2023_grads

[exotic oracle]

didnt take any courses abotu it either

liek software design courses

[glad thunder]

Yah same but I can’t imagine that it will be complex for ng

That’d be harsh

[dusty basin]

You’ll either get OOD or basic sys design

Not like they’ll ask you to design Twitter or sth

[chilly burrow]

This isn't the generic role tho

[dusty basin]

Probably just those design an elevator system or parking lot thing

[chilly burrow]

https://boards.greenhouse.io/vanta/jobs/5963148002

[formal wing]

Hi everyone. I’m new here. I see that people communicate with each other a lot here, but I can’t read all of it. How can I make sure that I don’t miss anything important?

[chilly burrow]

90% of it is unimportant lmao

[vital meteor]

Just discord 24/7

[chilly burrow]

Fr tho, most of the important info will be referenced multiple times. So no need for fomo

[primal vale]

in: 2022_grads in: 2023_grads has: link has: embed has: file has: image

[mystic pebble]

Resume rejected for swe?

[young peak]

Wow lumen I always knew you sucked

Named algo interviews? 🤮

New low

[dusty basin]

Lol

Too lazy to make fun of u yogster so I’ll let that slide

As always lumen taking the high road while @young peak holds the L

[gleaming fable]

on top of what others are saying, the really important stuff will be pinned

[mystic pebble]

I don’t even see a role for that

[errant karma]

2022_grads spitting knowledge right now

[nocturne oriole]

ofc they are, best class in history

We literally ended covid shit market, got jobs, and ushered in a recession after us

Very presidential if u ask me

[dusty basin]

U wish

[sonic coral]

99.9% of this discord is shitposting

Occasionally people will ask questions and may get a response

[sonic coral]

Bro let’s be real we carrying this channel the 2023 bois don’t know shit

[dense blaze]

I loooooveeee the shitpost

[errant karma]

The conference channel had to be slowed because of shit posting

[sonic coral]

Full timers get slowed all the time when kirb feels like it

[errant karma]

According to kirb it made it hard to find free swag

[errant karma]

I mean it is a privilege they are still here

[young peak]

Search feature is your friend

@dusty basin

[dusty basin]

what

[young peak]

talk

[dusty basin]

fo

@young peak fucking talk

[young peak]

I am bitch wtf

you're the one not talking

[nocturne oriole]

yo did somebody say slo mo

[quaint wing]

anyone received OA for amazon sde new grad or any idea how long it could take?

[grizzled bronze]

It's random
Keep applying to other places in the meantime, a lot more new grad apps open up closer to August

[young peak]

Kirb pls

[pallid kernel]

does anyone know when canada starts hiring for new grad 2023

[chilly burrow]

Prob August to September is when most apps will open

[pallid kernel]

damn thats pretty far in advance

wish i had more prep time :(

[dusty basin]

you'll have time between app to interview

[bleak relic]

How do you all asnswer the "Why do you want to work at XYZ company" qn which some have when applying? Any templates you follow?

[exotic oracle]

I usually go on their website and looks at their mission statement or w/e and just pick something out and say it’s something cool

[dense blaze]

[exotic oracle]

Regardless that question sucks because it’s kinda just bullshitting as best you can because honestly I just want money

[ripe socket]

"daddy?"

[dire yarrow]

Slowmode enabled

[jagged torrent]

Loool

[umbral plover]

yooooo jane street phone!

[dire yarrow]

man i'm so fucking hyped @nocturne oriole can you remove slow mode hard to have a convo wanted to start a convo about if it's possible to transfer into CS and still get a good internship before graduating

[jaunty basalt]

its possible ive seen two people do it before

[slim mortar]

man i'm so fucking hyped @Kirb 🅿ushin 🅱 can you remove slow mode hard to have a convo wanted to start a convo about if it's possible to transfer into CS and still get a good internship before graduating

[dire yarrow]

Is it over? Slowmode

Just chat in 22 grads

[rain patio]

yes. my EE friend got CE minor and is on Amazon internship now

do concurrency problems come up in interviews?

[honest cloak]

Lol

[grave garden]

Ya sometimes but really high level for NG usually unless you are applying for a low level dev position. Like what is threads, concurrency, deadlocks, locks, race conditions for example

[dense blaze]

[buoyant finch]

OS

[waxen bolt]

Did you hear anything back?

[jagged torrent]

man i'm so fucking hyped @nocturne oriole can you remove slow mode hard to have a convo wanted to start a convo about if it's possible to transfer into CS and still get a good internship before graduating

[rain patio]

man i'm so fucking hyped @nocturne oriole can you remove slow mode hard to have a convo wanted to start a convo about if it's possible to transfer into CS and still get a good internship before graduating

[sonic coral]

It’s removed

[coarse quiver]

||pltr ||

how is meta overall mr soybean?

do you use hack?

1/3 seems like a lot

I guess it would be good to compare with other languages percentage

like python/c++/js/ts

and others

only website?

or also for the mobile app

You answered the question I was going to ask

Do you plan to stay at fb if you get a return offer?

[rigid quail]

soybean thoughts on Meta's longterm trajectory?

[coarse quiver]

are you in nyc rn?

with pan?

frying pan

[rigid quail]

so is everyone here, but I'm curious your thoughts are someone on the inside

[coarse quiver]

really?

[rigid quail]

yeah I would say that as well, the last 15 years have been very very good for them

[coarse quiver]

too much cash

not sure about that

I don't think I am able to verify this assertion

It seems your are right

fb's net margin for 2021 was 33,4%

29,5% for G

7,10% for amz

[digital cosmos]

WFM, work from metaverse is the future

[coarse quiver]

but it seems it will decrease:

I guess the ios policy on privacy data sharing will also not help

inform ads

btw I'm thinking about it but margin alone is not a really great indicator

cuz it is related to revenus

solidity of a company

probably

Did fb rescind offers?

I don't remember

not sure about that

I believe 1 person from hr can rescind multiple offers per month

concerning reputation, they already rescinded ng offers

hmm

what is the difference?

I know that

but in terms of difficulty in the process

nah, meta is just overpaying

don't put everyone in the same bag

6k for nyc housing

I know nyc is extremely expensive and I believe fb is overpaying because of its location inside nyc

I agree with this

It seems overpaying to me

but I might be wrong

I'm pretty sure you overestimate fb

[dusty basin]

A few of those will probably be booted based on the higher performance metrics fb is reported to be implementing soon

[coarse quiver]

like @nocturne oriole

[dusty basin]

Yep

Dw. All of u have Amazon as fallback

[rain patio]

why does amazon reject without email? I just found out by checking my amazon university jobs account.

[dusty basin]

They’re cutting retail

Retail employees

Not engineers

Yeah those are retail

Mb

[rain patio]

yeah. watched some WSJ video about it

they increased retail to match peak pandemic ordering. but thats down now people are shopping in person again

[dusty basin]

But yeah. Amazon is huge and understaffed and have tons of money so they’ll always be hiring

[nocturne oriole]

No fear mongering but yes

[rain patio]

thought it was the best

[nocturne oriole]

[livid yew]

Lmao you should probably get those added to your calendar

[rain patio]

probably the best if you are the best

[nocturne oriole]

2020 grads - broke
2021 - very broke
2022 - woke
2023 - so broke it’s off the charts

2023 grads = dec 2022 or may 2023

[buoyant finch]

[nocturne oriole]

Im actually not joking

[rain patio]

arent you ng if you get a job now?

[buoyant finch]

Is it for the bigger tech companies or like every company in general

[livid yew]

I mean for 2023 grads, you have until next May so 🤞

[buoyant finch]

[rain patio]

congrats @cedar nebula

damn

[livid yew]

Intuit seems like a nice place

[rain patio]

how?

[livid yew]

I mean a job is about more than TC lol

[rain patio]

no

Yeah tc and prestige

WLB

Growth

[whole zinc]

is it necessary to apply to companies as soon as they open positions (like amazon and jane street right now) or is it fine to wait a bit

[rain patio]

yeah but some things out weigh others

Just gotta determine what’s best overall

oh yeah easily lol

[grizzled bronze]

Ahoy there Twilion!

[winter loom]

@jagged ravine i asked my recruiter the other day if there was confirmed hc for interns next year and she literally said we aren't sure l0l

😐

yea time to start lc'ing

yeah i just had my midpoint w my skip and IM and they literally said no complaints and everything looks good

kinda wack :/

23rd

24th

yeah you'll be good

the thing is they hired like 5k interns

and lets say like 3-4k are meeting expecations+

idk how thats gonna translate

ah you're right

i still wanna interview this year but hopefully we got something to fall back on lmao

does twilio do new grad?

[grizzled bronze]

Twilio is good, I aspire to get more than an Ahoy from them for new grad

[winter loom]

oof

but tbh thats' about to be the case at most companies this year

[primal vale]

chatted with google recruiter today, google ng will open in early August and team match before interview

[errant karma]

Hopefully I don’t get a return offer before companies app open

[primal vale]

Btw, don't waste time if they r not proper full-time recruiter from Google

randstad only recruits ppl with 1+ yoe for google

[grizzled bronze]

So new grad is just recruiters working with Google directly?

[primal vale]

yep

nope, she just asked me to reach out to her once I have submitted my application

[winter loom]

do google referrals add significant value to ur application

[pallid kernel]

hi guys i need a bit of advice. so my fiancé lives in the US and i’m purely a canadian citizen, so we can’t live in each other’s countries because of our current jobs. i really want to live with him at least before we get married so my plan was to get a job in america that would sponsor me, but i’m not sure what the chances of getting a sponsorship especially as a new grad are. my resume is not as impressive either and im not the best at interviews, so am i wasting my time thinking i could get an american company to hire and sponsor me?

[primal vale]

it depends on who referred u

a referral from ng probably does not add any value

[vital meteor]

Anonymize and post resume in the resume section and do blind75/grind75/neetcode 150 or w/e

But yea big companies do sponsor

[chilly burrow]

https://capitalone.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Capital_One/job/McLean-VA/Technology-Development-Program-Associate---2023_R146283-1

[pallid kernel]

yeah i just started with grokking this month, will move onto grind75 if i have time before interviews

[vital meteor]

Goodluck 👍

[chilly burrow]

Yes, they had new grad postings last year

[pallid kernel]

thanks, a lot depends on me getting a sponsorship so i’m very nervous

thanks so much guys

i have two internships with SAP and unity, a year of combined experience

[ripe socket]

huh.. is it better to do first 150 medium in leetcode or the neetcode 150 🤔

[vital meteor]

Neetcode

Its structured to hit different patterns

[winter loom]

are you interning at unity right now?

how was the layoff news

[surreal shuttle]

They are not sponsoring

[surreal shuttle]

Kirb 300 🐐

[ripe socket]

ic 🤔

[pallid kernel]

nah, currently at SAP

but i heard the unity layoff news

[digital cosmos]

got rejected by Jane Street
I thought Google in my resume will at least get me an OA

what does that mean

[coarse quiver]

target university

"prestigious" university basically

[digital cosmos]

nope, you've probably never heard of my uni

[coarse quiver]

did you apply to jane street us?

it might be related to sponsorship if you are not a us citizen

[digital cosmos]

london, https://www.janestreet.com/join-jane-street/position/4900737002/

[coarse quiver]

did you already complete G internship?

finish I mean

[digital cosmos]

not yet. By end of this month

[coarse quiver]

what office?

don't tell me zurich

[digital cosmos]

close enough, my sister team is in zurich

but im in india

what about @pulsar mural

[pulsar mural]

zürich office

[coarse quiver]

it might be related to sponsorship

[digital cosmos]

fax

[exotic oracle]

damn i just got rejected by jane street too 💀

no sponsorship things for me just suck i gues slmfao

[formal fable]

Lol, what does it take to get an interview with Jane Street? I didn't even try and for 2 mid level interviews at Amazon and Google, but can't be considered even for new grad at Jane Street even though I applied to like 3 positions

[exotic oracle]

i think you need to be a cracked ass math olympiad mf

if they are offering 400k to new grads

at least trhey responed quicky so im not hopeful for a long as time

[formal fable]

Bruh, I'm not getting any OAs

[vital meteor]

Same, how do I afford all these candles without that 400k

[formal fable]

I got from HRT and Akuna, and after solving the same OAs twice over (I'm confident I nailed them), I figured it's just auto-response to any internship application and they'd never consider me unless I get a referral or some shit. JS never even gave an OA then.

Now, for full-time, I expected better. I got experience, tons of it for an SWE at least. At least give a man a chance

HPM?

Sigh... Never thought elitism was this real in tech, at least in the US

Gotta swap out that university and GPA on my resume I guess. Fucking University racists, lol

Sigh, first IITs, now HPMs... Can't seem to escape target school trap

[exotic oracle]

bro they still care about that shit 💀

[calm shale]

uw madison

[formal fable]

Anyone here interviewing for Amazon SDE2 or equivalent roles?

[calm shale]

asking for ACT score for anything other than college admission is so cringe

[exotic oracle]

yeah im shocked

[stoic belfry]

instant OA

[primal pike]

ye lol

[hard bear]

Hi have any companies open the positions for 2023 new grads?

[jagged torrent]

I think Amazon just opened new grad

I saw it on LinkedIn

[chilly burrow]

I got insta reject 😔

[chilly burrow]

They opened a few days ago

It's on the pinned gh repo

[chilly burrow]

https://blackrock.tal.net/vx/lang-en-CA/mobile-0/brand-3/xf-3d1d0a4adcb4/wid-1/candidate/so/pm/1/pl/1/opp/6073

[primal pike]

cuz u selected that u need sponsorship

[chilly burrow]

oh i thot u needed sponsorship as well

[primal pike]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shh-asl-joey-badosky-jb-gif-16194116

[fossil basin]

capital one oa is a codesignal

[fierce musk]

Where can we find out about new grad posting for 2023?

[exotic oracle]

there is a pinned github repo

most companies havent posted apps yet, probs august for most

but bookmark that github repo and keep checking linked ion and what not as well because i doubt every post will end up there

[fierce musk]

Ah alright, need to apply early this year so I don’t have to do it during uni

[young peak]

How are the 2023 nerds doing

[primal pike]

how do we tell him

[young peak]

yike

recession hitting rough for y'all?

[primal pike]

recession dont affect me im used to -99% losses from crypto

[stoic belfry]

how was we supposed to be doing?😵‍💫 isn’t it still early?

[bleak raven]

it’s been open

some people already getting offers

[jagged torrent]

Damn really

That’s crazy

Didn’t it open like 3 days ago

That’s so fast wtf

[young peak]

naw you gotta have 5 offers atleast at this stage

zero offers by August means its over

[jagged torrent]

When I was your age I was on the phone with bezos

Talking TC

[young peak]

Only TC I was talking at your age was Total Control over the company bro

[calm shale]

is this swe for C1?

[grizzled bronze]

yes

[slate bobcat]

Is this for C1 SWE?

[grizzled bronze]

yes

[grizzled bronze]

Also welcome back

[slate bobcat]

Which yes is this for?

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/gatin-maçã-gif-19682947

[slate bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/gatin-maçã-gif-19682947

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah it's Capital One SWE. They call it Technology Development Program

[slate bobcat]

Is TDE short for technology development program?

[grizzled bronze]

TDP

[slate bobcat]

What’s that mean?

[ashen sonnet]

Wtf Capital One rejected me right after I submitted my app

...

[exotic oracle]

.

Do you need a sponsorship? Might be thst

I got an instant oa

[ashen sonnet]

Yeah lol

Oh well

[dusty basin]

Pro tip: never check the box saying u need sponsorship

Typical rookie move

[jagged torrent]

Also don’t study DP

If u get it take ur L and go

[sonic coral]

Or do what I did and just try to implement a dp problem without having any idea if it works or not and just hoping it does

[primal pike]

facts

[dusty basin]

Me and u can do DP together Tom

Pair programming

[jagged torrent]

Let’s do it

@dusty basin are u aiming to be an interviewer at Zon?

[dusty basin]

Nah

I wanna speedrun Sde 2 in 9 months

And try for Sde 2 at other places so I can max TC

[bleak relic]

https://www.goldmansachs.com/careers/students/programs/americas/new-analyst-program.html

[nocturne notch]

Did anyone got Amazon OA ?

[primal pike]

too early bro

[coarse quiver]

I give you 6 months

Not 9

You need to deliver results

[shut parcel]

hey guys i applied for sde ng in amazon 22 in early jan, can i apply for the sde ng in amazon for 23 now?

[austere dock]

same i applied for both

[dusty basin]

Worst case u get a no so… yeah. Apply to whatever you can find

[dusty basin]

Why Mr Bog

[vital meteor]

yes i used to apply to like all of em

[shut parcel]

did it work?

[dire yarrow]

I think so, given he's going to Amazon

[surreal shuttle]

When does amazon send out their OA 😩

[jaunty basalt]

That’s like asking what is the meaning of life

[jagged torrent]

Yeah it’s all random

I still have an Application Submitted for Amazon intern in 2020

I wonder if they’ll ever send me that OA

[dire yarrow]

its okay bro don't lose hope

they'll send one day

[jagged torrent]

[rain patio]

really about to tell all non-FAANGMULA+ companies I dont need sponsorship

[glossy pendant]

Def doable for you king

I’m trying to do the same at Meta

[primal pike]

i wanna speedrun life

[rain patio]

instant OA from Cap1. they really rejecting people on the spot for needing sponsorship

[dense blaze]

I don’t even want to be alive

[weak latch]

Anyone graduating summer 2023? When do apps usually open for those new grads?

[dire yarrow]

Matud wants to be like me

[fleet flame]

bruh, Amazon job app is fucked

i've been receiving daily "You've been referred" emails

which makes my application incomplete

like this shit keeps happening even after i complete the application

[surreal shuttle]

You need to complete in Amazonuniversity.jobs

[fleet flame]

I’ve emailed Amazon and they said the status is complete and for me to keep monitoring this shit

and obviously i complete it there on the dashboard

where else am i suppose to complete it

https://www.amazonuniversity.jobs/dashboard

[surreal shuttle]

Send a screenshot what does your profile look like in this site

[tall solar]

Use a stack

Ezpz

[fleet flame]

my profile? shit is filled out

[dire yarrow]

I hope this is sarcasm lmao

[primal pike]

just a misclick bro

[sonic coral]

I mean have you taken data structures classes, stacks are pretty easy

I’d focus on bsearch, 2D DP and intervals because they’re easiest to learn imo

Oh lol my bad I meant the other two

2D DP I’ve personally had

That’s why I’d recommend it

Just gotta understand the intuition instead of grinding problems imo

For ones that are based on one or two ds

Greedy on the other hand is usually bullshit

Usually some stupid solution that is hard to come up with unless you know it already

Legit, greedy is basically “come up with a unique algo for this shit that math phds struggle with”

[chilly burrow]

Applied Intuition:
https://jobs.lever.co/applied/cbcfe9b0-7f94-4dee-aa27-248e4135c307

[lilac siren]

Any 23 NG process channel?

[errant karma]

Mine says "No Longer Under Consideration" I guess just got rejected

[rough ruin]

for 2023?

[errant karma]

yeah

[rough ruin]

damn that was fast

that was before or after OA

[errant karma]

before OA

[rough ruin]

oh hmm

might of been resume then

[errant karma]

last year I got the OA lol

[rough ruin]

ah

im still "under consideration" for AWS

2 weeks now

after doing OA

[errant karma]

That's good I am not worried though I will just reached out to Amazon Recruiter once they start interviewing

[primal pike]

oh shit

now im anxious

[errant karma]

Just tell Jeff you need a job

[dusty halo]

Can you please share your resume?

[primal pike]

ok im still in biches

[primal pike]

im microsoft support

is there like a sample for amz oa2

idk what to study for

[errant karma]

sure here it is

[rough ruin]

Damn bro they denied you with that resume? wtf

[primal pike]

damn

id just reapply with another email tbh

[errant karma]

That's a good idea I will do that

[midnight jetty]

Is this industry position or new grad ?

[rough ruin]

i think it might of been new grad? i didn't specifically say new grad but it also didn't explicitly state 1yoe or anything

the job listing is gone now though

[errant karma]

Tbh I had 300 apps before I got an internship so I am used to rejections

[rough ruin]

internship def do open doors tho

[primal pike]

try 700 and 0 offers

[errant karma]

And I am on good track to getting a return offer I just need Amazon to negotiate the return offer

[surreal shuttle]

[primal pike]

wait u went to Goldman

lmao wtf

[errant karma]

I started at the top

[errant karma]

you might need to debug something else on your process

[primal pike]

just mainly shitty startups

heard back from most faaangs

[errant karma]

I am curious how many interviews did you get from 500 apps

[primal pike]

also this year is trash

[errant karma]

I am still EE major so I might go back to seeing what's on the other side

[errant karma]

It is chill asf

[primal pike]

ah damn

[errant karma]

they just pay less compared to FAANG

[primal pike]

still recognized company

[errant karma]

Yeah and the team is awesome

[errant karma]

They also opened their application

[rough ruin]

i applied to them little bit ago

[primal pike]

is it super hard oa

[errant karma]

I would say leetcode medium

[rough ruin]

is it hackerrank or codesignal

[errant karma]

hackerrank

[rough ruin]

oh thats good

codesignal has always been a rip every time for me

[primal pike]

zame

[errant karma]

Me too but there was a square link we used to farm codesignal scores

[rough ruin]

huh?!

[errant karma]

basically you redo with different emails then you merge the scores to your main email when you get the desired score

[rough ruin]

can you still do that lmao?

[errant karma]

check 2022_summer pinned section

[errant karma]

I am not sure if it still works

[rough ruin]

codesignal is legit cancer

the highest ive ever managed is a 701

[errant karma]

I gave up when I heard they grade based on how fast you solve the problems

[ripe socket]

damn everyone started to submit the application but my resmue wasn't even finished

[ripe socket]

it's really based on luck

sounds like

[errant karma]

it will never be finished. Just complete as best as you can, post it on #resume then start applying once you make changes based on the feedback you get

[errant karma]

over 90% of everything we do so far is just relaying on LUCK

[gleaming fable]

they do, I forget the exact threshold but once your solution on a prob starts to take longer than ~15 mins you start losing points

actual cancer

[sharp plume]

Learning about this kind of stuff is why I lurk on this server

[errant karma]

Sometimes say hi during your lurking sessions

Anyways guys back to grinding

[surreal shuttle]

8

[errant karma]

That's actually good. From 300 apps---> 1 interview---> 1 offer

[surreal shuttle]

Tiktok final, Nvidia Final, RenTec, Meta, Esri, Nio, Spectral MD

[surreal shuttle]

I guess only 7

[errant karma]

Sometimes we just lack an opportunity to showcase what we are made of

[errant karma]

You are cracked

I got Tiktok OA but it was so hard

[chilly burrow]

That's crazy good tbh

[rough ruin]

i didnt even attempt tiktok oa

five questions be too much

[dire yarrow]

Same, I was clapped in tiktok phone

[errant karma]

At least tell us there a happy ending to this

[urban gulch]

just based off the name

[errant karma]

[errant karma]

it was weird they record their OA

[dire yarrow]

They gave me OA 3 times

I failed first time, didn't attempt second, but still somehow got phone.

Maybe for a different position

[errant karma]

They wanted you to pass so bad

[dire yarrow]

I still didn't

[frank wedge]

Tiktok onsite was 💀

[young peak]

Bruh armhad don't you have offers already for 2022?

[surreal shuttle]

But i failed everything and jobless currently 😭

In Tiktok final i got Binary search and number of islands

I perfectly did both

Started calling everyone in my family and told them i am going to get a job at tiktok

Next day i got rejected

The pain is too much

[woven sable]

What do you have at hiring manager technical interview?

[woven sable]

Lol that’s scary

[vital meteor]

Probably a technical interview

[chilly burrow]

Ya, getting the solution isn't enough

You have to communicate it effectively

And you also have to do well in the behavioral portion as well (if there is one)

I remember I got a perfect solution for a technical for a startup and was still rejected. I was super salty at the time, but thinking back on it, it was my own fault for not explaining my thought process effectively.

[chilly burrow]

I don't mean to come off as rude, but if you've had 8 interviews and failed all of them. You may be lacking in interviewing skills, and may benefit from doing mocks.

You could also just b super unlucky lol, but after failing 8 I doubt it

[vital meteor]

This cant be real

Anyways use pramp for practice

[lament frost]

Ngl I laughed why the hell did you do that

[surreal shuttle]

Yeah that is what I realised

I am very bad at communicating

Currently i stopped leetcoding

And learning web dev stuff

Everywhere i see there are lot of Backend, Frontend and Fullstack openings

So need to cash in on it

[dire yarrow]

Is pramp paid?

[vital meteor]

Freeeee

Its peer to peer

[dire yarrow]

You can just pair up with ppl you find here and do mocks with them. Its free. Yea, you gotta get lucky to get a guy as good as @jagged torrent tho

[dire yarrow]

Ohhh nicee

[vital meteor]

If you want a guaranteed faang engineer interviewing you, you can use interviewing.io but its like 200 dollars or something per interview

[dire yarrow]

Bruh lol nah

[chilly burrow]

That's good. Much better mindset than me. I was salty and convinced myself I was rejected cause of some reason outta my control.

[chilly burrow]

Interviewing.io pays v well for interns tho

Like 45us an hour or smth

[vital meteor]

Yea I was thinking about signing up as a interviewer

Supplemental income

[chilly burrow]

Nah, I meant as an intern of the actual company

I know a guy who got an internship there

[vital meteor]

Is his name mark

[tall solar]

Faang interviews are rng

Pray you get that easy leetcode

[lament frost]

Even with easy you can get fcked

Pray the interviewer like your ass

[chilly burrow]

Idk his name

He's a friend of a friend tbh

[dire yarrow]

@vital meteor did you start working?

[dusty basin]

Not necessarily. I’ve had friends get sponsorships at companies that normally didn’t give any simply because they were such a strong candidate. Plus if you have no other offer, you can work at x company and ask for sponsorship in 6 months or whatever. A lot of companies are more likely to do that after seeing your performance. Better than getting auto-rejected

[dusty basin]

It’s not

[dire yarrow]

Oh, that's good to hear. Is it possible at C1 tho?

[dusty basin]

I know 1 guy who did that at C1 tbh

Could be an outlier

But better than the 0% chance u get by getting auto-rejected

[rough ruin]

lmao i know the world is too cruel to ever jump and do that

[vital meteor]

I start monday

[dusty basin]

Monday is holiday

[frank wedge]

Yeah I had 6. Tiktok was back in October before I had any

They fucked my confidence

[vital meteor]

Not in canada

[dusty basin]

Ur team is in US tho

So no one’s gonna be working lol

[vital meteor]

I do have a short meet with manager to give my password that day

[young peak]

Damn I feel that tbh

That was me with Roblox

Hubspot broke me ngl

I did perfectly on their stupid front end shit even though I'm not front end

Most prep I did the entire app cycle

[primal pike]

lets be honest tho most of us arent over qualified

except me of course

[dusty basin]

U don’t need to be overqualified

U just need to not be shit

[grizzled bronze]

Most likely you're getting rejected

But it's good for practice

It's not necessarily due to how well you perform. They could still reject you firmly because of the no sponsorship reason.

[dusty basin]

They could

But better “could” than “will” bc u checked a stupid box

[primal pike]

was the capital oa hard

[grizzled bronze]

It's Codesignal

[primal pike]

disgusting

[exotic oracle]

It’s also a recorded codesignal right?

Extra cringe

[grizzled bronze]

Smile on the camera and it adds extra points to your score

[calm shale]

Is it auto

[grizzled bronze]

I don't know, didn't apply yet

Oh yeah people are saying it's auto

[young peak]

Proctored OAs are hyper cringe

[jagged torrent]

My coinbase OA was proctored

[dire yarrow]

Mine wasn't

Or maybe it was. I don't remember

Oh nvm yea it was.

[jaunty basalt]

When it changed to Codesignal yeah

[calm shale]

I’ve definitely done questionable things while being in proctored codesignal

[vital meteor]

Like kinky stuff?

[livid yew]

If it's a us company, you have the day off right? Maybe not paid though

[sonic quail]

i had to take a shit in one and i was away for like 10 mins

they still passed me tho i said in the mic i had to poop i’ll be back

[primal pike]

i bet my left ball nobody checks the recordings

[exotic oracle]

I assume they get flagged for suspicious activity

And only then do they get checked

[dusty basin]

No

[livid yew]

Imagine working when everyone else is gone:KEKW:

[dusty basin]

You took a shit in a codesig?

[grizzled bronze]

why are you prayge'ing to that?

[dire yarrow]

My code is shit

[buoyant finch]

Mb wrong channel

[ripe socket]

have google and meta created job posts for ng in Canada yet? am I getting rejected before applying or what

[jaunty basalt]

Finally someone tried it out, ur a hero

I was so afraid to get up and leave to use the restroom

You set the example for the rest of us

[rough ruin]

bro meta dead no jobs

[lunar jackal]

Any company created new grad 2023 ncg openings?

[cosmic cypress]

I am

I am chad

my daddy owns apple

and msft

[errant karma]

Ash😂

[obsidian crater]

competitive programming is so hard

[errant karma]

Petition for High schoolers channel

[errant karma]

That’s why it is called Competitive lol

[obsidian crater]

true

[coarse quiver]

Actually, it seems like a good idea

I approve mr bravin

@nocturne oriole

[errant karma]

@cosmic cypress come see this

[cosmic cypress]

I feel cool(er) in normal chats 😎

[errant karma]

It is not about being cool. You guys can share opportunities

[cosmic cypress]

yeah true if they want to tho

normal chats are fine as well

[ripe socket]

[rough ruin]

i wouldn't expect much given their recent news

[dire yarrow]

@slim mortar do you want to say something?

[fluid bloom]

When should December grads start applying?

[rough ruin]

Now

[young peak]

Petition for the Kindergarden channel

[errant karma]

Petition Denied

[wooden echo]

need more posting for dec grads imo, there's not too many yet :p

[urban gulch]

dec 2022? Is that just the same cycle as for 2023 grads?

[wooden echo]

think so ye

[dire yarrow]

It's just July tho

You'll keep seeing more this month and next month

[wooden echo]

tru

[rough ruin]

lotta 2022 grads as competition doe

[tall solar]

do may 2023 postings

and a lot of companies will let you start January

I know many ppl that did this

[proud sapphire]

Guys where do you put your preferred locations for Software Engineering roles? And any specific reasons behind it??

[tall solar]

open to any

also depends on you and what u want. be mindful some locations will pay you more based on COL

[sonic coral]

^^^

At this point given the economy is on the brink of the worst recession we’ve seen in years beggars can’t be choosers

[pulsar mural]

[surreal shuttle]

[primal pike]

hate weekends

recruiters away

[dire yarrow]

Does MSFT support work in weekends too?

[glossy pendant]

I hope no company does

[coarse quiver]

@pulsar mural

[chilly burrow]

There's like 5 things out

Wait till August

[rigid quail]

@pulsar mural still timed out?

[surreal shuttle]

I was planning on completing my degree in next semester if i get a new grad role by August ending

Looks like it's not possible 😩

[brittle marten]

does anyone know if HRT asks linear alg shit for algo dev or pure leetcode

[primal pike]

i work 24/7 just dm me your seed phrase

[young peak]

Go outside and touch grass bud

Spending weekends grinding away wasn't the reason I got offers tbh

idk it's not like you're talking to recruiters or anything

[dusty basin]

K

[dense blaze]

[primal pike]

thats because ur already a leetcode god

[dusty basin]

Lol in his dreams

@young peak sux

[manic spear]

what’s the sauce? flintstone vitamins?

[dense blaze]

Cbt

[young peak]

I actually don't know what it was lmao

RNGesus

[bleak relic]

How was blackrock OA

What should I use to prepare? Leetcode tag for Blackrock?

[manic spear]

pretty easy b75 types mine also had a sql question

[bleak relic]

How many questions in total?

[manic spear]

was a while ago so not 100% sure but maybe like 4

[fervent drift]

Hey has anyone here used Blind?

[red pier]

^ Yeah what about it?

[fervent drift]

How can I ask for a referral on there? I don’t have a company email. Will they just shadow ban me lol?

Or will my post even reach the right people?

[red pier]

People with "New" tag post/comment all the time

Just post where you've interned, what you've done, etc.

I'm unsure how that generally works because I haven't asked for some myself, but I've seen people tag the companies that they're interested in.

[fervent drift]

Okay will try that

[young peak]

Just make a post tagging/hashtagging company names

Or beg to DM people in comments

Idk if that works personally but people here have had some range of success

[fervent drift]

I can’t dm people cause I don’t have a company email

[young peak]

Find an email generator, set it to google.com, meta.com, etc and then go to gmail and try to email em. If their profile pic changes, try to enter that as a username on Blind. Do this until you get a valid user

No validation necessary iirc

[fervent drift]

Oh fr??

Bet

[primal pike]

this for blind?

oh it is

damn smart trick

[dusty basin]

Ppl give out referrals like candy on blind

[dusty basin]

There is

[next geode]

Anybody got OA for VMware propel?

[young peak]

Fuck fr?

[dusty basin]

I’m pretty sure I had to verify my email

[normal palm]

👀

[fervent drift]

new grad?

[primal pike]

just did capital oa

only got 500

[normal palm]

what's it out of o.o

[primal pike]

4 of 300 each

1200

[young peak]

bruh what

[young peak]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-mission-failed-call-of-duty-ghost-gif-13071756

[primal pike]

that graph one

i saw before

[grizzled bronze]

How long did they take to give CodeSignal after you applied?

[primal pike]

0.5 seconds

[cedar zodiac]

🙋

[waxen turtle]

when did you guys apply for this role? I just got the questionnaire last Friday but no oa.....

[bleak raven]

im not gonna apply to 2023 positions until the process channel has been created

is that a good idea 🧍‍♂️

[verbal sorrel]

Bro

Just keep an excel spreadsheet or something and apply

You can always put the process in later

[bleak raven]

i need the process channel to know when people are getting interviews

i hate just applying and thinking its a black hole

[verbal sorrel]

I applied to Microsoft in July and didn’t hear back until October

So it can take awhile regardless

Just apply early and often

If you want keep an application count and apply again at a later date when the process channel comes out

There are zero real reasons to not apply now if it’s listed as an open role imo.

[bleak raven]

hmmmmmmmm fair

ugh k

tomorrow

[verbal sorrel]

Trust me bro it’ll help and honestly doing a lot of technical interviews during the semester was ass

[bleak raven]

i have fall internship so its even tuffer 😭

[verbal sorrel]

If it wasn’t for Covid and being remote I probably would not have done as many as I did

[dawn sequoia]

balancing school and recruiting was absolutely insane

[bleak raven]

how do i fit interviewing in 9 to 5

taking off is sus

[verbal sorrel]

Oh yeah you’ll be fine, make sure to update your resume. But hmm

[bleak raven]

in person internship

[verbal sorrel]

For smaller companies it might be harder

But larger companies can accommodate your schedule

[grizzled bronze]

Try to schedule it near your lunch break

[verbal sorrel]

Since they have people in many different time zones

[grizzled bronze]

Or if you're remote, it's easy

[verbal sorrel]

Well the problem is on-sites

Which could be 45 minutes or 3 hours

Sometimes longer

[grizzled bronze]

You're right, haven't done new grad interviews yet so I forgot they can be really long

[grizzled bronze]

Just interview during your internship, worst that happens is they fire you

[bleak raven]

what if i forget how to leetcode 👉 👈

[bleak raven]

fall internship is actually the company i would take over any other company 😭

[verbal sorrel]

I would highly advise being upfront about availability and trying to get accommodations from the places you are applying to. If they have trouble and can’t accommodate I would try to take off time or even talk to your manager if they’re fairly understanding.

[bleak raven]

im interviewing in case they dont give return

[verbal sorrel]

Could even do it during school hours if you can skip some lectures for a day

[verbal sorrel]

Well if you “forget how to leetcode” aren’t you forgetting your core DS & Algo knowledge?

[bleak raven]

ya

lost

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah I would try to see if you can get the interviews after your work finishes then

And if it's multiple interviews, ask if they can be split up into separate days

[bleak raven]

havent needed it since i got my offers 💀

[verbal sorrel]

I mean tbh for me it was really about watching videos on data structures and algorithms with proper examples. But also just some practice in terms of memorizing how to call them in my specific language

[verbal sorrel]

I mean same, but like for the most part you should be fine

What company is this btw?

[bleak raven]

only company id take over fall internship is google

[bleak raven]

data the dog

[verbal sorrel]

Oh

Well

Idk how their return offers work but you’ll probably be fine

[bleak raven]

ive talked to a few interns and they said return offer lowkey hard

[verbal sorrel]

Oh

[bleak raven]

yea tis scary

[verbal sorrel]

Well good luck with it but yeah

If anything right now

Just focus on doing some refresher practice and keep applying

[bleak raven]

[verbal sorrel]

I’m gonna go to sleep

[bleak raven]

gn gn thx

[digital cosmos]

Friends, I have Palantir interview coming up. What are the tips & tricks

Do they ask non DSA stuff? Like OS or something

[rough ruin]

Pray

Pray is always the way to prepare for any interview

[bleak relic]

They ask a lot of graph/hashmap questions. You can check out the interview platform before the interview that usually helps too

Depending on the interviewer they may ask you to speak about your projects / some quick design questions ~ 10 mins

[raven cedar]

I haven’t done leetcode in almost a year how am I supposed to pass Jane Street

[white escarp]

u passed the resume screen

u can just nail the interview and call it a day now

[bronze nymph]

apparently they don't ask lc

could be wrong though, my sample size is one person

[raven cedar]

Oh interesting

[bronze nymph]

the person I talked to told me they ask 'practical' things for swe, like implement scrabble or connect four, etc and the normal probablity/math for trader

[raven cedar]

Right right so DSA still important to know, but it’s more of a foundation to use in open-ended questions

[bronze nymph]

yeah, that sounds about right

[raven cedar]

Ive had interviews like that, I can picture it

[bronze nymph]

i'm guessing it's not all that way though, probably somewhat interviewer dependent as well

[raven cedar]

For sure, well I guess I’ll find out anyhow! Thanks.

[bronze nymph]

np, good luck!

[glad thunder]

Did anyone ever find a fix for the amazon new grad application bug

[surreal shuttle]

They ask questions like design a chess game or some things like that.

[austere bay]

Are you constantly getting the "missing information" email/

[glad thunder]

Yah

[austere bay]

Bruh man same

Thought it's only something on my end

[primal pike]

chess game = trade spy up and down for sure

good skill to have

[raven cedar]

bet, sounds like asana

[nocturne oriole]

?avatar @raven cedar

[earnest warren]

Avatar for cemma#5898

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[raven cedar]

can I help you?

[nocturne oriole]

I just wanted to take a closer look at this GOAT

[raven cedar]

[raven cedar]

will you still think im beautiful when I !process jane street reject?

[nocturne oriole]

[jaunty basalt]

Cemma doesn’t get rejected

[near rock]

i grad in december this year, should i start applying for new grad stuff?

[sonic coral]

Now

You’re in the same group as people graduating next spring

[near rock]

okkk sick

[young peak]

Are you going to continue my legacy young one

[raven cedar]

oh yes, I am so out of practice interviewing theres no chance I pass

[umbral plover]

same 😭

[raven cedar]

Tryna keep in mind that I have nothing to lose

[old smelt]

If you have 2 weeks you can probably get prepared in time

[young peak]

You get this homie dw

[raven cedar]

ty ty I will try my best to make cscd proud

[pallid kernel]

do some new grad companies not start interviewing until november-january?

or do most of them interview in late august

[surreal shuttle]

Any drunk July 4th kids?

[pallid kernel]

ive only managed to do 20 leetcode questions so far and if companies start interviewing as early as august i am royally screwed

[surreal shuttle]

I hope companies int in late August

I just want to get amazon offer as a safety

[pallid kernel]

i dont

i probably wont get any offers as i am not ready at all leetcode wise

i guess thats my own fault for not preparing earlier

but i didnt realize how far in advance the US hires

[surreal shuttle]

This is drunk me speaking but if i don't get offer by August i feel like i am fucked

[pallid kernel]

why

graduation isnt until may

[surreal shuttle]

If i get an offer by August i will complete course by December

[pallid kernel]

oh

most new grad jobs start in june though i thought

[vivid stirrup]

do some start in september 😅

was hoping to get next summer off lol

[pallid kernel]

i just wish for more leetcode grind time 🥲

fuck

[vivid stirrup]

same my dumbass thought that I was starting early this time around

[sonic coral]

College vibes lol

[ripe socket]

how do I know which company is hiring?

it sounds like everyone is applying everywhere but I don't even know what company open their 2023 new grad roles

[sonic coral]

Most companies open in aug

[ripe socket]

oh..

[sonic coral]

Only company I remember that was open in July last year was msft

[ripe socket]

ok ..

[errant karma]

As do I

[ripe socket]

amazon bad?

[errant karma]

Better bad than nothing

[sonic coral]

Amazon isn’t bad

Amazon rng

[chilly burrow]

U don't have to apply now

You can just wait until September to apply

Sure some things will open, but it's not so late into the process that you're losing anything imo

[sonic coral]

Wait till mid/end of aug imo

Enough to get in early for most cycles

[manic spear]

i started pretty late into the season last year nov/dec ish and had a pretty good response rate. the bar does get increasingly higher the longer you wait imo

[red pier]

Certain companies like Google also give you a lot more downtime in between phone screens and onsite

[vivid stirrup]

ok sounds good lmao

almost had a frickin heart attack

[red pier]

2 months is a decent amount of time if you have nothing to do 🤷‍♂️

[young peak]

Do a shot for every company that rejected you

[dire yarrow]

I'm gonna be blackout drunk

Probably even die

[young peak]

Oh yeah dead for sure

and I'd even heavily contribute to the liquor industry as a whole too prob

[pallid kernel]

am working full time and going to the gym often

realistically i only have 3 hours a day or so to spend on leetcoding, which i've been doing so far

but progress feels really slow

especially because i am dumb and take forever on each question

[red pier]

We've all been there - just keep chugging through & you'll stick something good

[dense blaze]

Hey

Kith me

[sonic coral]

With companies like google starting as early as possible is best imo

There was a massive culling during headcount reevaluation this January/February

A ton of people who passed hc got rejected to due to lack of headcount

[red pier]

I stand corrected. Listen to mr. google man :)

[verbal sorrel]

Ah I too like to partake in alcohol poisoning

[hazy gull]

does referal for amazon matter?

[young peak]

The Early Career openings last for only about 7 days each and I've found that earlier appliers have higher chances of getting the actual offer. Although there are still cases of HC/PA limbo hell, the chances are lower

[sonic coral]

I was in the very first wave and from what I’ve seen nearly everyone who got past hc from the first wave got an offer

[young peak]

You mean the September one right?

[sonic coral]

In fact I can’t think of anyone who didn’t get an offer post-hc from the first wave

[sonic coral]

Late aug

[young peak]

I can't remember if it was early sep or late aug

but yeah I'm in the camp

Idk anyone that passed HC that didn't get an offer

second/third wave people had it rough

[vivid stirrup]

what exactly is HC lol

[sonic coral]

Yeah I checked emails I applied back in 8/25

But I think that one lasted till sept

In any case first / second wave def best chances

[young peak]

Hiring Committee, just a group of dudes that evaluate your performance

[sonic coral]

The culling was third wave right?

[young peak]

It was random

This one guy had been waiting for a PA match since October and it was March

He got rejected in April

[sonic coral]

Oh shit I got my offer in November

That’s wild

[young peak]

Yeah dude it was apparently a really big problem. I didn't know about this until I joined the G server

[young peak]

Lmao my offer came Dec

Cool offer date too

12/21/2021

[sonic coral]

Yeah another important thing for people to realize is also don’t push your onsites too far

If you’re in the first wave but you push your onsites a month or two that’s effectively pushing you into the second wave

[young peak]

Yup

HC passes are already slow as shit so don't worry about things not being spaced out in enough

I basically had all my other offers on deck by the time I received my G offer

If you're betting on using G offers as leverage for other companies, lmao good luck because they purposely make sure that your other offers either expire or come before them so they themselves won't be used as leverage

[sonic coral]

Yeah G’s offer isn’t very long either

Only 2 business weeks

[verbal sorrel]

I made mine like 3-4 weeks

My recruiter let me finish up any finals I had

Which was extremely nice

[sonic coral]

Yeah and that’s another thing

G’s process is super recruiter dependent

[young peak]

Bro you got off easy. Some dude tried to pull them same thing and got caught up in the PA match limbo and got rejected

Then again G loves my man Jake

His post on LN is crazy

[verbal sorrel]

Oof

[sonic coral]

Weren’t most the rejections team match limbo

[verbal sorrel]

I mean my offer was back in November

[sonic coral]

Pa match is dead now anyways

[young peak]

All I saw were HC/PA hell stories so idk

[sonic coral]

It’s project matching pre on-site now I think

[verbal sorrel]

Only reason it was fine really was because of thanksgiving tbh if I had to guess

[young peak]

Honestly I think ECI is an L of an idea

Like 8 week onboarding + 2, 4.5 month rotations?

[verbal sorrel]

But I also targeted smaller Midwest offices and my gmatch form was sent before HC

[sonic coral]

I have no clue if they’re even continuing it

[young peak]

Like c'mon what is this a bootcamp?

[young peak]

August cohort is allegedly still on

We haven't received comms at all

[sonic coral]

Well yeah

I mean next year

[young peak]

Bro for all we know the entire cohort is getting rescinded offers

[sonic coral]

Did you get equipment or username selection yet

You’re end of aug right

[young peak]

Nope we get em week 4 or some bullshit of onboarding

[sonic coral]

Oh lol what

[young peak]

Yeah it's weird man

[sonic coral]

Nothing even before start?

[young peak]

Yeah ECI gets nothing at start

[sonic coral]

I just got my equipment/username forms

[young peak]

I guess it's good for my personal situation? But overall it's kinda ass man

[verbal sorrel]

Wait what

[young peak]

Naw I'm playin jake

[verbal sorrel]

Don’t fucking joke with me like that

I’ll get you

[young peak]

[sonic coral]

Jakes from Chicago bro

Don’t wanna mess with a guy from Chicago

[young peak]

Chicago Nooglers be built diff

[verbal sorrel]

But ECI I think is honestly fine. It’s a longer onboarding experience and rotation but I think it’s nice to have some time with two teams and understand Google better

[sonic coral]

Wait Jake did you start

[verbal sorrel]

I haven’t yet lmao

[young peak]

Naw the dude is ECI like me

[verbal sorrel]

Yeah

[young peak]

Bro do you know when we receive our shit?

[verbal sorrel]

I just think the idea is at least nice. Just gives you some more room to breath

[verbal sorrel]

Idk lmfao

[young peak]

No comms at all bruh its so bad

[verbal sorrel]

Probably in early/mid august for some shit

We’re not doing team matching really right now

[sonic coral]

This is quite common for most big companies tho

[young peak]

Apparently that process starts Week 6+ in onboarding

[sonic coral]

Usually it’s radio silence with occasional things interspersed before you start

[young peak]

First few weeks is college level team projects lmao

[sonic coral]

I heard GTI has this too

[verbal sorrel]

Tbh I think that’s fine

[young peak]

Grateful either way i can't even lie

[sonic coral]

But instead of doing rotations after the three weeks you hop into your team stuff

[verbal sorrel]

At least in my program for CE in the CS classes we could only collaborate during labs and like 1 project

[young peak]

Rotations sound cool af but I'm just worried it might affect promos

I wanna get fast promos bro

[verbal sorrel]

Everything else was solo or you’d get punished lmfao

?

[young peak]

[verbal sorrel]

I would not really worry about it. The promo and ratings cycle has changed I believe and also I mean I’d expect most of us to leave after like 2-4 years

[young peak]

Yeah I'm shooting for the stars with my timeline

Hoping I can atleast hop out to a company as an external L5 by year 4-5

[verbal sorrel]

I mean you definitely could at that point. Roles are really about YOE and somewhat interview performance. Basically you wanna be a senior engineer by that stage (levels are just kinda wack to go by)

[young peak]

I'm honestly really excited about that too bro. Nothing gets me pumped up like tangible goals

Always been a training arc kinda guy

[pallid kernel]

can i ask why so many people in this server seem to want to work at google very badly

i get that its part of FAANG but moreso than any other faang companies people really want google

[sonic coral]

Wlb primarily

Goog and FB have similar benefits but goog for most teams has better wlb

Apple is super secretive

Amazon is rng central

And Netflix is normally very desired for top pay and engineering but uh lately they’ve been having some tough times

[fast sierra]

google has some interesting tech

[glossy pendant]

google has best wlb

[sonic coral]

Still an element of team variance does exist

[nocturne oriole]

outside of this recession I would say simping any company is dumb but honestly Google has easily the most stability / job security of big tech right now