wtf i never worked there 💀
#2023_grads
fallen fox
cloud zinc
getting rejected so hard that they mistook you for a rehire
tardy geode
brave forge
Anyone excited to be unemployed in 2025?
2025 new grad jobs going to be out soon enough
cloud zinc
they releasing 2025 jobs in 2024?
tribal rampart
Anyone excited to be unemployed in 2025?
I am not
rustic glacier
wtf i never worked there 💀
its a scam..
patent flame
hello kings and queens
craggy jacinth
whopping time
polar grail
wtf i never worked there 💀
scam asking for ssn 
?
fallen fox
nope, i applied through their icims portal
gusty oxide
Consume all content at 2x speed
fallen fox
you just graduated
too early to be dooming
if you're still unemployed a year from now, maybe consider buying rope
grim ore
if you're still unemployed a year from now, maybe consider buying rope
time to update ur headline again
forest scarab
you just graduated
what does 28 days mean
fallen fox
what does 28 days mean
it's 6 days now, 6 days from 1st of January and I will be unemployed for an entire year
forest scarab
it's 6 days now, 6 days from 1st of January and I will be unemployed for an enti...
i thought ur working
chilly burrow
is it just me struggling
Nope, a ton of ppl r
fallen fox
true 
elfin flint
is it just me struggling
no you're not alone
forest scarab
ty it just feels like it sometimes
patent flame
W
queen leaf
W
rain patio
tribal wigeon
last december
Have you done any internships before?
fallen fox
Have you done any internships before?
yes, i'm not a citizen though so there's that lol
got rejected a bunch cuz of that
tribal wigeon
yes, i'm not a citizen though so there's that lol
A student visa or permanent resident?
brave forge
How do u get gc
fallen fox
How do u get gc
job 
tribal rampart
is it just me struggling
@tardy geode
tribal rampart
bro glorifying me for unemployment
No, you’re our saviour 🫡
tribal rampart
then what about <@227064594990891020>
It’s like TinTin and Captain Haddock
vocal kraken
Is anyone joining Walmart Sunnyvale soon? I am looking for female roommates/new lease from February.
vapid shell
Anyone familiar with the Karat for BNY Mellon and what a passing mark is for interview?
autumn iris
@tardy geode does the new policy apply to you
more people can work for sweatshops now on opt
autumn iris
what new policy
idk i saw a linkedin post about it from my friend
apparently people on opt can work for early-stage startups
was it never a thing?
gleaming trellis
bro glorifying me for unemployment
what you been working on you said sweatshop?
tardy geode
what you been working on you said sweatshop?
rn i work as a ra under a prof at my uni
gleaming trellis
rn i work as a ra under a prof at my uni
resident advisor?
gleaming trellis
research assistant
Doing what?
tardy geode
gleaming trellis
writing automation scripts and doing some data cleaning
This can be experience?
stone crystal
anyone have any experience with rhombus systems in sac?
rain patio
anyone have any experience with rhombus systems in sac?
The who what in WHAT now!? 🤨📸
stone crystal
🤣🤣
forest scarab
should i apply for masters
vital meteor
rope? 
vapid oasis
so initially I thought u could just use. a minheap, which given the constraints should work
but when I saw my solution only beats 6% submission
I was like crap
the past few days the daily lc problems have been interesting
golden agate
What are ya'll opinions on cold LinkedIn messaging a Vice President of Engineering about a job? They are a fellow alumni of my university
tribal rampart
bitter quiver
hey everyone, hope the job search is going okay for you all. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice given my current situation. I recently graduated may 2023 (B.S. in cs) with no experience but have coding bootcamp experience from 2022. As I've been applying the last 6 months, I found that applying internships has been difficult because most of them prefer current students and apprenticeships are not common and sometimes only accept non-CS degree applicants. I've been looking at entry-level full time positions but it seems that most roles require some amount of experience. I also tried applying to startups as I thought this would be the best option for me but it's been difficult finding ones that are paid. Should I just go for unpaid roles initially?
bitter quiver
hey everyone, hope the job search is going okay for you all. I was wondering if ...
as of now, just been applying to new grad roles
autumn iris
hey everyone, hope the job search is going okay for you all. I was wondering if ...
i mean
what do you want us to say
if ur a graduate then u can't apply for internships unless ur a special case
u just keep applying for jobs, find other job titles, learn new skills,etc
bitter quiver
did a bootcamp junior year of summer because I dropped out of premed halfway through undergrad
bitter quiver
premed to cs
bitter quiver
yeah i had to take extra classes or just fill my schedule with cs classes
autumn iris
idk it was a mistake to rush a CS degree without internships
bitter quiver
yeah no experience, including internships
bitter quiver
i got projects and a portfolio
more like 2 years and i took the intro classe my first year just to try it out
autumn iris
if ur not international, then its not that doomed
bitter quiver
i did summer sems too
autumn iris
yeah
bitter quiver
yeah it's a good school t-12 ish, and yeah near metro area
autumn iris
how many jobs have u applied to anyways
autumn iris
yeah it's a good school t-12 ish, and yeah near metro area
name?
bitter quiver
nearing 400
autumn iris
yeah
not that doomed
have u tried using handshake
just fix resume, and just keep applying while doing projects
bitter quiver
have u tried using handshake
yeah i just apply to the fresh roles but don't find too many swe apps
since may
bitter quiver
best case is i get an entry level full time but worst case i do a low paying swe role at a non-tech company
elfin flint
I see entry level I apply.
autumn iris
apply to non-swe roles
bitter quiver
yeah i do want to get into that field
bitter quiver
you dont need to limit urself to swe
i tried web dev roles too though
autumn iris
idk i just think
getting a swe job atm without any experience
is hard
nepotism helps too
bitter quiver
why bank and consulting companies? is it less competitive?
autumn iris
are u a citizen
bitter quiver
cool didn't know that thanks
autumn iris
its pretty doomed atm though, just keep applying
elfin flint
Wait really? I live in TX and I don't see that
bitter quiver
yeah i guess ill just have to keep applying and netowrk
autumn iris
if it was a normal hiring season then sure, but its hard to say
tldr: use nepotism
bitter quiver
ive just been leetcoding and learning skills from online sources post-grad but it's been a slow process
autumn iris
ive just been leetcoding and learning skills from online sources post-grad but i...
have u gotten any interviews
i think that should be the main concern
there was job openings from summer/sept
bitter quiver
most of them came from unpaid internships on wellfound, but received maybe 2-4 phone interviews outside of that
and 10-20 coding assessments
bitter quiver
full stack dev using typescript/react.js and node.js/express.js, postgresql
and then i use java for leetcode
i've considered masters but i guess the only thing im hesitant about is the timing of it but at this point if it's better for me i wouldn't mind going that route
i think im fine being jobless till the summer, then ill need to consider other options temporarily
autumn iris
masters is like
the worst idea unless ur an international
and its still a bad idea
bitter quiver
yea tru lmao
autumn iris
also MSCS right now it too competitive unless ur talking about one of those online masters
but its a waste of time/money
right now, the entry market is just ass
elfin flint
Beside portfolio what should I build ?
autumn iris
until we see when they drop interest rates
elfin flint
I'm building a pygame right now
autumn iris
i heard interest rates is gunna change mid-late next year
autumn iris
i dont trust how people calculate opportunity cost unless u got a job offer in hand
even getting an analyst job is hard atm
theres a ton of people who graduated with eco/business degrees too
its not just CS
bitter quiver
i gotta format it to remove some private info but i can send it later. This is my portfolio though https://terrence-jung-portfolio.vercel.app/ I do have to work on deploying my projects
bitter quiver
i will say i could make my projects way better so that's something imma work on
autumn iris
the issue is that market has changed
theres more entry than the number of jobs available
theres way more business/econ majors than CS
also math, career switchers
bitter quiver
that's from bootcamp lolll each lesson was a repo
elfin flint
Man I'm a permanent resident and I just passed the naturalization interview. English is not my first language that's why I'm so scared to talk to people
autumn iris
they havent been firing but also not hiring as much unless ur already experienced
no
the engineering acceptance rate is way less
compared to any other degree
elfin flint
@vale forge
Should I buy this ?
Yeah I feel like I need something to push me through
But only 18 bucks I think that's fine
bitter quiver
just went through your portfolio page, inspiring stuff bro
bitter quiver
google bard's goated
rustic glacier
i use chatgpt for all my learning
its top tool
can explain topics and ideas in ways u can understand
personalized learning
golden agate
i gotta format it to remove some private info but i can send it later. This is m...
cool site. I have projects deployed but need to create portfolio site myself
forest scarab
will more jobs release this yr
quartz sonnet
i use chatgpt for all my learning
Try phind.com it gives more accurate results as it searches the web and scrapes relevant info.
rain patio
fallen fox
oak kite
yea im ngmi, got rejected from lockheed, feels bad. I thought the interview went well :/
rustic glacier
yea im ngmi, got rejected from lockheed, feels bad. I thought the interview went...
why not apply to smaller-mid sized companies
and not all big names
if u keep applying to the ones everyone else is how do u expect to get in?
frosty bison
yea im ngmi, got rejected from lockheed, feels bad. I thought the interview went...
same, I also thought I did good, the interviewer was so chill, we were vibing. I thought lockheed was a yes or yes company
misty pilot
Yo, has anyone got microsoft OA yet for the new grad position?
polar grail
yea im ngmi, got rejected from lockheed, feels bad. I thought the interview went...
just apply again, they going repost that same job posting few weeks later
eager crag
Yo, has anyone got microsoft OA yet for the new grad position?
Some did. It’s over
polar grail
misty pilot
Some did. It’s over
Really. Damn. So I am just getting a generic email again
eager crag
Really. Damn. So I am just getting a generic email again
Thank you for your interest in Microsoft!
misty pilot
Thank you for your interest in Microsoft!
😭
grizzled bronze
Yo, has anyone got microsoft OA yet for the new grad position?
not all roles have oa, i've only seen specialized roles like ml/ai get oa
misty pilot
not all roles have oa, i've only seen specialized roles like ml/ai get oa
The swe one's don't have OA?
grizzled bronze
The swe one's don't have OA?
they might, but i haven't seen anyone here get oa for the general swe
plus it's holiday season, give it until january
rustic glacier
dont expect anything till mid-end of janurary
feburary is best bet
but keep applying tho no matter what but just be patient
misty pilot
dont expect anything till mid-end of janurary
Yeah, there's almost no new job postings.
rustic glacier
if u were u guys i would build connections rather than spam apply to postings that have 100s-1000s of applicants
vital meteor
Yo, has anyone got microsoft OA yet for the new grad position?
I usually get a response 6 months later for the rejection
misty pilot
I usually get a response 6 months later for the rejection <:gladge:1042985604452...
That's been my experience as well. But I managed to get a referral this time, plus a new and revamped resume. I don't know if I am delusional for even applying though lol
eager crag
That's been my experience as well. But I managed to get a referral this time, pl...
Their site says referral has no effect for Microsoft
prisma kindle
If it had no effect why would they even have it xD
eager crag
If it had no effect why would they even have it xD
Maybe for non intern/ng idk they may just lie
oak kite
why not apply to smaller-mid sized companies
thing is i didn't apply to it, a recruiter reached out to me
oak kite
same, I also thought I did good, the interviewer was so chill, we were vibing. I...
Did you follow up with them? I was thinking about asking them what went wrong
like ask for constructive feedback
frosty bison
Did you follow up with them? I was thinking about asking them what went wrong
Nah, I asked the recruiter why it was taking so long to update the status in the portal. Didn't ask for feedback.
oak kite
yea was really hoping that was the end of my job hunt, oh well
frosty bison
She said just keep applying, they post positions like every week
But their hiring process is so slow
oak kite
hmm i said something along the lines of lockheed being a reputable company and aligning with my interests and past research experiences in cyber security
the interview went for the whole hour so i thought it went really well
oak kite
But their hiring process is so slow
yea i heard just getting the interview is the harder part but idk i got rejected twice now, feels bad
like they threw some broad technical questions which i answered correctly but man im so bummed
oh yea i did mention how I really liked their initative to protect the states
but idk man, just really want to know like why i wasn't considered
yea that's all i can do
frosty bison
but idk man, just really want to know like why i wasn't considered
Are you dual citizen?
oak kite
nope
frosty bison
I'm a dual citizen, US and Peruvian, not sure if that worked against me
oak kite
I'm a dual citizen, US and Peruvian, not sure if that worked against me
did you have one interview with Lockheed?
rustic glacier
thing is i didn't apply to it, a recruiter reached out to me
Yea but in general you should be focusing more on making connections
oak kite
what you mean?
frosty bison
Yeh I already pledged allegiance to the flag 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
oak kite
oh
frosty bison
did you have one interview with Lockheed?
Just one during the SHPE conference
oak kite
yea i mean maybe that's what happend who knows
oak kite
Just one during the SHPE conference
damn yea, i had two lol, rejected both times
tribal rampart
Any tips for meta final?
oak kite
what websites are you guys using for your job search?
past hound
I doubt LM would. If anyone is gonna make you give up dual citizenship, it would be for security clearance by the government.
(that is pointing the finger at the wrong person)
Although, I am sure it depends on the country.
rustic glacier
what you mean?
I mean talking to people in the industry. Whether its going to software meetups, going out and talking with people
thats how i got my current job and now how im going to get my next job
have 2-3 connections lined up to get me a job and each is an upgrade from the last
i applied to 1500 postings and got no results from it barely any interviews but got job easy through connections and fast
They are just jealous they dont have social and networking skills
fallen fox
95k sounds nice
oak kite
I mean talking to people in the industry. Whether its going to software meetups,...
hmm i have tried looking for software meet ups but I haven't seen any in my area
in in nova
frosty bison
at this point any pay is good pay
fr
proper jungle
Hey yall I’m not sure if I am supposed to post about this in this channel but I need some help. My career was originally physical therapy, I just graduated in May with a bachelor of science, majoring in health science. However, now I don’t want to do that career path anymore. I want to be a data analyst/DBA or something along databasing, but I have no idea what to do education-wise or certification-wise. Any advice would be really helpful, sorry for imposing 😔
frosty bison
Hey yall I’m not sure if I am supposed to post about this in *this* channel but ...
Don't know much about data analytics, but I've heard the Google Data Analytics cert is a good starting point. That and some projects
oak kite
what websites are you guys using?
.
ornate cliff
Hey yall I’m not sure if I am supposed to post about this in *this* channel but ...
is there a data science degree you can get into? either a second bach or masters?
school -> internship -> full time is the tried and true path
oak kite
yea i feel like school is always the best route
rustic glacier
learn ur stuff and grind connections
oak kite
but really take the time to learn the material as opposed to jjust getting the grade. Teaches you to problem solve
as opposed to brute force
yea it's a 1 shot interview
which makes me feel even worse
it's mostly behavioral with broad technical questions
past hound
Unfortunately true for most companies. The bar has risen.
past hound
Although, for me, getting the interview was the true struggle rather than the interview itself. Resume screen is brutal this year.
rustic glacier
yo what websites are you guys using
please listen to me. I tried every website every job board and applied to 50-100 everyday for 2 months. I got all ghosts and maybe 1-3 interviews from it. I grinded my connections and got 3 interviews and landed job on the third one.
proper jungle
is there a data science degree you can get into? either a second bach or masters...
I was thinking of getting a database associate’s but I’m not sure if that is sufficient, and I was also thinking master’s but I am not sure if I meet the criteria to even apply in the first place since my degree is health science and not computers
oak kite
dawg i had 5 interviews so far (no idea how) and blew them all
rustic glacier
ur best bet to get a job is connections without a doubt
if u had connections interview process is much easier
oak kite
please listen to me. I tried every website every job board and applied to 50-100...
how did you grind your connections
oak kite
yea but where did you find netwroking events
rustic glacier
yesterday i went to a rave and got a connection there
oak kite
i believe you bro
proper jungle
Don't know much about data analytics, but I've heard the Google Data Analytics c...
I will look into it thank you!
oak kite
i looked at meetups
past hound
dawg i had 5 interviews so far (no idea how) and blew them all
I had 0 swe internships, so my resume probably went in the trash almost immedately. I got 1 interview in this entire cycle, and got a offer from it.
ornate cliff
what is a database "associates"?
oak kite
I had 0 swe internships, so my resume probably went in the trash almost immedate...
damn congratulations man
rustic glacier
literally every chance u get connect
proper jungle
An associate’s degree in database technology
oak kite
i have 0 internships just two research
oak kite
literally every chance u get connect
ah i see
rustic glacier
you gotta go out
oak kite
bruh i only have friends in nyc lol
rustic glacier
i literally used to see a guy in a nice car and went up to him asking him for a job
oak kite
yea idk about that tbh
ornate cliff
I was thinking of getting a database associate’s but I’m not sure if that is suf...
don't go for some random cert and get stuck at the end... look at the job you want and work backwards from there.... see what degrees/internships people with that job have and form a similar path
rustic glacier
now i got my dream job cause of connections when i was hopeless for months applying endlessly on job boards
oak kite
yea also, theres like flow charts for certifications
oak kite
now i got my dream job cause of connections when i was hopeless for months apply...
when did you graduate?
rustic glacier
august this year
ornate cliff
An associate’s degree in database technology
what country is that
proper jungle
don't go for some random cert and get stuck at the end... look at the job you wa...
Okay, thank you! I am just worried the education portion will take too long 😭😭. I already spent 4 years for that health science bachelor degree.
proper jungle
what country is that
United States
oak kite
Okay, thank you! I am just worried the education portion will take too long 😭😭...
look at flow charts
rustic glacier
now i got a connection the other week with this cto for a big fintech firm. Gonna be going there in 6 months
ornate cliff
Okay, thank you! I am just worried the education portion will take too long 😭😭...
who cares.... if it's your dream just fakn go for it mate... there's plenty of time 
proper jungle
look at flow charts
What flow chart ?
Man finding out what you want to do is so hard
ornate cliff
United States
yeah no you need to be smart about this.... an associate degree is not competitive in this market for data science... I don't know about DBA tho, not sure what you like about that job so much
proper jungle
I went to 3 career counselors and based off what I said, they lead me to this career choice 😅
ornate cliff
I went to 3 career counselors and based off what I said, they lead me to this ca...
time to sit down and do some serious research... career counselors don't know shit
past hound
Keep in mind the number of tech jobs crashed, so be prepared to grind.
oak kite
What flow chart ?
something like this https://www.reddit.com/r/dataengineering/comments/15bycwi/a_list_of_database_certifications_here/
oak kite
time to sit down and do some serious research... career counselors don't know sh...
yea theyre just paid to give random advice
proper jungle
time to sit down and do some serious research... career counselors don't know sh...
⁉️😭😭
ornate cliff
⁉️😭😭
talk to people in the field, not some random "counselor"
find people on blind/reddit/discord/linkedin
watch their youtube videos
proper jungle
I am also talking to my cousin who is in the field, he told me you don’t really need a degree to get into the field, just certifications and experience. Another reason why I joined here and other subreddits, to ask for advice too
ornate cliff
I am also talking to my cousin who is in the field, he told me you don’t really ...
what is your cousin's job exactly?
proper jungle
what is your cousin's job exactly?
He doesn’t do database specifically but he works in cybersecurity
ornate cliff
He doesn’t do database specifically but he works in cybersecurity
so someone who works in cybersecurity gave you advice about databases?
ok ok just certifications and experience
we know how to get certs that's clear
how do you get exp?
not the ucf sticker LOOL
ornate cliff
I would spend some more time researching and figuring out what kind of path leads to your dream job
proper jungle
I would spend some more time researching and figuring out what kind of path lead...
I definitely am ty 😭😭
ornate cliff
rustic glacier
this is top reply of the year
u get it
idk bout u but the peeps i meet give me da baggie for da free cuz we vibe
tribal rampart
Anyone have tips for meta final?
rustic glacier
Anyone have tips for meta final?
i know zuck if u need a referral
met him at edc orlando this year
rustic glacier
Anyone have tips for meta final?
be confident
for real
dont act like u just came from school
present yourself as having knowledge
tribal rampart
dont act like u just came from school
Yeah good to know
Isn’t it good to have a CS brain?
gloomy terrace
Bro is addicted to discord like just do leetcode and you’ll be fine
rain patio
Anyone have tips for meta final?
I had a brain aneurysm trying to read your name bro
forest scarab
will more jobs release in jan 😭
safe dawn
according to my oracle eye that predicts the entire future the answer is no
according to my oracle eye the answer is go be a cashier
forest scarab
would yall do unpaid intern in the meantime of job searching? or waste of time
safe dawn
according to my oracle eye the answer is yes
yeah i think i need to get better glasses
ornate cliff
would yall do unpaid intern in the meantime of job searching? or waste of time
I would. Just have documentation or proof in case of background check
covert owl
is it worth buying simplify ai to tailor ur resume?
no
elfin flint
according to my oracle eye the answer is yes
When can I rope ?
forest scarab
need job 😭
gleaming trellis
need job 😭
Any job?
gusty oxide
It can be, there are probably people who are into that
rain patio
Bro who thought joy sticks were a good idea for smash bros ultimate? The controls sre so janky smh
I had full controp of my character in smash bros for the wii becausr the controller had a d pad
The joy stick of the switch is wacky. My guy randomly sprints and stops and then sprints again
ornate cliff
Bro you don't dash dance?
elfin flint
can you live in NYC with this rate ?
ornate cliff
can you live in NYC with this rate ?
Yes (with 8 roommates)
craggy jacinth
it still has 200 apps 
elfin flint
elfin flint
might as well do postmates at that rate
I think target employee has the same rate
crystal hollow
or work for a weed service
if you can ride a bike and don't mind potentially getting robbed
autumn iris
Most people who r applying to those jobs are already living in nyc
Why would u move across citys when u can work at a fast food for the same rate
patent flame
I haven’t checked discord all day today
Grass was touched
Have y’all done a no lc interview? Like just general oop questions
oak kite
yea defense contracting jobs usually do that
patent flame
First time I’ve done it
rocky yacht
this is top reply of the year
Going to Countdown?
crystal yoke
can you live in NYC with this rate ?
No......
steady ember
Anyone received the OA for PayPal software engineer new grad role?
gleaming trellis
Anyone received the OA for PayPal software engineer new grad role?
Got rejected many moons ago
rain patio
pliant hamlet
forest scarab
wat are 23 unemployed grads doing atm? thinking about masters? doing part time?
grim ore
wat are 23 unemployed grads doing atm? thinking about masters? doing part time?
@tardy geode @fallen fox
forest scarab
@fallen fox is employed
grim ore
<@227064594990891020> is employed
he likes to LARP as unemployed
elfin flint
wat are 23 unemployed grads doing atm? thinking about masters? doing part time?
thinking about 🪢
oak kite
yeee thinking about kmsing
tawdry nacelle
Praying next month is the month I find a swe job or else I’ll have to pick up a serving job until I find one
forest scarab
Praying next month is the month I find a swe job or else I’ll have to pick up a ...
same
grizzled bronze
he likes to LARP as unemployed <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
not only is @fallen fox employed, he's working at a CAANG company 
golden agate
campbells?
steep cove
grizzled bronze
campbells?
tawdry nacelle
I said serving bc it’s supposed to be something to hold me off till I find a swe job and plus I already having exp bc I worked in a restaurant the entire time I was in college
tribal rampart
wat are 23 unemployed grads doing atm? thinking about masters? doing part time?
@tardy geode , but I have faith he’ll get one in January
rocky yacht
Nah going to a party
Oh nice nice
rain patio
brave forge
I’m going to make it
brave forge
I said serving bc it’s supposed to be something to hold me off till I find a swe...
How is serving working for u?
Do u get $100 in tips per day
rustic glacier
serving is definitely the way to go if u cant find a job in tech
i was interviewing for serving job but fortunetly got a swe job shortly after
you can make 25-35$+ an hour lol better than a lot of new grad jobs in canada
tawdry nacelle
How is serving working for u?
The restaurant I used to work at, serving could easily get you around $300-$500 on an avg day through tips alone depending on stuff like how big a section you got, etc
rustic glacier
I’m so poor I need this in my life <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
Go apply for min wage job
and while u work keep applying for tech jobs
it could take you a month to find a tech job or 6 months
elfin flint
Luckily I still have a good amount while selling Nfts
tawdry nacelle
thankfully I saved up a lot while in school working part time so I should be fine to apply jobless rn
violet topaz
i just got an offer for some swe job im guessing around $27/hour
rustic glacier
better than nada
get ur foot in the door, work for 6 months to build up skill and experience and dip for double
and in the meantime build connections either at work or outside of work and get that bag hoe
brave forge
it could take you a month to find a tech job or 6 months
im just hoping i land a job in 2024, im going to dedicate my life to finding one 🥺
rustic glacier
im just hoping i land a job in 2024, im going to dedicate my life to finding one...
focus on connections and networking
ur #1 chance to get a job in this market
brave forge
ur #1 chance to get a job in this market
i get recommendations all the time but idk if it goes anywhere. I have two jobs ive been recommended to im waiting for a response from
ive literally never been contacted back from a referred job, but jobs I apply to randomly contact me back
rustic glacier
not talking about referals especially in big companies cause that wont get you anywhere
and network with people who have influence
so manangers etc
even presidents/cto etc
and aim for smaller companies. Word means more in smaller companies
brave forge
people give me this advice all the time but like how can i hype up a new grad resume? it's just a few internships and a degree
rustic glacier
people give me this advice all the time but like how can i hype up a new grad re...
Thats the thing with connections vs cold apply. You dont have to hype up for connections because the company trusts the word of the person recommending you
tardy geode
The restaurant I used to work at, serving could easily get you around $300-$500 ...
what?!
300-500 via tips
rustic glacier
vs cold apply u are applying against people with years of experience
tardy geode
tipping culture is wild in the US ngl
brave forge
imo you can get a meal for $15 that's not too bad, i usually tip maybe 2-3 dollars
pine topaz
like ever
broo ineeed to havee ur balls of steel
esp in canda, this is like a warcrime
i dont wanna get bombastic sideeyes
but the boss should just pay the worker more isntead of me
rustic glacier
Yea im in canada too, i look them dead in the eye while i press 0 %
pine topaz
💀
rustic glacier
yesterday dinner bill came to 113$
rustic glacier
lady was staring at me thinking im tipping and i pressed 0
rustic glacier
nothing they can piss off
i worked as a host in red lobster in uni and never got tips
and did same work as servers so fuck that
pine topaz
my brother treated us and tipped a chinese server 0 dollars from a popular chinese restaruant and they chased us down and forced us to tip lmao
rustic glacier
nah id throw hands for that
violet topaz
i only tip at sit down restaurants
ebon summit
my brother treated us and tipped a chinese server 0 dollars from a popular chin...
they didn't force you
violet topaz
aint no way im tipping for a $7 coffee
ebon summit
u just gave in
pine topaz
u just gave in
prety much
ebon summit
tips in canda are ridic
rustic glacier
aint no way im tipping u for doing ur job
pine topaz
yeah they were very confrontational about it
ebon summit
I just speak french and they ignore me
ebon summit
yeah they were very confrontational about it
brah half the time
all they do is move my food from point A to B
how is that service
pine topaz
bro i ate a high end dinner one time in toronto , bill was like 200 dollars and they forced 18 percent tip, i cant change it
ebon summit
esp when they make me get water
brave forge
id rather just take take out at this point loll at least they dont got to pretend to help u then
all u did was bring food from over there to here i coulda done that 😦
pine topaz
yeah for sure
brave forge
i dont even tip uber and skip lol
bruh once i was in an uber and this lady bitched at me all the way there because uber dont pay her enough and apparently she thinks people dont tip enough either 💀
i hate asking americans for any service, id rather do it myself. But in that case i needed to get to work in the morning at my internship before i had a car so i had to use uber
that's not easy just dont click 30% LOL
pine topaz
loaded like @elder forum
i never knew wealth inequality is abig problem in the us
the difference between us and u and @elder forum is huge
grizzled bronze
not tipping is normal in canada?
brave forge
@elder forum genome edits people into convincing them to give him money
pine topaz
not tipping is normal in canada?
tipping is the norm here
we are basicaly a US state
so what every is normal in US iits normal here
yes, with joever 2023, it might beocme Ropeyes
grizzled bronze
i rarely order delivery, but when i do i make sure to tip, because they deserve it
jolly imp
I didn't know that express has a 70 dollar shirt
grizzled bronze
starbucks isn't worth it, i rather eat my calories than drink it
rustic glacier
i thrift all my clothes
jolly imp
Even Starbucks be asking for tips <:4KEKW:747188103260799060>
I can't refuse that most of the baristas are cute
rustic glacier
i do wear vintage style
elfin flint
I can't refuse that most of the baristas are cute
Simp
jolly imp
in vintage I only like Carhartt stuff
ornate cliff
we are basicaly a US state
Welcome to 🇨🇦 : Cali COL with EU wages
elfin flint
jolly imp
taxes?
rustic glacier
Welcome to 🇨🇦 : Cali COL with EU wages
literally
neon perch
Yo guys what new year plans
pine topaz
Welcome to 🇨🇦 : Cali COL with EU wages
I personaly ❤️ it, have you ever played darksouls vs cod? Darksouls is way more fun because its more challenging
With joever january 2024, it will be more fun
ornate cliff
Yo guys what new year plans
job applications on account of it being jumpstart january
pulsar mural
@pine topaz
elfin flint
Yo guys what new year plans
Apply -> reject -> thinking rope -> apply
pulsar mural
grizzled bronze
neon perch
Jumpstart January round the corner
ebon spire
Where is a good place to find strongly consistent, and partition tolerant rope?
tardy geode
Jumpstart January round the corner
tardy geode
Where is a good place to find strongly consistent, and partition tolerant rope?
ross
omw to 2018
tardy geode
everything is deadly in australia
brave forge
i dont see it on my map
bold pier
Jumpstart January round the corner
People gon be jumping for sure
fallen fox
modest rampart
With joever january 2024, it will be more fun <:gladge:922955236212101161>
trump 2024 fr fr
economy 📈
brave forge
trump 2024 fr fr
trumps not even on the ballot how is he going to win?
modest rampart
just watch
ornate cliff
trumps not even on the ballot how is he going to win?
he couldn't even pass resume screen
one of us
tawdry nacelle
what?!
For reference my old restaurant was in universal Orlando, wasn’t burger and fries place, so was also one of the more pricey places in there
spark nova
my guy was charging tips for thrill ride safety, not fries.
that's the only way people would have paid 300-500
warm locust
How are international students doing?
autumn iris
grim ore
How are international students doing?
@tardy geode @fallen fox
tawdry nacelle
It was a sit down restaurant, not a burger fry fast food place like I said in my comment
tawdry nacelle
that's the only way people would have paid 300-500
Avg table of 4 would come out to around 110-150 a table if it’s all adult meals, people paying 300-500 would be groups of 10+
tribal rampart
How are international students doing?
In general, not great
tardy geode
<@280172882708135937> <@227064594990891020>
💀
tardy geode
Damn wtf did you do to have everyone calling you out like this
idk myself
it was started by @tribal rampart
tribal rampart
Sorry, was just tryna help 😭
gleaming trellis
idk myself
Were you the one saying writing Python scripts is not a SWE related job?
tardy geode
Were you the one saying writing Python scripts is not a SWE related job?
i never said this
tardy geode
Sorry, was just tryna help 😭
tawdry nacelle
Sorry, was just tryna help 😭
Reparations will be made, now everyone in this channel will call you out
pulsar mural
autumn iris
is this channel being deleted
vital meteor
is this channel being deleted
like we never existed 
autumn iris
forest scarab
is it the job market or just skill/exp issue 😭
polar grail
is it the job market or just skill/exp issue 😭
Both
polar grail
do u have job
Not swe job
forest scarab
Not swe job
what kind of job
forest scarab
It consulting job do with sap
still job tho
polar grail
still job tho
Ig but im getting 0 career growth here and the company not allocating any project to me for past months , my non billable hour so high may be fire soon in 2024
forest scarab
i cant get any job 😦
forest scarab
It consulting job do with sap
did u have consulting exp before
polar grail
did u have consulting exp before
Nah
Apparently they liked my prerecorded behavior response
And tech interview face to face was just asking how switch two variable value in python
polar grail
did u have consulting exp before
Did u try apply for any of those talent/consulting companies before that pay 60k-70k
Though most of them have a lot a of bad rep and have some shady business practices
forest scarab
Did u try apply for any of those talent/consulting companies before that pay 60k...
no can i trust those companies?
polar grail
no can i trust those companies?
Depends if ur desperate and willing to travel around or not
From what I read for swe consulting they sometime offer to fake ur resume to make it seem like u have years of experience to their client
And a place u to mid-senior lv positions
While only paying u 60-70k and 10k performance bonus
And depending on companies they would force u stay for 1-2 year so u cant job hop and if u do u got pay fine or some sort like 10k-30k
Some people say it unenforceable
rain patio
pliant hamlet
grizzled bronze
elfin flint
When you thought 22~23 rate was bad
tawdry nacelle
When you thought 22~23 rate was bad
That has to be a mistake bc having a Junior Dev being paid only $2 more an hour than NYC min wage is insane
Or well nyc new min wage starting tomorrow
elfin flint
tawdry nacelle
It’s not the first time I’ve seen a LinkedIn job posting have a mess up that big
grizzled bronze
That has to be a mistake bc having a Junior Dev being paid only $2 more an hour ...
it's not a mistake, companies can pay that low
tawdry nacelle
it's not a mistake, companies can pay that low <:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:10143526...
That’s not even 40k a year in NYC, if they expect you to move there, you wouldn’t find anything cheap enough to live in
This just shows some employers are getting cocky knowing the market is saturated
autumn iris
rustic glacier
bad faith for sure
vapid oasis
Well last day Fr us. It’s been a pleasure ppl!!
rain patio
That’s not even 40k a year in NYC, if they expect you to move there, you wouldn’...
Can't you live in a closet with 3 roommates or something?
I have 8 roommates 😂
tawdry nacelle
Can't you live in a closet with 3 roommates or something?
Uh pass
I’ll choose to get paid an actual wage and not just “eXpErIeNcE”
rain patio
Hope u can find something 😭
Software jobs will soon be as low paid and common as mcdonalds jobs at this rate
That feel when mcdonalds managers make more than jr software devs 😭
grim ore
@fallen fox are you resetting the counter to 365 days at midnight
elfin flint
If it was an internship and already live in NY, I would take it
But this is full time job
Mine was 15
patent flame
Mine was 18
grizzled bronze
https://tenor.com/view/its-over-soyjak-wojak-depression-depressed-gif-27376848
what is this abomination
patent flame
Happy New Year
solemn spire
Happy New Years
polar grail
Archive when?
rain patio
brave forge
last message here!
elfin flint
rain patio
cloud zinc
Failed to find a single job in this year. This shame will be held above me for the rest of my life.
however, I will use this shame to motivate me into finding a job and getting experience for 2024-25
brave forge
however, I will use this shame to motivate me into finding a job and getting exp...
Same here
brave forge
Fisher rejected me on New Year
Fisher price? The kids toy manufacturer
cloud zinc
Fisher price? The kids toy manufacturer
They mean Fisher-Yates
the rejection left 'em shuffled
elfin flint
Fisher price? The kids toy manufacturer
Fisher investment
violet topaz
channel gotta be archived
elfin flint
channel gotta be archived
where should we go ? 
violet topaz
curl up in a ball and cry
rain patio
Since this is gonna be deleted anyway, i just wanna say that I love you all 😍
grim ore
@fallen fox roped
limber gulch
if ur in nyc and interested in cybersecurity, shoot me a dm. My company is looking for ppl
west egret
rip 2023 chat
elfin flint
if ur in nyc and interested in cybersecurity, shoot me a dm. My company is looki...
Is it entry level ?
limber gulch
Is it entry level ?
yeah
grizzled bronze
<@227064594990891020> roped <:sadge:747169038911930418>
sad, but less competition
teal jackal
subway eat fresh
rain patio
subway eat fresh
Yo
teal jackal
Sorry, I just like your username
autumn iris
grim ore
rain patio
polar grail
Gotta keep these energy up and bring it to 2024 grad when channel archive
They gotta feel the ngmi
Aint seeing whole lot of ngmi in there
brave forge
Aint seeing whole lot of ngmi in there
no man 2024 is hope dont corrupt us with your old people doomerism
jobs january is here, the economy is up, joe biden hasnt fallen down the stairs yet, everything will be great
tawdry nacelle
what job sites are you guys using to find postings through
brave forge
tawdry nacelle
I currently use LinkedIn, Handshake, and Otta but wanna add another to try and find more postings
heard people use indeed, ziprecruiter, and glassdoor but curious what's people's exp with them
quick python
Hacker news has who’s hiring threads
Tons of companies that don’t post on LinkedIn I imagine, but most are looking for experienced devs
Still some desperate person could go through all the past hacker news hiring threads and try to contact people at those companies
rain patio
I bet senior devs just get phone calls from random CEO's who are begging them to switch to their company
quick python
Im still in the thinking cold applying on LinkedIn will work copium phase at this point
So not bothering to spam people online but will if I can’t get a job in 2 months or so lol
The Average senior dev I don’t think gets many calls to poach them. A competitor to their company might or if they are well known in their field and specialized
But I’m sure they get tons of recruiter messsges on LinkedIn or some hiring managers in a better market
polar grail
Consulting company using doomposting get people join them
gleaming trellis
Consulting company using doomposting get people join them
Is Synergistcit legit?
polar grail
Is Synergistcit legit?
it is an legit company
and they bold this part
they know whose the most desperate ones are
tawdry nacelle
So not bothering to spam people online but will if I can’t get a job in 2 months...
meanwhile I've been cold applying on LinkedIn for months, guess I should start spamming recruiters for recs
quick python
Recruiters or developers/hiring managers at smaller companies
elfin flint
please give me a swe job
willow sedge
does anyone have advice for what i should put in my linkedin post announcing my new job?
bitter quiver
i would mention all the people that helped you along the process
willow sedge
i would mention all the people that helped you along the process
like the hr people?
bitter quiver
yeah hr, engineers, managers anyone u talked with
grizzled bronze
does anyone have advice for what i should put in my linkedin post announcing my ...
an animated cool looking gif of the company you're joining
willow sedge
an animated cool looking gif of the company you're joining
i don’t got that lmao
bitter quiver
i also seen people shoutotu neetcode or people who made resources that you've heavily relied upon
shout out*
but up to u for that
congrats on the job though 🙂
willow sedge
ty ty i start on monday
grizzled bronze
i also seen people shoutotu neetcode or people who made resources that you've he...
i've seen people do that without even using neetcode or anyone, just to get attention from that person
covert owl
Is Synergistcit legit?
I'm pretty sure they charge you
rustic glacier
what job sites are you guys using to find postings through
Best way besides connections (connections #1 best way to find a job) is to go through linkedin for jobs and then go to the company website and apply for that job
Everyone should be focusing on connections and networking first thats the best and easiest way to find a job
as well interview process is easier
and stop applying to big companies for goodness sakes go for small-mid tier
brave forge
Everyone should be focusing on connections and networking first thats the best a...
What if I’m not hot like you and can’t get connection?
Not everybody is a ripped 6 ft 4 blonde Viking Andrew
rustic glacier
Build confidence, youre not gonna get anywhere sitting home all day clicking buttons
brave forge
I am a toad for example
rustic glacier
i bet, either way confidence is key
go out every chance u get and every time u go out try to connect
brave forge
Can I connect with a random girl at the bar??
brave forge
What about the hobo at Walmart
rustic glacier
alr alr but fr go to dev meetups, go to parties and talk with people
rustic glacier
and if u dont have confidence, cocaine is instant confidence
brave forge
If I do not end up kidnapped then I will report back with success
rustic glacier
no but im fr, i just connected with this young ceo of this tech company last weekend and got my next job lined up
got my current job by connections too
and this is after applying to 1500 places in 3 months and getting nothing, only when i started networking is when i saw progress and got a job
brave forge
no but im fr, i just connected with this young ceo of this tech company last wee...
There’s just no way a powerful person like a ceo would talk to an unemployed college grad
rustic glacier
urm yes there is, if u have common interests
not even just ceo just get someone who has influence like a manager etc
brave forge
Common interest in being broke?
brave forge
Ceo is busy man what ceo is out partying they got to run a company
brave forge
Ok
rustic glacier
seriously, ask people every chance u get. At one point i went up to people in nice cars and asked them if they have a job for me and explained im a new grad etc
elfin flint
alr alr but fr go to dev meetups, go to parties and talk with people
the introvert inside of me say no 
elfin flint
fuk job, i will be a streamer
polar grail
fuk job, i will be a streamer <:gladge:922955236212101161>
512 gb
aint that big
for game these day
got one that 1tb+
elfin flint
then just buy the 1tb ssd storage
yeah I can buy the extra ssd
rain patio
Man it must be nice to be rich
You can just get on a private plane or helicopter to get wherever you need to go, you make money just by having money and letting it grow from interest. Meanwhile, things are getting more expensive, and crime and poverty are becoming more common
slender axle
did this company name themselves this to snag people who work in NYC, searching for meta or square? kinda funny lol
autumn iris
did this company name themselves this to snag people who work in NYC, searching ...
it was made in 2014
rustic glacier
the introvert inside of me say no <:dead:753107667664371752>
U gotta push or u wont make it as far
brave forge
is there hope this yr 😭
Wendy’s is hiring
wise light
any 23 grads still jobless
also homeless soon😭
round lake
Anyone recently interviewed for Smartsheet?
rain patio
modest rampart
isnt revature a scam?
quick python
Nope
Not a good option but not a scam
You can read people experience with it on Reddit
brave forge
isnt revature a scam?
its a joke im posting it here because its hopeless
polar grail
Not a good option but not a scam
it may be the only option
elfin flint
its a joke im posting it here because its hopeless
autumn iris
peak lagoon
which role?
tawdry nacelle
Gl
vital meteor
The games can be tricky gl
violet topaz
SWE
violet topaz
a while ago never took the OA and asked them if they could resend me one and they did
elfin flint
looks more like rope january
forest elk
it starts next Monday
fallen fox
rustic light
Technical (System Coding)
Strong understanding of concurrency, threads, mutex, locks, condition variables
wat does this exactly mean
tech questions or coding based on that
golden agate
tech questions or coding based on that
understanding probably. what job is that for?
patent flame
Prob understanding
Are there ppl that rlly ask u to write multithreaded programs?
For ng
rustic light
even though if they want how will the questions usually be framed?
polar grail
<:COPIUM:965216225242279947>
u didnt rope yet? u need change expired to negative numbers
golden agate
<:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
grizzled bronze
theres still hope
delete this
elfin flint
Anyone had the error while trying to deploy on Heroku ?
could not find a required file. name: index.html
I've tried everything on stackoverflow but still didn't work
golden agate
your pathway to it is probably incorrect @elfin flint. I can't fully remember but don't you have to specify the pathway to it?
elfin flint
your pathway to it is probably incorrect <@203145819849752577>. I can't fully re...
No I don't
I checked this on their website
And I tried to remove public folder from .gitignore.
But there isn't any public in my gitignore
Been stuck like this for 4 hours
golden agate
contact support maybe or check out their subreddit
elfin flint
contact support maybe or check out their subreddit
I will try again tmr if not I will contact them
honest estuary
could not find a required file. name: index.html
did u push it to github?
elfin flint
did u push it to github?
I did
honest estuary
check if u see the index.html file in the public folder
elfin flint
check if u see the index.html file in the public folder
Oh I haven't pushed the latest update which I added public/index.html. I deleted it before
forest scarab
is there hope
elfin flint
why would u delete it
Cause it was for backend and I didn't know I would use it for later lol
elfin flint
Thanks I will try it again tmr
elfin flint
react backend
Node.js
honest estuary
ofc
crystal hollow
yeah me either
pure bloom
any spot where i can post question about golang?
studying and working a mini project about golang and just looking for advice about the language in general, plz lmk if there is a spot where i can ask question about it
pure bloom
Thank you
oblique harbor
Starting my first paid post-grad job today. Salary is shit but it's better than nothing in this job market. I hope I can get something better when the market improves.
Good luck to you guys and happy new year
steep cove
hardy cypress
New year new jobs?
brave forge
Why go back to masters when u have full time job
undone root
I mean, depends on the comp
Doesn't big tech internships pay well and sometimes pay for housing?
Nasa doesn't comp you for housing as intern
But if you do internship and don't get a return offer it's riskier
zenith salmon
Anyone gave the Wayfair final?
ebon spire
reschedueld for palantir VO :'(
rain patio
forest scarab
NGMI NGMI NGMI
forest scarab
is it dumb to apply to internships post b.s
r u doing masters or smth
undone root
nah
blazing flame
is it dumb to apply to internships post b.s
post bs as in post bullshit? as in shitposting? then no it's very worth
tulip robin
post bs as in post bullshit? as in shitposting? then no it's very worth
Think he means post bachelors
blazing flame
Think he means post bachelors
i'm aware
blazing flame
not my fault u can't detect obvious sarcasm from a shit post about a shit posting
cloud zinc
what is up with siemens? they keep pestering me for new roles and I keep getting rejected for each of them
like, you looking for interns or not?
polar grail
what is up with siemens? they keep pestering me for new roles and I keep getting...
u just aint what they looking for
forest scarab
any 23 grads still here
brave forge
any 23 grads still here
no they all roped
sleek scaffold
me except i had a job then got laid off 5 months after starting 
brave forge
me except i had a job then got laid off 5 months after starting <:sadge:73491463...
how does that happen
sleek scaffold
very bad planning from leadership you can guess which company
brave forge
sleek scaffold
<:amazon:1137089836638023801>
everyones favourite
ye ive heard 2 months even its rough out here
definitely but it is what it is we move
brave forge
at least u have enough money saved to keep looking for a job hopefully
and zon on the resume. i would just call it a co op or something lol
sleek scaffold
ye thankfully financially im more than fine i just want a job like the rest of us
clear kernel
If you can do both that's probably the best option.
forest scarab
I delayed my grad and got my offer rescinded
im sry to hear that
ebon summit
im sry to hear that
its life, but I keep going strong
if I can get 1 offer
I can always get another
just takes time
clear kernel
Oh that's different then.
For me stability is #1 priority. Depending on how confident you are in a return offer I'd prioritize the FT one
elfin flint
@honest estuary I dmed you
forest scarab
wat does it mean if u cant even get past the first recruiter round?
elfin flint
wat does it mean if u cant even get past the first recruiter round?
it means we should change our major
quick python
I think this is mostly likely If you aren’t really messing it up
ornate cliff
wat does it mean if u cant even get past the first recruiter round?
tell us more
what did they ask and how did you respond
forest scarab
what did they ask and how did you respond
just typical stuff about my exp & some technical qs
how do u do this
ornate cliff
just typical stuff about my exp & some technical qs
not a very descriptive or useful answer
forest scarab
is it typical for recruiters to ask technical qs now lol
like asking stuff about OOP, ds
ornate cliff
is it typical for recruiters to ask technical qs now lol
not very deep, just surface level if you know something or not
forest scarab
blissful vapor