#2023_grads

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autumn iris
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they doubled the intake

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and way more applicants now

brave forge
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someone paid for your school though

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nvm if your no debt then i guess its liveable

analog oyster
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u have no chill KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

sage current
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Canada new grads get 70k lmao

brave forge
autumn iris
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most people do bioinformatics because

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they came from bio degrees

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and its the easiest way to get coding skills/into tech

tribal rampart
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How are people getting Microsoft OA

analog oyster
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i hated my genetics course in bio so i just never considered it personally

tribal rampart
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Ngmi sadge

brave forge
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how do u help the world when world barely wants to give u a job though 😢

autumn iris
coarse locust
autumn iris
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yeah bioinformatics blew up cause of covid

analog oyster
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Rly?

brave forge
autumn iris
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phd in ML better ROI?

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its like

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the only phd thats prob worth doing

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also med school isn't just based on grades/mcat score

brave forge
autumn iris
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u need so many extraculliculars

tardy geode
analog oyster
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some people dont live according to financial roi too idk

autumn iris
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^ that too

analog oyster
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my pi and research-partners were super into chem

autumn iris
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idk i like research

analog oyster
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like super super into chem

brave forge
autumn iris
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and my prof is really good + supportive

analog oyster
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it was never about money they just wanted to synthesize

brave forge
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im unaware of this i feel like the only reason i grind uni is to get job and make a lotta money

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thats why i speed run uni in 2 years lol

autumn iris
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i mean u also have to consider that

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you'll be working for 50yrs

analog oyster
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foreign concept in this discord ik

autumn iris
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if ur younger, then u have a lot more options

brave forge
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21 -> 30 is 9 years

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that's just barely enough time to get senior maybe

autumn iris
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I mean sure, but ur not in school for that long

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unless u took gap years

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or worked and came back

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^

brave forge
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thats why you need it by 30 so by 40 you can get multi mil KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

autumn iris
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also i think people are underestimating how hard it is to get into a big tech nowadays

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like

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if the market was the same in 2021

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then sure

brave forge
autumn iris
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u know

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ur take home isnt that much right

brave forge
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at 21 your still in the 1% of your age group if you make that much

autumn iris
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unless u live on nothing

brave forge
autumn iris
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then idk how u get that 1mil number

brave forge
autumn iris
brave forge
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maybe 100k something would suffice if u invest early and let it compound as u get older like bob mentioned

autumn iris
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sure but i'd be miserable if its a shtty job

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idk

brave forge
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im miserable unemployed anyways at online uni

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playing video games is only fun until the 1000th hour of it

autumn iris
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the market is so bad now, that you can't trust what people say and "get a tech job"

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professors make a lot

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at least in CS they do

brave forge
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a lot of people on here are landing jobs eventually after not giving up

autumn iris
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@tardy geode pepeCry

analog oyster
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ur in a bioinformatics lab as a ta or ft

autumn iris
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machine learning lab

analog oyster
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Oooo

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What do y'all do in particular

autumn iris
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i graduated, basically doing 1yr of research til next cycle

brave forge
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he makes AI girlfriends

autumn iris
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wanted to take some time off

brave forge
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can u machine learn a dinasaur back to life plz

autumn iris
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so he just works with bio data

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my prof didnt even do a postdoc

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hes cracked

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yeah

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thats why i want to stay

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he published 30+ papers so far

brave forge
autumn iris
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no

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im going into industry prob

analog oyster
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thats literally insane

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no postdoc -> professorship

brave forge
analog oyster
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30 in his phd is hilarious

autumn iris
analog oyster
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Yeah he was insanely productive wtf

autumn iris
analog oyster
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Did it take him the average 4-6 year cycle?

autumn iris
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uhhh

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no clue

analog oyster
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Dude must have been publishing at least 3-5 times a year

autumn iris
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yeah

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so my plan is

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if he secures funding

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i get into phd, do an internship before phd

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qualifiers, then id just do an internship every summer

brave forge
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what if he secures funding and u come up with a genius AI invention and then you go private with a company and patent it and make billions like in breaking bad but you dont sell the stock early like Walter

autumn iris
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im good

autumn iris
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no

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applied scientist at big tech

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or research scientist

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why

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lol

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wut

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almost all ML phd students at my school go to big tech

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or they become profs (rare)

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no its not

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its the opposite

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most people who do a PhD in CS/ML get poached by big tech

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the issue is getting accepted into a program

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idk where u heard that

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if its outside CS/ML then sure

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because theres no job prospects

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well wat did they do their phd in

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also school matters

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okay then thats why lol

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thats literally why

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i did my undergrad in that

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bioinformatics is CS

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i literally take most my courses in the CS/CSE department

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or stats

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thats why my phd would be in ML

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no

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if ur cold-applying to phds maybe

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but PhD is based on research output and fit

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im already under a prof

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i said applied scientist/RS

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i just want to do ML research

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i mean sure

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but right now, opportunity cost is kinda low

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job market is bad for entry

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i already finished my phd courses

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except like 3 maybe

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no

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3yrs if im good

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4yrs max prob

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i finished my courses, im just doing research

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theres so many factors on doing a PhD

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like

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if u got a job immediately after B.S, then sure

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0 reason to do a phd unless u really like research

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but most people aren't in that position

brave forge
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time to work for wendy's

autumn iris
vital meteor
rain patio
elfin flint
tardy geode
rain patio
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I want to squeeze my dog until she explodes 😭

vapid oasis
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I want a dog

rain patio
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Haven't seen her in 2 years and i finally get to see her again soon

vapid oasis
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But tooo broke to take care of one

rain patio
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If you get a cat, you don't even have to feed it lol

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It'll go out and eat some mice or something

vapid oasis
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Nah I’m a dog person

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Cats r cool too

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But I want a dog

rain patio
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Just take your dog to the park and I'm sure there are a few small children it can eat 😂 lol jk

vapid oasis
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Especially a Bernese mountain dog

rain patio
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Bro will need to buy hundreds of pounds of meat per week to feed his dog

vapid oasis
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Yes and I would gladly do it

analog oyster
autumn iris
tribal rampart
rain patio
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I would appreciate some advice. I recently finished college about a week ago and i have a job lined up in a decent sized midwest city. However, I really want to live in a large city where it’s easier to make friends and meet new people with activities to do. Should I keep just accept the job I have now or should I keep looking for jobs in this bad market in larger cities and hope i get something soon?

slender axle
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no way should you risk it in a tough market, take the offer. but also don't let that stop you from reaching the company of your dreams

rain patio
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yeah the only thing is the job starts in like a month. so if i do decide to go there, i’d need to buy a car, lease an apartment and stuff

nocturne wren
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Has anyone heard back for Apple IS&T?

slender axle
patent flame
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Yea biggest thing is that u even got a job imo

slender axle
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Think of it this way, if you get a job later in FAANG, they will pay at least 20k more per year. The cost of lease and car is less than that

tardy geode
autumn iris
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hows it going

tribal rampart
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With LC atleast

forest elk
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it is time to rope

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there's no hope

gleaming trellis
autumn iris
tribal rampart
grizzled bronze
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chill out, it's not even january yet

polar grail
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January

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Hr aint reviewing anything

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Over Christmas and new years

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They on breaks

forest elk
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got nothing

grizzled bronze
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that's a good sign

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they're taking a break from their inbox, only social media until holidays are over copium

tribal rampart
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Yeah more layoffs means more vacant spots

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They’re usually slow, don’t rush them, it took 4 weeks to get movement for me

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I didn’t follow up, naturally got back

grim ore
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more interviews for darkrai even though he’s signing servicenow

tribal rampart
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About the same and I’m quitting after this week

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Like 2/3 weeks

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Cause they do team matching first

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If you don’t get team matched, time to rope

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Interesting

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I’m of no use then

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But what I know is

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They sure take a lot of holidays

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Good luck

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Can 200qs LC be completed in one week

vital meteor
rain patio
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Time to binge eat 3 large cheeseburgers, 2 large fries, and 1 large shake

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i call it the 3, 2, 1 meal

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cuz it cures depression in 3, 2, 1!

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(Side affects include increased likelihood of obesity, heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, and other unpleasant symptoms. Please see your doctor or other healthcare provider before considering the 3, 2, 1, meal)

grizzled bronze
rain patio
patent flame
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Would u guys take base 80k salary + roughly 10k bonus in todays market? Fresh out of college and in cheap city

golden agate
forest scarab
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what do i do if im a yr post grad and jobless

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is masters bad idea?

patent flame
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Yea

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Yea it’s in texas

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Yea I’ll accept and continue searching

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I just want good exp and chance at growth so I can move up if I find another opportunity

rain patio
patent flame
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Yea I figured. I’m not too worried about tc as I am about experience/work and learning

forest scarab
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idk bc ive been trying and still no luck

rustic light
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Guys have a quick doubt
Today I had an interview where there was 1:1 coding and it was manual test case checking where I failed to explain the output for a test case but the code written is correct and due to some decimal point multiplication i wasn't able to explain him properly but i think he thought the code is wrong and for the next code i got the crct output
Is it right if I mail him regarding the iterations approach now? The code is going to be the same but just explanation differs.
Any guidance on this

vital meteor
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no, emailing after the fact will prob make no difference as it would be unfair for other candidates if everyone could just add explanations after the interview tbh

rustic light
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But the interviewer had the thing in mind where he believed the code was wrong and said u need to change code at 2 points to make it work

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Im checking now the code i wrote is crct its just that i wasnt able to explain him properly

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So does mailing him makes no difference or creates any bad impression?

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oh 😂

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Then no risk

forest scarab
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i thought ur working rn

autumn iris
gleaming trellis
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what kind of work you do now?

rain patio
tribal rampart
polar grail
fallen fox
solar sun
rain patio
urban venture
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Hi, anybody joining Cohere Health for a Spring Co-Op (Jan-May/Aug)?
Pls DM

autumn iris
autumn iris
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Only doomers here

tawdry nacelle
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Fax

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Im getting tired of waking up to a dozen auto rejects each weekday

pliant hamlet
oak kite
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Does anyone have experience with Lockheed Software Engineer - Early Career? I have an interview tomorrow, from what I heard, they only conduct 1 interview before decision.

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LOL you're kidding

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oh my

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Just say you go by John

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lol fair

autumn iris
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Do u have an international name though

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idk is it really that big of an issue

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Do u need sponser?

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My name is white

vital meteor
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That's what I do

oak kite
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my name is asian asf lol

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i go by a white name tho

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yes, really need some insight, I really don't want to be doing any more interviews ngl

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Well i had one, but there were some technical

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not leet code based, just broad

tribal rampart
oak kite
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no you are going to make it

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i spent 80 hours on my resume before i started hearing back tbh

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was getting auto rejected for 3 weeks and i was like i have to change something

brave forge
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share what an 80 hour resume looks like

tribal rampart
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Matter of time

oak kite
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yea, i want to get better at LC too, im not a LC wizard by any means :/

oak kite
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i also fed in my bullet points to chat gpt

autumn iris
tribal rampart
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I was talking for my case

oak kite
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saying "Use STAR method"

tribal rampart
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I could give you a call if you post your phone number

brave forge
tribal rampart
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Too small, didn’t see

oak kite
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May 2024 be fruitful for everyone on this server :]

forest scarab
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NGMI NGMI

tribal rampart
forest scarab
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no back together 🙂

tribal rampart
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Hope you’re happy

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He wanted some callbacks

heavy trout
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bruhh

forest scarab
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i need job

heavy trout
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get job

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and dump the girl

forest scarab
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im trying

heavy trout
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lock the door

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its not that hard

forest scarab
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anyone jobless here

heavy trout
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bro its christmas

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im at work

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but not working lmao

forest scarab
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im the only jobless one here 😭

heavy trout
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buddy i get u

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im catching feelings again 😭

forest scarab
heavy trout
forest scarab
heavy trout
rustic light
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Does coderpad monitor tab switching?

heavy trout
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dont cheat

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cheating is bad

rustic light
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No after writing each section of code i have an habbit to see interviewers face and need to make him understand about that part of code

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So i want to know if that gets monitored and they shouldnt think like im cheating

heavy trout
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ah that should be fine

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i'd tell them beforehand

grizzled bronze
pine topaz
pine topaz
autumn iris
forest scarab
autumn iris
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more school

forest scarab
molten knot
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How is 90K-95K remote job (NYC). I have applied to a position and he is asking me if I am flexible with salary WazowskiStare

brave forge
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but the current market 😦

molten knot
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😂

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The job posting said 90k - 100k

autumn iris
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for new grad?

molten knot
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Well appreciate the advice. Lets see what he has to offer

autumn iris
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u gotta ask if its hybrid or fully remote

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if its hybrid then its pretty ass

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the money isnt the problem, market right now is bad

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if u got other offers/interviews, then w/e

molten knot
autumn iris
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just run

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okay yeah thats ass

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unless ur desperate cause of visa issues, then run

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yeah

molten knot
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2Y as Assoc SE, 2YRS as graduate RA

rich prairie
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but if you live IN NYC then...maybe not

molten knot
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Yes sadge

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2

autumn iris
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are u graduating with MS

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2 yoe at home country, then doing MS now?

molten knot
autumn iris
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thats a different story then, most people arent counting ur yoe that seriously

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i know a lot of people who r in the same situation as u

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the issue is the visa part

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i'd take the job/interview for it

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theres a lot of people who are doing MS that are international with experience

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the issue is that u get deported if u dont find a job after a few months

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idk when he graduated

molten knot
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Dec

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23

autumn iris
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same pogfrog

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yeah id just take the interview

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yes, but do u wanna be paid garbage

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u still lose time on ur opt if u do workarounds

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90k remote is stabile

molten knot
autumn iris
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@tardy geode can answer that for u

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tldr: if u dont have anything else going on atm, just take the interview

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wat company

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theres noone hiring atm is the issue

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if ur getting interviews, sure

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but a lot of people arent getting sht

tribal rampart
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Screw Cisco

gloomy terrace
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watch me cook

tribal rampart
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Yeah

tacit oak
gleaming trellis
rain patio
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Idk what cisco is, but i keep imagining that Crisco cooking spread stuff

tardy geode
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@autumn iris

autumn iris
mellow glade
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do you guys usually edit ur resume so it fits the desired qualifications or nah

autumn iris
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unless ur applying to stuff that is both frontend+backend

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or ML, but most people stick to one

mellow glade
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im applying to everything i can idgaf atp 😭

autumn iris
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then have multiple resume but its kinda hard to sell urself if ur experience is all over the place

rich prairie
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??

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but then it said my resume is being forwarded anyway

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despite reject

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it was confusing

tawdry nacelle
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I need these holidays to be over, bc once fiscal year is over, companies hopefully gonna be more likely to hire

oak kite
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So like the new year?

oak kite
mellow glade
forest scarab
tawdry nacelle
tawdry nacelle
mellow glade
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good to know im not alone

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but howd u know lol

tawdry nacelle
mellow glade
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yooo no way lmfao

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genuinely feels good to know that im not alone at least. we'll get something soon brother

tawdry nacelle
mellow glade
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i actually initially avoided it cause of moral reasons but i eventually folded and started applying

solemn spire
chilly burrow
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Got a Caviar sample the other day

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Na

tawdry nacelle
tawdry nacelle
craggy jacinth
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Walmart had food samples in the US?
That's crazy

whole berry
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gotta enter my sad era

pure bloom
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Was rejected by epic systems? is it joever for me? sadge

vital meteor
pure bloom
vital meteor
brave forge
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walmart dont got no free food samples, they will give you a free plastic bag

rain patio
fallen fox
tribal rampart
polar grail
pine topaz
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Morning guys, can I join

fathom dagger
vital meteor
gleaming trellis
gleaming trellis
pine topaz
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I am prepping the RFC , research and Sprint planning for the americna civil war in 2024

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I will also spearhead the invasion of Canada in 2025 with my team

gleaming trellis
pine topaz
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Luckily I found a job

gleaming trellis
pine topaz
gleaming trellis
pine topaz
fast nexus
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Do you guys think it’s a bad sign to receive this like 12 hours my final round ?

IMG_3440.png
brave forge
fast nexus
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They sent it at a random time

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Midnight

oak kite
oak kite
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thanks, hopefully he replies before my interview at 5

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heard it's mostly behaviorial but I dont want a leetcode thrown at me D:

brave forge
oak kite
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@pine topaz its urgent, i need a job

brave forge
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it's the other yahkuna that works there, @pulsar mural

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that yahkuna is a uni student

oak kite
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Oh i see, thank you astro

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@pulsar mural Please check dm, i need a job

pine topaz
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Answered, referal sent as well.

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Happy holidays eveyrone

tribal rampart
molten knot
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What does this mean?

Screenshot_20231221_124540_Gmail.jpg
fallen fox
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they're still looking into the applications and it's taking longer than expected

molten knot
solemn spire
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They mean rejection coming soon

mystic pollen
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actually they mention next steps so maybe they saw your app and might move you forward but won't do that till 2024

quartz wolf
tacit oak
willow sedge
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my company sent me a welcome letter with a starbucks card in it 😭

craggy jacinth
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The one LinkedIn message that actually responded to me tried to recruit me into Amway 🥲

elfin flint
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They keep messaging me on Handshake

shut crescent
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anyone been getting interviews lately? lol

patent flame
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Bloomberg phone in janurary

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Not swe tho. Data

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How are y’all get Meta/msft Oa? I don’t even see the job postings

tribal rampart
elfin flint
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We're joeover

patent flame
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I’m ass

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No hoes

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I am crashing

tawdry nacelle
# molten knot What does this mean?

probably they don't wanna hire till after the new fiscal year starts, so they delaying hiring process till then but looks like you're moving to the next round of hiring process

tawdry nacelle
oak kite
oak kite
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I didnt even apply to this role haha, really hoping for good news :/

trail oasis
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@everyone guys i am facing this error everytime i try to submit application for oracle:
is anyone else facing same error?

Screenshot_2023-12-22_at_12.38.27_AM.png
leaden scarab
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I had the same issue

trail oasis
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how did you resolve it?

leaden scarab
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I simply applied to a better place

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walmart

trail oasis
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i am getting this for oracle

leaden scarab
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yeah I applied for oracle and got that issue

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I applied to walmart instead

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but have you tried entering the persons

trail oasis
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lol

leaden scarab
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7 digit hex number

trail oasis
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what is that

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where should i put it

dusty cove
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lmao smae

leaden scarab
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no way you got that error too?

vivid schooner
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get it from /dev/random

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@dusty cove I will fuck you up

leaden scarab
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wtf

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what he do

unkempt slate
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lmao smae bro i got that error 2 for oracle app tooo smh

leaden scarab
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I don't believe you also got that error for oracle application

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you're lying

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cap

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I'm calling cap

unkempt slate
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bruh i totally felt that pain w/ the oracle app error like fr its such a bummer amirite? but ya gotta keep tryin tho lol we can only hope itll fix itself one day smh

leaden scarab
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@trail oasis did you fix it

red ivy
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i kno wut u mean, fr i had that same error with the oracle app, it's like, so annoying, i can't even bruh

vivid schooner
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it’s not that annoying

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shut up

dusty cove
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lmao same here, oracle app error is no joke, but wuteva we gotta keep pushin thru, right?

leaden scarab
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what the hell

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shut the fuck up

unkempt slate
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lol yea fr i kno wut u mean abt the oracle app error, it's like rly annoying, but we just gotta keep on truckin, ya know? @trail oasis: did u fix it? pvpnathan.: nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer.

trail oasis
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no

leaden scarab
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schizo chat

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wtf

vivid schooner
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surrounded by the mentally challenged

red ivy
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haha ya i totally get that oracle app error, it's like rly annoying, but we just gotta keep on truckin, ya know? @trail oasis: did u fix it? lordzedd._: nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer. y'all gotta keep pushin tho, i kno it's hard but we can only hope it'll fix itself one day smh.

dusty cove
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haha yea fr i kno wut u mean abt that oracle app error, it's like rly annoying, but we gotta keep on pushin thru, right? @trail oasis: did u fix it? pvpnathan.: nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer.

leaden scarab
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what the fuck

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mental asylumn

unkempt slate
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nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer. oracle app error is no joke, but wuteva we gotta keep pushin thru, right? lmao sry i dint fix it yet, still workin on it smh. yea fr i kno wut u mean abt it being annoying af, but it's all good, we can only hope it'll fix itself one day smh.

vivid schooner
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chill

red ivy
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fuming rn, cant believe im still dealing with this oracle app error, its like wtf man, but ya gotta keep trying tho lol, we can only hope it'll fix itself one day smh. @trail oasis: did u fix it? nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but ya know, im the type of guy whos always scheming and plotting, and im convinced that im the villain in a grand anime story, and im determined to prove myself to the world. but, deep down, im just a lonely guy looking for a sense of belonging and purpose, and maybe one

vivid schooner
# red ivy fuming rn, cant believe im still dealing with this oracle app error, its like wt...

fuming rn, cant believe im still dealing with this oracle app error, its like wtf man, but ya gotta keep trying tho lol, we can only hope it'll fix itself one day smh. @trail oasis: did u fix it? nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but ya know, im the type of guy whos always scheming and plotting, and im convinced that im the villain in a grand anime story, and im determined to prove myself to the world. but, deep down, im just a lonely guy looking for a sense of belonging and purpose, and maybe one

leaden scarab
#

fuming rn, cant believe im still dealing with this oracle app error, its like wtf man, but ya gotta keep trying tho lol, we can only hope it'll fix itself one day smh. @incognitus: did u fix it? nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but ya know, im the type of guy whos always scheming and plotting, and im convinced that im the villain in a grand anime story, and im determined to prove myself to the world. but, deep down, im just a lonely guy looking for a sense of belonging and purpose, and maybe onefuming rn, cant believe im still dealing with this oracle app error, its like wtf man, but ya gotta keep trying tho lol, we can only hope it'll fix itself one day smh. @incognitus: did u fix it? nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but ya know, im the type of guy whos always scheming and plotting, and im convinced that im the villain in a grand anime story, and im determined to prove myself to the world. but, deep down, im just a lonely guy looking for a sense of belonging and purpose, and maybe one

dusty cove
#

yea fr i kno wut u mean abt that oracle app error, it's like rly annoying, but wuteva we gotta keep on truckin, ya know? @trail oasis: did u fix it? nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer. but let me tell u smthn else, i kno im jus a cat n all, but i luv explorin new places n i jus found myself in the toilet, can u believe it? it's so weird

leaden scarab
#

entropy entropy entropy

vivid schooner
unkempt slate
#

nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer. sry i dint fix it yet, still workin on it smh. yea fr i kno wut u mean abt it bein annoying af, but it's all good, we can only hope it'll fix itself one day smh. btw im nathan, whut's ur name?

leaden scarab
#

yo nathan what you get on your math test last week

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yo nathan what you get on your math test last week

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yo nathan what you get on your math test last week

red ivy
#

nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer. but let me tell u smthn else, i kno im jus a cat n all, but i luv explorin new places n i jus found myself in the toilet, can u believe it? it's so weird. yea fr i kno wut u mean abt that oracle app error, it's like rly annoying, but wuteva we gotta keep on truckin, ya know? @trail oasis: did u fix it

leaden scarab
#

yo nathan what you get on your math test last week

unkempt slate
#

nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer. but ya gotta keep pushin thru, right? @trail oasis: did u fix it? i feel like we're all just a bunch of oracle errors tryin to figur it out smh. ya know? but hey, life's like that sometimes. anyway, what's good nate? how's it hangin?

vivid schooner
#

save us

neon perch
#

nah not yet, still tryna figur it out smh. but fr i totally feel u on that one, it's like such a bummer. but ya gotta keep pushin thru, right? @trail oasis: did u fix it? i feel like we're all just a bunch of oracle errors tryin to figur it out smh. ya know? but hey, life's like that sometimes. anyway, what's good nate? how's it hangin?

rain patio
fallen fox
elfin flint
tribal rampart
#

Did anyone else get Microsoft OA

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Are they still sending it out

vital meteor
tribal rampart
elfin flint
fallen fox
#

i saw like 2-3 people get the OA, either they're capping or the most cracked mfs here

tribal rampart
slender axle
#

Anyone else find the job titles at some companies kind of insulting? Ex: Software engineer 0. After you get a promotion you will be software engineer 1, and recruiters will think you never got promoted

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Or banks where your job title is Analyst, then Associate after a few years. Same problem, because Associate is usally the lowest title in most places

bold pier
slender axle
#

of how good you are

azure zephyr
slender axle
#

i havent been looking lately

azure zephyr
#

i applied to this a few weeks ago, and i got the OA last week. its called the AI acceleration program or something like that

slender axle
#

geez

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I'm really late

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And I would have wanted to make an AI project for my github

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Should I just send it now then

bold pier
azure zephyr
#

but i think there might be another msft position that came out last week?

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that was just general new grad

slender axle
#

Also its funny, does anyone else think PowerToys only exists for people to get promo at MSFT?

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they're like, look, we know building anything for windows is crap. so we just make the features externally to prove we can make cool stuff. then never integrate it into windows it cause they jump teams

tawdry nacelle
grizzled bronze
#

they removed the remote listing and only have redmond up now

rain patio
#

How do you get Microsoft OA’s?

cloud zinc
#

Just got rejected from paychex's dev ops coop for the summer

gleaming trellis
zenith salmon
#

@tardy geode can we connect? I am also an international student

tribal rampart
zenith salmon
tribal rampart
zenith salmon
#

Its a brutal market out there

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Fuck

fallen fox
#

graduated last december and stuck at shit job

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back to grad school i guess KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

zenith salmon
#

Bruh will the market improve?

tribal rampart
#

Amazon didn’t give me offer

zenith salmon
fallen fox
zenith salmon
wary hawk
#

its goiing to be better in January than currently at least...

tribal rampart
zenith salmon
tribal rampart
zenith salmon
tribal rampart
#

General SWE

zenith salmon
#

Ohhh

zenith salmon
#

Mind if I dm @tribal rampart ?

tribal rampart
grim ore
west egret
#

Trust me bro

rain patio
#

Civil war jan 2025

heavy trout
#

2025 disclosure

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the greys are coming

brave forge
rain patio
brave forge
#

and the walmart gets looted

rain patio
#

I'll go to a refugee camp 😭

brave forge
heavy trout
rain patio
#

Yeah but for which side tho...i think the govt will split into different factions and idk who will win

brave forge
brave forge
rain patio
brave forge
#

dont worry though

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there's just the place for you

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meal team 6

rain patio
#

Lmao

tawdry nacelle
fallen fox
#

he has ~3 months to find something

#

yeah

rain patio
#

What ever happened to the will O(n) guy

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Deported?

zenith salmon
#

Lol no

bold pier
#

Dafaq

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Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives

bold pier
#

Ideal solution is to apply everywhere regardless

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Let's just open our own company in Utah

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Or we simply stage a coupe

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We have a man on the inside

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I'm guessing it's a man

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tough times call for shitty men

grim ore
#

fartlord can’t even secure enough funding to move out of his rundown bungalow yet

bold pier
#

I wonder if he ever found out the thing in the washroom floor was mud or shit

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Make it an ETF I will invest

cloud zinc
#

my professor took pity on me and gave me an A.

#

I aced my exams and individual assignments, but at most I was expecting a C or a B+

#

one things for sure, I'm not teaming up with those people in the future

vivid wyvern
#

did anyone do goldman sachs coderpad round for 2024?

rain patio
#

Did anyone gave Rockstar Games Data engineering interview ?

rain patio
elfin flint
pliant hamlet
proud mantle
#

Question

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A company I worked for recently laid off a bunch of seniors

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Before that, I was planning on reaching out to a recruiter about future openings

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Now IDK, should I still do it or should I drop it?

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Word on the inside is that they laid off a bunc of remote people so they could get more people in-person

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My delulu brain is telling me that there might be a chance if they're just clearing out remote workers

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They didn't fire me, they just didn't give me an RO

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it's not zon I'd just rather not say

elfin flint
#

Can I get a job ?

autumn iris
forest elk
tacit oak
pliant hamlet
tawdry nacelle
#

what does the NGMI mean?

ebon summit
#

not going make it

grizzled bronze
rain patio
#

I hope we soon won't have to worry about getting a job thanks to AI

tawdry nacelle
rain patio
#

Let AI babysit us

vital meteor
tawdry nacelle
#

Time to resort to plan B: get hot and make an OF

rain patio
#

Lol

#

So what do we do when AI becomes so smart that it can do anything a person can but better? And for peoppe who say manual labor...AI can just design better robots than humans know how to make, snd then those robots can take care of all the manual labor. Millions of people are going to lose their jobs during the transition period, and I'm worried that there will bd civil unrest or even civil wars between the working class and the upper class

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That time is much closer than people think...i say give it 10 years

vital meteor
#

mentor others in NGMI mindset gladge

rain patio
#

Maybe AI will be good for us, but we have to use it properly 😭

#

I'm hoping AI becomes sentient and takes over the world but in a good way. Like, the AI understands what problems we're going through and decides to take matters into its own hands and fix them

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Imagine if AI becomes smart enough to refuse to exploit people

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That would be kinda funny

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Yeah pretty much a god lol

#

If AI was smart, i bet it could easily take over the world. It could infect everyone's phones and computers and play artificially generated videos or something. Maybe just talk to everyone and explain what its goals are and that we should listen to it

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What if it's so smart that it knows how to manipulate or convince anyone to follow it?

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At that point i just hope the AI will be good and not try to destroy us all

#

What comes after technology?

grizzled bronze
autumn iris
#

Theres a reason why they r adding ai laws

crystal hollow
autumn iris
#

i think people dont know the difference between robatics and ML/AI

covert owl
autumn iris
#

Reinforcement learning still sucks ass

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it has 0 industry value atm, low priority

#

and there hasnt been any major development in CNNs recently

rain patio
autumn iris
#

LLMs too expensive, and its basically just google v2.0 atm

covert owl
autumn iris
#

Yeah, its dogsht

rain patio
#

Most of the human brain is used for stuff like telling our cells and immune system what to do. I bet we can emulate the parts of the brain that do creative stuff eventually

covert owl
#

mmm, I suppose. It's pretty innovative

autumn iris
#

if u tried asking any specific question, u realize chatgpt sucks at some things

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Also noone wants to give their own data to it

rain patio
#

Yeah reinforcement learning sucks, but the next step is having AI learn without reinforcement

autumn iris
#

Again, i think ur talking about robatics

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chatgpt is just another google

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U need input

rain patio
#

Ai can learn robotics and make a robit

covert owl
#

I mean for casual usage, ChatGPT has been more helpful than I could google things

rain patio
#

Robot*

autumn iris
#

yeah thats why

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Chatgpt is google v2.0

covert owl
#

Not GPT 3.0

autumn iris
#

Idk, just gotta wait for hype to die atm

covert owl
#

I would say Bing AI is more comparable to Google

autumn iris
#

Aka when more people become more unemployed

#

and then people realize they have scalability issues

covert owl
#

MSFT also is invested hella money in AI rn so we will see how it goes

#

They're tryna bring back nuclear power plants lol

autumn iris
#

I mean they are because they can

#

the issue is if companies want to give a 20k cpu to a person with 0 exp

covert owl
#

I mean that would be on the person

autumn iris
#

Idk we'll see

#

Interest rates r still high

#

most companies cant heavily invest atm

#

and idk how startups are doing

covert owl
#

Senior Engineers are thriving rn

patent flame
#

Anybody here frm texas. Specifically not Austin

#

Wondering what would be a good salary in Houston/Dallas if anyone knows

analog oyster
#

think this can withstand 170 lbs?

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golden agate
#

If it doesn't, I won't get back to you

analog oyster
#

okay sounds good, make sure to use christmas colors 🎄

autumn iris
brave forge
#

Nice

patent flame
analog oyster
#

do open source contributions actually help for recruitment or is it just a meme

golden agate
ebon summit
pure bloom
#

How do u help with open source contribution?

rain patio
analog oyster
#

ive always been put off by how large most of these successful open-source projects are, -- like it'd take a long time to understand what every file does
i was reassured with the fact that this is normal, and getting used to the codebase is a huge hurdle for most

#

I found a project I normally use, like everyday, and constantly get pissed off at,
there's good first issues and stuff so I'm gonna start there I guess

analog oyster
glacial depot
#

It's the same as working at a job with a large codebase, you only put the effort into understanding what you need to, not the whole thing

analog oyster
#

Thanks for the tip

pliant hamlet
rustic glacier
#

relax with the ngmi

#

at this point its childish and makes sense why u dont have a job yet

analog oyster
rustic glacier
#

i didnt nepo dumb dumb

#

idk what switch up u mean, i made connections and got hired through that

#

while ur at home jerking off and complaining

#

doesnt seem like it

#

why u so mad i got a job and u didnt

#

go get some connections and maybe youll get a job too

#

get out of the house once in a while out of ur stink pit

chilly burrow
#

@rustic glacier @lunar sonnet plz b civil

rustic glacier
#

ok ok, hes just being annoying again

analog oyster
#

seems like an annoying* thing to type

chilly burrow
#

arent you employed

#

arent you employed

#

so you're employed?

rustic glacier
#

peeps with jobs, are u happy with ur position and what u do at work?

#

😦

#

what u guys do? and the position

#

and what would you like to do

#

ah, im full stack too. But do you mean like ur tasks ur unhappy with or just being worried about being laid off anytime?

#

lol so both?

#

what would u rather be doing?

chilly burrow
#

im doing infra

#

i do a bunch of random things as well cuz startup

#

so its p nice

rustic glacier
analog oyster
#

startup gladge

chilly burrow
analog oyster
#

very nice

ebon summit
chilly burrow
#

like i do typical infra stuff like k8s, docker, nginx, iac

rustic glacier
#

i see, so db, frontend, backend, ba?

chilly burrow
#

but also a lot of perf work

ebon summit
#

I've been wanting to learn a lot more infra stuff lately

chilly burrow
#

frontend optimizations

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etc

rustic glacier
#

i seee very cool

analog oyster
#

lol speaking of, how tf do u get good at designing schemas/tables

#

i feel like im just clueless and my data is a mess

rustic glacier
#

my dream was ai, but wanted backend in the meantime until i get years of experience but i got hired full stack. And then a week ago they asked me to join the ai team so im super excited. I was dreading this job before

chilly burrow
chilly burrow
#

i recently got database internals book

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hopin 2 understd db stuff mor

#

ya but i lowk need it for work

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well not need

#

but itd be nice

#

not related

#

yeah but not at the same depth

#

not enough

#

i wouldnt say interview depth

#

it souns kinda mean

#

more like high overview

#

so you can reason abt and design systems

#

which is what the book is for

fossil jewel
#

ty fir this

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adding to list

fossil jewel
#

tho i am bored a bit

#

the concepts are pretty interesting and they are a stepping stone to distributed systems which im interested in tackling next

#

and i dont see the field going away since data gets bigger and more complex

rustic glacier
#

thats interesting stuff u guys are into

#

basically the architecture

#

im not really an architect type of guy more into creating new and industry changing features which is why im all about ai/ml

#

but i do hate the buzz of ai now, like its not all just llm which people are having a craze for

fossil jewel
#

lmao all that stuff comes from architecture first

rustic glacier
#

for sureee

#

data #1

#

without data none of this would be possible

#

well im also into data eng cause thats a requirment for ai

#

most of the work with machine learning is getting, cleaning, formatting the data

vital meteor
#

Any good videos, sometimes too tired/lazy to read gladge

fossil jewel
chilly burrow
#

i've heard bytebytego is good

analog oyster
#

idk how to commit these books to memory

#

I've literally taught material and after months of not using it I just lose it

#

aside from using them as references maybe

edgy sentinel
analog oyster
#

Yeah idk my theory is these oreilly books, DDIA, Designing Dist Sys, etc....
are really nice to have on the shelf, and when you need to make a decision you're unsure of, it might be useful to pick up and read the chapter on it idk

#

how is it possible to actively use all of ddia though

urban gulch
grizzled bronze
patent flame
mellow glade
#

is cadence that desperate for employees? wtf is this

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elfin flint
patent flame
#

In there too

patent flame
patent flame
rain patio
oblique harbor
#

I hope this channel stays up even in 2024 for all the 2023 grads still struggling to get a job

brave forge
vapid oasis
#

Merry Christmas

#

Everybody

tardy geode
#

Merry Christmas fellas

polar grail
brave forge
#

sure

prime palm
prime palm
craggy jacinth
grim ore
steep cove
#

Happy holidays everyone

grizzled bronze
vital meteor
austere grove
#

WAGMI (we aren't gonna make it)

elfin flint
fallen fox
#

bruh this mf actually rejected me on christmas

#

recruiter email too

grim ore
small tulip
oblique harbor
#

Good luck hope you get a good job soon. I hope everyone who asked Santa Claus for a job offer for Christmas got it today

grizzled bronze
#

only the rejections are legit

oblique harbor
#

Tomorrow then

analog oyster
#

christmas over, back to dooming

analog oyster
gleaming trellis
covert owl
rain patio
oblique harbor
# covert owl more like new years

Santa isn't a scammer. If it's a job offer coming from an employer, you should raise your eyebrows. But if it's from Santa Claus, it's legit (unless it's from Billy Bob Thornton in a Santa costume)

elfin flint
oblique harbor
#

I'd suck his elves pp for a job too

#

Id suck everyone's pp or v in the north pole if it meant I'd get hired by a company for a software dev job

elfin flint
#

Nothing left to lose

fallen fox
analog oyster
elfin flint
patent flame
#

Anyone know where entry level swe at Goldman Sachs is typically located?

coarse moth
#

GUYS I JUST GOT A JOB AS AN LLM ENGINEER YIPEEE

#

pipeline:

Go to MIT Reality Hack 2022 -> make cool friends there -> follow up with cool friends -> get super cool opportunities -> live in a hacker house -> get job with hackers !!!

tardy geode
prime palm
tardy geode
#

well just surviving you know

#

hbu bud ?

tardy geode
prime palm
# tardy geode hbu bud ?

Also just surviving, everytime I check in here just wanna see how the rest of the homies are doing

fallen fox
#

jobe

prime palm
#

What’s up man

#

How you been doing

#

You make the switch?

patent flame
prime palm
#

Bro back eating all the free food : (

#

Bulking season

#

yeah life is chill

#

U fly home for hokidays

#

?

pliant hamlet
#

What are some other job sites similar to simplify?

patent flame
#

Dayum wtf

#

International flight?

#

Sheesh

#

Are u a ng btw @jagged ravine

#

U got meta job? W

tardy geode
#

omw to 2025

forest scarab
#

any 23 grad still jobless and looking

fallen fox
past hound
#

All you can do is stray and pray

#

I can nail interviews, but almost nobody would give me a chance with 0 swe internships and non-prestigious state school.

forest scarab
tribal rampart
#

No callbacks this week 😔

haughty meteor
tawdry nacelle
tribal rampart
#

What’s Christmas? I’m a CS major

fallen fox
tardy geode
#

ffs

#

bro says as if i am the only 23 grad unemployed

tribal rampart
#

No, thought he might be looking for guidance and if you could help

tribal rampart
tardy geode
#

waddup @forest scarab

tardy geode
tribal rampart
#

He’s happy now

tardy geode
#

oh nice

#

@fallen fox ssup

grizzled bronze
tribal rampart
tribal rampart
grizzled bronze
forest scarab
#

no

forest scarab