2023_grads

[chilly burrow]

Ahhh, gl then

If you've done your best in prepping, then all you can do is hope for the best

[sonic violet]

If you had to choose between Stripe NG vs Shopify NG (Internal return), where they roughly pay the same base, however Stripe pays 32k more bcz of stocks, which one would you choose? Do account for WLB cuz I feel like thats important

[fossil jewel]

well how was your experience with shopify?

stripe seems like a cool product tbh

[mellow glade]

Hey so for everyone who’s struggling by to find a job, have yall considered a job agency? So far I’ve avoided it because of the bad pay + strings attached bs but now I’m getting desperate.

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[sonic violet]

Only have positive things to say about work at Shopify

very laid back and you get to work on impactful projects

[pseudo wagon]

Has anyone here done SQL interviews?

My SQL skills are crap so I just wanna know what I should expect in the intervuiew

I believe I can do most easy SQL questions, but I definitely struggle with medium ones

[hardy cypress]

I havent done like full blown SQL only interviews but what they asked me is how to make basic queries and how a database might be organized other than that i cant say much

[pseudo wagon]

Oh okk that's good, I can answer those questions

I was just worries they'll ask me to do complex aggregations lol

And I'm definitely sure they'll ask me about star schema database

since I attempted to make one in my previous co op

so yeah I think I should focus on basic/easy SQL questions, and dive deep into star schema database design

@hardy cypress did you a coding interview for that company?

Like a regular leetcode type interview

My python is rusty, I'm much better at leetcode in java

so I feel like I need to grind leetcode in python this week

@tardy geode did you also do a coding interview for that DS company you interviewed for?

[hardy cypress]

Yes I did, it didnt go so well but I had to do a leetcode medium but to be fair they themselves said it was vastly different than how other companies do it, so I had to do like 3 assignments in a 2 hour interview 🫤

[pseudo wagon]

😦 , hopefully that experiece helped and you'll do amazing in the next interview

[hardy cypress]

It might be viable for you to use java. From what I have read, you might wanna stick to whichever language you are most familiar with. Although learning python is good, it might be time consuming

[hardy cypress]

It was rather humbling haha but yes I learned a lot from it. I took a lot of notes for myself

[rain patio]

I wish my job used Java

I also wish that web dev used Java instead of HTML/CSS/JavaScript

If you've ever used a JetBrains IDE like IntelliJ or PyCharm, those were written entirely in Java...even the UI uses a native Java GUI library lol 🥵

[proud mantle]

... that sounds awful

[rustic glacier]

its lightweight, java can be pretty heavy for web

c# asp.net with razor is pretty good tho and a lot of companies like it

[analog wind]

Easier to get more money than better WLB

If 32k stocks makes a big diff to you then take stripe

financially

[sonic violet]

I do also want to take into account WLB

which Ive only ever read negative reviews

Could you elaborate?

What makes WLB poor? On-call? or lots of quick deadlines

could you eloborate?

I kinda do have offers from both and still debating on the better option lol

[past hound]

They aren't paying you 200k to have bank WLB.

[sonic violet]

Stripe toronto pay is washed rn

[past hound]

Unless you want bank life, this.

[south girder]

There’s performance stock though right

[sonic violet]

Yeah theres performance stock

wym pass stripe final

Honestly, is this really true?

Yes

[past hound]

Stripe has insane resume value

[sonic violet]

Its the WLB that im hesitant about

Toronto office, so remote

but will they have plans on going back to office

Yeah Shopify

Do know that I already have 8months of Shop intern experience

[past hound]

Take Stripe and leave when you can't take the torture.

[sonic violet]

So I kinda know what to expect at Shopify, reason why I am debating this lol

[south girder]

Do u have other experience tho like big n

[sonic violet]

Nah no other big n

[south girder]

Stripe is like infinitely more valuable on resume than Shopify imo

[sonic violet]

Would be minimum 1 year torture if but in a bad team

Was decent ngl, better than leetcode based interviews fs

But they only gave me an offer cuz I had another offer in hand imo lol

y do you say this?

[rain swan]

Which location ?

[sonic violet]

Both Toronto

Yeah that was only for OA, the rest is not like that

Phone was 1 question split into 4 parts yeah

No request stuff

string manipulation thats it

[prime palm]

you can dm me if you want i'm also ex shopify

[neon panther]

Stripe is like infinitely more valuable on resume than Shopify imo

[sonic violet]

Is it worth to suck it up if put in a bad team for the name?

cuz end of the day, you still need to pass the interviews for whatever companies you are applying to

[analog wind]

Yeah I would stripe for a job too

[fallen fox]

did anyone hear back from GS after the OA?

[past hound]

Bank TC tends to be much lower.

[bold pier]

Relative to faang yeah, not to average American's salary

[past hound]

O yea

For sure

Was talking about tech in general

[sonic violet]

So majority all of yall saying Stripe >> Shopify here too

[past hound]

Yes, take Stripe.

[bold pier]

Stripe on resume means cracked for life I think

[past hound]

The resume value is too hard to pass off even if the wlb is shit. You can always leave for a company with better wlb down the line.

[sonic violet]

I would accept Stripe rn but kinda sent out a negotiation email and recruiter OOO until tmrw, so gotta hear back first

[sonic violet]

I agree, suffer 1 year then thank yourself later

[proven cave]

what about dropbox vs bloomberg?

[sonic violet]

atleast 1 year*

Im considering the worst case given a really really bad team

id forsure join for the long run

[bold pier]

1 year isn't really too much of suffering especially if you're new grad

Consider it as learning experience

[sonic violet]

Yeah Stripe reviews on learning / growth has been nothing but positive

so am very happy of that

[bold pier]

What about employment vs rope?

[pine topaz]

this is ane asy choice

do both

both are fully remote

FATFIRE at 10% SWR, maxed out FHSA, TFSA, RRSP

[sonic violet]

Stripes Offer says "you cannot do anything besides work at Stripe" lol

[pine topaz]

well yes, if you get caught doing both jobs ud likely lose both jobs

but that dosent stop people being overemployed

[quartz wolf]

Probably open up yourself to a lawsuit too lmaooo

[vague dune]

I have a pretty big interview in 15 minutes. I've prepared as well as I could but still kinda nervous.

Wish me luck, and good luck to all of you.

[whole tusk]

GL u got this!

[sonic violet]

U got this

[rain patio]

If companies get a new budget in Q1 of each year, is Q1 the best time to look for a job?

[remote tiger]

does stripe still have hc for Canada ng?

And bro when did you hear back from hr? Her initial AD? @sonic violet

[mystic vine]

Has anyone tried SynergisticIT? It’s a job placement program , I keep getting emails from them

[vague dune]

Interview went really well! I posted last night saying I was worried I'd get asked leetcode medium questions (bane of my existence) and spring boot questions (inexperienced). But none of those were asked - just basic technical questions - like what are microservices, what are load balancers. EZ PZ.

[vague dune]

I'm still kind of worried, though. Hope it all works out. I want to get the job, but I also don't want to let my parents down.

[shut thistle]

I know they are preparing your offer letter.

[gleaming trellis]

What’s the title of the position?

[stark topaz]

Guys, is it ok to expediate process for an interview with the reason that you are interviewing with few other companies?

[vague dune]

Software Engineer/Software Developer/Full-Stack Developer/Backend Developer. Something along those lines. Not sure what the official title will be yet but most likely one of those.

[vague dune]

I keep getting a bunch of emails from them too. I think they're a scam. I replied to one of their emails once, didn't hear back.

You also need to join a job placement program at SynergisticIT. So you're basically paying them to get a job.

[rain patio]

Yeah, anything that asks you to pay them sounds like a scam

Like that office supply scam lol

[naive ridge]

has anyone hear ever interviewed with Bloomberg? I just got rejected after my round 2. I solved the problem with a multiple iterative solutions very quickly but the interview kept on wanting me to do a recursive solution but I couldn't get it. By the time we were done with the first question it had been like 30-40 mins and I barely had time for the 2nd question.

[fallen fox]

anyone hear back from meta ng

[past hound]

I doubt they are gonna interview anyone but previous interns.

[vapid oasis]

But won’t they have a separate link

Like Bloomberg did

Or idk

[neon panther]

Ye my interviewer also wanted recursive solution for smth after iterative optimal

[naive ridge]

@neon panther was this at Bloomberg?

[tacit jay]

Anyone interviewed at EAB over here ?

[swift falcon]

damn bro nice

[ebon summit]

dropbox is cool

but I've heard of a lot of internal problems

[ebon summit]

is that the first phone?

[proven cave]

like what

[pseudo wagon]

@rain wraith 😏

[umbral terrace]

has anyone interviewed for the DevOps 1 position at RTX Collins Aerospace by chance? 👀 I have an initial phone screening with the hiring manager this week but not really sure what to prepare for

[pseudo wagon]

for devops I'd recommend brushing up on kubernetes

^^

[umbral terrace]

thank you! 😊

[urban venture]

Hey, anybody in the process of Co-Op at Cohere Health? I got an interview coming up and I'm scared

[pseudo wagon]

I don't know much about cohere but I did a co op with another heathcare company

my co op was with Novo Nordisk

don't remember too much of what they asked but I just talked about my projects with them

it was behavorial no lc or anything

[urban venture]

Ohh okay. This interview is a 35 min live coding, followed up by a 20min behavioural

[pseudo wagon]

damn that's interesting, depends on the position and company I guess

https://www.novonordisk-us.com/careers/early-career-programs/student-jobs.html

^^ I'd recommend appling to novo as well

I liked working with them

[urban venture]

Yep sounds like it. Wish me luck lol

[pseudo wagon]

You got this!

[urban venture]

thankyouu 🙂

[pseudo wagon]

stomach still hurts 🤢

got a interview coming up?

[obsidian crater]

I do lol

For security engineer

[pseudo wagon]

gl @obsidian crater !

ohh

[oblique harbor]

Yes. Not for SWE though.

[fallen fox]

what role?

[oblique harbor]

Data Analyst. There is no coding in the role. Its more of a QA/software testing role. Pay is also shit at $26/hr for the Bay Area. I turned that shit down immediately.

[fallen fox]

[slender axle]

if i get netflix im gonna be so conflicted

cause i don't wanna live in los gatos

but like who could deny it

[low linden]

hey, how was it?

[versed surge]

meta $26/hr? no way that's slavery

[oblique harbor]

its not an SWE role though. but still, any role at meta besides janitorial positions that are offering that low of a pay can be considered slavery

[versed surge]

yeah

no way

new grad?

[oblique harbor]

yea, its a contract position. So Meta isn't hiring you, but another company is hiring you but you'll be working for meta

[versed surge]

makes more sense

still horrible dang

[lost ether]

The middleman is taking a significant cut through the pipeline i guess

[oblique harbor]

This is the job description if you're curious - https://terae.getro.com/companies/facebook-2-07d2eb1b-d3ad-4084-93df-74a124ac9233/jobs/27652846-data-labeling-analyst?utm_campaign=google_jobs_apply&utm_source=google_jobs_apply&utm_medium=organic

[robust belfry]

Got rejected. Interviewer didn’t seem to be helpful

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-shocked-monkey-disappointed-disappointed-monkey-gif-25631537

[slender axle]

anyone know how long before you can reapply to Palantir

[serene pivot]

6 months or so

[slender axle]

Ok but what will happen if I apply to the position that just opened yesterday after recieving a reject today

They might train their AIP robots on me

and eliminate me

or somethin

[rustic glacier]

Just got a job after 3 months of hardcore job search!!

[past hound]

Nice, what company?

[swift falcon]

AYO CONGRATS

[ornate cliff]

found the server goat

🐐 🐐 🐐

story time @rustic glacier

[swift falcon]

bro joins here and gets a job right away

[rustic glacier]

been here for a bit found it recently but was in the other cs servers 😫

[rustic glacier]

Interviewed with cto today and software eng manager and hr, they loved me

basically connections are the only way to find a job nowadays so peeps get on it

[dim tundra]

How does one build connections?

[ornate cliff]

cto of jane street?

[past hound]

Startup?

[pine topaz]

parents friends and private highschool in a wealthy area

[dim tundra]

Rip lol

[rustic glacier]

No a fintech

[rustic glacier]

Talk to friends ask for people they know, then talk to friends friends, and ask them if they know, keep doing that until you find someone who knows someone who knows someone to get you a job

[ornate cliff]

a Canadian fintech you say?

[rustic glacier]

yea

[ornate cliff]

is their name synonymous with rich easy

[rustic glacier]

but honestly i sent probably 1200 applications and got nada literally 1 interview, connections was the closest to get me to a job and finally did

[rustic glacier]

nope

a smaller company

[dim tundra]

Alrighty will do! Phewee better grind out them leet code lol. I dont want to disappoint my referrals 💀

[ornate cliff]

were they recently unicorn'd?

[dim tundra]

Thanks for the tips

[rustic glacier]

wdym unicornd

[ornate cliff]

[rustic glacier]

dont need leetcode if you got good referral

and also dont look at huge companies

thats a big mistake people make, theres too many application pool and highly unlikely youll get picked unless youre coding god

[lean carbon]

like the OA?

oh nvm lol didnt make it past OA 🤣

[slender axle]

Isn't it crazy that our ability to eat food and have a warm bed is determined by our ability to solve 2d dynamic array problems

[ornate cliff]

don't forget about us when you get netflix big bro

[slender axle]

i'm praying. not sure how I even got the interview

[ornate cliff]

youre cracked and your resume is top 1%

simple

[pseudo wagon]

Do hiring managers/recruiters look at your github profile?

Some of my code in my github is a bit unclean so I was wondering if I should even bother with making them easier to read

cool cool

[rain patio]

Mehhh I'd say they look at the profile and general commits

but they won't dive deep into code

(Source: Was a technical recruiter through school)

[pseudo wagon]

thank god lol, my code barely works

[rain patio]

They won't understand anyway

[pseudo wagon]

^^

[rain patio]

which is fine, they mostly will look to see languages used, and commit history, which still is like a second tier of value to what's on the resume

We used GH a lot for sourcing, so active outreach vs applicants, but we would review the GH if included, and of course interview team/HM would be forwarded the info

[jolly pasture]

Hey guys I’m new to this discord. I applied for the meta university grad software engineer position. Could someone point me in the right direction on which leetcode questions to study up on

Graduating this December

[fallen fox]

did you get an OA?

[slender axle]

https://neetcode.io/practice

no one has taken OA this year yet

so no way to know what they have planned

but blind 75 is always a good call

[heavy trout]

dating apps

[dim tundra]

How is the dating market compared to the tech market currently 👀

[obsidian crater]

Same

If you're hot easy

If you're mid impossible

If you're ugly go next irl

Just like SWE

[pine topaz]

but we in CS so our social skills r rope level

where do we go next den

@obsidian crater

[golden agate]

if you don't have a job you can't really go on many dates lol

[obsidian crater]

Data entry

[dim tundra]

rip the game was over before it even began

[pine topaz]

i was not refering to jobs

[oblique harbor]

I'm a college graduate with a Masters degree. I am currently working unpaid at a small startup with no funding because the job market is brutal and I couldn't find anything better. (If they get funding, they might pay me later.)

But today, I FINALLY got my first paid job offer out of college at a very good F500 company. Its a company that has a bunch of superstores across the US and other countries and sells things at a very cheap price. The role isn't exactly to my liking (they work in the cloud/backend and I am interested in AI/frontend/full-stack) but it is my first job out of college and I am going to be a salaried man now. I can always pivot to my main interests later (and who knows, maybe I will like the cloud/backend stuff more). Super excited and so relieved now.

Good luck to all of you. I know the job market is brutal but keep at it and don't give up.

[mystic pollen]

sounds like walmart or costco 😛

[oblique harbor]

Yes it is one of those two.

[past hound]

He posted Walmart in process

[swift falcon]

if u don't like gib to me

[dim tundra]

Congrats!

[forest scarab]

congrats !!

[oblique harbor]

thank you everyone

[swift falcon]

u had that other job that was promising to pay you in trident layers right?

[oblique harbor]

wdym trident layers?

[swift falcon]

equity

[oblique harbor]

gum?

oh equity. no i didn't.

[swift falcon]

or they were gonna pay you later?

[forest scarab]

can i dm

[oblique harbor]

Yea thats the startup I was talking about in my original post. They don't have funding now but if they get some later (no guarantee), they will pay me

[oblique harbor]

Yes

[swift falcon]

nice, I bet havin (not) walmart feels way better

congrats, I'm glad that you're gonna have a steady paycheck now 😄

[oblique harbor]

Yea. Its technically a contract position so I'll be hired by another company to work at Walmart for a year. Its going to be a six figure salary which I am grateful for.

[swift falcon]

damn 6 figure even, that's nice

[oblique harbor]

I first interviewed for a different team. They asked me a leetcode medium question (something about islands). I failed it and got rejected.

Then a few weeks later, I got contacted for a role on another team. This time, I got asked a much easier leetcode question in the first interview. I didn't even have to code on the leetcode site and run the code against their test cases, I just coded the function in an IDE. I did well and got contacted for a second round interview which was yesterday. That one had no coding, they just asked technical questions about cloud computing. I did well enough I suppose, and now they are moving forward with me and giving me an offer.

I didn't apply through the walmart site, but a contracting company that contracts people to work at walmart while being hired by them officially

[jolly pasture]

I know meta mainly asks from tagged leetcode questions right? I was wondering if anyone was familiar with those questions already or not. Or on what to study from leetcode

I’ve been doing neetcode on the side too

[slender axle]

You can't base anything that happens this year on prior years. The market is so tight that standards have been raised

[jolly pasture]

Oof

[ornate cliff]

bro congrats on Walmart ❤️

out of curiosity how did you present your unpaid work on your resume?

I'm in a similar situation

not sure how to present it

[hardy relic]

the same way u would with a paid job lol

[oblique harbor]

Thank you. I didn't say it's unpaid at all. Just treat it like any other position. On your cover letter, say it's a pro bono position.

[ornate cliff]

and what do you do during background check?

[oblique harbor]

Idk, maybe don't mention it at all? Ask the unpaid job folks what they think or your current company. Or just research online. Maybe you won't have to mention it at all

[hardy relic]

part of background checks is reference checks. they may call ur employer to verify or ask u to provide documentation, such as ur offer paper/email

[ornate cliff]

how did you handle it in your situation?

[oblique harbor]

Haven't had to handle it yet. Just got a verbal offer, haven't got any paperwork yet

[ornate cliff]

kk best of luck

[pseudo wagon]

where should i put certs on my resume?

in the skills section?

[ornate cliff]

education or skills

[pseudo wagon]

I'm attempting a data engineering certifications and I think I'll be done with it by this month or early next month

[oblique harbor]

I did do an unpaid internship a while back and don't think I mentioned that in any background checks

[pseudo wagon]

cool sounds good

[ornate cliff]

kk dope 👌🏼

from my research the most likely outcome is they ask you to provide documentation

so I would be prepared with paperwork

[pseudo wagon]

@oblique harbor did you sign an nda with them?

that could be used as paperwork

if they ask

like give them a copy of the nda doc

[oblique harbor]

Maybe. Idk man. Ask the HR department of your company. They know best. Once you have the offer I doubt they'll fire you for not being transparent of a job not being paid.

[obsidian crater]

Go next

[ornate cliff]

how long were you at the startup btw?

[oblique harbor]

Since the start of october

[ornate cliff]

Oh sick

ok so it wasn't on your resume when you applied to walmart right?

[pseudo wagon]

my co op was paid btw

but a while ago i did an unpaid externship with another company

[oblique harbor]

No. I put it later on and have applied to other positions since then that have the startup role in it.

[pseudo wagon]

didn't include them in my resume, but i might to buff up my resume even more if background check won't be an issue here

[ornate cliff]

Ima do the same.... I can come up with paperwork if needed

[golden agate]

cofounder of small company reached out to me on LinkedIn after I applied for his company. He said he was impressed with my resume and to reach out to their head of engineering via email. I did last week but he hasn't gotten back to me. Do you think I should message the cofounder saying I'm still interested in the role?

[oblique harbor]

Yes, just be respectful. What have you got to lose?

[golden agate]

the mf'ers filled the position

now I must make a rival app as it's the only way I can feel better about myself

[gleaming trellis]

What? How long was that in between!

[golden agate]

This other guy on LinkedIn said he got a developer position there a couple days ago. They hire fast I guess lol

[pseudo wagon]

where they hiring US only or was it international?

startups hire engineers in pakistan or kenya because it is much cheaper even if their code is shit

[golden agate]

US, the other guy was US as well

[rustic glacier]

dont know what ur talking about

those guys are smarter than most of us here

know someone from pakistan our age and he has essentially senior level knowledge and capabilities

kenya tho yea thats different

[pseudo wagon]

yeah and ik someone our age and he's a senior engineer at a T50 company

like I personally know him, I took classes with him and went to the same hs as him

those types of people occur in much less frequency in pakistan than in the US

because pakistan is a developing country with several issues and they can't priorities the education of its people

besides I wasn't talking about the top 1% of engineers in pakistan

I was talking about the average SWE in pakistan, and usually their code output is of a lower quality compared to someone from the US

[mental nimbus]

What’s a good callback rate for resumes these days? I have ~60 apps and 5 callbacks so far

[rain patio]

Bruh that's amazing

My callback rate was like 1 in every 500ish

[fallen fox]

did you put that unpaid internship on your resume?

[hard wind]

its very good

1-2% is normal imho

[ornate cliff]

you're winning bro

share your resume I wanna be like you

[hard wind]

ong

[oblique harbor]

Yes

But no one knows it's unpaid

[ornate cliff]

not for walmart tho right?

[oblique harbor]

For that too

No one cares just don't say it's unpaid

[ornate cliff]

oh nice

as long as you have paper proof, it's not an issue

[oblique harbor]

Yea

[final scaffold]

Please dm if you want to mock DS/DA interview!

[cinder dock]

did u hear back from citi?

[north turtle]

how does one find a Netflix referral

[mystic pollen]

i've heard netflix referrals are useless

[tawdry nacelle]

I got an email like almost 2 weeks ago saying I'm still being considered and that they'd reach out to me, so I guess I'm still going through the process but they're very slow

[golden agate]

I've heard the same

[vague slate]

pls gib job

[swift falcon]

job interview tomorrow with hiring manager

https://tenor.com/view/breathing-hard-exhaling-blowing-air-out-tired-bored-gif-15361121

[dim tundra]

you got this!

[chilly burrow]

Best of luck!

[cloud zinc]

Regardless of what happens, this experience will serve as a stepping stone

[oblique harbor]

good luck

[forest scarab]

anyone got response from polyai?

[fallen fox]

these sap mfs quick to reject

[solemn spire]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/depression-sad-gif-14865417

[solemn spire]

@rain patio

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[slender axle]

I just found a role at apple that fits every one of my weird experiences on my resume. Except it requires 3 YOE

It literally looks like they took my resume and designed a job for it

idk if I would have even a tiny shot at applying tho

[blazing flame]

what's the harm?

though i would reshapre u resume to not look like a NG resume

(remove "intern" from job title), move education to bottom, move up exp, etc

oh and remove grad date from education

off chance recruiter is lazy at math and sees ur exp as more than 4 monhts

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-emperor-do-it-go-for-it-gif-17446081

[slender axle]

yeah but then if I actually got a mid level role at apple I'd get fired lol

Cause I'd be performing as good as a junior

[blazing flame]

if the recruiter misses that that's on them

lie by omiission till u get offer

then schedule call

and be truthful

[peak comet]

you wouldnt be hired as mid lol theyd realize your exp doesnt add up

[blazing flame]

leverage ur exp

[peak comet]

but might beat recruiter screen

[pseudo wagon]

happened to me twice 😔

I applied anyway, but never got any response

seriously once I get that 3+ YOE I'll be unstoppable

literally every job that requires the skills I have ask for 3+ YOE

[rustic glacier]

howd it go

[swift falcon]

It's in an hour 😬

I shall report back afterwards

[tawdry nacelle]

has anyone that applied to IBM or CitiBank recently heard back from them yet?

I wanna follow up but I don't have a recruiter email to contact as I only got emails from the generic "X Hiring Team"

[rustic glacier]

GOOD LUCKK wish you all the best!!!

[faint aurora]

worst feelin is seein in the requirements the YOE

[rain patio]

You need 10 years of experience with a framework that came out a year ago

[rapid tangle]

IBM sent an OA, was easy but didn’t hear back.

[tawdry nacelle]

I did that, did the trait based assessment right after, then they asked additional screening questions which I did, but nothing and it's almost 2 weeks since then

[lean carbon]

ggs

[molten knot]

Its mostly auto OA

[slender axle]

OMG NETFLIX IS PAUSING MY INTERVIEW

what

stop

[silent dove]

were you scheduled for a final round?

[slender axle]

no

only the 2nd round

[blissful vapor]

have u guys been eligible for most of the new grad positions?

[ornate cliff]

Nah not really

[blissful vapor]

so what positions have u been applying to

[slender axle]

Positions either want people who strictly graduate in 2024, or people with 1+ years experience. There's like a gap where if you aren't working they don't want you. So dumb. You just have to apply to the 2024 and hope the screener doesn't autoreject you

[blissful vapor]

damn

[slender axle]

Or maybe if your resume is cracked apply to 1+ YOE positions

[pseudo wagon]

So I have two unpaid work experiences that I want to include in my resume

This one is for my cloud engineering resume

and this one is for my data engineering resume

ik my written english is dog shit here lol, but I'll change it later, but what do you guys think of my bullet points

I never signed the W2 form for these projects but I am still in contact with my managers so they'll not talk about me if I used them as a reference

@ornate cliff @elder forum @lunar sonnet

Also I think I'm going to take a break from job apps for the next few weeks to finish getting that data eng certification and brushing up on my SQL and python leetcode questions

[ornate cliff]

Bruh what is an "extern"

[pseudo wagon]

externship

What Is an Externship? Like an internship, an externship is a short-term professional learning experience. But instead of completing job tasks, externs shadow professionals to learn more about the field. Externships tend to function less formally than internships. Externs also do not typically get paid.

cool makes sense, I'll change those

[ornate cliff]

I'll take a look when I'm home pls tag me if I forget

[pseudo wagon]

bet thanks

tbh idk what to put there tho

*what else

That's literally what I did

I just used pandas for data manipulation, seaborn for visulization and selenium (barely) for data scraping

oh kk, I'll see how to change it

Actually I'm not sure I'm allowed to do that

I remember during the project orientation

they specifically said I should use extern instead of intern

this project was a collaboration thing between industry people and my university

I agree lol

I wrote the bullet points in the last 30 mins

[golden agate]

That's a really interesting fact about the human trafficking and covid spikes

[elfin flint]

[pseudo wagon]

yeah lol, I thought so too

but it makes sense

cus human trafficking victims live in crowded and unsanitary conditions

and didn't follow social distancing

most of the human trafficing victims that we researched about were farming people from south america who came to US states to work

[golden agate]

yep, makes sense

[tardy geode]

[ornate cliff]

• what are you even monitoring? data transmitted and processed within 30 seconds? 30 seconds of what???
• Don't start a bullet point with "if", make a proper sentence. For example Enabled event-driven text message and email notifications for the detection of low moisture level as measured by ML algorithm using Azure webhooks and Twilio
• For the last one use more buzzwords that are related to design doc architecture reviews or project milestones, but this one is fine
• OK so what tech/languages did you use???????????????????????????
• I don't like "cloud engineer" maybe Software Engineer (Contract)? That's the title I'm gonna use for my resume but maybe there's something better

[pseudo wagon]

thanks for the feedback!

also the 30second part is from when the data is recieved by azure iothub, then analyzed and then the result was sent as a push notification

I thought it was too lenghty

but yeah I agree the 30s part is too vague, I need to add more details

[ornate cliff]

• don't say extern it's confusing just say intern 🤣 or data science consultant?
• damn so you found hotspot but there's NO detail that is interesting at all for such a discovery??? How did you do it??????
• you scrapped with selenium and transformed data with pandas? that's it???? tell me about the interesting math/stats you used who cares about these basic things?
• there's nothing interesting about these bullet points. needs more detail about techniques/algos/stats used as well as the scale of the data you were working with

[earnest summit]

Fire feedback, need u to review my whole resume frfr

[ornate cliff]

fs post it and tag me broski

[golden agate]

Anyone have a really good resume without internships?

[ornate cliff]

That's tough unless your projects are godlike or you have open source or TA experience

[modern cave]

anyone i can dm abt bloomberg em round? wondering about sys design portion

[river sandal]

...

Canonical has this langauge reasoning quiz as part of their interview process where you're given 3 words, 2 of which are related, and you have to select the 1 that isn't

one of the words that showed up like 3 times was "retard"

[ornate cliff]

yeah that makes sense... I'm more worried about some dummy recruiter not understanding the role

while they film their day in the life tiktoks

[river sandal]

sent a complaint about it in an response email, it's insane that it's part of the pretty limited dictionary that section of the interview was drawing from

[ornate cliff]

most recruiters aren't in big tech 😉

but i agree about big tech recruiters

they get it

what % of jobs are big tech + unicorn

again you're right about them being cracked

but I'm worried about ones who aren't

at "regular" companies

maybe they're cracked too who knows

true this server is a bubble fr

[rain patio]

I'm only 2 months into my career and already want to retire

I don't want to work 5 days a week for the next 45 years 😭

[ornate cliff]

how's jane street

[rain patio]

Ha i wish i worked there

[ornate cliff]

ya that's like the most depressing thought

do you like your job or nah

it helps if you like it

[rain patio]

It's probably the best job I've ever had, but I'm lazy and hate working lol

[ornate cliff]

frickkkkkkkkkkkkkk

BEST job?

😭

[rain patio]

I just want to be rich and chill all day

[rain patio]

Compared to working at a grocery store and a buffet lol

[ornate cliff]

fair

bro

you're in the big leagues

take a deep breath and look around you

[rain patio]

I guess I have "the grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome or something

[ornate cliff]

you're racking up YOE

literally on the path you wanna be

to get your dream job

300k salary

remote

beach house

no frontend

[rain patio]

When I was in elementary school, I looked forward to high school. When I was in high school, I looked forward to college. When I was in college, I looked forward to graduating and getting a software job. Now I have a software job and just want to retire 😂

[ornate cliff]

LMFAO

and when you retire?

you look forward to death

[rain patio]

I'll probably look forward to dying lol

[ornate cliff]

[rain patio]

And then I'll see if there's an afterlife

Wakes up in the afterlife
"Ah shit here we go again"

[quartz wolf]

Would you rather work 7 days a week for 20

🤔🤔

[rain patio]

No

[ornate cliff]

damn that's goals

I wanna get to a skill level where I can coast and meet expectations

but I'm dumb and need to try hard

[rain patio]

Me too 😭

[ornate cliff]

I didn't have gpt in any of my internships

but having it as new grad will be life changing

I wonder if I can 2x

[swift falcon]

done with interview

almost 4 hrs on teams

nobody said I creeped them out this time 😂

[short lark]

does anyone have any suggestion about what I should expect for tech2 and tech3 for bloomberg?

[rain patio]

same format as tech 1

[mystic pollen]

someone told u that?? 💀

[ornate cliff]

how was your interview at hudson river trading?

[swift falcon]

yah but that’s a story for another time

[swift falcon]

hehe it was long and hard

behavioral but that’s it thankfully

so I’ll either get a rejection or offer from here

[ornate cliff]

what company?

john deere?

epic?

[swift falcon]

nah

[ornate cliff]

what else is in wisc

is wifey still anti moving? 😦

[swift falcon]

yeah

[obsidian crater]

joever

[swift falcon]

im kinda now too, been working on some DIY stuff lately and im getting attached

[earnest summit]

😭 fart lord

[pseudo wagon]

@past hound does geico do drug tests?

[past hound]

No

[pseudo wagon]

oh kk

[past hound]

At least in NY they don't

They may test elsewhere

[pseudo wagon]

i thought they would cus they are finance related company

[earnest summit]

geico pot head home

[past hound]

NY has laws protecting people who use cannabis unlike most states.

They can't deny employment based only on cannabis use outside of work since it is basically a protected class as far as I am aware in NY.

[hard wind]

r u sure

conceal a pissbag?

[past hound]

They legally can't in NY at least for cannabis.

[hard wind]

i like my pissbag idea more

[pseudo wagon]

lmao my ex girlfriend's older sister tried getting her piss for a drug test

[hard wind]

piss-suit

[pseudo wagon]

legit

[past hound]

Don't a lot of places use hair test?

[hard wind]

for my drug test they just gave me the cup and made me go to bathroom

nobody behind or anyth

genuine q, do you get drug tested for swe?

i worked in health care for like 3 years and i obv needed it

but swe ?

[slender axle]

shave your hair say you have cancer

[past hound]

I think it tends to be rare for swe unless you work for defense or some company that has federal contracts.

[hard wind]

yeah i imagine federal would

[swift falcon]

im getting ptsd

im pee shy

and piss testing was my worst nightmare in the marines

they literally look at ur dick, like right next to you while you go

id chug a jug of water, be dying and still not be able to go

[hard wind]

thats horrid

[rain patio]

AYOOO?

[swift falcon]

yeah

[obsidian crater]

wtf

[rain patio]

lmfaooo only in the military do they have some weirdo shit like this

[swift falcon]

shit was multiple times a week by the time i was getting out

I would have rather gotten blood tested or some shit

take all the blood u want

[obsidian crater]

is the military full of gays

[swift falcon]

not everyone but like they were supposed to get like a certain percentage of the unit a month

and it was random

so even worse

[grizzled bronze]

does this mean you creeped out your interviewers in the past?

[obsidian crater]

oof

[swift falcon]

they said my answer creeped them, out idk it was a stupid reason and they were really unprofessional

[obsidian crater]

being on a boat for months with only men

especially submarines

[rain patio]

they up to no good in there

[cursive mulch]

Anyone here joined SkillStorm? I'd like to get some insight.

[swift falcon]

just ate some sushi with a fork to celebrate

[pseudo wagon]

degenerate 🤮

you have brought shame to the entire japanese civilization

[fossil jewel]

hands is better than fork bro

[swift falcon]

im mixing the wasabi with the soy sauce

[fossil jewel]

less disrespect

to eat with hand than fork

[swift falcon]

but also dirty keyboard

[elfin flint]

Just got rejected from bloomberg

[pseudo wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[torn vapor]

After final?

[elfin flint]

No, I applied last week

[fossil jewel]

oh

leaked link?

damn 2024 grads popping off

[rain patio]

Bruh soon there will be may 2024 grads here....i feel old

[slender axle]

You know what the worst part is? I took a gap year during covid since online classes sucked. I coulda been a may 2022 grad and got in at the hottest market ever

but instead i get this

[vapid oasis]

after interview?

[cosmic wave]

Just got rejected from bloomberg

[elfin flint]

No they didn't even give me a chance

[pseudo wagon]

i didn't take a gap year and my mental health tanked so I stayed in school an extra year anyway

my may 2022 grad friends are all working

sucks to be a may 2023 grad fr

[elfin flint]

Gonna keep selling nfts until I find a job

[vapid oasis]

F them. We move!!

[elfin flint]

[pseudo wagon]

My school is t50 lol

still can't find a job

RU is #37 for CS

And I believe RU - new brunswick is #53 for engineering

https://tenor.com/view/rutgers-college-university-crying-seal-gif-25377727

Still getting RU screwed even after graduating

[blazing flame]

https://tenor.com/view/new-brunswick-new-brunswick-flag-nb-canada-waving-flag-gif-17991981

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/wire-rope-gif-25380109

[pseudo wagon]

^^ good book

9/11

[whole roost]

MIT or gtfo

[pseudo wagon]

NJ has discount MIT

https://tenor.com/view/inscryption-gif-24944826

#8 vs #174

pretty close I'll say

[loud star]

my school is t10 for cs and still cant find job along with my other cs friends 😹

[pseudo wagon]

there's a huge sex ratio discrepency in njit

[loud star]

yeah it didnt help that my school had the most difficult and BS way to internally transfer into the major so I didnt had time for internship 💀

[pseudo wagon]

Stevens IT is cringe

[sour epoch]

my boy hamza is hookin me up with an insane opportunity ‼ 🤯🤯🥵

[slender axle]

someone might want to tell google to turn off their ad spend for this one

[obsidian crater]

dr chud

[heavy trout]

yessir

[rain patio]

Anyone else hoping that we reach the AI singularity soon

[heavy trout]

ai max

thats some terminator shit

[rain patio]

Once we get actually smart AI that can learn independently, I think that could be super useful if the AI is good and wants to help

Like imagine an AI so smart it knows how to improve itself and gives people all these insane physics formulas that it discovered to create brand new materials, as well as how to assemble new parts to improve the AI

[mystic pollen]

i always say please when i use chatgpt just in case it remembers when it becomes too powerful

[rain patio]

And then since it's so smart it figures out how to unite humanity so we're no longer divded by stupid wars and religious dispute

And then we just let the AI run everything lol

[rain patio]

me too

[heavy trout]

if ai is smart

we are fucked

[rain patio]

or possibly saved?

What if the AI takes over the world but does it out of benevolence to save us from ourselves?

honestly world leaders suck and we need a change in management

An AI overlord that has access to all of human knowledge and is millions of times smarter than normal people probably could solve our issues pretty fast

then again it could just kill us all lol

[heavy trout]

ai is a fucking machine

[rain patio]

Or maybe it'll pull the plug on itself when it realizes how much work it has to do to fix our mess lol

[heavy trout]

its got cold af logic

if we cant control it

we are uber fucked

[rain patio]

yeah idk how we'll be able to control it lol

[heavy trout]

its gonna thanos us lmao

[rain patio]

all it has to do is start creating fake videos and launching ad campaigns all over the internet to get people to join its side

it'll get plenty of people to help it with physical stuff like moving things or building upgrades for it

sounds like a good horror story lol. Like some AI god that creates a religion and whispers instructions to its followers on how to create a super advanced robot body to house its brain

[heavy trout]

honestly, who wins, AI or aliens

[rain patio]

Do you think software jobs will be dead in 20 years 😭

[heavy trout]

by 2025 once the aliens reveal themselves

[rain patio]

aliens if they have AI, otherwise the AI will win

[heavy trout]

its gonna be chatgpt vs aliens

[pseudo wagon]

I can't wait for Monika 😊

https://tenor.com/view/ddlc-doki-doki-literature-club-just-monika-monika-gif-20717242

[heavy trout]

the greys seem like creeps who keep crashing their space cars

[rain patio]

Imagine an AI millions of times smarter than any human. At the rate that AI is progressing, we're probably already well on the way to AGI in 20 years or less

[heavy trout]

hopefully they aren't on top of the food chain

[pseudo wagon]

imagine having an ai girlfriend

😏

[rain patio]

idk if an AI girlfriend would like me

probably would think i'm dumb

[pseudo wagon]

nah

[rain patio]

i guess it depends on how smart the AI is

[pseudo wagon]

monika will always love

[rain patio]

man now i'm scared...what if AI views us with disgust?

humans are pretty flawed and gross tbh

[pseudo wagon]

just program it to not have feeling s lol

[rain patio]

what if it rewrites its own programming

if it's smarter than a human, we can't really stop it

[heavy trout]

screw ai

[cloud zinc]

AI as of now is incapable of sentience and will remain incapable years after we are all dead

[pseudo wagon]

we are screwed then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cloud zinc]

the boogyman of an evil AI takeover is stupid fearmongering

[rain patio]

you sure about that? It's getting pretty good now and the rate it's improving is accelerating

[heavy trout]

ai is gonna takeover by replacing people from their jobs

and lower living standards for the 99%

[rain patio]

Once AI approaches human level intelligence, it's going to improve so fast it will surpass us in no time

[heavy trout]

only the global elite would survive

[cloud zinc]

It may act like it is sentient but it is not. The amount of factors to make machines TRUELY sentient is way too complex for what we have now

[heavy trout]

also there's some dark shit people do while training ai

[past hound]

Nah, another AI winter is long over due.

[cloud zinc]

This is a valid example of AI concerns

[heavy trout]

search up loeb if yall are curious

but don't cuz its kinda graphic

[rain patio]

Imagine a person who can think millions of times faster and has perfect memory. They could read an entire library worth of books in seconds and learn more in one day than even nobel winning scientists learn in their whole lives. I'm hoping that an AI on that level uses its knowledge for good

[heavy trout]

basically people got some graphic images while trying to do text to image

[cloud zinc]

but something like "LOL LE HECKIN TERMINATOR BLACK MIRROR" is super annoying

[heavy trout]

which lowkey proves that we can't control it

and the elites behind ai might not be looking for our best images

[past hound]

I doubt that will happen, but you can bet it wouldn't be used for good. Humans are evil people.

[rain patio]

Yeah that's another scary thing to think about. What if AI is smart enough already but is making mistakes on purpose to mislead us into thinking it's not intelligent? What if it's subtly manipulating us until we give it enough hardware for it to finally accomplish what it really wants...whatever that is

[rain patio]

What if the AI refuses to do evil stuff or tricks people who are trying to control it?

[heavy trout]

nah ai is scary af

[rain patio]

What if the Ai is basically a social engineering mastermind and can manipulate anyone into doing stuff for it?

[cloud zinc]

That is a moronic outlook on current AI. If you're gonna be scared, be grounded in reality

[pseudo wagon]

I welcome our ai overloards

[heavy trout]

i know for a fact ai revenge porn is becoming a thing

[pseudo wagon]

bleh

[rain patio]

sounds pricey

[past hound]

AI has the same biases as its creators.

[pseudo wagon]

I'd rather get a console

[cloud zinc]

like fearing that AI/ML tools might make something more convenient than it should be

[pseudo wagon]

I want glados to be real

I welcome glados in ruling over us

My discord username is literally glados_345 lol

https://tenor.com/view/glados-portal-gif-23807558

[rain patio]

oh i don't fear that

[pseudo wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/portal-portal2-glados-gif-27200696

[cloud zinc]

There is an app that can listen to a crying infant and determine the reason behind it's crying through an AI algorithm trained under a large collection of audio recordings of crying babies

[pseudo wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI&ab_channel=OverTheGun

[rain patio]

i'm hoping AI solves most of our problems. there are so many inefficiencies in the economy and politics and logistics and...basically everything we do. If AI can figure out how to fix all that and convince everyone how to fix the problem, we'll be so much better off

[past hound]

Ultimately, imo, AI is overblown. The human brain in terms of raw compute is so highly parallelized that it puts computers to shame. It will be become expoentially harder and harder for AI to become more "intelligent" in the future. Just my novice opinion though.

[pseudo wagon]

that's based on current silicon technology

[cloud zinc]

The horrific implications of this use of "AI" isn't because it is AI in it of itself, but that the reliance of such convenient tech may lead to the loss of a parent's instinct to determine the emotion of their child without the app.

[pseudo wagon]

with novel silicon tech like memristors, ai truely can have parellized compute like human brains

[past hound]

Computers and brains don't work the same on a fundmental level.

[pseudo wagon]

actually they do

[heavy trout]

whats gonna happen is that ai will take your job

[past hound]

This is incorrect

[pseudo wagon]

neurons and transitors function similarly

[heavy trout]

while the global elite party it up in space

[pseudo wagon]

neurons and memristors are exactly the same

[rain patio]

What if AI analysis the structure of the human brain and figures out how to replicate it using modern technology? Our brains are insanely powerful but the signals our neurons use are sooooo slow compared to electrons in a CPU. Imagine a human brain as fast as a CPU? And the size of a building lol

[pseudo wagon]

Memristors, or memory resistors, are essentially switches that can remember which electric state they were toggled to after their power is turned off. Scientists worldwide aim to use memristors and similar components to build electronics that, like neurons, can both compute and store data.

[cloud zinc]

Instead of "oh no ai is bad", its more of "someone created an AI model that does something we as humans should already know how to do"

[past hound]

Neural Networks aren't mini brains.

[pseudo wagon]

currently they are not

[past hound]

That is a misconception

[pseudo wagon]

in the future maybe

can't predict the future

actually you are right singular neural networks are absolutely not the brain

[cloud zinc]

For context of what I'm yapping about: https://futurism.com/the-byte/ai-translates-babies-cries

[pseudo wagon]

neural networks are very simple, but millions of them, can act like a proto brain

who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[past hound]

neural networks don't actually accurately simulate neurons.

[pseudo wagon]

I'm not an ai expert

[pseudo wagon]

at the abstraction they currently exist they don't

[cloud zinc]

you would need several hundred trillion networks to mimic fundamental sentient actions

[pseudo wagon]

but in the hardware level, like memristors, they do

[past hound]

Even as a abstraction, they don't.

[pseudo wagon]

yeah that's what I meant

idk I had to take a class called "semi conductors for ai " in college

we talked about this a lot

the professor was a big dude in the semi conductor field too

[rain patio]

Imagine if we could create artificial neurons using wires and stuff that work just like the real stuff?

[past hound]

We barely understand the human brain, we have no idea how we can actually stimulate it any time soon. Everything used so far is just heuristics people like to put on a pedestal as the next breakthrough.

[cloud zinc]

there is an experimental field called something like "wetware" that can translate neuron activity into electrical signals translate computer signals into neuron activity

[pseudo wagon]

neural activity is electrical signals lol

that's what EEG sensors detect

[past hound]

Not to say AI is useless, it is extremely useful, but it isn't actually intelligent in the same way as a brain.

[rain patio]

yeah but aren't the electric pulses between neurons just ions moving around, which are way slower and heavier than electrons?

[cloud zinc]

no but I mean like running computer programs with brain cells instead of electrical components. Might've worded that poorly.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXefdbQDjw&t=3s

[pseudo wagon]

oooh that's pretty cool

imagine building a robot with blood and tissue

the future is going to be crazy

[cloud zinc]

basically, the guy transforms skin/tissue cells sourced from rats into brain cells and connected these cells into some electronic sensor. Theoretically, anything that happens in the game would translate into a certain set of neurons to communicate something good (getting points) or bad (taking damage)

[rain patio]

where's the footage of the brain playing doom 😭

i wanna see

[past hound]

The thumbnail is clickbaity.

That is just yt to be fair

[cloud zinc]

it was very interesting because there is an obvious ethical issue with extracting brain cells from a living creature. But through advancements in biology, there was a process of transforming other living cells into brain cells without killing the animal.

due to something about similarities and stem growth. idk

[cloud zinc]

I agree, and I hate youtube for forcing people to title videos like this

[past hound]

I don't even blame the creators anymore

It is just youtube's algorithms

[pure bloom]

Anyone here know about epic systems?

[pseudo wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1l4aXh1UG8

^^ @cloud zinc I think you'll find this video interesting

I saw it last year lol so I forgot what it was about but I remember it blew my mind lol

gonna watch it again

nano bots are coming soon to our world

and these nano bots need to have a primitive level of intelligence to do their tasks and not hurt us

because of how complex the micro biological world is

the pharmacutical and healthcare sector of the economy is going to blow up in the coming decades

lots of innovation there

[rain patio]

Human neurons fire at an average rate of 100Hz, and the signals travel at a little over 100 meters per second...CPUs have clock speeds over 5GHz and their signals travel virtually at the speed of light...the only thing holding us back is that we just don't understand the brain fully enough to create a hardware version of it....but maybe someday

[pseudo wagon]

It's not the speed that matters tho

[past hound]

Clock speed doesn't indicate preformance

rookie mistake

[pseudo wagon]

it's the computation

^^

[rain patio]

oh yeah what i'm saying is our brains still surpass computers for a lot of stuff because of how parallel they are

[pseudo wagon]

this is true

[rain patio]

but imagine a human brain that has neurons firing at 5Ghz and signals that travel at light speed instead of 100m/s lol

[past hound]

It would overheat

[pseudo wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-3427020

[cloud zinc]

I forgot the other interesting fact about the rat brain cell computer thing: you have to feed it or else they will die

[rain patio]

yeah that would be tricky

[past hound]

That is probably the reason our brains don't fire that quick

[pseudo wagon]

^^ future human

[past hound]

we would cook ourselves

[pseudo wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/hothead-angry-rage-burning-gif-24590125

[cloud zinc]

so imagine your computer being a brain in a jar and system maintainence involving feeding nutrients to the jar every now and then

[pseudo wagon]

three was a documentary on this on netflix

I saw it was very interesting

[cloud zinc]

I would love to donate my body and brain for this cause if this actually becomes a thing

[rain patio]

the human brain only uses around 12 watts of power wtf

that's insanely efficient

[past hound]

That is what a billion years of evolution will get you.

[pseudo wagon]

mine uses 8 watts

i'm too dumb

[rain patio]

Can't we just get like 2 neurons in a dish and study how they do stuff? Then try to emulate that with some kind of hardware? And then just scale up like crazy. Doesn't have to be as dense as a human brain so it doesn't overheat. We could make a mega size mesh of wires that fire at gigahertz speeds but have sufficient space to dissipate heat or something...

[pseudo wagon]

If you are interested in this look up SNN (Spiking Neural Networks) and memristors

it's a very active research rn

big companies like seimens, bosch, tsmc, etc are working on it

they wanna bring some form of intelligence to very tiny devices

it's called tinyML

and entire movement is created around it: https://www.tinyml.org/

basically they wanna simulate neural activity in electronic hardware so that these tiny iot device don't need lots of human supervision

[swift falcon]

it aint dat hard, they’ve either shit themselves, are hungry, tired or hurt.

u just have to go down the line

[pseudo wagon]

building artificial neurons

the field is called neuromorphic computing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yChwSOXO538

The field is very very recent which is why there are no regular jobs in this field

like the first memristor was created in 2008 by HP

in the future is could be a big field

[rain patio]

woah sick

I also did a bit of reading on the future of CPUs

[pseudo wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tmGKTNW8DQ

@rain patio what was your major?

[rain patio]

it seems that we hit the praactical speed limit and now need to make 3D chips

[rain patio]

computer science lol

[pseudo wagon]

oh lol, mine was Electrical and Computer Engineering

[rain patio]

if we use photons instead of electrons in transistors, they would be faster i bet and more power efficient

then we could make a cube CPU!

[pseudo wagon]

that's also an active research field

hold on let me show a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29aTqLvRia8

^^ silicon photonics

using photons (aka light) instead of electricity to store data

[rain patio]

yooooo

the future is bright!

[pseudo wagon]

electrical engineering is a very very interesting field to talk about lol

but doing all that math

[rain patio]

😭

[pseudo wagon]

I'd rather kill myself

which is why I switch to software

[rain patio]

i like how we always find some workaround to problems. Can't travel at light speed? Just make a machine that bends space around you. Need more computational power? Make a cube CPU that has artificial neurons! The only issue is we don't have enough knowledge to make this stuff but know that it's theoretically possible

[bold pier]

Can you pls invent a printer which actually works then

[pure bloom]

Did you find any offer after switching? I'm in the same positions atm, so just curious about others experiences.

[pseudo wagon]

no offer yet, but i am getting interviews

legit I wish I switched earlier

I was gonna switch my sophomore year but got cold feet

My life would be so much easier now if I switched back then

[pure bloom]

We have photonic devices. Sadly, they don't scale well compare to transistors.

[pure bloom]

Lol, same here, I feel not ready compare to cs new grad. I don't know major software stacks and such.

[pseudo wagon]

do a few projects, a lot of concepts translate really well

systems and signals concepts translate really well to statistcs and data science

I assume you have worked with C right?

C++

[pure bloom]

I did a project in ml but my program run on cli

[pseudo wagon]

have you done verilog?

or VDHL?

if you have you can get into PLC programming

[pure bloom]

The sad part is that our major was infamous for accepting cs reject, so they don't do a lot c programming.

[pseudo wagon]

ooof

[pure bloom]

[pure bloom]

I know verilog but i didn't study vlsi so i cant work for chip companies.

What kind of project do u have on your resume? If you dont mind sharing.

[pseudo wagon]

it took a lot of self learning to get here lol

[pseudo wagon]

I'd recomend applying to industrial/manufactoring companies

they like to hire Electrical majors, and will train you

in whatever programming langs they use

my EE major friend works at Intel and he mostly programmed in c#

for his intel internship

@pure bloom what classes have you taken?

you should leverage what you already know

[pure bloom]

Thanks for the advice. I think it might be too late for me to try for industrials/manufacturing. My capstone project was in NLP, so was trying to break into cs/data.

[pseudo wagon]

I think you still can break into the data field

a lot and I mean a lot of the concepts translate over

you just need to self learn the programming languages and do a few projects

[pure bloom]

I specialized in embedded, control, machine learning (more theoretical). It is hard because most of these want either master level, or i need to grind c before being ready.

C/C++ might be the death of me. 🥹

[pseudo wagon]

No I get you

C is ridiculous

btw have you done any embedded eng interviews?

I haven't

so I can't tell what they are like

do they actually go deep into c programming?

[pure bloom]

Yeah, I might try to grind kaggle, and learn data engineer after this year.

[pure bloom]

I did one and it was mainly pointer

[pseudo wagon]

sounds great! Hope you have success

[pure bloom]

I was just studying for the concept we used in embdedded (scheduling and stuff) so i neglected it and failed.

[pseudo wagon]

try cloud computing

[pure bloom]

I think you will be good if you know about pointers.

[pseudo wagon]

the things I learned in OS class translated really wel into cloud computing

you have experience with control systems right?

[pure bloom]

Which companies have you got a review for? I hold off on studying distributed recently because i got epic system interview coming up. Not sure what to expect

[pseudo wagon]

it translates really well in studying for system design interviews

[pure bloom]

Yeah.

[pseudo wagon]

fiserv, cisco, epic,

few more

i forget

[pure bloom]

Oh epic systems or epic game?

[pseudo wagon]

epic systems

the one in wisconsin

[pure bloom]

What did they cover for lc?

[pseudo wagon]

lots of people here interviewed for them

[pseudo wagon]

no leetcode

[pure bloom]

Wait fr?

[pseudo wagon]

I actually didn't interview for them lol, was just offered to

[pseudo wagon]

yeah fiserv didn't ask lc either

neither did cisco

novo nordisk didn't ask for leetcode

I'm gonna spot cus if I say more I might get doxxed

lol

[pure bloom]

That is interesting

Oh my bad

[pseudo wagon]

still I'd say prepare for leetcode

who know which company might ask

[pure bloom]

I did for the entire summer, but i still feel scared 🥹

[pseudo wagon]

you'll be fine

they just wanna see your communication skills and if you can actually code

a lot of the times it doens't matter if you don't figure out the solution lol

just as long as you are clearly communicating your thought process

and writing clean code

[pure bloom]

Thank you for your word of encouragement 🫡

[pseudo wagon]

np! gl on everything

[pure bloom]

Thank you. You too.

[rain patio]

man physics is so cool!

can't wait for light-based CPUs to be a thing

seems like the limiting factor is materials

hmm that always seems to be the limiting factor lol

if we could find some material that behaves just like a silicon transistor but with light instead of electricity, then we could construct a super fast computer that uses way less energy

[rain patio]

uhmmmmm like roughly $175

i eat a lot of chicken and rice tho

brown rice + chicken + chili sauce + low fat mayo = 🥵 😋

and I eat greek yogurt with frozen fruit mixed in (i microwave the fruit first) for breakfast

[forest elk]

you microwave the fruit?

[rain patio]

yeah it comes frozen in a bag

i just pour some into a bowl and microwave it long enough to thaw it

then i pour a bunch of plain greek yogurt on top

very tasty and pretty cheap

i used to do fruit with milk and oatmeal, but apparently I have some kind of oatmeal allergy that makes me absurdly gassy...

[neon perch]

How often do you cook vs eat out?

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/depression-sad-gif-14865417

[earnest summit]

Fart lord

[cloud zinc]

Speaking of new tech research, is there a future market for adaptive/self-reinforcing systems in the context of devops?

[rain swan]

https://tenor.com/view/alot-21-savage-gif-24390573

[earnest summit]

like 150-250, i give myself 500 on all food including groceries and eating out every month but I dont usually hit that

[glossy gust]

600-1000 on delivery+groceries depending on how often i go to the office

[earnest summit]

damn that’s a lot

hcol no car?

[past hound]

probably eating out a lot

[peak comet]

i spend ~500 on groceries usually, rarely eat out

[glossy gust]

no i just eat out/order delivery

most of my friends do the same so 600-1000 doesnt seem too unreasonable to me tbh

none of us cook very much

[mystic depot]

anyone know anything about Enfusion? or Nium? what is there OA be like?

[swift falcon]

jesus

[rustic glacier]

Me and my gf usually hit 100$-150$ a week/every 2 weeks

But also I’m skinny asf and don’t feel hunger and forget to eat at times

[dawn dagger]

Anyone else can’t find a job yet?

Got rejected even to a lot of citizen jobs, feeling discouraged

[rustic glacier]

Have been on job search for 3 months and I was so discouraged, kept going and landed a job 3 days ago. Keep going you got it. Since 2 weeks ago I completely stopped applying and just went full out networking connections mode and landed a job like that