED WINTER

im actually fucked if i don't get winter

i thought i could at least get amazon winter but they've been ghosting me for a month

mfs won't schedule my final

i hope that's not the case

[safe minnow]

Nah bro my recruiter let me move my internship to the moon

You gotta trust

[uneven sand]

the application said winter was possible

[safe minnow]

What

[uneven sand]

they were told "check back in a month"

maybe they don't have winter headcount yet?

i doubt they care about summer headcount since they mass hire for that lol

yes

they're looking for time travellers only

[warped dagger]

ssi asks: ban goku

[slow quarry]

god instabase recruiter is making me wait for my expedited rejection

today

he made me code the template code in cpp since he didnt have it + was tryna debug some stupid shit for map.count() and he didnt tell me after 10m

i did 2/3 parts and for the last part i gave a full explanation but no time to code

yea

behavioral went decent but imma guess theres no impact for thast

yea exactly

[white urchin]

how many lc in total

[slow quarry]

it was 1 OOD problem in multiple parts

[north vale]

Prep hu spot culture specifically not LP. They arent similar at all except in the most general sense. Hubspot phone is the hardest part of the process

[slow quarry]

yea

but basically graph shit

[fathom hazel]

noice

lol

[white urchin]

these guys better be the next google

[hallow scroll]

me doing frontend

😛

docusign and cb was but i think hubspot is JS trivia

I think so

or like idk language specific stuff

[bold barn]

why tf did roblox give me an interview IN NOVEMBER

[uneven sand]

wait fr?

[hallow scroll]

maybe 2

[uneven sand]

lol wtf

[bold barn]

i cant keep practicing LC for 2 more months

[uneven sand]

i got rejected anyway but i was hoping i could get winter

databricks interview is easy i heard

no it is

they ask standard mediums

probably

maybe ft interviews are harder

cit mediums

[slow quarry]

bro did u get a response yet?

[hallow scroll]

yeah

[slow quarry]

gabriella wont respond to me but will like commetns and make posts on linkedin

[hallow scroll]

oh youre talking about that my b but nah i havent heard from her yet

[hallow scroll]

fr I keep seeing her on my feed 💀

[slow quarry]

it isnt

[hearty river]

yo

[coarse crane]

@hearty river

@zealous trail

[static spindle]

whats lp?

[coarse crane]

You own your own product

[fathom hazel]

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/principles
memorize, eat, think, recite

[coarse crane]

Every team maintains their products and nothing else

[static spindle]

ah, I see

[fathom hazel]

i know Amazon really care for LP

[static spindle]

i forgot this existed lol, interview is next week

[fathom hazel]

man this dude created a startup and still talk about Amazon LP lol

[coarse crane]

It surprisingly comes up a lot

[fathom hazel]

bruh, go make a google doc right now

[coarse crane]

Even in meeting and shi

[fathom hazel]

create a story for each principals

[coarse crane]

Tbh as long as ur not a robot its prob fine

Since we’re both in this discord you prob are tho

[static spindle]

dont expose me like that what the fuck

[fathom hazel]

idk how much LP is for intern but they matter a lot

jobless robot

[coarse crane]

You get treated like an SDE1 so it matters equally. Don’t stress it too much tho

[fathom hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-robot-existence-purpose-gif-11201762

[coarse crane]

Fr amazon is awful don’t come here

😣

They do

[fathom hazel]

no give me the job, i need to make my mama proud, my ex jealous and my future gf trust me

[safe minnow]

Is working at gap as a swe a good name?

[coarse crane]

Its p good

[coarse crane]

Company is a little boomer tho

Yeah j a fair warning

Also no team match before offer

[safe minnow]

🤔 how would that affect the intern expereince

[static spindle]

why dont you like the zon?

[coarse crane]

Its j that most people are senior and virtual, you might not have super interesting work too. GAP builds EVERYTHING from scratch so they need a lot of overhead

I.e. their servers, ads, sites, …

Its p neat but you might be doing something a little boring

[coarse crane]

Nah i love it

I’m j playing

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-7212093

[safe minnow]

Ah, I value learning a lot. Will building everything from scratch be good for learning? And does boomer company mean outdated tech stack?

[coarse crane]

American Psycho

[coarse crane]

I mean probably

As always it depends on team

[safe minnow]

I see

[coarse crane]

I got good vibes from gap

I liked their interview process

RnD all the way

[safe minnow]

Did you reject an offer there or intern?

[coarse crane]

Reject offer, still liked them a lot tho

[safe minnow]

Ah I see

Do you mind if I dm?

[coarse crane]

Haha yeah i mean they build everything thenselves

Yeah sure

[jaunty cove]

I need gaptech

[violet kelp]

just noticed a linkedin recruiter viewed my profile a couple of days ago and still no response from them😔

[jaunty cove]

Gap tech gaps all other company

[clever grail]

i think they mean it was complete shit

[jaunty cove]

my mind is made up

[coarse crane]

GAP OR GTFO

[safe minnow]

Over Amazon?

[coarse crane]

FAANGG

[safe minnow]

[jaunty cove]

Maybe

its remote

[slow quarry]

no it isnt

itnernship is remote

theyll make u go onsite for FT

[jaunty cove]

Im talking about i ternship

[slow quarry]

basically a trap

its stilla a trap

[jaunty cove]

I wouldnt take a return offer from them anyway unless i had nothing else

[slow quarry]

if i wanted to do remote internship then id expect remote ft to be an option

[jaunty cove]

whats a higher paying remote internship

tho

[slow quarry]

are we talking during mandatory remote during covid or like rn?

[jaunty cove]

rn

[sinful locust]

trap trap trap

[slow quarry]

nuro and rippling then

cant think of anything close to those 2 for big tech that are remote and pay similar to them

[jaunty cove]

nightmare nightmare nightmare

[slow quarry]

atlassian is like 10 bucks lower and remote

[jaunty cove]

i will apply to those

[safe minnow]

Nuro is remote?

Wtf

[slow quarry]

dropbox is remote too butr even lower

[slow quarry]

soem teams are

[jaunty cove]

dropbox is cool tho

i would totally work there

[sick oar]

atlassian wins remote no?

intern pay is decent but full time is rlly good

[slow quarry]

for internship best remote wlb

for fulltime it would be linkedin

just bc of the growth at higher lvl

[sick oar]

ya i mean atlassian is a great place to start new grad imo

[sinful locust]

linkedin is best

[slow quarry]

agreed

[sinful locust]

no amazon is best

for vp product

remember

[sick oar]

vp product @ amazon

[jaunty cove]

vp product amazon

[sick oar]

im vp

of product

guys someone i work with wants to convert me from a vp of product (intern) into vp of product

they think i’m goated

[slow quarry]

lyft is remote?

their itnernships were on site

[sick oar]

ok hear me out

atlassian apm

192.5k starting

full remote

[slow quarry]

tf its that high?

[sick oar]

yeah apm is 200k

why y’all surprised

[jaunty cove]

how do u get past product manager resume screen

[sick oar]

apm is goated

no

google has same l3 for apm and swe

all apm pays same or similar to entry swe

[jaunty cove]

cringe

[sick oar]

apm intern is $1 less than swe intern per hour

same thing

[slow quarry]

bc atlassian swe pays a tiny bit higehr for that for SF and lwoer than that in seattle

[sick oar]

they diverge then apm passes

there’s way more opportunity for vp of product

at a high level

[slow quarry]

no way apm is higher than eng at a high lvl

[sick oar]

than vp engineering

yeah it is

vp/director product is 1.5-2mil

depending on which company

not really

most people are cs majors who would fall back on swe

you have the finance ppl who want to do apm

[slow quarry]

brother vp for swe is even more than that

[sick oar]

who are largely unsuccessful

and the tech ppl

which dominate

[sick oar]

not really

where u talkin

[slow quarry]

fb/g etc

[sick oar]

i’m not bent up with an extra 50k when i make 600k a year im fine not having to code

g product is way higher

at high levels

check levels

[slow quarry]

thats c suite

[sick oar]

yeah

but there’s fewer product ppl

ur competing with way less people

for that vp slot

u guys fail to realize

some engineering managers get caught up in politics

[slow quarry]

BRO THIS IS THE SAME FOR PM BC ITS MORE TALKING

[sick oar]

ur missing my point

some EMs stay at l7/l8 (principal or director level) for like 6-8 years

[slow quarry]

teh avg swe is not a vp

[sick oar]

vs an avg product will get promoted every 3-4 years

that’s the main difference and the reason EMs switch into PM

[slow quarry]

promos wont matter if u get paid less

[sick oar]

🤭🤭

the pay scales are basically the same lol

+-50k isn’t a big deal

tho swe probably has higher return if you do hft

[slow quarry]

brother

how is the grind going

after choosing meta over lyft/g

[slow quarry]

naw

for fb the pm bonus multplier is a lot less

would be similar to other companies

[jaunty cove]

this guy is vp product i trust his opinion

at amazon

[slow quarry]

ayy

[sinful locust]

i got offer

vp at amazon

[sick oar]

being a PM at meta is not the bar

i’ve heard it’s terrible

like legit terrible

[slow quarry]

perhaps poverty wages

[sick oar]

i’d say google is the bar for pm

while meta maybe for swe

[warm valve]

i got phone

I think theyre doing waves, they said I could either interview this week or late september

[idle briar]

Do you get a free house as a perk

[warm valve]

i think zillow is fully remote still

status in progress

[jaunty cove]

are hft’s just an advanced version of the steam bots who buy your tf2 crates for 0.03 cents before anyone else can

0.03$

[warm valve]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

probably in waves, idk too many people who heard back yet

I mean honestly there's no point worrying about this, intern process/resume screens feel random

don't fixate on one company, I just mashed apply to everything

[fluid haven]

they are permanently

[warm valve]

goat company

[robust kestrel]

what are odds i get asked dp for dbricks

[jaunty cove]

So interesting

i want to make my own shitty version of what they do to learn abou tit

[sinful locust]

@rustic topaz

[hardy patrol]

that wasnt my oa question lmao its just the example hirvue gives you to practice

my question was just as easy though ngl

[jaunty cove]

this is how a lot of competitive programming works

they give u a text file to parse

[hardy patrol]

iirc it was some sys.stdin or some shit

in the practice questions they at least loop through every line for you but its annoying regardless

50/50 ill get final tbh

nord/c1 would be nice to lean on if i dont get amz

[pseudo orbit]

charlie farlie

relax

youll be fine

[uneven sand]

still lyft ghost

[viral star]

Idk if it still has any prestige but I had my amz interview today

[sinful locust]

How long after OA does amazon respond?

[jaunty cove]

A long time or a short time or not at all

[viral star]

They asked me for my availability for interview a week after my OA

[viral star]

And the actual interview was scheduled 2weeks later

[jaunty cove]

They scheduled it for 2 weeks later or they responded 2 weeks later w the interview dats

[sinful locust]

ayoo what msft has security eng for first time!!!

[warm valve]

wait the nordstrom oa? mine was like parse a string on like an entrance threshold or smth

[lean pewter]

i took it last yr and dont remember the problem but it had somethign to do w parsing a string and editing a file a certain way

[hardy patrol]

so like as long as you pass that question with all test cases your gucci right

did the second interview so im ballin until i hear back

[lean pewter]

ya

[hardy patrol]

nice

did you land nord last year

[coarse crane]

Amazon

[violet kelp]

has anyone heard back from paypal?

after the OA

[static spindle]

not yet

[violet kelp]

how long ago did you finish the OA?

is paypal's not automated? for OAs?

[jaunty cove]

huh

[violet kelp]

about 1-2 days after

[storm tapir]

Does anyone have any info on Amazon NG application? Did they slow down hiring completely?

[coarse crane]

Amazon pays more and is virtual

[storm tapir]

Insider news or speculation?

Okay. But so far almost every intern got return offer right?

[static spindle]

7 days ago

paypal oa isnt automated

[muted summit]

ye i did paypal oa 7 days ago too and heard nothing back yet

[static spindle]

whats with amazon and bananas?

[storm tapir]

They give out free bananas in Seattle office.

[coarse crane]

Not even in the bay office

[static spindle]

aight brb finna renege every other offer i get

[jaunty cove]

No its not

[static spindle]

nvm i just remembered i have none

[jaunty cove]

not anymore

[static spindle]

is it full in person? or hybrid?

[jaunty cove]

Its in person

[static spindle]

no online days at all? 🤨

[coarse crane]

? Lmao

Brother im an amazon intern

[safe minnow]

You can renege every offer you get with no offers

[coarse crane]

There are fully virtual offers, maybe not this year?

Most teams never meet in person

Yeah most teams are either hybrid or fully virtual

None are fully in person

[static spindle]

im not gonna apply to hrt because I know ill renege regardless B)

[static spindle]

like 3 days in person 2 hybrid?

[coarse crane]

You guys are thinking of google

[safe minnow]

What are you reneging HRT for 🤔

[coarse crane]

I think

[jaunty cove]

Amazon application said in person

[coarse crane]

Weird

[static spindle]

american airlines 😻

[jaunty cove]

Its different next year

[coarse crane]

Gotcha

Strange

Idt my team is ever not going to be fully virtual

[jaunty cove]

whats harder, your internship or the average lc medium

[coarse crane]

Prob an lc medium

[static spindle]

i can see hardass ceos making things fully in person, like tesla. The JPMC ceo also wants to push to go full in person again, but idk if they ever will

yeah they are hardass xd

i think cap1 is planning on keeping remote option though

[uneven sand]

business majors are pricks

that's why

[coarse crane]

A lot of people will leave if remote is taken away but idt companies will care

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/09/07/andy-jassy-says-he-wont-force-amazon-workers-to-return-to-the-office.html

[uneven sand]

amazon based?

[static spindle]

seniors get to do whatever they want lol, so change probably wouldnt affect them

[coarse crane]

Yeah i was gonna say i haven’t heard ab going back to office

That would be detrimental

Sm people are virtual

[safe minnow]

Wait what's Jeff Bezos' position in Amazon rn

[coarse crane]

None

Ex-ceo

[static spindle]

this isnt jeff. fake news

[static spindle]

always the ceo in my heart

[coarse crane]

Yeah weird, maybe its j for interns

Idk

Even so your team isnt coming in omegalul

[uneven sand]

https://tenor.com/bB0af.gif

[jaunty cove]

alone in the office sounds nicr

[coarse crane]

You dont have to go to office

Also they pay for ur uber to go in

[static spindle]

this sounds depressing xd

[static spindle]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[astral dew]

They finna snag all the employees lmao

[coarse crane]

Yeah i just use office for gym 😭

[uneven sand]

i wish they would snag me

[coarse crane]

You get $280/mo

[static spindle]

is the gym ever crowded?

[coarse crane]

Nah its an amazon office lmao

[static spindle]

makes sense xd

[astral dew]

More than what Uber employees get lol

[coarse crane]

The rest is taxed

But still free