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1 year MBA worth?
Thats bretty good
Anyone passed databricks technicals
Meanwhile get bs cs and make same tc in 1/4 the time
dbricks resume reject 
dont think linkedin oa is auto
i think theres some sort of light resume screen for it
Linkedin OA?
Definitely not light lol I haven't got anything 
Same
Anyone passed databricks technicals
hello
:deepmind: manifesting
do u go to a target school? how are u so cracked
i used to be good at math
and when college started i became worse
i was goated at ap bc calc š
its like after senior year of high school i stopped taking math classes
me thinking abt topological sort with this diagram
this. i lost a lot of motivation now lol
im at 300 and idk i just dont wanna do it anymore lol
legit i find bs a lot more fun nowadays
what year are you?
so you would be transferring as a junior and would be very difficult
probably not worth
are there offers that I can't renege? or can I renege any offer I accept
apparently duolingo?
yes girs
Classes def diff. My instructor for ds taught at princeton and said berkās deprtment guidelines much more rigorous. He said at least 40% more work for same class compared to princeton
I can find lecture from last yr if yall dont believe me
does meta referral help at all
So thereās a fine line bw wasting students time and actually learning
Feel like my school for some classes is just unecessary work, and its hard to make time for more creative things when school work becomes p high
Schools may teach same thing, but assignments vary drastically
I lov brown
Whatās open curriculum?
open curriculum sounds so amazing
Basically brown lol
@hearty river
yea and a lot of LACs but thats pretty much it
U tech ically can still do that w audit
If ur saying no gpa
Thatās basically audit
@inner kernel any tips for citadel phone?
š
why didnt u go
I thinj mit >>> for eng
but CS stuff isnt everything
Like p easy mit choice unless u goy other reason
For me it was between penn and berk, and tht was p easy being in state
i heard harv cs used to be shit but its gotten better recently
isnt putnam entirely mit
go harvard
Has literally anyone successfully moved amazon offer for summer 23 to winter or fall 23? I have an offer but really don't want to take it for the summer
fuck
bruh why can't they trade me for you lol
Yeah I did but no response yet
i was talking about individual oops
Why the fuck did they post the app as summer fall winter if they were gonna place everyone summer lmao
@inner kernel are you ever planning on cross registering
Im joking, some one identified some guy on this server
@sleek pike stop identifying people
too many freshman
come back to campus
renege ur internship
?
yo
NUS
TIM THE BEAVER
š¦«
JOHN THE PILGRIM
citadel definitely seems to resume filter for different things compared to js ime
one of my friends got citadel interview every year but never js, and inverse for me till i got referral
yea i was cmu cs with 3 faang internships and got resume rejected from cit every year lol
had to get referral to finally get interview
do u TA by any chance? i have a hunch some companies care about that way more than internships
JS cares
they love it
i think i have u added on linkedin
maybe
maybe
either way theyāre all bad
gotta make ur own startup
why
do google x
google brain
ML
no
thatās amazon
where u donāt *
where u can chill basicslly
google def not 8 hrs a day depending on team (can be way lower)
yo
just get google now
lol
true ig
well 2s is not representative lol
of all quant
itās better wlb
true
both are good
do you know how much does 2s new grad pays? I have seen all sorts of numbers
oh i thought it was iver 300k+
2s is around 300k ft including signing
what about the company u started
radix sort
@hearty river sort
for return itās like 450 probably
asked some citsec guy
or near 500
I heard 2s is around 300k first year, 250k recurring
i know standard and negotiated ft from last year
not too up to date on this year but prob hasnt changed by too much
@inner kernel thereās a guy who rejected citadel and negotiated google
in the server
kinda itās more than that
their citadel offer was around 300k i think
also they negotiated Bloomberg with citadel and then google with Bloomberg
if u have multiple companies use them to make one high counter offer with msftfor exampke then use that to increase google then use another high offer. basicslly if you want to negotiate u need high enoigh offers in the first place
last year cit un-negotiated was 375k
but they will match anything
standard external
Google wonāt budge with HFT offers, they tend to just tell you they canāt match that lol
If you wanna nego with google, you need other tech companies not HFTs
ive yet to see an offer cit hasnt matched lol
Only Meta will attempt to try and match Cit
rentech
Oh idr
meta wlb is like 45+ hrs/week if ur trying to get promoted at a decent rate
meta doesnāt even negotiate for new grad
thatās to be promoted at a decent rate
Donāt be sad because sad spelled backwards is das and das not good
honestly im not entirely against this outlook for first few years
i think? but iām talking about teams
at least they are being up front about it
anyone asked for refers to HRT?
for swe tc progression most likely yea
at this point i feel like cap 1 gonna run out of spots by the time i interview bruh
their booked till november
they just directly send me the OA link, but I haven't filled any application...
š
yeah they probably choose before u even know
based on which end of the company likes u
wait are u doing citsec QR?
oh
u probably do
ur underestimating urself
based off of how you performed this season so far
maybe for QR
SWE youāve done well
itās literally just prob and math
i feel like trader is best if both worlds
like in between
algo dev hrt
just go down the SWE path
if ur after less work
research is hard
and never will get easier
which quant ask SD?
system design
and do any ask niche stuff like OS networking compilers
cause thay could be annoying
af
hrt asks a lot of this kind of stuff
yes
smh gonna have to grind everything then
bruh
canāt u just say no

and still pass
loll
i think as long as u dont put it on ur resume or something most companies will be ok with u not knowing some of those stuff
ah interesting
just say so you wanna do a bit of sharding here
with some bits
yeah
thatās why never put C++

unless u actuslly can get questioned on it
smh
ayo ur back

they passing u back and forth

yo refer me to google
oh howās it work
still not found a fit for u idk
oh
idk
my intern manager got promoted in his first half whilst working <= 35 hrs
hes also waterloo + 6 big n internships
idek if google negos with two sigma/cit lol
One of us 
they nego hard with big tech tho
Google wonāt match HFTs
yea lol
yo
They will straight up tell you āWe canāt match that, accept their offer insteadā
@inner kernel hm whats ur background
heās a english major
quora tech lead >>>
2s new grad hits 400k now i think
id rather take that than 996
wdym by nicer
working from 9am to 9pm 6 days a week
LOL
Nah 2s >>> citadel
Thereās a reason why itās called the sigma male grindset, not the citadel male grindset
no im desk dev
beta male == QR
I think 2s more clout
i think citadel treats its interns the nicest out of every firm for sure
ive talked with some cit ft'ers and they are all jealous of the shit interns get
lmfao yeah
if you get IMC (they have signing)
cit will nego for intern
LMFAO
idk bro ur just smart
thats it
Tf
LMFAO
Based on what
sheesh
IQ diff
ok but ppl who come from math backgrounds
arent u at MIT lmfao
probably can transition easily to cs
now is the best time to learn functional programming then
before u learn bad things like mutability
functional programming š¤®
hype for types
bro lets see ur LC stats
lol
yoo are u cmu lol
idk bro ppl r just built diff
yeah
nah lol
heās done 140 something LC
my friend likes PL @ripe slate
wdym by this? it doesnt have like a finance bro culture or anything, its super chill
we have a student-taught class called "hype for types"
and people only have 1 manager for the most part
I was just there this summer and it was literally the most relaxed shit ever
people were pulling up at 1pm
maybe different for quants but the swes seem to be relaxed af there
didnt intern so dont know much about it yet
playing ping pong on work hours and stuff
and no one wears formal clothes or anything
citsec has better culture than citadel
2s got good weed
starting in 4 days so i will have all the knowledge then
i was in houston so we werent allowed to use the stash
texas laws 
stay off the weed
stop
duh
weed bad
L why would you ever be in houston
I wouldnt by choice

yo @sinful locust
yo @sinful locust
@sinful locust yo
isnt houston for their freshman internship program
yo juda
yeah
good shit
did u get the classic order book question
which one?
isnt optimal for order book hash map -> dll?
L
js lets u just convert it to fulltime and postpone it indefinitely
alternatively you could give it to me instead
LMFAO
dm him
he has dms off
i dont want to
all I need is a letter
I was one of the freshman interns
i dont think half the google recruiters know what js is
yea i think if u email recruiter and headcount is available at most theyd make u do like 1 round
altf4
yo
also like if u passed interview once
u can prob pass again
so i wouldnt worry about it that much
yea i agree with that
why
js > bc ocaml >
better to experience more options
isnt it risk with js, or do they just expedite
and with js offer locked in will help with nego hrt later if u want to go back
assuming u get return
Emily
perhaps
yes
woah doxxed
i know what school woah goes to now
citsec >>>>>> hrt
didnāt woah already doxx his school
hrt doesnt have ken griffin
someone from my school took citsec over hrt ng
from people ive talked to i think hrt comp progression isnt as great as some similar firms
eah
jump is fucking insane
does jump hire people outside of illinois
yeah
whats jump crypto like
insane
bonuses?
@6ix
amazon
ncr

yea none of these companies are that much better than each other in the long run

do hrt off-season
its also not a lifetime commitment
and you got that one
didnt they slash js returns
50% or something
i thought js didnt
someone said
they slashed hrt returns
hrt got fucked
hrt core return is much lower than past years
@placid tapir
algo teams seemed to be fine

not for 2s, Ive only gotten like 5 OAs out of 20ish
but only one rejection
so some more might come later
I got citadel, drw, imc, optiver
any phones?
js resume rejected
yeah for cit and drw
nice
imc did the video thing recently, optiver havent done the oa yet
dont even think I want to go to any of them except opt and cit tho
isnāt IMC and optiver auto OA
Any1 hear back from jump after phone

probably
aquatic and js resume rejected
oh also got hrt, but yeah thats bot too
hows recruiting looking
did they slash swe?
cit OA is auto I think
i cannot get tech interviews for the life of me
I mean if u get js reject u prob will get hrt reject
I didnt do OA, recruiter reached out
gave me phone
i have been resume rejected from bloomberg, microsoft, figma, stubhub, databricks
Cit oa not bad
oh cool
not a single tech firm
how difficult is js final swe
cit phone easy af
i have a final with like half of the quant firms in existence scheduled tho
Alr reject from msft wtf
yeah it doesnt guarantee you much, I think cit is more valuable tho
No its hard
@plain egret's getting better stuff than I am
it's hella random
@sinful locust nj getting jane street
yahkuna stop
I guess I got unluky
seriously
beast
I got an easy medium
i heard you got JS
Keep going with it
I got hard lc
so ig itās rng
that's goated
Killed me
optiver probably auto but takes a long time
Optiver is auto
i didnt get rejected by aqatic yet
matt godbolt likes you
i litearlly worked on godbolt at hrt
2s š
and i got resume rejcted
everyone getting return offers
I need some hoes
if idont get jane street i'll be unemployed
yahkuna matada
Bro there are other jobs out there
i told you i cant get tech interviews
Maybe its ur resume
if I donāt get citadel ken griffin will be unemployed
i literally only have quant interviews rn
how far are u in the process?
if i dont get into one of them i will unironically be unemployed
only phone coming up
U got one most people dont even get one
how tf
yeah but this doesnt mean i get tech interviews
ok
so unless ig et these hard to get into firms
hypsm is actually goated
i wont have a job
yeah but you ahve to realize qunat firms arent guarnateed
tech is so boring
it is
tech is more interesting
Both are boring
do math
and it was more chill, less hours
School and work boring asf
no way quant can be more boring than my tech internships
no way quant can be more boring than my quant internship
ur role proejcts seemed a lot more fun
n3 how was amazon
n3's the CTO of rentech
no thats simpryaser
does sig blacklist
@zealous trail hows akuna
stop
yes
am curious
no one seems to know
itās good apaorently
for QT
like pretty good
itās doable for sure
no bc they retire at 27
lol
lebum
lewhy
for c++ python and qdev combined?
for QR + QT
and data tooling and data infra and ml ?

so many dev teams
stop
also what if some guy was shit and did no work
they need a ligament healer intern
go to sleep
prosthetic foot intern
baller was the only UI intern for akuna btw
LMAO
lechet
i think OKC will flip
yeah he got the offer
flop
yeha he got offer
stop
chet couldn't even handle a 37 year old lebron drive at 30%
ft pay doesn't seem any better than faang
they only hire one intern
yeah akuna ft seems pretty shit
but good intern pay
no
would u work at three cents
nego but 65 starting i think
do people go from akuna to better quant firms
probably, why?
seems like yahkub went back to tech after
akuna intern -> every other firm is biggest pipeline in quant
well palantir is good
2nd tier
oh shit didnt realize that
just sort by pay
Rentech > JS HRT > CIT > others > akuna
well there are the unknown ones
tgs
pdt
levels is wrong lmao
for lots of things
is it
like sig swe is bad but
sig trader is very good
levels probably doesnt reflect that
i think they have a trader filter now or smth
Tier 0 Deepmind, Open AI, FAIR, Google AI
Tier 1 Netflix, Waymo, Jane street, Google
Tier 2, HRT, Citadel, 5R
Tier 3 Twitter, Reddit, GitHub, Robinhood, DoorDash, Uber, Lyft, Cruise, Dropbox, Coinbase, Scale AI, Discord, Airbnb, Square, Snap, Two Sigma, Roblox, Pinterest, LinkedIn, Stripe
Tier 4 Microsoft, Bytedance, Amazon, Salesforce, Snowflake, Splunk, Dropbox, Slack, NVIDIA, Atlassian, Asana, Docusign, Spotify, MongoDB, OCI, Roku, Apple, Twitch
Tier 5 Yelp, Oracle, Tesla, Twilio, Shopify, Adobe, Bloomberg, Expedia, Riot Games
Tier 6 Goldman Sachs, Wish, Unity, Cloudflare, Etsy, Palo Alto Networks, Niantic, Pure Storage, Qualcomm, Paypal, VMware, Nutanix
Tier 7 Intel, Cisco, IBM, JP Morgan, eBay
Tier 8 Accenture, Cognizant, Infosys, TCS
bro stop
google lol
mfw deepmind is the best quant firm
google > hrt confirmed
rigby is legend
right has good perception
turn on dms to get some perspective
he does not indulge in drugs
I have dms off
lol
why
tho
makes no sense
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yahkub
how was chicago tho
did u enjoy interning there
IBM wtf
im pretty sure akuna might actually pay interns more than their full timers
doubt
66 -> 136k ft
if you factor in bonuses and over the time period
it could happen
nice
interns dont get great bonuses accordint to levels but its probably wrong so idk
its not imc with like 20k signon
oh nvm then
a lot of those arent real
google x or brain and facebook AI research
like 2s was reported to have 10k sign on + 7500 bonus last year
that was complete bs
X recruiters arre great

NOW
imc and drw mostly for practice, optiver i might actually consider
LOL
thing is 2s full time doesnt seem great in terms of progression from what i see on levels
also 2s didnt increase intern salary by much but the others mightve
tbh if you want good pay and great wlb 2s seems top notch
so I figured I should go try
WIPE
now
no I meant for return this year, theyre paying less than that as a bonus
so theres no shot they gave 10k less this year than last year
lol
10k is crazy bonus
my recruiter also told me they didnt do a sign on bonus last year
he said they did just a completion bonus, this year its just a sign on
so what are IMC real bonus
maybe one guy negotiated that bonus
theyre still paying u in fall right
but I would be surprised if theyre giving 20k to everyone
what
imc seems pretty similar in wlb to 2s but not sure how much better they pay
didnt u say something abt non compete
that only applies if I get another offer and they prevent me from working
ah
i heard they pay 700k
bruh stop
IMC gives that bonus if you have competing offers iirc
no its cisco
if anyone knows deepmind tc that would be very cool
cisco is #2 in my book
yeah I think thats where a lot of the numbers on levels about bonuses become bs
then SAP
20k sign on
baller tell @hearty river yo stop lurking
@fringe pumice
HES LURKING
A friend of a friend had Akuna offer and they told IMC that and they were like "we'll give you 20k if you sign rn" 
intern*
STOP
no way
wtf
YAHKUNA STOP
wait I can use my 2s return to do that
lol
imc probably >= akuna then
every quant > akuna
holy
pipeline hits hard tho
mans really looked at levels and said "yeah let's do that"
oh pog
youre gonna end up at palantir š¤®
zamazonnn
time to grind for imc then
war crime ass company
Yo
can confirm amazon -> quant pipeline 
amazon and meta are probably most common pipeline to quant companies
ask dracos abt meta
FT?
intern i assumed
seems like most places are recomp
DRW pays fat?
from intern -> intern/ft
ohh yeah iāve heard
They don't sponsor so I'd have to work at the Montreal office 
how long does drw take after phone
i think someone said js recomps? not sure
and hrt
anyone here that didnt get rejected by desco lmao
is drw phone -> final?
Cit hasn't responded to me so I'm emailing recruiters with Akuna offer 
do you nego final rounds or only offers
did you do your final yet
lmao
ill do that
no?
yeah
its not ass
its pretty ass
their application is ass
@amber swift
walmart
hudson river trading
jane street
valkyrie
valkyrie trading is the best no cap
google is only more than 20 if you have competing offer
vanguard
someone process valkyrie offer
why do they fly people out for onsite in chiccago
no they increased it to 22 this year
for hcol
idk, i just know that theyre not good
bu they fly you out for onsites apparently
which is cool
its virtual?
lol im gonna apply just for that
oh wait someone nego'd an onsite in chicago bc another one was in chicago
so its not regular
i was so excited to fly out for onsites and then covid hit during my first recruiting cycles
its belvedere
never got to fly anywhere sadge
dont
i wouldn't like flying out bc it's going to be a shit flight home once i get rejected
llc or sec
its ok im flying to nyc in 2 days anyways
Someone else is being flown out to NYC for Cit
when rippling start
yee first day monday
if you go into LLC without knowing the consequences u deserve whats coming for u 
sep 12 sadly
i applied to rippling twice today š
cant refer
no worries
i got some special event link
sad they didnt ask about competing processes
š¦
they move fast
is it oa -> phone -> final?
for itner yea
or idt i had phone
oa -> final
i put platforms and risk as my highest choice
Hmm one of his interviewers was QRE so maybe he was doing trader or qr
if they move fast thats good
swe qt qr?
like the fucking fat chicken which is like dark souls difficulty but the reward is amazing
Good Quality Samosas
whats qre?
id go gqs qre just for exp tbh
deeeeep
ur not bitchboy swe
yea if it was swe gqs then easily sec but ur qr
same
dont decide anything based off guilt lol
they r looking out for themselves u gotta lookout for urself and urself alone
facts
808s and heartbreaks
In the night I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul to a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
Oh, how could you be so heartless?
woah, time to wipe messages
good night
if upside is good enough 50 hrs a week is worth when ur young imo
ur a bitchboy in LLC swe bc hedge fund and finance oriented, ur less of one in sec bc its eng oriented and market maker and goal to automate everything
amex -> JS pipeline yahkuna
yahkuna give me referral to lockheed
bro yall breaking into quant gotta refer me next year mfs aint passing me for resume screen 
ill try to get that optiver bag š
dracos did u schedule your linkedin phone
optiver referral is like opening a chip bag for oxygen
heys guys, i will crack 150k new grad in canada inshallah
normal swe
interns told me it guaranteed passing resume screen, oa a shitshow tho
dracos give us your take on the oa again
did oa 12pm phone 4pm and filled out msft office form for final idk if ill get it after that?
i just wanna say i love and appreciate everyone of you
Amazon is like 175k first-year tc
3 days did it with help of ex opriver eng and rejected
wait so if you get matched to llc you can't do anything about it?
even better
You got this 

@uneven sand how liong did it take for carissa to schedule final after karat
i have my phone on monday but idk when to do my final im rusty at frontend apparently its hella javascript trivia
this is for duo right
does garda capital pays well to swe?
hr phone???
yeah
i gotchu man, if i get amazon OA iāll be dropping some halal musicš„
lmaooo
recruiter said it was dsa tho?
fr?
she said frontend was dsa apaprantly lol?
does garda capital pays well to swe?
did karat sunday, final invite wednesday
I asked a frontend intern and they said it was js trivia and coding a frontend component
bruh wtf do i studyyy
why stress so much, don't you have Amazon offer?
javascriipt.info i guess it is 
winter
- its linkedin

bro if its actually js trivia then imma ask to push this back another week lol
when linkedin oa
yeah same im gonna ask in the hr call and see if I get something different but
maybe ill email a recruiter saying i have finals coming up
@hearty river stop lurking
people wouldnt stop pinging mods to ask for roles
so we got rid of the one good thing u ingrates had
actually this is what yahkuna looks like
Stop
yahkuna loves this gif guys
@hearty river
I've heard linkedin recruiters would ghost you anyway lol
damn
Do you have any linkedin recruiter emails tho?
no
just their linkedin profile
i remember one of the recruiters that made the intern job post
Goid point!
not a ton of leetcode, they care about emotional intelligence a lot, very very selective (10 NG this year??)
i think so
actually probably 25
my friend who's ng there said there's like 20 people in sf and 4 or 5 in nyc
Yes
I botched figma oa tho 
Spill? š
figma balls
is getting 1 robot per track enough to pass roblox cognitive oa?
if 720 codesignal is enough anything is enough
enough to get rejected 
did u find more than 1 robot on each? i tried so many things and nothing worked lol
Software isnāt massive
WhatsApp had 50 engs handling hundreds of millions of users before being bought
Relative to the value these companies provide
into what
figma balls
Any1 hear back from jump after phone?
not better than n3
n3 is US comp sci grad right ?
Damn Im still waitin
Wtf is that
Damn
Get it next time
Is accenture good I signed up for resume review a while back and got sent a link to apply that says I get priority interviews or some shit. If it isnt I might just give it to my friend
Says that
is that bank c1
no they scheduled mine for sep 9 lol
im scared they'll ask a lc hard lol
is it standard questions?
ic
yea my phone followups were nonstandard come to think of it
how is ood
do they give you the specification?
and you just create a class that can do those things?
yea not talking about them straight up giving the method signatures lol
what language did you do it in
my only worry is that python's oop is a bit more limited
ok cool
oh interesting
maybe ill use cpp then
i used to do lc in only cpp lol
i only recently switched to python
did you get the followup?
oh shit
i suck at math lol
the one where you have points on a grid and you count number of squares you can make?
lol my queries were linear when i solved this
that's probably not ideal

why were u talking to yourself š
bc i suck at math
Whenās ur clitadel final
im doing it rn
i just got asked design and code facebook
You have to build Facebook within 1 hour?
yes
U mean plan it out. Not code
i hope not š
lol my schedule is so packed for the next 2 weeks
why did i apply to rando companies
i have interviews with sentry and convoy and idk if i'd ever take them

