#2023_summer
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first thing i do every morning
swe requires faang for resume screen
i got rejected from their swe role
fuck js
they didnt even have my school listed
yes
what is ur skool
Trader probably has a decently tough resume screen too
SFU
yeah but i think i go to a skool where they recruit
It’s just that its lower than swe and 3 rounds before onsite
QUANT SCREEN IS A MYTH 
o
🤎
ask daddy
for cs isnt Cornell better then most ivies
it's definitely dartmouth
imho gt > cornell
it's for sure dartmouth
cornell cs undergrad is a clusterfuck lol
i have yet to meet someone from dartmouth
they're all in finance
those mfs are rare pokimons
thats why
Dartmouth's a fuckin myth
oh ic
uhh i just got contacted by microsoft recruiter wtf do i do
ask them for feet pics
say hi
skill issue
for what
jk msft is random
im applying rn
resume screen is actually a coinflip
its rng lol
no ik some DUMB mfs at msft
msft gave me the hardest question ive ever had
nah i heard msft is one of the harder ones
bruh
basically had to create a file directory tree thingy recursively from a filepath
and there were some other requirements like searching it etc
Well google asks easy questions so any other company would ask harder questions
yeah its rough, I tried finding the exact variation I got online and couldnt and its because my interviewer said, "this is a problem I did at work the other day, I was wondering how you would do it"
yeah google is still p hard tho, I got fucked by a matrix dp med/hard
but then again I also dont know dp lol
fall
yeah
summer 2023
damnnn
Like palindrome level easy
I thot they becoming amazon
nah you got some godsent rng
Wait so u got rejected after phone screens?
yeah
dam indeed
Next time

You’ll get Lc easy 😉
I'm new to code signal I just took the Roblox one
2
oh 1 on the first and 2 on the second I think?
Wtf was the point of the cars
Idk
glob.glob(".", recursive=True)
really?

ive unironiclly done this before at work
im trolling, but is that something someone said
no
but ive heard that
it might be outrageous
but ive also heard that i should just go for 3-year
nah people always lie about grad date and say that they are graduating early
but do they get blacklisted is the question
they dont care they just want to poach you
nah
@hallow scroll 
why would you do that with ivy league education (harvard) like,, (harvard) more years of school === better applicant?
i do not go to harvard 
no jokes aside
uh
idk
what do you guys recommend doing if you have no idea how to solve a question in an interview?
disconnect
nah but seriously just let them know youre stuck just dont give up and see if your interviewer is willing to give pointers
def ask ur interviewer for hints if u need any
like you keep asking questions to understand the question but can't really think about how to solve it
they are mostly willing to help
yeah just preparing for this situation as I am sure i will face this at some point lol
I am immensely disappointed
so don't want to panic and have an idea of how to approach a situation like this
sometimes i have no idea of how to brute force 
does share/decline/defer matter for square gca
at least try to move towards a brute force
and just keep talking out loud about what you're thinking about
if they want you to pass they'll give you hints
that's a great advice ty!

also for interviews, do you guys follow the UMPIRE method?
or is this just a codepath thing
if not, would love to know how you approach problems
umpire?
as this will be my first recruiting season and haven't really given a tech interview before
i barely remember to do STAR in behavioral interviews I can't follow a 6 letter acronym in coding tests
"ez"
how to you approach prob then once you are given the question
no pseudo code or planning out your approach before that?
FRRRR?
my coding interviews have generally been short affairs so no time to do any pseudocode stuff
return investment on tagged qs is high asfffffffffff
u mean like writing test cases or completely random shit
what was thew coding platform used for the interview by amazon?
how do you go about testing your code once done?
I'll tell you for my Amazon coding interview though
got a problem I've never seen before, unfortunately
Quickly worked towards a brute force solution and noted that it would be O(n^2)
Talked through my thought process through maybe doing a single-pass solution with hashmaps and stuff
start working on it and halfway through it realize that it might not work if there are duplicates
Told the interviewer that, and then he hinted to try binary search or something
Worked towards that, with him giving some more hints along the way
Asked me what the time complexity of the code would be, etc
Ended up with ugly-ass code that on retrospect wouldn't work at all, but I think I talked enough to show him that I knew how to write the code and that I knew the logic
you got the offer?
yes
giga based
damn you ended up coding thrice
What location did you get?
@stark basin have you done any personal projects?
yeah I was concerned
for resume?
What did you do?
oh i see but good job!

I feel a lot more confident now so thanks everyone! I was thinking a bit too much about following the umpire method so that was really helpful
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I'm in Irvine so
Ah I wanted Boston but I got NYC
stinky
after which round?
Same
lmao don't like the robot

I wanna see how to fucking share the Gca score tucking shitty ass ui platform 
Ok I can share it
Nvm
No I’m in office
how is imc trader oa
? nothing
yeah my school email UI is messed up
good thing my main email UI never changes for some reason
i kinda dig the new font
u got such good numbers
sick
yo that servicenow posting a couple days ago
that isnt all for servicenow right
theyll have more postnigs later?
Well yeah. Wasn’t they layoffs mainly recruiters?
true

wait actually?? damn that's a pretty high bar
Wait, roblox is proctored gca right
yup
I will submit my Blocks gca report ?
is there even a non proctored gca?
If it's 820+, go dor it
i think so
Yes
847 
Tf is that question then
what's ur current score?
You gonna try for 849 lol
Nope, I am fine with what I have
What to expect in Akuna Data Tooling Phone round ?
stuff related to Python or LC ?
Application -> OA -> FInal
1
What is roblox like after OA rounds?
If Google sends snapshot and you do well on it, is it guaranteed technical?
i think just technical and behavior
i have yet to get final 😔
and i took my oa thursday
Think so, I didn’t get all cases but still made final
ye i plan to take it sometime this week
😭
Nice nice
845+ is probably 100%
that's a p high bar
its been mixed from what ive heard some ppl say 825 some say 840 some say 845
but i think 840+ is ilke 80-90% safe
i'd say 820+ is good
Ah ok ok
Did anyone get invited for the final round of Amazon 2023 Intern position, after passing all the test cases for just 1 program out of 2?
4 out of 14
14??
you gotta lc more
aren't they out of 15
that's way to low
yeah i think 15 and 4 is a bit risky
you will fail in onsite
not way too low
ok relax
lmao
maybe the problem was hard
maybe they panicked its fine

but yeah practice more and you'll get it 
they can easily still pass the "onsite"
yea
onsite is a misc blind 75 problem it's not that deep
but i think 15 and 4 is a bit risky
misc?
miscellaneous
theres a misc section in b75?
nah haha i mean it's a random b75
depends on the company
yes
aren't we talking ab amazon? wdym lmfao
but first focus on test cases, if u have time then
for amazon, you don't really have to care about the efficiency
I had 100% on one problem, 40% on the second
go for spoody
40% is still like 6 problems
well then its prob fine
imp sure test case > complexity
but go for better code if u have time
espec on gca
yeah
test cases > good code > speed > efficiency
on gca
got score upgrade with well structured code 
If I passed all the test cases for both problems for Amazon OA and think I answered work style questions alright, will I get final?
My solutions weren't the most efficient imo, but they passed all test cases for both
Oh waot
yeah
yeah u are chillinnn
well they didnt say but like
normally u dont just get
more points
for no reason
from what ive heard
cuz time and everything else is automatically factored in when inital scoring happens
but there does appear to be some correlation between score increase post verification
apparently asana application on greenhouse is not the real one
asana has not opened yet
just heard back from recruiter
unlucky
what’s the max score u can get if u do 1 2 4 on codesignal
825
Yeah reddit says some heard back with 800s
Should be? I think the hype with ppl saying 840+ is that if you get rejected post OA its not rlly attributed to your score as it is to your resume
you only need 820+ if you dont have a lot of exp since companies resume screen after code signal or if its a try hard company like databricks
Yea exactly
If you get rejected after OA it is most likely not that you had a bad score if you have 820+
And sometimes people still get rejected with good resumes, which happens at every company so yeah
cuz they send out a lot of oas, do they filter really heavily at interview stage
nah they also hire a lot of people
amazon is one of those companies where its not really a headcount thing but more of how you preform
okay thats excellent news
Amazon sucks ass
cuz i cant outperform these op people
yeah lc problem is normally easy/med
GHosting me forever

Thats pog
Any graph med im down
rng
I know someone that got LC hard for amazon
most of the time easy medium
I think it was like Median of Data Stream or something
i cant solve num of islands
Dude literally you can conceptually solve b75 in a few days
nah I did
as long as youve done it before
I had like 7 lc problems done before my interview
was legit my first ever technical
If youve done b75, best way to prep is conceptually solve b75
Not if youre seeing it the first time
what do you mean conceptually
DIsagree, its def hard
just make sure you know the approach
yeah median is hard if youve never seen it
oh you can math it out i think
hopefully its doable
nah
Yeah bfs is best way
I think DFS works too right?
but youd have to compare and stuff
yea exactly
bfs more efficient
Wow
What do you guys think about this resume template:
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is there a q on leetcode like this
But it's $16 bucks though right?
not sure if i understand bfs vs dfs approach
bet ty
@white zinc
Ok sounds good
yea
Thanks thanks guys
Yeah bro just use #resume
and jakes template
Right
still not bad
I get too hell bent on using dfs
Wow Leetcode UI popping
bfs better for shortest paths
yeah
what do you use?
LC or hackerrank or bsearch?
yeah cause once you hit the goal once youre done
ye ye
Ye I agree
dfs is usually better in trees
Dijkstra would be nicer
dijkstras makes use of bfs right?
do i need to know boyer moore for interviews?
can you do LC hards
cuz its only applicable to like one problem
def not
alr alr i like never heard of it until now
i wouldnt expect to know Boyer Moore, KMP, or Rabin Karp
although Rabin Karp is somewhat trivial
KMP is def no
thats like LC hard
Quick question folks.
Do you guys know about the 169 question bank that Grind 75 has?
theres another hard algo for palindromic substring
yes what abt it?
its made by the same mfs that made blind 75
ye ye
can you access it by any chance?
Grind 75 is a better version of Blind 75 which goes beyond 75 questions. You can customize the available time you have, difficulty, topics, etc. The possibilities are endless.
dp uses up more space
Oh no no, I mean the 169 questions question bank.
iterative saves more space
dp[i][j] = dp[i + 1][j] + dp[i][j - 1] - dp[i + 1][j - 1]
therefore iterative is more optimal
ye
yeah
i do be grinding grind 75 rn
i need to
god i hate algos
which ones
i have one interview coming up and potentially another one
I need to learn bellman ford
and graph stuff
although its rare
still should know it ig
dp greedy and divide and conquer
mergesort and quicksort
karasubas algo
you know how to do karatsuba?
ngl i still can’t code up a mergesort or quick sort without looking it up
nope i remember i being taught abt it at one point
as an intro to divide and conquer
you def dont
its a multiplication optimization
o(n^sqrt(3)/2 ) or something
i forget the time complexity
it’s insane
oh its log2(3)
im hoping c1 and amazon wont be asking dp
if they do catch me jumpin off my apartment building
can you do DP meds
nope
Hey people
not rlly imo
amazon rarely asks dp dw
i prefer tabulation
bottom up sometimes confuses me
i suck with the recursion portion
im also dumb at dp
same
Please guys, which do you guys prefer between Grind75's 169 questions and neetcode.io, just for the basis of the questions?
Grind 75 is a better version of Blind 75 which goes beyond 75 questions. You can customize the available time you have, difficulty, topics, etc. The possibilities are endless.
GRIND
grind way better
Ah
do grind
Way better?
do grind in one month
i love grind
ill give you 1000
Why do you guys think so?
Why do you guys think grind is much better?
also
doing it not by pattern is nice
for interview prep
just do all of them
thanks
maybe add kirb 300 to that
and geeks for geeks
and binary search problems
and LC explore cards
neetcode+grokking+grind+blind+sean prasad+kirb 300 + bit of comp programing and you should be ready for amazon
i do it by pattern to learn the patterns first
yes this is good
and OOD
Grokking is god tier
time to go to lc
bye

same
yep same

these interviews are stressing me the fuck out
Do you guys prefer going from easy to hard for all kinds of questions or doing it pattern by pattern for different questions instead?
to learn first go pattern by pattern
for interview prep I think its best to scramble
and then go random mode
yea
if u start random idt youll rlly learn the patterns too well
im very much a starter in leetcode as well
ok ok
Thanks for the advice guys
Guys quick question
Do you guys think codesignal takes the order of last name and first name into account for a profile when reviewing your score to verify it?
Cause I switched mine for a gmail account I created.
Just wondering if anyone has done that here before.
am i fucked for my first OA
What
i have one for GS and anotehr Optiver
Most will have a “practice” you can look at
So you understand what to expect
Then the rest is straight forward
optiver is auto fyi, i did it perfectly last yr, still rej for next round so don't bother unless resume good
Do companies put a higher stress on experience or skill when looking at single product companies?
that's too general of a question to answer lol but for intern probbaly skill as long you have some experience
yeah talking about an intern position, thanks

Friend got js interview is it time to off myself 
What to expect in Akuna Data Tooling Phone round ?
stuff related to Python or LC ?

wtffffff
yoo
is it gonna close in like 1 day
Nah i dont think so
wait this is for uni grads?
You wanna find out?
well I got a final tomorrow and would preferably want to focus on revising instead of fixing my resume today but uhhh
why does it say for graduates tho
no idea, qualifications said we just gotta be pursuing a bachelor's

I’m applying out of spite so I can reject them this time 
Colarado pay is 7890$, so for other states it will be the same ?
im applying bc im desperate
could be more could be less
probably more in seattle lol
They mention Colorado pay bc they’re legally required to
probably be more in Cali and seattle, less in bumfuck nonwhere
You misspelled Waterloo 
bumfuck nice word 
I was trying to be nice

guys msft is out??
but i tsays for "Uni grads"??
wonder if I should apply and if I get accepted ask if they can move internship to like fall or winter or something
pretend that isn't there
I keep getting rejected with my resume
I still get auto rejected with Jake's though
sounds like a content problem
Ah man

You mind a dm please?
why do they have GA opening separately
(MSFT)
for georgia tech /s 
he says mean things in dm
Ok, sounds good
how hard is microsoft resume screen
microsoft apps are out
trying to give referrals to peeps but this shit is crashing
cant even log into my profile
ill take a referral 
SWE intern
shit why not
dont apply for the role yet if you want a referral
yeah ofc
the referral gives you a special app link
Me too man 🙂
swe intern link?
im an intern so i dont get a bonus 
microsoft app not working lol
it's not for undergraduate?
lmfao yeah
yep
yeah website down
nothing
this happened to roblox too

is the app for undergrad intern or graduate?
cause any employee can refer, but interns at MSFT dont really matter so until you're FTE referring for FTE you dont get a bonus
looks like undergrad right?
looks like both
yeah
No proper load balancing 
they need a system design interview prep course
lmao yeahhhh
it was down a second ago, working now
nvm should've opened the link
btw official asana apps are not out so no point applying to the link on greenhouse
they won't be reviewing it
i genuinely hate msft
pretty sure no
so they do do an oa though then
long story short, everything is rigged
someone ik had a choice between OA and phone
hey ma people
Hey ma people
Please people, would you mind looking through my resume templates in the #resume channel
their recruiting process is actually not merit based, ik someone who cant code to save their own life but got into the company cuz the recruiter basiclly pushed them thru. He was asked twosum and valid soduko
he didnt even have any work exp either
dm me and ill show u his resume
well you actually get the work life balance to spend the money at microsoft
didn't they decided to increase TC?
Ah guys
no wlb for interns at Amazon?
all cloud teams are tuff no?
Please guys, could you try assisting me with some resume feedback in the #resume channel?
sure
depends on team
i have friends who are chilling and friends who want to die
most of what I heard is anything related to AWS or cloud or a big famous team gets no sleep
amzn is double msft
software engineer
TC for MSFT has increased
wdym
closer to 200k NG now for returning interns
wish I was level 69
why do they start at 59
what's special about 59
yeah that's what I've heard as well
actually now that I think about it
isn't SDE1 at Amazon level 4 or something
what are levels 1~3
warehouse workers?
CAN WE STOP WITH THE 
I see but I don't see
it's not like you're gonna eventually get promoted from warehouse worker to SDE1 right
I3 WINDOW MNGMT 
@weak wadi do you want me to bug you for microsoft referral tomorrow when website stops getting ddosed
just wondering whether you have already got RO or know someone who got it?
thx again
why is this wazowskied
cuz 789
ye
i'm more concerned that that implies that there are 58 levels under entry
well unofficially official
looking good
me hungry
ye 59 is NG
some returning interns get 60 though if they perform well
Masters start at 60 and sometimes those and PHD's get 61
4.5 years
is that saying you get 120k in stock???
it's 120k/4.5
oh
I am bad with maths, does that l59 calc equal to 200k TC
nah amazon does 4 years too
what are 59 and 69
except they're more cutthroat
59 and 60*
tbh why do companies give stock only for k years if they dont want turnover
Amazon is like 15/15/30/40
??
yep this happens a lot after 3-4 years
most people leave at the 3 year mark
yeah I mean it's 2 years of getting that starting bonus pay and the promotion and the rest is spent trying to find a new job

you normally get promoted to 60 at MSFT within 2-3 years
If it's over 25-30k I believe it's vested over 2 years instead
so if you get max of 50k bonus it's 25k for 2 years
well
at least for the first job
I would want to at least work until I get to the next level before finding a new job
cause otherwise you'd have to find another entry job right
apple doesnt have gamepass tho

ye we got the xbox org
azure
by far azure
33% of our profits is azure
not revenue
profits
Could add referral in MSFT internship ? I didn't see the blank to fill out name of referrer
Can I get a referral
Guys
Do you guys think Roblox would be happy with 848 in the codesignal?
Ah
Ok ok
I thought 849 was the highest though
Touch grass
does anyone know how strict roblox is w/the cognitive assessment
pre sure i got dogged so hard on that
i had 3 for first round
you open the door
Bruh this car so scary
?????????????
we got diff qs
Roblox wildin
nope
uhh
obstacle course
no mines
i had some pillars
that went up and down
nope
i had a wind tunnel
ye
fml
the std question
for the first game
was so dumb too
yeah the foxes one
i couldnt do part 2 lol
This is gibberish I should just go ahead and take this crap
Is there anyway to prepare for the non-codesignal for Roblox
i was guessing at that point
Or nah
no
Yummy
impossible
I got hards 
did u get offer or fumble

facts if it was a hard fuck that lmfao
Fr
is my gca disqualified if my mom walked in lol
Did she begin coaching you in DSA
no
this is why you git gud so everything is easy 
Then no
I was SHHHHinf loudly in the background for mine and nothing happened lol
wait wdym
how do u git gud
git add origin gud
Like telling my parents to be quiet since they had the tv blasting
oh ok
i just said im taking a test and she left soon
Don’t think proctoring is that severe

can someone dm their general process for imc oa q2? I tried using two queues and got 7/13 test cases only
does microsoft sponsor? because they have an app for Canada and an app for US
if i apply to US, would i get auto rejected? (as a canadian)
roblox is 849 only
hi bexy
zenit 

ok im capping
EVERYONE IS CAPPING ALL THE TIME
Wow
Ye I agree
dmed u
i dont play the codesignal game
i cant be bothered
send me a hackerrank and ill do it
Did anyone apply to msft with a referral? Someone mentioned that it won't accept referral and I wanted to check
yeah msft referral doesnt do anything
Rlly
yeah 
welcome to real cs
Codesignal game is the game once u get a good score
Don’t have to worry bout setting time to do oa
just submit
wdym
you cant apply with referral?
it doesnt effect anything at all
No you don’t have to use anything it’s just the repo gets updated a while after links are released
no? u can use whatever u want linkedin prob is where ppl find the updates that then get put on the repo
The companies themselves aren’t updating the repo, it’s other people like you who find out about it and update it
code signal is stupid
i hate this
i hate it
i dont like being timed
it makes me feel weird
At amazon we are not timed and we work 24x7 
does the difference between an 848 or 845 codesignal acc make a difference
does anyone know if there’s a spot to put in referral emails on the j.p. morgan chase application
will 850 pass roblox codesignal?
will 420 pass roblox codesignal?
Wtf is roblox OA
Bullshit disease spreading minigame
I’m just gonna submit my code signal I did before and bullshit the second part
And then gtfo
the second part is fun tho
why not proctored
doing 1, 2, 4 and not opening 3 can get you 820+
LeGerald
i forgor💀
imagine wagons is collecting all the faang + hft








