2023_grads

[errant karma]

I like the positivity in this server

[young peak]

Undergrad at a T50 school

Well just graduated

so do I just say grad? lmao

Secret lmao

Just think of it as a non-CS focused uni

[jaunty basalt]

we're all indian

[slim mortar]

[vital meteor]

What color socks were you wearing while applying

Asking for a friend

[errant karma]

I am from NO name UNi but that won’t stop me

[young peak]

Naw

[jaunty basalt]

black

[slim mortar]

hell yeah

[young peak]

I'm mixed -- italian and asian

[slate bobcat]

What site did you make this on?

[slim mortar]

u get that company u want

[young peak]

International student homie

[sonic coral]

scrambled with as much added protein as possible

[slim mortar]

I'm mixed - fettucini and alfredo

[jaunty basalt]

thats hot

[vital meteor]

I can add protein to your eggs

[young peak]

I forgot but it got linked somewhere in the chat last year

[slim mortar]

I'm mixed - yahkuna and matuda

[somber hamlet]

Wait let me call it

@pulsar mural

[errant karma]

@young peak what is your leetcode count?

[slate bobcat]

it’s sankeymatic

says it on the diagram

[dire yarrow]

That's also a secret

[young peak]

In total over 4 years its like 110 or something

[errant karma]

Rookie numbers

[young peak]

Gemini and carbonara pasta

[errant karma]

Whatever Yogi says stands

[jaunty basalt]

yeah if u do more u lose offers

[slim mortar]

Yogi = incoming cs careers mod

and admin

[errant karma]

Yogi girlfriend or no girlfriend

[young peak]

They won't give me Mod 😠

[jaunty basalt]

neither

[slim mortar]

i think yogi is married

right yogi?

[young peak]

Yup married

recently too

[slim mortar]

wait when

[dire yarrow]

@jaunty basalt Where are you getting :lmaocry: from

[errant karma]

You cheated the system Yogi

[young peak]

she says shes in it for the money but she makes more than me 😳

[jaunty basalt]

[slim mortar]

recruiter

[jaunty basalt]

here

[slim mortar]

recruiter*

[errant karma]

Smart wife = happy life

[sonic coral]

100% a drug dealer

jk

[slim mortar]

atleast she dont have to pay taxes

[sonic coral]

does she have large amounts of cash accumulated

[young peak]

Happy wife == Happy life bud

[errant karma]

Yogi is set for life

[sonic coral]

fun fact the irs doesnt give a fuck if your income is illegal as long as you give uncle sam his taxes

[surreal shuttle]

I have an interview with a trading firm on Friday. They apparently ask a lot about Linux. Can anyone tell me where should I study from?

[slim mortar]

but the fbi does

[errant karma]

My weed plug files taxes he fears IRS more than police

[slim mortar]

what in linux my dud

[sonic coral]

yeah like IRS doesnt report to the feds/police

if the feds already have a file open on you yeah you fucked

[slim mortar]

[young peak]

which trading firm is this?

[dire yarrow]

HOw do you know if feds have file opened on you?

[slim mortar]

matada trading firm

[sonic coral]

you don't, operate assuming they do

[slim mortar]

u join the fbi and check

[dire yarrow]

Rather, what do you have to do in order for feds to catch your attention.

[sonic coral]

realistically the feds prob know more about you than even you do

specifically like the NSA and shit

[jaunty basalt]

In case of an investigation by any federal entity or similar, I do not have any involvement with this group or with the people in it, I do not know how I am here, probably added by a third party, I do not support any actions by the members of this group. I have not been in control of my Discord account for the past 2 years and 7 months. I went into a coma in August of 2018 and do not know who has been using my Discord account for that period of time.

[errant karma]

I thought Linux was the way to go until I got an internship and they use Windows

[dire yarrow]

If you tell me where you got :lmaocry: from I'll spare you from feds

[sonic coral]

common shell commands, piping/redirects (basically bash i/o), unix permissions, etc

[dire yarrow]

piping

[slim mortar]

learn ssh too

fucking super helpful

[surreal shuttle]

I am not supposed say the name

[errant karma]

Don’t forget VIM

[young peak]

What who did you sleep with to get this position bud

[slim mortar]

they wont ask this in interview

its helpful to know tho for sure

[sonic coral]

ur m0m

[young peak]

Naw its probably joe

[dire yarrow]

don't forget DN

[surreal shuttle]

No idea. It's just a 15 minute call. And they are known for asking stupidly hard C++ questions. That I will try myself. But no idea what to study in linux

[sonic coral]

where's lumen when you need him

@dusty basin you slackin

[slim mortar]

do all the shit rob said before

[errant karma]

When will you reset 400+ apps for New Grad

[young peak]

@dusty basin you non grass touching, 2d waifu loving, discount hasan looking, sub 6' gang affiliate

where are you

[dire yarrow]

He should've set his zon username to Mr. DN

[young peak]

btw rob

how does return offer conversion work?

Do they have an exit meeting or something where they extend an offer?

or is there a ceremonial interview process

[errant karma]

Just a phone call

[dense blaze]

Ahhh love rest days

[young peak]

Good ole Sunday

wait

its Monday

Fuck

[blissful sonnet]

I know how to use ls and cd, am I a Linux mastermind or what?

[ornate cliff]

Shit really is exhausting eh... I'm dreading OAs already

After starting my internship project and feeling like an absolute dumbass... I might be the first

That learning curve is effed... My other internships I just played valorant all day

Did they give you th schedule or did you set it yourself?

[errant karma]

High expectations meets reality

[ornate cliff]

That's kinda nice

I set my own dates, and I been missing

[young peak]

My problem always comes from setting unhealthy deadlines

I'd do jackshit for 4-5days and then just crank out an entire weeks worth of shit on the last day

[ornate cliff]

I set them without any knowledge of how anything works... And now hitting a brick wall 😂

I'm reevaluate once I get over this hump

[young peak]

Yeah biggest thing I learned was always overestimate how long something is gonna take

[ornate cliff]

Overestimate - deliver ahead of schedule - get return offer

[vital meteor]

i will pray for all you little fellas

[winged jay]

Thank you for sharing your experience i saw somewhere here that dp isn't asked much anymore ? is it true , like if i do blind75 dp should that suffice ?

[sonic coral]

i got dp for my google onsite

[formal patrol]

Google loves dp

[winged jay]

cool 👍

[turbid raptor]

When do 2023 postings usually pop up?

[ornate cliff]

Starts in July, most are late Aug/early Sept

[turbid raptor]

welp, I grad in dec

[ornate cliff]

whats the issue mate

[turbid raptor]

wanted to apply and get an answer earlier

[ornate cliff]

Oh like Dec 2023?

[turbid raptor]

oh no this one

[ornate cliff]

yeah go for it

youll be graduated aka more time for leetcode if you delay interviews

[dense blaze]

?avatar @ornate cliff

[earnest warren]

Avatar for Momo#7934

Link as

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[dense blaze]

Idk why I think you’re a grill

[turbid raptor]

true

[ornate cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/peepocomfy-peepo-comfy-cozy-blanket-gif-24439687

[frank wedge]

What agent

[ornate cliff]

any sentinel

[young peak]

I got DP for my google onsite as well if that matters. It's a pretty relevant topic to brush up on for interviews

[vital meteor]

i thought i saw somewhere like interviewers were asked to not ask dp, but that could be for amazon

[white escarp]

I think it was fb

[dusty basin]

Lol I had dp for my Amazon interviews

Amazon can ask anything

[tacit grove]

how many tagged questions did you prac for bb? The number of tagged questions for bb are just too overwhelming ngl

[young peak]

Yeah I just like the top 20 or something

[tacit grove]

did you end up getting questions from the top 20?

[young peak]

My phone interview question and one of my onsite questions were from top 20

[hazy aspen]

what was your initial offer from BB before negotiation?

[tacit grove]

okay...do you recommend to focus on top 20? and for each round for the final(2 coding rounds) is it 2 LC questions for each?

[sonic coral]

Bloomberg is mega rng

I got absolutely clapped

[lilac locust]

How bad

[sonic coral]

Named algos

[rough ruin]

like what

obscure algos? or common ones

[sonic coral]

Stable marriage problem

[rough ruin]

did you just quit

[sonic coral]

Nah I attempted it

Got maybe halfway

But yeah fuck if I remembered junior year algo class

I had a referral too so was not expecting to get absolutely deleted on the on-site

[rough ruin]

I only went over graph algo's in my algo class

[tacit grove]

is it 2 tech coding rounds then an EM round for the onsite?

[sonic coral]

Yeah and if you get em you passed the two tech rounds

I didn’t get em lol

[sonic coral]

Yeah we did every data structure + backtracking/dp + some named algos

[tacit grove]

okay...gotcha

[rough ruin]

data strucutres was separate class for me

[sonic coral]

Same

I did data structures freshman year

[rough ruin]

freshman wtf

[sonic coral]

Yeah first sem was oop and second sem was data structures + discrete math

[rough ruin]

damn your school move fast

[sonic coral]

Lol what cs classes were you taking freshman year

[rough ruin]

i didn't have a freshman year for CS cuz i switched in from a diff major/school but normally they do a first sem class that teaches you psuedocode and flowcharting and other shit then 2nd sem class that you learn C

oop is year 2

[sonic coral]

Ah yeah we learn Java first

[sonic coral]

Pseudocode and flowcharting? Interesting

The lowest level cs class which is intended for non cs majors teaches intro to Python

[sonic coral]

Yeah our oop class is half intro to Java programming half oop lol

[rough ruin]

Ah my oop class is C++

We had a Java class but it was entirely project based

[sonic coral]

Yeah didn’t have any c++ classes

[slim mortar]

[fresh lagoon]

[ornate cliff]

mr @young peak can you critique my plan pls as a noob? gonna start grokking (starting July), then blind 75 ( starting mid to late August)... hopefully finish it all by end of September? Then idk, repeat questions or do company tagged?

not sure if that's good timing....

[sonic coral]

you'll be able to get through grokking in less than a month for sure

[ornate cliff]

oh really? while working?

[sonic coral]

oh you're currently working?

[ornate cliff]

till end of aug

then school lmao

in my last internship

[white escarp]

I think grokking and blind are similar

Just do one and spam tagged

U can do neetcode100

And just spam tagged

[young peak]

Just do any of the primers like Blind 50, neetcode 100 etc and then do company tagged once you feel comfortable doing mediums

Just make some time to do 2-3 questions a day

That's like an hour or so of work?

Not too bad

Also once you're doing tagged, try to find someone to do mock interviews with. Those are the real golden tickets

[ornate cliff]

I was thinking grokking would help with pattern recognition... not sure if it's important

[ornate cliff]

Yaaaa I need that for sure

[young peak]

I didn't do grokking so I don't know how helpful it is

if you think its a good place to start, then go ahead

anything is fine as long as you're actually doing the questions

[ornate cliff]

I'm curious how did you get comfortable with hards?

[young peak]

I'm not comfy with hards lmao

[ornate cliff]

or comfortable enough to pass GOOG OA/interview

[young peak]

Honestly the OA was kinda fucked ngl my code wasn't that great

Just enough to cover basic edge cases

For the interviews, there weren't any hards

I got pretty lucky overall

[ornate cliff]

🙏🏼

thank you mr yogi

Ima start grokking and if it's lame I'll jump back into neetcode 100

[vital meteor]

sometimes rng be like that

you can study but if you get lfu cache your fucked

[ornate cliff]

"can I do lru cache instead pls "

[lament frost]

@vital meteor good luck for G today bro

Got my zon final in 3 hours, never felt this stressed before don't know why

[vital meteor]

Gl man were both gonna make it

[lament frost]

I'm so stressed about lp questions , wtf Kait get your shit together

[vital meteor]

Yea try not to be nervous and treat it as a conversation

[winged jay]

Good luck

[coarse quiver]

🍌 in the bag

[bleak raven]

how y’all feeling bout the recession

imo it’s a good thing

lower RSU initial price for us

[coarse quiver]

Less headcount/hiring tho I guess

[vital meteor]

Good if you already have a job bad if companies have hiring freezes

[lament frost]

Good idea

[nocturne oriole]

[bleak raven]

LMAOOO SO TRUE

AHAHA

[ornate cliff]

facts... if we get employed it's a big W

basically pre covid prices, even lower

[dusty basin]

Keyword: if

[ornate cliff]

you're cracked have some faith

[dusty basin]

[lament frost]

Narrator's voice: They weren't

[coarse quiver]

When are ur amz interviews?

[vital meteor]

Probably now

He said in 3 hours, 3 hours ago

[dire yarrow]

Its like 4 am my time lmao

guy giving interviews

[vital meteor]

Ye they on that European time

[dusty basin]

Why aren’t u asleep bro

[dire yarrow]

[dire yarrow]

Why aren't you

[dusty basin]

I asked u first

[dire yarrow]

My sleep sched fucked up

[dusty basin]

Unfuck it. Ez

[coarse quiver]

Do u know how many interviews?

[lament frost]

Now

1st one clear

LFGOOOOOO

[coarse quiver]

3 interviews?

[lament frost]

4

It's Amazon, go to sleep lumen

My bar raiser had covid and still wanted to gave me an interval problem

[dusty basin]

Oh lol I thought u had google

Mb

[dusty basin]

I am asleep

[dusty basin]

Ez

[lament frost]

not ez, prayge only

If I don't get a graph problems at zon too I'll fucking pissed

[dusty basin]

Gl bro. May the rng gods be with u

[lament frost]

Thanks b, if I got an offer I'll doxx myself to you

[dusty basin]

When u get offer :dogesmile:

[rain patio]

by 'grokking' do you guys mean system design?

[lament frost]

Your pseudo is goated

[coarse quiver]

🍌 or gtfo

Time to bag 🍌 and double ur salary mr kaitsuke

[lament frost]

Don't jinx me mr Bog

[coarse quiver]

Jinx

U think I am a league player?

[lament frost]

Me neither

2 rounds left, starting in 10 minutes

Touching grass for 1 year after

[coarse quiver]

Just do nothing to be bored. It improves creativity

Therefore, quit discord

[lament frost]

I'll play MH Rise

[lament frost]

Finished it, the last one was weird af

[coarse quiver]

Explain

[umbral plover]

akuna python oa

[lilac locust]

no.

bog

[coarse quiver]

Pretty good. Pissed by uni but I will not see it again (no more work/courses ). Going back to Berlin.

[lilac locust]

why

[coarse quiver]

I took 2 days off, going back to France for at the end be pissed by uni

[lilac locust]

france

which company

and how is TC broken down

[atomic karma]

very bad

[lilac locust]

and what is the exp level

[slate bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-verne-over-the-hedge-turtle-disbelief-gif-24744867

that’s a juicy offer

[lilac locust]

bytedance

WLB does not exist

the first two years is p good

then you want to jump ship

[lilac locust]

.

[rain patio]

2023?

[coarse quiver]

That's poverty

[lilac locust]

damn they deleted it

[coarse quiver]

Yes

Bs/lc grind soon too

I plan to do a 1 month dsa challenge with @waxen kayak

Lc contests + bs contests

[lament frost]

What is bs @coarse quiver

[dense blaze]

@waxen kayak the vanitas degen

[coarse quiver]

Binarysearch.com

[lament frost]

Why not only LC

[coarse quiver]

Also the loo degen

[coarse quiver]

Cuz u can create private rooms and play with ur friends

[lament frost]

Play what

[coarse quiver]

"Play" lc

Solve dsa problems

[sonic coral]

Ew

[lament frost]

Thanks

[rough ruin]

Lc is serious business

[coarse quiver]

Eq

[sudden depot]

when do you think more new grad positions will start opening up?

[waxen kayak]

Soon

I feel my shoulder getting better

[waxen kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/vanitas-no-carte-vanitas-give-me-your-hand-come-come-here-gif-23062108

[dense blaze]

LC in rust

[ornate cliff]

Coinbase getting nuked

[rain patio]

rip coinbase man

they are going out bad

[ornate cliff]

Crypto winter is here

[calm shale]

Return offer probability 0%

Gonna be grind hard with y’all

[jagged torrent]

Apparently all layoffs were finance people

According to layoffs.fyi

The SWEs are still safe

[rain patio]

And talent

Recruiters

[nimble wren]

markets gone to shit, stock is down, finance bros fault

[ornate cliff]

Brooooo it's time to buy buy buy

[dusty basin]

Gotta have money to buy

[ornate cliff]

Oh right

Carry on

[oak drum]

Do companies verify that you have actually graduated upon joining full time?

[calm shale]

Nah seniors and managers got caught too

Someone’s manager and skip manager both got laid off

[oak drum]

Were the layoffs arbitrary

or nah

cause like I saw on linkedin

hella people flexing that they got laidoff

like most mfs put Ex-Google ex-Jane Street etc

but I saw someone put Ex-Coinbase laid off or some shi

so is it like clout

or was it perf based

[rain patio]

They’re not really flexing

they’re tryna find new opportunities

[oak drum]

yeah but like

if it was perf-based that looks bad

[rain patio]

na they rescinded a lot of peoples offers then cut 20% of staff. Not because they were underperforming I don’t think

They probably worked in less important orgs

[oak drum]

oh shittt

[rain patio]

Or less important positions

[gleaming fable]

yes

[oak drum]

thanks for the info

[oak drum]

how?

[gleaming fable]

At least I think they do

[oak drum]

transcript

[gleaming fable]

some will ask for transcript yeah

[oak drum]

wait what?

do you know for sure

obv intuitively they do

[gleaming fable]

no it'll vary by company

[oak drum]

ok

cause I'm thinking of applying for new grad for fun

[gleaming fable]

my company hasn't asked me yet for proof for example

[oak drum]

what's the name of your company

[gleaming fable]

Oh you mean like in the application stage?

companies will check your university status when you apply during the background check

[oak drum]

yeah but that dosen't do jack

I had senior status coming in as a freshman

[coarse quiver]

Except G for statistics purposes and some hft like citadel, it is rare to get asked transcripts

[oak drum]

this for interns ye

[gleaming fable]

the bg check companies have access to US university registry systems that let them check your status, on top of that some companies ask for transcripts like google

[oak drum]

but what about for newgrads

[rain patio]

They just checked on my background screen for me, to verify my school

[gleaming fable]

Google asked me for a transcript too for new grad

[oak drum]

what does "bg check" mean

[gleaming fable]

background check

[oak drum]

post hiring or pre hiring

[gleaming fable]

pre hiring

[coarse quiver]

Can company access gpa?

[oak drum]

what distinguishes a "bg check" Company from simply a company? don't all companies do bg checks? @gleaming fable

[gleaming fable]

I believe so

[oak drum]

you have to dish over bread

pay uni

[gleaming fable]

its just shorthand

[oak drum]

nah but you called it a bg check company

I know what it means

"the bg check companies have access to US university registry systems"

this implies that there are companies that don't have bg checks

[gleaming fable]

oh I misunderstood

[oak drum]

lol ye i gotchu

[gleaming fable]

companies that are hiring you almost always outsource their background checks to other companies

[oak drum]

my debugging skills striking at the wrong time

CS has fucked my brain

[gleaming fable]

that's what I meant

that's a good question tho I'm not sure if companies check again after the pre-hiring bg check

[oak drum]

yeah that would be interesting

[gleaming fable]

my gut instinct is no but I'm not completely sure

[oak drum]

cause I can just troll apply for new grad

and then just do classes in paralell

[gleaming fable]

def a possibility if you can do it without time conflicts

like exams happening during meetings

[frank wedge]

Some Space and Defense companies do, I think

[coarse quiver]

Citadel literally asks ur gpa during application

@waxen kayak told me cit screen on gpa

[waxen kayak]

Cit asks for gpa in the app yes

And someone I know got asked for his transcripts after his interviews right before offer iirc

[elder locust]

two sigma and g does this too

[ornate cliff]

Dropped my GPA from my resume, pray no one asks for my transcript LMAO

[rancid ice]

anyone have a link to a list of new grad positions?

[oak drum]

did he get caught

I know damn well you don't know ken griffin

no, you're not and I know that

for all I know, you aren't

[waxen kayak]

Intern

[coarse quiver]

Most don't

[oak drum]

you can't get caught for lying on resume, and mentioned he is at cit

[coarse quiver]

Depends on the of lies

[oak drum]

yeah true

depends

[coarse quiver]

Fs if it is uni or prev exp, no

[oak drum]

but @raw wing said "at cit" so I know he fantasizing

making up some stories

ken griffin

[coarse quiver]

Pltr didn't, G didn't, imc didn't, datadog didn't

Amz didn't

MSFT didn't

[oak drum]

yakhub getting flamed out here lmfaoooo

[slate bobcat]

Vanguard didn’t

vanguard new faang btw

free lunch

[coarse quiver]

Hft simp uk

[slate bobcat]

not even amazon offers that

👀

[oak drum]

I'm not an hft simp

[slim mortar]

F

[coarse quiver]

I'm speaking of yahkub

[oak drum]

yeah exactly

[coarse quiver]

Where?

[oak drum]

i didn't realize initially

[slate bobcat]

dodging it more than yahkuna spamming

[oak drum]

because i'm your daddy ken griffin

[coarse quiver]

He seems lost

[slate bobcat]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[coarse quiver]

I was exactly the same

Completely lost

[oak drum]

I'm planning on committing all the LC quesitons to memory

anyways

I can't problem solve for shit

so gonna have to do the brute force naive apporach

[coarse quiver]

So where

[oak drum]

bro can't come up with sample cases 💀

classic yakhub

always talking from a theoretical perpsective

[coarse quiver]

Bro is flammed by a random

[oak drum]

lmao i'm just joking

[coarse quiver]

U only apply to quant firms now?

At akuna?

Damn

[turbid raptor]

is there a link to open 2023 grad apps?

or like a list

[coarse quiver]

Are most people cracked?

I guess yes

I focus on tech companies rn. I might simp hft later (in 2-3 years maybe). I will use the gigantic list posted by dracos somewhere that he pulled from the Quant server.

Really?

[rain patio]

wanna fight?

[lament frost]

You're too cracked for hft bro

Go for rentec

[slate bobcat]

nah I have too much respect for you

[rain patio]

[woven sable]

Anyone has done Akuna Capital Python OA? Any suggestion?

[ebon basin]

good luck, I took their C++ OA and it was pretty tough. I think it was like 3 LC mediums/hards and 10 MC questions in like 90 minutes I think.

[prime palm]

when do most new grad positions open

excluding quants

idc about no quanty bois

[slate bobcat]

I have too much respect for you too

[lilac locust]

Grass touched

[slate bobcat]

GRASS TOUCHED

[lilac locust]

I am conufsion

[woven sable]

it is python, i know

thanks, i get inspired

[bleak relic]

What's the criteria to move forward?

[opaque wing]

Anyone has done Akuna Capital Python OA ? Any suggestion?

[dusty basin]

Just do it bro

[ebon basin]

Sorry No idea I bombed that shit hard lmao

[lunar hatch]

I did it last year

Got 2.5/3 coding problems

And for MCQ think I got 6-8

Out of 11

Moved forward to phone

[unkempt coyote]

Heyoooo anyone know what the Google FT new grad process looks like after OA

[ornate cliff]

3x45 technical and 1x30 googliness I think

[surreal shuttle]

How was the phone?

[lunar hatch]

Easy

Was practical tho

[unkempt coyote]

Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[rain patio]

are any of you guys double majoring? do you think it would make any difference in the job search?

[tulip rain]

Are Google 2023 new grad apps open?

[unkempt coyote]

I don’t think so I had a recruiter reach out 😅

[rain patio]

did you intern there already?

[white escarp]

Bruh when will recruiters reach out to me

[woven sable]

Bruh when will recruiters reach out to me :PepeHands:

Bruh when will recruiters reach out to me

[normal palm]

where are we applying to

[rain patio]

def not coinbase

[lilac locust]

Coin base

[normal palm]

coinbase stock just casually shattering after all the viral rescinded posts on linkedin

[lilac locust]

Lol

[dire yarrow]

Recession. No motivation.

@pulsar mural

[dire yarrow]

@pulsar mural is so popular even in coinbase server

bro you're gonna get so many referrals from ppl

[calm shale]

Referral? He can have my wife

[ornate cliff]

LinkedIn posts don't have that much power

[lament frost]

Next season bro, you're a king/queen/whatever tf you want

[vital meteor]

^keep trying, never give up. so many people from the 2021/2022 group never expected to get the offers they have now

[dense blaze]

[rain patio]

Is there any company that has a way for interview candidates to draw to visualize their explanations to interviewer for remote video interviews?

[slate bobcat]

[rain patio]

[gleaming fable]

I know I sure fkn didn't expect this job lmao

[obsidian crater]

What books are you guys using to prepare for interviews?

[gleaming fable]

for textbooks EPI is generally considered the best and comes with lang specific versions

(elements of programming interviews)

personally I use algo.monster. leetcode prem for explore cards, and neetcode.io to prep

[rain patio]

where do you work?

[gleaming fable]

afresh, ml/ai startup in sf but I work remotely

[dense blaze]

do they use Rust?

[gleaming fable]

I don't think so

[dense blaze]

fuck

[gleaming fable]

its mainly ios dev + ml/ai, idk what the ml team uses

i know python for sure off the top of my head but not sure about other langs

[lament frost]

EPI is SO damn good

But hard af

[obsidian crater]

haha I literally just got EPI delivered today

I'm gonna take a look after work

Is it mostly just more problems like Leetcode?

[rain patio]

I feel books are more for long term prep. got to cram LC prem in 1 month :laughcry:

[lament frost]

Some are in LC, some are not

[wheat forum]

EPI has plans based on the amount of time u have in the book

as long as 3 months and as soon as 3 days

[rain patio]

what happened to CTCI?

[obsidian crater]

I TA'd for algorithms so most of leetcode isn't too bad

[wheat forum]

there’s just better alternatives

[obsidian crater]

But Leetcode has some gimmicky problems sometimes that suck

[rain patio]

you were thinking ahead I see

[obsidian crater]

I wish CTCI had a judge like EPI

[rain patio]

EPI judge?

[obsidian crater]

I was a failed IOI contestant lol

I tried but didn't make it past the first round for my country's selection

Then I kind of quit doing DS/Algorithms until junior year of university

[rain patio]

woah. kudos for the effort

[obsidian crater]

Doing Data Structures + Algorithms in 11th grade while studying at school is rough

[winged jay]

hey , i too have these resources. i'm kinda overwhelmed actually. In what order would you recommend consuming these for a google interview ?

[obsidian crater]

I don't have algo.monster

Is it worth paying for stuff when Neetcode exists?

[rain patio]

father NC

[obsidian crater]

Job search anxiety sucks

[rain patio]

try anxiety of having to start all over after having an offer rescinded 😀

[obsidian crater]

Oh dear

[rain patio]

where?

JPMC internship

they rescinded? wtf

shame on them

I'm international. reason was that they don't sponsor internationals for full-time

oh

[lament frost]

oh

[slim mortar]

oh

[obsidian crater]

damn

[fathom dagger]

Anyone got contacted by randstad sourceright?
I got contacted by a recruiter who works for them recruiting for google early career.
Thoughts on them?

[topaz briar]

i'm connected with a bunch of them, google just outsources hiring to them and they usually only look for ppl with 1-3 yoe

[fathom dagger]

I got contacted and I graduate in Dec

[topaz briar]

yep same here

[obsidian crater]

Any tool for resume screening stuff?

[lament frost]

wdym

[jaunty basalt]

yeah for msft interview scheduling after i applied online, other times its when they reach out

they are good

[honest cloak]

I wouldn’t recommend paying for anything

So much good quality free stuff

[obsidian crater]

Like to see if your resume meets ATS standards

[gleaming fable]

Focus on algo monster first, those are the core algos you need set up in a very structured way. If I could only pick 1 of those to prep with it would be algo monster

Then use the leetcode explore tags to reinforce any algos or patterns you had issues with, then neetcode/grind75 in a small consistent way daily to keep it fresh in your mind

[rough ruin]

Wish I had the money to do algo monster right now lol

[jaunty basalt]

How much is it

[gleaming fable]

$100 base price but creator discounts are always out there for 10% off

[jaunty basalt]

One time thing

[gleaming fable]

and then they sometimes have 20% off codes around holidays, I used one around christmas time

[jaunty basalt]

?

[gleaming fable]

Nah I think they keep putting em out

[jaunty basalt]

Nah the 100

[gleaming fable]

ohh

yeah lifetime access

[jaunty basalt]

Oh word

That’s nothing

U put down 100 you get 200k

[gleaming fable]

fr it really isn't since p much everyone else is on a sub model, and the ROI is ridiculous

[gleaming fable]

exactly

[jaunty basalt]

I bought grokking about a year ago

Like the anniversary was like last week

Crazy gains

[rain patio]

Coding or System design?

[tulip rain]

Akuna Matata

[jaunty basalt]

yes

iconpolltickyes

[rain patio]

[calm shale]

[honest cloak]

Yeah you still owe me $100

[rain patio]

Do I need to know about AWS to be an AWS engineer?

[jaunty basalt]

Yeah you still owe me $100

when do you get ur sign on

[honest cloak]

I don’t have a sign on

[jaunty basalt]

[honest cloak]

When do you get yours

[jaunty basalt]

when i start

[honest cloak]

Hmmmm

Yeah imma need you to send that 100

[jaunty basalt]

nah bro u send me 100

[honest cloak]

But you’re making more money than me

[jaunty basalt]

how do you know that

[honest cloak]

Trust me I know

I’ll bet 100

[jaunty basalt]

shit

[honest cloak]

Also where did you even end up

[jaunty basalt]

[honest cloak]

Uhhhhh

[jaunty basalt]

im joining bloomberg

i got apple, msft, amzn, atlassian, coin , intel etc

[honest cloak]

💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

Yeah bro that imma need that nyc loan

[rain patio]

Shoulda took Zon smh

[jaunty basalt]

@honest cloak so what happend to grad school

i still have my guess

[honest cloak]

What’s your guess

[jaunty basalt]

wpi

[honest cloak]

Worcester polytechnic institute?

[jaunty basalt]

i mean u start work but thats if u do go to grad school

[honest cloak]

Yeah I know what you meant lmao

[jaunty basalt]

cemma?????

[raven cedar]

So with all this recession shit, how are y'all evaluating the stability of companies?

[honest cloak]

I realized I don’t like school

And I also realized I don’t really know what I want to do career wise

So grad school would not make any sense

And my grades are pure garbage

[honest cloak]

I just know my company is stable idk about others

[jaunty basalt]

u leaning towards something?

rn im thinking ill do it in 2 years

a masters

[rain patio]

where at

[jaunty basalt]

ill let you know when i get there

all ill say is T10

my school feeds to two of them for phd but thats not me

just want a measly masters

[honest cloak]

Lmao

[rain patio]

i cant see myself going back to school

[honest cloak]

If I don’t like my job at PwC. Then data science. If I do like then solutions architect

[honest cloak]

That means you have to stop working

[jaunty basalt]

no i dont

u can do both

[honest cloak]

Don’t you have to move for your masters tho

[jaunty basalt]

i just wont finish in a year

dw i got it

[honest cloak]

Well masters is 2 years anyway

[jaunty basalt]

nah bro

not all of them

who does thesis anyways

[honest cloak]

Why wouldn’t you do a thesis

You might as well

[jaunty basalt]

if i do thesis im getting a phd

[honest cloak]

It doesn’t work like that

[jaunty basalt]

bro not like that

im saying ill do a phd program

if i ever have to write one, obviously u dont just convert

[honest cloak]

But like

[jaunty basalt]

like u need to do research, i have zero

[honest cloak]

Why would you even do a masters if you’re not doing a thesis

It’s just a little something you complete and you’ll feel fulfilled

[jaunty basalt]

thats you bro

[honest cloak]

Wait

[jaunty basalt]

i wasnt a cs major

i didnt have access to all the grad classes out there

undergrad was hard for me bro

but i have the grades for it

so im bing

[honest cloak]

You were a CE major tho

You chillin tho

But what would the masters do for you exactly

That you can’t do rn

[jaunty basalt]

its just another piece of paper

to feel fulfilled

but fr though there are some classes that i want to take that arent stuff im gonna do all of the time at work

[honest cloak]

That’s valid

[timid charm]

Cash on hand

If they have enough to get through the next few years without issue, then the company won’t go under. Doesn’t mean there won’t be layoffs but I think it makes them substantially less likely.

A fifth or more of that is crypto last I checked

Yeah they had what like 4 bil?

Ah the russia strat

yeah agreed

i honestly agree w their CEO tbh

like I think the cuts were beyond needed and they did overhire

The fact they did that shows poor leadership and market predictions (which is terrible for a company like this) but I do think this was the correct correction

Anyways fair counterpoint however I think coinbase is in a weird spot where they are especially susceptible to markets performing poorly, and also drastically overhired last year

I think the overhiring is a big deal tho - I would expect fb to have layoffs at some point

You can’t hire 10k devs this quickly and expect all of them to be performers

[earnest summit]

Do internships trigger cooldowns for full-time positions or nah?

[clear depot]

no

they are 2 different roles

[earnest summit]

oh gotcha

[jagged torrent]

Coinbase makes me

[rain patio]

[jagged torrent]

?avatar @rain patio

[earnest warren]

Avatar for tony 917#4133

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[rain patio]

[pulsar mural]

@rain patio

[jagged torrent]

Rip to him

Did I burn something

Do some people not know he died

[rain patio]

no spoilers

[jagged torrent]

WELL YOU DO NOW

[rain patio]

[jagged torrent]

[frank wedge]

John boy

[sonic coral]

Jim Cramer is also the guy who was telling people to keep buying investment bank stocks back in 2008 even when they were in free fall

Absolute clown

[rain patio]

jim is indeed a clown

[jagged torrent]

Fuck Jim

This tbh

[jaunty basalt]

cramers rule suks

[sonic coral]

https://youtu.be/gUkbdjetlY8

[rain patio]

this tbh

hes too loud

[jaunty basalt]

wait u took lin alg?

[rain patio]

yeah

[jagged torrent]

Fuck Lin Alg

The proofs in that course were brutal

[sonic coral]

I took applied math courses whenever I could and I’m so glad I did

Proofs would’ve killed me

[calm shale]

coinbase makes me

[jagged torrent]

Were u affected by them?

[rain patio]

[jagged torrent]

@rain patio

[rain patio]

@jagged torrent

@slate bobcat

[calm shale]

interns are fine for now. but it's hard to focus with all this stuff going on

[jagged torrent]

How is the work environment there

Are they acting like nothing happened

[calm shale]

no one's acting like that on my team

[jagged torrent]

@slate bobcat

[calm shale]

honestly all the meetings been super quiet

feels like someone died or something

since two people who's liked a lot on the team got let go

[jagged torrent]

Did they let go SWEs?

Fuck

[calm shale]

ye

and managers

[jagged torrent]

Yeah that’s not nice

[calm shale]

l3, l4, l5's all had laid offs

[jagged torrent]

That’s probably not a good thing to show interns

I doubt most of you would consider a career with them

[calm shale]

ya for sure

only reason i'd still want a return offer is for negotiation power

[rain patio]

damn

thats tough

[grizzled bronze]

Was that in the additional layoffs that happened recently?

[chilly burrow]

I'm scared my companies gonna have layoffs soon as well 😔

[grizzled bronze]

Which company?

[chilly burrow]

Snap

[calm shale]

ya monday

well not additional

new grad offers were rescinded two weeks ago, and lots were laid off this week

[grizzled bronze]

Seems possible, but Snap would be safer than crypto

[grizzled bronze]

If they extend you a new grad return offer, would you take it?

What company

[calm shale]

i mean if i have no choice, yes lol. otherwise hard to say, probably not

[grizzled bronze]

It's Thanos Pog, like ok cool

[calm shale]

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-cursed-terror-moving-move-gif-16644513

[undone reef]

anyone wanna gib me grad jub

[calm shale]

only if you win that aram

[whole zinc]

will a recession cause fang to hire less new grads?

[calm shale]

yes

[jagged torrent]

I’m actually scared google rescinds my offer

I’ll be so hurt

[sonic coral]

if google starts rescinding then shit has hit the fan hard

nowhere would be safe

[rain patio]

i think google is the last company that would

legit nothing to worry about

[undone reef]

damn

i gotta try harder this season wtf

this recession sucks

[atomic karma]

i dont think ad revenue is risky

businesses always need to grow

[rain patio]

what if there's no businesses

lol in terms of tech companies, id def say google is one of the most safe

[sonic coral]

the thing with any faang is they have hundreds of billions in cash

[atomic karma]

thats a whole different scenario

[sonic coral]

and msft too

[dusty basin]

Any faang is super safe

[jagged torrent]

I’m on the ads team too

[atomic karma]

oh wtf

[dire yarrow]

[atomic karma]

you're yucci

[rain patio]

can u guys just make it 1 ad

[sonic coral]

google also has a precedence of not rescinding/laying people off during recessions

[dusty basin]

Ye so ur last to go

[atomic karma]

[rain patio]

why do u guys have two ads per video

[jagged torrent]

[atomic karma]

adblock

[jagged torrent]

I’ll find that out

[dusty basin]

Apart from ntflx and meta idk which faang has had layoffs

[jagged torrent]

I’m gonna target CSC discord users

And make them watch 7 45 second ads that are u skippable for a 3 minute video

[sonic coral]

i feel like most people who buy yt red did it because mobile ads tbh

[dusty basin]

Or TV

[dire yarrow]

When did meta have layoffs

[sonic coral]

oh right smart tvs

[atomic karma]

i'll only consider it if I had a TV

[jagged torrent]

Yeah tv ads are annoying

[atomic karma]

but i do everything on computer

[rain patio]

ill never pay for needless subscriptions

#frugality

[dusty basin]

Amazonian at heart

[dire yarrow]

[calm shale]

i legit think apple has the best business

they have everything

[rain patio]

when u let your friend borrow your laptop

[dusty basin]

They have the best customers

Cult

[calm shale]

they're expanding into every industry

[runic wind]

TIL the guy who created Invisalign has been the CTO of Tower, the CTO of Radix, has worked at HRT, and now works at Headlands

[calm shale]

when their car comes out, its over

[atomic karma]

it's scary

[calm shale]

honestly

[dusty basin]

Imo Amazon has best business

[rain patio]

some people just diff

[runic wind]

Also was chums with bezos when Amazon was acquiring Alexa

[dusty basin]

They’re already in every industry basically

[atomic karma]

they're basically now also a financial services company

with buy now, pay later

[calm shale]

Apple will absorb every other company before they go out of business lol

[undone reef]

its ok

they wont fire the next kirby

[dusty basin]

Apple is basically transitioning to being a services company

[rain patio]

do you guys think the age of unicorns is over

[atomic karma]

yep

stimulus check go brr in 2021

[grizzled bronze]

It never started, unicorns are fantasy

[fast sierra]

are you talking about unicorns as in the animal or companies

[undone reef]

iphone 14 pro gon be in my pocket no cap

who else gon get

[calm shale]

animals

duh

[rain patio]

yeah I mean there was so much hype over brex databricks stripe etc

[rain patio]

companies, age of animal unicorns will never end

[atomic karma]

isnt unicorn 1 billion valuation

[rain patio]

ye

[atomic karma]

felt like every random company cleared that in 2020-21

with enough vc funding

and softback

[dusty basin]

Yes

[calm shale]

lets make a unicorn and split the funding

[dusty basin]

Until I start LRT

[atomic karma]

i dont think it's over

[runic wind]

Unicorn should be 1b revenue imho

[dusty basin]

Ofc it’s not

[dire yarrow]

There are so many unicorns

[rain patio]

like i deadass think people will stop memeing amazon when things get real bad

[calm shale]

that would actually make it rare

[undone reef]

yo is it true that amazon interview is just going over ur OA?

[runic wind]

100%
I think it has already gone down

[atomic karma]

but amazon is always in a recession

[calm shale]

if you do well on oa

[dusty basin]

It’s also because Amazon has improved because of the bad rep

[undone reef]

ahh, how about the internships

[runic wind]

No

[calm shale]

same thing pretty sure

[dire yarrow]

If we all fund our company with our TC, we need 10000 new grads to make a unicorn

[runic wind]

Nah internship is harder

[rain patio]

i thought internship was always 1x45

[undone reef]

bc mine was 1x45

[runic wind]

FTE was OA + interview going through OA like in 2020

[undone reef]

but my interviewer was fking wack

he wouldnt let me think a solution out

and just tell me the answer

[atomic karma]

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[rain patio]

[atomic karma]

52k

[undone reef]

dead server

honestly

[atomic karma]

we can do this

[fresh lagoon]

20 locked channels

[dire yarrow]

And maybe a few experienced

[rain patio]

cool kids don't wanna hang with us

[runic wind]

Has anyone interviewed at Headlands/virtu here?

For swe/dev

[undone reef]

FUCK THE LEETCODE GRIND, CHICKEN PROTEIN GAINZ SEASON

[rain patio]

yes

[runic wind]

Well
I would like to believe so

[undone reef]

do u kno if i start the grind spring 2023 like january 2023

will it be too late

[sonic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-we-are-all-gonna-make-it-zyzz-zyzz-pose-gif-24463755

[jagged torrent]

Roblox has best business

Idk what you guys are talking about

[rain patio]

unironically heard back from headlands and not virtu

[runic wind]

I have a phone in a few days

[rain patio]

i think so yea

[runic wind]

What do I do

[rain patio]

shit good luck

study as much c++ as possible

[frank wedge]

Buy a case for it

[rain patio]

[runic wind]

Where
Herb Sutter?
Gonna binge cppcon

[dire yarrow]

You mean popcorn?

[rain patio]

id just search most common c++/modern c++ shit

[grizzled bronze]

Answer it

[rain patio]

maybe scroll through cppref and review concepts you think might be relevant

[runic wind]

Template stuff?

[nocturne oriole]

😼

[dire yarrow]

?avatar @runic wind

[earnest warren]

Avatar for kamikaze#0857

Link as

png | jpg | webp

[rain patio]

i didn't get much on templates tbh

[runic wind]

Dang, I thought most hfts are crazy about templates

[jagged torrent]

Bob the developer

[rain patio]

i didnt get to interview at all of them but honestly for the most part wasnt too crazy

i just suck

[runic wind]

Same
I messed up big time last intern season

[rain patio]

how was ur gpa for virtu btw

3.9?

or >3.7?

[runic wind]

Yeah

[rain patio]

fuck

[runic wind]

Idek these things are random

[rain patio]

good stuff though and gl on interviews

[dusty basin]

Bruh

Even @young peak knows

plus I work there

[young peak]

Yeah Amazons doing well for themselves recently

Obv there's shit teams still and maybe even crap orgs

but improvement is good

[sonic coral]

my friend got a goated team for his zon internship

[jaunty basalt]

What is this goated team

[sonic coral]

some team on marketplace, its got a modern tech stack with code thats < 4 years old, fullstack stuff, chill wlb, no meeting thursdays, and every second friday is off during the summer

[ornate cliff]

Bruhhhhhh that's INSANE

No meeting Fridays are like a company-wide thing already