2023_grads

[rain patio]

I think I make my LinkedIn post next Monday or in 2 weeks

[hollow flicker]

Just post all the time all day

LinkedIn influencer time

We didn't know this was what the future had in store but this is the cards we've been dealt

[rain patio]

idc abt the pride anymore u gotta do what u gotta do

[hollow flicker]

HELLOOO CONNECTIONS

I actually do post occasionally

So like if a recruiter looks

They'll know I'm desperate

[rain patio]

I barely get any likes 💀

[hollow flicker]

And I really LOVE LEETCODE

I get very feew

I don't careee

[rain patio]

I need to work the algorithm better

[hollow flicker]

Set and forget

Ok no

You're right

[rain patio]

cause I know ppl are looking

but I’m posting at strange times

[hollow flicker]

We need to start doing twitch streams

[rain patio]

And could phrase things better

LinkedIn is about selling a narrative

[hollow flicker]

[rain patio]

Im being too anti-cringe

Need to tap into the dweebiness

[hollow flicker]

No absolutely

I do it pretty dweeby in my posts

It hurts but it's ok

[pine topaz]

I highly recomend sliding into Xues Dms. I have received many offers afterwards.

[hollow flicker]

[vital meteor]

Link?

[past hound]

99% of LinkedIn posts are flat out cringe

[pine topaz]

No she is mine

[rain patio]

Y’all sleeping on Xue

She’s next up

Girl boss power

[hollow flicker]

Yeah I'm one upping people on cringeness

[grizzled bronze]

who is Xue

[hollow flicker]

Hey everyone!!! I love programming so much and I'm so happy!

Recently I've been doing x and it was so amazing and I really

[rain patio]

Ayo unironically though?

I was gonna ask her abt Tesla

[hollow flicker]

Is Grindr hiring?

Unironically tho

[vital meteor]

[pine topaz]

This is X

ue

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-cheeto-xqc-cheeto-cheetah-xqc-cheetah-gif-20279832

[hollow flicker]

Applied last year but they ghosted me

Grindr of all places

[pine topaz]

how about ask her out

[hollow flicker]

[rain patio]

She gonna blacklist me from industry

[pine topaz]

are you ugly

[rain patio]

She has too much clout from 40 yr old staff SWE

[rain patio]

I’m a solid 7.5 on a good day

[pine topaz]

i think ull be fine

shoot ur shot

[rain patio]

Bro I need a job not a wife 😭

[vital meteor]

You can get both from xue

[pine topaz]

she can hook u with ajob

[narrow harbor]

job will get u wife

jk

[pine topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DcinsRPR5s

Xue

[hollow flicker]

Hook you up with a wife swift

[pine topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY

Welcome to the champions club

[hollow flicker]

No not hdmi

[rain patio]

El goblino

[neon perch]

Do you guys post things on LinkedIn?

The day I get a full time swear imma black out party

[bold pier]

Imma make sure you black out even if I have to beat the shit out of you!

[neon perch]

LFGG

[rain patio]

U inviting us?

[candid gyro]

Ikr. It’s very difficult to go from boot camp to Tesla SWE

[signal jewel]

my aunt is in senior pos. she referred me. no shit. got no response after oa. i dont have the motivation to ask referral to anyone anymore

[shut crescent]

damn looks like entry DE jobs are crashing

[lost ether]

What is DE

[vital meteor]

Data Entry

[lost ether]

Oh yeah those r gonna get automated or off shored

[vital meteor]

o that makes sense

i was wondering why people here were interested in data entry

[autumn iris]

data engineer isn't crashing lol

companies always need people to manage their servers + u can't automate it due to security issues

meant cloud servers

Data engineers work in a variety of settings to build systems that collect, manage, and convert raw data into usable information for data scientists and business analysts to interpret.

idk wat we call hadoop/spark then

[vital meteor]

is Dick Engineer doing good

[sharp panther]

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Bedroom 2 - Booked by Tesla Intern (Sept to December)
Bedroom 1 - 2100$ (available from Aug 21st)
Bedroom 3 & 4 - 1900$ (available from Aug 26th & Sept 1st respectively)

You can take all 3 together too - I can give little discount in that case.

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The location ( The Willows, Menlo Park ) is highly convenient, being in close proximity to numerous tech companies and startups in Palo Alto. Moreover, it's situated just :
a brief 6-minute drive from Stanford University,
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To learn more, kindly reach out to the landlord through the provided contact details:
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[vast mica]

did anyone gave stone + quicksand terrain. its messed up

[ornate cliff]

I just wanna say FUCK hackerrank

The problem descriptions are full on essays

The inputs are annoying as fuck

And the examples are tricky for no reason

[sturdy forge]

It’s next to the best FAANG: IKEA

[exotic lintel]

Dude same

Well i guess its also part reading comprehension, similar to Amazon OA. Unlike Leetcode whose description is straightforward and concise

[tardy geode]

what does reposted in the jobs section mean on linkedin ?

like some says reposted X hours ago

[fallen fox]

means the original listing is being reposted

the original listing could be like a month old

[grizzled bronze]

Does Reposted on LinkedIn reset the applicant count?

[fallen fox]

yeah

i think so?

new feature to bait doomers

[willow sedge]

lol

[grizzled bronze]

yeah that's what it looked like, I guess it's to motivate more people to apply

[fallen fox]

"look at this new job, oh no it was posted months ago and has 5k applicants"

[tardy geode]

i got rejected by rippling in one hour

my morale and mental health has been going south , i am experiencing the worst phase of my life and my anxiety and stress levels are 24x7 off the charts

my parents don't understand me , friends think i am an issue so i have no one to talk to except to keep it to myself and get crushed inside

i never imagined i would be in such a bad phase , it has affected my confidence and self doubt has been at its peak

[polar grail]

[median raft]

@tardy geode Everything will be alright brother, just don't think about all these now, just keep working.
I am also going through same phase, i have got offer letter, but they have not given me the joining letter yet for few months now, they are ghosting me, its very difficult to just keep quite. But I am sure everything will get well soon, we just need to believe in ourself, we know what we are capable of. Stay strong brother.

[static quarry]

@tardy geode ive found working on a personal project has helped restore my faith. I felt so lost doing leetcode and applying but after working on a personal project it helped me realize why i even started this major in the first place

inshallah 🙏

[hollow flicker]

I'm doing aight

Bruh so funny. This local place gave me a hackerank

Look forward to it being ez pz baby

[marble flower]

you are not alone

[raven tusk]

heya can i get opinions on my 2 grad offers

one is for a big consultant, the role seems more flexible (i can do cybersec or infra or software dev, they seem to let me "pick" after 2 months) and the pay is 33600€/year
other is for an aviation company, pay is 36000€/year, not sure if its more reputable than the consultant but I think the culture could be a bit better and its only software dev as far as I know

these are based in europe hence the "low" salaries

the first one is a bit more sus since it was efortless to get the offer

[grizzled bronze]

do you know if that one is also hiring in the US?

[raven tusk]

just the word consultant is a red flag for me usually but the role would allow me to do cybersec or infra which i'd prefer over dev

[raven tusk]

good question lol, I'll dm you the companys name if you wanna check

[tacit grove]

Is hiring going to ACTUALLY pickup in September? Things are opening up now but they are at a same time at a standstill- it's like a greentraffic light but nothing moving

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/dace-gif-25608746

[autumn iris]

Yes otherwize career fairs are dead

The biggest career fair is first week of sept

[grizzled bronze]

No one knows for sure, but I just know more companies are launching apps later this month and next month

[autumn iris]

Usually all big Ns go to our schools career fair

Pretty doomed if they dont

When i went to the booths they told me to apply 1-2 weeks later with their referrals (recruiter info)

[tacit grove]

Are you guys getting calls? I think things are moving and hope end of Aug things will really get better

It just feels unending at this stage

[fallen fox]

Thank you for your interest in the Software Engineer position at ServiceNow. Unfortunately, while your skills and background are impressive, we have recently filled the role for which you applied.

https://tenor.com/view/dace-gif-25608746

[hollow flicker]

I got 3 OAs for my birthday woooo

im so old now

i cant believe i have a hackerrank from some tiny company, so weird.

[pine topaz]

Yup

I have sources if youd like

[tacit grove]

yup send

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[grizzled bronze]

Happy birthday!

[pine topaz]

Happs!!

[shut thistle]

it got rainbowed

[bold pier]

No 35 is not that old

[vapid oasis]

Just took the roblox oa

I feel p bad

300/600

😞

Man there just wasn’t t enough time

[tardy geode]

this is just ridiculous , Veeva called me on my cellphone to reject me

[willow sedge]

rejection tuesday ig

[hollow flicker]

yeah im also joking cuz im 24

[bold pier]

wtf is this shit, did you interview with them?

[hollow flicker]

@grizzled bronze @pine topaz

[hollow flicker]

this happened to me a couple of times last year

i was seething

like oh thanks for calling!!!

[bold pier]

some recuiters need to catch these hands fr

[hollow flicker]

yeah like actually

i get it if i came and did an onsite

but like one phone interview?

alright dude

that is psychotic

[bold pier]

Why even call, did they reach AWS SES limits for the month? or are they like really evil?

[gentle lodge]

hello again bros, so I was googling something last night and got google foobar, the transition on screen was cool, has anyone done it before?

[burnt orchid]

has anyone gone through Revature

[fallen fox]

@raw plank

[gentle lodge]

Yep haven't started it yet though... dunno what to expect, wanna see if anyone has done it to get some more info

When did you do it last?

for sure

[lost ether]

Hiring is slow this year regardless but still do well

[bold pier]

Yeah, just do what's in your hand. Leave rest to CS gods.

[gentle lodge]

how far did you get? and did someone hit you up after or nah

[grizzled bronze]

@raw plank was in the middle of some training before he got a job offer

[willow sedge]

which is great for a new grad that has very few

[rain patio]

Alright I'm praying for September. 🙏

How's the job market looking like in EU though. I know the pay is shit but I wonder what the demand looks like

[vapid oasis]

does nayone have any tips on how to get better at hackerrank oas

I feel like for some reason with leetcode I can do well

[grizzled bronze]

just today? I'm still waiting on my rejection call

[vapid oasis]

but hacker rank seems so hard for some reason

[hollow flicker]

Idk I always practice a lil hackerank

Leetcode my main but if I have a HR coming I'll doo some

New FAANG guys

It was like this last fall

[tardy geode]

NOT AT ALL

[hollow flicker]

Evil recruiters

[tardy geode]

and i was taking a shit that time , smh what a coincidence 💀

[lost ether]

Recruiters trying to look busy thats why they called u

[tardy geode]

yeah

[hollow flicker]

Makes no sense

Satan incarnate

[raw plank]

im free

[hollow flicker]

Same here

Train my dink

[grizzled bronze]

99% of these candidates don't even qualify for the role, apply anyway

[burnt orchid]

is Revature a waste of time

[cold pawn]

a waste of life

[hollow flicker]

Do you want to make 35k?

[burnt orchid]

no

[hollow flicker]

Then yes waste of time

[raw plank]

If you get placed immediately in paid training and you have no other options, do it

If they try to put you on unpaid training its really not worth but it doesn’t hurt

Right now I think they’re backed up like everyone else

[hollow flicker]

How much do they actually pay

Like if you're good

[raw plank]

Like 14/hr or smth

[hollow flicker]

you are kidding

[raw plank]

Probably lower for lcol areas

[hollow flicker]

like if youre good??

they pay you that for SWE?

hahaha

[raw plank]

I’m talking about the training portion

[hollow flicker]

ohhh

ohhh

ok im saying after, like whats the avg

[polar grail]

60k-70k I believe

[raw plank]

Depends on the job, but somewhere from 45-60k

[hollow flicker]

yeah seems right

[raw plank]

70k?

[hollow flicker]

i doubt doubt 70k lol

ain no way thats typical at the least

[polar grail]

Well cognizant the witch company offer 70k

[hollow flicker]

reva is like notoriously worse ive heard

ik this place in MI does 55-65

[raw plank]

I think that’s best case scenario but rare

[polar grail]

But they pay u by monthly pay check

[rain patio]

I got offered 65k by TCS the other day that’s prob right

[hollow flicker]

WITCH is slept onnn

Me when i take the OOP reva exam

[lost ether]

Witch better than revature types right?

[hollow flicker]

yeh def lol

there is even a Revature-like that is only in the midwest (maybe only in my state not sure) and THEY are literally way better than Revature

[dusky folio]

What is the name of the company?

[polar grail]

My cognizant interview coding question “how do u swap two variables value”

[hollow flicker]

Brooksource

they dont do the training scam afaivk

[rain patio]

WITCH is kinda valid in some cases

Like if I didn’t have to relocate

And I can get contracted to a FAANG I’d take it

depending on contract terms

[hollow flicker]

big facts

[rain patio]

ik if u void the contract they try to fine u or something

[hollow flicker]

oh they do fine you big big

heuuuuge

[raw plank]

Did u take it?

worth unless u have to relocate far

[rain patio]

Nah it’s 65k in Seattle

I lived in Seattle this summer too it’s peanuts

[raw plank]

Damn not worth then

[swift falcon]

bro pls

[rain patio]

Offer maxxing

[fresh mango]

Does anyone even hear back from companies like WB (their associate software engineer roles)?

[cloud zinc]

did somebody post a list of links regarding job postings in multiple US cities?

could've sworn I saw a list of these links on here or general

[rain patio]

Negative

[hollow flicker]

this problem is dumb

https://www.hackerrank.com/challenges/non-divisible-subset/problem?isFullScreen=true

like how would you figure this out fast

i just suck at this type of problem fr

[rain patio]

I’m guessing backtracking/permutation is too slow

[hollow flicker]

yeah its a tricky solution

[rain patio]

Does backtracking + memoization work

it’s prob slow af but that’s where I’d start

[hollow flicker]

its a modulo problem

[blazing oar]

Seems like pick or choose DP with two sum

You mod all the nums by k

[hollow flicker]

yeah like dis

int nonDivisibleSubset(int k, vector<int> s) {
    vector<int> remainders(k, 0);
    for(int num : s) {
        remainders[num % k]++;
    }
    int result = min(remainders[0], 1);
    if(k % 2 == 0) {
        result++;
    }
    for(int i = i; i <= k/2; ++i) {
        if(i != k - i) {
            result += max(remainders[i], remainders[k - i]);
        }
    }
    return result;
}```

[blazing oar]

Yea if you mod all the nums by k

you just need to make sure the remainders you add into the final result dont sum to k

[hollow flicker]

then you gotta just pick bigger groups

yeh i woulda not figured that out tho lol

[rain patio]

Geegee

[bold pier]

Leetcode is a disease, I am immunocompromised

[hollow flicker]

I swear hacker rank problems be testing my reading more

Than anything

This easy is a hard read

[bold pier]

Yeah, IG reels has ruined my attention span, can't do more than 10 line questions

[hollow flicker]

But actually tho

This one just so hard to read

[bold pier]

Unless there's like subway surfer running on hackerank bg

[hollow flicker]

Minecraft parkour

[bold pier]

Minecraft deez nuts

[hollow flicker]

I got Cisco oa

Is it auto

I got it immediately like 1 hour

[bold pier]

Which app

[hollow flicker]

Either swe I or II idk

I can't tell

[signal jewel]

yes

[hollow flicker]

POG

[fresh mango]

Cisco rejecting sponsorship or no? so i can test my luck

[hollow flicker]

Lot more auto OAs this year huh

[tacit grove]

anyone notice any company open up today?

[halcyon topaz]

Butthurt

Hub

[signal jewel]

apply to swe 2

[fresh mango]

aight let me try

[gusty geode]

Wrong it’s not auto

[signal jewel]

swe 2 is auto. lol

[gusty geode]

I got a referral and never received an OA

So it’s not auto…

[signal jewel]

it is bro. did you graduate already?

[gusty geode]

yeah

[signal jewel]

not sure. everyone ik got cisco oa

whoever applied

[gusty geode]

but I didn’t. Meaning it’s not automatic.

[hollow flicker]

Oh what

[signal jewel]

ig you guys got filtered out by eligibility questions

[steep pilot]

i didnt

[hollow flicker]

What even were they idk haha

It seemed very auto to me

[signal jewel]

yeah not sure. my friends got oa within minutes after applying

[gusty geode]

Yeah what eligibility

[vital meteor]

Maybe sponsor?

[loud sluice]

i didn’t get anything for sw I but for sw II i got an oa like 30 mins after i sent the application

[signal jewel]

swe 1 rejected me because they dont sponsor. but swe 2 does sponsor

i heard few got rejected based on grad date

not sure

[signal jewel]

exactly. same

[vital meteor]

Interesting, swe2 doesn't have YOE requirements?

[signal jewel]

nothing is mentioned in the basic qual

afaik

[steep pilot]

oh wait is swe 2 entry level at cisco?

[vital meteor]

There's swe 1

[steep pilot]

i didnt apply for that one. is that the one you applied for?

[signal jewel]

just apply. doesnt hurt

[hollow flicker]

Idek which my OA is for, I only have uno

[signal jewel]

applied to both 1 and 2. got oa for 2

[hollow flicker]

So probably grad date stuff

[steep pilot]

the rejection letters take a bit of my soul each time

[hollow flicker]

I just hate opening up a hackerank and having no fucking idea how to do it even tho I've been leetcoding a fuck ton, that shit crushes my soul lol

[steep pilot]

@signal jewel are you canadian?

[signal jewel]

nope

[rain patio]

@signal jewel it’s grad date

and possibly other profile date (I doubt it), once I updated it I got OA

[signal jewel]

@rain patio for the rescue. thanks

[fallen fox]

yes

[rain patio]

It will reuse ur old application so make sure to update it if u have already applied there

[fallen fox]

💸

[rain patio]

Depends, how early is early

As long as the management/leadership there is somewhat concrete I wouldn’t mind

[tardy geode]

KPMG had layoffs ?!

[rain patio]

do u know how wlb is? Is it 10-12 hrs a day?

[steep pilot]

how did you update your profile? did you just change grad date?

[rain patio]

There’s an edit job profile thing on there

[vital meteor]

I think it could be a great learning exp since you will prob have more scope

[rain patio]

Sounds fine as long as pay and tech line up to something ur interested in

[vital meteor]

Accept and keep applying then decide is tried and proven method

[rain patio]

Idt that’s bad at all for career growth

What location is it? U can probably easily maneuver from one place to another

[tardy geode]

i see shit ton of 4+ YOE roles (or senior roles) but no 1-3 YOE roles

[rain patio]

Wtf take it

[tardy geode]

smh not even 2+

bro remote is the golden apple nowadays

i wouldn't care about wlb if i have a fully remote job

[obsidian crater]

ass for mid level

under the water for noobs

🪢

they might just blacklist you

[vital meteor]

Unless you legally change your name

How bad do you want it

[obsidian crater]

Tiktok uses your phone + email as verification

[delicate lantern]

Hey do the people that post on LinkedIn OD, do they get paid

Or is it through exposure and then they say, bOoK mY cOnSuLtAtIoN

[rain patio]

This

[delicate lantern]

damn

Anyone want the consultation of a new grad who was laid off 😮‍💨😮‍💨

I’ll give you guys the special discount

[rain patio]

Take advantage of ppl who don’t know things and then charge u 15.99 a month for Jake’s resume

[delicate lantern]

Ya

That’s what I was gonna do

But wonsulting template instead

Gotta be slightly different than the competition you know

[rain patio]

I keep on getting contacted by those mentorship ppl

Make me feel retarded and shi

Talking about I need coaching

[delicate lantern]

I hate those companies that have a job posting

And then they call

And it’s always some company which is like take this course

12 weeks

$500 2 weeks

And then we help you get job

And they always are based in Georgia

[rain patio]

I wanna build an platform like AlgoExpert

I wonder if ppl in here use that

[delicate lantern]

And charge people for something like neetcode ?

[vital meteor]

Neetcode is free

[delicate lantern]

I know

I love neetcode

Bless his soul

[rain patio]

Yep

[vital meteor]

The pre neetcode Era was dark

[rain patio]

There was that one dude I used to watch before neetcode

I forgot his name he was a white guy

[vital meteor]

It was nick white, Kevin naughton and Indian profs

[rain patio]

Messy hair some videos

nick white

That’s him

Now I’m a live programming with Larry main

[tardy geode]

neetcode is a savior for my LC game

before discovering him i wouldn't do LC nor would suck at it

now atleast i am better than that

[vital meteor]

Same I think his explanations are good, the ones before him basically just copied lc solutions word for word

[tardy geode]

coz of him my LC count grew from 35 to 200 somthing

[tardy geode]

for me i was a python guy so before discovering him i had a lot of issues

like i would watch nick white then convert that code to python but many times shit wont work

[vital meteor]

Ah yea true those guys used java

[tardy geode]

it was frustrating

i hate java

[bold pier]

Java gang assemble

[vital meteor]

I only use python for lc for zon it was basically all java though

[tardy geode]

ffs shit is all staff swe and senior roles , i browsed through like fking 30 pages and applied to only 10-13 jobs wtf

[steep pilot]

i wanna switch but im too locked in now

[obsidian crater]

swe is over

internationals are over

we're all gonna be writing code for 40k

[past hound]

I am not even a international (US citizen), and I can't find shit.

[bold pier]

no you're not, it might be hard to leetcode in another language but it's very easy to switch b/w languages when developing actual apps. The principles are all the same.

[obsidian crater]

Just saw a job by S&P for swe 1

Salary range 40K-65K

ngmi

[bold pier]

I am literally 33 days from deportation

[steep pilot]

lol ik but i mean for leetcode. like it would be so much easier if i just did it in python but idk i guess i like pain

[bold pier]

what non tech life, I gotta pay my tution back wtf

[unborn coral]

Just do not return and never pay 💰

[bold pier]

Best case I change my name and identity and move to Singapore

[unborn coral]

Pray for Joe Byron forgiveness

[bold pier]

dafaq

TC = Total cunt

[elder narwhal]

wish he made his sys design free

[arctic orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/denpok-singh-spiritual-advisor-grinder-silicon-valley-dating-app-gif-15703853

Denpak > ramdev

[rain patio]

you don't need to be deported to do that lol

[hollow flicker]

What is s&p

[rain patio]

Bruh London has hundreds of positions open

I mean we're basically British right? They should hire us

[grizzled bronze]

That recently posted remote SWE Workiva listing already has over 417 applicants

Just a heads up, this job posting is a bit of a catch-all and isn't tailored to any specific team. We want to be upfront and transparent about that before you dive in.

[hollow flicker]

How to avoid this being me lolol

[oblique wasp]

java is past, present and future

[hollow flicker]

JVM is love

[tardy geode]

just not for lc i feel

[lyric cove]

anybody took the jpmorgan 2024 SEP february OA?

[oblique wasp]

jk lol

[ornate cliff]

anyone down to roast me? https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1141167624072462466

need to survive probation first

[polar grail]

yes

havent heard anything from them since with an all passed test cases with most efficient solution

[bold pier]

Wait, is Canadian Unicorn 🦄 a real company?

[ornate cliff]

yes

there's...dozens of them!

[bold pier]

If whomm Unicorns are real now?

[signal jewel]

most common reasons to get blacklisted???

[hollow flicker]

Being too good and cool

[cold pawn]

using Javascript when the interviewer only knows C++

[bold pier]

Not being ex-faang with 5yoe

[rain patio]

not being senior swe level for your first job

Not being able to solve the halting problem at birth

[vital meteor]

prob being rude to recruiters

blacklisting prob not common unless you like dont wear boxers during an interview and then accidentally stand up

[signal jewel]

not just black they will red blue green all list

[hollow flicker]

kinda feels like it tho

[hollow flicker]

Fuck them wagmi

[obsidian crater]

resume?

how

bro that makes no sense

I have 0yoe outside internships and they sent me an OA

ah

that's probably why

color is gonna be a crapshoot

1300+ applicants

Kinda desperate lol

Trying not to get deported

I did pass all the test cases on their OA

But that's probably just enough to get my resume viewed

New grad + remote

it's 5yoe

I think bob has 2-3

Are you an aws refugee bob?

[hollow flicker]

Man didn't you hear?? We just need to embrace life's challenges!!

You can all thank my uncle for putting out the good word! We all just aren't bootstrapping hard enough

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[hollow flicker]

I'm literally doing leetcode all day on my birthday and this fucking cunt has the audacity to tell me I'm not trying hard enough. Ngmi

[pseudo wagon]

Hey guys can I get your opinion on my resume? Job search is rough so I'm literally also applying for minimum wage part time jobs lol

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1141190013728604182

[obsidian crater]

very practical, not lc bullshit

Got it on Saturday

Idk haven't heard back from them since doing the OA

[fallen fox]

i looked them up on linkedin, almost all of their swes are from stanford/mit/berkeley

[pseudo wagon]

how do you guys plan on paying loans while on the job search (if you have loans)?

[fallen fox]

get an okay paying non swe job; grind leetcode and apply to other jobs at work

[final ore]

I sold one of my kidney

[marble flower]

savings. And non swe job when that runs out

Unemployment hits different frfr

[rain patio]

Jesus

[halcyon topaz]

Has anyone heard back from cooor?

Color

[burnt orchid]

Im bouta get a disability answering this disability question 500 times

[halcyon topaz]

Wtfff

No oa?

[hollow flicker]

guys i cannot got all the test cases to pass on queens attack 2 on hackerrank

i hate hackerrank

im like certain this should work im so confused

uh huh

its this https://www.hackerrank.com/challenges/queens-attack-2/problem?isFullScreen=true

im using i directional dfs approach with a while loop

passes half the cases

wait i got it hang on wtf did i just change

idk its a simple problem im just confused

[pseudo wagon]

man I'm getting burt out from applying to jobs

I just want to work a minimum wage job where I don't have to use my brain tbh

at this point

[hollow flicker]

oops lemme edit

you do lol

ik :.(

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[hollow flicker]

i hate this problem it makes no sense why my top approach just fails

fuck hackerrank

Like how does using a set change anything

[cold pawn]

@hollow flicker your solution looks kinda complicated
This is my Python solution that passess all test cases

def queensAttack(n, k, r_q, c_q, obstacles):
dirs = [(1, 0), (-1, 0), (0, 1), (0, -1), (1, 1), (-1, -1), (-1, 1), (1, -1)]
obstacles_set = set((o[0], o[1]) for o in obstacles)
count = 0
for dir in dirs:
r = r_q
c = c_q
while True:
r += dir[0]
c += dir[1]
if (r, c) in obstacles_set:
break
if not (1 <= r <= n and 1 <= c <= n):
break
count += 1
return count

[hollow flicker]

It was

I fixed it

I'm more just being a stubborn fuck, there's just a problem with using 0 indexing. I switched it all to 1 indexing and it's fine. Idk

[hollow flicker]

I swear I'm over-complicate-solution-andy

[cold pawn]

do you do hacker rank a lot? do you think it is a better practice for OAs than Leetcode because Hackerrank ones are usually more wordy

[raw plank]

honestly this chat is pretty great even if its negative sometimes

glad I joined, got some perspective

[hollow flicker]

Unironically I think it's pretty important yes

I've just started doing hr more

And it's actually kind of a different feel. Like leetcode I feel I learn the tricks and algos but hacker rank is just a bizarre challenge sometimes

Like the problem setups are weird too

I'm sure there are LCs like the HR I just posted but like having all these weird input params is not typical in LC I find

[hollow flicker]

Literally so true. I think people are pretty funny here which lightens the doom

[cold pawn]

I see
maybe I should try doing Hackerrank too

[hollow flicker]

I'm still gonna main LC but yeah I plan on doing like 2 hacker ranks a day

3-4 LC 2 HR

[cold pawn]

good plan

[hollow flicker]

Also need to switch to python like yesterday I'm just stuck on cpp for some reason.

I fuck with the simplicity of it

[cold pawn]

I guess Hackerrank problems are more like competetive programming problems
they also tend to be wordy

[hollow flicker]

For LC it's simple and bare bones at least is what I mean

Interesting I didn't know that

The inputs are just so wonky too

Like not hard but you gotta read that shit

[elder narwhal]

Thats so fax

[cold pawn]

I've seen problems on Codeforces and other competitions and they are wordy most of the time
unlike Leetcode

[halcyon topaz]

Daddy

[hollow flicker]

This is why I started doing it

I've done like a couple OAs on HR and they were just anxiety inducing because of the bizarre wordiness

[rain patio]

@cold pawn codesignal has prac problems too

[hollow flicker]

Guess I'll do 2 code signal 2 HR and 3 lc

Every day

[rain patio]

Code signal and hr are like the same

in terms of wording

[hollow flicker]

Oh yeah super smart damn

I just need more exposure to tricks like this I feel and I'll start gaining more intuition

[halcyon topaz]

how long to get goldman sachs OA

[hollow flicker]

The fixed sized array is just what the default setup of the problem is no?

[neon perch]

Bruh why does BlackRock make you say why you wanna work for them

As if typing this wasn’t enough

[hollow flicker]

Everywhere does

They want you to jack them off

[neon perch]

No like the video thing is so weird

😭😭😭

[hollow flicker]

Ohhh fuck

It's a video of ?

Oh I see what you mean

I thought you meant just store an array of pairs

[neon perch]

It’s like a video response and you have to answer why you wanna work for BlackRock

I’m 1.5 mins

*in

[hollow flicker]

I had to do that for willow tree

Tons of insanely cringe qs

[neon perch]

So cringe my god

[hollow flicker]

Willow let me re do the vids

And I did it for like 2 hours no joke

And I got the offer allllllll becuz of those yep

[neon perch]

I’m on my 8th attempt with this

💀

[swift falcon]

god i hate those

I bombed one virtual interview like that at a company in my area, they gave you the question, like a minute to prepare and then you had to record

[neon perch]

Same I had bombed Morgan Stanley with that, I completely blanked out after a minute lmao 💀

[past hound]

sizeof(seen) is cursed. Never use sizeof on a array.

[obsidian crater]

Be a and use std::array which knows its own size

[lament basin]

who up

[past hound]

If the array was declared in a different scope, sizeof(array) would be the size of a pointer, which is usually 8 on a x86-64 system.

[lament basin]

y is it so hot in nyc mane

[past hound]

I believe it would work in your example, but it is bad practice for that reason...it doesn't always return the size of the array.

You should have used sizeof(int) * n * n

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canticos-not-gonna-make-it-not-going-to-make-it-ngmi-were-not-going-to-make-it-gif-25635049

[final ore]

SIG reject after perfect 100% in OA...

[sturdy forge]

They resume sceeen hard it’s a quant company wouldn’t beat yourself up

[final ore]

Ahh makes sense...

[solemn spire]

How we doing

[autumn iris]

8hr drive back to uni

Just reading leetcode code

[solemn kite]

Got a 2 month temp position as a data analyst 🥳🥳

It's not swe but if they convert then it's something

Anyone here got exp as a data analyst? What's it like? They said it'll be mainly sql (like stored procedures) and powerbi

[swift falcon]

power bi 😔

[hollow flicker]

What even is a system engineer position guys

I apparently applied to one and they just hit me bacj

That feels like it could be non swe even idk I'll check it out

[fallen fox]

devops type i think

[hollow flicker]

Interesting I'll check it out

[fallen fox]

actually depends on the company; on linkedin it looks like more roles are like sys admin type

[hollow flicker]

HAHA

this place that hit me up

[gusty geode]

interview processes sseem to be picking up. hopefully yall are getting interviews

[hollow flicker]

literally fucking offers 50k

for 3 years

bro like what the fuck?

who is taking this

its not even a contractor

its literally a company

UWM

[solemn kite]

is it bad 😮

[hollow flicker]

cap

haha bro whend you expire?

Pontiac Michigan

i literally got a 75k offer from some no name company that makes dynometers

like 50k is bizarre

even the low paying insurance companies here pay 65k

hopefully this final goes well at this OTHER place on friday and I get this fucking job cuz its way better pay even tho its a no name

[trail tundra]

ropepito

[hollow flicker]

I'll let you know. Are you at least getting interviews?

Fuckin awful I'm sorry g

My best luck has been literally going on Google maps and looking at software companies

[jaunty drift]

how was your resume?

[swift falcon]

if you're using data sources that you have not made, and someone else has, it kinda sucks

if you actually have control over what comes through, that's 10000x better

[final ore]

1 inch closer to trash bin

[swift falcon]

you want to manipulate the data as little as possible once it hits PBI, otherwise your reports become super slow and obnoxious to maintain

[solemn kite]

it's a senior analyst position so im kinda debating whether to take it/not. bc it does mean less leetcode time ig. is being a data analyst and writing sql stored procedures like tedious work?

since it's a temp they're ok hiring me though

[swift falcon]

idk, maybe it'll be interesting

[solemn kite]

but leetcode :((

[swift falcon]

but for me, it's been tedious af

[solemn kite]

oh are you also working as a data analyst?

[swift falcon]

not really, I'm more of a report maker

but I've been doing power bi for last 3-4 years

[solemn kite]

"develop and supply reporting" is part of the job description for me

can i dm you

[swift falcon]

sure

[fallen fox]

nope

[hollow flicker]

tons, just got called for a position that pays 50k

IM RICH BITCH

yeah hmu on linkedin

its just a bullshit position tho

[jaunty drift]

maybe it's cause you are international?

[pine topaz]

just be overemployed

2 jobs = 100k tc

[hollow flicker]

its full time on site

good luck doin that

[pine topaz]

[hollow flicker]

yeah its a bullshit ass position they clearly want non try hards

[pine topaz]

We need a covid 2.0

[rapid tangle]

is anyone getting OAs for fulltime positions rn?

[hollow flicker]

yeah ofc

[jaunty drift]

also can you apply to a new grad position if you have already been working for 6 months?

[hollow flicker]

not passin em necessarily

[rapid tangle]

damn, I am getting auto rejected everyware 😦

[hollow flicker]

i apply to 2024 grad positions

[hollow flicker]

me too definitely the OA rate isnt good.

But like I found a place just looking at google maps and just got an OA from them today

[rapid tangle]

LOL

[hollow flicker]

yeah it seems like a litty place tbh

X by 2

its near me

doxxing myself here

haha

[rapid tangle]

How is 2024 looking?

[hollow flicker]

yeah ikr??

there are like a lot of "software" companies in michigan swear

its weird i dont really get why there are so many

like my final on friday is at this place in Lansing that seems to have a pretty solid business going

[autumn iris]

Im pretty sure quants/tradings only hire from selective schools

[hollow flicker]

L

[final ore]

They say graduated after some time...

[autumn iris]

I dont think so

Pretty sure if u are already working then you would apply to more experienced roles

But "graduated after some time" applies to those who graduated and havent gotten a job yet

[hollow flicker]

Bro I swear to God

I can't believe this place pays 50k only for 3 fucking years

Gotta be slave labor

[swift falcon]

wdym

like 50k/year

or 50k for a 3 year contract or sth

[elder narwhal]

Which company?

[hollow flicker]

50k a year and you don't get a pay raise for 3 years

[hollow flicker]

Uwm

[swift falcon]

damn, no pay raise

that's dicked up

[tacit grove]

objective to land a job by end of august? are you international @gentle peak ?

[hollow flicker]

Yeah he's gonna enlist

[loud sluice]

might as well go revature at that point

[hollow flicker]

Yeah but no cap that's true

[tacit grove]

Great, I'm on the same boat! Do you have anything lined up atm?

[past hound]

I got invited to cisco oa for swe I. Interesting.

I thought only swe II gave them out

[halcyon topaz]

Is the oa actually fizzbuzz ?

[past hound]

I haven't done it yet. I just woke up to it.

[grizzled bronze]

It's rng

[past hound]

F

I hope I get fizzbuzz

or two sum

[cold pawn]

I got fizzbuzz
but not everyone gets it

[halcyon topaz]

That’s funny af

[past hound]

like actually fizzbuzz with nothing different?

[pine topaz]

I got it for NG 2022, its leetcode mediums (atleast for me)

[cold pawn]

it's fizbuzz but a little bit harder than regular fizbuzz

[pine topaz]

I competely bombed it but still got moved onto next round

[grizzled bronze]

Lucky! I wouldn't expect that this year though

[pine topaz]

Solve N Queens will the first quesiton

[cold pawn]

Solve N Queens in O(logn) time and O(1) space

[pine topaz]

Just use chatgpt

[rain patio]

Delete this

We must gatekeep industry secrets

[grizzled bronze]

Microsoft intern listings in a lot of locations are showing up in my LinkedIn. Maybe there's a chance they post new grad.

[pine topaz]

didnt they just lay ppl off very rcently

[grizzled bronze]

yeah I think that was just a routine layoff

[pine topaz]

dont worry, septemner is coming soon

[cold pawn]

that's what last year's new grads said
and now they're still looking for jobs

[pine topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jC-rRPKZ3U

Liek I gave up on the last question and missed on a lot of the test cases

I literaly gave up and submited it

[shy fable]

Has anyone taken the ramp OA and what should I be expecting ? Because looks like you cannot proceed to other questions until you complete the ones before it.

[pine topaz]

@ramp is a trash company

oh he left the server

[obsidian crater]

Ramp has an OA?

I thought it was just the challenge with the AWS link

[grizzled bronze]

they recently switched up to OA

[obsidian crater]

time to apply

They ghosted me after my ctf challenge (all flags)

[grizzled bronze]

Sucks they switched to OA, I solved all of the CTFs and was waiting to redo the same thing for 2024 apps

[shy fable]

Wait I think I mean the CTF. Recievd a codesingal from them .

is the codesignal and the CTF similar ?

[obsidian crater]

no

codesignal is typical leetcode

CTF was cybersecurity stuff

[shy fable]

Oh ok

I have heard ramp is pretty fast growing startup and the interview process is pretty brutal

Maybe I'm wromg

This is what i got

Industry coding framework kind of freaks me out

[willow sedge]

wait is cisco oa auto?

[tacit grove]

Is SIG and blackrock auto OA?

[past hound]

Mine took like 2 weeks to be sent, so I am guessing it wasn't auto for swe I.

[willow sedge]

yeah i just got it and was curious

[elder narwhal]

No, I still didnt get OA

[rain patio]

@shy fable did u have to do a pre assessment in the application (CTF/Frontend)?

[halcyon topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT-bOXTNMmU&ab_channel=SamTaubman

ngmi

spends 20 minutes on an easy just to copy the solution

[rain patio]

He’s committed

He’s gonna make it

[halcyon topaz]

it was in my recommended

kinda funny

[fallen fox]

thats me

[halcyon topaz]

is solutions are fascinating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0DjIdZHRZs&ab_channel=SamTaubman

he sorts the array in twosum

and uses two pointers

and then searches the original array to get the indeces

[narrow harbor]

dude thats me

thank you

[solemn kite]

how long does it take to get OPT EAD after premium processing?

[shy fable]

No I did not have to. This is my first assement as part of the application

[fresh mango]

should be about a week or two

[obsidian crater]

uscis is taking so long

I submitted mine over 2 months ago and still haven't gotten anything

[fresh mango]

my may submission isn't here lool

but ngl it's good cause the timer doesn't start

[obsidian crater]

it does

[fresh mango]

my international center told me it doesn't until you receive the ead

[obsidian crater]

huh

[fresh mango]

the start date doesn't matter until it's approved, your start date will be pushed back

it happened w me once before after undergrad when I applied for my ead

my start date came for a later day

[obsidian crater]

Unemployment Days: Your unemployment days start after your OPT start date on your EAD card. You get a total of 90 days of unemployment for the duration of post-completion OPT. While you are considered in valid F-1 status while unemployed, travel may be risky if you don’t have a job offer or proof of employment. Be sure to review our guidelines for traveling while on OPT if you plan to travel internationally during OPT.
https://iss.washington.edu/understanding-your-grace-period-and-unemployment-days-on-opt/

not my uni but are you saying that if I get my card in 2 weeks the start date is for that date?

instead of what I picked?

[past hound]

Not international, but that whole process sounds like hell.

[obsidian crater]

It is hell man

Internationals are called "non resident aliens"

[fresh mango]

gotta confirm though, I might be fed misinformation and do t want you to be mislead bro

[obsidian crater]

At least call us human

[fallen fox]

rope

[past hound]

The company basically has you by the balls

[fresh mango]

CIA agent saw an Indian in Texas and said

we have an alien

💀😭

[obsidian crater]

haha Indian immigrants are pretty new

[halcyon topaz]

i think this dude is biochem trying to get into swe so actually good for him

i thought he was a cs major

[obsidian crater]

It was Brits first, then Europeans and then Chinese

Indians are a post 1980s thing

[fallen fox]

Thank you for your application for the Tools Automation Programmer position at Rockstar New England. We have reviewed your application materials, however we have determined that they are not quite a match for the role at this point in time.

We appreciate your time and interest in Rockstar Games and wish you all the best in your job search.

Thanks,

The Rockstar Games Talent Acquisition Team

https://tenor.com/view/dace-gif-25608746

[fresh mango]

full on, the H1B thing is literally a mf lottery

[halcyon topaz]

i got cisco OA

should i take

[obsidian crater]

If I can't get a job I'm going the academia route

[fallen fox]

damn i really like starting my day with 5 rejects

[obsidian crater]

I'll take my >= 3.0 gpa and shove it in any college willing to take me and do a thesis lol

[fresh mango]

already done w my masters, rejected a PhD to do industry

and the industry

is out here asking us to fuck off

[fresh mango]

SW I?

[obsidian crater]

ya

[fallen fox]

just rope

its over

ngmi

[halcyon topaz]

swe2

[obsidian crater]

heh I don't give up so easily

[fresh mango]

that's true lol always think about that

[obsidian crater]

I got that dawg in me

[halcyon topaz]

anyone do the SWE2 cisco OA

[fallen fox]

[loud sluice]

yeah

easy

[fresh mango]

Hopefully if they don't resume reject me

[halcyon topaz]

easy af?

[loud sluice]

yeah

[obsidian crater]

The dream is to be Geoffrey Hinton's student 😍

PhD

[past hound]

I am probably gonna do the OA for cisco SWE I after dinner.

[fresh mango]

how long from application did you get ?

[halcyon topaz]

me?

[fresh mango]

I'ma hit up Yann leCunn

[fresh mango]

ye

[halcyon topaz]

i appleid like 30 mins ago

[obsidian crater]

My problem is GPA

My undergrad GPA is shit

My final year undergrad GPA is alright

But everything else

Final year is 3.49 and some unis only care about last year

[past hound]

Academia sounds cool until you realize it is publish or perish unless you take a teaching position.

[fresh mango]

the academia toxicity is next level ngl

[halcyon topaz]

dont think gpa matters a whole lot

[obsidian crater]

I don't have publications either

So I'm just a mediocre student

[fresh mango]

took me a whole year to realize if your advisor and team isn't good you're basically fucked

[obsidian crater]

My greatest achievement in life is TAing for algorithms

[fresh mango]

gotta jump labs and start a whole new topic

[past hound]

I had a near perfect GPA, but I can't take schooling anymore, so I stopped at undergraduate. I need monies to become independent.

Can't keep living with my parents

[obsidian crater]

My dad said he'd arrange monies if I got in

Cause he said job market in India is shit

As a PM he's had to rescind offers

🪢

[fresh mango]

frl same lool

[fallen fox]

sounds like rope

[fresh mango]

the code for hire shit in India is crazy

peanuts for no work like balance

[obsidian crater]

I got cisco OA for SWE2

It's truly dystopian, and climate change is gonna fuck shit up too

[fresh mango]

can u dm me the link to it?

[obsidian crater]

[fresh mango]

the job posting

[obsidian crater]

no

it's a dog eat dog world sorry

just google it

easy to find

[past hound]

If I had a healthy relationship with my parents, I'd gladly do a phd.

[obsidian crater]

My relationship with my parents is shit

[past hound]

see edit

[obsidian crater]

But they want me to succeed

[past hound]

Brain no worky

Idk why I said friends instead of parents before edit. I have amazing friends.

[obsidian crater]

yes

do it lol

their TC is decent

[hollow flicker]

The post OA?

[obsidian crater]

• epic doesn't sponsor so it'll take away competition from me

[hollow flicker]

Madison Wisconsin isn't bad

Most CS students don't get into swe I swear

Or even want to

Some people aren't try hards

And that's ok

Yeah well you gotta be realistic

Like I don't think I'll get big N until later in my career and never really did to be honest

When I got the Willow Tree offer I was like damn this is good

And more than I expected for name recognition

[obsidian crater]

I have an ego problem

[hollow flicker]

Why

[obsidian crater]

So my ego won't let me rest until I achieve something great

So it's greatness or die trying

[loud sluice]

i just want 65-70k frfr

for starting

[hollow flicker]

No it wasn't outside of big N

[arctic orchid]

It’s ok it’s basically a CS job requirement these days

[obsidian crater]

I'm Asian, my parents planted the seed and it ain't never going away

Rat race seed 🪢

[hollow flicker]

Ive been in this since 2021 and never expected 150k TC lol

Well I started Jan 21 so yeah

Cap

My resume was shit so

No internship until 22

[obsidian crater]

bro I know a dude who cheated in a lot of class

he got amazon

then he got laid off from IAM

[hollow flicker]

Not surprised at all

Yeah you actually have to be helpful

Life isn't fair we don't all get the TC we want. Better to let go and keep grinding imo but if you like causing yourself pain it's all good

[past hound]

group projects be like

One person doing all the work while the freeloaders do nothing

[hollow flicker]

Bruh relax

Like how old are you dude

[fresh mango]

wouldn't refer to myself as a dog just yet but I get the sentiment💀

[hollow flicker]

Life is fucked up that is just how it is

[past hound]

Steve jobs was the king of taking credit for other people's work.

[rain patio]

Ur just like me fr

[past hound]

Although, that is a lot of CEO.

[obsidian crater]

Steve Jobs was an amazing product manager though

He was an asshole who stole credit but he had amazing ideas

[past hound]

I mean yea

[marble flower]

which one did you apply to. I still haven't gotten OA (for Canada)

[past hound]

Not saying the guy had no talent

[obsidian crater]

I don't respect him that much but he wasn't born rich or privileged and somehow made it

[arctic orchid]

Yeah Steve Jobs was a notorious asshole

[obsidian crater]

He was born to some immigrant and given up for adoption

[arctic orchid]

Everyone who worked for him also said they did the best work of their lives

He also gave engineers all the funding they need to make the products and time

[halcyon topaz]

Swe 2 in California preferrd

Probably gonna do the oa soon

[marble flower]

Let me know how it went

[obsidian crater]

what does cisco ask

I wanna know

[marble flower]

Hopefully OA today

[halcyon topaz]

i heard its really easy thats it

[obsidian crater]

no

it's just you in the room raising temps

yes

[rain patio]

cisco oa is chill @obsidian crater

[obsidian crater]

most of Africa and Asia will be too hot to live

a lot of people are gonna die

[halcyon topaz]

is the cisco oa leetcode type questions?

its 90 minutes long

[rain patio]

Yep

[halcyon topaz]

so im guessing like 5 qs?

[rain patio]

No it’s like 2 or 3

[halcyon topaz]

Wtf

[tardy geode]

i am longing for happiness in my life , the last time i was happy when i had recieved my intern offer letter

[rain patio]

It’s like codility too btw

Actually I don’t remember

[tardy geode]

each day i wake up with a headache and heavy heart

[rain patio]

the platform was something weird

I forgot name of it

[tardy geode]

i browse through 20-30 pages of jobs on linkedin only to apply to about 7-9

as most are staff or senior etc

[past hound]

SHL's (formerly Aspiring Minds) secure website

Is what the cisco oa is on

[tardy geode]

cisco gives everybody OA and doesn't get back

[halcyon topaz]

Gg

[obsidian crater]

waiting for color to reply

I got 100% on their OA