2023_grads

[autumn iris]

did u already graduate

[bold pier]

I'm sorry you're cancelled

[autumn iris]

maybe u weren't a current student?

[final ore]

i graduated 2 months back... like in may

[bold pier]

How'd you stop your clock?

[autumn iris]

isnt ur clock

still going

[final ore]

i guess i didnt get that...

[bold pier]

You're international right?

[final ore]

yeahh

[bold pier]

When did your opt start?

[final ore]

from may

[autumn iris]

wut

dont u have a month left

[final ore]

im already working in a fintech

[bold pier]

Are you working somewhere?

Ohh

[final ore]

since jan but they pay peanuts

[bold pier]

Full time job?

[final ore]

yeahh!

[autumn iris]

uh thats not NG then

u wouldn't qualify

[final ore]

they said graduated past 6 months so.. 😦

[autumn iris]

i thought u graduate this may

[bold pier]

I have 40 days left lol

[final ore]

yeahhh i worked on cpt for 7 months and then started my opt from june

[autumn iris]

was it part time

since january

[final ore]

no full time cpt

[bold pier]

You can work full time on CPT

[autumn iris]

o

but i thought he just finished degree

u can work + school same time?

[final ore]

my amazon was rescined tooo

[bold pier]

He did

[final ore]

why meeeeee...

[bold pier]

Yes, using CPT

[autumn iris]

oh

[autumn iris]

when did u apply for amazon

[final ore]

feb 2022

[autumn iris]

wut

thats super early

was may 2023 ur original graduation date

or did u delay

[bold pier]

lmao I think he applied for Iminternshio in Feb 22

[autumn iris]

no thats way too late for amazon internship

[bold pier]

And his return offer got resinded

[autumn iris]

isnt it

[final ore]

the waitlist dragged my graduation for 6 months

nope i got L4

[autumn iris]

o so u were graduating in december

[final ore]

in sept 2022

yeahh

[autumn iris]

ah

[bold pier]

You should write a book

[final ore]

but i delayed it to may 2023

[final ore]

i should....

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

will companies hire me then?

[bold pier]

Bruh someone hire me for an unpaid internship pls

[bold pier]

Possibly, you can pivot to Dev Rel jobs instead of software engineer

[autumn iris]

wat was their reasoning for rescind

[final ore]

im suck in between..... new grad roles ask for farther grad date like dec 2023 and entry or associate roles asks for 2+ years exp..... donno wut to do

[autumn iris]

couldnt u just stick at ur job

and apply after a yr (first h1b cycle)

[final ore]

due to current economic conditions we were unable to extend your offer for now and will reach out in future....

[autumn iris]

oh

wait when was the rescind though

march?

pretty sure that was when they did the mass layoff

[final ore]

i cant digest the fact that im getting underpaid....

[autumn iris]

wats underpaid

[final ore]

yeah that was peak inflation time

[final ore]

im getting 30% of what amazon offered

[autumn iris]

how is that underpaid

[final ore]

yep

[autumn iris]

arent u still making over 80k

wut

amazon NG is 120base+ rsu 40kish

[final ore]

joining and reloc =37k

+160 frst year

[autumn iris]

so ur current job is over 80k

[final ore]

nope around 65

[autumn iris]

joining/reloc isnt part of the math

if its 65k, then thats more like 50%

[final ore]

no bonus nothing... at worst I have to pay for my medical insurance

[autumn iris]

i thought fintech gives u

some sort of plan

isnt it a huge company

[final ore]

no way they just stopped everything

[autumn iris]

wut

insurance n sht

is part of company policies usually

they don't just not give it

[final ore]

when u know your worth and watch people who can do for loop are getting 100k+ Its like a slow death

GlobalPayments

[autumn iris]

how do they not give plans

thats a huge ass company

[final ore]

i did intern there and my return offer was 94k plus stocks and annual bonus with health and alll included

[autumn iris]

how did it suddenly become 65k though

[final ore]

after i reached out for ful time they have readjusted

[autumn iris]

its 65k, just base salary and nothing else?

[final ore]

the recruiter is like either take the job or leave.... when we post this job for 2 hrs we will be getting 200+ qualified people

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

i dont have a choice

[autumn iris]

i think

they were pissed that u rejected their original offer

[final ore]

i havent rejected

[autumn iris]

u accepted the original return offer?

i meant that

[final ore]

I asked them for sometime

because my amazon offer is in waitlist by that time

[autumn iris]

yeah thats why

they prob knew u were interviewing with other companies

its basically same thing as considering them as ur backup

[final ore]

may be... anyways lesson learnt

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

i can see the job market picking up its pace

may be 2 or 3 months more....

[autumn iris]

how much LC did u do

but yeah, i dont think u would qualify for NG

u prob have to apply to experienced roles 1yr+

[final ore]

fidelity and visa interviewed me like for 3 rounds and ghosted saying like we are looking for experienced

[final ore]

300 or so...

[autumn iris]

[abstract wadi]

breakdown?

[final ore]

312

[autumn iris]

meant how many

mediums/hards

[abstract wadi]

E/M/H

[final ore]

lemme check

135 easy 20 hard 157 med

[abstract wadi]

very impressive

[final ore]

i did that neetcode roadmap...

[abstract wadi]

was it helpful?

[final ore]

i can see the patterns repeating..

like my amazon interview was 3*45 and i got 2 from that

[obsidian crater]

sorry man

I feel ya

[final ore]

topological sort and heap problem like i need to find first k smallest differences from an array

[obsidian crater]

I'm international too and my friend who didn't even finish blind75 is chilling at amazon

Meanwhile I'm stuck with a low pay job if I get one

[final ore]

not our time...

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

alright thanks for listening i feel better now

[obsidian crater]

[autumn iris]

[autumn iris]

have u been getting interviews like phones though

im curious wat u say if they ask about ur experience at current job

like sub 1yr

[final ore]

no i keep begging people in linkedin thats how i got visa and fidelity calls

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

for people like me in India, US is like land of opportunities.... it like a dream... Now this is my greatest regret.....

cant go back because of huge tuition fee loans...

[autumn iris]

did u do a masters or undergrad

[autumn iris]

idk who ever thought that, i thought india was fine in terms of pay:COL

[obsidian crater]

depends

everything is more competitive in India

[final ore]

masters

its a rat race

[autumn iris]

most people i met who came to US mainly did it for the degree

[obsidian crater]

everyone and their mom has solved 500 LC problems

[autumn iris]

well most people i knew had GRA/GTAs

so it was partly funded too

they said the job is just a bonus

[final ore]

people with IIT or NIT on resume will be considered as good candidates

[autumn iris]

yeah that

everyone i knew were at IIT

[abstract wadi]

when theres money involved everything is so competitive

[autumn iris]

[abstract wadi]

if google were like you have to learn how to do a kickflip while juggling to get a job ppl would be out there grinding it and and industry would be built around selling courses on it

[final ore]

[autumn iris]

if its a masters then i dont think its that bad?

couldnt u just pay it back within 2yrs

[final ore]

it depends up on cost of living and tc right?

literally im living from paycheck to paycheck

[autumn iris]

are u in a HCOL or LCOL

[final ore]

didnt get that

[autumn iris]

high cost of living or low

cause people live paycheck to paycheck on 35k in america

so i kinda took that as the baseline

[final ore]

car loan, edu loan, renting.... supporting parents...

[autumn iris]

oh

do u have roommates

or u in a single

[narrow seal]

man’s never heard of supply and demand

[final ore]

doesnt matter actually now because of current market rents and housing are skyrocketing

[autumn iris]

i thought housing market peaked, rent maybe

[final ore]

loan interest rate went from 3% to 6.0

[autumn iris]

wut

how does ur interest change

[narrow seal]

how many years minimum do y’all think it’ll take for it all to “settle down”

[final ore]

i got a dcu car loan at 3% they changed it to 6.0 now

[narrow seal]

or at least not be as ridiculous as it is now

[autumn iris]

wat u mean settle down

[narrow seal]

they changed your loan??? ts gotta be illegal

[autumn iris]

if ur talking about the job market, never

[narrow seal]

like housing markets calm down, prices stop soaring

[autumn iris]

oh

it already has

it peaked because of covid + no interest rates

interests rate went back up, less people want houses

[narrow seal]

alr good

[final ore]

no its in the doc... like interest rates depends on current market situations

[narrow seal]

we don’t need more airBNBs

[final ore]

lesssgoooooo

[autumn iris]

idk i still feel like

u can easily live off 65k

unless u got a brand new car + single apartment

but yeah only thing is prob just keep applying, market should open up next month

[final ore]

i really wish...

[autumn iris]

which state r u in though

if its low cost of living, i think its doable

dont know how it would be paycheck to paycheck

[final ore]

the real pain is only felt by the hen that lays eggs

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

Atlanta GA

[autumn iris]

thats okay

pretty sure u can just get a studio for 1.4k/month

i go to school there

[final ore]

[autumn iris]

65k is okay in atlanta though

[bold pier]

65k is okay for now as long as you ain't getting deported

[autumn iris]

as long as u dont get an apartment in midtown

also stay away from south

[bold pier]

I am getting literal offer for 1k per 2 weeks for 6 months internship

[autumn iris]

$12.5/hr

[bold pier]

I can earn more than this in my third world home country wtf

[autumn iris]

moving back to atlanta next wednesday

8hr drive

[vital meteor]

say hello to the family for me

[final ore]

i guess your whole intern money will get used by your car's fuel

@3.7/ gallon

Google started hiring again.. thats a good sign.... it was the first company that stopped hiring last year.... later others followed like MSFT

[autumn iris]

im not interning

parents driving me back up there

was just chilling this summer

[vital meteor]

what happened to that guy

who was always blaming his friends success

[autumn iris]

[ornate cliff]

new grad?

[final ore]

yeahh with 6 months+ exp

[bold pier]

Google can suck deez nuts

[ornate cliff]

link plssss I haven't seen it

also what's your rank

[autumn iris]

googles interview process

is long af

[ornate cliff]

yeah but it's GOOG

[bold pier]

bruh how are they hiring new people when my interview score is still pending and they don't even reply :X

[autumn iris]

wats an interview score

[bold pier]

Like cleared first round and waiting for a position to interview for

many even cleared onsite and waiting for team matching coz there were no positions, the google discord is full of such people

but these mfs open up a general posting instead of clearing the backlog, fuck them

[swift falcon]

YEAH FUCK THEM

[final ore]

FAANG is more like a hype....

there are many good companies which outpay them.... eg: trading firms

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

[final ore]

I've read somewhere like a usps driver is getting 170k TC/year

[pine topaz]

its a fact

SWE is a dead career

[autumn iris]

oh

[swift falcon]

i saw tiktok by a driver breaking it down

[autumn iris]

wait so

[final ore]

google new grad is like 160 k...

[autumn iris]

at google, u apply to any position and they match u?

[swift falcon]

its not 170k but its like over 100k total comp with pension and health

[autumn iris]

thats after like

10yrs with working 80-100hrs/week

u get paid hourly

[bold pier]

plus you get to break my amazon packages, amazing

[final ore]

12 years highscl + 4 years undergrad and 2+ years masters is dog shit now

[swift falcon]

it was like 43$/hr and they’re negotiating to like 46$/hr or sth

[autumn iris]

i checked around and most people quit after 6-7yrs

dw we'll all get jobs

i believe bozos will hire me

[bold pier]

wow, this chat knows more about usps wage than google interview process

[swift falcon]

lol

[autumn iris]

[autumn iris]

it was because

there was some reddit post about it like last week

and a few people went to look up if it was real

if u google ups salary, it'll say like $20/hr

[autumn iris]

u can tell me more about google interview process though

[swift falcon]

tis fair

[autumn iris]

[swift falcon]

also, how competitive is it to be ups driver

do u gotta start as a bitch in the loading dock ?

[autumn iris]

it takes a long ass time before ur qualified

yeah

ur basically stuck working in the store for a long time

until a position opens up

[bold pier]

no, you start as a tier in one of the trucks

[final ore]

thats what we did in cs career too right? masters bachelors.. highscool...

[bold pier]

sorry I am gatekeeping

[autumn iris]

wtf

[final ore]

tbh its a huge investment for nothing...

[swift falcon]

evidently that doesn't mean shit anymore, you have to have the exact tech stack + 3-4 years of experience + impressive projects to even be considered

[autumn iris]

no

[final ore]

no one wants new grads from 2023 now.... everyone is looking for 2024 grads

[bold pier]

don't you coax me with your nitro emojis, fine I'll tell

[autumn iris]

[autumn iris]

but ur employed

[final ore]

how are you getting that experience if no one is interested in hiring you?

[autumn iris]

also is ur company sponsering u for h1b

[swift falcon]

exactly

[final ore]

I'm generally speaking

[autumn iris]

how does it even work if u work at a company

then hop before the 1yr mark aka before h1b processing

dont u get 2 chances instead of 3 (cause 3 yrs on opt)

[final ore]

im sorry you understood me wrong... im speaking in everyone's perspective... the worst case... not my case

[vital meteor]

google 2024 cancelled

[halcyon topaz]

gg

[swift falcon]

bout to apply tbh

[halcyon topaz]

what happened'

[autumn iris]

[bold pier]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[autumn iris]

i dont think google is ever on hard freeze

dont they always need senior people

[vital meteor]

let me just change my application for senior

[final ore]

oh they are.... I cleared till HR call and ghosted

[autumn iris]

isnt that just a ghost

[halcyon topaz]

what position

[final ore]

one of my friend was in teammatching I guess its 4 interviews and got ghosted

[autumn iris]

dont u qualify for this

[final ore]

2023 ng

[swift falcon]

ghostintg should be illegal

you should be able to report that shit

[autumn iris]

wait

isnt this intern or NG

[final ore]

tbh most of recruiters dont know 90% of cs resume and skills

[halcyon topaz]

"4 years of work experience"

[vital meteor]

you need 4 YOE to intern at google now

[autumn iris]

unlucky

im graduating in december

[final ore]

i see people blabbing in linkedin for gaining followers talking shit about our resume

[autumn iris]

lf job

[bold pier]

you can still get 4yoe if you work 120hrs a week at 3 different places

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

[autumn iris]

hopefully ill get callbacks

[swift falcon]

damn chefs make dick lol

[final ore]

if you are international... your chances are 0.0001%

[autumn iris]

[vital meteor]

so theres a chance

[autumn iris]

im not

florida man though

basically same thing

[final ore]

Visa sponsorship YOE, hire freeze alot of stuff is stopping you from getting a job

[autumn iris]

but im a new grad

[halcyon topaz]

is international that bad

[final ore]

yeah whenever you say i need sponsorship in the application, 90% of the time your resume is not even going to someone's hand...

[swift falcon]

Looking to Hire a Weekend Cook! Someone to Work Thursday-Saturday Nights! Looking for someone who is reliable and willing to learn!
could literally just do this for fun tbh

[autumn iris]

but wat if u go to MIT

[bold pier]

or you could stay home and look after your kids and wife

[autumn iris]

idk arent internationals at T4

not doing that bad?

or is it just bad everywhere

[final ore]

tbh MIT doesn't teach you org skills....

[autumn iris]

but its MIT

[swift falcon]

how dare you be reasonable

[final ore]

student from MIT and GSU need to do the same Jira tickets and has to learn for the first time

[autumn iris]

so GSU == MIT

[final ore]

because its not taught in university

[final ore]

it depends right?

[autumn iris]

idk

everyone says T4 is good

[final ore]

its the same IIT NIT hype from my country lol

[autumn iris]

at least for new grads, the name of the uni will get u the interview

[ornate cliff]

true

[final ore]

true..... sponsorship> location>school>skillset thats what i've understood

[autumn iris]

just give me a big tech job

[ornate cliff]

this is actually so true lmao

was listening to the blind podcast... former google head of recruiting said that verbatim

[autumn iris]

so wat if u have everything

[ornate cliff]

enjoy..... jane street?

[final ore]

you will establish a company by yourself.... I will do that

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

people selling their own farts are earning higher than me

[autumn iris]

i just need to do 1k leetcode

maybe we'll all get good jobs by end of the year

[halcyon topaz]

we got this

color OA is just implementing a back end API

[final ore]

highest job postings are seen around aug-sept and feb to apr... oct to dec are like dead months.... may be because of vacation period

[halcyon topaz]

or its just making requests to an API? idk

[autumn iris]

[halcyon topaz]

we all gonna make it!

[halcyon topaz]

what about leetcode

[final ore]

left the chat

[halcyon topaz]

anyone do the roblox coding assessment

[final ore]

if feel like upcoming interviews are mostly inclined towards technical skills and system design.... everyone knows that chatGPT-4 can solve most of them if prompts are accurate

[final ore]

you will be given some games that tests your cognitive ability

[halcyon topaz]

^

[lost ether]

If its coded where international == send reject email
Fucked regardless of school imo

[halcyon topaz]

its easier to do this i feel like if you have yoe

new grads its hard to just see how they would design a system cause they suck at that

[autumn iris]

[halcyon topaz]

and just coding in general in a large code base ususally

[final ore]

when i did my assessments i am supposed to make a toy that can with stand obstacles to reach from point A to point B

[lost ether]

Do i have to pay for that or can i find it

[vital meteor]

thats the car with the diff parts right

[final ore]

trueee

[signal jewel]

but it still takes time to go through all of it and learn

[autumn iris]

learning AWS teaches u system design

[halcyon topaz]

just do the aws cert and then spitball buzzwords

[autumn iris]

[halcyon topaz]

and youre good

[autumn iris]

thats wat i did

[signal jewel]

you are cracked

[autumn iris]

btw master students apply to same role as BS?

[final ore]

there is one guy in udemy from amazon that teaches system design.... Its pretty good course... I cleared my amazon system design with this course

its only like 19 videos *8 mins average

[signal jewel]

amazon system design?

[autumn iris]

wait wut

[earnest perch]

do you have a link?

[autumn iris]

NG system design?

[final ore]

yeah I have 3*45 2 are coding and 1 system design

[signal jewel]

wait.. amazon does sys design rounds?

[final ore]

they asked me to design a checkout system

[signal jewel]

send me link

[autumn iris]

he was sde1

i thought

[final ore]

yeah L4

[sullen hull]

Which cert? CLF?

[autumn iris]

L4 is sde1

[vital meteor]

is it sys design or like LC style parking lot type

[final ore]

i messed up work simulation so instead of 130 mins i got 345

no they asked me to design amazon checkout

like HLD

api's load balancing Database related stuff

[autumn iris]

wait but why did they ask u system design

do u already have experience

like before masters

[final ore]

in 2022 3*45 has a system design round

in 2023 they changed it to 2*60 mins

[autumn iris]

i never heard of new grads

getting system design though

my friend at amazon never had any

2yrs ago

[final ore]

if it is 1*30 its only assessment review

[autumn iris]

but he told me SDE1 almost never gets sytem design

[pine topaz]

its over leetcode monkeys

[final ore]

me and my friend both were asked to design something

[pine topaz]

time to work in UPS

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

design X

[final ore]

https://www.udemy.com/share/105lfQ/

this is the one I'm talking about

[autumn iris]

did u both have experience

like before coming to US

[final ore]

no she has 2 years but i have peanuts

[autumn iris]

u went straight from undergrad to masters?

[swift falcon]

you didn't?

[final ore]

yep!

[autumn iris]

i did

but i heard a lot of people from india work for like

2yrs before coming for masters

[final ore]

hunger for money

[autumn iris]

i got funded though for my masters

so thats kinda why i also did it

also graduating during covid wasnt a good idea

[swift falcon]

bro i just gotta have like a succesful website/ios app and then i'll get hired ezpz

[final ore]

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

the nightmare is designing google/ youtube or any CDN included

it raises a lot of single point failures concerns

[autumn iris]

im actually surprised ur askeed system design

[signal jewel]

this is cancer

[swift falcon]

bros here it is, the next big thing

[autumn iris]

[final ore]

you can find many interview experiences like me in glassdoor try searching in 2022 year

[signal jewel]

dear chatgpt

[pine topaz]

ask if every swe ng is gonna get a job in 2024

because the answer is yes

https://tenor.com/view/aura-aurav3rse-aura-wagmi-wagmi-pepe-gif-26684058

[autumn iris]

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[autumn iris]

i'll make it, u might

[swift falcon]

cya later guys, I'm off to make millions

[autumn iris]

just gotta keep doing leetcode 8hrs/day

then i'll get asked 2sum

[pine topaz]

u: sheeps leetcoding all day

me: CEO of new app called EcoTrack

[autumn iris]

i'd be happy with 70k/yr starting though

as long as its not bay area/nyc

[final ore]

tbh leetcode is more about quality than quantity....

[autumn iris]

wtf

[rain patio]

How do u guys prepare for sys design? I just know AWS stuff and nosql db’s

I don’t wanna sit there an spam load balancers to my interviewer

[autumn iris]

doing both

currently going through sean's list, spending roughly 1hr/medium

writing down everything+ whiteboard

then back to neetcode 150

and a few other stuff

my friends have been helping me though

[burnt orchid]

hire us when u become successful

[pine topaz]

💀

Job stability ✅
170k TC ✅

[narrow harbor]

trashman is fuckin cracked

[pine topaz]

Instead of leetcoding 8 hours a day, how about yall get a real job

you monkeys

My onlyfans video record perosn

my love

u get another job on the side

I will only accept handwritten resumes

applciations are open

@pulsar mural what are you doing tonight

[swift falcon]

mfer is gaslighting “average joe”

either that or average joe in cs is cracked and I’m bottom of barrel

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wait-jim-caddy-caddick-caddicarus-realizing-wait-a-minute-gif-26314295

[narrow harbor]

frs if he's average joe what are we

[fallen fox]

where rope

[narrow seal]

the man who wrote this post is a moron

[fallen fox]

yes

[narrow seal]

so ignore the fucking retard

[fallen fox]

i just like dooming

[narrow seal]

lmao

[fallen fox]

most in touch with reality cs major

[narrow seal]

also don’t worry about all of the people hired during pandemic by FAANG

they are slowly being managed out for better

things will stabilize

it’s just the way of the world

humans find a way

[fallen fox]

hopefully

[narrow seal]

u got this bro

i believe in all of us here

WAGMI

exactly i just posted it because that’s the same guy who made the doomer post about the golden age of cs

i think if you look at his comment history

you’ll notice a trend

OP is a dickhead

dooming nah more like delusional

bro said accountants making 500k+ ☠️🙏

[pine topaz]

@elder forum did u ended up streaming

I cant anymore 💀

[narrow seal]

scroll up

[pine topaz]

like a recent post?

[narrow seal]

unless you didn’t know already the OP is a moron

no

this channel

[halcyon topaz]

dudes trying to reduce competition by making people rope

[narrow seal]

he said accountants make over 500k in another post

[pine topaz]

have u been in /r/csmajors

[halcyon topaz]

no

[pine topaz]

everyone literaly doomposts there

💀

[halcyon topaz]

i dont dare go there

i looked at cscareerquestions for 1 night

[pine topaz]

csmajors pop up in my reddit feed time to time so i sometimes check it out

[narrow seal]

blind is full of the biggest incels

these people were bullied in high school and think they can act like asses because they have some money

[pine topaz]

oh its by the same dude

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/15ot2r4/mass_saturation_in_cs_swe_has_caused_a_90_drop_in/

3 different posts

💀

[narrow seal]

he asked for comedy and put his TC ☠️

blind beyond hope

damn

i wanna have sex
TC: -30 an hour

[halcyon topaz]

idk why everyone wants a remote job tbh

[pine topaz]

no commute

[narrow seal]

so they don’t have to get up at 7 in the morning

so they can wank in bed

[pine topaz]

that too

[halcyon topaz]

going in person is fun 🙂

[pine topaz]

[rain patio]

Remote is hella chill

[pine topaz]

my co worker left for a 4 dayu work week remote job

im so envious

[narrow seal]

but the real reason i hate blind is because it makes me want to ropemaxx

this is ungodly money bro

[pine topaz]

u have to pee in a water bottle

[narrow seal]

Quant levels

[pine topaz]

or else u get fired

[narrow seal]

how would they know

[pine topaz]

ask beezos

[narrow seal]

the secret to immortality must be piss of sweatshop workers….

[final ore]

Anyone here gave tesla interview? I guess its the new era for FAANG combined

[pine topaz]

dont blionaires drink bloodof children

or sometin

[ornate cliff]

arent you a billionaire

lockheed mooning

[pine topaz]

my parents are oil barons, i just work at lockheed

not a billionarie till i get their inheritance

[ornate cliff]

wanna get married before they pass away?

[pine topaz]

theyll force me to sign a prenup

:l

[ornate cliff]

FK

your family is like succession

[pine topaz]

little do they know, i will use the wealth to help yemen kids and help yemen grow into prosperity and fight back angainst lockheed

[ornate cliff]

LFG

yemeni ppl are nice

they deserve prosperity

[narrow seal]

lockheed’s #1 opp

[shut thistle]

can amex help you accumulate wealth?

whats the TC?

[ornate cliff]

i have amex and it makes me spend spend spend

[shut thistle]

@pine topaz works at Amex

[ornate cliff]

he's secretly at Jane Street

[pulsar mural]

no thats me

u tagged the wrong yahkuna

[ornate cliff]

no youre at lockheed I have DMs to prove

[pine topaz]

no. we are paid drasticaly less than UPS drivers

[shut thistle]

opps

[pine topaz]

i work at amex

[ornate cliff]

nvm he innocent

[tardy geode]

[pine topaz]

best lawyer ever

[tardy geode]

i'll get resume rejected for even UPS driver role

[ornate cliff]

aren't you interviewing at 2sigma?

[tardy geode]

[tardy geode]

bruh what

nope

[ornate cliff]

you will

[tardy geode]

can't even become 2sigma office janitor

[pine topaz]

@o

kekw

whats ur tinder applications b lookin like

u need to get citizenship

[tardy geode]

Staff SWE @ McDonalds

[vital meteor]

[ornate cliff]

r u canadian

[vital meteor]

[ornate cliff]

L citizenship

[vital meteor]

It's not that bad

[ornate cliff]

true

thank you Canada for the opportunities

[wooden drift]

Hello everyone! I am new to this server. Got the reference from Tech Interview Pro. Anyone here can help me provide referrals to Google as a new SDE for their positions that opened up?

My apologies: I have just not been getting interviews since the last couple months hence asking for help. Let me know!

[ornate cliff]

positions that opened up?

[wooden drift]

yea. I mean a day ago

[ornate cliff]

new grad a day ago?

[wooden drift]

yea

[ornate cliff]

link pls?

[wooden drift]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3688802359/?trackingId=Z%2BMA7SmCRESj%2Byrd1XZLsw%3D%3D&refId=ByteString(length%3D16%2Cbytes%3D6599d679...5c00f491)&midToken=AQEWUzafDf08Yw&midSig=0wVvya0AEGeGU1&trk=eml-email_job_alert_digest_01-job_card-0-jobcard_body&trkEmail=eml-email_job_alert_digest_01-job_card-0-jobcard_body-null-h4pr5v~ll5zp9df~xs-null-null&eid=h4pr5v-ll5zp9df-xs&otpToken=MTMwNTFkZTUxYTJhY2NjNGIxMjcwZmViNDAxN2U2YjM4ZGNjZDI0MTlmYTY4YzYzN2JjZjAwNmM0YTVhNTlmNWY1ZDBkMmU5NDlkYWMwYzE0NmY4YTk5MjA0NDJkMjgxNTliOTAzZGY1NGYyY2RkMDE0MTEwYjBkLDEsMQ%3D%3D

https://www.google.com/about/careers/applications/jobs/results/101936747526398662-software-engineer/?src=Online/LinkedIn/linkedin_us&utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=jobposting&utm_campaign=contract

[ornate cliff]

DOOOOOOOOOOPE

[wooden drift]

🙂

[ornate cliff]

never seen a post asking for 6 months of experience

[wooden drift]

been prepping DSA since last 2-3 years. Would appreciate any leads

[ornate cliff]

does referral do anything for new grad at goog?

[lost ether]

It might guarnatee a resume read but in this market idrk 👀
Depends what rank the referral is from yk

[ornate cliff]

what's your resume like

[wooden drift]

yea. I'll share my resume shortly. Editing it atm

[ornate cliff]

i feel like this is for people who were laid off?

[wooden drift]

hmm why so?

[ornate cliff]

6 months of exp

[lost ether]

Or internship exp

[ornate cliff]

internship doesn't count tho

unless specified?

[vital meteor]

If it counted, new grads with 1 year of intern wouldn't be able to apply to <1 YOE new grad roles lol

[ornate cliff]

🇨🇦 taking over

@elder forum do you wanna compare resumes

you're so cracked

[tardy geode]

💀

[lost ether]

Which firm? 💀

[sullen hull]

May i have link plz, thanks

[tardy geode]

hertz

[hidden scaffold]

Idk guys, maybe im huffing on copium, but I feel like we are getting a new grad only google job post soon. The fact that they are posting a post for ppl with 6 months exp and others, makes me think they are getting all the folks with exp out the way before they post a job for new grads

Just so the new grad applications doesnt get flooded with non new grads with exp but cant get a job due to layoffs

[hollow flicker]

Yeah I fixed it lol I just hate dealing with anything on my phone

I wonder if this no name will offer me 75k

ILL TAKE IT BABY

[hollow flicker]

These companies are delusional

[split plaza]

I can get wanting big tech experience but this is such an arbitrary selection LOL

[sturdy forge]

How much does hertz pay

[tacit grove]

they've been reposting that exact same positiion for the past 3 months

I remember applying to that position like 3 months ago

[sturdy forge]

They don’t list the pay

So assuming hella low

Acc looks like around 100

But that’s poverty in SF

[hollow flicker]

yeah delusion

some other poor Willow Tree NG just got hired at ADP

are they shitty?

[rain patio]

^

[hollow flicker]

its a company that delayed all their NGs

that i was supposed to start at

but OHH THEY GOT BOUGHT BY TELUS SO OHH WELL

yeah basically

i was stoked on it tho

it was gonna be 90k in lcol :((((

[rain patio]

u still have the offer tho no?

[hollow flicker]

i feel like they are gonna rescind eventually

maybe im just dooming

[rain patio]

U can prob ask around in Blind

[hollow flicker]

but we all got to meet with one of the execs late July and she just did not inspire confidence

I mean I doubt anyone ACTUALLY knows atm

its all depending on if Telus OKs it

in 2024, also they just say "early 2024", which idk about you, doesnt make me confident either hahah

and i straight up asked "do you have any idea if this is a delay or cancellation" and the exec basically said "nah we don know shit"

[tardy geode]

i don’t consider amazon as big tech

its turning into a sweatshop

recently silent layoffs been happening there

[hollow flicker]

lol fug that

[rain patio]

Zon is a dictatorship

RTO or PIP

[hollow flicker]

Im not even sure ill go to Willow if this other job works out like

might not be worth it, their glassdoor is in shambles lolol

[obsidian crater]

didn't telus just layoff 6k people

[hollow flicker]

yeah they laid off a ton of people at Willow Tree too

[obsidian crater]

[hollow flicker]

12% of their staff or something

[rich prairie]

YOIU KNOW WHO NEEDS MORE SWE'S?

FUCKING DISCORD

[hollow flicker]

and they emailed us all saying "its fine your NG offers are safe" one month before they delayed us

[obsidian crater]

Telus the Canadian oligopoly

[hollow flicker]

so me all got leases

and we all got FUCKED

[rain patio]

Discord bar too high for me

[rich prairie]

i would really enjoy being able to do things in this platform without having the app crash out once a day

[rain patio]

I’m ngmi there

[rich prairie]

you seen the discord glassdoor lately?

went from great to some insanely bad reviews

[obsidian crater]

See the problem is that companies only want seniors

[hollow flicker]

its not goot

[obsidian crater]

Or staff

It's hard if you're mid level and insanely hard if you're NG

[hollow flicker]

Willows went from absolutely glowing to dogshit in the last 2 months

man i hope this no name is cool i gotta like ask a lotta questions in this final to make sure i wont be doing bullllshit

Agate Software

grant management software babyyyy

ohhh HUGE DUDE

ITLL SURELY EXCEED MY WILLOW TREE TC AND I WILL BE HAPPY

no bro

not fr

itll be way lower

its in lansing

[rich prairie]

yeah do you think it's a strategy to scare ppl off

or what

because on one side it's sorta understandable

on the other side it'

[hollow flicker]

no they just think they are correct

[rich prairie]

is a lot of generalization

[hollow flicker]

but they are not lol

[rich prairie]

I WILL SAY THO
that people not being able to shut the fuck up about this job market has definitely let to its oversaturation and adoption

[hollow flicker]

its pure generalization dude, tell anyone in the midwest that ups drivers make 100k even and theyy will laugh in your face

[rich prairie]

i wish we could be in the 20 year ago mindset where everyone in CS industry was super nerdy and niche instead of being a mainstream job market

40 years ago maybe

lol

what's that movie

[hollow flicker]

i would have never gotten into it 20 years ago so its a moot point

[rich prairie]

uhh

[hollow flicker]

id be a welder

[rich prairie]

id be uh

almost unborn

first mistake was not being born in the golden 1960's apparently

[hollow flicker]

same but if you put ME NOW back then

id be like not doing this computer shit i can almost gaurentee

[rich prairie]

ok like wargames

love that shit

lol

[hollow flicker]

yyeah

[rich prairie]

that movie makes me wanna be in the 80s

idc ong

lol

[hollow flicker]

lets go work for the dod during the cold war

[rich prairie]

Y

E

S

https://tenor.com/view/ohyass-gif-22214780

[hollow flicker]

this adp place better interview me

they hired another willow tree expired good cmon man cmon

[rich prairie]

👀

[hollow flicker]

simpleeee

SIMPLEEE

[rich prairie]

https://gyazo.com/bb589551cf2c4f42a394d585c9a61b01

fhudsaruiwheabljfjdsnk

fsxc

[obsidian crater]

what

[rich prairie]

tis cool

[hollow flicker]

what dat actually useful for

[rich prairie]

basically its an LM that interprets docs u feed it

like lets say you have 20 docs

full of info

put it in

and then you can ask the LM questions based on that

[hollow flicker]

i swear notes are barely useful to me, feels like advanced procrastination, so that IS cool

[split plaza]

this will be abandoned by Google in 1 year I can feel it

[hollow flicker]

^^ true tho

[rich prairie]

typical fucking google bro
bajillion dollar company cant bring 95% of the shit they start to market
and cancel a lot of shit even after annoucing

cant even make their #1 work properly (ads)

but as long as gmail and SEO exists

and drive

they are good

and YT

till they take it out back and kill it

anyone else unable to reach this?
http://www.careers.mitre.org/

[obsidian crater]

MITRE getting ddos'd

ironic

[rich prairie]

are they?

i just get a DNS error

[obsidian crater]

nah

probably just some outage

[rich prairie]

route 53 down 💀

☠️

[hollow flicker]

is the citadel OA ecliptically hard?

not that i wont get resume rejected after lololo

NICE

impossible for me but oh well

its all practice

[cloud zinc]

how hard is the roblox OA?

[hollow flicker]

I'll do it tmrw and lyk

Cuz I ain't getting that shit

[cloud zinc]

I have until the 24th to do it, but I usually do my OA's the day before or the day of the deadline

[obsidian crater]

Roblox OA is hard

[cloud zinc]

damn

[hollow flicker]

Potentially rng

[lucid stirrup]

Did u do the game or the gca ?

[hollow flicker]

I haven't done either but I'm gonna leave the game till last because it's tarded

[lucid stirrup]

Im sick of doing dsa questions so

Im actually happy about spending an hour on a stupid game XD

[grizzled bronze]

I actually got a $100 Amazon GC for testing Roblox's game assessment part, thanks to a survey thing they did through RippleMatch

[lucid stirrup]

Pog

[hollow flicker]

I love leetcode lucky me

Hahahaha

Bro dont do that just go bartend

[grizzled bronze]

it loads, just gotta leave out the 'www'

[rich prairie]

wacky

[rich prairie]

lol

We encourage you to regularly visit www.careers.mitre.org to view updated employment opportunities

these liars

[halcyon topaz]

I went on r/csmajors

[hollow flicker]

What the hell is "Salesforce developer"

[grizzled bronze]

they're doing good, now they just need to make viral tiktoks discouraging people from entering CS

[cloud zinc]

BRO AIN'T NO WAY

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[cloud zinc]

similar to software developer, except exclusively using Salesforce's programing language

which is similar to Java

I forgot the name of the actual language tho

[rich prairie]

A salesforce developer is someone who creates and implements a salesforce backend, creating and implementing apps, integrations, etc.
Salesforce is an incredibly complex and powerful tool that is meant to be a business information system onestop shop

[cloud zinc]

I managed to get an offer with them but declined due to a false sense of job security. "maybe I'll find a real job" type beat

[rich prairie]

check out https://trailhead.salesforce.com

i did a basic cert there

its interesting

[cloud zinc]

fortunately for me, they laid off a bunch of their developers a month after

so I pretty much dodged a bullet

[grizzled bronze]

it's still up, just gotta remove the 'www' from the url

[grizzled bronze]

does it increase chances of getting a job at Salesforce

[hollow flicker]

I'll get one at a no name next week mark my fucking words G

[rich prairie]

at salesforce? probably by a bit because it shows you have an understanding of their product

but to recontextualize the Q you're essentially asking if an AWS cert would help you get a job at AWS

salesforce certs are useful if you want to be a salesforce "manager/implementation/developer" at a company

make sense?

[hollow flicker]

Chatgipity ass story

[grizzled bronze]

However, as the tech industry continued to evolve, an unexpected twist emerged. News began to circulate that some of the early graduates who had triumphed over the "Two-Sum" problem and secured high-paying jobs were now facing layoffs themselves. The very companies that had once embraced them were now downsizing, and those who were once celebrated were now joining the ranks of the recent graduates in search of employment.

[cloud zinc]

O(n!) posts worst motivational wall of text. Asked to leave LinkedIn

[rain patio]

we have doomed so much that we are writing new grad fan fics

[pine topaz]

I understand that times can be tough for unemployed software engineers, especially during an economic downturn. Here are some suggestions and tips that might help you navigate this challenging situation:

Stay Positive and Patient: It's important to maintain a positive mindset and remain patient. Economic downturns are temporary, and opportunities will arise as the market recovers.

Continuous Learning: While you're searching for a job, consider dedicating some time to enhancing your skills. Online platforms like Coursera, edX, and LinkedIn Learning offer various courses that can help you learn new programming languages, tools, or frameworks.

Personal Projects: Work on personal coding projects. These can demonstrate your skills and passion to potential employers, even if they aren't commercial products. Open-source contributions are also valuable to showcase your collaborative abilities.

Networking: Use professional networking sites like LinkedIn to connect with professionals in your field. Attend virtual meetups, webinars, and conferences to expand your network and stay updated on industry trends.

[rain patio]

LOL

[hollow flicker]

Any of you try Lowes

They rejected me totally but I think they weren't rly NG roles

[rain patio]

Didn’t know Lowe’s was hiring

Outside of store associate

[hollow flicker]

they had a ton of swe roles earlier in july

i gotta check Meijer and Mcdonalds and Little Ceasars SWE roles again

i remember my homie got some of those last year haha

Lil Caesars would be so great damn just eat pizza awl day

Get my keyboard all greased

[hollow flicker]

Actually revature would be better I want that minimum training wage

So those places just feed on boot campers or WHAT

[raw plank]

Damn this actually a good story, I’m saving it

The last sentence tho

[tardy geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/981754288508375150/1081810437064114256/4x.gif

nothings worse than being in a dumpster fire small startup

[hollow flicker]

Tru prolly

[wooden drift]

Anyone has any idea when Amazon will start hiring new grads in the US? Do you think they may resume hiring this fall?

-_-

[bold pier]

CSCareers.Poet

[fallen fox]

june 2025

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-uchiha-gif-26358303

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/rope-mlp-tricks-rodeo-gif-8775086

[ornate cliff]

Day 2 at Google

Sold a Chromebook to a senior lady

Loving it here

[hollow flicker]

Are you not a swe there or something

I'm finna engineer the Za at Lil Caesars soon guys

The fuckin dilectible za

[ornate cliff]

Swe he says... Look at this comedian thinking I can be swe at Google

[hollow flicker]

You can! Wagmi

Wb McDonald's swe guys

That shit good?

[ornate cliff]

Crazy scale, interesting problems, free nuggets

I'm all in

[hollow flicker]

INSANE scale

Oh shit I gotta look at Dominos Swe roles

It's just beginning

Look for that pizza based swe role

[vital meteor]

There's a pizza chain in canada that unironically pays java devs 6 figures

[pine topaz]

Pizza Pizza?

No thanks

[hollow flicker]

Yeah I mean little Caesars I've heard is pretty good for where I'm at

My homie got an intern offer there some years back he said it was chill but now it's prob DP

3ddp

[fallen fox]

well im unemployed for ~8 months now

if i don't find something by the end of this year, i'll probably kill myself

[autumn iris]

[fallen fox]

0

[rain patio]

get warehouse or fastfood job

any money is better than 0 money

[halcyon topaz]

Hi

[rain patio]

or get a low paying tech support job like I did lol

[hollow flicker]

^ this is a real option

[fallen fox]

i work at it

[hollow flicker]

youll b fine guuys

[fallen fox]

it's not swe so i'm technically still unemployed and the pay is

[pulsar mural]

pug pls

[hollow flicker]

i dont even have that rn cuz im grinding

[pulsar mural]

pug pls

@fallen fox

[autumn iris]

Its not that bad

idk wat have u guys been even doing to bump resume/ interview prep

Or just only waiting for jobs to show up

[hollow flicker]

this

also doing networking online cause i live in hell

rich dad

[autumn iris]

No

[hollow flicker]

divorced parents

lolol

[autumn iris]

middle class, but i got full ride for bachelors+ masters from scholarships

parents dont really do anything for me

[hollow flicker]

"rich" is 110k in midwest

[autumn iris]

Yeah we're not rich

[hollow flicker]

i went to a shit school cause I was a terrible teenager

[autumn iris]

[neon perch]

Mind if I ask where?

[rain patio]

camera company in my town lol

[hollow flicker]

youre not gonna rope

if you do ill rope and find your ghost

youll get interviews man, apply to more no names

more no names now

[hollow flicker]

just research its not simple lol

[rain patio]

how long have you guys been on this earth and haven't gotten a SWE job yet? Is waiting 1 more year because of a trash economy really going to ruin your life?

[hollow flicker]

look at companies and really just check career pages

i found the place im doing a final at just researching companies near me

woulda never found it otherwise

[rain patio]

You can go to the company website of every business in your town/city and see if they have a career page idk

[hollow flicker]

just remember tons of people grind their life away doing the most unfulfilling shit for 0 money