2023_grads

[past hound]

Live chated twice

[swift falcon]

id be like bring out the whole mf ocean

[past hound]

They eventually gave up after the last time I said I don't have documents I never received.

[swift falcon]

gimme ur manager

and managers manager

[past hound]

I think people said here before that they probably wouldn't care

[pseudo wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4Jy1Vuib4&ab_channel=BrianCache

[swift falcon]

what if you got some kind of letter from your internship?

[past hound]

It does note in my report what I said to the live chat people.

[pseudo wagon]

bruh I specialized in the two most in demand fields: devops and data engineering

[past hound]

Nope. Got it through family. I was in high school at the time.

[pseudo wagon]

and I still am barely getting any response

shit sucks

[swift falcon]

so it’s a high school internship!?

[past hound]

High school internship I needed to do

[pseudo wagon]

@past hound did you go to a magnet school?

[swift falcon]

weird

[pseudo wagon]

cus regular hs don't require internships to graduate, at least mine didn't

[past hound]

Nope. I did electrical and computer technology at a trade school along side school because my tiny ass rural school didn't offer a AP CS course.

[pseudo wagon]

ohh

makes sense

[past hound]

I got credit at my high school for doing it

I didn't like it because it had no coding and was more for becoming a electricial technician, but it was better than nothing.

[pseudo wagon]

ngl if I could I would become an HVAC technician in this market

but oh well

[past hound]

So yea, the position in question is irrelevant

[pseudo wagon]

just gotta grind

[past hound]

Which I hope they also agree

[pseudo wagon]

yeah for sure they'll overlook it

[past hound]

Only included it on my resume to fill space lol

[pseudo wagon]

hs is so long ago

it shouldn't matter at all

[past hound]

Yea, they didn't even talk about it during my interview

They also wanted to talk about my TA stuff and projects

So, I think they will agree.

[swift falcon]

how far from high school are you?

[past hound]

But, you never know

[past hound]

Over 4 years

[pseudo wagon]

lol same

college took me 5 years

cus of the pandemic

[past hound]

I already graduated college with my BS like 5 months ago

[swift falcon]

jesus it’s been like 15 years for me 💀

[past hound]

💀damn

[pseudo wagon]

wait how old are you @swift falcon

[swift falcon]

32

[past hound]

yea, I did the traditional 4 years right after hs.

[swift falcon]

even 4 years seems like they shouldn’t care tho

[past hound]

I could have done a bs/ms in 5, but didn't see the point. Seemed like CS masters only programs were only there to milk international students.

[swift falcon]

those are a scam with the time too

at least the one I was doing before I transferred it was like, you had to make sure to take summer classes

and if you got off the schedule you were fricked

[past hound]

Nah, cs/ms at my school isn't too bad. 132ish credits total.

[swift falcon]

they have you start taking MS classes before you graduate with BS right?

[past hound]

Almost all 400 classes at my school are crosslisted or whatever it is called where undergraduates and graduates take the same exact course.

If you do bs/ms, you just take the graduate version, which only differs in that you may have some extra problems in your hw and you may have a harder curve.

Sometimes it is exactly the same everything

[elfin flint]

[swift falcon]

yeah dis is what it was like for us

[elfin flint]

Bruh I saw most the jobs that I applied need front end, back end or full stack. So I started my projects and web dev

[slender axle]

i got tiktok OA and it expires in less than 24 hours from when the sent the email 💀

do they assume we don't have lives or what

[elfin flint]

should I focus on Data Science or Web dev ?

I think data Science really tough if I don't have master degree in stats

[slender axle]

wouldn't be surprised. Honestly I'm only applying to tiktok in the delusional hope that I also get an offer from meta or netflix and I can use it to negotiate

[vapid oasis]

Why delusional? U got this

I don’t even think I’m gonna get past the resume screen

Fr meta

Lol

No internships 😢

[slender axle]

in this market it just seems like a moonshot. I know I'm good enough for these companies it's just that I don't even know if they will actually hire people. Meta probably won't make offers until it gets it's new budget in january 2024, so not even recruiters know how many people they will hire yet

and also i just got netflix oa today somehow

[tardy geode]

what company is doing the background check?

[past hound]

HireRight

[tardy geode]

lol i thought they did only criminal checks

[past hound]

Nah, they even checked my credit report.

Only issue was that bullshit with the internship

[tardy geode]

i don't think it would matter if the HM wants you they want you doesn't matter

bg checks are ass

unless you were found guilty of some felony or criminal charges

[past hound]

criminial report is clean.

[tardy geode]

my friend wrote in one his experience software engineer as the job title but in reality he was a software engineer trainee

[past hound]

Never even got a parking ticket

[tardy geode]

did hireright ask you to upload resume and shit ?

[past hound]

No

I would assume most companies crosscheck though

[slender axle]

this is a crazy career path. how do you go from creating flyers in Canva to being a software engineer at apple with no credentials?

[past hound]

2021 tech hiring be like:

[earnest summit]

McDonald’s cashier to CEO pipeline 😌

[slender axle]

I feel like name prestige is so crazy in how we perceive people. Would you rather contract an Ex-Apple Engineer (mid level) or an Ex-McDonalds Engineer (Director of Engineering)

honestly i think the guy who made the ios share button more laggy would still get the job

[neon perch]

Yo are you the dude from YouTube?

[digital wing]

Anyone got TikTok next round after OA?

[steep cove]

Ye

[neon perch]

Broooo sup

Loved your Netflix video

[steep cove]

Thanks bro I appreciate that I hope yall don’t experience that

[lean carbon]

when did u get OA

mine still says resume screening

[digital wing]

Last week

[lean carbon]

oh i see

[slender axle]

i got mine yesterday but the email says i got it monday and it's due today

so... gonna wing it

[digital wing]

I don't think tiktok is going to respond after the OA anyway lol

[lean carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-wtf-what-huh-shocked-gif-17215720

[grave drum]

That, mixed into mock technicals. So I'll have some older friends of mine who have interviewed applicants for their respective companies, interview me in the same style that I will be interviewed in coming up: 1 LC medium mostly in 45 min

[solemn spire]

What the phuwac its already November 10th

[swift falcon]

bruh remember when we was talkin about september surge

[rain swan]

They do lol

[rain swan]

Yeah. September surge ||my ass||

[swift falcon]

Got an actual interview on the books for next wednesday though!

same company from career fair/wednesday phone screen

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-rope-loop-gif-25246066

[urban flicker]

did anyone hear anything about affirm today? I think ive been ghosted

[fallen fox]

got a rejection yesterday

[urban flicker]

ah unfortunate but they atleast got back to you

[fallen fox]

[grizzled bronze]

got two rejections yesterday, beat that

[gleaming trellis]

Was this after a phone screen or actual interview?

[fallen fox]

resume reject

[slender axle]

What are the downsides of applying to a role that requires 1+ years of experience with only 6 months experience and 2 internships?

Should i just send it? Its google

so i don't want to get blacklisted or something

[rain swan]

you are currently working ft ?

[slender axle]

i don't wanna post my company, but its a big one without name prestige

[earnest summit]

No downside other than cooldown and time for you

Upside you get the job

[lean carbon]

just do it

[slender axle]

yeah but what if they post new grad roles in january or something

then I'm cooling down

and miss out

[lean carbon]

why wont u be able to apply to the new grad if it comes out in jan?

[earnest summit]

I don’t think cooldown applies if you don’t get to the interview stage

You should look into that

[rain swan]

wait, ng comes out in jan ?

[lean carbon]

not sure its just a speculation

also this is from google @earnest summit

[rain swan]

this is when you re-apply for the same posting

[lean carbon]

oh bruh nvm then lol

does google have a record of ghosting?

[rain swan]

yeah

[lean carbon]

😭

[slender axle]

They have a record of giving people offers but then not assigning them to a team for over a year

[lean carbon]

dam

[plain goblet]

does anyone have that tech graph of the job market rn

[lean carbon]

how will one ever get a promotion then?

[rain swan]

there is no graph

[slender axle]

haha worse, you aren't working until you get a team. so you just wait for a year with no job

[rain swan]

graphs dead

[lean carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-22886423

[fallen fox]

fake?

https://www.ktvu.com/news/more-tech-job-layoffs-announced-at-google-amazon-and-snap

[lean carbon]

honestly i wont be suprised if its real

cause tbh i pretty sure most people get into MAANG only to leave a year after so they can make their resumes more valuable

MAANG is not great for job security at all

[elfin flint]

How tf I can get a job with this market

I think I should start applying to McDonald

[lean carbon]

bro have been applying to McDonalds.

except i was rejected there too lol

[elfin flint]

[past hound]

Background check passed lets go

[sturdy aurora]

Any international students here ever got an offer?

[rain swan]

some got ig

[gleaming trellis]

They’re real

[past hound]

For context, I was dealing with the background check company's bullshit, so I am happy it all went through ok.

I am "all set to hire" now according to them

[rain patio]

I want to get a giant rabbit so i can forget about my problems

[past hound]

Also a chinchilla?

[rain patio]

Chinchillas are cute, but they seem so fragile 😭

Hmm i could get a pet goose lol. They apparently live up to 30 years when tsken care of, and you can train thdm. They need diapers tho

[heavy trout]

get a skink tbh

they live forever

https://tenor.com/view/jinny-jinnytty-lizard-animal-gif-21516244

[past hound]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-honk-inhale-inhales-untitled-gif-16237480

[heavy trout]

geese are scary

[past hound]

My college had a sizable geese population that would go around the university shitting everywhere.

I guess that is what you get when you build a university right next to a pond in a wetland area.

[rain patio]

Lol there's a big pond by my work, and it's always full of ducks and geese

They're super loud and have battles and stuff

I think the geese are winning

[past hound]

People like to meme about it, but they are pretty tame. Leave them alone, and they wouldn't fuck with you.

[rain patio]

I wish they didn't attack when I get close 😭

I wanna pick one up

[past hound]

To be fair, these geese have gone through generations and generations of being in direct like feet away contact with students for their entire lives.

[rain patio]

I once approached a goose that was farther away from the rest of the group, and it saw me and then walked over to the rest of the geese. Then they all turned around and walked towards me while hissing 😭

[past hound]

Remember someone posting in our school's subreddit a video of them petting them

The geese tamer

[fallen fox]

[gloomy terrace]

Google laying off yay

[pseudo wagon]

I received an email about an initial phone interview and I said I'm down for it later today

But now looked at the email it wasn't a recruiter it was literally the CEO 💀

Man I hope I make a good impression, this is a remote position

[slender axle]

Have you guys been getting contacted by New York high schools who want CS Teachers?

[hard wind]

nonstop

[slender axle]

They pay 35k lol IDK how they think anyone will apply

[grave drum]

35k in NY lol

[pseudo wagon]

^^ might as well work for a scammy startup for 35k

[slender axle]

If you're that bad that you would accept 35k, how are you going to teach CS

[pseudo wagon]

at least you have the chance of working remote

[slender axle]

no i doubt it

[hard wind]

true

[slender axle]

you're gonna be in a high school that starts at 7:30

in person

[hard wind]

then again im considering working at the dollar tree

nothing more motivating than hating your work

[slender axle]

because if you have skill then you can get a job paying 200k. why would anyone take 35k job

you'll be living in poverty

and its new york city

literally homeless

[pseudo wagon]

vast majority of new grads are not getting payed 200k lol

[hard wind]

it doesn't make much sense to me bc teaching cs is not easy and you need to be quite good at it to teach it lol

[pseudo wagon]

only like one guy in this server is getting paid that much

from jane street

[grave drum]

teachers in general just don't make a lot

35k is low even for teachers at public schools

[hard wind]

yeah is it really 35k? it's like 55k normally no?

i remmeber literally asking my hs teachers in nyc how much they make and they said 50-60k

people with BS in History

[warped cradle]

how do they survive

[hard wind]

this was back in 2016 lol

[warped cradle]

oh

make sense

[slender axle]

So? Most are getting at least 70k, and in cheaper places. And after 10 years you definitely will be making 200k. Being a teacher in 10 years you'll be lucky to make the 70k that other people started at

[warped cradle]

alone yeah but imagine being 30 2 kids or something

[slender axle]

why choose to just survive when you literally have the skills to be well off

[grizzled bronze]

what's so exciting to you about gooogle laying off?

[analog wind]

I mean u can survive on very little

Quality of life is another story

[grave drum]

huuuuuh

[analog wind]

Agree

[grave drum]

Nah that's kap

[analog wind]

But 35->50 is different

[hard wind]

are we still talking about nyc?

[grave drum]

yeah you guys aren't considering location at all

[hardy relic]

what is bro yapping about

[hard wind]

cuz 50k in west-bumblefuck, ny can get u far

[grave drum]

and 50k is nowhere near the same as something like 120k (average starting for swe) and not even close to 200k or 250k LOL

idk where yall living for it to be the same

[hardy relic]

is 50k not poverty? wtf

minimum wage is 31k. how u gonna save for ur future, have kids, go on vacation on 50k

[grave drum]

it's not poverty

but qol is not talking about poverty vs not poverty

[hardy relic]

u can live alone paycheck to paycheck with 50k

that’s about it

[grave drum]

your qol significantly is better from 50k to 100k, like idk how this si even a debate

[hardy relic]

yes

lmfao

[grave drum]

more money means more means of creating cash flow so you eventually dont have to work

[hardy relic]

if u don’t think so, how is 50k doing that

[grave drum]

making 50k means you will literally always have to work for your money

[hardy relic]

bro is delusional if he thinks 250k isn’t enough 🤣

[grave drum]

no

[hard wind]

well considering taxing in nyc ur 50k salary means u take home about 36k

[grave drum]

it wont... LMFAO

aight my g

[hard wind]

if 1500/month with roommates *12 = 18k goes to rent

rip math

[strange yew]

yea but u dont get to throw money into retirement

[hard wind]

u have 1.5k left for personal expenses every month

no room for investment yeah ur def paycheck to paycheck

[strange yew]

you can live on 50k, but u cant retire on it

[grave drum]

nono guys if he's making 250k he's always going to have to work for his money, bro plans on not investing any of it

[hard wind]

600-700 will go to food, electricity/gas, wifi, phone

100 for transportation, and 500 left to do w/e.

[fallen fox]

if you have cc debt, loans etc it's joever

[fossil jewel]

i mean teachers at least do get some pension

[hard wind]

unhealthy starbucks habit and ur down to 350

[strange yew]

yee 100k vs 50k is huge diff

[fossil jewel]

nyc teachers

[strange yew]

tech bros get 401k match, espp, stock vesting

[fossil jewel]

tech bros are privileged

[strange yew]

and they dont need to buy shower supplies

save on water bill

[fossil jewel]

lol

[strange yew]

free clothing too

[fossil jewel]

the rest of nyc lives like teachers making 55-65k per year or even less working min wage

[strange yew]

career fair tshirts

[hard wind]

yeah this is true

its certainly a struggle though

[fossil jewel]

they're just not gonna rent a studio for 3k per month

[willow sedge]

ive accepted my offer 🤩 im so happy to be done

[fossil jewel]

congrats

[strange yew]

congrats!

[fossil jewel]

also im talking from exp as someone who grew up in nyc

craziest thing is going from working min wage to six figures

[hard wind]

its a lot better than i thought to be honest

[fossil jewel]

people manage

everyone acts like you cant live on 50k but people manage to do it

[hard wind]

no lattes every morning

live in queens

[strange yew]

50k is duable

i was in military 1200k disposable a month

2k a month when i got out

[fossil jewel]

they just make their own coffee at home, and they usually have a partner/SO who they split with

or a roomate

[grave drum]

i dont think anyone said 50k is unlivable haha, he was saying qol making 50k to 250k is the same

[fossil jewel]

i think at some point your salary as a teacher can reach 100k

[fossil jewel]

it can be

if you splurge the 250k like a dummy lol

[hard wind]

i can see it yea

[grave drum]

sure but even if you splurge, the fact that you can do that is because you make so much

[fossil jewel]

agreed, we should pay teachers more

[grave drum]

so your qol is prolly just fine

[strange yew]

if ur qol is the same, its a you problem

[fossil jewel]

yeah, the extra money goes a long way

[hard wind]

if u live rent-controlled or share a nice astoria apt, u exercise often, hang out with friends often, qol can be pretty high on 50k

[fossil jewel]

you dont need to stress on payments

unfortunately it takes two big bad events happening to make someone be homeless

[red dune]

on what planet

[ornate cliff]

what should I do

invest?

I have 20k in crypto somewhere

[strange yew]

if ur maxing out retirement, espp and all that u should be chillin after a few years

[ornate cliff]

I should find it

[strange yew]

but u need to find a job first

[hard wind]

sorry, can be* not should be

[strange yew]

this is a lie

200k*25 = 5 mil

and thats without consider career growth, investments

dw youll be fine

you sound like youll be saving every penny

[grave drum]

5 mil, 1.25 mil (50k * 25) same diff to him xd

[strange yew]

imagine compounding interest on ur disposable from 250k vs 50k

[fossil jewel]

fr

[strange yew]

anyone need wealthfront referral lmk

[fossil jewel]

you get the illusion that you'll be rich

but we're all cogs in the machine

[strange yew]

work irl job to vr job after

5 - 9 after ur 9 - 5

[fossil jewel]

i mean, dont blame em but would be weird if one of their students saw

[gloomy terrace]

Cuz I didn’t return

[fossil jewel]

[hard wind]

if u teach <7th grade u should be ok

o 😦

[strange yew]

why u lookin tho

[hard wind]

bro self-reported

i dont get why what they do at home would be an issue to the students lmao

theyre not helping her shoot lmao

[fossil jewel]

lollll

makes it worse

[rain patio]

I wonder what the swe equivalent of starting an OF is...making a youtube channel or bootcamp?

[strange yew]

crypto

nfts

[rain patio]

Crypto isnt very profitable lol

[strange yew]

teachers start OF to go from 50k to 200k, tech bros invest in crypto to go form 500k to 200k

seems fair to me

[fossil jewel]

stocks ig

[rain patio]

But stocks arent seen as trashy like starting an of

[ornate cliff]

work at startup and hit ipo jackpot

[strange yew]

idk some bro talking about nft is way more trashy than some girl with an OF

[ornate cliff]

i made money on gamestop

lost money on everything else

[strange yew]

its a casino

[rain patio]

I could start my own coin like dogecoin lol

[strange yew]

paying for numbers on a screen

u cant even buy drugs with crypto anymore

what else are you gonna do with it

[rain patio]

I wonder if the creator of dogecoin got in trouble lol

[strange yew]

r u trying to sell me a course?

sounds like a mlm. im in

arent there already thousands of shitcoins

idk decentralized sounds so impossible to me to keep stable

unless you create a crazy algo to determine how many coins to release

nah this is economics side

like how us is combating inflation by printing more money

but they can control how much to print

coins split or something, but its on a cycle so volitality is crazy

if u dont release enough coins, then people might lose their wallets and what not

you could end up with crazy exchange rate of 0.00000001 to $1

yea but people will lose it right?

so then it will all go away eventually?

yea but if u find a huge gold mine you can just sell it all

or else gold value will crash right?

someone will always have to control how much is released

[rain patio]

Bitcoin seems like a lottery except the people who buy it earlier are guaranteed to make money after more people buy the coin later. It doesn't seem to create value either. It's just some kind of scam i swear

Apparently there's a $258 billion lawsuit against Elon Musk and the creator of dogecoin lol

[strange yew]

dont u have to pay a mining fee for each transaction?

[rain patio]

Companies produce value by making stuff or providing services and doing research to provide new products and services with the money invested in them. Idk what bitcoin does

It just seems more volatile than regular currency...maybe that will chsnge if it's more widely adopted?

[grizzled bronze]

bitcoin and all of crypto is a ponzi scheme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUs5y9leCyA&t=61s

[rain patio]

It crashed when elon musk said he wasn't accepting bitcoin for purchasing tesla cars anymore

[strange yew]

bitcoin pays miners to process transactions

if all coins are mined, then miners charge u instead

sounds like crazy inflation to me

[rain patio]

I hated those years when everyone was buying 100-packs of GPUs for their bitcoin mining rigs and making prices explode

Like when the RTX 3060 Ti was sold out less than 1 second after it first went for sale at Best Buy and other retailers because online bitcoin bros and scalpers just bought them all lol

[strange yew]

i was so confused when i sold my gtx 1060 6gb for more than i bought it for

this was after i used litecoin to buy fake ids for all my friends

[mental nimbus]

I have interviews in java, python, javascript and then go. How do you guys manage switching between languages quickly?

[strange yew]

hope that interviewers are fine with syntax errors

[rain patio]

Idk lol...switching between more than 2 languages makes me want to cry

[past hound]

The American dollar is just as fiat as cryptocurrency.

[signal jewel]

@neon perch can you check your dm please?

[formal glen]

with the recent layoffs it looks like 2024 is going to be bad for new grads

[elfin flint]

did good things happen to us ?

[strange yew]

we're only in this server bc we cant find jobs

[elfin flint]

[past hound]

It already is.

[rustic glacier]

guys i have an interview the cto next tuesday

pissing my pants rn

[fresh mango]

How big is the company?

[rustic glacier]

500 employees

[fresh mango]

Good luck 🫡🫡🫡

[golden agate]

nice dude, very nice

I'm waiting to hear back from someone that may refer me, hoping the position doesn't close. may just apply

[elfin flint]

118k

Wtf

[golden agate]

that's the req id I think

[past hound]

That isn't salary

as Nolan said

it is a position id

[hardy relic]

joel thought he was the 118k'th person to apply. not salary lol

[elfin flint]

Yeah I thought 118k people applied

[hard wind]

[past hound]

ah

[tardy geode]

bro thats the job code

💀

[earnest summit]

Stupid aah

[grizzled bronze]

Dick's is hiring for a remote 1 YOE SWE role https://www.dickssportinggoods.jobs/jobs/19428075/software-engineer-i-payments-remote-remote/

[earnest summit]

Competitive pay? How competitive

[past hound]

$67,100 – $109,000

If you live in LCOL, not bad.

[earnest summit]

Not bad

[neon panther]

go back to gender studies major

[pure mauve]

Funniest shit I’ve seen

[elfin flint]

[neon panther]

is bloomberg really still hiring

dont they got 118k people in the waitlist already

[elfin flint]

Yeah I was like wtf . But reread it again

[rain patio]

Link broken 😭

[grizzled bronze]

they took the job down

[rain patio]

[earnest summit]

Short dick

[pseudo wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAkDW1d3Slo&t=24s

If it wasn't for money, I definitely would have become a graphic designer/UX designer

Just learning about negative space and positive space is mind blowing

Like you see them in every logo and brand and don't realize it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBYY3D1gkQ0

^^ also I did something related to this in my co op lol

can't talk too much about it cus of nda smh

but I think it could become big thing in the future

especially when the metaverse becomes more mature

portion of what i did in that co op

some of the data is from eeg sensors

like the ones discussed in the video

[vapid oasis]

Hey everyone I got a question. Back in 2019 one of my coaches asked me to help design a website for his players and I did most of it for him. Does that count as work experience or should I just put that under projects.

[pseudo wagon]

you should ask him tbh

freelance don't usually count as experience

but for new grads I think companies will make an exception

[vapid oasis]

Ahh gotchu

Ask who?

The coach?

[pseudo wagon]

the coach

so that if a company calls, your coach won't talk negatively about you

[vapid oasis]

Ahhh gotchu

Idk if he’ll remember me

But I’ll try

[pseudo wagon]

never hurts to try!

[pseudo wagon]

@elder forum @lunar sonnet do u guys think this could be the next big thing in gaming

learning more about this stuff makes more want the meta quest more and more lol

just need to get a job to afford it

atleast from my co op ik that healtcare and pharmacutical companies are trying to use VR technology for therapy

I hope novo doesn't sue me for saying that tho

[feral raven]

Does anyone know if New grad for General Motors and Coinbase already closed or it just not open yet?

[grizzled bronze]

coinbase has only been hiring new grads through interview invites for former interns

[feral raven]

oh sad. I jsut know someone that could give me referral for coinbase 😭

[mellow glade]

@elder forum why do you hate wells fargo

damn, now i hate them too

[rain patio]

Wells Fartgo

I've heard so many horror stories about people's bank accounts getting drained by wells fargo and then they didn't fix the problem

This is why i use a smaller bank since they actually care about good customer service

[earnest summit]

drained by wells or drained by someone who got their info

[versed surge]

anyone take the recent tiktok oa?

[rain patio]

no idea lol

ah someone who got their info somehow

[gusty oxide]

I took the one from this week

[versed surge]

how was it

[gusty oxide]

I had issue where the custom test cases werent giving expected values

[earnest summit]

debit accounts are the worst thing to keep the majority of your money in cause banks cant do shit if someone took your money

happened to a person i know for like 6k

[versed surge]

were they lc meds would you say?

[rain patio]

WAIT REALLY!?

bruhhh

i keep all my money in a debit account 😭

i do have a daily limit tho

and i check my account daily

[pseudo wagon]

Bruh I hope that never happens to me

I keep all my money on my debit account

I never even got a credit card

[whole roost]

I'll keep it for you

Nah you good, already emptied your account

[pseudo wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPWasGuv0nE&ab_channel=KTVUFOX2SanFrancisco

sad boi hours 😦

[ornate cliff]

invest it my bruddah

[earnest summit]

i think its good to spread your money out between multiple accounts

[golden agate]

"So what are we getting started with?"

just practicing for when I work at Dennys

[vapid oasis]

I think these companies are just outsourcing their work to other countries for cheaper pay.

[rain patio]

Already investing 15% of my income lol

I want to retire already and i haven't even worked for a year 😭

[bold pier]

make it 40%

[rain patio]

I need to save money for my emergency fund in case I get an injury and have to pay $500k in medical bills because america 😭

[bold pier]

govt doesn't give you disability insurance/critical care insurance?

[rain patio]

I know insurance is supposed to cover everything past a certain amount, but I hear they can deny coverage for stupid reasons

[oblique harbor]

First time I've received a rejection email that says everyone who applied is rejected.

[bold pier]

it's okay, you also deny paying the money back

[grizzled bronze]

lmao, which company

[rain patio]

No, I didn't 😭

[oblique harbor]

AXS

[rain patio]

Do i really need to go to an hour long appointment just for them to tell me i'm allergic to oatmeal or something? I don't even have a car, so getting to the doctor will be a pain if the office is far

It's a shame that oatmeal messes me up because i really like how it tastes

Maybe I'm just eating too much of it? I like 2 cups of it for breakfast

Well, i was eating that much before I developed issues and stopped eating it

[naive ridge]

Hi everyone! I just joined. I worked at Meta last summer as a SWE intern, but I didn't get converted to full time and now I'm really struggling to find a job this Fall. How is everyone else's search going? Is the market bad or is it just me?

[bold pier]

Sorry, just you!

[grizzled bronze]

markets booming, just you, sorry

[rain patio]

Fr?

What changed?

[bold pier]

Yeah, I am sitting in Google HQ rn about to renege them for Databricks

[rain patio]

Bruh

[naive ridge]

Lmao

In all seriousness, what is everyone's read on the market/ experience this recruiting cycle

[bold pier]

I started substance abuse

[bold pier]

Was kidding, the makets bad. Too many candidates too few open roles. Keep applying and don't lose hope, it's gonna take time to get hired.

[rain patio]

I think it will stay bad until maybe 2025

[grizzled bronze]

@pulsar mural predicted 2024, but it's been a while since his prediction

any update?

[rain patio]

After that, we'll have a brief hiring arms race since the amount of people going into CS will massively decrease as a result of the current bad job market. And then it will get saturated again lol

I wonder how many freshman are deciding to go into CS after hearing about the current market

[naive ridge]

You think it's due to oversaturation and not current economic conditions, or both?

[rain patio]

Both

[neon perch]

The market will be normal in 2025 Q1.

[willow sedge]

most don’t know tbh

[elfin flint]

actually I don't think I will live that long

[gloomy terrace]

That’s me

[vapid oasis]

dw guys meta's gonna hire 1000s

[molten knot]

FR

?

[swift falcon]

yep I called zucchiniberg this morning

he told me he was going to hire all of us, we just have to be ready to storm Musk’s headquarters in the Corpo wars

[dim tundra]

how many rounds of interview do I need to get throught for said job? 👀

[swift falcon]

only one

u have to have a bjj match with him

u just have to roll, not win

[dim tundra]

for that sweet tech money? Count me in

[golden agate]

him and I train in the same affiliation. Sign me up lol

he's actually pretty decent @dim tundra so good luck ha

[dim tundra]

Its fine that job desperation does wonders for the human strength

[slender axle]

welp tiktok oa expires in 2.5 hours. I'm dead tired but gotta do it rn

[golden agate]

hate when that happens. maybe you can email recruiter to extend it

I think as long as you take it before 2.5 hours you're good. So maybe take 2 hour nap

[rain patio]

I wish naps worked for me 😭 i always wake up feeling terrible if i set an alarm for a quick nap, and not setting the alarm results in me sleeping for like 4 hours and still feeling terrible when i wake up, only to feel wide awake when it's actually bed time

[slender axle]

the email came yesterday and it was due today. idk seems like they just pushed out everyone to this OA at once. Some people speculating it's a test to see if you're ok with 996

so i don't think extensions will happen

also idk if it needs to be submitted by then, if so i need to start within 5 minutes

[slender axle]

yeah imagine oversleeping

ok but why risk it

its not like tiktok is my top place i want to work anyways

culture is probably bad

just gotta send it

[mystic depot]

is circle OA OOD?

[hardy relic]

anyone get an interview for IBM associate dev (USA) yet? been months since their OA and haven’t seen anyone say they got an offer (not ro) or even interview

[rain patio]

Didn’t someone get an offer a few days ago?

[hardy relic]

@rain patio they said it was for a canada position

[slender axle]

tiktok oa completed

not so bad

missed some test cases on one of them though

[versed surge]

yeah IBM canada is already coming out i think

[indigo storm]

issue is ppl think this is gonna improve soon

so even more ppl will move into CS

in next 2-3 years we could see the competition continue to increase

Like right now im very sure ppl going like "da interest rates will go down next year and 2024 will be much better!!!"

[covert owl]

Time to blame all TikTok influencers and ban them from discord

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[pseudo wagon]

fuck I have a data eng interview on Tuesday; I should be practicing python and SQL today but I wasted the day so far being on youtube

@tardy geode how was your DE/ML eng interview?

I'll def practice python after eating lunch

not happening rn 😦

[urban flicker]

Did you see anyone get anything for this? I haven’t seen anything in this server about the Canada positions

[proud mantle]

Hi guys, I completed my last round for Bloomberg's NG like 2 weeks ago (10 business days) and still don't have updates.

is that necessarily a bad sign? I've hear rejection is pretty quick

I've emailed my recruiter twice and he's responded pretty quickly, so I don't think I'm being ghosted

[silent loom]

hey what app is this?

[rustic glacier]

Anyone have any technical c#/.NET interviews?

[rain swan]

Which app is this ?

And whats the peacock symbol besides it

Just curious

[urban flicker]

Also did anyone else hear anything about affirm in the past 2 days ?

[pseudo wagon]

cold turkey

[pseudo wagon]

cold turkey

[silent loom]

i meant the calendar one

[pseudo wagon]

it genuinely made me so much more productive over the past 2 years

[pseudo wagon]

oh it's the one by notion

I think it's called cron

[silent loom]

can it link with notion databases?

[pseudo wagon]

yep

It's actually pretty good

[silent loom]

nice, thx

[pseudo wagon]

np

[vital leaf]

😭

Probably 3k applications bro

Since 1 yr

[rain swan]

Tyy

[rugged rain]

I heard Ace the Data Science Interview book is pretty good

The only problem is that it’s a bit expensive

[pseudo wagon]

It's not that expensive

I already have it

hmmm maybe it is I guess, it's almost $40 on amazon

I don't remember it being this expensive when I bought it

regardless I barely read it

It's more DS focused and has so much sections on probability and statistics

I'm tryna break into data engineering or devops or networking engineering

for data engineering I just need to focus on SQL, system design and coding problems

https://www.amazon.com/Ace-Data-Science-Interview-Questions/dp/0578973839

ngl reading that book gave me a headache

idk my mind just can't comprehend statistics

everytime I think of a binomial distribution I get ptsd

that's why I bailed from data science

I'm not a huge fan of data engineering but atleast I can handle it, data science on the other hand is just mental torture for me

[rugged rain]

I’m giving up on data analytics and science cuz I’m a stats major and I keep on getting bend over by CS people with master’s degrees

How tf do I even compete against them?

Lmao

[obsidian crater]

learn what it takes to succeed?

if you're from a top college you can try quant

[proud mantle]

Ive heard the same rumor, but I hope its not true cuz IDK if I would survive stack ranking 😂

[rugged rain]

I’m not that good at math

And my uni isn’t in the top 400

I’m planning to go into business

Maybe I can get a good finance job or something

Business analytics is also very appealing to me

[rustic glacier]

What should I expect from a c# technical questions?

[proud mantle]

Honestly Im starting to believe more and more that the play is to go into a masters until the tech industry is done with its seizure

[elfin flint]

Yeah I'm planning the same if I can't find a job until next summer

I'm gonna get my master degree

[dim tundra]

"go into CS it's future proof and you make a lot of money. Go into trade it's future proof and you make a lot of money" 👀

[solemn spire]

Why is everyone in 2024 so cracked

[past hound]

Go luck recommending that here, too many people look down on the trades.

[stray lark]

Hey guys

[dim tundra]

bleh I see a lot of jobs asking for it tho even in entry level positions

[proud mantle]

How do you mean?

[stray lark]

I did a final interview

Last Tuesday

And I didn’t hear back

[forest elk]

what's trades?

[stray lark]

What does an mean?

That*

[past hound]

like a plumber

[dim tundra]

Just manual labor and what not. Construction, plumbing, electrician, etc

[forest elk]

that's good

backbone of society

[dim tundra]

You reach out to them?

[proud mantle]

Masters buys times, prevents a resume gap, and allows you to enter the internship/new grad cycle again

[forest elk]

maybe wait till 14 days

[proud mantle]

Nobody gives a fuck about the actual education

[stray lark]

I reached out Friday

And no response

It’s a small company

85 people

[dim tundra]

Yeah like @forest elk said prolly wait 14 days (bureacracy and what not), I would keep applying in the mean time

[solemn spire]

I agree with this part. 2 years from now maybe all the grads finds jobs and roles starts to open more

[past hound]

Or it could get worse

If you are doing a masters, only do it to grind internships.

[cloud zinc]

two years from now? like the timeskip in one piece?

[pseudo wagon]

bruh i'm not even hearing back from helpdesk jobs

[cloud zinc]

physically hurt to type that

[solemn spire]

Gotta line up like this to know if markets gets better

[pseudo wagon]

what kind of market is this

[obsidian crater]

master's without work experience is usually a red flag

unless you did research

[pseudo wagon]

looks like those wooden bridges I built in high school lol

[past hound]

I think it is gonna grow slowly.

[grizzled bronze]

they could convert the internship to full-time potentially

[past hound]

May take years to recover

[pseudo wagon]

😦

[cloud zinc]

if they make any promises have it in writing

still malding to this day

[pseudo wagon]

^^this

I just want money rn

don't even care if I get into software anymore

[cloud zinc]

some of us were forced to do masters tbh

based off of circumstance

[dim tundra]

yknow one of the biggest mistakes I think I made in college was not networking enough 😞

I wonder if going back to Masters to network would be worth it

[rustic glacier]

masters is a waste of time if youre doing it only cause u cant find a job right away

[past hound]

Unless you are gonna get kicked out of the country

[dim tundra]

Doesn't the ML/AI sect want Master's as a basic qualification tho?

[pseudo wagon]

from the job desc I've read, no

they almost always want someone with experience

[grizzled bronze]

the one who did masters and prepped leetcode

[pseudo wagon]

master's may be a plus, but not a basic qualification

[dim tundra]

Some side projects + internships as well

[cloud zinc]

no but I mean like if you failed to find a job a year after graduating. Masters would buy some time to get some experience and network or something

[solemn spire]

Bad Analogy ^ but I agree the above one

[rugged rain]

It’s either that or 5 years of work experience

[cloud zinc]

like once you reach a point where you're ineligible for analyist jobs due to lack of work experience, you're only option would be the masters route

[solemn spire]

Also Masters is a 2nd chance, not as good as BS but its something if money isnt the problem

[dim tundra]

should've started working when I was 12 😭

[solemn spire]

@lunar sonnet where you work beo

[cloud zinc]

I'm not trying to defend masters either. Just justifying why someone would pursue this path as a last resort

[solemn spire]

Bro*

[dim tundra]

I've been hearing that since I started college. Wouldn't the field be oversaturated as CS now?

[solemn spire]

You a upcoming grad tho right?

[cloud zinc]

if things were different, then we'd reconsider. But shit hasn't been working out since the bubble popped

[dim tundra]

LOL that's like 10 years of my life for a six figure debt. Sheeeesh

[rain patio]

Ur just like me fr 😭

We need to break out of tech ong

[pseudo wagon]

nursing is even worse tho

[grizzled bronze]

i'm optimistic, right now we're near holiday season, but in q1 2024 i'm predicting it will be better

[solemn spire]

Masters isnt totally bad choice either. Just gotta know what you need to know that is worth the money you put in. Only reason I didnt go is cause idk if I can pull it off

[pseudo wagon]

the learn 80% of what docktors learn

but get paid half as much

damn lol why'd I spell doctor like docker

[solemn spire]

Jesus Christ dude

[cloud zinc]

Hate how a majority of courses revolve around AI/ML. Here I was thinking about getting into a cloud research project, but this will be nothing more than a 2nd bachelors + time to gain internship/project experience

[pseudo wagon]

Imagine if a doctor does remote work 😎

[dim tundra]

Didn't that happen during covid?

[pseudo wagon]

no I mean't surgery lol

doing surgery with vr headset and robot hands

yeah a doctor from uk did it

[dim tundra]

Hire me as the software developer tho 👀

[pseudo wagon]

on a patient in cali

or mexico I forget

[grizzled bronze]

imagine the battery dies while performing a surgery

[pseudo wagon]

imagine if the doctor rage quits in the middle of surgery

[solemn spire]

Im dude. Im in dirt at this point

No

But im leaning towards your saying. Find a job and start working words swe. Im fucked already

[dim tundra]

how long did you work nonswe until breaking in?

[solemn spire]

You reallly cant mess this up bro. You put in money for this, you gotta grab it. Intern or an impressive project whatever that helps

[dim tundra]

got that dawg in ya. Embraced that grindset

[forest scarab]

what non-swe job did u have?

ik someone who switched from business systems analyst to swe within a yr lol

[grizzled bronze]

omscs

[forest scarab]

but if i get non-swe job what if im not able to switch internally or break into swe 😓

true

[pseudo wagon]

it was worth every penny

omg it freed up so much time for me

tbh that's all I use it for lol, just to block apps and websites

it does have a few more functionalities but those are extra tbh

I would recomend to look at the statistics to see where you are wasting most of your time in

personally I dont' think pomodoro is helpful

it's too structured, and it won't work for everyone

you just need to experiment and figure out which method makes you most productive

for me it is setting aside an entire day and getting a good nights sleep, then working on the task from morning to lunch

then from lunch until evening

after that I'll be relaxing

pomodoro would add too much distractions to my workflow

like when I'm deeply focused, I don't want to be interupted to take a break

instead I'll tell myself, I'll take a break in the evening, for now I'll just need to grind this task out

💀

ngl I gotta add discord to my block list as well

sometimes I think I spend too much time here

how df is this possible lmao

maybe cold turkey's metrics are not the best

but it's blocking feature is the best out there

I watched 3 days worth of youtube in 1 day lmao

[vapid oasis]

U have talent

[pseudo wagon]

actually nwm I don't spend that much time on discord, I'm not going to block it

[pseudo wagon]

ty ty 😎

[vapid oasis]

Honestly I think I gotta block YouTube and my anime website

[pseudo wagon]

btw these might be because I don't ever close my chrome tabs lol

it's not like I spend all that time on chrome

np!

[trail cloak]

bruh i love your vids, if ur still interested in netflix next year lmk would love to refer

[shut thistle]

where to check

[steep cove]

You’re an absolute legend I appreciate that

[golden agate]

yep, great video!

[grizzled bronze]

would they even allow that? it was a new grad role and unless he extends his grad date i don't think he'll meet the requirements for next year

[pseudo wagon]

click on the application statistics tab

[pseudo wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JksB9P6sUJU

^^ how I'll be when I finally get a SWE job 😎

y'all unemployed haters will be hating from the sidelines

[whole roost]

bro ain't nobody hating, you've got imaginary opps

[pseudo wagon]

true

[pseudo wagon]

btw this was a joke lol

nobody here has been toxic, everyone has been supportive and helpful

[hard wind]

fuck you

[whole roost]

that's what they want you to think

[neon panther]

light wagmi

[swift falcon]

bro i gotta be honest

i am paranoid

i feel like I got this job

but im gonna fuck it up in the interview

[rich prairie]

omg its him

the leetcode plugin guy

[gleaming trellis]

Did you get the job?

[shadow pecan]

@steep cove holy u r here

[steep cove]

[pine topaz]

I love you coding sloth

https://tenor.com/view/you-my-beloved-you-my-beloved-ily-gif-22069713

[rain patio]

Hi YouTube

[steep cove]

https://tenor.com/view/dawg-skull-emoji-gif-24661581

[pine topaz]

you are an inspiraiton to us all

goodnight

[analog sigil]

@dim cosmos any luck u heard from anyone on finding a job?

[deep escarp]

Do Amazon virtual onsites typically include a Low-Level Design (LLD) or High-Level Design (HLD) round? Any insights on that?

[solemn spire]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[vapid oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/remember-wagmi-gif-24067442

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/rope-gif-23573395

[vapid oasis]

52 days until what

[fallen fox]

until 2024 and i will be unemployed for an entire year 💀

[slender axle]

Who would do this full time as a volunteer?

[vapid oasis]

U got this!!

Never backdown Never WHAT

[solemn spire]

Ask him if his moms name is software engineer

[hard wind]

me tbh

[swift falcon]

getting paid in trident layers experience

[gentle egret]

hey guys I have my first live code signal technical interview tomorrow and i’m lowkey freaking out any tips? ☹️

i feel pretty solid ab my skills im just worried i’m gonna get a HARD problem and have no idea what to do

thank you 🫶

[analog wind]

[shut crescent]

i think no one passes 100% of the interviews they take

so its fine to fail who gives a shit

u get experience on how to interview too

i think i legit failed like 15 before getting my first job

[vapid oasis]

I hated todays problem of the day for leetcode

I can never solve a hard question

Sooo annoying

[plain bronze]

NEVER GIVE UP

[past hound]

It happens

But not on a large size

You can pass the first one if you are lucky, but you will eventually fail.

[delicate lantern]

Oh hey I’m stressing a bit for my interview with the EM for Bloomberg, I feel like I’ve answered many of these questions but can I ask how you guys would answer “tell me about yourself”

[south girder]

hey can i ask how long it took for you to get EM invite after HR round?

[delicate lantern]

I took my onsite on Wednesday and then I found out the following Tuesday

Mhmm, I have 3 internships so I was just gonna mention my most recent one and just do a very high level overview of it

[neon panther]

ya i think high level is good theyll usually ask more in depth

[slender axle]

If you got a job offer in the midwest would you take it? I feel like it could be a resume killer. When a Meta recruiter looks and sees MoveEasy - Akron, OH on your resume how are you possibly gonna compete with Spotify - New York, NY and ByteDance - San Jose, CA

[glossy gust]

i dont think its the location making the differnece here 😂

but if ur really concerned u can do MoveEasy - Remote

[slender axle]

Well company is part of it. People are saying move to the midwest to get your foot in the door so you don't have a gap on your resume.

But if I was a recruiter I would assume anyone doing that must not be the best of the best

despite the fact it's just a market crash

[delicate lantern]

Uhhh also two more questions, how would you guys word/say created new API endpoints to sound more technical

And when they ask how did you measure a change to your API’s

I just used JavaScripts timer but I definitely feel there’s a better way 😭

And i guess a final thing I’m worried about is I reworded some of my bullet points on my resume after I figured out I got my EM

[south girder]

usually some monitoring tool or smth for response times if its like api calls

[grizzled bronze]

it wouldn't be a resume killer, any experience at all would help no matter what company/location

what will matter more is the work you did there and the tech stack you worked with

[grizzled bronze]

thank god you're not a recruiter

[slender axle]

but if we go from Amazon internship to midwest full time, its like a downgrade

[grizzled bronze]

it's more about the experience/work you do, than the location

it's not a downgrade

[slender axle]

last time I spoke to a recruiter they said they thought objective c should be removed because it's not a real language

so i don't think all recruiters know what they are doing

[past hound]

Recruiters couldn't write Hello World in Python.

I am probably gonna know a lot of C# very soon.

[slender axle]

i propose we just make 1 language "super c." it picks a random programming language, and if the line does not compile, it picks a different one. in this manner we can compile all known programming languages. might take a while to compile tho

[grizzled bronze]

why do java developers wear glasses?

||because they don't c#||

[past hound]

I think they use both

[lost ether]

Should just go back to coding in binary 👍

[slender axle]

honestly i'd be down to do assembly but the only relevant companies would be intel or qualcomm. intel pays bad and Zach from qualcomm spams my inbox so it's not looking so hot

oh and ARM is in England and I'm not about to talk to br*tish people

🤣

[pseudo wagon]

bruh buzzfeed is hiring ...

wtf do they need a software engineer for?

regardless I'm applying lol

oh it's another api developer role

This is right up my alley

but it's so annoying they ask for 2+ years of experience

ik I can do it

[mystic pollen]

i thought buzzfeed went bankrupt

or are about to go bankrupt

[pseudo wagon]

but the recruiter won't even look at my application cus I don't have the YOE

[pseudo wagon]

I thought so too lol

[mystic pollen]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/04/20/buzzfeed-news-shutting-down/11704412002/

its the news subsidiary ig

but what else do they do 🤣

[pseudo wagon]

^^ those are probably the content creators

Not software people

software engineers I assume didn't get laid off

[ebon summit]

can someone explain the bloomberg rounds to me?

I'm so confused how many rounds there are

[pseudo wagon]

tru

[slender axle]

Because I'm thinking in 2 years down the line. If I don't get new grad now, I'll need to wait for roles that require 2+ YOE. And there will be people who weren't working in 2023 to remember why 2023 grads have less impressive resumes

Also people aren't 100% rational. They just see a brand name they know and think its a better candidate whether or not it's true

[pseudo wagon]

I took a HR management class in college once

[slender axle]

The problem is they don't know their own bias. I've realized people can work 70 hour weeks and at the end of the day the words on the paper look the same as someone slacking at 30 hours a week

[pseudo wagon]

dropped it within a month cus it was so stupid

[slender axle]

The whole resume is a game

Very dumb game that controls our lives

[pseudo wagon]

the crazy thing is my HRM professor was making like 150k from her corporate HR job

[south girder]

1 phone technical, VO is 2 techs + HR round (if youre doing online, theyll all be in 1 day if u pass every round), and then if u pass taht invite to EM

[pseudo wagon]

HR people make a lot of money

lol I wanted to think like a recruiter

so that I can figure out how to optimize my job apps

[ebon summit]

what if I've done the tech already, I've been scheduled a tech but it's only an hour long?

What's HR round?

[pseudo wagon]

But I dropped it cus I barely learning anything in that class

[ebon summit]

and also thank you as well!

[south girder]

its not actually an hour long, they keep bringing u back for more rounds - doesnt the email say to leave a couple hours open

[pseudo wagon]

No it was general HR

[ebon summit]

It says and I quote "It should be less than an hour"

and it was sent 2 days after the phone interview

so I am very confused

[south girder]

what was your ph one interview

tech chat or tech phone

[ebon summit]

tech phone

[pseudo wagon]

both

[ebon summit]

Got asked 2 lc

[pseudo wagon]

I had 2 phone

and 1 microsoft teams

so far

depends on the compay I guess

[south girder]

does it say this in the confirmation email or teh request email

[pseudo wagon]

definitely lol

being a SWE almost doesn't seem worth it in this market

[pseudo wagon]

yeah that's true lol, I was just being a doomer

[ebon summit]

That's all it says @south girder

[south girder]

you see how it says last at least one hour

[pseudo wagon]

Once you break in and keep updating your skills, you'll be highly valued in the economy as a SWE

[south girder]

when you get the actual confirmation email itll probably say you should leave a couple hours open

[south girder]

they word it weird in the invite but itll be slightly more clear in the confirmation

[ebon summit]

Ah

ok ok

I was just super confused

ty ty

[south girder]

yeah VO is 3 rounds but they take breaks

so u have to free up like 4-5 hours lol

[mystic vine]

What would you guys recommend doing in the current market to find a job? Keep learning new programming skills or doing leetcode?

[pseudo wagon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

probably do an impressive project to put in ur resume

[mystic vine]

I have this project that I did

https://silver-kelpie-84cbfa.netlify.app/index

idk if it's good enough to put on my resume

[fossil jewel]

i mean is the issue resume screens or OAs

[mystic vine]

I am not even getting interviews

I even tried putting fake experience lmao

Still nothing

[heavy trout]

https://tenor.com/view/lee-chaeyoung-fromis_9-gif-18620474

[vapid oasis]

Yeah I can’t get interviews either

[heavy trout]

chaeyoung is one smoker of a human being

[vapid oasis]

Hopefully January picks up

Also has ibm ever got back to anyone

[neon panther]

so u have to free up like 4-5 hours lol

[chilly burrow]

Please list the things that you find wrong

It can be valuable feedback to this person

I'm not a front-end person

@mystic vine i do agree with @lunar sonnet . The project is not the most visually appealing.

One improvement is to use a nicer, more modern font

One suggestion I have for you is maybe try following a frontend dev tutorial, and modify it to make it your own

It's a great way to have a semi-structured learning exp

[rain patio]

Is the phone technical entirely technical or are there behavioral questions too? Got an interview tomorrow

[proud mantle]

Ok, some actual constructive feedback starting with the very basics.

1. The website itself is not set up ideally. It doesn't have a title, you just have it as the default React App.

2. the domain name is a netlify default, unless the site is actually called "silver-kelpie". You can look up how to change the netlify default name, it's pretty easy.

[south girder]

just some basic behavioural talk about resume and then straight to coding

[mystic vine]

It was just a random project I worked on 😅

[rain patio]

They actually look at your resume?

[chilly burrow]

I would not list it on your resume or portfolio

As per ur og q

[proud mantle]

On the frontend side:

1. Consider using another font, this one seems very default

2. The "View Crypto List" button is off-center

[mystic vine]

Yeah, I did not even make it 'all screens friendly'

Yeah, There is a lot of things wrong

[solemn spire]

Crypto

https://tenor.com/view/peace-z0dic-emote-emote-gif-21691500

[vague dune]

I have a technical interview round 2 at this company tomorrow. Round 1 went well because it was a relatively easy leetcode question that I'd tried a variation of before.

I'm super scared that round 2 will ask me a medium question I haven't tried before. If its an easy question I haven't tried before, I should be able to figure it out, but leetcode mediums are the bane of my existence. In a previous interview for another company, they asked me a Leetcode medium question that was completely foreign to me and I bombed it.

They might also ask me questions about Spring Boot in this interview which I know squat about. I'm gonna have to watch a crash course video and write a page of notes and hope that is sufficient enough.

I don't know how I'll be able to sleep tonight with my heart pounding heavily and me being so stressed out.

[vague dune]

Yes, they got back to me

[vapid oasis]

Oh did they schedule an interview

[vapid oasis]

^

[vague dune]

Kind of. I wouldn't say its an interview per se, but more of just getting to know someone working there to see if I am a good fit for their team. If I am, maybe there will be an official interview.

[shut crescent]

well i didnt mean no one literally lmfao ofc theres people who pass on first try but thats really just probly 1% of applicants

[vapid oasis]

Ohh nice how long did they take to get back to u

[vague dune]

a few days. a little less than a week

[vapid oasis]

Ohh ok so I got ghosted

Gdm it

[vapid oasis]

Ty. Do u mind if I ask u ur exp

[vague dune]

sure. I have a bachelors and masters degree. I've completed some internships too.

[vapid oasis]

Fs gl

[gloomy terrace]

Why did bro post a Walmart logo

[vague dune]

🤷

[chilly burrow]

If you knew they may ask a Sping Boot question why didn't you take time to learn the basics?

Also if you're bad at Leetcode meds then shouldn't you have studied more?

[vague dune]

I did study a lot. I did a lot of leetcode mediums. I feel a lot better about Leetcode mediums than I did a month ago. But they might still throw a curveball. That's what I'm afraid of.

I don't know if they will ask me things about Spring Boot and if they do, what specifically they will ask. I have been studying the basics, but idk if the basics are enough and they are looking for more.

FYI, the first interview was like 3 days ago. So I haven't had a lot of time to study since then. That's why I am nervous. Just hoping for the best.