#2023_grads
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good thing I ghosted them first 
why do they ghost you lol, they send so much emails trying to get you to interview with them
and then when you do they ghost you
smh
same lmao
There is a video of the main architect of the react framework taking 5 mins to figure out how to center a div and failing a coding interview 🤣
goes to show how dumb CSS and HTML are smh
and javascript too
i hate them all
why can't we have one language for web dev smh
just dont do web dev wtf
web dev is wak
i'm fullstack so at least i can do some backend stuff
there is world outside CRUD 💀
idek what crud is
honestly i'm all over the place at my job lol. First they had me do frontend and then they had me do some backend stuff...and now I'm supposed to write automated tests using some in-house framework that's super buggy
ig ur learning a lot
link
Create Read Update Delete = CRUD
Who is hiring rn?
At least you got a SWE job lol
thats why i got into everywhere i interviewed with except stripe
im a leetcode monkey
Pretty much no one
got back together but still jobless 🥲
Hot
I'd rather have the job tbh 💀
both would be nice 😭
That fast? How?
we're just toxic ig
it won't last
being jobless
you'll find something
finding a job will always be priority
improve your skills and the rewards will flock to you like the salmon of Capistrano
why'd she break up with you in the first place?
Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well. Was wondering if you guys knew if we can use notes for the final exam?
no
unemployed
ask her if she is seeking any new grads with Python skills
Is she employed?
Has anyone here used one offer as leverage for other companies?
I have an offer with one company but the salary is not as high as I would have liked. I need to accept the offer by the end of this month. I am currently interviewing with two other companies. (Have recruiter emails for both companies.) From what I've read online, the other two companies will offer higher salaries for new grads.
I want to let both those companies know that I have an offer I need to respond to soon and that I would like to know if they are willing to move forward by the end of this month. Don't need an offer from them, just some verbal/email confirmation that the hiring process is moving forward. That way, I don't start the job at company 1 and then quit 2-3 months in if company 2 and 3 pull through with a better offer later on, effectively burning bridges with company 1.
Are there any downsides to asking the other two companies if they could maybe hurry up a bit and let me know if I'm moving forward or not by the end of this month because I have a pending offer? I don't want to put pressure on them but at the same time I don't want to be stuck with a low salary job at company 1 or burn bridges with company 1.
downside: they say good luck at your new job and terminate their process
Yea that's what I'm afraid of. I don't want them to do that.
I'll just follow-up gently and see if the other two companies have any updates for me, without mentioning I have a pending offer and need a response from them soon. I may need to burn bridges with company 1 (a very good company that I would prefer to have a relationship with), but it is what it is. sigh
I also don't want to turn down company 1 without any indication that I could get an offer from company 2 and 3 because the job market is so bad and I don't want to be unemployed as a college grad for much longer.
there is a recruiter involved. they haven't brought up if I have competing offers themselves. I'm hesitant to bring up my other offer myself because I don't want my current hiring processes with these companies to be terminated.
no job, she doesnt wanna see me until i get one
I was not given any official timeline, just a ballpark estimate. For one company, I only completed the OA and briefly spoke with someone working at that company. For the other company, I had a first round interview and was told the HM would contact me towards the end of this month or next month to move forward if they like me.
Bruh
Have some self respect
i have none 😔
at least show us a pic smh
If they don't want you at your lowest, they don't deserve you at your best.
How people react in the hard times tells you how they truly see you.
Get a job then dump her to the curb
Tell her "actually I think I can do better"
Leave her fully instead
Same
Homiiii, leave her!!!
Nah I got the OA only after I sucked my friend’s middle toe. He gave me referral after
u know its bad when u need a referral for an oa nowadays 💀
has any 2023 new grad landed a job yet?
no, not a single one
there has to be one
a lot of the same ppl that were active in this channel in the summer arent active anymore, wondering if they are the ones that got jobs or.... rip
yes
applied to a place that's behind my apartment 😂
Nope I haven’t landed anything yet. 😭😭😭😭

me
literally a shit load
am i the only one still jobless lol
I think I might know a 2023 NG that did 
Nah, you’re not. I’m also jobless
nah we all jobless
nice to hear we're not alone 😭
i have a dead-end part time that ends in 3 months
Boat is still there? 
are there any go-to advice for making job descriptions sound more impressive on resume? besides "use metrics"
Get an impressive job

yessir
Yeah I figured there were a lot of new grads here that got jobs, just wondering
True
Hopefully January has something fr us
@polar grail jobs for every1 january
does ur girlfriend have a job?
no
does she go to college?
does she exist
you'd be surprised, entitled people like that do exist
really frustrating being around them
also 🤢 I straight drank a bowl and half of chicken stock with some leeks and I'm gonna trow up
gonna work out tomorrow to burn off those calories
We got this bois. Don’t give up!
After my pltr OA today, if I don’t go thru, I’m officially out of interviews hehehehehehhe 🥲
Fine
What’s your bg
Any offer rn?
I want to know more about u
Ughhhh i want the break to last longer 😭
From "Squid on Strike"
That was me.
are they hiring new grads?
Yeah, I'm working 2 jobs
in big tech
FYI, startups are hiring
but the catch is they're like 60K :/
I don't need much I just need a job

Which are those
grocery stores seem to be hiring for the holiday season
ngl even those are getting competitive
was passed up for a retail job cus they filled up
idk maybe they thought i was overqualified
The less credentials you list the better for those 
tru
They just want someone they can exploit 
dont get caught 
^
r/overemployed
If anyone here has 3-5 years of experience in ML, let me know. I can refer you to my company. We have a position available.
what is with the requirement inflation 
3-5 years 😢 bro how do u expect ngs to have such exp
what kind of experience with ML tho?
data science, Data engineering or MLOps?
these are not interchangable and all 3 fall under ML
Ik dude :/ but I know some people here have a bit of experience
MLOps
the people who do have that experience
most likely needs sponsership
they prob worked at home country, and are currently doing a masters
its very common if ur planning on doing ML
Yeah the company offers sponsorship

meta? 
Interview is confiremed for Wednesday
Now I gotta just grind my interview prep
Hopefully this one goes well unlike last time
@tardy geode you might be interested in this
Good luck fam
the people who interviewed at forward and got to the technical, how hard were the technical questions you got? like lc levels
When did you graduate ( only for unemployed new grads ) ?
- May 2022
- December 2022
- May 2023
September 2023 (after taking a summer class)
ok weird question:
i graduated December 2022
tried applying for ~3 months, but uhh got hit with Big Depression
just starting to apply to stuff again after doing nothing for like 6 months
am i just fucked?

Just keep applying usually requirement is <1 YOE and/or grad date within 1 year so you have time
At a disadvantage? yes. fucked? not if you keep applying and frame your resume/cover letter well. I'm not sure if saying you had depression in your cover letter to explain the gap would be a good idea, but if you have some other valid reason that won't raise eyebrows, mention it. Also maybe list some online courses/projects you did in your cover letter so employers don't think you sat idle.
fuck what really?
oh wait i'm illiterate, what do you mean
oh no way in hell am i going to say "i am mentally ill" in any part of my application
Yea definitely don't do that. Come up with another reason for the gap in your resume.
i plan to say something like "i had a pile of savings (true) and wanted to travel (not strictly true)"
For new grad apps some will state you just need to have less than 1 YOE industry experience but some apps specify Grad date requirements and you are SOL if outside that window
extra weirdness: i'm MS grad with 2 years of non-cs engineering experience
That could work. If an interviewer asks, "where did you travel to?", you can reply, "My local shops and restaurants."
"i mostly went to the local insane asylum"
ok the actual problem is that i really did do nothing software related during my "break"
do i need to just pump out personal projects to make myself look productive?
I guess. or take some online coursera/udemy courses. You can also say you were a tutor for students at your university. Assuming you are a part of a discord server for your university, that's technically true since you could answer questions that CS students ask there, making you a tutor or mentor (unofficially).
ooo that's a great one
Can I apply to new grad roles if I graduated December 2022
Started full time swe in February
So u think before Feb i should be good?
depends on the company and job description. you can apply to new grad jobs and other entry level jobs just in case one doesn't work out
Gotcha will probably just mass apply
Was planning on waiting till January but might wanna start for new grad roles
What do u think?
same boat tbh
i feel like companies don't look at apps in december at all
- i'm mainly shooting for the ml/ds/ai moon, so i dont think i need to worry about the 1 year since grad thing, except that the gap is embarassing
Don’t worry about gap, lots of ppl on same boat especially now a days. You’ll be good
just say u had to focus on health or personal reasons if asked but I doubt they’ll even ask
Is 75 days good enough to get ead card if I applied today or do I get a premium?

another one <@&868936794601828492>
has anyone interviewed with Bloomberg this season got system design questions? or was it just OOD?
if i forgot to ask comp in recruiter call should i email or do they not like having that in writing 
is that after being extended an offer or initial call?
initial call
just dont think they pay very well based on glassdoor
not a huge deal probably wont email either just was hoping to get some idea of range 
you can ask, but be prepared for them to move on with candidates who might not ask 
yee, they seem like theyre moving quick so might not have to wait long either way
YCombinator and other VC websites have startups listed. There used to be a web crawler that found these sites but doesn't work anymore due to page changes
^ this
Anyone recently gotten a FT offer from Databricks?
whats FT
full-time
im thinking if i should apply to databricks NG SWE
is the job market still shit or is it getting better
from what i heard on this chat, it seems like most have hired for 2023
just apply to everything. youre not gauranteed the position
It's getting better. Next year things should be better
ye i just heard it takes a lot of time and tech inviews r p hard
LOL IK. i just thought it was hailarious
ye its def getting better. I honestly shouldve just stayed in school and did my masters 😦
agreed
not lmao
referals don't matter if you don't have the skills
even then none of my referals cam through
^^
but ye u gotta expand ur connection
to an extent
don't like go up to random strangers asking for referals
it can be annoying to them
just ask people you already know
You can. It's a skill to ask random people for referrals
yeah ig
This is biased from me being in NYC though
tbh I did ask a referal from some random person
but that person was a co worker of someone I knew
so he kinda was in my network
Apparently my fraternity brother is a CS manager at Meta... should i hit up?
we r an asian frat and apaprently our older brothers r hella stacked in tech field.
im wondering if someone like CS manager has much greater power in getting u a job than referral
couldn't hurt
tru at this point, i havve to use all the resource i have
i didnt say referral i said connection
??
your connection gives you a referal
which could get u an interview
nah referrals dont mean unless itys a smaller to mid tier company
get a connection who has some influence
i know a VP of a big insurance company, he's one of my connections
his referal didn't mean jack lmao
exactly, big company. Wont help cause referrals dont mean much
look for small-mid companies
ye too many people r giving out referrals now
yeah ig
exactly
ye ig smaller companies it can have more value
anyone have experience interviewing for spacex swe?
Where did you get the number 6000 from?
zucky whispered it into his ear last night
should i message several recruiters about the same role - anyone ever hear back from several and get in trouble?
you're not gonna get in trouble. but don't go forward with the process with multiple recruiters. if you have convos with 3 recruiters, and 1 adds you to an interview, tell the other 2. They will probably say congrats
not gonna be mad about it
kk ty makes sense
I'd apply unironically
$75k in this market is decent
just have to find cheap COL an hour away from NYC
share the link homie
link 
has anyone interviewed with Bloomberg
any job givers
link 
when most people don’t have jobs you take what you can get tbh
i have a friend with a 45k salary in nyc
Just finished an interview and I’m don’t feel too good about it. Will send a thank you note help me?
just do it
a thank you note is not gonna make you pass if you didn't do well in the interview
No, a thank you note is nice to send but I doubt it would actually help
It's important to always send a thank you message, and make it a habit to ask for feedback as well.
anyone else feeling like these recruiters are testing their patience
It will be alright! was it phone interview?
I have phone interview in 30 min gg
No, It was a technical coding interview.
lol this talking about swe. We can’t be comparing McDonald’s worker to swe
But lowkey I’m about to apply to mcD
fax, debating taking my food and bev exp from working part time in college to find a serving position until I can find a swe position
Sad reality
just sucks rn bc this is usually when corps are laying people off
gotta make payroll look smaller so shareholders are happy
whew phone screen went well luckily
moving to next round
just couple more round until I get fked at VO
this isn't 2020-2021 bro. Times have changed
Checks out
Did we pick wrong major ? 
skill issue on my side 

right major, horrifically wrong timing
i see like 13K+ postings on linkedin for "Software Engineer" (Past 24h)
which is after a longtime otherwise it used to be 3k,4k at the max
you interned at oracle, no skill issue 
it wasnt swe 
shark
I never sent anyone “thank you” after an interview. They either want to hire you or not.
^
i've stopped doing it
it doesn't really help and feels a bit desp
companies don't even have the courtesy to send u a noreply email instead of ghosting u, why should u take the high road?
obvi exceptions are there, like really small companies or niche roles etc
but anything so impersonal, i don't bother
nice, what company?
gl chief, although you already made it past the phone so I don't think you need it
nah after phone screen, it gets hard. tech interview should be mid. but i heard learning and decomp should be a bit difficult cuz kinda hard to prep for those
but i have some start up experience so hopefully that can help? maybe? lol idk
aight sending extra gl then so big mmoney can be made
thank you brother. i wish the best to you as well 🙂
any rope touchers
ye decomp is pseudocode system design. probs using data/sql shiz and then api design and then ask little questions about scale and shit like that i think
and learning is multithreading but i have no clue about multithreading 😦
thank you. I sent ya a dm for additonal question if ya chill with that!
did someone @ me here?
Bruh I got a call from Visa after the rejected me earlier but I missed it bc I was 🚽 and tried calling back after I was done and she sent me straight to voicemail
Am I rejected or not?
Also I know it’s the recruiter bc I tried calling back and the automated message was her saying her name from Visa
was it from a recruiter?
try leaving a voice mail to her
No the rejection was an auto “from the Visa hiring team” email
and emailing her
What's the recruiters email? Let me ask for you
Did both of those so ig we find out when she decides to respond back
reminds me i need to take a shit
Yw for your dump reminder
just saw a job posting on linkedin and applied. Got a response back in 6 minutes saying no LOL
Lol that was fast lol
its a record breaking time LOL i didnt know ATS were that fast
me: resume -> input
company: my resume -> trash
another +1 on my reject count hehehe
neetcode sama is kami
I did a Visa OA last year and then they were like ok we got your score and we’ll reach out with the next steps soon, then they were like they stopped hiring for that position. This year I applied for similar roles and got rejects lol
Not even sending those OA’s
I'm interviewing and the recruiter is asking me if I have any offer deadlines. I got delayed by Amazon until late February, do I be honest?
LOOOL
Amazon did say I can just let them know if I'm unable to commit to the new date at any point.
its not a deadline that impacts your current process so i wouldnt mention it
I have a Hirevue for Invesco can anyone help here ?
Is there anyone who completed their graduation in the summer of 2023, is an international student, and is currently in search of employment?
Good Morning everyone
- Thank you for your time and interest in the Software Engineer - New Grad role. Unfortunately, we will not be moving forward with your candidacy at this time. We received an unprecedented number of applications for our early talent programs this year, and have had a very competitive pool of candidates. *
Gotta love to wake up for these kind of emails
Oof L better go find someone and marry to for that green card 
when I see this in the morning. It changes my mood the whole freaking day
Yep

hello
Are you depressed and have anxiety
Htf are you living day to day
i am dead inside already tbh

idk if i should still hold on to hope
people said trust the process and all but seems like that ain't helping
Im not an international student but hello
i sometimes have no will to live anymore
🫂
My Amazon start date was delayed and I am interviewing at other companies. When asked if I have any offer deadlines/offers, should I disclose this?
Dijkstra’s algorithm in action lol
This would be a red flag for the reasons dingdong mentioned.
Yeah since you accepted and it's not an offer, you should definitely not disclose this. This may make you seem flaky when you already accepted an offer and about to start and you are still deciding whether or not to stay with them or go to another company. Their thought process will be, why should we give this guy an offer when we dont know if he will just accept it and bail immediately for another company
Bro same
When did you app?
Bro
mf pass technical interviews but can answer this question correctly 😂
Anybody interviewed for Meta NG? Would appreciate any insight!
average cscareersdev enjoyer
what do you mean? you got rejected bcuz of work assessment?
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
He’s saying that the other guy didn’t answer his question
oh ic. Sorry for misunderstanding
do u already have fanng internships/go to top 15 cs school? if not then you wont get it
It’s all good
I guess the market is picking up again
cause were damn expired goods
for new grads position
are there even new grad positions out since 2-3 months
last i saw a new grad position was in early sept
whut
damn
2 big name internships and some grinding cs school /s
damn hope that's how it goes
@fallen fox 

Had anyone given GEICO interview for SDE?
@past hound
its amazing how this economy fucked us so badly
read each "unfortunately" email carefully, one of them might be "unfortunately we couldn't find a better candidate, we would like to extend you an offer!" 
time to go the full time youtuber route and shill FAANG bootcamp courses 
What have you been doing all these months?
applying to 300+ jobs and just studying/practicing swe shit to have knowledge
ez gmail filter 👍
Thanks, now I have a ton of people messaging me lol.

turn off DMs for non friends
I don't mind people asking, but not a flood of people.
got an interview tomorrow for a data entry position. Is there anything that I should prep for asides from a behavioral?
its minimum wage and involves entering/validating data in a database
so I'm uncertain if anything beyond MS Office is required
Good opportunity to automate job with python 😂
also lol I'm gonna also one of those people in that flood rn lol
This data position isn't serious. Just something to do during winter break
practice typing on typeracer.com
"I'm an agile scrum kubernetes skibidi ohio rizzler!"
yeah, my quaint system supports fanum tax
I'm going to get a giant rabbit named skibidi
anyone know a resume i can look at with a certification section? Just need to see it for formatting purposes
also is a data entry job a good way to get your foot in the door for a real data science (maybe even ML) position? Or is it a waste of time
it's only good for if you're doing it to pay the bills
it's a client job too. so like getting paid 60% of your small hourly wage ($19)
has to be
indians
;-;
learning how to program a bot rn 👿
so basically its not that useful on a resume is what im getting 😔
i had some friends recommend that i work at a computer repair shop to show to employers that i havent been totally unproductive after graduating (i have been)
some work is better than no work
any tagentially related field is good enough to put on resume
and just do impressive personal projects
Only helps at a certain point. Contributing to open source projects or an internship is the only way in
Legit?
could be in stock
run away
actually nwm just read it
probably a scam
are you still in school/a new grad with low experience?
then definitely a scam lol
New grad at stripe/snowflake with faang exp
that's some good experience but i really doubt it's legit
their website is sketchy
if you do it give me your old job
did anyone get a second OA from goldman sachs ng 2024?
i applied 2 weeks ago, got the auto oa within 2 hours, it was basic oop + lc easy
those mfs sent me another oa today for the same role with 2x dps and i cant pass a single test case
Can anyone recommend best crash course for Distributed Systems ?
bytebytego
youtube channel
Can you please share the link ? Im not getting the exact naming
Covering topics and trends in large-scale system design, from the authors of the best-selling System Design Interview book series. This channel is managed by Alex Xu and Sahn Lam.
Subscribe to our weekly system design newsletter (10-min read): https://bit.ly/3tfAlYD
Take our system design online course: https://bit.ly/3mlDSk9
The one which has 47 videos that one ryt?
the one i shared says it has 70 videos
its very useful for system design interviews
ok thanks 😊
np
No response from mine yet. Submitted it on the 17th hbu?
submitted this sunday 26th. got a second oa today 
Were your questions about implementing friends/best friends class?
yeah that was the first one
And then the one with Euclidean distance with colors
Anyone here done distributed system? If so, do you know any discord or resource to ask question about it? (Self studying ds and looking for some guidance). Thanks 🙏
Is there a discord or a channel where I can discuss an implementation of a paper?
Thank you 
I am really grateful for the support I have received from this csCareers community. Thank you everyone 🙂
Did figma fill headcount?
Does “able to obtain work authorization in US in 2024” mean citizens/green card holders only?
I have H1B, will need transfer to my new company though
Applied 2 weeks ago, got rejected today
Same
Does anyone have experience interviewing with meta NG
Same just got rejected this morning
Yo guys any idea when 2023 May/June grads are no longer considered for "new grad" roles?
im a 2023 summer grad and it hasn't been a problem so far
no idea if there's a real cutoff but im assuming it'll be fine for at least another year
@mystic pollen same, but im thinking I might still need to be applying for 2025 grad positions.
all we can really do is pray things work out 😭
I think until next may or june
But if I took 1 year off cause depression and anxiety. Would that count that I'm still a new grad ?

Gotcha, so worse case scenario if im applying for 2025 new grad ill be good?
? why not?
its good.
You really think aw2 gonna win goty
no
reject from figma cuz headcount filled
figma seems so cool
sad beans 😢
does anyone have 100 comment karama on the reddit?
i want to post but i keep getting rejected lol
same
how do you know headcount got filled?
they emailed us:
normal rejection letters would omit the last sentence
are u guys reviewing stuff as u apply to jobs
like outside of leetcode, is there any material to relearn basic fundamentals
Yeah 100%
geeksforgeeks?
been 5 months and still can't find a job


im graduating in like 2-3weeks
just started to get serious about job hunting
3 months 
🙂ur still fresh good
aren't you still counting as 2024 grad ?
dunno
this summer
have u guys gotten any interviews
they got too many apps to even review them, "after reviewing your profile" is a lie, we never were reviewed 
all of my friends still can't find tech job
meh they just said what everyone already knows
hope she still has her job 
home depot sells ropes right ?
they sold out

I bought the last one
can you share ?


i hope ur grinding ur connections game
cause if ur focusing more on sending apps rather than networking u wont get far in this market
let’s trade
you want a DoD job? Idk if I can back out I submitted my forms for clearance already
i'm pretty sure you can still back out
unless you signed some kind of binding contract?
just call the president and see what he says 😂
did u apply to one of those government jobs
i see them plastered all over linkedin atm
yes!
like openings?
yeah
what does that mean lol
yeah it is
i havent bothered cause getting clearence + i feel like
u could pigeonhole urself
how was the process though
oh
were u already working
or ur new grad
yeah June 2023 new grad
so i interned at one of those places
2022 summer
im pretty sure most of it is consulting
aka u can get put on some random project
and also theres a sht ton of red tape
wait why u leave, i thought most dod are in person
oh
thats different
i think ur fine if its not contractor

do you have insight on dod?
wat about pay
plus a nicer city
current pay is higher..but benefits aren't as good as dod
idk dod is more secure
this
does ur current company know u sent in ur notice
if ur clearence is 2 months, that means u start in 2months?
oh
if u just got promoted then idk
oh
yeah sounds scuffed
idk u can back out and tell them that ur current company gave u X amount
my brain hurts
i dont think starting clearance matters
ur not employed by them right
yeah id just back out if u just got promoted
i doubt you'll get laid off anytime soon
its not a guaranteed promotion
oh
but they are talking about it

I can always apply later
what if I wrote a programming language...using python...
and then i used that programming language to write another one
lmao
I've been soloing queue since then

I have one interview in process. If this doesn’t work out, I’m out of interviews… the stress is immense 😦 I’m still applying but I’m just getting email that they r full
Is there anyone who are done with the GEICO interview?
Just wanted to know how the interview went
got done with the questionnaire, waiting on interview 
What kind of concerns do you all have when starting your first new grad job (other than getting a job in this economy)? going to do a write up of some of my takeaways over the last few years
anyone here interviewed with Lutron? I have an interview monday over video and was curious if this is behavioral or technical
tbh idk they existed till I applied
All the best…
Bloomberg or DRW? (London)
Yesterday I got an offer from Bloomberg, I have 2 weeks to sign, but I want to do it ASAP, 'cause my visa process may take a lot of time. However, just today DRW invited me to the first round, so I'm a little bit confused whether I should sign the Bloomberg offer rn or wait to see how things go with DRW. And what happens if I sign the Bloomberg offer, but later then sign the DRW offer and go there? Are there any legal or other consequences for violating the contract with Bloomberg?
Sign what you have first.. there's no guarantee you'll make it thru with DRW. Plus Bloomberg is a good place to work so not like you're signing your life away.
They can’t do much
Worst case they write a strongly worded letter to ur school but OPT (unlike CPT) isn’t tied to school
He's in London, visa and employment rules are probably different.
In USA most employments are at-will, so no legal consequences if you rescind except for temporary blacklisting(depends on company). Not sure about UK.
Oh that makes it more complicated yeah
Canonical offering 60k for full time software engineer 💀
Went through the process cause nothing else to do, 4 interviews later I get an email with a 60k offer
Been looking for months
I don’t think this is even liveable in cali
What to do
wtf
Yeah lol pissed me off
Minimum wage
“Because they hire in different countries and have to maintain pay scales” apparently
takes skills to even get an offer with canonical's bs process, you have good patience and perseverance
do they not allow remote?
I just took google meets when they scheduled it without any prep cause their process sucks
They’re fully remote
Im also international so
oh 60k remote is better than nothing for now
bruh what
ive got my 4th interview with them scheduled in a couple weeks 
Which role?
python eng
Me too but pro client one
dunno what that is lol
if its 60us in canada thats almost doable but if its 60cad i willnt be taking that
ya in cali thats insane
If he’s ready to pay 65k usd in India then it’s a different story
did u do 3x technical and then 1x hr / talent / people something idk
did they ask your salary expectations in the final one? thats on the list of things im supposed to prep
ya i got nothing else going on 
what were the 4 rounds like?
LC?
2 python deep dive, 2 more conversational in nature
Nope
oh
the tech rounds i did were a bit of a meme - just trivia basically which either you know or you dont (and i didnt know) and i still moved on
^
they doing h1 and all ?
not sure if they sponsor (🇨🇦
)
@fresh mango
Yeah they asked but I asked for the budget and how much can I expect he said am waiting for Hr
No clue
ah ok ya i was kinda planning on asking for the range
also how long between final interview and offer email
yeah the process is actually terrible so getting that offer is brutal
Who say $60K is min wage in California?
I mean ofc it’s not but for a software role? 😖
Comes out to like 24$/hour
My campus job paid around 21
Living in Chicago sucks. Weather sucks 😢
I mean I understand 60k is better than 0 and they can get me through my first opt year and even get me the stem extension, so I am inclined to nege for 70 and find a way until I can get something better, I want to get y’all’s opinion on this situation though
what is the hr interview like?
My hiring manager said that'll be my next interview
Just the regular like have you faced x problems, how do you deal with y kind of people thing
I see, makes sense
id take it just to have something - idk much about opt, does that stop you from reneging?
Not really, can just switch on opt, isn’t solid binding like an H1
right ya then something > nothing, but id keep applying
can try and nego based on COL but idk if theyll care
damn its raining rejects today
are you still looking for a role?
yeah sadly

i wouldnt expect this tho
like i would expect lowballs
eventually
like 50-60k offers in cali yknow
also even if you get into an interview loop theres no guarantee even if it goes perfect
before it went to this
i have heard stories where people aced all rounds then got ghosted or rejected
its so scary man
yeah ive heard people arent even making it past the phone calls lol
its like companies are toying with people on purpose
or practicing hr skills lmao
Got one recently lol
Does pay of a job affect future job pay and shit?
Yes and no.
Why yes tho?
There's usually correlation between high pay and resume value so going from faang to faang is easier vs WITCH to faang etc
True
You can absolutely jump from mid companies to top tier companies, but it takes time.
i would say no
recruiter said they'll get back to by today or early next week, apparently the hm is going to pick who to interview
if it's >24 hours after the screen, is it joever?
i think where you'd be impacted more is that they might pull some bullshit and say it was a small sized company when ur trying to transition into a mid sized/large sized company
Cousin works at big-tech says pay is always role based when switching, if you make the cut you make the cut, which is relieving to hear ngl but not sure with the market being so ass
i mean it depends on the role but for data engineering it def depends
they're going to look at how much data you've been working on and what tools youve been using
But if you get the interview I dont think it'll matter then cuz its just going to test ur knowledge on sql and python
i honestly think it'll only matter up to you getting the interview or not tbh
Yeah true
"passionate" 
@past hound for geico interview, did they allow choosing the programming language? is python an option?
Yes. I did all my stuff in psuedocode first and then python.
cool thanks
147 passionate applicants 
icims is worse than workday
Is this for entry level?
60k is better than 0k
im comfortable enough rn i dont need to take an offer immediately
but yes generally money > no money
not sure
I am so broke I cant even afford this
My last money

I have 0.99 cent in my back account rn
It's still on the way

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gonna be grinding this decemeber also , FML . last december was also grinding
2022 was cursed , 2023 also . don't want 2024 to be cursed as well
fk this shit
How long u been grinding LC?
Archived in the new year ?
looks like my AI prediction might be an underestimate 😳
AI is going to revolutionize the medical field and also genetics research omg
by the time i'm in my 40s or 50s, I wouldn't be surprised if we already found a cure for all known diseases as well as aging
i mean i grinded a lot until last month then i just stopped , pointless to do it
I doubt AI will help find a cure to Ligma or even DN 
Anyone done sys design interview at Walmart lately? Is it team specific
Why are companies not getting back after interviews? Each one is taking so long between rounds. Sometimes I hear back, sometimes I don’t. Should I count myself out?
you telling as if you have 0 offers 💀
You got an offer already lol
Walmart?
Still doesn’t change the current status of slow recruitment 🫠
Also LC at 2 am 🥱, guess I should sleep now
Wagmi
okay
you shouldn’t care about this if you already bagged something
unnecessary stress ain’t good lol
Yeah but all these companies are so slow
I did apple 4 weeks ago
coz you ain’t the first choice for them
It’s high time jeez
if you were they would have got back to you within a week
True 🥺
for a verbal offer atleast
i mean not downplaying you bro
but its sadly this shit market
tons of amazon peeps , laidoff plus those who just wanna gtfo amazon
I’m not sure about this, cause I’ve gotten offers 3-4 weeks after final
offers? you have more than 1 offer damnn

fr?
bro can you reroute one of em to me?
Everything taking so long
didn’t you take a follow up? or just waited 3-4 weeks?
or you took and they didn’t reply
Nah I never followed up
Cause I was doing other processes
I need to pass, and is my final Sem
If I don’t pass I’d be screwed
I just finished my course requirements like 1 week ago :0

surly Chase will respond to one of my apps right 😂
bro applied for SWE 1 2 and 3 
why apply to SWE I, II, and III?
They are all SWE II and III. Some just dont list the full title
I have almost 2
most of their 3 positions are asking for 3+
good thing ur not competing with 5+ YOE laid off engineers 
January 2024, mass layoffs
ewwwwwwww, means more hc for us
28 days until joever january
jobless january
@rain patio I sent you a DM regarding a process, if you can, I'd really appreciate if you can get back to me!
waz
up
waz

does any mid size company use a Django(Python Framework) backend ?
probably
i am exteremly good at it but i hardly see any mid size firms that require it 😭
startups do use it but then i am international which makes me get rejected
show off some projects
i'm afraid to go to developer conferences after hearin about the GHC fiasco
if under 99% of the guys at conferences shower regularly and wear deodorant, i ain't going
lol
How many times a week do you guys shower
Most dev events r not like that
That isn't really a dev conf anyway
It's a job fair
7 at least
The dev confs I've been to hav been fine
oh man i'm not going then lol
Whenever I go outside
all the literal sweats will be there...not the tryhard kind of sweats, but the sweaty stinky kind
Nah
It ain't bad
Srs question cause apparently showering too much is also bad due to drying out skin
You can use lotion for other parts of the body? 
nah this is a crazy statement
which sites are u guys getting the most responds from btw?
ripplematch
when did u graduate
2023
by responses i only mean i'm getting brennan hitting me up, nothing more than that

nah those are mostly in student ones
actual professional ones seem to be better
I'm holed up in my roon rn cus there are visitors in my house 🙃
anti social boi hours
brennan delsing is the only one hiring during holidays
also
gotta hop on the LLM hype

i am gonna make 3 LLM projects and put it in my resume
you aren't may 2023 grad maybe thats why











