2023_grads

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-under256kb-peepo-pepe-discord-gif-22126250

[fallen fox]

[swift falcon]

everybody. has. one.

[narrow harbor]

where do you find those

[swift falcon]

it's a linkedin premium thing I think

[cold pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[torpid crown]

Wow so bachelors is in minority

[past hound]

I'd imagine most of those masters are internationals

Just going off the junior and senior classes I had with masters.

[narrow harbor]

what major is that

BS in Minority?

[past hound]

Yea

It is like that for a lot of position I see

[rain patio]

they still do for defence. The job I was offered only requires a degree and didn't say anything about experience

[past hound]

I need to find a defense company like yours

US citizen with a bs cs, needs a job

[arctic orchid]

That’s so fucked

[rain patio]

I think you have to look for smaller defense companies that aren't as well known. Might have better chances with them. Problem is that those companies probably don't have job listings on mainstream job boards like Indeed or Linkedin. The place I applied to didn't have job listings anywhere except their career page on their website.

[rain patio]

Is that LinkedIn? How much u wanna bet those masters degree holders are mostly non US citizens tho?

[past hound]

A lot of companies aren't sponsoring this season

[rain patio]

because US companies are less likely to sponsor non US citizens right now

i think those linkedin stats are worldwide

[past hound]

They also only count people who clicked the apply button

not who actually applied

[rain patio]

hmm

[past hound]

From what I have heard and seen from LinkedIn profiles, plenty of people are able to jump from defense to non-defense companies. You just don't want to stay long if you don't want to stay in defense.

[swift falcon]

at this point, I feel more optimistic that I will be able to have a successful app/website than actually get a job

no I've been working on react 😬

[obsidian crater]

🪢

I'm ngmi

[swift falcon]

i stg

[obsidian crater]

Gotta go to grad school

🪢

If SoFi reject

Big Pierre can't move

[swift falcon]

my passion is neither

[obsidian crater]

So he's stuck in Wisconsin

[swift falcon]

he knows

[obsidian crater]

0 tech jobs

🪢

[torpid crown]

They don't sponsor afaik

[swift falcon]

but I will say this @lunar sonnet , I take back what I said about dev ops

[obsidian crater]

SoFi sponsors

I got a referral from an intl NG who got RO there

[past hound]

SoFi has new grad?

[obsidian crater]

they did

[torpid crown]

Got it, my bad

[rain patio]

Is it who I think it is

if u master lagacy C++, won't that give you a really good understanding of C++ that will easily allow you to use modern C++? Modern C++ seems to have a lot fewer pitfalls than legacy C++. And don't forget that you can do learning outside the work place too

[obsidian crater]

like a week ago it was open

[swift falcon]

there is a 'systems engineer' position at a mutual company that I'd do, but they also flaunt a "switch ur career anytime while working for us" type culture

[obsidian crater]

yes

[swift falcon]

that I'd rather die

etc.

[obsidian crater]

tbh it's either SoFi, MS or rope for me

🪢

[pine topaz]

she is such a goat

i love her

[obsidian crater]

It's not yahkuna lmao

[pine topaz]

i kniw

i knoe

[rain patio]

Is it xi?

[obsidian crater]

🤫

[swift falcon]

I thought yakuna was a dude

[obsidian crater]

he is

[rain patio]

Was sofi open for 24 grads or 23?

[fallen fox]

23

[swift falcon]

oh alr

[fallen fox]

they wanted grads from last year

[obsidian crater]

@pulsar mural

[rain patio]

Ah ok I thought I fumbled the bag

[obsidian crater]

shows me your mcd order bud

yahkuna

[rain patio]

what if you learn legacy cpp on the job but in your free time learn modern cpp? Having a deep understanding of legacy cpp will also help you better understand the design decisions that went into making modern cpp. And you'll be better at avoiding pitfalls and stuff

[obsidian crater]

I probably do

I just didn't get my ead yet

USCIS being slow af

Stopping the clock is kinda pointless though

Working a shit job if I can go to grad school doesn't make sense

It's not like some shitty job is counted as YoE by big tech or whatever

[rain patio]

idk just trying to explain how I think someone with a few years of software engineering experience in defense might be able to break into big tech

well, it's been around for a while and probably won't go anywhere anytime soon

why do people still use it tho

yeah but cobol is like baby code

they still update C++ too. C++ 23 is coming out soon i think

[obsidian crater]

idk bro

this stop the clock job would be kinda embedded C++

🪢

maybe

I'm trying to get into a research MS

probably

If I do work garbo job

I will know barely anything about modern SWE

They don't implement any modern SWE practices lol

It's not

[swift falcon]

I'm going back for an associates degree

[obsidian crater]

hmm

I was considering doing that garbo job for a bit

[modest rampart]

Are you guys planning to attend any conferences?

[obsidian crater]

[heavy reef]

Wat.

DevOps?

[heavy reef]

LOL, COBOL and Fortran, let's goooo.

[rain patio]

what if you're on an embdedded swe team that uses agile?

the place I'm going to be working at does

and modern c++

well idk if it's embedded, but they do use c++

[heavy reef]

Uhhh. LOL.

I just assumed knowing AWS is part of the expectations for New Grads now.

[rain patio]

i haven't used AWS, but the website alone makes me cry lol

fr the amazon website is so ugly

what if i somehow get into HFT hehe

Jane street is offering new grads 500k base salary...

HFT seems like good money if u can get into it

[vast mica]

not true

[heavy reef]

Well, if I'm roping either way, I'd rather rope with money in the bank I can leave to family. LOL.

[obsidian crater]

it's rope

joe ver for me fr fr

I need to become AI

Become AI researcher

Only way

unlucky market really

not much I can do

If I grind CP I can probably still make an ACM ICPC appearance before I'm too old

🪢

It's Joe Ver sir

Only got 2-3 companies now I'm waiting on

SoFi, Caterpillar (2024NG) and Blackrock (2024NG)

[heavy reef]

Bruh, I feel like to grind CP.

[obsidian crater]

eh entry level no jobs is the same as recession/no recession

[heavy reef]

You have to really enjoy it.

I'd rather get my PhD in Philosophy.

I respect those who have the big brain and C++ knowledge though.

RIPPPP./

We're all roping together.

[obsidian crater]

yes

[heavy reef]

Let's all just work at McDonald's.

LOOOL.

[past hound]

I'd honestly just rope before then

[obsidian crater]

US citizens can't rope

It's like being given Willy Wonka's golden ticket

[fallen fox]

worth putting an unrelated job to cover a 8 month gap?

[swift falcon]

pfft we're gatekeeping roping now?

[obsidian crater]

yes

if I was born in the US I'd be quant fr

[narrow harbor]

don't see why not?

[fallen fox]

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-jennifer-lawrence-the-mocking-jay-the-hunger-games-katniss-gif-5415223

[narrow harbor]

if i graduated a couple years ago i'd have a job

the biggest lie i tell myself

[obsidian crater]

I don't really think so

[heavy reef]

Bruh, if you think about it.

[obsidian crater]

Amazon and other peeps were hiring mad in 2021 early 2022

[heavy reef]

LeetCode only became a thing in like the 2015s.

[obsidian crater]

literally everyone I know got a job in 2021-2022

[rich prairie]

literally missed the boat by a year

unreal

such bs

[heavy reef]

Sadge.

[obsidian crater]

All of my friends who got jobs weren't anything special, they didnt know Elasticsearch, they didn't create anything at scale, they didn't go to top unis or anything

One of them didn't even finish blind 75 lol

Only one of them got laid off

Perhaps the past 2 years were an extreme anomaly

Times like those will not return again

[swift falcon]

someone please make the pain go away

[narrow harbor]

gg

[pine topaz]

yeah i knew peopel with 0 itnernships who got jobs no problemo in 2021

[rain patio]

neither did i lol

[arctic orchid]

Fuck it we ball

[rain patio]

what's that date for?

[obsidian crater]

None of these people I refer to went to campus recruiting

[heavy reef]

Fucking hell, forget about Blind75.

[swift falcon]

still waiting to hear back from this job

[heavy reef]

If you could reverse a Linked List, you're like in.

LOL.

[arctic orchid]

Campus recruiting is a load of shit

They just make you apply online with everyone else

[rain patio]

bruh

[rich prairie]

yep\

[arctic orchid]

At least in my experience

[rich prairie]

SCAN THIS QR

[swift falcon]

September 21st is my campus job fair, so like gonna go to that tbh

[rain patio]

yeah might as well

[swift falcon]

if I don't get anything from that

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-hank-hank-hill-water-hose-shoot-me-gif-3699665

[arctic orchid]

COVID destroyed the original job fair

[heavy reef]

I'm going to my campus job fair even though I'm an alumni.

[arctic orchid]

Everything’s connections now

Time to cringe max

Linkedln max

[heavy reef]

Yeah, referrals are honestly the way to go.

[rich prairie]

is it really just cold calling DMs on linkedin now

God save us

[bold pier]

Today I was running late to a interview and saw a hungry dog

[heavy reef]

LOL, I'm doing Hackathons too.

[arctic orchid]

I was thinking of going to other universities

For campus job fair lol

Like UCLA or soem shit

[heavy reef]

I think you have to register for them most of the time, but security prob lax.

[swift falcon]

pwease may i have jowb mista weecwooter pwease pwease pwease

[rich prairie]

i want to do that

[bold pier]

I stopped and gave him treats because he looked homeless

[bold pier]

When I reached the office I found that the dog was the CTO.

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/stabbed-american-psycho-homeless-gif-15293286

[bold pier]

Always be kind. Please like share and subscribe. Comment if you agree.

[arctic orchid]

I’ve had a lot of success with that tbh

But its def a numbers game

[swift falcon]

define success

like you got a job?

[arctic orchid]

Referrals

[pine topaz]

My pain is constant and sharp, and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape

[arctic orchid]

We’ll no

[bold pier]

Bro sleep

[arctic orchid]

But I had zoom calls, a little bit of mentorship

Some people directed me to other colleagues of theres

It’s def worth the time

I wouldn’t count it out

[swift falcon]

actually, I think my career office suggested hitting up alumns for a 'whats ur day in the life at ur job like (totally not asking for a job)'

so perhaps you're on to something

[arctic orchid]

Tbh you do have hype them up in your message

But most people when they read it out willing to help

Now and days yeah probably

Seems like there’s always a guy more qualified

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/essp-enderblitz-galahad-slumber-party-why-isnt-it-possible-gif-25649259

[heavy reef]

I wish I could let employees know somehow I'm willing to fucking throw my entire WLB out the window if it meant they gave me a job.

I have nothing to lose and nothing to live for.

HIRE ME!

[arctic orchid]

I feel like now especially at entry level people have pretty decent skills on paper and exposure to a lot of the stuff required in those posts

[heavy reef]

Yeah, but there are so many goddamn requirements.

[arctic orchid]

Never do that

[heavy reef]

I want to make a real impact or do something real.

[arctic orchid]

It makes you sound desperate first of all

[heavy reef]

I am.

[arctic orchid]

Yes

But like dating

[heavy reef]

I am not joking when I say I have nothing to live for.

[arctic orchid]

If a girl thinks your desperate

Or even senses it she won’t take you seriously

[heavy reef]

LOOOL.

[arctic orchid]

Same thing with jobs and interviewing

[heavy reef]

I definitely wouldn't be bringing that kinda attitude into my jobs or interviewing.

Just venting here.

[arctic orchid]

No i feel you

Shit sucks

[heavy reef]

I mean, comparison is the thief of joy.

[arctic orchid]

But yeah anytime I’ve acted desperate it’s never helped me

[heavy reef]

Yeah, I was told to grind it out in the interview, I no longer believe that advice.

Opportunities are so little you cannot afford to do that anymore.

[arctic orchid]

Ok we’ll that’s a little different

Like rental?

Ok yeah def different

I could definitely be wrong but

[obsidian crater]

I give up tbh ngmi

[heavy reef]

Yeah, sure, if that expectation wasn't like 100000x in addition to LeetCode.

[obsidian crater]

Just gonna 🪢

[arctic orchid]

In my experience the parallels in job hunt and dating

[heavy reef]

Location and time, lmk.

[arctic orchid]

Are almost identical

[swift falcon]

I just want to eat my feelings rn

[arctic orchid]

In soooo many ways

[heavy reef]

LMAOOOOO.

Idk, Zhangster.

[past hound]

I agree

[rich prairie]

imo disagree, lots of interviews now care about useless OA or Algos that only exist to thin the herd

[obsidian crater]

Dating and jobs are kinda the same

[rich prairie]

i say useless in the sense of unnecssarily difficult and only intended to thin applicant group

[obsidian crater]

Except jobs are something you need

dating not really

[heavy reef]

They gotta thin the herd cause too many people are trying to go for jobs with no proven skills and they ain't got the time to go through each resume hollistically.

[rain patio]

we need love to be healthy tho

[arctic orchid]

I don’t want get banned

[rich prairie]

yes

[obsidian crater]

Are you baysed?

[rain patio]

didn't some study say people need 20 hugs a day to be healthy lol. I don't think i've gotten that many hugs outside of direct family total in my whole life

[past hound]

Love isn't a physical need, but it is a psychological need.

[obsidian crater]

Who said I'm healthy

[arctic orchid]

There’s not really a delicate way to put it so I’m not gonna go there

[heavy reef]

LMAO, how about 0 from direct family too.

[rich prairie]

agree to disagree i guess
seen plenty of people get some rediculous LC OA problems on Jr and NG applicants

[obsidian crater]

Other server

[heavy reef]

LeetCode is a psychological need.

[arctic orchid]

I love auto OAs gives me hope 🥲

[pine topaz]

Guys, all my roomates are gone, im living alone, there is someone, I hear 2 people takign outside in our living room. Idk if its a janitor or im gonna get mugged. do i go out

[heavy reef]

Just go out.

Life is short and inconsequential, just like this job market.

[swift falcon]

yes

let us know what happens

[pine topaz]

:i dont have a gun

💀

why would a janitor walk in at 1am though

💀

[swift falcon]

to clean

[heavy reef]

Uh, can you hear what they're saying.

[pine topaz]

theyre speaking in spanish

💀

[swift falcon]

damn ur fucked

[arctic orchid]

Life is hella short

[swift falcon]

play someo creepy music or sth

[bold pier]

Go out butt naked, if they try something just start jerking off

[pine topaz]

i think its janitors, aint no way its a hobo trying to mug me

[arctic orchid]

This kid I met in college

[pine topaz]

brb leme check

💀

[heavy reef]

LMAOOOO.

[arctic orchid]

Recently passed away

Crazy freak accident

[pine topaz]

but why would ther ebe janitors cleaning my room at 1am

[heavy reef]

Uhh...

[pine topaz]

WTF

[bold pier]

RIP

[swift falcon]

maybe they think you're not there

[bold pier]

Matada was a nice person

[heavy reef]

Smelly CS majors?

[bold pier]

Too bad he died without a job

[pine topaz]

oh I hear vaccums now

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader-gif-25578784

[pine topaz]

its janiotrs

[arctic orchid]

He died on the job

[pine topaz]

thats so weird...

[swift falcon]

how do you know?

maybe they're gonna vacuum you up

[bold pier]

Wtf

[pine topaz]

[arctic orchid]

Yell from your room

[past hound]

You didn't lock your doors?

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502

[bold pier]

Guys there's this girl outside

[pine topaz]

no

💀

[bold pier]

She's wearing white

Her legs look a bit crooked

[pine topaz]

its a safe neighborhood so we dont eexpect any1 abrgining in

💀

[bold pier]

That's how they get you

[swift falcon]

i'm confused, doy ou live in a dorm or sth?

[obsidian crater]

ropium

[pine topaz]

I live enar my campus area

[arctic orchid]

“HELLLOOOOO”

[swift falcon]

like in an apartment?

[pine topaz]

yeah

[swift falcon]

you have janitors?

[pine topaz]

yeah they clean hallways though

[bold pier]

Our guy is loaded

[pine topaz]

i didnt know they would barge into our room

livign room

💀

[swift falcon]

idk man that's sus

[pine topaz]

at 1am too

[arctic orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-bowser-junior-who-goes-there-whos-there-pillow-fort-gif-25995281

[pine topaz]

its alright, i hear em cleaning

scared me

💀

[swift falcon]

get ur katana and go out there

[arctic orchid]

I had my apartment broken into while in college

[bold pier]

I would still recommend sleeping butt naked in case they jump you later

[arctic orchid]

Horryifing

[swift falcon]

defend your territory from intruders

[pine topaz]

howwww

[arctic orchid]

It’s a crazy story

[pine topaz]

mayeb that wil chagne their mind...

[arctic orchid]

That wouldn’t translate well on discord messaging

[rich prairie]

does it really count as sleeping naked if you are gripping a shotgun

[swift falcon]

I have a shotgun under my bed

[heavy reef]

LMAO.

[swift falcon]

everynight I go to sleep paranoid

I gave away a couch to some tweakers today - paranoid they'll come back and try to burgle me tbh

[pine topaz]

I went out and said hi

they were nice guys

whew

[swift falcon]

nice

it was two chicks

one of them had the gnarliest feet on a chick I've ever seen

[obsidian crater]

wtf

[swift falcon]

it took everything in me not to visibly recoil

[obsidian crater]

haram chat

[swift falcon]

before you take this all wrong

she was up in the truck bed while I lifted the couch into it

and she was wearing flip flops

[obsidian crater]

sus

[swift falcon]

anyways

the big toe was like gangrene

it was at that point I wanted them to just take the couch and gtfo my property

probalby gonna flip it for like $20 bucks but idgaf tbh

[bold pier]

[rain patio]

Is the bjp haram?

[swift falcon]

you know I gotta sleep with one eye open

so far I've been unsuccesful

[bold pier]

Bjp is not real

[rain patio]

Well I'm officially a bjp member

So I guess I'm not real

[obsidian crater]

no

[bold pier]

Marines training is just - pew pew pew pew

[obsidian crater]

are you a cow defender @rain patio

[swift falcon]

no you're thinking of sleep deprivation

[rain patio]

Yes

We 🌬️ up McDonald's tomorrow

[obsidian crater]

marines basic is where you get yelled at and told to run and called worthless by a bunch of men

[bold pier]

And I'm telling you, this MF on the back is nawt realll

[bold pier]

If this was a woman men would be paying to join marines

[rain patio]

Deadass bring the bjp to usa

And we end obesity

True

At least no mcdonalds

Idk man

[bold pier]

She saw the number of new jobs in September

[rain patio]

The bjp supporters I know are jacked af Punjabi dudes

[arctic orchid]

Is that bjp

[rain patio]

Yes

[arctic orchid]

Interesting

[rain patio]

Idk

[bold pier]

lmao they don't eat meat but supply it to the entire world

[rain patio]

But again the only Brazilian I know turned out to be a bolsanaro suppodter

[obsidian crater]

mcdonald's raid

[bold pier]

Whenever I'm not sure I just watch a John Oliver episode on the person

[rain patio]

Yee

[bold pier]

I went to a John Oliver recording this march, the waiting time is longer than the actual recording ffs

[rain patio]

It's hilarious because he was telling us that bolsanaro was awesome

And some of the girls in our group were straight up disgusted

Idk

[heavy reef]

GHC database.

92 jobs.

LOOOL.

[past hound]

Probably the number of postings

Still super fucking low

[arctic orchid]

This is so fucked

[arctic orchid]

Yeah probably job posting not headcount

But that probably includes internships

[swift falcon]

damn we're fucked (what is GHC?)

[signal jewel]

92? wtf?

[gleaming trellis]

Each of those 92 jobs hires 44662 / 92 = 486 candidates. Everyone is happy!

[signal jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[gleaming trellis]

better change your pronouns on your badge before going in

Watch the bulls fight

Jerry Springer show

[arctic orchid]

Is it inperson

[swift falcon]

yea honestly this is the correct take

it's like "thoughts and prayers"

[signal jewel]

where did you find this?

[arctic orchid]

Getting a job rn is like getting into a party

[heavy reef]

Go to their resume database site.

[arctic orchid]

If you can’t get in thru the front

[swift falcon]

or maybe they're secretly jsut trying to poach the odd talent

[signal jewel]

promote

[arctic orchid]

You gotta hop the side gate

[heavy reef]

https://careercenter.anitab.org/

[obsidian crater]

joe ver

[swift falcon]

are you allowed to use that site if you're a dude?

[heavy reef]

Yeah, you can.

Not like it's advised though.

[swift falcon]

does it show normal jobs or ones with specific gender reqs

if that’s even a thing

[heavy reef]

Uh, idk, when I looked, it showed normal jobs.

I don't see anything that required a gender.

[swift falcon]

nvm thats illegal anyways

[rain patio]

wasn't there a job posting for tesla or space X that specifically required you to be a woman for some kind of office job lol. Bet Musk requested that specifically....you know how he is with female workers 💀

[willow sedge]

ayo?

bruh it costs money to go??

that’s messed up

who wants to pay that much lmao

damn

[signal jewel]

scholorship bro scholorship

[willow sedge]

i’m all for using my gender to get me a job but damn

[swift falcon]

damn only 5 hits in my area and all internships

[signal jewel]

colleges sponsor

[heavy reef]

GHC is literally pay to win.

[swift falcon]

wait so were there times when the number of position’s was closer to the headcount?

like realistically like 50k job seekers to 10k jobs?

[heavy reef]

Probably.

Idk.

[willow sedge]

it’s in florida lmao that’s kinda ironic

[heavy reef]

I just learned about GHC not long ago.

[swift falcon]

well

72k jobseekers

they’re all sweating hard on linkedin too i’m sure

[willow sedge]

i’m in a women’s group from some tech award i won back in highschool

and they don’t have a fee lmao

[swift falcon]

wait rewind, do you have to be a woman to attend ghc as a jobseeker?

or is that not a thing either?

[willow sedge]

a lot of people are

i couldn’t go even if i had the money to lol i’m going to a festival that weekend

[swift falcon]

oh and it’s virtual right? that’s why numbers are insane

[heavy reef]

You do not have to be a woman to attend, but it do be kinda weird going to a conference specifically for women as a man.

No, it's both.

[swift falcon]

k but its not 72k ppl attending in person

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-you-played-yourself-gif-23667349

[tardy geode]

this every company rn after applying

[willow sedge]

holy shit they are making a ridiculous amount of money

[heavy reef]

Idk man.

But it's pay to win.

[willow sedge]

if everyone is a education online attendee they are pulling in 15mil

[swift falcon]

someone needs to make a national registry of SWEs so we can get some solid mf numbers on this shit

[willow sedge]

and that’s the lowest people could pay

[willow sedge]

that seems secure

[swift falcon]

all it needs is a verifiable name, education level and current employment status

[tardy geode]

649$ for virtual 💀

wtf

[swift falcon]

then we can truly see

[swift falcon]

total scam

[tardy geode]

ik

would rather apply free on linkedin

[swift falcon]

just taking advantage of desperate ppl

[tardy geode]

its way too much smh

yeah

[willow sedge]

taking advantage of women tbh

[tardy geode]

people are deluded that GHC gets you a job , yes thats true but NOT all of em get it

[willow sedge]

who already deal with enough shit lmao

[heavy reef]

Ofc.

[swift falcon]

there are local conferences that get shilled by recruiters im connected to in linked in, I looked up like tickets because I was naïvely interested and was like no fuxking way im paying that to maybe get some facetime with some ppl

[heavy reef]

I mean you gotta qualify still as an SWE.

[swift falcon]

and possibly get a job

[heavy reef]

The possibility is enough though.

I was almost desperate enough to go to GHC too, but I don't have that kinda fuck you money in my bank account.

[tardy geode]

is it true that women get lot of interviews as compared to men and also the bar is less as they come under diversity hiring

[heavy reef]

I don't think so tbh.

[willow sedge]

idk tbh because personally i think we also get more rejects too

[heavy reef]

You still need to be a good SWE and pass OAs and shit.

[tardy geode]

companies are doing firings afaik

just read that a SDE 3 at amazon got pip'd

wtf 💀

[willow sedge]

damn

[tardy geode]

SDE 3 and pip 💀

[willow sedge]

tbh you gotta imagine some of these people getting fired don’t do shit

[tardy geode]

how come sde 3 , those are like ace engineers

[tardy geode]

they get 500k tc

[heavy reef]

Bruh, let's be real.

[willow sedge]

yeah but some swe lack social skills

[bold pier]

Be Real. Everyone smileeeee

[heavy reef]

High schoolers can do a lot of what a SWE does.

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cakeuis-dj-khaled-gif-24296363

[heavy reef]

Just need someone willing to learn and is self-motivated and pro-active.

[tardy geode]

just need a gf

[bold pier]

ngmi

[heavy reef]

That ain't going to do shit.

[tardy geode]

maybe thats easier to get than a job in these times

[tardy geode]

ngmi ?

https://tenor.com/view/rakeitoop-rokeitup-dj-khaled-surf-gif-21792750

people on their way to GHC

[bold pier]

https://tenor.com/view/ridewithp-gif-21507260

[heavy reef]

Naw.

LOL.

[tardy geode]

they didn't believe in us

[bold pier]

BUT GOD DID

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-appreciate-you-gif-21143481

[bold pier]

https://tenor.com/view/another-one-dj-khaled-khaled-another-you-da-best-gif-16232853

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-you-played-yourself-gif-23667349

[bold pier]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-gif-24713013

this this job, and feed your family

take another job, and buy yo mama a house

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-extreme-dance-moment-gif-26084674

[rain patio]

tf is GHC?

[shut thistle]

[solemn spire]

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[grizzled bronze]

new honeywell role popped up https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3702008133

[tardy geode]

wtf is that job title

[tardy geode]

job fair for women

[ornate cliff]

Grace Hopper Conference

[fiery maple]

Hey

What if we fake the transcript

Does the recruiter trace every candidate’s transcript

[pulsar cloud]

just pretend you work at a company and show up one day

[vague furnace]

Don’t do it lol

[bold pier]

Do transphobes believe in transcripts?

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[grizzled bronze]

you'll get offer rescinded during background check, that info is very easily verifiable

[swift falcon]

4 days until you start the rest of your life

https://tenor.com/view/officer-doofy-scary-movie-reporting-salute-gif-6038641

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[bold pier]

https://tenor.com/view/anxiety-gif-18811591

[hardy cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/remember-wagmi-gif-24067442

[solemn spire]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-welcome-to-the-failure-gif-24563965

[ornate cliff]

Is tiktok hiring ng? Can't find link

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[ornate cliff]

[vital meteor]

From nuwin he has a referral link

Not sure if referral helps for tiktok though

[ornate cliff]

From what

[tacit grove]

Meaning you can get it "from Nuwin(server member - just do @ then Nuwin )" the referral link

[pure mauve]

Yup just apply to link for new grad

[ornate cliff]

thank you mr nuwin

[valid flame]

u a real one for this even though theres no shot imma get it

[tardy geode]

btw does anyone use google docs for their resume ?

[past hound]

LaTex

[swift falcon]

another week

another fresh start

[past hound]

Like this week is gonna be any different

[swift falcon]

the rng i googled said I was going to get 1 job offer this week

[tardy geode]

Google docs or word ? i found google docs easier and its easy to maintain versions

[swift falcon]

i use word

but I paid $250 for mine so it's all formatted nicely

i just tweak it a bit

[tardy geode]

got 2 calls using google docs resume (i downloaded it as PDF and applied)

so i see some progress which made me happy

[swift falcon]

was that like immediate?

[tardy geode]

like one was benchling , my resume got picked up for recruiter call

[zealous canyon]

is this out? will there be a way to see this before we submit the application

[tardy geode]

man that day i shed a tear

that my resume is working a bit

otherwise i was just getting rejected left and right

that call gave me a hope and motivated to push more

[swift falcon]

i guess my question is, was that a new development or did it happen like a month ago and now you're still waiting

[tardy geode]

wdy,

*wdym

[swift falcon]

when did you make the switch

[tardy geode]

so 3 weeks back i overhauled my resume , like entire overhaul even the format . stopped using word . made it in google docs and downloaded it as PDF and started applying using that resume . and after a week of changing i got a call for benchling

so there was something that did work

[swift falcon]

oh ok, care to share the template?

[tardy geode]

also i am noticing even if i get a reject(with this resume) its not just after a day or two of applying . its like a week or 10 days . before that i used to get rejected in a day or two . idk if this is a progress

but maybe its about luck too , maybe

[solemn spire]

So how was your resume different from before and now? Was it before of file extension or you have a good format now? @tardy geode

[swift falcon]

pls elaborate

[rain patio]

U don’t use latex?

or Jake’s Resume?

[tardy geode]

mostly the format , i was using flowcv io before

[tardy geode]

no as my contents don't fit and i don't know latex properly so i struggle even doing the slightest customization

[narrow harbor]

can't wait till we all make it

[tardy geode]

oh where ?

[swift falcon]

one of the ocmpanies advertised on reddit

on the r/resume or some shit

which in hindsight has to be somesort of scam lol

[swift falcon]

amen pray god

[chilly burrow]

Just learn

[wet jacinth]

prayers don't work. I tried.

[chilly burrow]

Mayb not scam, but def a ripoff

[bold pier]

This mindset will fix any problem in your life, 100% recommended

[shut crescent]

u know how to code but still paid $250?

[willow sedge]

i’m legit gonna make a database project just so i can map out stuff for animal crossing better lmao

[pastel bane]

I find a lot of times it is quite difficult for me to understand a project unless I execute it line by line in the IDE

[crisp agate]

Hello people, how is the market looking for new grads?

[ornate cliff]

I'm transitioning into sanitation services

[narrow harbor]

great so far, lots of people here getting offers from Epic, Stripe, Cisco etc

lots of job apps open

many people getting interviews

it's an amazing time to be cs new grad

lots of tech rounds are just simple questions like iterate through an array, describe a linked list etc

people here getting minimum 200k tc with upwards to 500k

[halcyon topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-spin-spinning-t-pose-meme-gif-23836943

[solemn spire]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-triggered-stress-gif-21242414

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[tardy geode]

do you guys apply to reposted jobs ?

[signal jewel]

leave no stone unturned

[tardy geode]

i only see staffing and recruiting companies post sde roles , software engineer-united states-past 24h

[torpid crown]

What is the difference between standard and reposted positions? I apply to all of them, idk about the difference

[torpid crown]

Worse than last July/Aug

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[nova falcon]

any idea on tiktok interview process?

how many rounds?

[shut thistle]

did you complete the OA?

[nova falcon]

I got OA

[wet jacinth]

2024 new grad?

[nova falcon]

yes

[wet jacinth]

do you remember when you applied?

[nova falcon]

i applied and got OA

not sure abt dates

[nova falcon]

can you give me more insight abt OA?

[tacit grove]

for tiktok? when did you apply?

[autumn iris]

Pretty sure its 5-6 usually

Tiktok OA is usually 2-3 hards

My roommate had it

[bold pier]

Just like me fr

[willow sedge]

i got a list of questions to respond to for a job so? semi interview lmao

oop. it’s a small company so i hope they wouldn’t do that

[tacit grove]

anything open up today?

[swift falcon]

should I send one last follow up email out to the hiring manager that screened me?

or just let it go

I think 3 weeks out I'm as good as ghosted at this point

if they wanted to they would

[tacit grove]

still definitely follow-up

[solemn spire]

Yea follow up once more. If no reply at the end of the week then follow up saying I never wanted to work here you ugly anyway

[swift falcon]

Hi <Hiring Manager>,

I just wanted to check-in with you and let you know I am still interested in this position. I'd love to have the opportunity to meet with you again for a more in-depth interview.

Regards,
<big pierre>

is the second sentence worth it

or scrap and rework

[hazy horizon]

Does anyone know what the TikTok MLE new grad OA is like? Is it different from the SWE one

[narrow harbor]

follow up nothing to lose

maybe say in like one sentence why you'd be a good candidate

[swift falcon]

I was wondering if you had any updates you could share with me?

[swift falcon]

honestly I did that in my first follow up

should I repeat?

[narrow harbor]

maybe not I guess, i think your template is good

send that bitch

[swift falcon]

ok sent 🙏

hail mary

[willow sedge]

anyone here good at sql? im stuck on a problem

[jovial cipher]

Hey is there a group / channel for pm roles?

[tacit grove]

Did everyone get TikTok's OAs? Is this for 2024? I still havent received any OA

[willow sedge]

i msged you

[wet jacinth]

The org I interned for told me today that there's no possibility of hire for the rest of this year. Previously they had said that there was a possibility that they could hire me in September. That was my only hope.

[obsidian crater]

🪢

[wet jacinth]

I have no freakin clue what to do now.

[obsidian crater]

drug dealing

[raw plank]

Start taking care of your feet

That market is booming

[rich prairie]

feel u pain tbh, my internship just eneded

[wet jacinth]

I wish I could. I'm international.

[rich prairie]

https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED930/61d0d4682f827.jpeg

[wet jacinth]

no one wants to hire people with 0 yoe.

I haven't had a single interview since Feb. Not even a recruiter call.

[narrow harbor]

are you going for just swe specifically

[obsidian crater]

It's so Joe Ver

[wet jacinth]

May

[wet jacinth]

Yea

[solemn spire]

Time to learn about crops

[rain patio]

As a fellow May 2023 grad, the only advice I can give is to try to apply to local defense companies. Problem is that they may be harder to find online, and you have to apply directly on their website for positions

But the fact that they are harder to find online might be a good thing since there's less competition

[wet jacinth]

I'm international

[rain patio]

Oh mega rip 😭

[vast mica]

can we may 2023 grad apply tp netflix new grad?

[cloud zinc]

Had a call from an indeed application. Unfortunately, it was for a contract gig instead of a full time position.

[wet jacinth]

We can. They'll probably not consider us because of grad date. The posting says: 'an expected graduation date around Spring/Summer 2024'

[autumn iris]

didnt ur opt start

[cloud zinc]

Remember when "full-time" meant something

[wet jacinth]

yes

[autumn iris]

how many days do u even have left to find a job

[wet jacinth]

Aug 8 + 90 days

[rain patio]

Remember when you only needed to know how to write a hello world program in order to be hired on the spot?

[autumn iris]

so never

[wet jacinth]

Now you can't get hired with 950 LC

[autumn iris]

i mean it only became hard cause of covid

[rain patio]

Me neither, but I bet things were like that in the early 2000s

[autumn iris]

before covid the amount of graduates : new grads was okayish

but covid made everyone enroll in CS/bootcamps

[gleaming trellis]

One of the ppl I know who graduated in 2002 took 8 months to find a job of his major

[rain patio]

Our only hope is to start a misinformation campaign that discourages people from going into software

Gotta spam tiktok with "day in the life of a cs new grad"

[gleaming trellis]

Do you think right now is worse or in 2002?

[autumn iris]

it was just different conditions

[rain patio]

Based on a recent article that I read, the market is worse than 2008 was for software, but better than 2002

[autumn iris]

its harder now because standard has changed+ theres a way bigger supply of candidates

[gleaming trellis]

What about in 2002 then?

[autumn iris]

also u have to consider wages

[grizzled bronze]

I'm getting rejected from Netflix soon

with an expected graduation date around Spring/Summer 2024

[autumn iris]

back then, the wages was just to get a job in general

its was just a matter of being employed

even if it was minimum wage

[obsidian crater]

It's Joe Ver

[rain patio]

2002 was some kind of crash that mostly affected the tech industry, while 2008 affected the real estate industry and banks primarily

I think

[vast mica]

does netflix requires transcript also?

[autumn iris]

prob

wouldnt be surprised if they asked for it

[delicate lantern]

Hey for the Roblox new grad did you guys have 4 questions or 2 bc I had only 2

[light oxide]

How long did it take for tiktok to send OA?

[tacit grove]

no

[tacit grove]

which position did you apply to?

[light oxide]

Software Engineer in test, university grad 2023

[tacit grove]

@gentle peak How is the search going for you? anything lined up?

[dire sage]

what companies told interns no return offers so far?

[wet jacinth]

Let's do something about the damn war in Ukraine

[tacit grove]

nothing yet either

[vital meteor]

everyone had 2

[rotund portal]

if you're talking about the codesignal it's 2 questions but it was the #3 and #4 from last years set of 4

anyone that got OA for stripe, when did you apply

[delicate lantern]

Stripe new grad or intern?

[rotund portal]

new grad

[delicate lantern]

I didn’t get the oa, you got it?

[rotund portal]

no i didn't get it. i heard that people got them on like the 25th so was curious when they applied

[delicate lantern]

I applied the 21st you?

And for the Roblox assessment I got 310 what’s the chance i get in 😭

1 fully right and then the other I got like 1 test case

[vital meteor]

about 0

[delicate lantern]

Double damn Daniel 😭

[split plaza]

0 unfortunately

[delicate lantern]

Would you need both completely right to get in?

[split plaza]

yeah I suspect 600 is the bare minimum

[oblique harbor]

https://github.com/SimplifyJobs/2024-New-Grad-Tech-Jobs github repo with new grad postings. you're welcome

its for 2024, but i guess we count too

[rain patio]

Idk why but i really relate to this rabbit right now:

[meager latch]

lol q #ii

[serene nymph]

chatgpt is trolling me

[ornate cliff]

Wolfram plugin?

[serene nymph]

no bro, just chatgpt lol

[tacit grove]

is there a github for new-grad postings? not simplify necessarily but in general?

[ornate cliff]

Damn I didn't know it did equations like that. Anyway I don't trust it for math lol.

[serene nymph]

you have to constantly brake check it lol

[ornate cliff]

[pine topaz]

https://github.com/ReaVNaiL/New-Grad-2024

[ornate cliff]

I've been ghosted from all of them

[narrow harbor]

not even OA from Cisco?

[ornate cliff]

Oh... I didn't want to move to Ottawa so I didn't do it

I ghosted them

[pine topaz]

good decision

[ornate cliff]

I wanna go somewhere new with a new community. Ottawa been there done that.

[next sluice]

Is anyone getting interviews at all? I think I may have applied to about 50 jobs already and haven't got a single reply. I have 16 months of coop experience and idk if it helps.

[pine topaz]

its because we will have a jan 6 insurrection in 2024

makign ottawa unsafe

no

[oblique harbor]

wow thanks so much for sharing this

[bold pier]

@rain patio Why are chinchillas banned in nyc, I was looking forward to getting one

[vital meteor]

the last canadian riot was because of hockey

[bold pier]

riot and canada are oxymorons

[cold pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/renny-chinchilla-eating-gif-25665407

https://tenor.com/view/chinchilla-gif-20328268

[cold pawn]

cuz they can be mistaken for rats?

https://tenor.com/view/nyc-new-york-rat-new-york-rat-food-gif-16766632

[bold pier]

rats are hardworking citizens

[delicate lantern]

SYSTEM DESIGN FOR NEXTFLIX NEW GRAD

Also should I lie about when I graduated

I graduated May 2023, but it looks like they don’t want that

It’s like scummy if I graduated then and didn’t have clairvoyance to know my company was gonna drop me

Bro

[dense swan]

How do u guys even practice system design

[bold pier]

pen and paper

[rain patio]

ngl i like how yahkuna has been inactive from this discord lately

i respect that

[pine topaz]

i dont because her comments and messages are still unhinged

but it is a firt step towards self improvmeent i guess

[rain patio]

shes still bodyshaming me after my failed rizz attempt

[pine topaz]

she just wants the best for u

[delicate lantern]

Ya

I had my offer rescinded from the company I interned with last summer

To be a full time

[ornate cliff]

Optiver recruiter added me back on LinkedIn... How do I capitalize?

"hey I went to one of the worst schools in Canada can you give me a chance pls "

[obsidian crater]

Loo?

[ornate cliff]

I'm at 200+ apps brother... Welcome to the hunger games

[obsidian crater]

The trade school for janitors?

[ornate cliff]

No like non ironically the worst

Calgary

[obsidian crater]

Go work as a gas extractor

🪢

I thought calgary was decent

[ornate cliff]

Good one bro

[fallen fox]

Workday identifies potential duplicates based on:
First and last name – exact match
Partial match of name – first letter of first name and exact last name
Date of birth – exact match
Phone number – area code and number

[obsidian crater]

I see a few below it

https://csrankings.org/#/index?all&ca

[ornate cliff]

Oh phew

[obsidian crater]

calgary is #11 which is middle of the pack

[rain patio]

Damn I can’t alt up

Maybe alt phone number

[candid mauve]

What is this based on?

[obsidian crater]

research output

It's not the most perfect ranking measure but for MS/PhD programs definitely is

[candid mauve]

Ohh I see. Lol I was like why are some our current professor names on there

[obsidian crater]

Cause it measures their research output and impact

[candid mauve]

Top researchers in school teaching under grad

[obsidian crater]

to be fair at my uni

the profs that teach intro courses or middle level courses aren't as research heavy

they don't do as much research and mostly teach

junior/senior level all my profs are researchers on crack

[candid mauve]

Same

[obsidian crater]

NGMI

[signal jewel]

lets collaborate

gimme hopium instead of ropium

[tardy geode]

i see no jobs since past 4-5 days wtf is happening

like i put software engineer , united states and past 24h filter everyday

2 weeks before there werer shit ton of openings everyday (non ng)

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/mood-rage-screaming-internally-mood-scream-rage-gif-21120287

[willow sedge]

thoughts on salary vs hourly?

[neon perch]

I also noticed the same. I came across a few posts from recruiters on LinkedIn saying this week and the next won’t have many postings but after that it’ll be in full swing

[tardy geode]

oh i see , thanks . time to grind tf out then this week

[neon perch]

Yessir 🔥

[tardy geode]

why so though ? is it coz of long weekend

?

[autumn iris]

salary better

safer

[tardy geode]

so basically utilize this week more on prep than browsing on linkedin

[autumn iris]

hourly is most likely contract work, aka no money if no work

[willow sedge]

yeah but would you take an hourly rn

[neon perch]

Yes I believe that should be the reason, usually from the second week of September it picks up and according to statistics we’ll have the most openings during those weeks

[tardy geode]

i spend like 12 hours of my day on Linkedin

[autumn iris]

i mean watever pays the bills

[tardy geode]

mate i have no choice except to gtfo my current place

[autumn iris]

i havent started applying yet

[neon perch]

Please ffs I’m genuinely hoping things look a lot better in the next few weeks

[tardy geode]

[autumn iris]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[wet jacinth]

I'm tired of feeling so powerless and helpless. Let's hope things get better.

[heavy reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134003288900128788/1145830178912751626/image.png

When Netflix opens up and only accepts 2024 graduates despite not being open last year for 2023.

[swift falcon]

Dead in the water.

[craggy lynx]

If I have a job, should I tell the place I'm applying to about my employment? Because they might see my few months of employment as a red flag. But, I would assume that tech companies would understand our dilemma.

[gleaming trellis]

You sure it didn’t open last year?

[past hound]

Certainly don't tell your employer.

[craggy lynx]

Of course lol

[heavy reef]

Don't think so.

[bold pier]

Just signed my offer, I'm done.. I'm so much mother ducking done (for this year)

I hope y'all make it through as well soon, always happy to take Java lessons

[heavy reef]

Yooo, grats man!

Hope to be there with you soon!

[tacit grove]

I noticed the exact same thing. For the past 5 days nothing - linkedin was dry af today as well

[past hound]

Happy for you.

[tacit grove]

the issue is it takes time to schedule interviews and the rest of the process etc. I feel like another week will get wasted

[pine topaz]

WOOOO

[tacit grove]

same

[pine topaz]

did u sign with spotify @bold pier

[tacit grove]

I'm literally drained that every cell in my body is crying

[pine topaz]

con grats!!

[bold pier]

Nah, MS. Spot not safe!

[pine topaz]

nice!! whatcha mean spot not safe

[tacit grove]

I've been seeing SO MANY 2024 grad applications. Hello? What about the 2022 and 2023 grads?

[pine topaz]

@elder forum can u read

[bold pier]

They not good financially, could mean more layoffs in future

[grizzled bronze]

F5 has your back https://ffive.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/f5jobs/job/Seattle/XMLNAME-2024-University-Graduates---Software-Engineer_RP1028580

has graduated no earlier than May 2022

[pine topaz]

oh no....

[serene nymph]

Did anyone do the tiktok oa yet

[heavy reef]

Oh shit, time to apply. LOL.

[pine topaz]

2024 Q1 layoffs im calling it

[bold pier]

Where? Everywhere?

[wet jacinth]

Juz kill me, lol

[cold pawn]

Netflix ng did not open last year? I thought it did

[tardy geode]

this , on top of that i feel i would miss my first shot at H1B if this shit doesn't mend

[heavy reef]

Could have sworn I did not see it.

But maybe I'm wrong.

[tardy geode]

i am not even targeting ng roles at this point

coz of the number of people competing for it

[bold pier]

Tanks friend!!

[tardy geode]

databricks had ng roles open up last week

i saw 3k applicants the first time

and then 1.5k when it was reposted

[grizzled bronze]

ignore the numbers and just apply everywhere

[tardy geode]

on top of that i am international , shits too fucking hard

[tardy geode]

ev0s my man how u doing

bro owns NYSE

[bold pier]

Doesn't say so, but I gotta move all my existing investments to MS or ETrade( I don't have any)

I guess so

I didn't sign any non-compete though

Even if there's no dress code I'm gonna wear formals and pretend I'm a finance bro at Times Square

Wolf of Times Square

[tardy geode]

i am Wolf of unemployment

no offer, no bust only prayge

[bold pier]

You'll bust soon, don't worry

[torpid crown]

Did your opt start?

[torpid crown]

H1-B is unwinnable

So we have ~8% of getting it hah

[tardy geode]

yea

[torpid crown]

Same 😢 how many days you got remaining

[neon perch]

Wtf is this exponential growth man

It used to be so easy for internationals back then ngl

[tardy geode]

i am at a sweatshop that has stopped my clock but its unstable af so i am scoundering for jobs

[bold pier]

Didn't this cause investigations this year and lotta people withdrew their apps coz they were scams

They in fact had second round of h1b lottery this year because of the scams, some of my friends made it because of this

[somber hamlet]

Next year to the moon 1mil

[neon perch]

But seriously tho like why is there such an abrupt increase

More consultancy scams?

[swift falcon]

@bold pier woah you got an offer!?!? Is that old news or recent?

Congrats!

[bold pier]

Week old news thenks

[ornate cliff]

Jane Street?

[torpid crown]

Yeah multiple people submit 4-5 applications

[torpid crown]

Yeah but still it sucks because lots of folks dont play by the rules

[ornate cliff]

Should I apply to Netflix as a Canadian?

[bold pier]

Someday, someday

[bold pier]

Who stopping you

[ornate cliff]

my passport

[bold pier]

It's just a piece of paper, apply

[rain patio]

Congrats bruv

[serene nymph]

Did you guys get anything from disco?

I just got an email asking me to reapply lol

[vapid oasis]

do you mean cisco?

[radiant moon]

not yet

[loud sluice]

i just got that too

[willow sedge]

what comes to mind when you see this question "What are two programming concepts that you’re excited to learn more about"

like concepts like actual programming or stuff like machine learning?

hmm yeah i just dunno what i should put

[rain patio]

my friend from canada did

he didn't get in

take this as you will