2023_grads

[dusty basin]

just the typical b75 + neetcode 150

[random cobalt]

I have gone through b75 a while back

[dusty basin]

and company specific tagged if u have time left

[random cobalt]

I have done a bit over 350 questions, not that these numbers matter.

[random cobalt]

Ok I'll look into questions that I haven't done in neetcode

[dusty basin]

even if u have done questions, I'd say revise them if it's been a while

it helps to understand patterns rather than just solve questions

[random cobalt]

It's definitely been a while :( I am a little rusted for now

[dusty basin]

and if u look at it, $100-sth for a year or whatever for a potential $150k+ offer is def not a bad deal

[random cobalt]

That's actually really useful advice

[random cobalt]

Yes I believe in this too

[lilac siren]

U can try to attend weekly contests. If u can ac 3+ questions, u will probably pass the interview. But we still need to learn to describe our ideas clearly. (Especially for ones who are not native English speakers)

[dusty basin]

if u do weekly contests, u need to touch grass

^ message for everyone in this server

[ornate cliff]

Wow I feel bad for Meta interns

Zero motivation to do any of the work really

That sucks

[dusty basin]

more motivation to LC

[thick shell]

That too forgot about that

[vital meteor]

Anecdotal but I got lc premium and got faang offer

[random cobalt]

How did you end up using it

Like company tagged?

[random cobalt]

I used to get about 3 right

[vital meteor]

I used it for the b75 list lmao so maybe like 6 questions

[random cobalt]

And then I stopped for a while, and now i get 2 but I'm picking up

[vital meteor]

But who knows maybe if I didnt get it I wouldnt have gotten the offer

[random cobalt]

What does touch grass mean

[dusty basin]

go outside and not be a nerd

[random cobalt]

Lmaooo

[normal palm]

Is there gonna be a ‘23 grad process

[primal pike]

bro 350 u should know everything

unless u speedrun

[random cobalt]

It's been about 6 months since I have not picked LC up :( but yes the more I'm looking at now, the easier it has been to recall where i left

[dusty basin]

yea i'd suggest doing b50 and neetcode/sean prashad

even if you've done the questions before. 6 months is quite a while

[dire yarrow]

What if you do both

[exotic oracle]

impossible

[dire yarrow]

there's nothing wrong in doing weekly contests lmao

[exotic oracle]

you are a fraud and a lair

liar

[dusty basin]

then ur capping

[dire yarrow]

You caught me

I don't do those anymore

[young peak]

bois

finally below 200lbs again

been so long

Weighted exactly 90kg today

feels so fucking good man

[dire yarrow]

I gained like 20 lbs in last month lmfao

[ripe socket]

Same same. But not last month, like last year

[primal pike]

can get amz oa anytime now

[ripe socket]

I'm still watching my WhatsApp

[lilac siren]

It is enough. Even learning system design as NG is better choice than practice for the hard LC problems.

[ripe socket]

We'll get asked about it?

As a new grad? 🤔

[lilac siren]

I don't think so

[young peak]

From my experience, I didn't get any sys design but I did get LC hards so I wouldn't focus on sys design as a new grad

My G OAs, Roblox final, Meta interview, Tiktok phone screen, IMC OA etc were all hards

Even HFTs didn't ask me sys des

[primal pike]

intern?

[young peak]

new grad

I'm a 2022 new grad, already got my job at G

Had what I think was a pretty successful cycle

Here's my slanky lmfao

its 8 offers now

[fresh lagoon]

excluding OAs i only got hards from nuro

[dusty basin]

u can get sys design but it's rare and it's mostly OOD

and yes, LC hards are def possible

[young peak]

OOD != sys design though is what my point is

[dusty basin]

whereas system design is uncommon for ng

[young peak]

people get em mixed up

[dusty basin]

well, fair

[young peak]

did you get sys des lumen?

[fresh lagoon]

i dont think sys design is that uncommon especially if youre interviewing for unicorns

[young peak]

people that get sys des as a NG just suck at RNG lmao

[dusty basin]

i got OOD mostly

[young peak]

Can you name me a Unicorn?

[fresh lagoon]

scale ai

[young peak]

I'll check on my spreadsheet

[young peak]

Didn't ask sys design for me

[fresh lagoon]

i got sys design from scale ai robinhood atlassian

[young peak]

robinhood didn't ask me sys design

and I got resumed at atlassian so idk

kek

[fresh lagoon]

yeah maybe just positions too

[lilac siren]

If someone can solve 4 in a contest, hard are not hard for them anymore, like some ICPC/USACO participants. But it will take pretty long time for others to practice for hard.

[ripe socket]

Did you manage to solve it?

[dusty basin]

plus even if they did, skipping LC hards which are more likely to appear for sys design, which is only at a select few places for ng is not the right move

[young peak]

Among those companies, I got in to all of them except for IMC

[dusty basin]

i got IMC

[fresh lagoon]

the new grad sys design expectations are not very high i think, its pretty ez to prep for if youre a cs major you probably already know some concepts

[dusty basin]

wtf @young peak

jelly mf

[young peak]

Did you actually?

[dusty basin]

i did lol

[young peak]

Bro why didn't you choose it again?

[dusty basin]

not offer

[young peak]

ahhh

thats right

[dusty basin]

oh wait u talking about offers?

[primal pike]

damn imagine not getting an internship because bad at LC and now have to do sys design for new grad on top of that

[dusty basin]

u got roblox?

[young peak]

Oh roblox is on there oof

yeah naw I got up to final

[young peak]

Just for clarification I got offers from: Google, Meta, Bloomberg, TIkTok, Citadel, DraftKings, Uber and a Series A startup

[dusty basin]

again, u don't have to do sys design for most of them so not something to worry about until u get interview email

[ripe socket]

So you solved the lc hard question s?

[fresh lagoon]

agreed you can prep sys design in 2 weeks for sure

[ripe socket]

Then I'm fucked

[dusty basin]

nah

ur good

[primal pike]

yea but then its too late right

[young peak]

Well if you look at my listed offers, I got pretty easy questions on half of em. The LC hards were the ones you'd end up doing anyway if you follow Neetcode 100/Blind 75

[dusty basin]

most lc hards they would ask a ng aren't as hard as ppl think once you've practiced similar questions

[primal pike]

idk what the grind is for sys design

[lilac siren]

My point are to skip both LC hard and sys design if don't have enough time to prepare. But we need to make sure we can solve most medium and answer oop questions and basic CS knowledge.

[dusty basin]

no

it's def not

[young peak]

Also there's a chance you don't even need to solve the question. Just show your thought process and try ask best as you can to answer the question

[dusty basin]

yea tru

that happened to me with msft last round tbh

[young peak]

Oh yeah this I agree on

[primal pike]

i studied every bloomberg tagged q I hope that's enough to pass the phone screen

[young peak]

No way I can polyfill a C library function in 45 mins lmao

[dusty basin]

even if ur stuck, just keep communicating whatever dumbass ideas come to your head

[young peak]

I still got the cit offer

[fresh lagoon]

i think if you can some most mediums, youll be able to come up with ideas for hards and will have no issues getting a good company

but obviously just do as much as you have time for

[young peak]

meta and bloomberg are all tagged dw

[primal pike]

if I get the design underground subway im happy af

[dusty basin]

@young peak make my resume for me

[young peak]

tbh just don't do sys design if you don't have extra time

[sonic quail]

wtf sys design

[young peak]

Fuck off to overleaf and just learn it bud

[dusty basin]

no

[sonic quail]

what type of questions

[dusty basin]

bro y'all need to chill

[young peak]

"How would you design Twitter"

[ripe socket]

Make me one as well

[sonic quail]

whenever people tell me they got system design it’s like design some OOP class

[ripe socket]

[dusty basin]

think about sys design when u get interview email

[dusty basin]

yea that's OOD

[dire yarrow]

You'd get that in Tesla interview

[dusty basin]

which is ez if u have any intern experience

it's just common sense

[dusty basin]

i've gotten that

[lilac siren]

I think system design is better than LC hard because we will need to do sys design someday in the future.

[young peak]

Tesla interview: "Recreate the Model 3 so that performance metrics are within the top 0.01% band of the world"

[dusty basin]

but it was a way watered down version

[young peak]

someday ain't today

[ripe socket]

Can you have any ood examples? I don't really have a proper swe intern

[dusty basin]

grokking system design

plus i think there's a LC question

gimme a sec

https://leetcode.com/problems/design-twitter/

[young peak]

Neither did I bud. Just LC grind and prep your mock interviews. OOD examples are just like making classes, methods that use em etc

[dusty basin]

this was the exact one i got lol

[ripe socket]

The object detection metric?

[dusty basin]

u had other experience bro

[primal pike]

ood is super ez tbh

[young peak]

those are nothing compared to a FAANG internship and you know it

[ripe socket]

Where you can find mock interviews?

[young peak]

Here

just ask one of us

and someone will make time (probably)

[dusty basin]

i didn't have faang internship but a shitty internship at my uni and some personal projects taught me all i needed to know

[dusty basin]

most of us are free

and bored

esp @young peak

he doesn't even work

[young peak]

Ayo wtf

[ripe socket]

[young peak]

I start Aug 29th

Ugh honestly y'all are too hardset rn. Just chill until mid Aug man

[dusty basin]

but yea, just feel free to ask full timers and someone (preferably in #2022_grads) will probably make time

[sonic quail]

wait y’all alr got job offers for 2023?

[young peak]

Do some LCs, but touch grass and enjoy your internships if you have any

[young peak]

Naw half of us are just 2022 dudes

we should really stop tainting this channel kek

[dire yarrow]

I maxed out my start date as much as OPT permitted me

[primal pike]

am i the only one here internshipless

[dire yarrow]

I didn't wanna use up my unemployment days

[dusty basin]

nah. p sure other ppl are in the same boat

[young peak]

Mines July 14th lmaooo

[fresh lagoon]

i saw yall talking here to not ruin the oh damn chain

[dusty basin]

2022 grads also had quite a few ppl without exp

[young peak]

You noticed? 💀

[dire yarrow]

yea true. ppl are genuinely asking for help

[dusty basin]

we help ppl tho

[dire yarrow]

You do

[sonic quail]

bruh if u get the design twitter question what if ur just like what is twitter

[young peak]

you get hired instantly

[dusty basin]

u get promoted to CEO

[young peak]

unless you work at Zon

They don't accept people that ask questions

[dusty basin]

im fucked then

[sonic quail]

like i’m sure some people will definitely be like what is twitter

[fresh lagoon]

be right, a lot

[dusty basin]

the question is pretty self-explanatory though

and if u ask, interviewer will explain

so nbd

[dire yarrow]

How would you answer that question tho?

[dusty basin]

"social media site where ppl post cringe opinions and follow other ppl who share the same opinions and feed their confirmation bias"

[dire yarrow]

Not that

"How do you design twitter?"

this one

[dusty basin]

have u seen the question

[dire yarrow]

No

[dusty basin]

take a look

it's pretty self-explanatory about everything that needs to be implemented

[dire yarrow]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/design-twitter-a-system-design-interview-question/

[dusty basin]

thats a bit much for ng lol

that's actual sys design

[dire yarrow]

[primal pike]

https://leetcode.com/problems/design-twitter/

[ancient holly]

Does anyone have lc premium && could screenshot high frequency google questions?

Many many many thanks in advance

[rain patio]

it’s on github

imma link it to u one sec

[rain patio]

https://github.com/krishnadey30/LeetCode-Questions-CompanyWise

gl

it’s always some desi guy coming in clutch

[vast rock]

guys does anyone know if the current google SWE Early Career application has a constraint? It says you must be able to start in 2022. Does December 2022 count?

The job post is from 3 weeks ago so it seems new

[primal vale]

It is for ppl with at least 1 yoe

Dec counts if u qualified

[vast rock]

ah fuck

1 year

not possible

only 2 internships

[vital meteor]

The G tagged is useless

The G question I was asked didnt even have any upvotes

[vast rock]

how would u prep for google then if thats the case

[dusty basin]

those won't help at all

you'd be better off just doing b75 and neetcode/sean prashad

[vital meteor]

Just know the common patterns and common graph algos

[vast rock]

hmm fair i agree

[dusty basin]

for graphs btw, i'd recommend algomonster

[vital meteor]

I got a trie question so prob review that too

[dusty basin]

other than that, the above resources should cover everything else u need

[dusty basin]

tries are covered in those so u should be good

[vast rock]

heck I am kinda desperate idk if I should apply to the 2022 Google Early Career one that requires 1 yoe and needs to start in 2022. I can technically make it work. Not sure if they can let me pass the 1 yoe check tho

[dusty basin]

you'll be resume rejected

internships don't count as exp

[vast rock]

🥲

DAMMIT

freaking Meta

UGh

[dusty basin]

you'll be fine

just apply and prep

meta isn't the only company in the world

[vast rock]

nah im just caught off guard

[vital meteor]

Come to the dark side

[dusty basin]

look at the bright side

u have a ton of time

[grizzled bronze]

If you got Meta, you can still get a lot better companies

[vast rock]

I turned down offers to be with meta, i regret my decision now

[grizzled bronze]

Meta is good in your resume

[dusty basin]

hindsight is 20/20

[grizzled bronze]

You can also contact the offers you reneged and potentially still get them, some people have done that successfully

[vast rock]

I have been to the dark side

[dusty basin]

chill

[dusty basin]

i assume they mean internship

[potent yacht]

lmao im the opposite, got cucked by amazon for some reasons outside of my control for return offer, felt hella sadge but ended full time meta

[vast rock]

yeah those are intenr offers not the same

yees

[dusty basin]

how's pip going

[potent yacht]

at meta? didnt start yet

lmao

starting my job soon XD

[grizzled bronze]

Metamates

[dusty basin]

rip

[vast rock]

yeah pip is coming down and i have a feeling my intern manager gon be it but like hopefully not cuz the guy is nice

[potent yacht]

prolly no pip at meta

fake news

[vast rock]

Motto: Meta, Metamates, and Me. Except meta and metamates don't want me

[dusty basin]

lol meta interns and employees confirmed

zucc said himself during all hands

[potent yacht]

i mean "raising the bar" doesnt mean pip quotas lol

[dusty basin]

bruh

he literally said they are weeding out ppl "who shouldn't be here"

[potent yacht]

in the context of people asking for more shit about how to make it a day care lmao

its cuz during covid they lowered the bar

now its coming back up

apparently

not for interviews but for psc

[dusty basin]

pip is everywhere. its just quotas that are bs

[potent yacht]

exactly

[dusty basin]

but zucc's new policy is def aimed at cutting workforce

[potent yacht]

people who think meta is gonna become like amazon just copium lmao

but who knows

[dusty basin]

so quite a few ppl are gonna be let go

[dusty basin]

amazon pip def overblown

[potent yacht]

hard to say, if thats the case they wouldn't reduce hiring goals only by 30%

[potent yacht]

i agree prolly

anecdotally a lot of teams are fine tbh

but who knows

[dusty basin]

only time will tell ig

[vast rock]

@jagged ravine tbh I got meta pretty early last year like october, only interviewed like 2 other places, and then just stopped lc altogether. I don't remember shit so this gon be a rough ride

[potent yacht]

also anyone know if its worth commuting from sf to south bay

but is south bay that boring tho

well menlo park lol

i mean i have shuttles tho so

ya

[vast rock]

the shuttles are pretty nice

its right out side my corp housing

I wonder if I get GE i will be sure to get an offer

i think im around EE right now

[potent yacht]

kinda wanted to but there was no head count lol

i went to nyc it was quite chaotic and nasty and a lot of mentally unwell ppl roaming around at least in manhattan lol

but im from canada so sf prolly same tbh

[bleak raven]

chaos 😈😈😈😈😈

it’s fun

yolo

[potent yacht]

lmao

[sonic coral]

What part of the city were you in lmao

[potent yacht]

times square?

lmao

around there

[sonic coral]

Lmfaooo of course

That’s literally the worst part of the city

[potent yacht]

chelsea was chill though

[sonic coral]

Just tourists and hustlers

[potent yacht]

yeah no cap

i mean even the subway tho

sometimes there are mentally unwell ppl

i guess u could just stay away lol

[sonic coral]

Yeah bro you gotta go to Chelsea, EV, soho etc

Oh the subways getting worse for sure

[potent yacht]

yeah prolly

[sonic coral]

There’s always been subway crackheads

But lately the subway’s been pretty sus

[potent yacht]

yeah but also unavoidable in general if u live in nyc

the subway

[sonic coral]

Nah you can take the bus or walk lol

[potent yacht]

oh i guess lol

is it worth going to nyc over bay

[sonic coral]

At least until it hopefully gets better

Subway def most convenient

[surreal shuttle]

I always feel like it's better to live in NJ than NYC

[potent yacht]

i had no choice so im going to bay lol, thinking of transferring to nyc office after a year

[sonic coral]

Assuming you mean jersey city/Hoboken and not like Clifton or some shit

It’s better tax wise and rent wise yeah, whether or not you prefer living there will be up to you ultimately

[potent yacht]

compared to bay???

[sonic coral]

Uhhh we’re talking JC vs NY lol

Where’d bay come in

[potent yacht]

oh

right

i mean i visited nyc and i guess u could live in newark right

oh but thats not jersey city

[sonic coral]

Bro why in the actual fuck would you live in Newark willingly

[potent yacht]

u could commute into nyc right

[sonic coral]

Newark is literally a shithole

[potent yacht]

lmao

oh fr

but its cheaper?

idk

LOL

[sonic coral]

Alright bro go live in Newark

[potent yacht]

idk i dont live there so

just heard ppl were commuting from there

[sonic coral]

Well yeah people commute to ny from all over

Doesn’t mean you should live there

You can work in the city and live in east ny as well

Also wouldn’t recommend that lmao

[potent yacht]

fair enough

[dense blaze]

[thorn river]

If you live near the colleges in newark, I can't imagine it being that bad. I don't think it'll be saving much though since that area is nicer. There are also plenty of spots in NJ with relatively short commutes by car/bus that do not include Hoboken/JC where it can be a lot cheaper for rent. Just depends what you're looking for

[sonic coral]

Yeah I mean if youre fine with spending more time in jersey than ny then there’s def other options

[dense blaze]

Newark is goated

[sonic coral]

Idk about Newark tho lmao

[thorn river]

I lived in the dorms there and it was fine

[sonic coral]

I mean dorms are one thing lol

[dense blaze]

Damn lucky af

I should’ve applied to Audible Newark…

[sonic coral]

EC why are you a Newark simp

[dense blaze]

Cuz it’s goated

[thorn river]

Yeah you got the college cops circling around all the time loll but that area is nice. I would walk around alone and never felt unsafe

[sonic coral]

Yeah but you’re prob quite limited where you wanna go if you don’t wanna go to the sus areas tho right

You mean THE one and only, GOLDMAN SACHS?

[thorn river]

Yeah I wouldn't wander too far off, but I've walked to both train stations (Newark Penn and newark broad st) and that was okay

[sonic coral]

Lmfao whatttt

[surreal shuttle]

What are these areas?

[livid yew]

Goldman sacks?

[jaunty basalt]

We know too much about gold mansacks

[round sluice]

Goldman snacks ?

[errant karma]

I am interning there at the moment

[thorn river]

Central Jersey, it's really safe, suburban. NYC can be 20-45 min away. You can actually take the train too (northeast corridor). There's options and greenery is nice to see

[young peak]

Goldfish snacks?

[ripe socket]

Goldfish smacks?

[young peak]

Globdish smacks?

[calm shale]

Goldfish smiles back?

[green bronze]

Wait ur at meta rn?

[fleet flame]

Gold Man's Sack?

anyone heard of blackrock? why's their pay so low?

like what?

[surreal shuttle]

Did terrible in Citadel OA 😭😭

[ripe socket]

What's this web site?

[fleet flame]

levels.fyi

[winter valley]

levels.fyi

[fleet flame]

fyi.levels

[ripe socket]

Ah thanks

[vast rock]

citadel does oa first then resume screen right? it's ok if they reject u just tell urself mayb they would have ghosted anyway due to resume screen

[surreal shuttle]

Yeah, they will reject me as soon as they see my GPA

[green bronze]

I thought u was going to dd ripppp

[plush isle]

Whats on it

[green bronze]

LMFAO black rock

Good luck Charlie

[exotic oracle]

I quit after the first black rock wuestion in oa

Because the input was the worst thing ever

No one provides input like that man 💀

[green bronze]

What was the input

[exotic oracle]

It was literally like one line of like

10 different inputs

But all on one line

[green bronze]

They got questions available on it?

[exotic oracle]

That was only part of the problem

It’s like instead of being able to do maximum depth of binary tree with a given constructed tree

They give you a string of the tree

You need to construct the tree

[green bronze]

LMFAO

[exotic oracle]

And then do thsy

[green bronze]

I know the questions ur talking about it then

Fuck that

[exotic oracle]

uh

[green bronze]

Not a single line of code?

What’s the title?

Were you hired to code?

Sounds like a marketing internship ngl

Or business maybe

You’re definitely gonna get asked about if it passes resume screening

[sonic coral]

Like 80% of my amazon internship was flowcharts and UML

Was week 8 till I started coding

[vital meteor]

First week done @amazon and I mostly watched videos and setup my environment lol

[green bronze]

It happens mane, I always suggest spinning it in the resume, if you’re verbose enough you can make it sound more techy but if anyone asks just say you were trying something different but your heart lies with software

Never screwed

[sonic coral]

I mean that has less to do with scale and more to do with infosec policies lol

But like leave it on your resume, spice up the wording for what you did

[green bronze]

Does google down level?

[verbal sorrel]

I’m assuming you mean for example being an a higher level like E5 at Facebook and getting L4 at Google. If so, yes it does happen. This depends on your YOE and interview performance. The key thing to remember that internal levels are abstract and differ company to company.

[dire yarrow]

[sonic coral]

What city

MTL?

Oh gotcha yeah I know Montreal just didn’t know the abbreviation lol

Isn’t most the tech in Vancouver or Toronto

Is there not many remote friendly tech cos in Canada

Like if you find a remote friendly zon team

Based in Vancouver

[fleet flame]

Yeah fuck that. Ain’t even gonna bother with that

[young peak]

Bro you actually got into Twilio?

Someone survived the ahoys damn

Wait fr? Kinda cringe ngl

Just thought it was those emails

[pastel bane]

hello, does anyone know how much leetcode problems I'd better to solve to get a DS job?

I think its requirement is not as high as the SDE jobs, isn't it?

my dream company is indeed, has anyone taken its interview before?

[young peak]

honestly a good majority of us are SWE so we don't have good advice lmao but its prob the same just that you might have a DS round

[pastel bane]

thank you, have you taken this company's interview before?

thank you, do you remember where it is?

I thought you mean kaggle but I dont know if I can practice interview there

[young peak]

I got resumed

It happens

Don't just stick to one company, make sure you're going at it at all of em

[pastel bane]

its so difficult to find a ds job community.

[young peak]

Join the kaggle discord, there's surely more jobs there

https://discord.gg/2M3q7GkCCC

Also the cscareer hub

https://discord.gg/R3xnANPu

[pastel bane]

thank you, I joined kaggle discord before but there is no job searching channel.

ok, I see some people posted jobs on general channel, thanks

[rain patio]

Does anyone else give up during an OA after reading the question and not having an idea of how to solve them immediately ?

[fleet flame]

No

Cause the interviewer will provide u with hints

[rain patio]

OA

[fleet flame]

And if u can get it with hints u have a chance

Oh.

Not really

[young peak]

Only time I ever quit an OA was flexport

Honestly fuck triplebyte and anyone that uses it

[coarse quiver]

[rain patio]

If I remember correctly… you’re built different.

[dense blaze]

Publicis Sapient OA was shit as well

[young peak]

Oh fuck that company in particular

[dense blaze]

Yeah they roasted my grades lmfao

[young peak]

I mean I did pretty shit in some OAs, especially the early ones

[young peak]

did you send your transcript? or did you even apply?

[dense blaze]

I applied and sent my transcript

Got OA but fuck those questions

[rough ruin]

i did shitty in almost all OAs

codesignal is auto L for me

[exotic oracle]

Yeah fuck em they literally didn’t show up to my interview last year 💀

[gleaming fable]

its different for everyone

there's people here who did 20 LC probs and got into FAANG, people who do over 300 and didn't get into any of them. Not DS but you get the idea

You just do as many as you need to until you fully understand all the main concepts

[rough ruin]

its less about how many you do and more about how good your RNG is

[dusty basin]

DS interviews don’t really ask LC

It’s usually SQL, python libraries, and R to process data given to you

Some questions about ML and DS concepts

Regex

Cleaning and munging

Etc

I would suggest looking at the DS posts on the discuss section on LC @pastel bane

Should give u an idea of what to expect

[young peak]

munge on DN

[dusty basin]

Smh I’m tryna help ppl here and u just can’t stop being a 5 yr old

Cringe

[primal pike]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-cringe-dies-from-cringe-meme-star-wars-meme-gif-22116997

[young peak]

Damn you do it everyday and its okay

i do it once and I'm cringe

sadge

[exotic oracle]

damn the citadel OA q2 just shat on me 💀

4/15 on q2

got q1 tho

[young peak]

Cit OAs are rough right

Just wait until the onsite

[dusty basin]

Been a while since I made a DN joke tho

[young peak]

rough day bud

cut me some slack

[dusty basin]

Real world doesn’t cut u slack and neither do I

[young peak]

Ain't that the truth

[cold relic]

When do the new grad applications for FAANG companies come out?

specifically looking for DS/Product Analytics roles

[young peak]

Why not SWE roles?

Also they come out mid/late August

A few companies are already out like Zon, Cit etc

[cold relic]

haha just my career interests. I knew that the applications come out usually in the fall for internships--wasn't sure if that was the case for full time too

[exotic oracle]

bro that akuna c++ oa ....

never felt less confident in my understanding of a programmig language ever 💀

[surreal shuttle]

Same

[lunar hatch]

Just wondering what is the standard for greylock

Got in last year but rejected this year

With 3 internships

[primal vale]

this is always a blackbox like college admission and company hiring

with certain criteria but full of randomness

[grizzled bronze]

Ot

It's random

[hazy aspen]

how helpful was it last year based on your exp?

[primal vale]

to reduce the randomness and statistically meaningful, you have to throw the dice hundreds of times

[pastel bane]

thanks, do you know what mle jobs will ask?

[dusty basin]

I do not. But again, the leetcode discuss section should give you some insight. Plus there’s this repo that should help in both MLE and DS interviews: https://github.com/alexeygrigorev/data-science-interviews

[pastel bane]

thank you very much!

[pallid kernel]

how did u get citadel OA alrdy

[fleet flame]

They send it to everyone

[inner prawn]

@candid juniper do you go to an Ivy? Or top ranked school?

[candid juniper]

i am from india and go to an IIT, so yeah, top ranked here, but nowhere near the IVYs :]

[inner prawn]

Damn, I would say IIT is on par with ivies, that’s amazing

[candid juniper]

thats a long shot ig 😅
but thanks, some confidence boost after rejection yesterday :]

[rain swan]

you in India rn or in US ?

[candid juniper]

india

[rain patio]

Gaslighting

[lunar hatch]

Not very much tbh

I got interviews from nuro and stripe but both were really late

Like mid October

So not sure if that actually came from greylock or just applying online

[white escarp]

when will u graduate?

idk if graduation matters in the application

I think i have a decent chance to get accepted but 🤷‍♂️

[lunar hatch]

Dec 2022

Not sure if it’s the case

[exotic oracle]

lol

if you get lucky like me for my intern interview last year youll et 2 easy

but then get cucked in team match 💀

[winter loom]

for ppl who got amazon referrals how long did it take for you to get the application email?

[frail wolf]

Google ghosts to much

[sudden sequoia]

in a couple days?

[white escarp]

Same lol

[bleak raven]

i already accepted the google offer no more left sorry

[inner prawn]

Google doesn’t ghost me, I ghost Google

[stoic belfry]

anyones Amazon app move from Submitted to Under Consideration yet?

[sudden sequoia]

nope

idk if anyone has gotten an OA yet either

[hazy gull]

hows the math on goldman oa

[sage sluice]

how do yall december grads find companies/postings with good start dates

[inner prawn]

Lol I’m the only one who would pog react tgs

[inner prawn]

Ez

[hazy gull]

was it just lin alg or what

[inner prawn]

For swe? I was just asked 2 LC mediums, one of them required like algebra 2 at most

[hazy gull]

Well isnt there a math section too

[inner prawn]

I didn’t have a math section for mine, maybe you’re applying for quant or strats?

[hazy gull]

quant i think

Alright thanks

[green bronze]

Real talk has anyone had any experience with those “nice” looking resumes?

[dense blaze]

Huh

[green bronze]

The aesthetically appealing ones

I use an ATS approved one and it works for me but I was just wondering if I’m going to be sending my resume directly to recruiters is the aesthetic ones better

Ones with color and shit

[dense blaze]

A couple Colours won’t hurt anyone

But I’d rather concentrate on phrasing my experience well instead of making it aesthetically pleasing

[green bronze]

I should prolly just ask the recruiters at my workplace tbh

They prolly know best

[forest lodge]

when we getting a #2023 grad process channel

[dense blaze]

Patience is a virtue

[winter loom]

was there a way you could see how your resume fared against an ats?

[green bronze]

Prolly a website out there but if you want the fastest way just post it here and people will tell you quickly 😂😂

[young peak]

Yeah just keep 2 but usually a clean ATS friendly resume can also look good enough to be sent to a recruiter

I'd rather see something normal than a resume that just got tossed into a colorwheel

[pallid kernel]

is jakes resume ATS friendly

[sonic coral]

I use color on my ats resume but sparingly

[loud harness]

Is there a channel for 2023 grad postings?

[sour night]

Does the code signal trick still work? I remember ppl started getting shafted for the fall ppl

[quartz plinth]

what trick?

[cedar zodiac]

I think there's a unlimited codesignal somewhere in this server

[quartz plinth]

last year there was the square one

not sure if that's still the one

[chilly burrow]

Yes

[surreal shuttle]

What is ATS?

[chilly burrow]

Applicant tracking system

[crystal sinew]

Above is the meaning, but basically it's used here to refer to the automatic resume parsing programs companies use, since they have to sift through so many applicants

Certain formats of resumes are easier for these programs to read and will probably be more successful at getting interviews

[young peak]

Hi guys I'm new and I want a job at a FAANG!!! I don't have any internships, research work, projects, TA exp, freelance or anything like that. I'm actually not a CS major either, but a gender studies major instead. My GPA is a 2.3, just barely enough to graduate. I don't have a github account. I haven't done an LC question in my life. People are talking about guy called neetcode? idk.

Anyway. I want to get into ALL of the faangs so I can flex on it in class. What can I do in 2 weeks that can guarantee my acceptance?!?!?

Note: I also want all offers to be above 200k+ minimum!!!

[slate bobcat]

Hi guys I'm new and I want a job at a FAANG!!! I don't have any internships, research work, projects, TA exp, freelance or anything like that. I'm actually not a CS major either, but a gender studies major instead. My GPA is a 2.3, just barely enough to graduate. I don't have a github account. I haven't done an LC question in my life. People are talking about guy called neetcode? idk.

Anyway. I want to get into ALL of the faangs so I can flex on it in class. What can I do in 2 weeks that can guarantee my acceptance?!?!?

Note: I also want all offers to be above 200k+ minimum!!!

[undone reef]

thoughts on accepting a return offer from company A (my internship rn but not guaranteed Xd) but then later on this year I happen to get a better offer at company B, should I renege

[exotic oracle]

Lol just do it

Idk if companies actuslly blacklist you for reneging but I think most don’t

[dusty basin]

Buy my course

[exotic oracle]

And they wouldn’t think twice to fire you if they needed to make cuts so fuck then and do what’s best for you

[verbal sorrel]

No

[pallid kernel]

why not

[verbal sorrel]

Because I’m Jake and I deem it so

[pallid kernel]

wait you created the resume template

holy shit

its you

[verbal sorrel]

No I’m just kidding

@dusty basin gottem

[undone reef]

ok dad

[dusty basin]

full timers making me proud

[grizzled bronze]

The person who created it used to be here

Jake doesn't even use his own resume template anymore, he uses a simple resume https://jakegut.com/resume.pdf

[pallid kernel]

lmao thats kinda sad

i think his original template looks better than the simple resume one

[nocturne oriole]

Bro that’s jake

He can pick what he wants

He defines the industry standard

What do u define

Nothing that’s what

[young peak]

Jeez Kirb coming in what that smoke

Wait that's not the actual Jakes resume guy is it?

[glossy pendant]

It is

[young peak]

dude is way less cracked than I thought lmao

[dusty basin]

@young peak bro

Chill

Lol

Also

[glossy pendant]

Kinda toxic

[dusty basin]

Go fucking pack

[glossy pendant]

[dusty basin]

I’m tellin u bro

Yogi hella toxic

[glossy pendant]

Mfs get google ONCE

[dusty basin]

Lol

[pallid kernel]

:( why so mean

[glad thunder]

Is it possible to get an internship or ng with just a cs minor

[glossy pendant]

It’s possible, yes

[jaunty basalt]

I have job, I have cs minor

[glad thunder]

I just like it’d be harder to pass resume screen

Oh that’s dope

[jaunty basalt]

What’s ur major

Cuz I’m ECE so CS minor is freebie

Also it seems u have good internship, I think you are fine regardless

[dusky lance]

can anyone send the quant server link

[jaunty basalt]

But if u are asking in the broader sense then yeah u probably still need technical major

[glad thunder]

Nah I’m a cs major I’m trying to get my friend a cs internship with cs minor

[exotic oracle]

Kinda depends on your major and role you’re going for, but good projects and experience help a lot

If they are like a math major that’s probs preferred for ML roles tbh

[vapid monolith]

What questions do you guys think would be great to ask an interviewer when it's the candidate's turn to ask the questions?

[inner prawn]

Lmaooooo

@frail wolf yeah fake news

Time to pack your bags

[dry plume]

Something I liked asking depending on their tenure: long tenure -> what makes you stay at x short tenure -> what do you like about x over prev job

[young peak]

All it takes is one time b

[sonic coral]

I feel like a switch flips once someone signs a 250k+ offer

[glossy pendant]

I didn’t flip a switch

[young peak]

Once you taste the avocado toast in your 1bd high-rise, there really is no going back

[glossy pendant]

U forgot the Starbucks drink with the equinox gym membership

[sonic coral]

It do be wildin how I basically lived in a glorified prison cell a few months back and now im seriously considering high rises with floor to ceiling windows lmao

[dusty basin]

Nah bro. The toxicity just gets amplified with @young peak

[frail wolf]

Wait what

I’m confused

[inner prawn]

@frail wolf did you really get all those phones

And are you doing it at the same time?

[bleak raven]

someone from meta just told me their manager is still giving them a return offer??

fact or cap

[glossy pendant]

They said the decisions are delayed so could be true

[drifting pelican]

When should I start applying for jobs?

[dense blaze]

[drifting pelican]

Is there a list of companies that have the new grad apps out?

What is r/csMajors?

[ripe socket]

Reddit lol

[drifting pelican]

oh yeah right haha

Awesome Thanks!!!

Does this github get updated as new applications open?

Ok so this should be my goto

Also, do companies do spring internships?

When does application for that usually start?

[exotic oracle]

It’s also pinned here

[rigid quail]

@pulsar mural end the recession bro it's not funny anymore

[mystic berry]

was wondering if i should start applying for FT jobs now when i still have a year and a half before i graduate

[frail wolf]

Yea

[frail wolf]

Wdym?

Like I’m doing most over the next 2 weeks

[rain patio]

any benefit to taking math test for sachs?

[white escarp]

I swear everytime u came back to the channel u got like bunch of interviews/offers

sick sick

[frail wolf]

Hahaha it’s just that time of year

[drifting pelican]

Did you already get offers?

[frail wolf]

Nah none yet

Hopefully in a few weeks if I don’t shit the bed

[drifting pelican]

Which ones have you applied to?

[frail wolf]

Everywhere I listed in the process channel

And akuna

But I’m legitimately akuna blacklisted

So didn’t get an interview there lol

[drifting pelican]

The 2022 grad process channel?

[frail wolf]

Yea that one

There’s no 2023 one so tossed them there

Who knows

I wish I did

[inner prawn]

@frail wolf new grad? From an Ivy? Or do you have good experience

[drifting pelican]

did you complete those phone interviews or do you have an appt?

[inner prawn]

How do you get past all those resume screens

[frail wolf]

New grad yea, good experience, shit school

[frail wolf]

Done about half of them so far, the other half are scheduled

[frail wolf]

Depends tbh, I don’t have a high hit rate on ones I do the online application for

[inner prawn]

Oh did they reach out to you?

Or do you mean you got referrals

[frail wolf]

I cold email a lot, some referrals, some reach out

Mix of things but almost no online applications

[rain patio]

how do you get email addresses for cold emails?

never done that

[coarse quiver]

Get CIT and cb on resume

[frail wolf]

Recruiters from previous applications, LinkedIn

[coarse quiver]

• 2 other internships

[frail wolf]

Mostly that

Some are just regular careers emails

[inner prawn]

Yeah that’ll do it

[drifting pelican]

Whats CIT and cb?

[clear basin]

Anyone do Applied Intuition recruiter phone yet?

[grizzled bronze]

CIT = Citadel
CB = Coinbase

[slate bobcat]

What’s citadel and coinbase?

[inner prawn]

How much was citadel intern pay per month

[coarse quiver]

20k

[frail wolf]

Haha no

I wish

https://www.levels.fyi/internships/Citadel/Software-Engineer-Intern/

What for

You drank my whisky and ciroc

Yea get Ben

What’d he give you

LMAOO

[coarse quiver]

[frail wolf]

Just come to citsec office

Pull up

[coarse quiver]

If you count all the perks + salary, cit is not 20k/m?

[frail wolf]

LMAO

[coarse quiver]

I call cap

[frail wolf]

Okay if you count rent and shit too then maybe

[coarse quiver]

• bonus

[frail wolf]

Not sure cause coi

[coarse quiver]

You must have a juicy bonus right

[frail wolf]

Conflict of Interest

LMAO could work

[coarse quiver]

CoI

[drifting pelican]

oh man you interned at citadel?

[coarse quiver]

He is interning there

[frail wolf]

Yea I am

[coarse quiver]

On discord during work hours

[frail wolf]

Shhhh

That

Is true

[inner prawn]

Wow, expected it to be more than what I’m making

Ofc that’s crazy just for an internship tho

[drifting pelican]

Is the actual interview at Citadel as hard as their OA?

[coarse quiver]

Are cit interns going to gym

AC's traders*

[frail wolf]

Subtle flex

Jk yea it’s fucked for an internship but the bonuses come for ft

[coarse quiver]

Do you feel at your place at cit mr hexis?

No imposter syndrome

Are u a god mr yahkub?

Too

[inner prawn]

Yeah the ft return offer is crazy

[frail wolf]

Always imposter syndrome

[coarse quiver]

Why?

[frail wolf]

Who knows

But I can do the work well enough

So I guess that’s what matters

[hard flare]

anyone know about ssb research group? couldn't find anything on here/blind

[bronze nymph]

yea, I was going to say, half of these places don't even have apps

gl with the interviews 🐐

[inner prawn]

@frail wolf I’m not sure if this is true but I heard you only get 1 try at TGS

For life

[coarse quiver]

Tgs?

[frail wolf]

Tyty

[frail wolf]

Have heard that as well but also I generally don’t buy it haha

[inner prawn]

And to get accepted every member has to unanimously vote you in. But they have a small office in Irvine and very secretive, just some stuff I heard. But they pay 7 figs for some senior talent

[frail wolf]

Like if you’re good they’ll reinterview you

[frail wolf]

They definitely do

Very hard to get in

Very high tc

[coarse quiver]

Rentech , going to follow simpryaser

Mr hexis

[inner prawn]

Lol pls lmk how the interviews go, and gl! @frail wolf

[frail wolf]

Ty, and yea fs will do

Haha down one day

But citadel food is free

Can’t this week or next, have meetings and phone rounds basically every day

[sudden sequoia]

is citadel oa auto?

[inner prawn]

I believe so. I think they resume screen after OA

[coarse quiver]

Yes

[frail wolf]

A couple quants

Where’d you have your screens at

It is really early lmao

[gleaming fable]

yeah most big tech companies won't open till earlyish august

[sharp stream]

If a recruiter wants to go on a call to tell me more about a program should I just expect them to give a little presentation about it? Should I expect for them to ask me questions like in an interview?

[fleet kiln]

Does anyone know what's in the rentech phone

[gleaming fable]

def have a few questions ready to go

[sudden sequoia]

well i applied sometime last week and no oa soooo

[frail wolf]

Dm me

Yea still early for tech companies

[inner prawn]

Could take longer

[tidal grotto]

Hey guys, for a person graduating in spring 2023, when should they start applying to companies?

[dense zodiac]

as soon as companies start posting their jobs

which is usually august

[gleaming fable]

Like gamja said, new grad hiring is by academic year so you should start applying in august when big tech applications open up

[ornate drift]

does anyone know how long you can typically hold out doing Amazon's OA? nvm found out, 5 days after receipt email

[tidal grotto]

Thank you. My original grad date is fall 2023 (planning on summer 2023 internship). But I’m thinking of graduating in spring 2023 (if I get a good job). Do you know if I can apply to both internship and job opportunities at companies?

[verbal sorrel]

Bruh rentech phone 🗿

How

[crystal delta]

is akuna oa auto?

[sharp stream]

Ok thanks

[fleet kiln]

I'm just that good 😎

Jk I'm like average I only have 3 internships

[rigid quail]

for newgrad?

crazy

[fleet kiln]

Wdym

[rustic rover]

For google L3 how many follow ups per round are there typically? For me I had 1 easy initial question then they changed it up to make it easy/medium. was there a 3rd follow up I wasn’t getting to?

[fleet kiln]

Waterloo?

[exotic oracle]

every single waterloo has the mostg cracked resume

its insane bro 💀

[jaunty basalt]

i feel like theyll tell you before anything, i wouldnt worry about it

[fleet kiln]

Yeah they can basically do 6 internships without having to impact their grad date

[rustic vessel]

It’s 5 years though I thought

[exotic oracle]

ok but dude

[fleet kiln]

Yeah they have an extra year for their program though

[exotic oracle]

its 6 internships 💀

[jaunty basalt]

if u fear that u are broderline somehow then u might get another interview

[fleet kiln]

Yeah that's only possible at waterloo without screwing over your grad date

[rustic vessel]

I’ll hit 4 after this fall…

[rustic rover]

Yea I think I either failed or will get another interview

[rustic rover]

I’m just curious if they typically ask 3 questions or not

[exotic oracle]

n ah its too expensive

[fleet kiln]

Take a gap year and do spring /summer / fall internships

[exotic oracle]

nah ive got 1 sem left

[fleet kiln]

Eg cit/hrt/js

Then go insta rentech

[exotic oracle]

its not worth imo

also too late for fall shit

so id need to like take a year gap

[coarse quiver]

I'm pretty average too. I interned at every single hft firm since middle school

[exotic oracle]

also what is rentech

[coarse quiver]

A low tier hft firm

[fleet kiln]

Google "medallion fund"

[exotic oracle]

hft seems so boring

all of fintech really

[fleet kiln]

Hft isnt fintech

[rustic vessel]

Hft pays bank tho

[exotic oracle]

yeah but like

also hard af to get into

[coarse quiver]

No it's pretty ez

[fleet kiln]

Work at faang -> trading firm -> profit??

[exotic oracle]

and after akuna ate my ass

i dont want to attempt again 💀

[coarse quiver]

Just be a Harvard student, usaco, usamo, ioi winner, prev g intern

[fleet kiln]

Wait not every trading firm has the same interview process tho

[exotic oracle]

ik ill probs apply but im not holding out

[fleet kiln]

Why did you call it boring then lol

[exotic oracle]

because fr a 300k+ i bet they are way harder

because it does seem boring?

lol

ill apply regardless but idk if id take it unless it was a looooooooooooooot better of an offer

[fleet kiln]

Like what specifically about it?

[exotic oracle]

well 1 its working for banks/hedge funds

which are all just cringe

so are big tech companies

[fleet kiln]

But that doesnt affect the actual work you do

[exotic oracle]

but working on vr/ar is actualyl interesting to me

[fleet kiln]

Dont you need a phd for those

[exotic oracle]

uh

depends on the role

if you wanna be head honcho of research

probs

[fleet kiln]

Since most are ar vr stuff is research related

[exotic oracle]

maybe

[fleet kiln]

Unless your saying you want to do more infra work?

[exotic oracle]

but not necessarily

like working on a rendering/game engine

i dont think that necessarikly equates to research

[sonic coral]

I mean I could care less what I work on as long as I’m getting paid well tbh

[exotic oracle]

working on the quest is probs not research

[fleet kiln]

So computer graphics programming then is what you want to go into?

[exotic oracle]

yeah

vr/ar is just more interesting than reg rendering

buit even web dev i dont find super fun to do

tho i dont mind it

[rustic vessel]

Meta recruiting rn

[exotic oracle]

bro i know 💀

valve only hires seniors

from what ive seen

also even their apps say no new grad positions

idk of they take mid level tho

i mean id take any position in swe if i had to

im not gonna be jobless lmfao

but i def have strong preferences

[sharp plume]

What’s TGS

[exotic oracle]

like ill take a full stack/backend roll but using ruby on rails in a course i had was kinda boring af to me

[fleet kiln]

It's a smaller trading firm
https://github.com/quantprep/quantnewgrad2022 has some good ones

[sharp plume]

I wish there was a version of that for DS

[fleet kiln]

well if you want just apply to all those firms as a trader

since thats basically DS

[sharp plume]

yea that’s the plan but I don’t just want to target quant 😅

[fleet kiln]

oh why?

[sharp plume]

I’m trying to cast a wide net

Quant is cool tho

[fleet kiln]

wait was this a joke?

[bleak relic]

Has anyone done codepath interview prep? How do they measure performance on their OA to get into the actual program?

[sharp plume]

Say a position doesn’t ask for any years of experience but it also doesn’t give any indication that it’s a new grad role, should I apply?

or is it not worth it

[primal pike]

[fleet flame]

what do u have to lose other than the few seconds of applying?

[sharp plume]

Idk how blacklisting works and I don’t want to be blacklisted

[fleet flame]

if they dont wanna interview u, they just reject u there

why would they blacklist u?

[sharp plume]

I kind of messed up applying to citadel like that

[fleet flame]

some companies just have policies where u cant apply again within a certain time frame

thats not a blacklist

[sharp plume]

oh yea

that’s what I meant whoops

but if I get rejected for that position will I not be able to apply for any other role in the company if that company has that policy

[covert pecan]

Is it bad to apply for jobs right when they open up? Like will my application get lost cuz i applied so early?

[dusty basin]

No

[covert pecan]

Would it be better to apply right when they open up or later on?

[gleaming fable]

earlier on, preferably on the company's site and not through a job board

[covert pecan]

Should I message recruiters before applying?

[dusty basin]

Meh

[gleaming fable]

not necessary unless you're not getting a response at all from your normal application

[dusty basin]

Worth a shot

Bc ur not really short on time tbh

[gleaming fable]

yeah if you really want to it won't hurt

[dusty basin]

In terms of app cycle

[covert pecan]

Is there anything i can do to maximize my chances than

other than getting a ref

[gleaming fable]

honestly nothing much besides just making sure your resume gets parsed well by ATS

[dusty basin]

Idk. Do some “favors” for CEOs?

[gleaming fable]

for new grads its a whole lotta luck

[dusty basin]

Just gotta get ur resume perfect then pray to RNG gods

Once u make it past resume screen, interview performance is all u

[covert pecan]

Are there online parsers to check my resume before applying

[bleak raven]

are j.p. morgan applications out yet

someone told me they’re changing new grad salary to 150k

[frank wedge]

What favors for Lrt?

[dusty basin]

I will tell u in DM

[dense blaze]

Im the CEO

[fleet flame]

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/vw3czh/warning_for_renegotiating_based_on_multiple/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

thots?

bunch of people say dont negotiate if it is ur first job

[iron lily]

If it’s your first internship, then sure. But in my experience, any reputable company will be willing to negotiate

[rigid quail]

only negotiate if you have other offers, otherwise it's really not worth the effort

most companies mentioned around here are more than okay with negotiating and in fact you will be underpaid if you don't

[exotic oracle]

I don’t think they would even negotiate without another offer right?

Like you could lie but I assume they ask for some proof? Maybe I’m wrong tho

[rigid quail]

but more unknown and smaller companies with questionable management might not respond as positively just like that post says

[fleet flame]

what about internship return offer that u havent officially received yet?

i'll have my internship's return offer in October, but looking to negotiate with bloomberg soon

or like at least talk to them about the offer

and my manager has explicitly said that she wants me back next year and that i've gone above expectations

[waxen bolt]

Did anyone else get a glitch on amazon that their application was incomplete? If so how did y'all fix it?

[surreal shuttle]

show screenshot

[fleet flame]

same

i didnt fix it

emailed amazon and they said they will look into it

[waxen bolt]

Don’t have a screenshot of the portal bc I withdrew the application but this the email

Also don’t withdraw if if you get this error. I can’t seem to reapply now

[fleet flame]

try with another email i guess

i also asked Amazon if i should withdraw and apply again with another email and was told not to withdraw

[glad thunder]

Yah if you withdraw you can’t be considered for the job anymore so try another email