#2023_summer
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for big N yeah but its not a good representation of most engineers, that pay is extremely good for most people but the people here have a skewed definition of what good TC is
mclean virginia
When did 120k become low, isn't that high for any non-tech companies 
Cheapest house in that county is 1.2 mil
I’ve heard
It’s the richest county in America
America
120k in Dallas would be good though right?
I mean like if they did a google search they can figure that out lol
true, but they should really do the research
Lol, not at all predatory. It's on the intern to do the research.
Predatory is an overstatement. This internship pays a ridiculous amount and then new grad pay still isn't bad.
I heard a rumor that C1 intern pay this year is like 75/hr, does that mean that they're gonna raise their new grad pay too
Imagine getting a pay cut as a new grad 
C1 pays their fte and interns he same 💀
im gonna see what i have available if i get c1
like if i cant pass any other new grad intrerviews obv ill take c1
I think C1 interns would be able to get interviews at a lot of places
why does belvedere gotta be so cringe
getting the interview is one thing passing is another
14 probability and number probs in 25 mins
I turned down Google for c1 cuz they payed more per hour
bruh
ur prefrosh right
screw ethics
yea apply trading lmao
ethical or not i will not hesitate to renege if i get a better offer
the roblox cognitive test is so bad bro
it was fun
cause theyre stupid af
they know they wont get the best talent ft
so they ll bait with intern
ill know that fs if i get offer from intern 
c1 sucks
you guys are talking about this 2 much go leetcode or something
go study system design
i should actually
same dw I have a list of problems I need to do before tomorrow and theres like 25 left but im too lazy
whats tomorrow
idk I opened their oa and closed it
oh yea
amayon
im not gonna do the frontend
sheesh gl
yall got this
i gotta do lik 10 tagged for c1
I didnt even ask for it 
Why are C1 tagged questions so wack
I try for like 10 mins then look at solution
Like the rhombus question
Yeah I'll send it
aight thanks bro
some ppl might just take c1 just for the full time offer to have a jobv
but then job hop
Dont get me started on this one
@woven quest were u able to change ur starting season? im trying to see if i can as well
I'm trying to do the rhombus q right now and idk how I would have reacted to seeing this in an interview for the first time 
lmkk if u get any updates pls 🙏
When I saw how it was approached it made a lot of sense but if I got that in the interview I'd leave
Same amount as interns 💀
bruh i want to bleach my eyes from this problem

👋
oh shit I got that for q3 codesignal once, quit immediately
lmaooo
true
c1 is bait
please dont take ft without considering
at least hrt pays

idk if ill say paying more intern than ft is unethical but its damn sure crappy af
yea lmao thats such a sad flex
ok from that angle fair
I mean to be fair, C1 as a FT still will pay more than my current company’s FT
id say for early on internship its great, but do TC research and dont aim there ft if you can
aight bruh
gotta repeat everything again
go for it
i like this cfed guy
L3 should get paid less than interns
lmao
theres a certain degree that comes with being a FTer at a compny
if C1 is smart, they should know that theyre breeding early talent for other companies
but they dont
Do most C1 interns do FT somewhere else?
also swe at bank is just painful in general
i would think so
and yea should
agreed
but its still somewhat on company onus
shouldnt be doing it on first place
we just said
:troll:
pay ideally should be a measure of how much they respect and what they do for the company
like
why pay managers more
if youre paying interns more than ft its just wrong, your value priority is wrong
absolutley
obv higher level deserves better pay
if u have no other job offers and c1 what do u do
this is quite a crappy situation
but in general everyone should be paid a livable wage
yea c1 is liveable while ur single maybe sure
is slack down
but thats not rly the question
yeah ofc
no
like cisco is with their caste system bs
lmao
lmao
facts
its not that simple
never black and white
really
srsly
AFAIK Capital One is paying interns the same rate as full-time
there could be a lot of things stopping
demographic, other issues
slightly
do we agree it is offensive
"Predatory" 
Can u send to me too - or is it the leetcode bot
Bruh it’s really not that deep 💀 it’s not unethical because 1. Just because you intern there doesn’t mean you’re forced to work there after grad 2. FT workers can leave at any time to another company if the wage bothered them so much and I bet most of them know what the interns make anyways
You can leave whenever you want but that also means you’re super replaceable
meh not worth ur time
And the market isn’t in the best spot there aren’t as many positions as there used to be.
byebye
The LeetCode bot is outdated I'll send you the new one
I appreciate u
you’re not always gonna have a better offer
A company can structure its salary progressions however it wants just like the employee is volutarily working for the company, incentivized by a salary. If the FT pay is low, who cares? Just go somewhere else like?
and switching out jobs constantly is a great way to show companies you don’t fit anywhere
i guess c1 just counts tip interns same as new grad tdps
maybe what youre saying only applies to traders idk 
no problem w that
the recession hasn’t even hit fully yet lmao
yeah but that’s the problem - uncertainty
Eh as long as you’re a competitive applicant I don’t think you need to worry about job placements that much during a recession
dude im so worried about the recession though
i had an internship last year, and i was really hoping finding an internship this year would be easier
applied to so many companies (40+) and havent gotten anywhere thus far
as in I just get OAs and get ghosted
like cmon bruh 💀
yeah its not like c1 is lying to u
its more of here u go if u want it stay if u dont find another job
And the return offer they're getting is a six figure offer, calling it "predatorial" is funny
imo yes
It's only August bro, plenty of time
So c1 salary not unethical since you know what you’re getting paid
ig im just freaking out, i really thought id get a first round interview for every 30 or so companies i applied lol
it also depends if they give a shit ton of qualifications and no pay its def unethical
40 isn't that many
i think the C1 thing is gonna harm them more than benefit them if people know they’re not going to make more full time
im talkin abt the ones that try req a bunch of exp
I know yall directing this to C1 but lets be honest here all companies are unethical in some way so this convo's going nowhere
21 or youngboy
if ur not being paid u pretty much have nothing to lose
Yeah every company has its issues
Like I think inflating total comp with stock bonuses is super misleading
online
u can always decline the promotion
And most companies do that
tf
Yea ik what you mean. But some companies don't even move past OA stuff until September. I wouldn't worry too much yet
they often overwork you yet you arent paid for the work you do
1 interview and 2 final interviews. y'all pray for me. I really need my first internship 😭
what companies?
c1, amazon, and rbi
damn
company that owns burger king, pop eyes, and tim hortons
its in michigan too
@rustic topaz did u get a technical??
lmo
lie lie lie 🤣
if u didn't im applying
no
lmao
they said there are multiple rounds
and there is a technical round
nah just depends per company
ye lmao
yes
Bro I legit don't remember appying to them lol. Just google rbi
I was applying for everything on june
hoping I would get a summer 2022 internship
Like I expected to get an internship for this year by applying this year 💀
until @hallow scroll told me it's too late
😭
yeah gotta start nice and early
if you already have 3 interviews you're gonna get one
it's not even september
Bro I doubt I'll pay amazon or c1 😭
Bro most people legit don't know about that company 💀
Ima go study
I keep wasting my time
lmaoooo
?????
goku
DRW fucked up my application
TIP
just aced the onsite
@rustic topaz did u apply with a cover letter 💀
i wish
i go to the best school right under stanford tho
northeastern 😈
o ye northeastern university silicon valley campus 💀
but it's 9999% not
ture
sorta
yea bro we got "offcies" worldwide
true but neu has like
campuses EVERYWHERE
tsinghua is one of the best
Sooooo true
Best college is ucr
#1 baby
Stanford is an F tier school
umbc
Your college?
That’s called personal bias
Hamburger university sounds pretty cool
YahkUniversity
texas institute of technology & science
Vexor institute of vexorcism
Uiuc is o good
What is a vexorcism
Is it like an exorcism
But with vexor
Is rbI good
bro I legit don't remember applying
lmaoooo
they own popeyes too
and
tim hrotons
say how chai is better than coffee
💀
Roti
@hearty river dreaming of cats
🫓
tell em how chicken tika masala is better than fried chicken
its tikka
I don't care
well i do, jk lol
jk lol
uve sent this gif 20+ times
fr this guy uncultured as hell
man says foenem grave 100 times
I need job 😢
fr tell him
Next summer
u got this
only 5 times
Hopefully thanks
add me back
no
do it
nah
np
no u
Guys who are done with Intuit’s first round OA - When did you hear after giving the OA?
does amazon send a confirmation email when you apply?
Yes
No
how long after you applied did you get it
i see, thanks
u hear back from akuna?
has anyone heard back from microsoft
hi
😕 applied with referral a couple of days ago
yo yo
baller gonna make it out the hood
I heard the capital one locations for this yr are SF, NYC, and Virginia
not too sure about the regular swe positions but for explore I'm pretty sure they dont do interviews until september
is it just me or is everyone interviewing with cap 1 this yr

I don’t think referrals help for Microsoft interns
^^
yeah that will
but all the recruiters posted on linkedin that referrals wont matter (not too sure if they capping or not though)
referrals can help in the sense that someone at the company vouches for u in what they right
those recruiters are saying that referrals wont give you priority
basically

I thought microsoft is chiller
they have a super day at the end for sure
nah no sys design
technicals + behaviorals

nah
but they ask OOD
virtual is so much easier
yeah probably
is there a way to prep for OOD
in person interviews stress me out
do popular ood problems
take ur school’s ood class

or some ood class
if ur school doesnt have one
thx
ye thats what I heard as well
Microsoft asks interns OOD problems?
I wonder if some of the team match interviewers gave ood curveballs
nop
lets be real
faang deals with too many apps for non leetcode
I got a question that wasn't leetcode last year at G
keep going
I mean g doesn't ask leetcode problems for the most part
like you cant find them on leetcode
it wasn't really leetcode style
ye
Does anyone know if Amazon will ask any hards for interns
it can happen but it’s rare
Aight thank you
how many days ago?
man amazon oa coding challenges are surprisingly easy
the workstyle assessment is challenging
yeah i heard the same
i feel like its hard to choose sometimes
for a lot its obvious
amazon oa is so weird
i did some greedy sols
like the greediest shit ever
and it worked for both
did anyone get the start/end date survey after accepting amazon offer? i have a few questions
thats deep
Opinions on gusto?
I got two HashMap questions, one with Math + Greedy on top of it
How long do people tend to wait for Amazon to respond to the OA result?
W company
good wlb and culture, solid pay
think of it like lower paying asana
5 days last year
anyone got any advice on how to prep for amazon OA
Agreed
Honestly I’m looking at levels and they’re hella competitive
Asana has a higher upper bound
But they’re close
That doesn’t
Seems super super cool honestly gusto my dream for next summer
Gusto op my friend in gusto sf rn and says work culture is awesome
Honestly, I think I’d rather do Denver than SF
Gustooooo
Exploring a city like Denver seems more interesting to me than a city like SF I dunno why
Maybe cause I’m from Cali already
And sf is just whateva
Yes
Asana 
Gusto doesn’t ask leetcode btw they’re kinda like stripe
Interesting
They do
Honestly I don’t like that lol
Only for online assessment
I prefer leetcode
The actual interview isn’t leetcode
I did the interview, it was leetcodey I broke it down into one
Oh ig it depends then
Something to do with HTML tags
But I broke it down into 3 leetcode problems
Merge intervals, building a string, and something else
Wrote test cases
Same lol
blind75
amazon tagged questions
read over amazon leadership principles
pray for good RNG
mostly pray
@stark basin do u kno if we can switch seasons when choosing the start/end date?
or is it still fixed to your season
doesn't look like you can
bruh, what company made you do shit with HTML tags that had you break it down into 3 different LeetCode problems
so it restricts you?
I just accepted today so I haven't gotten choose date email or anything yet so I'm not sure, might want to check with someone who has accepted
I just know my application has "Summer 2023" written on it
is there no mention of dates in the offer letter?
oh i see, same here, i was wondering if we could change it to fall 2023 on the start/end date survey or if we had to contact them
if anyone knows lmk pls 🙏
same thing
except more reading over amazon leadership principles
think up a three or five anecdotes that shows those principles for behavioral questions (They all start with "Tell me about a time you")
and again pray for good RNG in the coding
offer details on the application page says "Start Date: Jun 26 End Date: Sep 15" but someone told me apparently you'll get a start date survey or something
those dates work perfectly for me anyways though
got 2 that were easier than LC easys on the OA and 1 LC medium-hard on the final
guess we got lucky

not unheard of for LC hard in OA
fall semester at your school starts after mid Sept ?
interesting to do start dates after the offer is signed but ye thats what it seems like theyre doing 
we have quarter system
sheesh rng carried lets go

yeah finals I got a question I've never seen before
I had to keep pulling time complexities and possible data structures out my ass
i'm 70% sure I only got through because I pulled many data structures out my ass
they definitely don't have to be coding related
if you do get LC hard on the OA, can you submit non optimal solution and still get the interview
bring up your group project in high school or something is fine
yeah
so ig if LC hard the strat is to just brute force
if u cant think of optimal in 15 min
well brute force first anyways I don't think they care about time used
just do very well on LP and BS the coding lol
it was LC medium definitely yeah
i never found it though
I can tell you my friend got Add Two Numbers and Diameter of Binary Tree
alright ill try after i get the survey if im not able to
yeah
not a good thing to suck at

you'd probably be fine sucking at DP
i got 1
he got 2
i probably got 1 cause I got a bit stuck
well I immediately got the brute force and said its time complexity
but going for a more optimal I didn't immediately hop on the correct answer or anything, had to get a hint or three
hey could you send me the list too?
Sure
how much is cap1 paying this year
less competition
40$
a lot of cap in that one statement
man
idt cap 1 gives a fuck abt ur score
I am trying lower the competition
i only got 1 question and i got final
ik
cap1 trolled me so bad
😆
i was surprised as shit when i got the email for my info
its like i dont belong here but at the same time ill take it
I HATE THESE QUESITONS
what that mean?
Im so down bad for C1 or amazon
😭
that's good aslong as I can get the offer ❤️
that's all that matters
❤️
for bay?
could be that too
yea
lol no way
is that why they hired you
ho
bruh they were paying 66 on levels last year what u talkin ab
mclean 61/hr nyc 66/hr sf 69/hr, free housing or stipend
I got final with 816 but I didn't have time to fucking submit 3rd... when I created custom class for solution I used auto implementation of Comparable interface and this shit fucked me over by adding some bullshit code that wasn't compiling... E.g. Main.ClassName... So I didn't have time to fucking remove one word - "Main"
WTFFF
shit not bad
BRO HOW
I would go mclean anyday
fuk the west
nasty aah la and new york
gettin sturdy and etc
what did you do?
😮
Nah but
like did you do blind 75?
like what did you do?
how to prep for palantir karat
which lang? python?
what is this?
yean can we do web one in java?
for blackstone
how hard were the questions, I got the OA, but haven't done it yet
what does that mean
yeah
ok, how hard was the python one?
anyone know if optblacklists
i heard someone say they do
for a year or something
if you fail OA
and after that im assuming right
so cant fail now ig
i dont rlly get the "year long" blacklist
im not rlly applying again within a sem
go for it
I thought leetcode stream was stupid but I act went to one and its hella helpful
optiver
How???
LMAO
Bro is speed running leetcode questions
I mean leetcode stream idea just seemed dumb I thought it was a bunch of people doing leetcode questions talking toghter
Idk bro
U hella good at leetcode so it helped see how u do it
I joined the stream, it's just him speed runing medium-hard questions
Yeah but his thinkin process is good
Yeah with less talking
Kinda lmao
Chick fil a wtf
Mid chicken anyways
I heard getting a chick fil a franchise is hella hard
Would rather work at popeyes so I could get some good chicken
Yo
I am applying then
😛
Man when should I start applying
I am kind of mid at leetcode
Free sandwich with job there
good?
4500 per month
really?
Bro not every intern making hrt money
should be at least 7000
usually a year blacklist means you cant apply till next yearround season
For a fast food worker
oh I thought that was SWE intern job
exactly even chick fila chicken cookers don't make that much
It is
It is swe intern
U program the secret formula
Does everyoen really expect 40$ an hour for their first internship?
then 27 isn't enough for me🥲
N3 is doing every Lc problem
Send rthe link
💀
wym
It’s cringe
True its cring
I was forced to for c1 lmao
i agree, not sure
are you at c1 rn?
oh nvm
I took a codeSignal practice test, and RotatedRectSum problem was fk hard although I solved it
You could get that hard question in OA?
just google RotatedRectSum
This one's tedious but not that difficult if you figure out how to easily rotate it
yo put this in #leetcode_discussion
bet, will try that, ty
good luck
Don't know how to rotate lol
Think about a different way to rotate
You don't have to literally rotate the array
Yeah
don't you
do a double for loop
and extract it to the other matrix
or something
u can do it in place
yeah simplest way
lol
super simple nested for loop
if u wanna reverse ounter clockwise
then reverse each row
watching him do this question makes my head hurt
then swap rows and cols for each grid
this's the easiest way
rotate image is rly simple just do it intuitively like i mentioned above
i hated rotate image then I leaned the linear algebra way and now I like it
stop flexing
i was tryna interpolate an in-place rotation of an image at work today 😭

the actual roation fine, but the fact that it was non-linear interpoleation makes it paingee to implement
is codesignal practice test literally rng
i'm retaking the practice and i got 3 questions done
my first, I only got 1 done
@hallow scroll hows your prep going ?
@hallow scroll hows your prep going ?
@hallow scroll hows your prep going ?

I gave an assessment of the 2023 Software Development Engineer Internship (Amazon) position on 31st July. I found out today that I got the virtual interview invitation email on August 2nd but the mail had gone into the spam folder that I accidentally saw today.
My deadline for the availability survey expired on August 5th and as I was unaware of the invitation. I've already emailed them. It's been 2 days. Have not got any reply as of now. What should I do now?
that was foul @rustic topaz
Did you ace the OA?
Would say you missed your only chance imo

i'm sorry fren
who pang?
pinged*
who pang?
good
im pretty confident
went through tagged and blind 75
all of it??
lc bot tagged?
holy fuck
for what?
amayon
gl
tyty
yes I heard people get it last year

coinbase incoming rescind and amazon hiring freeze
Copium
@hallow scroll
Twitter rescinded and they had good product
But the president uses Twitter
every tech company uses slack tho
@hearty river hi 😄
Doesn’t that make it good
we use teams too
shit is wack
I have my interview at 4 tmr is it worth speedrunning some tagged before interview 
it always lags the messages
slack > every form of communication tbh
honestly just sleep
apparently slack employees dont even use their gmails
Wait who's the interview with 
everyone just communicates on slack lol
waiting for a company to use discord
discord probably uses slack instead of discord
ok sleep 
but what about tomorrow morning?
does microsoft use slack?
more sleep?
just sleep until the interview
bet
Real talk probably all you can do is common mediums because does Amazon even use tagged
maybe for some sort of important message idk
I probably got shit RNG last year but still

isn't that the dudes that lost like 3 billion
I think they ask tagged
oh yeah true
alright I just got fucked last year then lmfao
hey mr not hrt
i literally just heard about 3AC a couple days ago in darknet diaries
same
idk its okay tho cuz you dont actually work there 😉
little silly nickname
yeah you dont
yes
damn actually
skype
skype is garbage
I think so?
zoom next addition to faang
faangz
I mean during the pandemic tons of companies that shouldn't have grown to the size they did grew a lot
like 90% of unicorns
depends on the area
i use it a lot and I like the privacy of having something like an airbnb
up to the person ig and where youre going
yeah thats true, ig I dont like the idea that its a bunch of rooms next to each other
i'm fine with an apartment
mostly because I want to live in the city
cheap safe fun
pick two
I don't think there's a city with all three

it's cheap if you have FAANG salary
cost of living is fine but pay is pretty bad for swe
also my favorite city is Taipei
i do too
sometimes on a productive day I wake up and eat something before standup
just say
"i worked on xx yesterday and I hope to get done with it by tomorrow"
at every standup
it's like, whenever there is a standup, my sleep schedule is fucked just enough for me to be sleepy during it
but most the times I just roll out of bed and get it over with
fr lol
personal things goes hard
yeah this minus 4
#4 is too much
💯
that's basically what I do right now
but I get paid $15 an hour so I don't feel bad about it
yeah
cause my manager's manager is a hoe
and thinks he runs a big company
Goku 👍
i wonder what leetcode problems you get asked when you apply for leetcode job
custom

is leetcode a unicorn
😐
good advice ima go do that
that dud n3 literally solved the question in recursion seeing it for the first time
in like
under 5 minutes
do you guys still do side projects and learn new stuff or nah it's all just interview prep?
Don't you have shopify 😭
lc soul sucking i wanna hack on a rendering engine
side projects until I feel like my resume can get through screening
leetcode until I got an internship
yeah that's why I'm watching baseball and eating a burrito right now instead of leetcoding
yeah my internship season is over
i'm was saying before I got the offers

on the subject
what do I say
this is akuna
Bro
long story
everyone knows amazon > akuna
cause amazon said no
💀
wat
amazon no move??
hi
respond to wat
@stark basin you should've taken akuna so there is less competition for me for amazon
wtf
why would you do this?
😐
what did you try to start at, winter 2023?
that would be nice
💀
bro I am trying 😭
me who is new 😭
gamn
but no one gets netflix
ik a netflix intern
I think capital one should replace amazon in FAANG. Now it’s GNACF

bruh if amazon wont let me move ima riot
But you already have slack 🤨
I put winter 2023 first choice but idk how theyre gonna do it
lol
YES I WANT SLACK SUMMER NOT AMAZON
ITS BEEN A WEEK
AMAZON WINTER
dont take amazon offer ❤️
Delaying another semester?
@hallow scroll when did u do amazon intervoo
💀💀💀
nooo 😭
wait also is coinbase open
tomorrow
when does coinbase open?
never




