#2023_grads

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slender axle
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I don’t want wait

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I want job

ornate cliff
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can I have it pls

slender axle
ornate cliff
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I need a 600 😭

slender axle
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I got 506 on my last one

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Need to get 600 now

ornate cliff
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that's because you're cracked

slender axle
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Is 506 actually good?

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Idk what average is

ornate cliff
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average is legit 600

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LMAO

slender axle
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What

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Ur joking

ornate cliff
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everyone has 600 bro

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not me

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but everyone

vital meteor
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There will be higher number of 600 than open jobs

marble ivy
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I remember after like my 3rd interview i saw the recruiters linkedin post that he was laid off and i was like bruh

slender axle
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Idk bro

tardy geode
slender axle
vapid oasis
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I got a 530

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Sry 550

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And I got rejected

slender axle
ornate cliff
vapid oasis
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ZipRecruiter

ornate cliff
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Zip is random af

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Waste of everyone's time

vapid oasis
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I mean I don’t have any internships

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So maybe that’s y

slender axle
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Ok if you took proctored GCA and get 500, then take unproctored GCA and get 600, when you get a request for a new proctored GCA, do you get another chance at the proctored one? Or do you just have to submit the 500?

vapid oasis
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Funny thing is I was expecting a phone call

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You can ask for another chance?

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I just took otnonces

vapid oasis
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Once

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How do u retake it

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I’m confused

ornate cliff
slender axle
ornate cliff
vapid oasis
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Well 550 was my highest

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So fr gca

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So wouldn’t make a difference

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I gotta tell myself

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Wgmi

slender axle
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oof I'm so mad I didn't finish q3 last time. My q4 was so easy and IDK if I

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I will get some hard greedy algo q4 next time or something

ornate cliff
slender axle
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hmm ok then they made it easier

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the old white paper says greedy, dynamic programming, etc

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i mean mine was dp but easy

ornate cliff
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yours was DP?

slender axle
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yeah

ornate cliff
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oh wow

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gca doesnt do DP tho

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what was your q

slender axle
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uhh it did

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are we allowed to share it?

ornate cliff
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the gist of it ya

slender axle
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I won't say the qestion but the general solution

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was that you needed to have an array of len n, and your answer was (i - 1) + the new step

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I think it was easier to understand than the 1 step 2 step stairs problem

ornate cliff
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interesting

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there's probably some stupid iterative trick to solve it

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classic gca

slender axle
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wtf does the share button do

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I'm afraid to click it

obsidian crater
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shares your score

ornate cliff
slender axle
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ew

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506

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glad i didnt press it

tacit grove
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are any of you guys in process of interviewing with any company? if so, which ones?

ornate cliff
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(as a sandwhich artist)

obsidian crater
ornate cliff
obsidian crater
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How many chromebooks?

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You can sell them

ornate cliff
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so I can leetcode at work

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extra pressure because of how fkn noisy it is

obsidian crater
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fair enough

ornate cliff
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simulates interview environment gigaChad

obsidian crater
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free footlong is nice though

mellow glade
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anyone else unable to land a job since graduating in may? :(

obsidian crater
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free lunch and kind of healthy

ornate cliff
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ya facts

mellow glade
ornate cliff
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i got rejected from my local supermarket

mellow glade
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its lookin bleak

ornate cliff
mellow glade
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whats RO?

obsidian crater
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return offer

mellow glade
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ohhh. Nah I didnt want to work there. It's my dad's friend's startup. The hours I had to work vs the pay was not at all worth it.

obsidian crater
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oof

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I wish I could get in dogesmile

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They're only hiring 3 + YoE

mellow glade
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there were days I was working from like 6am and going home at 8pm lol. most of their team is in algeria too lol

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it was fun but tough as hell

obsidian crater
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I would rather 996 early career and set myself up for success than 996 at 60

mellow glade
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to be honest i'd rather be dead than do 996 lol

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ngl its a REALLY good internship experience though imo

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cause they just throw you into it and you end up learning a lot quicker

obsidian crater
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People say that

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But they underestimate how much humans fear death

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It takes a lot to get a human being to kill another or kill themselves

ornate cliff
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trust

obsidian crater
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I'll join with you dogesmile

neon perch
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JOB SOON thanospog

ornate cliff
mellow glade
tacit grove
mellow glade
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the good news is I have a hackerrank to do for tiktok security and privacy
the bad news is I have only basic knowledge on security and privacy, and the according to a practice test they might have UNIX stuff. also im dum

pure mauve
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Lol

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gl

ornate cliff
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lol a tiktok oa

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gl soldier

obsidian crater
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I'm not worried

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I won a silver medal in a national level cybersec competition

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If it's like LC hards I'm gonna get fucked but security or Unix stuff

neon perch
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Idk what TikTok wants

obsidian crater
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Or just really cracked because you got into Tiktok

neon perch
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I think being cracked matter more

obsidian crater
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oh rope

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not chinese

neon perch
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The interviews are not that hard, you just need to be flawless throughout

pure mauve
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And I’m Vietnamese hence my last name

obsidian crater
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well done

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I shall hope to see you at Tiktok

neon perch
obsidian crater
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I just applied KEKW

neon perch
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Gl!

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Btw are you international?

obsidian crater
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Unfortunately

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I know how to swear in Chinese and that's enough for Tiktok copium

mellow glade
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monkaS oh God I accidentally gave myself more competition huh

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gl man

obsidian crater
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Don't worry

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They'll both ghost us both

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🪢

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Also TT OAs are insanely hard, like rope tier

fallen fox
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tiktok > equivalent practical experience

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those mfs hire non-degree holders? 5829_Red_Is_Sus

obsidian crater
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I think tiktok just cares if you can pass their insane hiring bar

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Their bar is very very high tbf

mellow glade
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its tiktok so i guess i shouldnt be surprised

obsidian crater
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Their bar is higher than a lot of FAANGs

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For new grad

rain patio
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did anyone give the tiktok OA this week

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SWE

mellow glade
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wbu? howd it go

obsidian crater
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it's hard

rain patio
rain patio
obsidian crater
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I haven't taken mine yet

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But knowing them it's gonna be medium/hard

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  • SQL
elfin mortar
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Wait fr? Do you know what the email looked like?

elfin mortar
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That sucks

slender axle
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yeah so basically we all got bumped back by a week

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which I assume they are already at max capacity since i never got a pre screen

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LOL a recruiter from the company I already work at just reached out to me

rain patio
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Just read a post on r/cscareerquestions that claims that the reason why so many people are getting instantly rejected is because of clueless HR people. They just dump your resume if you don't meet 100% of their requirements. They don't know the difference between different programming languages or frameworks, so if you dont have the exact stuff they ask for, they trash your resume before an engineer ever sees it. HR are cockblocking everyone lol

obsidian crater
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Maybe at small companies or non tech

rain patio
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So you either have to lie to get past the HR screen or apply to a company small enough where an actual engineer is responsible for screening resumes

obsidian crater
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But FAANG, nah

rain patio
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Actual engineers screen resumes at FAANG?

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Or do they use a bot or something

obsidian crater
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According to reddit they look at every resume

cloud zinc
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I honestly wish there was an improv-based class specifically designed for interviewing because I royally fucked up my LM interview

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Just fucking bluescreened when I had to explain my internship experience and had to suffer the remaining interview block answering questions that were the equivalent of an interviewer asking me "do you know anything about programming?"

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fuck it was so embarrassing

mellow glade
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LMFAO

cloud zinc
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at the very least, I made it through the entire 1-hour session rather than having them end the interview early.

mellow glade
cloud zinc
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But jesus christ that was the most embarrassing interview of my life

slender axle
mellow glade
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not yet. did u?

slender axle
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nope

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wish I applied when it first came out, but my resume wasnt finished

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rip

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afaik they still haven't hit any people who applied in week 3

ornate cliff
slender axle
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let alone people who got bumped

mellow glade
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wait nvm i just realized my email is diff from what u sent

slender axle
cloud zinc
mellow glade
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says im being hired as CTO

slender axle
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pls

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i beg

ornate cliff
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bring back henry cavill for the witcher

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and stop fucking around

cloud zinc
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I was all like "here I made an Embrava clone that would display office reservations from a database to a digital screen". Once they asked me to define Embrava I panicked

mellow glade
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im telling them to extend one piece live action to 12 seasons and quadrupling the budget

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this is what my email actually says lol

ornate cliff
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at least reject me 😭

mellow glade
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📠

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i'd prefer a rejection over ghosting

slender axle
cloud zinc
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This could have turned into an offer if I didn't spill spaguetti

mellow glade
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i wish they at least had somewhere i could check my status

slender axle
cloud zinc
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If they invent a time machine I would go back one hour from now and cave my skull in with a brick

slender axle
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also is anyone else stressed about doing the GCA their second time? like... no more retries

mellow glade
slender axle
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if I fail, I die

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no job

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no big TC

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no live in city

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just poor

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make sandwich

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subway

mellow glade
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what is GCA

cloud zinc
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now I have to panic throughout the career fair trying to find other companies who don't care about a 1 year employment gap

slender axle
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ziprecruiter, cap one

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idk who else

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you can take it 2x only

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if you fail youre donezo

cloud zinc
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you might as well ask me to find a toothpick in a wheat field

slender axle
cloud zinc
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THAT TOO

slender axle
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alot of places pay 10k to your student loans

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if you get job in first year

cloud zinc
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I will have to complete the semester with the mortifying knowledge that I might have to complete my masters and be jobless for yet another year

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companies scout for master graduates one/two years in advance. Since I have no company sponsorship nor any interesting goals for my masters, I am essentially throwing my money onto a burning oil drum

mellow glade
slender axle
cloud zinc
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there will be companies at the career fair taunting me with the spiteful tone of "you are guarenteed to find a job after getting a masters degree"

slender axle
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for ALL companies

mellow glade
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bruh.

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thats kinda insane ngl

slender axle
cloud zinc
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like that scene in blade runner with the holographic giant woman

slender axle
cloud zinc
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YOU KNOW THE REALITY BEHIND THE UNEMPLOYMENT PLAGUE IN TECH, DON'T ASK ME ABOUT MY SITUATION IF YOU ALREADY KNOW WHY SHIT'S NOT WORKING OUT

ornate cliff
cloud zinc
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fuck I'm so angry over this missed opportunity with lockheed

slender axle
cloud zinc
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makes things worse knowing they'll use this interview to screen me for other roles

ornate cliff
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if another role wants GCA you'll be able to retake

slender axle
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like... thats the last chance

cloud zinc
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I've sent out 10 other applications to LM on the same day as the one that I was recently interviewed for

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heard nothing since then, but only got an interview for that role.

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Thanks to the lead recruiter, I know that they will screen my other applications with this interview

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I've got written evidence of the matter, so I can cry myself to sleep knowing that these other applications mean jack

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I'm going to be stuck with $70k student loan debt due to a lack of opportunities locking myself out of new grad/entry level roles

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this graduate degree will serve as a paper crown that will grant nothing tangible in my career. This was suppose to be a temporary respite that would allow me to reapply for entry level roles, and I have squandered it

neon perch
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are you serious?

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Just 6 mins

marble ivy
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oh bruh no longer accepting applications

dense swan
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it asked 'do you have 3+ yrs of related exp'

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so we prob stood no chance

spring hazel
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You can retake zip recruiter and capital one oas? Like right after u take them? Ppl r saying that but I didn’t see an option

fallen fox
vapid oasis
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And so far I have nothing

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Just gotta keep r head up

grizzled bronze
rain patio
ornate cliff
narrow harbor
obsidian crater
hardy cypress
neon perch
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The depression is real ngl

vague dune
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Anyone here take the ZipRecruiter new grad OA? Without revealing anything about the OA (as that would be against the server rules), how would you rate it on a scale of 1 (easy) to 10 (hard)?

pliant arrow
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its just the GCA so probly a 5

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i didnt take it tho

untold fjord
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Are conferences worth it?

ornate cliff
rich prairie
# fallen fox https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/16sz2gz/why_are_there_men_at_grace_ho...

they did not "say [sic - "see"] any male identifying student attendees" when attending last year?

did they ask? how do they know who identified as what last year

how do they know who identifies as what this year? seems like they should go engage and ask instead of assuming

tfw top comment is "Are you assuming their gender?"

In all seriousness, idfk, the president of the girl's coding club added me to their club at my school despite me being a guy and not even really asking for it
🤷‍♂️

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generally a shitty post

obsidian crater
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I wish I had these problems

rich prairie
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i really hate the trend of persons advertising inclusivity in an environment and then immediately following it up by creating exclisivity zones

obsidian crater
rich prairie
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we need a new term

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ijntead of FIRST WORLD PROBVLEMS

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we say

obsidian crater
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IIT = De Shaw / Tower Research / Jump Trading

rich prairie
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TOP 10 PROBLEMS

obsidian crater
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fr

cloud zinc
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i'm thinking about auto-rejecting myself from the LM position that gave me that interview and all other roles that will use that interview in their screening process

rich prairie
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y

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thats calling quitting

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_>

cloud zinc
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if they'll reject me for that one position, what's stopping them from rejecting them from other positions

cloud zinc
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on the other hand, it will not benefit me if they move me forward with that shitty interview

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Like track and field, it would only be an insult if they move me forward with something that does not demonstrate my best foot forward

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I'll send the lead recruiter an email tomorrow requesting a list of applied positions that will use that recent interview to screen my applicability.

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if they will use today's interview to determine my fit, it would be nothing short of appropriate to withdraw my application from those positions

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I would rather attempt a new interview with the wisdom I bare now than have them judge my fit based on an interview where I do not underestimated their hiring criteria

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Like, even if I get an offer for that one role, it will harm my future growth if they give credit where it isn't due

sturdy forge
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why

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why not jsut get offer

tardy geode
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omw home after bagging 690k TC offer from GHC as a non binary

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THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO GO TO GHC

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BUT

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GOD DID !!!

cloud zinc
# sturdy forge why not jsut get offer

If they hire me based on my brainless responses due to underestimating their hiring criteria, that will significantly damage my future employment prospects with companies that give a shit

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think about it

sturdy forge
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no i dont see it

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blanking is a thing that happens

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or underassuming

cloud zinc
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if one company cares not if they hire somebody who fucked up basic hiring criteria for their role, what would that mean for the future interviews with companies that offer higher TC?

sturdy forge
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aight buddy wild take

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ppl in here struggling for offers

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and you throwing a wild take 💀

sturdy forge
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cuz i dont get this

cloud zinc
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I'm struggling for offers too. But the point is, if they pity hire me, then it'll be even more difficult if I want to find mid level roles outside of the first company

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IMO if they pity hire me, then they'll expect less of me, which means getting assigned in a project with less responsibility, which means gaining lesser experience, which means a diminished resume for future roles

sturdy forge
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^

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if you did bad

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theyll reject you

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they dont compromise their standards

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like there is a rubric usually

grizzled bronze
cloud zinc
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If I'm going to be honest, my recent internship with MITRE was a pity hire. Out of all of the other interns, I was the only intern with a "completed" Software Engineering degree. They even discussed the possibility of post-internship onboarding because I was the only one that went through commencement

sturdy forge
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why is that a pity hire

cloud zinc
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but thanks to the post-covid hiring freeze, they couldn't afford to give me a full-time role

sturdy forge
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then you did well enough for a full time role

cloud zinc
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That's the thing

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They (MITRE) were going to onboard me for a full-time role, but they literally lacked the budget to do so

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I know this because I spoke to an old alumni who went through the same fate with a similar company

obsidian crater
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I'm finna rope

sturdy forge
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fr

cloud zinc
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I know it was a strictly mitre thing because their coop roles used to pay an hourly equivalent of $65k/year ($31.25/hr) back when I interned there. But after "reallocating" their budget, they list their maximum internship wage as $45k/yr

grizzled bronze
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I'll take a pity hire, who is pity hiring

indigo storm
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Shhh let him believe what he wants, the less competition the better

cloud zinc
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like during the first week, I spoke with my then supervisor in a 1:1 meeting. He told me in this meeting that I would have a post-internship interview that would determine my fit for a full-time role

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but by the end of the internship, they never scheduled an interview in the first place.

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It was really weird because instead of giving a definite answer of "you're not fit for a full-time role", I was ghosted.

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It was only until the spring 2023 career fair that I learned about their "budget reallocation" from a new grad at their booth

cloud zinc
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not even

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They just forgor when I brought it up

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in hindsight, why would you hire a graduate for an undergrad intern role in the first place?

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I even stated in an interview that by the time I'm done with the internship that I would already complete my degree requirements

rich prairie
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obligatory 💀 emote

cloud zinc
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I should elaborate that I received satisfactory feedback while I was an intern at MITRE, which would've lead to a post internship interview under normal conditions

cloud zinc
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god fucking dammit

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let the record show

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it is leagues better to postpone your degree and graduate late in favor of a better offer than to graduate earlier and become financially fleeced by a shitty defence company looking to fill seats

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I should've known that I wasted my professional life at MITRE when they treated me like every other applicant for a full-time opening despite being a past intern.

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What should have been an edge for an additional offer winded up to be a gag gift from the very beginning

obsidian crater
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fuck color

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they keep ghosting me and reposting their job

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rope

cloud zinc
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I'm starting to feel like a combination of Truman and Sweet Dee from that episode of its always sunny

obsidian crater
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Dr. Crud

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Should I rope

cloud zinc
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just making me feel more pissed off the more I think about it

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like why the fuck did I waste my summer with this dead end internship

obsidian crater
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I ain't never getting no job at this point

cloud zinc
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I am at a worse position by accepting their offer

obsidian crater
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TC = 🥜

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  • it's not a real corpo job
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True

cloud zinc
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If you stuttered as bad as I did for that Lockheed interview, you'd wonder if you should reconsider the offer

obsidian crater
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ngl this past year has been ass

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ex-gf dumped me

cloud zinc
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$30.25/hour from May 2022 to late August 2022

obsidian crater
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then I didn't get a job

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then my cat died today

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🪢

cloud zinc
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Burlington, MA

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and I didn't even live there, I commutted 3 hours from Vermont to the job site

obsidian crater
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MITRE is a good name

cloud zinc
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I confronted them on the internship offer despite my grad level, and they INITIALLY TOLD me that grad level was important for getting considered for a new grad role

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but that was a fucking lie false promise due to shitty timing with reallocation of funding

obsidian crater
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My dad told me to just ride out at this shit company and then do master's or try for something better after that

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🪢

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Easy question to answer

honest estuary
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no

cloud zinc
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if you don't have company backing on the masters you will be wasting your time

obsidian crater
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  1. If it's a coursework MS, no
  2. Research and you want to do it yes
cloud zinc
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I know this as someone who bullshitted their academic goals and still got accepted

obsidian crater
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that's fine

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that's different

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I was assuming you're paying for it

cloud zinc
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My advisor might lie to me, but I know the truth that my academic goals with the masters is not desirable by any company looking for grad students

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man fuck college mentors for peddling this lie that a degree alone will get you places

obsidian crater
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Idk I think the market is just bad

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I'm pretty decent at LC - have fullstack + systems internship, I know docker and AWS cert

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still nothing rope

cloud zinc
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I reapplied to MITRE for a full-time role manually, and that past internship experience gave me SHIT for a competitive edge

obsidian crater
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you do at faang

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iirc faang even asks ML PhDs LC

cloud zinc
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In hindsight I know this now, but my point is that they don't tell you this until it is too late

obsidian crater
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I'm pretty much unemployed yeah

cloud zinc
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from influencers to career offices, they just omit any important information in favor of having you locked into a 50k student loan trap

obsidian crater
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I have a temporary part time gig at a shitty startup

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🪢

cloud zinc
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don't complain when you have 85% made it

obsidian crater
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I have made it like 50%

cloud zinc
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we have yet to secure a full-time, non-coop professional role

obsidian crater
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Mine isn't full time

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It's 3x a week until they get more funding

cloud zinc
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you still have a chance to get promoted or seek other roles

obsidian crater
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I guess so

cloud zinc
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at this point of my "career", I'd drag my feet into a mile of 2 inches deep broken glass for $75k/year

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no I don't. I've applied for a full time role at mitre and asked my old supervisors for a referral and they ghosted my request

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I applied back in early august and have heard nothing since

gloomy terrace
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Anyone looking for a job dm me for kikoff referral

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I’ll take a look at ur resume

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They’re hiring recent grads

cloud zinc
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bro I just need substantial experience at this point. I wasted a summer for nothing and I am back at square-one with no progress

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the more I'm thinking about the fleecing the more it's pissing me off

honest estuary
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congrats

gloomy terrace
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Mf is stupid

obsidian crater
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From what my gov friend said there's like 2 types of people at gov jobs - youngsters and boomers

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So looks like nobody in between

cloud zinc
honest estuary
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me

gloomy terrace
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U could just use google but they’re a fintech startup

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I started yesterday

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Anyways I’m just here to offer help

honest estuary
gloomy terrace
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Nah

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It wasn’t easy but I’ll put in a good word

honest estuary
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what is gdb

obsidian crater
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tbh every SWE ng is gonna be like this unless they go to MIT and wrote a paper or something

gloomy terrace
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Gdb is a crazy acronym

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But yeah

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Gdbear

obsidian crater
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GDB DN

cloud zinc
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fuck gaben, fuck influencers, fuck youtubers and fuck that promotional company for uploading that "learn to code" video on youtube

gloomy terrace
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Palantir I’m only doing cuz fdse

obsidian crater
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isn't stripe RoR

gloomy terrace
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No u get hella equity

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But they won’t ipo for a while

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Founders are opposed

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It has upside now

cloud zinc
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had I not fallen for the promotional content, I would have sought out a more lucrative role instead of investing nearly a decade on an oversaturated market

gloomy terrace
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I think they’re still in a decent position

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But atp id much rather have cash in hand

obsidian crater
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I wouldn't IPO in this market either

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Instacart IPO KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

gloomy terrace
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Even db won’t ipo

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At a profit

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What

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Nah google is 220k

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Without stock it’s like 190

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Cuz of bonus reloc signing

obsidian crater
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Nvidia stocks though

ornate cliff
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hiring only low level maxxers

obsidian crater
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My only hope now is 2024 ng positions

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If I can't find anything I will have to rope

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🪢

cloud zinc
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I will unironically rope if I find nothing by december 2024

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one year of no experience is already hell by default

obsidian crater
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yeah join me

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let's rope in R town

cloud zinc
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two years no experience is the equivalent of wiping your ass with the leaf of the Gympie Gympie

#

I don't know how anyone would find the strength to carry on after getting a worthless internship offer from a defence company and 12+ months of unemployment

#

I'd address these concerns with no resistance to my academic advisor, but I don't think getting put on suicide watch would be productive for my job hunt

obsidian crater
#

You have an offer

#

Take it

cloud zinc
#

what offer?

obsidian crater
#

Defence?

cloud zinc
# obsidian crater Defence?

haven't you been following through? I have no offer. The previous offer from last year was recinded last minute due to budget cuts.

obsidian crater
#

rip

cloud zinc
#

I've been freaking out about this for at least an hour

bold pier
#

Rip

cloud zinc
#

I even applied on Spring 2023 for a full time role at MITRE, and I mentioned my past internship during an interview and nothing came of it

#

I asked my past two supervisors to recommend the recruiter to me and nothing changed

#

the interviewer briefly, BRIEFLY mentioned my internship and changed nothing from the expectations of the interview

#

I have heard from past interns among other companies that they significantly altered the interview to discuss performace and results of past internships because it gave them a better metric to determine fit than hiring outsiders

#

the fact that they did not shift the interview means that internship meant nothing in their eyes

obsidian crater
#

cold starts

#

JVM cold starts are soooo bda

#

bad

#

You probably need to try GraalVM

#

oof

#

I was gonna say

#

That's why people like Go microservices

#

JVM does yeah

#

But JVM speed is supposed to be good once you start it

obsidian crater
#

rip

#

Isn't it the most used language at AWS?

#

@lunar sonnet I have an insane Spring project idea

#

Write a web crawler/bot type thing that goes into comment sections on websites and spams "ROPE ROPE ROPE"

#

guaranteed 200k tc

#

Multithreading + Java + Spring + start up Kube cluster for even more performance = guaranteed job

tardy geode
#

Java is everywhere

#

shit is omnipresent

hidden scaffold
#

hey has anyone heard back from netflix after applying

rain patio
#

I wish my job used Java 😭

cloud zinc
#

took a look at the rit career fair booths for tomorrowtoday

#

99% of companies are offering senior roles

#

there is only one booth that is looking for entry level developers

#

rip

glossy gust
#

?

#

we dont all go to ur school

cloud zinc
#

my bad

#

I've specified the campus that will be hosting the career fair later on

rain patio
#

bro they are soliciting senior level roles ... at a college career fair!??

cloud zinc
#

yeah

rain patio
#

bruhhh

#

makes no sense to me lol

glossy gust
#

mby theyre hiring new grads for other roles (non-swe)?

cloud zinc
#

realistic expectations are but a fantasy at this phase of the job market

glossy gust
#

thats what happened at my career fair

#

they were hiring but just not for swe

rain patio
#

new grad janitor roles (must have bachelors degree minimum)

#

become janitor at amazon and work ur way up

cloud zinc
#

bruh the last time they were hiring realistically was spring 2023

cloud zinc
#

all of that prep work for fall 2023 career fair down the drain

#

fml

tardy geode
#

the market will be up by Q1 2025

#

until then

#

rope

cloud zinc
#

finna prep for vermont tech jam at this rate

neon perch
#

Bruh this is just really sad

tardy geode
#

does anyone know of a good kafka tutorial ? like which is more hands on?

vapid oasis
#

Damn today was rough

#

Four rejection emails

#

Oof

#

We move

neon perch
#

Today was truly bad

elder narwhal
#

Rise and grind boys and galz

neon perch
#

Lmaooo

#

The men wasted their money

dense swan
#

Lmao

#

How many men were even there

silent magnet
#

What if you identify as a woman

tardy geode
#

bruh

split igloo
#

My parents just told me they can invest 2mil USD if I ever want to start a business in the US or if I know any good startups in the US so they can file a EB-5 for me lmao 😂😂😂

#

I'd rather find a citizen and marry than spluring that much tbh

tardy geode
#

pay off my loan please PES_Cry

split igloo
tardy geode
#

MBA is glorified frat

autumn iris
tardy geode
#

omw to GHC to get a refund

autumn iris
tardy geode
#

I feel nothing

boreal marsh
tardy geode
#

i mean

#

what i said was a joke

#

fr july last week till august 3rd week . It was a big surge in job openings

#

like less reposted shit was present , more fresh postings

#

but after that its all bs reposted shit

swift falcon
#

my mood rn

#

my mother in law told me to apply to this company cause she knows a guy who is a technical project manager or sth

#

so she sends me a job link

#

and it’s for like a senior role posted 4 months ago

#

“leads instructs and reviews the work of other developers and analysts”

#

everyone is like “just apply and see what happens”

vapid oasis
#

Wow I hate it when ppl not in tech try to give u advice

#

My tv was not working one day and one of my moms friend told me to fix it cuz I have a degree in cs

solemn spire
#

for me it was projector

marble ivy
#

apparently ghc this year was just international indian and chinese kids i saw a post, was hilarious

tardy geode
#

bruh its a disaster this year

#

650$ + tix + hotel down the drain

marble ivy
#

i mean if adobe is giving 200k offers from a 15 min technical interview at ghc, obviously it’s gonna be like that

marble ivy
#

yeah

tardy geode
#

WTF

#

15 min tech interview and 200k

marble ivy
#

yup

tardy geode
#

dude its unbelievable

#

OMFG , this year?

#

man here i have been grinding since 15 months to get a decent offer

#

wtf

pure mauve
#

no way there are guys at grace hopper?

tardy geode
#

yeah sadly

pure mauve
#

wait how is that possible

marble ivy
#

So with all the completion this years, no wonder there’s so many guys going to ghc, makes it easier

tardy geode
#

its awful , i mean as a dude i would feel so ashamed to go

marble ivy
pure mauve
#

wtf but thats

#

are they that desperate for jobs?

marble ivy
#

isn’t everyone?

tardy geode
#

most are international dudes

#

i feel

bold pier
pure mauve
#

" Not Ken Land" 💀

tardy geode
#

my friend who is a dude , got a his entire GHC trip covered by uni.

#

💀

#

dude is getting 2k allowance

marble ivy
tardy geode
#

holy fuckkk

craggy jacinth
#

Is he non binary

tardy geode
#

male i mean

pure mauve
#

wait how did dudes get into GHC

craggy jacinth
#

wow ok

pure mauve
#

even with non-binary

craggy jacinth
#

it perplexes me as well

marble ivy
#

LMAOO

craggy jacinth
#

you got to be pretty shameless

#

I guess everyone's pretty down bad for jobs

tardy geode
#

bruh anita b making Bank

dense swan
#

"Not a place for men, wars, fur coats, and horses"

#

Wtf lol

tardy geode
#

wars 💀

#

bruh

#

GHC 2023 = Hunger Games

dense swan
#

I agree wthat men should not go to ghc, but posting on linkedin and saying its not a place for wars, fur coats, and horses is just fking weird

tardy geode
#

i would go nuts if i paid 1.3k and the recruiter at the booth gave me a QR code to apply online on the careers page

dense swan
#

I had to reread it lol

craggy jacinth
#

weird analogy yeah

vital meteor
#

They are just getting linkedin +1s

rain patio
#

Me n the boys going to GHC 😂

craggy jacinth
#

Yeah no I would be pretty angry too if all the guys are the ones getting offers at a women's conference

dense swan
craggy jacinth
#

The way she wrote the post is just not it though

dense swan
#

Jk

craggy jacinth
dense swan
valid wing
#

is there a link to this post?

rain patio
#

Ewww i hatw intuit

#

Stupid turbo tax lobbies to keep taxes complicated

dense swan
valid wing
#

oh right

#

lmao

oblique harbor
#

Just found out I have a follow-up interview coming up with a pretty nice company! This is the only company that has bothered to interview me in this horrible job market (besides OAs/coding tests).

Really hope this works out and I'm no longer an unemployed college graduate (with a masters degree to my name, mind you).

bold furnace
oblique harbor
vague slate
#

WAGMI

whole roost
tardy geode
#

omw to GHC onsite

#

with 3 bags of resumes

whole roost
tardy geode
#

bruh

oblique harbor
whole roost
#

Nice, that's the dream

#

Good luck!

oblique harbor
#

Thanks, same to you

whole roost
#

me and the boys omw to GHC to interject with our own answers while women are interviewing

bold pier
#

Graceplaning

swift falcon
#

why do randos add you on linkedin and then never actually message you

#

is it just like connection farming?

#

is it because I'm attractive maybe?

whole roost
#

you are a very attractive young man (or woman)

cerulean ether
#

so many indian and asian guys

solemn spire
#

maybe they identify as women bro

cerulean ether
#

I'm an asian guy personally, and I just find it crazy how shameless people are

tardy geode
#

facts , same

shy adder
#

Same

cerulean ether
#

I heard of some guy who apparently cut in line at some Apple station in front of a bunch of girls and got an interview lol

#

guy boutta get blacklisted

tardy geode
#

WTF

#

where you heard this ?

#

thats awful

cerulean ether
#

I know some girls there rn

whole roost
#

Gets up-levelled to senior for being a go-getter

tardy geode
#

ohh

long fox
misty pilot
#

Anyone here have experience with SoFi? Do they sponsor visas?

long fox
#

Gotcha was just curious

#

I'm international too

shy adder
#

Doing volunteer

long fox
#

How does the process work, like which companies do you approach and stuff?

#

Ahh

shy adder
#

Yes, like unpaid internship, there are tons on Wellfound

long fox
#

And it's on OPT?

shy adder
long fox
#

Can I DM you for more info?

solemn kite
night marsh
tardy geode
#

fr

vague dune
#

So far, I've been applying for new grad jobs from these two github pages -

Anyone know of any other github pages that have a list of new grad openings?

GitHub

👋 Hey there new grad🎉! We've put together a collection of full-time job openings for SWE, Quant, PM and tech roles in 2024! 🚀 - GitHub - ReaVNaiL/New-Grad-2024: 👋 Hey there new grad🎉! We&am...

GitHub

A collection of New Grad full time roles in SWE, Quant, and PM. - GitHub - SimplifyJobs/New-Grad-Positions: A collection of New Grad full time roles in SWE, Quant, and PM.

vague furnace
# marble ivy

no way LOL. that is insane. there are SO many guys there... a pic of GHC in 2019 would not look like that

sturdy forge
#

the occassional linkedin search too

vague furnace
#

Like if you were truly involved, your resume would also reflect that (president of LGBTQ club, Women in CS clubs, etc)

foggy basin
#

just saw a dow jones post for new grad SWE

#

range 40k-160k fucking insan

#

so stupid

dense swan
#

Also 40k-160k applicants

vague furnace
# marble ivy

anyway, seeing this is sad bc as someone who actually identifies as Non-binary, cis-men(especially) do not like to talk about what my experience is like when I present as gender non-conforming, or are weirded out by the LGBTQ community, so it feels like they would be the kind of people to never hold space for women and LGBTQ folks

vital meteor
#

Fr they will never understand our experiences, I have been nb since the start of ghc and the struggle is real

vague furnace
#

i can't imagine what the atmosphere is like at GHC right now lol, probs so chaotic

whole roost
vague furnace
dense swan
#

Is this ghc or mumbai

vague furnace
#

i remember my Citibank recruiter said they actually consider cis-men candidates at GHC if their resumes show student involvement in women/lgbtq spaces

vital meteor
#

I'm involved with a few women myself gladge

vague furnace
grizzled bronze
vague furnace
grizzled bronze
plush wraith
#

WE ALL GONNA MAKE IT

dense swan
whole roost
vital meteor
rain patio
#

Guys at GHC be like: "Hello, fellow women!" Nervously adjusts wig

cloud zinc
#

are there job position links for positions that does not discriminate based on grad date? I don't think the github links are working for me anymore

tardy geode
#

omw from GHC with the money bag

#

Staff SWE @ Citadel . TC : 1M

#

sign on bonus : 500k

past hound
#

plus most aren't getting shit if they need a visa

#

All they really did was screw it up for everyone else that the event was intended for.

marble ivy
late zephyr
#

does anyone have a good resource for behavioral interview prep?

wicked swan
#

Right, so awful to have to worry about alocating so much money, saving them from the problems

#

Quite a sacrifice, if you ask me

vague slate
#

pls take me roblox its all I want for christmas prayge

tardy geode
#

This job market has forced me to learn java

#

FFS

#

shit is literally in every job posting

swift falcon
#

I wonder what Grace Hopper would think of the Grace Hopper Conference

tardy geode
#

go is hard to pickup i guess , you can't change your workex according to go unless you have actually worked in go

late zephyr
#

Yee i try to follow star but I find that my answers are still very very bad

pliant arrow
#

To me C++ seems most important

rain patio
#

Screw fast food and restaurants! I'm making cheap and healthy meals in less time than it takes to get through traffic to the nearest fast food place, and it's cheaper to make this stuff too

#

no reason to eat out anymore lol

#

I miss the days when I could get a whole day's worth of food for cheap at a fast food place

swift falcon
rain patio
#

even fast food used to taste good, but now it's nasty to me

swift falcon
#

fr tho meal prepping is 🔥

rain patio
#

I wanna try making a homemade blackbean burger. IT's so expensive to buy blackbean patties at the store, when it's literally just black beans and egg mashed up and squished into a patty....$6/pound for blackbean patties is pure BS wtf man

swift falcon
#

just made some amazing chicken soup and froze it

swift falcon
swift falcon
#

1 can is like 89¢ at aldi

#

eat with white rice

#

amazing meal 😘 👌

tardy geode
#

are those canned beans even good ?

#

like healthy ?

rain patio
#

would be surprising if they weren't lol

#

I want to try black bean burgers because they're cheaper to make than beef patties, and way less greasy

#

beef is good, but i hate how much grease comes out of it

swift falcon
#

make this

#

even though it’s knorr stock cube whatever

#

the chicken was like velvet

#

im gonna make this like every week and store the leftovers for meals

rain patio
#

dang that guy is brave to be cutting carrots that way

shut crescent
#

what sites work for u guys when applying

#

anyone even getting interviews

swift falcon
#

he has a bolognese recipe that I tried and it was the most delicious thing I’ve ever had

#

look him up on yt

whole roost
tardy geode
tardy geode
# shut crescent anyone even getting interviews

this is what i observed:
There was a surge of openings like all new jobs no reposts between last week of july until the 2nd-3rd week of august . like each day there were shit ton of openings. I was applying like crazy that time too . i had got Lyft phone recently and i had applied to it during that period. Post that it has been dogshit , either no jobs or no new postings all reposts

split igloo
#

like if someone is tied to only MERN stack and stuff they are fucked. market is cramped with college grads, bootcampers and self-taught peeps

#

try to pus smth like, Java, .Net, Angular, and Vue

tardy geode
#

MERN is brutally fucked

#

rn

split igloo
#

Obj-C, Kotlin, Swift

tardy geode
#

my friend who has a lot of exp in swift , is getting tons of interviews since that area is not touched by many . mob dev stuff

#

@split igloo full stack is the way . backend java frontend react

#

cloud aws , devops docker /kubernetes

#

also i see a demand for graphql too

split igloo
#

I thought full stack in general rn is hella over saturated

#

you can easily get seasoned devs for full-stack position from rando sweashop paying shit

pliant arrow
#

software in general is hella oversaturated lol

tardy geode
#

fr

split igloo
#

kinda sad but we 2023 grads (not fall grads) are expired goods ;C

tardy geode
#

well not brutally i would say but yeah its crowded af i feel

#

they would require 5+ YOE

#

well i have a MERN resume but stull get rejected

#

wtf

#

GHC more like copium

rain patio
#

JAVA stack!

#

Java, Angular, V - ?, A-?

solemn spire
whole roost
#

🪢

tardy geode
#

i can't withstand even a bit of it

rain patio
#

true it's weird

#

I hate the documentation too

#

it's all over the place

tardy geode
#

i tried learning it , but its dogshit

#

right from the documentation

#

which irritated me

whole roost
#

actual goat, such entertaining videos

#

imagine you started a witch hunt against them 💀

rich prairie
#

😂

swift falcon
cloud zinc
#

java is 21?

ornate cliff
grizzled bronze
grizzled bronze
#

"Multiple companies have canceled their 1:1 interviews because men were trying to take those spots and that was not what companies came to GHC for"
craughing

rich prairie
#

I had to take out a loan just to afford the general registration that is double the student pricing

neon perch
#

Junior = 7 YOE thanos

rich prairie
#

So the man giving the speech says "men are welcome" but that they are taking resources they are not entitled to

#

why is a man giving a speech at this event

#

why is there a high cost to attend (650$) if the purpose of the event is to empower and provide opportunity to disadvantaged minorities?

#

see this person is asking real questions

#

the more comments I read, the more it becomes clear that this comes down to:

  1. Bad event planning
  2. Bad incident response after bad event planning causes issues
  3. Some of the unwelcome guests causing physical issues within the space
#

likely will permanently damage the reputation of this event

#

smh

cloud zinc
#

Also there was an incentive by college campuses to give out grants to event-goers like free candy

rich prairie
#

doom away

vapid oasis
#

I’m starting to feel the dooming

split igloo
#

diversifying portfolio my guy, not limited to literal MERN

#

and GHC seems hella chaotic

#

🍿

polar aspen
#

Behold the cluster fuck of my job search that ends today!

swift falcon
#

congrats!!!!

polar aspen
#

Thank you!

foggy basin
#

congrats!!!

polar aspen
#

I am so excited! It's been hell honestly (as seen by graph)

bold pier
#

Congress!!

split igloo
#

congrats!

polar aspen
#

Thanks my dude!

bold pier
polar aspen
#

Thanks Will!

polar aspen
# bold pier You had an offer after 1 round?

It was for a game testing gig I thought would pay me enough to skate by until something better came around. The pay wasn't listed, and when they offered the job, it was $12/hour

#

So I declined that

#

The shifts were also 12 hour shifts. Didn't leave much room to interview for other jobs

fossil jewel
#

congrats

vague slate
# polar aspen

damn that one fourth interview to reject must have been annoying, congragulations on the job!

polar aspen
vague slate
#

oh my goodness thats insane

polar aspen
#

It was for an IT job that paid $25/hour

#

what?

#

Like gov't DoD type stuff?

#

ah, no

#

It was just a local IT company

#

Very much dumb. But they where somewhere in the mid 700's as far as applications sent out, so I would have walked across hot coals at that point if it meant getting the job.

vague slate
#

i definitely feel where you're coming from haha

tardy geode
#

how do you cold apply

#

@polar aspen

#

you international ?

polar aspen
#

I'm the US

#

I applied to places through the company website, LinkedIn, Indeed, JobHat, and a lot more

#

Sir... Do... do you need help?

#

Blink twice if you need help

tardy geode
slender axle
#

If you do GCA and get 600 can you resubmit it to the company that you previously did the test for (and got 500)?

tardy geode
#

i think mentioning metrics in every fking line of my resume is messing my apps

vague slate
#

to metric max or not to metric max, that is the question

tardy geode
fossil jewel
#

ngl when i was doing mine i had the same

#

then it looked wrong for some reason

#

so i just kept it for some bullet points not all

bold pier
#

Imagine resume starting like-

Jake Ryan (top 1% performing names YoY)

signal jewel
sturdy forge
night marsh
#

Congrats @polar aspen !

marble ivy
#

i have like one metric per exp

#

my first bullet point on my resume tho is pretty eye catching

“generated $50M in profits…”

marble ivy
#

ya cuz every project at my old company made like pretty insane profits cuz the customer base was so big

#

still laid off tho gg

grizzled bronze
marble ivy
#

i literally made the entire front end from start to finish from the design plan to coding the entire thing to launching it

polar aspen
solemn spire
marble ivy
#

it was a feature that recommended other products to buy with ur purchase at the checkout page

swift falcon
#

or like “we don’t have anything available right now but if you go online and check it out…”

cloud zinc
#

I looked up the postings available on my campus's career fair, and all of the open positions were either spring coops or senior roles. So I decided to ditch the event

#

Apparently some of the big tech companies that hire swe students decided not to show up

swift falcon
#

I had a guy stand with me for abt 10 min and go through my resume, but he has no linkedin WazowskiStare

#

and also no SWE positions available

swift falcon
rain patio
#

Bros really think they will find senior devs at a college career fair 💀

grizzled bronze
cloud zinc
#

all that is left for me is the vermont tech jam. I really hope the market isn't dead over there

chilly burrow
#

But what helped me

#

Was talking to the employees about random stuff during the career fair

#

And then reaching out later about following up with the process

cloud zinc
#

why does Netflix have two seperate job application sites for their ng roles

#

I applied to their lever site, and I get an email asking me to complete a whole new application

#

makes no sense

rich prairie
#

stupidity

chilly burrow
#

For early career

#

Why?

#

Idk 🤷‍♂️

cloud zinc
#

yeah, but why not redirect the job posting to airtable instead of having a useless middleman page?

neon perch
tardy geode
neon perch
#

Cause in the end most tasks you do can be quantified into a metric. In one way or another.

#

And that’s what people wanna see

willow sedge
#

p&g assessment suckssss

swift falcon
#

rise and shine

#

time to grind (play cyberpunk 2077)

swift falcon
#

we’re dead in the water

tardy geode
#

Let's go GHC , day 3

swift falcon
grizzled bronze