#2023_grads

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swift falcon
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its like having a due date but not being able to do anything about it

obsidian crater
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you had a master's thesis?

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can I read it dogesmile

swift falcon
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hell naw

obsidian crater
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what was it about at least?

cold pawn
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oop

swift falcon
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moving a game character in first person with object detection, but only via screen caps no access to game memory

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and then throwing in some shitty synthetic data generated with GAN to try and improve mAP

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kinda dumb and lame but I had 0 idea how to research going in and my advisor was not helpful at all, so im just happy I passed

obsidian crater
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@prisma flax is your employer still hiring?

serene nymph
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did anyone get an oa or something from figma?

narrow harbor
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are you still alive bro @gentle peak

rain patio
fallen fox
burnt orchid
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Expired rip

wet jacinth
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@gentle peak is you gone? sadge

tardy geode
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sadness sundays

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How do you guys prep for recruiter screen ?

bold pier
tardy geode
bold pier
tacit grove
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guys does this week look promising?

cold pawn
halcyon topaz
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this week looks rooe

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rope

cold pawn
brave forge
past hound
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(not a real product)

halcyon topaz
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bytedance sent me an email in chinese

pulsar mural
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show it

wet jacinth
swift falcon
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Position Title: Chief Senior Staff Principal Software Engineering Director of Software Architecture and Technical Operations Officer

LinkedIn Premium Tip: You’d be the top applicant.

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it’s like when your mom says you’re handsome

brave forge
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i got linkedin premium for free from somebody though

past hound
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same

rain patio
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interned at linkedin right?

past hound
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👀 Know someone at LinkedIn

rain patio
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O that was sum1 else

brave forge
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apparently linkedin employees can give out 6 months coupons and i got one from somebody

vital meteor
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I wish i worked at linkedin for the premium gladge

dusky folio
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I just hope this is true.

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pine topaz
vital meteor
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It's a typo, it's actually firing surge gladge

obsidian crater
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I wonder if anyone in this server is actually interested in CS

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Or they're just in it for TC

rain patio
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I am praying on that guys downfall

obsidian crater
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stfu

fresh mango
dusky folio
heavy reef
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Disgusting.

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I couldn't ever work for a Chinese company.

halcyon topaz
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Ni bu xihuan zhongguo ren ma?

heavy reef
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LOL, no, I have an issue with the government trying to take over my country, thanks.

vital meteor
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Taiwan Hong Kong or vancouver? gladge

heavy reef
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But in all seriousness, I don't think Asian companies have the same level of WLB as Western companies do.

ornate cliff
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Tiktok wlb only one with worse reputation than Amazon

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but I would do it, especially early in my career

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tiktok is 996 factory

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bruh 😭

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I want 955

vital meteor
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Nuwin has said as such and he works there

heavy reef
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LOOL.

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But I'll take Amazon WLB.

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Wait, where is this from.

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That's right up my alley.

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LMAO.

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CIA.

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Oh god.

rain patio
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Why doesnt Jake's Resume template not inclue city/state in the header, is it better not to include it?

halcyon topaz
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Ni xuexi zhongwen zai nar?

celest whale
heavy reef
ornate cliff
ornate cliff
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how is everyone coping?

swift falcon
brave forge
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you have security clearance and u have preferential hiring

eager aurora
heavy reef
heavy reef
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But the grind takes the fun away.

eager aurora
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Yea i can imagine

heavy reef
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No, I'm jobless, I'll fucking take Amazon. I'll take the worst WLB in the world if it means decent pay, I just need a fucking job.

ornate cliff
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😭

heavy reef
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I am, every single day.

eager aurora
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Yea thats really tough

oblique harbor
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I got a job offer... sort of. The company doesn't have funding so it's an unpaid job for now. Super flexible, I can work how much I want whenever I want. I have the potential of getting paid if the company gets funding within the next year or two but there is no guarantee of that happening.
I'm thinking of taking this unpaid job offer and just working 2 or 3 hours a week (bare minimum) while I spend the rest of my time searching for a paid job. If the job market is so bad after a year and I still don't have a paid job, then hopefully fingers crossed this company gets funding and I can start getting paid.

cold pawn
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that's not a job, that's volunteering

gleaming trellis
candid mauve
cold pawn
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don't do that
after you do the unpaid work for them, there is no guarantee that when doing a background check they will say that yes you worked for them, they might just as well say that they don't know you so putting it on your resume might even hurt you because you will fail the bg check

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plus you worked for free

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don't accept scam

swift falcon
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and my clearance is long lapsed unfortunately

oblique harbor
swift falcon
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doesn’t really seem like it

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ive applied to a couple of positions and gotten ghosted

candid mauve
brave forge
oblique harbor
# candid mauve Sounds good! Though <@866430640664215563> is right. Just be careful.

My professor (faculty advisor) actually put in a good word about me and another student to this guy. I just wish everyone would have been up front that it is an unpaid job.

I've been through far too many interviews only to be told at the very end that the position is unpaid (or event that I need to pay to work for the company). Job descriptions should be more clear about that, so no one's time is wasted.

candid mauve
rain patio
past hound
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Still no interviews, big sad.

sturdy forge
past hound
heavy reef
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Same.

sturdy forge
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i get you but i believe in you guys keep going!

swift falcon
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must be tons of veterans applying for the same jobs then or the tax breaks don’t outweigh the amount of money better devs make ig

past hound
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probably latter

neon perch
manic wedge
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has anyone else noticed when you block promoted jobs on linkedin there's only like 3 per page 😂

swift falcon
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I stopped doing it because I felt like it was blocking some things that I didn’t want to miss

oblique harbor
neon perch
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Done!

swift falcon
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it's sunday

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I almost wish we did not have a holiday tomorrow

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because then we'd be able to get on with the job search etc

rain patio
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i was looking forward to this holiday, and then i got super sick....and it's gonna pour rain all day long

past hound
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That OA from Ocient was.....interesting to say the least. I won't give any huge details, but it was one large question. Not LC in the slightest. Very hard in a non-DSA way if you haven't worked really heavily with compilers.

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Decided against taking compilers in my last semester to have a easier last semester skull4k

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Whatever, I still got like half the test cases.

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I only had a hour and half to write something like that which I never done before, so I think I did decent in my mind.

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Regardless if they decide that is a enough to call me

rain patio
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I hated compilers

hidden scaffold
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Did anyone else receive an oa from vanguard right after they applied or was it just me

fallen fox
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auto oa everyone got one instantly

hidden scaffold
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Damn thought I was special, auto oa's about to be the normal process of applying if things dont get better 😮‍💨

jade seal
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Its so fucked, image spending 2-5 hours of your day to ace an oa for a robot to reject your resume 5 seconds after

hidden scaffold
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I bet hackerrank getting a lot of money from all these companies being too bougie to actually interview😂

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If there was a way to fully automate the entire interview process, it would be over for ussadge

frank coyote
past hound
tardy geode
solemn spire
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The unemployment thoughts go crazy at 4am

golden agate
narrow harbor
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i feel special because i failed oa

rain patio
tardy geode
proper hull
tacit grove
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anything open up today?

halcyon topaz
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nah

sturdy forge
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It’s Labor Day

swift falcon
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I got rejected on labor day

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imagine that

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After careful consideration, we are pursuing other candidates. We appreciate the time you have spent exploring career building opportunities with us and ask for you to continue to review open positions on our career site. We wish you nothing but continued success in your endeavors.

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thanks could use the best wishes 🙏😭

proper hull
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Do you guys apply to jobs on the weekends ? Does it matter ?

ornate cliff
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You see any jobs?

proper hull
ornate cliff
rich prairie
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let's be honest

grizzled bronze
rich prairie
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f

swift falcon
proper hull
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What are your salary expectations for the roles you’re applying to? Specifically in Canada

delicate lantern
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I got a ramp oa 🫡🫡🫡

marble ivy
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I was not only a mobile dev, i did mobile dev, but I also did a lot of backend java work and python data sci work. And like 90% of my department didn’t even touch mobile and still had good wlb. I also know several people in AWS who have great wlb

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Those tiktoks u see of ppl working 1 hour a day at google aren’t real

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So is every bank but they have peanut pay, i work probably 3 hours a week at my current bank

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true

marble ivy
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Probably ngl

rich prairie
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banks dont hire that many people anymore

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typically 1-2 tellers are working at a time max

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rangers?

obsidian crater
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zon swe >>> bank

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even quants at banks make less than zon swes

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unless you guys are talking about bank teller vs zon warehouse

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then yeah probably bank

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true

rich prairie
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oh

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okok

vital meteor
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Google pays for overtime

obsidian crater
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IBs are regularly doing 60+

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not swe's tho

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zon = brutal

ornate cliff
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Someone on Blind offered me referral then ghosted my DM

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Sort Blind companies by highest to lowest rating doggohehe

vital meteor
jade rain
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what happens if an individual on F1 OPT visa crosses 1 year, who will extend their OPT?

obsidian crater
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You get STEM extension

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If not you leave

jade rain
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Yes, who gives STEM extension, I know it has to be extended after 1 year.

past hound
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Your employer

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has to sponsor you

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if I remember correctly

obsidian crater
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You pay and file for it

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It's granted by USCIS

jade rain
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I meant if one is looking for job, and crosses 1 year..

past hound
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You don't?

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Wouldn't that just be overstaying your visa?

obsidian crater
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You only have 90 days

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So more than that is violation of status

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So you will probably be barred from getting a visa for a few years

worthy aspen
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on your Post completion OPT which allows you to work for 1 year, you cannot be unemployed and be looking for a job for more than 90days. If you are unemployed for more than 90days, you gotta leave. But if you secured a job while not exceeding 90days of unemployment, your employer will be the one to set you up with STEM extension granted that its accepted by USCIS

marble ivy
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I think they meant per hour. For example if someone earns 90k/yr but works 3 hours a week vs someone making 180k/yr but working 40 hours a week, yes the second one pays more but by hour the first is way more

dusky folio
dusky folio
cloud zinc
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Rochester, specifically Henrietta, sucks ass

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can't get to shit without a personal car

golden agate
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I finished school in December 2022, but the grad year ended in March 2023. Should I say my grad year is 2023?

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fuck it

jade rain
golden agate
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On my resume I've had Grad Date: Dec 2022. Maybe this will improve my chances. I'll take what I can get lol

gleaming trellis
golden agate
rain patio
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I'm still waiting on my diploma smh

golden agate
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no joke lol

rain patio
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THey said they mailed it on Tuesday of last week...

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Mailbox has been empty

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Did someone steal mah diploma!?!?

gleaming trellis
golden agate
gentle lodge
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also waiting for my diploma

golden agate
hidden scaffold
restive scaffold
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What are y'all Spring 2023 grads doing for jobs requiring Fall 2023/Spring 2024 grad date?

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Are you guys getting responses?

hidden scaffold
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I am not even applying, feel like a waste of time

vital meteor
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I am getting rejections

golden agate
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I blew my one good chance last night. Needed like 30 more seconds

rain patio
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I gave up on applying back in July lol

unreal rampart
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Arghhhhh

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Sometimes it helps go into the audio chat and just scream

golden agate
grizzled bronze
hardy cypress
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Well, its september guys.....

swift falcon
swift falcon
vague dune
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A few weeks ago, I texted my boss from a previous internship, asked how he was doing, and then expressed my interest in working at that company again full-time as a new grad. I asked my manager if we could have a quick call to discuss full-time jobs at his company and he said yes, we could speak later that week. I then asked him what days/times he would be available for the call. He never responded after that. I followed up, still no response. Its been weeks.
Do you think its a good idea for me to call my former boss out of the blue without any warning since he isn't responding to my texts? Or is it a recipe for disaster?

golden agate
swift falcon
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ngl kind of disrespectful tbh

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he should have said no immediately

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it fuckin 2023, it takes two minutes to fire off an email, bad news doesn’t get better with age and if you are too much of a coward to follow up with people, you don’t deserve to put “effective communicator” on your resume

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just my 2¢

golden agate
tardy geode
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is leetcode the only way, my mind is fried

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i have no life , i am frustrated sad and depressed

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when would this pain and suffering end

swift falcon
# tardy geode when would this pain and suffering end

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we're the proverbial "men in the box"

rain patio
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ah yes...this reminds me of that "make a hole in a box" song

delicate lantern
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What is zon?

rain patio
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Amazon

swift falcon
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Beff Jezos

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back to the grind tomorrow

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the september surge returns in full force

delicate lantern
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Oh

torpid crown
swift falcon
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I'm just being optimistic

torpid crown
swift falcon
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september "surge"

dense swan
rain patio
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Me after I finally recover from this stupid cold I've had for the past 3 days

potent mason
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its covid its back

swift falcon
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I love how you can go to a company’s careers page and they have all this intricate crap like, oh you’re a career transition, or a new grad, or millerterry vetterin, and you go through this pointless marketing page about how the company is friendly and values people with those background.

Then you get to the next step section and it’s:

Join Talent Community
See Open Positions

Like bro, there’s no special recruiter or point of contact you’re just funneled back into the same shit as normal people.

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in the end it’s just a pointless waste of time

bold pier
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When they say they value DEI it means you should expect them to ask one question about it during the behavioral interview, that's all!

past hound
swift falcon
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there is one guy in the back if you zoom in

bold pier
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not a single sport was played or watched that day

lost ether
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I wonder what it smells like on the picture gladge

swift falcon
vital meteor
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Is indian not a poc

bold pier
swift falcon
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honestly I thought POC was anybody not white

past hound
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Regardless, that isn't a diverse set of people in that picture.

bold pier
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Yea, diversity is not just about poc

swift falcon
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maybe they’re all LGBTQ+

bold pier
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1200+ lc or rope

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White, 1200+lc, T5, 3x faang internship or rope

swift falcon
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what about POV representation?

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😔

bold pier
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@vale forge nice website, did you work with theo on upload thing?

tardy geode
bold pier
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1 more than us though!

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Double down, suggest features and implement yourself

tardy geode
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how hard is it to get into lyft?

bold pier
tardy geode
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bro

bold pier
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The interview will be tough, it's non-profitable startup lol

tardy geode
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they just laid off a few months ago plus going out for ipo and shit

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and i see them hiring

bold pier
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wait, they already ipod

swift falcon
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just be a driver

tardy geode
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cant

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i am international

swift falcon
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dw abt any of that tech shit

tardy geode
gentle lodge
tardy geode
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how is it non profitablev

bold pier
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lyft been losing money, it's not a startup anymore my bad though

swift falcon
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do you pronounce it like Lift or Lifed?

tardy geode
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uber

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bro this ceo team calls me at fucking 10 in the night rn

swift falcon
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ur gettin fired?

tardy geode
swift falcon
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I wish you the best.

tardy geode
swift falcon
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prayge praying for u

tardy geode
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bro has some sev2 issue and the sme aint available

bold pier
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Praying for everyone prayge

tardy geode
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idk how to fix it tbh

swift falcon
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oh ew you’re on call?

tardy geode
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not me

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actually

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that sme was

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but that guy isn’t available it seems

swift falcon
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oh

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I thought SME was some technology or sth KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

tardy geode
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its a sweatshop man , he thinks we are slaves available 24x7

swift falcon
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oh is sev2 like severity?

tardy geode
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yeah

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some times its called P2 (priority 2)

swift falcon
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was it actually sev2 or did the ceo just list it as such?

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we have a severity rating on our ticket system and everything defaults to critical 😂

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oh ic

bold pier
swift falcon
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i checked and it defaults to major

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but its like is a gift card reader not working at a single store really a major problem 🤷‍♂️

bold pier
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we were so overworked my manager excluded Major and Minor from all filters, those never saw light of the day unless someone changed them to critical or blocker lmao

swift falcon
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i meant like the stupid usb card swiping thing

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and theres like established documentation to troubleshoot it

bold pier
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not racist, abelist

bold pier
swift falcon
bold pier
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sevs are easy, just unblock the user and then put the bug in backlog

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lmao exactly

swift falcon
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y’all are on that enterprise life 😔

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I’m in mom’n’pop shop land

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i just think, if my boss died or quit, the company would go under because within a month the infrastructure would unravel

bold pier
swift falcon
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hopefully when we finish our current upgrade the load gets solely off his shoulders and he has time to teach everyone (hopefully not me) his job

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yeah there are two and they also keep everything to themselves

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and then hire a consultant agency

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like bruh I been on the sidelines this entire time

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put me in coach

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nah that ship has sailed

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I’m actually finishing up sth tomorrow I have been sandbagging for a while, was thinking of asking if there was any actual dev shit to do

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the problem is I can’t go to our progress meetings and say “I’ve been learning react and aws shit for the future”

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yeah but id need manager approval like u said

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and idk if he down like that

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I got like 3 different bosses sorta too

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mb i ask tomorrow

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“u got any dev shit ta do!?”
“no, work on powerbi”
“ok” sad_kermit

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like tedious? yeah

tardy geode
rain patio
vague dune
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Are you guys graduating in December? Or did some of you already graduate in the spring/summer and are currently unemployed new grads without a job?

humble kelp
swift spire
solemn spire
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Its over

hardy cypress
cloud zinc
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as far as I know, no-names don't check on your official academic status beyond transcript

solemn spire
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Is this group inactive cause everyone moved to #full_timers group?

narrow harbor
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rip to @gentle peak

wet jacinth
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nice place to rest

rotund portal
blissful geode
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If you work at NASA JPL would it be easier to get into a masters program at caltech, USC, or UCLA. Obviously JPL is associated with caltech, and I heard it works with USC and UCLA, so would it help to get into those schools?

sturdy forge
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yes it would be

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ik JHU APL has a auto admit thing to JHU

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so i imagine since NASA JPL is associated with caltech that would follow

tacit grove
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Did anyone see anything new open up? LinkedIn alerts didn't have anything :/

sturdy forge
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nope

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truth

polar grail
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All 2024

delicate lantern
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Rope

candid mauve
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Anyone know how to define this helper function copium

year = 2023
offers = False
while not offers:
    year+=1
    offers = anyOffers(year)
past hound
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Just apply for 2024

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New grad is anyone <1 year

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Unless the company is really particular

solemn spire
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thats the new ad on that removes linkedin promoted roles

heavy reef
past hound
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Yea, I still apply.

vapid oasis
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anyone take the RAMP oa

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it was really a time consuming oa

bold pier
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Recruiters are very active today, got so many rejections in the first half itself

unreal rampart
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I lose a little bit of sanity every day

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Where did it all go wrong

gloomy terrace
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rip palantir only has jan 2024 start

willow sedge
unreal rampart
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Tbh I think NG 2023 just got fucked over and NG programs are back in full swing 2024

gloomy terrace
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me too

unreal rampart
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Probably why some companies didn’t do NG 2023 at all or deferred their 2023 cohorts to 2024

swift falcon
past hound
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surprisely

vapid oasis
unreal rampart
whole berry
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i come back from cottage weekend and 2022 grad process channel is kill

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no

ornate cliff
bold thorn
unreal rampart
clear tusk
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there are signficantly less openings for 2024

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and our openings r worse quality too

rain patio
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@clear tusk why 95

clear tusk
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i graduate in like 95 days 😭

rain patio
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Oh ur Dec 23 too

clear tusk
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yea!

rain patio
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It’s joever for us

clear tusk
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ikr 😭

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i think we can find a job in like march or april

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but i dont think we're graduating w jobs lined up 😭

rain patio
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I’m gonna be so sad by then

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I will have no mental composure to keep on applying

clear tusk
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🫡

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whats ur countdown for

rain patio
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When I start applying for masters

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Or study actuary ig

clear tusk
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LMFAOSDOAS

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so real

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@rain patio the first 2 exams seem really easy

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maybe theres hope!

rain patio
loud sluice
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nah we will get jobs trust 🫡

clear tusk
ornate cliff
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gg 2023

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what do we do now?

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I'm Canadian I'm gg

unreal rampart
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Same bro

ornate cliff
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😭

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This country is a scam bro 😭

elder narwhal
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> date -u 0905195723

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ngl i actually need help sadge

tardy geode
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is linkedin dry today ?

past hound
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We are all expiring that is why.

tacit grove
serene nymph
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tiktok reject

hidden scaffold
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Apparently september is going to be popping, though people might have been exxagerating

outer radish
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they literally waitlisted a lot of inclined interns

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if they do open its going to be really competitive nlg

hidden scaffold
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🤷

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Just what I heard

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Though if a lot of big tech jobs open up their new grad roles, I do not think there would be a lot of competition

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New grad roles already restrict a specific amount of people to a criteria that most people are not going to meet

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2022 new grads might not make it, though maybe this might be hope for us 2023 may grads

dense swan
hidden scaffold
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Nope it was early last month

dense swan
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Maybe his opinion changed since then too

hidden scaffold
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Well i dont think it was even his opinion, he said thats what he was told by a recruiter

dense swan
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Oh i see

hidden scaffold
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Imma see if I can find the post

dense swan
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Yea let us know

hidden scaffold
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Looks like it is buried and too lazy to find it, I guess theres no hope for us but hope itself

dense swan
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Yea also the recruiters info may have changed too..

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All we can do is hope

heavy reef
rain patio
obsidian crater
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There isn't any

hidden scaffold
rain patio
hidden scaffold
past hound
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The dec 2023 - whatever is just a suggestion

rain patio
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PayPal is pretty big tho

hidden scaffold
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Yeah because faang doesn't just include just 5 companies

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You obviously don't want an acronym that is 100 characters long

rich prairie
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;-;

past hound
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just apply for 2024

rich prairie
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thats what im doin

rain patio
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We need to extend the acronym to include more companies. Something like FAANG++

hidden scaffold
# rich prairie then where do we go

If they don't accept us for new grad roles then we would just have better luck waiting until the market gets better and apply for entry roles

rich prairie
#

😩

past hound
#

FAANG--

rich prairie
#

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG++++++++++++++++++++++++++

hidden scaffold
rain patio
hidden scaffold
rain patio
#

If companies are willing to hire bootcampers, the market must be pretty good

hidden scaffold
#

Yeah but how are you going to get past the resume screening without a degree

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Even google is now starting to gatekeep people without degrees

rain patio
#

Skills/extremely high demand for SWEs

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Pre 2022 was a wild time omg. One of my peers when I was a college freshman in 2019 got a high paying software job and just quit college after 1 semester lmao

willow sedge
#

yooo a job just emailed me asking for my github

hidden scaffold
#

No I mean almost all of their requirements for entry level roles say that you need to have atleast a bachelors degree in so and so

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Fair. Though I do not know why they would put that there if they are not going to gatekeep you if you do not have that requirement, especially with google being such a big company and em being able to afford to gatekeep a lot of ppl

tardy geode
#

is it NGMI

#

?

hidden scaffold
obsidian crater
#

Companies only care about one thing

#

Can you OOP

#

All your projects must look like this

vague dune
#

Thoughts on getting a software job at your parents company through nepotism? Job market is so bad I'm seriously considering it but it might be weird being around my parent in the workplace all the time tbh

ornate cliff
#

Is Bloomberg out?

forest elk
#

no

#

i just cheked

ornate cliff
#

So the guy got reached out to probably?

#

Damn that must be nice

obsidian crater
#

🪢

#

his profile reads like a NG

#

Bro he has a PhD in physics

#

Quant feeder

#

He's gonna leave his 500K google job

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for 900k quant

#

hmm

#

wild

#

sheesh

swift falcon
#

you have an easy in

#

people who whinge about neopotism are cry babies

dense swan
#

Id say go for it as well

swift falcon
#

I'd love it if my Dad got me a job at his company

dense swan
#

Me too

forest elk
#

me too

ornate cliff
hidden scaffold
# obsidian crater his profile reads like a NG

Also on his linkedin he says he is staff but does not put any swe experiences. So did this guy started working at google straight out of college in 2016 and climbed all the way to staff in 6/7 years?

obsidian crater
#

maybe

#

it's possible

hidden scaffold
#

Its possible but definitely either very exceptional or something does not add up. Google is very stingy about promoting people

ornate cliff
#

aint no shame in no name

hidden scaffold
#

Heard it can take 6-7 years just to get to senior

#

So this guy getting it in that amount of time... This guy really is a super 10x programmerthanospog

ornate cliff
#

he probably had early access to google bard

hidden scaffold
#

Yeah phd must have also really helped

#

must have been in a niche field

#

tho suprised he wouldn't include that(I would)

ornate cliff
#

he's chilling at GOOG he probably hasn't opened linkedin in years

hidden scaffold
#

Yeah but being in google that long would kill me mentally, would think he would want to try something new

#

Tho maybe he is just waiting for this tech pandemic to die off

vapid oasis
#

Builds off from previous questions

tacit grove
#

guys are things going to open up this month or is it going to be a depressed month again?

#

linkedin was literally dry today

cloud zinc
#

Just found out that my off-campus housing for this semester has mold that they failed to clean after the old tenant

#

I've been sleeping in this apartment for three weeks

#

I'm so fucking pissed

marble ivy
#

Bruh someone on the cs reddit posted they went from a swe at linkedin to a swe at revature

rich prairie
#

Revature

#

💀

pine topaz
#

why is it the most upvoted post on september week

#

i thought its september surge

ornate cliff
#

I'll take Amazon to Tata Consultancy at this point

marble ivy
#

were u the jan wave

ornate cliff
#

No I just didn't get RTO HideThePain

marble ivy
#

Delayed?

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Or just no offer

past hound
ornate cliff
marble ivy
#

Danggg

#

R u 2024 grad

ornate cliff
marble ivy
#

Oh sht

ornate cliff
#

I'm so fucked KEKW

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If they open new grad for sure 😭

#

Thank you

ornate cliff
marble ivy
#

new grad been open

ornate cliff
#

So I'm extra fucked

marble ivy
#

i didn’t have a technical for wells

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i just had 1 interview

#

behavioral only

#

but they asked some random tech questions

#

like oop

#

no coding

marble ivy
ornate cliff
marble ivy
#

gg

ornate cliff
#

Oh lol looks like I've applied to Citi already.... Should I reapply with referral?

marble ivy
#

is banff and jasper and stuff in alberta

ornate cliff
#

Yeah that's where I am LMAO

marble ivy
#

U brown?

ornate cliff
#

kinda

marble ivy
#

😂

ornate cliff
#

is that why citi ghosted me?

#

LFG

#

@marble ivy can you hook me with Toronto referral? prayge

marble ivy
#

Ya

#

U gonna move to brampton?

ornate cliff
#

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

I'm not that type of brown

#

Richmond Hill type

ornate cliff
pine topaz
ornate cliff
split igloo
#

oh man i love nyc more than bay area

#

so many opportunities,

#

I didn't know that the city has so many startups with good paying

#

Literally they are not even posting stuff on online

#

just mignling through tech meetings and shit tons of hirigin manages and engineers aroudn the city

shrewd juniper
#

I'm a recent grad from there

ornate cliff
ornate cliff
shrewd juniper
# ornate cliff Yeah bro

yoo thats cool, comp sci or seng? Yeah calgary comp called Pason, Ive gotten more call backs from calgary companies if you havent been applying to them .😮

ornate cliff
#

Who else is hiring? 😅

#

Pason that's sickkkk... C++ right?

#

I was CS not seng

#

Most mid cs program in the country

shrewd juniper
shrewd juniper
obsidian crater
#

oh nice

shrewd juniper
obsidian crater
#

What's the TC?

shrewd juniper
#

80k

obsidian crater
#

Alberta is cheap?

#

Or mcol

shrewd juniper
#

nah mcol id say, rent prices are crazy now. and food and eveything expensive from inflation

ornate cliff
tardy geode
obsidian crater
#

why canada so expensive

shrewd juniper
#

cause Trudeau

shrewd juniper
obsidian crater
#

Trudeau?

#

That handsome nepo guy?

shrewd juniper
#

our prime minister, absoulte garbage

#

decisions

obsidian crater
#

don't become sri lanka

#

nepo govt -> ruined economy

shrewd juniper
#

looking like we swinging that way prayge

#

we'll see in a few years

obsidian crater
#

bro

ornate cliff
obsidian crater
#

one of my friends tried to get into alberta politics

ornate cliff
#

@obsidian crater you from calgary too?

obsidian crater
#

no

#

I just knew a guy who was at my school who was from there

ornate cliff
#

oh sick

obsidian crater
#

Idk why he came here to the US lol

ornate cliff
obsidian crater
#

He just went back after a semester

#

probably transfer student

ornate cliff
#

Oh ok LOL

obsidian crater
#

anyway guy gave up and is becoming a lawyer lol

ornate cliff
#

LOL wtf

obsidian crater
#

gave up on CS

ornate cliff
#

better than being a politician tbh

obsidian crater
#

flunked out

#

🪢

ornate cliff
#

oh

#

damn 😦

shrewd juniper
#

sadge HideThePain

ornate cliff
#

but got into law school?

#

kinda impressive ngl

#

LMAO

shrewd juniper
#

word thats an upgrade

obsidian crater
#

I guess he switched majors from cs

ornate cliff
#

yeah but law needs crazy GPA so respect I guess

obsidian crater
#

true true

#

rope for everyone else

ornate cliff
#

I'm ropemaxxing

obsidian crater
#

I heard Ualberta is good

ornate cliff
#

yeah it's amazing

#

a lot of ML ogs are there

obsidian crater
#

I was gonna apply there because I found this prof who really fits the kind of research I wanna do

#

but my gpa is trash KEKW

ornate cliff
#

reinforcement learning

obsidian crater
#

🪢

ornate cliff
#

deepmind opened an office in edmonton

#

with a bunch of uofa profs

obsidian crater
#

and closed it

ornate cliff
#

it closed last year but still

#

lol

obsidian crater
#

it's joever

#

My gpa is dog

#

I should've grinded now only rope

past hound
#

I grinded GPA, and I am in the same spot as you.

obsidian crater
#

GPA matters for grad school though

#

You can go to a decent one

#

If you have good gpa

cold pawn
obsidian crater
#
  1. Be rich
  2. Loans
  3. 🪢
#

You simp hard

#

Hope someone notices you

#

Kiss lots of ass

#

Get a professor to like you and give you monetary compensation for labor

rain patio
#

Anyone watch Attack on Titan? Bruh they dropped the ball so hard with the ending. I know the anime isn't done yet, but I couldn't stand waiting even another minute after finishing the last anime episode released so far. I had to know the ending, so I looked up the manga spoilers....bruh i'm so pissed. The story was so perfect, and then the dude had to ruin it smh

#

Eren was supposed to win. Not because he was justified, but because no one else had nearly as much resolve as he did. AOT wasn't supposed to have a happy ending, and everything was building up to this, only for the writer to chicken out smh.

#

Eren winning would have been such a poetic ending. A good kid who ended up becoming so evil that even the most horrible characters in the show were appalled by him. It's called poetry smh

vital meteor
#

Wdym didn't AOT end after beast titan and they got to the sea ? copium

rain patio
#

no there's more lol

#

A lot of stuff happens, but basically Eren becomes more and more unhinged and betrays everyone. He somehow manages to gain the full power of the founding titan even though he doesn't have royal blood, and he sends out millions of colossal titans to wipe out all of humanity outside of the island he's from

#

And then freakin Mikasa kills Eren before he can actually do it

#

Well, Mikasa killing him is part of the manga, it hasn't been adapted in the anime yet

#

what a let down

dense swan
rain patio
dense swan
#

I totally agree i hoped eren would win, but everyone kinda knew eren would have to lose for typical ending

#

I feel aot got way too popular to end with eren winning

rain patio
#

man this is why I hate anime. Most of them have bad stories, and then there's AOT with it's amazing story that keeps getting better and better until the ball gets dropped so hard that i don't even care about it anymore

dense swan
#

There are kids watching these stuffs too i guess, so maybe the company made him chicken out or sth

rain patio
#

I'm sick of cliche stories and stuff. Why can't people be brave and go all out with an unexpected ending smh

dense swan
#

Yea lol i totally how u feel

#

Graphics cool tho

rain patio
#

Bruh AOT is like M rated there's no excuse to chicken out lol

dense swan
#

Lol tru

tardy geode
#

is it okay if i don't mention where am i located in my resume ?

#

or will that be an issue

#

or disadvantage

whole roost
#

i dont mind reading or watching incomplete stuff anymore

marble ivy
#

I srsly got aot spoiled from the cs career discord

whole roost
#

shoudlve gotten a job and left

#

rip

dusty frost
vital meteor
#

I was surprised he just kept on going KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

#

Yea don't read WHYYY

tardy geode
dusty frost
dusty frost
#

they dont need to know that till they hire u and offer u relocation

#

or unless they ask for it in like their fill in ur info boxes

tardy geode
#

oh

#

where is the September surge

#

linkedin dry af toda

ornate cliff
rain patio
swift falcon
#

linkedin seriously needs a 'block company' function

raven warren
tardy geode
#

do you guys apply to reposted jobs ?

swift falcon
#

yeah, but I don't expect anything out of them

#

honestly it doesn't seem to make a difference, early applicant, top applicant, moderate applicant numbers, 2 weeks old, 5 months old and reposted for the 18th time

#

it's a crap shoot

solemn spire
bold pier
oblique harbor
#

After MONTHS of nothing but rejection emails, I finally got my first interview request today (technically second but the first one was for an unpaid job so that doesn't really count). So happy

swift falcon
#

#SeptemberSurge!

slow owl
#

Anyone having luck with applying to new grad apps rn as a December 22 grad??

raven warren
oblique harbor
#

In this job market, that's better than nothing

swift falcon
#

what exactly is a referral

#

is it like "refer me to hiring manager"

#

or is it like "I endorse this person as a candidate for this position"

shrewd juniper
#

I think second one

#

And it's better since someone u know is endorsing this candidate

swift falcon
#

so usually you want to target a position and be like "can you give me a referral for this position"

solemn spire
tardy geode
#

dumb question but , is CSS a language or a framework ?

#

not sure under which to list it in my resume

dusty frost
#

you can just put it under language

#

i guess is the closest

#

tbh, i don't feel you need to put CSS if you have anything web dev related

#

(like most ppl will just assume its there)

#

unless u got some like tailwind / shadcn stuff or something lol

tardy geode
#

just for keywords

narrow harbor
swift falcon
#

is it worth reaching out with a conneciton request to a "technology recruiter" if I applied for a position at the company already? I want to say something like "Hey I applied for position R99999, I was hoping to connect and get some information on the position."

swift falcon
narrow harbor
tardy geode
#

that coderquad ?

narrow harbor
#

do i come off as a cracked dec 23

narrow harbor
#

with other candidates at this time

slow owl
#

Did they tell u why or mention grad date?

narrow harbor
#

I've had a couple that rejected me based on grad date

#

I'm pretty sure the companies that did are the ones that have a specified graduate date

pliant jacinth
#

Is it good or bad that I’m the last person in my unpaid internship

#

Out of 5

ornate cliff
#

Damn so many internships opening up

#

Where are the new grad jobs 😭

swift falcon
#

or for me

#

or for anyone here

#

we’re the isle of misfit toys

tardy geode
#

idk what to do as an international , so my current firm is a fking sweatshop(they don't sponsor) and pay is like intern pay in HCOL. its a fucking mess , 24x7 people are working extreme micromanagement , also i see there is hardly any swe stuff plus people are dumb af whatever they have built is by googling things . this has taken a toll on my mental peace . I hardly get time to prep and apply . Also its 5 day rto 💀 no wfh. work is all random , i have not written a single line of code since i have started like 2-2.5 months in . they make me prepare random reports in excel OR ask me to fix ip address and shit basically stuff not even relevant to swe . Its all chaos . 9-6 then calls at 10 in the night till 12 also sometimes on weekend . I have no issues in overworking or putting in extra effort but its not even swe stuff that i am working on which would benefit me . Due to my visa situation i can't just walk away until i have something in hand since theres a 90 day limit to stay unemployed . I can volunteer though to stop the 90 day unemployment clock but then there's no pay in it (its a question between career and money)
OR
do i just go YOLO and stay at the firm, give no shit about the company and just apply and prep(consquences might be that i might get laid off or something then OR would be asked to leave)

fallen fox
#

that sounds like hell lol, honestly i would personally volunteer

bold pier
#

In both the cases startups are your best bet rn

tardy geode
#

yea i think

tardy geode
tardy geode
#

rn theres no one in this shop so i am able to apply and all

tardy geode
#

?

dusty frost
tardy geode
#

might be fired or laid off or something though 💀

dusty frost
#

And then if ur fired / laid off so be it

tardy geode
#

i see

dusty frost
#

It sounds the team is small so its more like: find something critical u can maintain / do, not related to spreadsheets.

and just focus on that id say and push back random tasks if u can

#

and then prepare to hop

#

i have friends in similar situations tbh its tough

tardy geode
#

they give me random tasks , so basically lets say theres some random xyz shit that's pending or needs to be done(90% of the time its some bs report or some random non swe issue) . everybody is worked up so that task would be given to me (no context , nothing , just do it somehow)

dusty frost
#

but i mean do what u need to do

tardy geode
#

well its been since the start so i don't feel i am set up to fail

dusty frost
#

like sometimes just gotta see is it worth the time

#

sometimes it just no reason to do it

#

And the impact is smaller than lets say u coding something else

#

tbh it just as crud said be more confrontational it a shit place anyways

tardy geode
#

basically speak up and on the face ?

dusty frost
#

but ur on visa so is hard

bold pier
dusty frost
#

Or what is the point

#

question it

tardy geode
#

things keep changing every fucking day here , that's the biggest problem

#

so rn they have given me some random fucking report with which i haven't worked with anytime and acting as if i am the expert . expecitng me to complete it in 2 fucking days

dusty frost
#

and just say hey sorry focusing on this

#

honestly startups / small companies

#

can be jokes like what ur saying

#

from when i worked at a startup was the same

#

i just ended up focusing on making their prototypes

#

which got me out of more work

#

sorry to hear tho

#

def a tough situation

forest elk
dusty frost
#

Yea if it takes longer just push back too

#

honestly startups as u said - they dont know what it means for someone to do cs

#

usually

#

(it sounfs like a startup)

#

eod ur on visa so do what u need to do

#

that def the hard part

tardy geode
#

initially i was asked to build an entier system , so i was making arch diagrams and shit . started revising react and all BUT then the ceo was like instead of you doing it why not ask X to do it they will do it right , i was like wtf . Also X is gonna make a sample app not a big ass scalable thing . THEN things went fucktons i was being given random ass tasks

#

i am just making it somehow , idk it will run or not lol

gloomy timber
#

Hey guys,
Can somebody recommend which conference is better afrotech or SHPE for CS? For full time in SWE role

tardy geode
#

yeah i do chatgpt

#

but you know you gotta explain the task or atleast give a context , these fucktards don't do that . "you figure it out and get it done" ik no one would spoonfeed but atleast tell the basic thing atleast to get started smh

#

No , i was never into BI and reporting

dusty frost
#

Yea it is hard to know, i think here just say ok: this is what ill build, this is what u can do, if u want anything else lmk otherwise this the prototype ull get

#

eventually ur the only one who knows it xD

#

Most of the time- they dont know what they want

#

tbh

#

So if they are willing to talk is great - if not - just say this is what ill do then

tardy geode
#

now he(ceo) paid 80k to X for building a sample app 💀 , he is gonna be played bad ik that but the only reason he wanted X as X's stocks are doing good and according to him if stocks are doing good then it means they are doing something right skull4k

rich prairie
#

just bombed a phone screen

#

so nervous

#

im too nervous

#

my anxiousness makes me lose focus

#

and i get really scatterbrained

tardy geode
#

you're not alone

dusty frost
rich prairie
#

no i dont stutter i just am not...concise
especially when i dont have a good answer to their question in the first place

dusty frost
#

For technical interviews / behavioral, i have a way to structure the answer

dusty frost
#

If you're just rushing to answer, small tip^

#

i teach a lot my friends to do the same so they have time to think and not just jump in. and the 2-3 bulletpoints forces u to get to the point

rich prairie
#

id love to STAR but i literally get so nervous that i dont even think
i just blurt out what my brain concocts
it's like i literally lose connection to my own body

dusty frost
rich prairie
#

like i dont even remember 75% of the conversation

dusty frost
#

Just gotta drill it

#

My friends and i, i force them to do drill conversations

#

like speech and debate / the hey can i take a pause

dusty frost
#

ull get better!

#

🙂

#

everyone starts somewhere

rich prairie
#

it's just

#

i know more things than ive done projects on

#

i understand a 2 or 3 tier webapp deployment

#

but ive never done one

dusty frost
#

Like, how would you architect xyz project, and why did you do something vs this

#

No one will validate you've done it - if you really understand it - then you can lie - if you don't really understand the nuance between different stuff then id encourage to try to build one

#

Ex. I just build a simple crud app with a google sheet as a database and its always a great conversation

#

bc im like i had a 0 dollar budget, and i needed to build somethign art students could use if something went wrong

#

for my school's app

#

so i just did a vue frontend connected to a google sheet as a database

#

something like that, and just talking through considerations of why i did that, what id do to scale, why i considered the throughput, challenges, why vue vs react, all that

#

But id say:

  1. Coding template when doing technical interviews
  2. Behavioral, come in with strong template of how to approach questions, can dm me for more details, as I can link a guide i wrote on this
  3. Practice being drilled - i legit drilled a friend till they cried (oops) but that the sort of pressure i told them they need to get used to b/c it has to be automatic. Ull get mean and nice interviewers, and ppl who are cold, and ppl who just keep asking WHY WHY WHY
rich prairie
#

it was a recruiter screen

#

explain

#

i mean obviously i wouldnt say "yeah just deploy a 3 tier webapp"
that's like
"how do i build a car"
"well first you build a car"

#

yeah

#

well lets fucking pray that i get sent to the HM

#

because i know i can do this

#

and learn effectively

#

and explain myself

#

im just a nervous wreck

#

yeah,,,,

#

ive always been like this ok
this is why i have no gf ;-;

#

😭

#

like ok

#

if someone asked me

#

actively engaged in it, for a year, feel like it hasnt helped
still go because i need to vent

swift falcon
#

1st step - be handsome

rich prairie
#

failed

dusty frost
# rich prairie actively engaged in it, for a year, feel like it hasnt helped still go because i...

Definitely, I'd say just practice drills for speaking. For ex. I have my gf / friends, just do questions and answers on like:

  • why is summer better than winter?
  • Is hw good or bad, so on
  • Eventually can be like, tell me about your project? and i ask them: why? why? what does this mean? why did you do that? can you tell me why you didn't consider this? so on.

And we ask questions back and forth, quick questions and answers for 3 minutes

#

and i just force them to talk

#

And if they fail, we go again and again

#

Its the fake it till you make it

#

and you just practice till your brain thinks on its feet

#

xD

#

nooooo

#

its bad

#

my work? hmmm... glasses

#

lol

#

I think apple killed it tbh. Its interesting cause a lot of things we solved they solved it the same way, and some ways we diverged

#

but they definitely worked on it longer

#

I think they definitely are just so well polish obvs with their design system / owning everything down to the OS.

rich prairie
#

@dusty frost@lunar sonnet
ik u guys are right
i think i just need to figure this out and find the best way to somehow get through an interview that wants project experience by somehow explaining what i know about it even if i haven't done it

dusty frost
#

Yea certainly an issue - there a lot of stuff you can do whether tracking one eye, offering different input modalities so on.

#

there are considerations like if someone is missing an arm or hands / lazy eyes/ color blind so on

#

I think most of it is like being able to offer different accessibilities feature that we have on web - and somehow figuring out how to adapt it or come up with new ones

#

definitely a hard quesiotn to solve

#

yea one day if i get chatgpt in my glasses ill be happy xD. hhh

rain patio
#

when a company makes multiple postings for the same position but at different locations do you guys just apply to them all?

rich prairie
#

hardly

dusty frost
#

or just drill lol - my friend was international and couldn't think fast / speak in english really well at first, and we just drilled till they got much faster / learned to mitigate like taking a step back, how to position themselves, best posture, how to keep calm, working on cadence, so on.

serene nymph
#

Oracle reject

paper python
#

they send emails to reject？

rich prairie
ornate cliff
#

Hello graduates how's the cope

rich prairie
#

bad

obsidian crater
#

bad

rich prairie
#

😭

obsidian crater
#

No-RO '23

#

🪢

rich prairie
#

i have no shame in admitting

#

i just lied down

#

and maybe had a tear or two

obsidian crater
#

I'm trying to go to grad school

rich prairie
#

damn

#

you're applying for NEXT year?

obsidian crater
#

But my GPA is shit so I'm copium with GRE and LoRs and my essay

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yeah

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🪢

rich prairie
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🫡

obsidian crater
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it's gonna be rough

forest elk
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some take it, some don't

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my gpa is shit so I'm gonna try to get a decent gre score

forest elk
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makes sense when I applied they didn't take it

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I'd say essay and recommendations matter mostly

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from my experience

obsidian crater
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hmm

forest elk
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because I know people with similar grades got into better schools because of a good essay

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and the course they select

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what course you thinking?

ornate cliff
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What's gre

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MSc (thesis) with a research focus in computer security/systems

ornate cliff
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I should do it too

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I don't think a lot of canadian unis take gre

forest elk