#2023_grads

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rain patio
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Sometimes if u go viral

arctic orchid
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I think also the difference this year with recruitment is a lot of recrutiers got laid off at these big companies

tardy geode
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give me copium please

grizzled bronze
arctic orchid
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It baffles me that a company that big isn’t taking new grads

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Scumbag of a company

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I feel like theres infinite senior openings

unreal current
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How the hell were you able to add checkboxes for the Mckinsey OA?

quasi drift
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Is anyone here working for Lockheed ?

obsidian crater
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They don't want to train anyone or want anyone with any ramp up time

willow sedge
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i feel like they dont even want 2023 grads anymore...

obsidian crater
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They're basically wanting a dev who can build production ready code day 1 for $100k, 5 yoe or more KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

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TBH they can get away with it because mass layoffs

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wait this is kuro

willow sedge
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job hunting is making me depressed af. just got back from vacation ready to apply again and a day later it sucks already oml

obsidian crater
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I see you have lost your mind

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Via JavaScript

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taking the mern pill

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I got a team interview soon

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I gotta make it

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HM said I basically passed the technical interview

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Small company though, I need a big one

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true but it involves PHP 🪢

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Looks like mostly PHP, JS and some LLM/AI stuff in python

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PHP is like Java

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Barely anyone claims to love it

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But it's everywhere

pine topaz
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real

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post travel depresion is the worst thkng ever

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makes u question life

willow sedge
pine topaz
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camping?

willow sedge
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more so glamping lol got airbnbs

obsidian crater
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Apparently they use Elasticsearch, Redis, Grafana/Prometheus, MySQL yada yada AWS too

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But it's not in the SWE job app, it's in the SRE one

pine topaz
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hey as long as u enjoyed it 🙂

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im on FATFIRE

obsidian crater
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fake yahkuna

pine topaz
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50 percent withdrawal rate

obsidian crater
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real yahkuna can't say anything besides manul, stfu, bitch, dogesmile and WazowskiStare

arctic orchid
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barely slept

obsidian crater
willow sedge
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i did! it was amazing

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sand dunes, black canyon, arches, canyonlands, zion. + a 14er and antleope canyons

arctic orchid
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Im pretty sure its hard to be cop too entry level

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they mostly want you to work in the shitty crime ridden places

willow sedge
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im kinda getting desperate for a job i may apply to government stuff 😥

arctic orchid
obsidian crater
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^

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true

lost ether
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They might overlook weed

arctic orchid
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They def wont

lost ether
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Also depends last time u smoked pot

obsidian crater
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What about edibles

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so don't do thc when they drug test

willow sedge
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hence my problem with the government

lost ether
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Lol seems dumb, dont they use thc to treat ptsd ...

obsidian crater
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just like all the olympians who do PEDs but never get caught

arctic orchid
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having a chill government job with good salary > smoking weed

willow sedge
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like i’m fine getting tested at the start but i don’t wanna worry about getting tested after

arctic orchid
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what level of clearance?

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noice

trail tundra
shut thistle
ivory stratus
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is anyone learning anything on the side to make them more marketable?

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looking at learning python/pytorch

brazen cave
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I just talked w a recruiter n he said to get more certs and networking is the best way to get an interview. I just started dming recruiters/ people in the industry I have mutuals with on linkedin @ivory stratus

brazen cave
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That’s weird, just clicked on it @elder forum

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Need to fix that issue 😦

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oh nice kermit_think

narrow harbor
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i'm learning how to be more like able as a person

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not going well though

brazen cave
brazen cave
shadow pecan
narrow harbor
tardy geode
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does it look bad on the resume if you have 2 work experiences back to back of 6 months each

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?

tardy geode
trail tundra
rain patio
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Hello

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Are the May 2023s here?

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Bros are we fucked ? 😭

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Am I the only degenerate here that just smoked weed and went to raves and ended up graduating without an internship?

static quarry
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Dw about it i did internships and am still jobless

brazen cave
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U can network w bass heads they hella work in tech, add em on linkedin

sullen hull
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Same. Got a decent experience but no interviews. Its just market conditions, affects everyone

light cradle
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most of the 2024 new grad postings require that you graduate somewhere between december 2023 and june 2024. what will happen if someone graduated in may 2023? this requirement is kinda stupid no?

tardy geode
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also i have been suggested not to used school email on resume

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why is that so ?

west pagoda
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The answer to most questions about why companies do this and that including ghost, rescind, no returns, layoff, PIP etc is that companies do not really give af about you in any meaningful way.

solemn spire
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Is this group inactive cuz everyone starting to land a role?

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Slowly inactive

fallen fox
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🪢

solemn spire
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I need to debug my life

split igloo
raw plank
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I realized dooming is pointless and it’s probably just gonna hurt me in the future

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If u want I can start dooming again to keep the channel alive

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ngmi copium copium copium copium copium copium copium copium copium copium copium copium

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Expired copium copium copium copium copium copium copium copium copium

bold pier
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Guys I cleared technical screen in 11 minutes, first onsite after 5 months prayge prayge

wraith yew
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Just to suffer

rain patio
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are these a scam? whenever i see the email domain name isn't just the company's domain name it raises red flags

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like you'd rarely see someone at a company with just their first name as their email handle..

fallen fox
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scam

cloud zinc
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got rejected by Lockheed Martin and FIS within the same minute

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FIS said they rejected my application without looking at my resume. Which is annoying

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like we know that you do that, no need to remind me

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can't do it

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sunken cost

vital meteor
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No because I don't know what I could do

cloud zinc
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best I can do is look for gruntwork dev roles like sdet or web dev

raw plank
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Think about it, if u start minimum wage now you’d make the same amount of money as starting swe in a year KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION society moment

signal jewel
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bruh... how can these people not be more sussss skull4k

cloud zinc
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wire transfer

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this goon is a fossil

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There are better ways to present a scam. Nobody says wire transfer outside of old crime movies

signal jewel
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wtf is salary paid weekly? KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

fallen fox
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man people really be accepting "offers" like that

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without interviews

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🪢

cloud zinc
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Can't say they're dumb for accepting it because I've almost fell for a couple of job scams myself

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must be desperation clouding their eyes

signal jewel
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with the email address you could mostly tell if its scam or not

cloud zinc
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One time I received a "screening process forum" from a construction company for a software engineering role, Almost submitted the forum before an HR manager from the company told me that they never hired such people

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the scam was pretty involved too. Like these people made a fake job posting at my university's job board and they even made a fake website that explained the role in more detail. Their site design was practically identical to the real company's website

halcyon topaz
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Just apply to any job opening

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Sometimes the requirements aren’t even that strict

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My friend got a new grad job at geico after he graduated like 6 months later

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It’s def not over

raw plank
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Yo if I just start scamming people with fake swe job posts I won’t have to get a swe job myself thanospog infinite money

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How much does it cost for a LinkedIn job post? Who trying to invest

halcyon topaz
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I mean even neetcode got a job after 2 years of being unemployed

pine topaz
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mfer quitto do more leetcode

halcyon topaz
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And we’re only 3 months into unemployment

vital meteor
halcyon topaz
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Ya he got a job at google

raw plank
bold pier
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You had me at Fuck Leetcode

halcyon topaz
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You’re may 2022?

raw plank
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Dec 2022

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💀

fallen fox
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dec 2022 here

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wanna rope

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🪢

raw plank
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I think I’m close to OFFER

halcyon topaz
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Nice

raw plank
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Just had final interview with local company for swe , totally botched it but team said they liked me prayge

bold pier
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August is our month

halcyon topaz
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I think just keep@applying and it should’ve fine

raw plank
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I think my fbi agent had to finally step in and pull some strings, saw all the doomposting I’ve been up to KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

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Thanks bro I love you prayge

rain patio
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good luck

halcyon topaz
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see guys its not doomed

polar grail
vital meteor
bold pier
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Yo anyone has leetcode premium here? I want answer to a question :3

bold pier
arctic orchid
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this was the daily?

vapid oasis
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nah I think the daily today was to find the index of a target value in rotated array

obsidian frost
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Any reviews on Walmart Swe position ?

halcyon topaz
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did walmrt open a position?

signal jewel
halcyon topaz
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link or titel?

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title*

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swe II right

obsidian frost
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swe III

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There are quite a few openings

halcyon topaz
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ya i see now

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ty

bold pier
bold pier
halcyon topaz
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walmart careers

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i applied for the SWEII role

tardy geode
tardy geode
autumn iris
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finished AWS sht

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time to leetcode

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no ASlife

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was close

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but tbh i felt like

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i learned a sht ton from AWS

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good devops practices, a sht ton of system design, AWS services, how to do ML workflow

tardy geode
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gotcha

halcyon topaz
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I’m taking the GCP cert test soon xd

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Rope life

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Cloud and leetcode and chill

shut crescent
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hows august looking boys

rain patio
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This shit is tough

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I'm looking at LinkedIN for junior roles

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It's saying 40% have masters lmao

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like wtf??

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Black-hat hacking and the entrepeneurship in the dark web is looking good rn.

raw plank
rain patio
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bruh

raw plank
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too late 📸 😐

rain patio
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Remember what clyde said

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I need to stop talking to you forever

vital meteor
pine topaz
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wraith yew
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and its not looking good so far

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🪢

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vital meteor
bold pier
autumn iris
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that sounds about right tbh

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because most people in masters apply to jobs immediately cause its usually after a yr

abstract wadi
autumn iris
autumn iris
abstract wadi
halcyon topaz
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Lol august had a lot of positions open up wdym

autumn iris
abstract wadi
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and its acutally funded

autumn iris
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theres not many phd programs in canada lmao

abstract wadi
autumn iris
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canada has like 100 schools max, and literally

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5 are kinda known

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US has over 5k

abstract wadi
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yeah but US has like 100000 random schools

autumn iris
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isnt that a biotech company

rain patio
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Yes

autumn iris
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yeah

shut thistle
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does epic systems sponsor?

vital meteor
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I thought epic made games

autumn iris
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one of my friends got a job there

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last semester

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i think he started 90k

rain patio
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It’s a healthcare company

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The one in Madison?

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Yup

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I’ve heard mixed things abt it

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All of the reviews are negative lol

autumn iris
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all healthcare companies

rain patio
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Indeed, Glassdoor, etc.

autumn iris
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have negative comments

rain patio
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They pay a lot tho

autumn iris
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if its insurance or healthcare

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most reviews are bad

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why not move

rain patio
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I think sacrificing just around 2 years is worth it. Just grind those 2 years and if you want to leave leave.

halcyon topaz
rain patio
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Yes I would

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If I had no other offers

willow sedge
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i interviewed with them

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thought i did amazing at their oa. got rejected lmao

lost ether
rain patio
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We need a SWE union

bold pier
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Union deez nuts

raw plank
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Epic is sick

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They have a kool aid culture but it’s worth it

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Once I get a few years exp I’m reapplying

halcyon topaz
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Ramses is the 22-23 new grad to recruiters

pine topaz
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teamsters help us

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its joever

rain patio
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I already got rejected lmao.

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But yeah I would

rain patio
swift falcon
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like it says “already applied” but i somehow was able to resubmit or sth

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was still too trash ig

narrow harbor
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Epic's assessment is crazy long

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it's like 4 sections of math, logic, coding and i forgot the last section

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they give you like 4 hours to take it

swift falcon
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I didn’t even get that SadFast

narrow harbor
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there initial interview is pretty easy though

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their*

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they just asked me about a project on my resume and that's it

rocky yacht
swift falcon
narrow harbor
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nope lol

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i pretty sure i failed the assessment

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i also didnt want to move to madison

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they also do this thing with new hires where you have to physically go to like hospitals and shit to observe and learn

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so you can make better software from that

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the overall healthcare system is so ass in the US so I wouldn't be suprised

swift falcon
narrow harbor
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yeah in CA, besides not having a career, im pretty happy here with my family, partner, and friends and my current job as a barista is easy and fun sometimes

swift falcon
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tbh I don’t want to move there either

narrow harbor
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it's the only thing keeping me sane

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i remember when i first got the email from Epic

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I was like holy shit i could work for the company who made Fortnite

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then i got sad

raw plank
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dream career

arctic orchid
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Epic games is such good place to work

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my roommate from college is on the fortnite team

rain patio
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the sad part is that big companies always could afford to pay us big wages, but they'd rather scoop up the profits and give it to all their executives

pine topaz
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sad

swift falcon
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SAD!

willow sedge
fallen fox
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how long should you wait before reaching out

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completed the OA this sunday, recruiter said 1-2 weeks KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

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im really desperate KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION 🔫

grizzled bronze
willow sedge
dusky folio
narrow seal
dusky folio
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Nope.

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I just write a simple message if there’s any updates win my application

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It’s bothering me so much

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I gotta knowwwww

grizzled bronze
dusky folio
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I’ll wait now for her to get back.

pine topaz
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Nick white moment

halcyon topaz
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bro spaming the recruiter

narrow harbor
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idkkk if i was the recruiter id be like fuck this bitch keeps sending me a message everyday

halcyon topaz
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do tech stocks being up recently mean good things

vital meteor
lost ether
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Just normal hiring

jade rain
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when was the last time you guys gave a technical interview?
For me it has been a month..

narrow harbor
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only a month??? fuuuuuuuu

jade rain
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I might become inactive.. no money to pay for the internet..

dusty basin
bold pier
solemn spire
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bro where are the jobs

bold pier
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I am still perplexed by Tesla, Apple, and JPMC. Who the fuck are they even interviewing.

outer radish
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apple just scoops kids with really specific domain knowledge

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literally all it is

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if you apply to a team with tech that you've directly worked with they'll hire you

bold pier
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mfs, I will pray my JPMC recuiter gets worms in their cereal everyday !

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asked me for interview and ghosted twice

rain patio
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Apple interview is so rng

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I think if u have swift proj u have a chance cause I got hit up by them randomly

halcyon topaz
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apple has a new grad role?

lost ether
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What about if you are friends with jim cook CATMONCH

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Are they still tying to build the car

halcyon topaz
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what apple role you apply to

bold pier
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apple car won't work because they can't make it slower after a year

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I love capitalism

hollow flicker
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guys I have this offer that I am just super unsure on. It requires 30% travel and is all in person. Part of me wants to take it but the work seems pretty limiting in terms of actually gaining skills. Also they test you for drugs and alcohol which is yeahh

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And ive only been job searching since early july since thats when Willow Tree told all their new grads that our offers are basically gonezo

lost ether
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Arent they owned by the same group? CATMONCH

hollow flicker
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YES

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IDK BUT YES

narrow harbor
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okay so am i getting an interview or nah?

hollow flicker
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that is what it be saying

lost ether
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Idk, they do have some joint venture tho, dk what that means

hollow flicker
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they just say they may test you for metabolites

lost ether
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Conduent is the new Meta CATMONCH

narrow harbor
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im pretty sure they dont accept my grad date too

lost ether
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All im seeing from that are the start dates are so + so but no 2024 grad date reqs so CATMONCH

hollow flicker
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i swear dude this company sucks, they want their engineers to travel to customer sites to bugfix shit on site

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30% travel is literally dick

lost ether
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Sounds like consulting

hollow flicker
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Im just gonna bank on this other place im interviewing at i think cus its going well

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it isnt, its working on giant machines

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so you go decipher their logs and try to fix the shitty machine from what i gather

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while being 100% NOT INEBRIATED

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Idk how im even getting interviews, definitely is partially cuz im applying to no-name places but still...lol

rain patio
rain patio
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thanks

urban gulch
rain patio
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hmmm im afraid of looking too desperate

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cos thats what i am ahahah

grizzled bronze
urban gulch
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U could exponentially backoff ur checkins

urban gulch
grizzled bronze
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Some recruiters will also keep giving you false hope

hidden scaffold
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I would apply if mcdonalds didnt ghost me... twice🥲 PepeHands

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Ngmisad_kermit

rain patio
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All the baddies work at McDonalds in my area.

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Tryna rizz them up and lie that I'm an engineer even tho I'm unemployed

grizzled bronze
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shit happens on portals, don't get your hopes up unless you actually hear anything

rain patio
pine topaz
topaz notch
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Guys, do yall think is IBM god tier? mid tier?

rain patio
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a level below faang for reputation

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Maybe Amazon level

topaz notch
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still a good tier?

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for jumping to a FAANG level?

rain patio
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yes

arctic orchid
topaz notch
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working on C/C++ and OS things like threads and sockets on C

rain patio
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deadass

arctic orchid
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Someone else should chime in with more knowledge on that

topaz notch
topaz notch
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ty so much guys, really appreciate it!✨

autumn iris
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how much leetcode have u guys done

halcyon topaz
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121 problems

brazen cave
split plaza
rain patio
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Cracked

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Abt to hit 200 soon

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Still feel like a dumbass tho

kindred latch
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like 25

autumn iris
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Arent most of u guys graduated though

kindred latch
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most leetcode problems i do is through oa’s haven’t practiced much lately, grinded a lot in the past tho

kindred latch
autumn iris
sour epoch
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if i'm not gonna get an oa in the first place then why leetcode? 🤔

raw plank
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Never made it this far in interview process and haven’t been asked any LC

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All those hash maps for nothing

autumn iris
topaz notch
rain patio
autumn iris
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Are u able to do mediums at that point

autumn iris
topaz notch
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IMO a good tip if you are starting in lc watch at others solutions, this guy make yt videos about his solutions, start by doing your approach and meassure your times

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create an excel sheet and how much you time took you to solve it, youll get better in no time!!

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about the 14 patterns there are severals of them like turtoise and hare, dfs, max subarray, etc

narrow harbor
topaz notch
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i was on Google SPS Program and made 1yr as FT SWE @ Wikimedia, but I think what really interested the recruiter was that I made a simple compiler in C and made some projects in C/C++ using threads on Linux, actually they made some points on this

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my advice is that if your role has to be with unix or C put every single project you have

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on my other experience I just had things like: backend with Javascript

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so it matter that you've built some projects on your own like school or own projects or even internships, but my advice would be put some 1-week projects with the technologies required for the role

delicate sigil
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Does anyone have GHC grp link(discord)

topaz notch
narrow seal
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damn

delicate sigil
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Does anyone have resume worded premium subscription

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Just wanted to check and correct my mistakes in resume

tacit grove
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does anyone have interviews lined up? If so, with which companies?

narrow harbor
solemn spire
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Theres like 1500 apps in a day. Lets say 500 actually applied, there could be 100 more applying directly from company website. Begging recruiter in the dm is the only way

swift falcon
abstract wadi
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whats ur easy/med/hard breakdown?

vital meteor
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360 variations of 2sum gladge

woven berry
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dont lose your last bit of dignity begging to a recruiter

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just keep applyinhg

outer radish
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realistically these trading companies are gonna take like 30 NGs

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💀

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prob some MIT/stanford grad, research, 6 internships, inventeded and sold a startup for cash

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4.1/4.0 gpa

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oh shit

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gl fam you got this

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why tho

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just ddo the interview for the shits

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paid hotels n shit tho no

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ah true

fallen fox
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holy shit what are dec 2022 graduates supposed to do

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cant find anything

bold pier
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It'll be alright, all it takes is time. None of us would even remember these trying times in a few years inshallah prayge

forest dragon
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Anyone know what the Google application/interview process is like for sp24

marble flower
autumn iris
arctic orchid
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Their OAs are decent practice tho

bold pier
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Friends 2nd round interview in 90 minutes, pragye that I get isAnagram and 2sum prayge

rich prairie
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good luck

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personally im really frustrated that the technology market seems to make hiring basis determinations off of whether or not someone can remember a random classic problem or aglo that, without the pressure of an interview, could typically be implemented in less than an hour by just reusing the same code that was written 5000 times previously

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"so this job will make you do really interesting code and has nothing to do with what im about to ask you, please show me bogosort or else no job"

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like idk if the industry is just trying extra hard to make selection a pain in the ass in order to make themselves seem more exclusive and there as an achievement

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but seriously what a waste of money and time

lost ether
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They just need filters since there is so much supply; only reason why we have these dsa brain teasers

rich prairie
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then they should just cap their applications at like 100

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and call it a day

vital meteor
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It would all go to top schools we would have even less of a chance tbh

rich prairie
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well im complaining because i feel like there's no chance NOW and the process is so convoluted and time consumed that it's just depressing to be stuck in it

bold pier
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Like Tom Cruise once said "Be the change you want to see in this world"

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We need to fight against this system

rich prairie
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yeah well if I owned a company i'd never allow anyone to spend millions on a service or bunch of interviews that just tests applicants about stupid irrelevant algos

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and yes I realize the algos are important in real code, i say irrelevant in the context of "you're never going to have to write that sort algo from scratch with a time limit and your boss watching"

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like at least make it a more unique challenge

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i hate to reference LC but theres interesting shit there that isnt simplesort or 2sum

bold pier
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I mean if you choose the right questions algos can help you judge a persons skill. Although it shouldn't be the only criteria to hire a candidate

rich prairie
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the problem is, for many places it is the only thing, or it is a non-negotiable

bold pier
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Personally, when I interviewed I choose questions which had atleast 2-3 different solutions which can be worked upon collaboratively taking about trade offs and other things!

rich prairie
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mhm

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b/c otherwise the candidate and interviewer are just gambling

#

like what if they just dont know that one thing

#

it's almost as if programming is always done with an open web browser and involves continuous learning

river thorn
#

life is gambling

#

Choose rich parents

tiny epoch
#

has anyone gotten an OA for JPMC full time roles yet?(February start specifically) i keep seeing all these interns getting them, seems like they do intern stuff first

rich prairie
#

Yeah lemme just go obtain generational wealth likely originally obtained through scheming and shady business practices.

#

lol

rich prairie
#

👍🏻

#

well i never got an OA and the rejection was a boilerplate message so it felt like an auto reject

sullen hull
tiny epoch
rich prairie
hollow flicker
#

I'm fr considering just accepting this offer for 75k even though the work seems shit

rich prairie
#

honestly hiring culture has just become fucking toxic

#

i hate to use that overused phrase

#

but it really is

#

applicants are treated like machine parts

#

and we dont even get a email

hollow flicker
#

Yeah it's comically insane

#

I feel like I did everything right and still got fucked over lol. Had a great offer lined up but because Willow Tree sucks that shit evaporates 6 weeks before my start date

#

Literally passed on two offers

rich prairie
#

if your current offer is at all SWE related

#

or industry related

#

just take it for stabliity

#

long as it is relavent and resume building

#

else NO

hollow flicker
hollow flicker
#

It is a swe role but it's all Machinery related lol

fallen fox
#

paypal ng

rich prairie
hollow flicker
#

And other shit

rich prairie
#

is it PROPRIETARY languages?

hollow flicker
#

No it's cpp

rich prairie
#

pay is shit but go for it

hollow flicker
#

It's heavy travel so I'm just like so non plussed on it

rich prairie
#

its relavent

#

ohoohhoh

hollow flicker
#

Yeah I might do it

rich prairie
#

uh

#

damn

#

yea

#

TEMPORARY

hollow flicker
#

Yeah it's 30% travel

rich prairie
#

STEPPING STONE

#

better than what i turned down

#

i rejected a 60K job at my uni as I graduated

#

for zoom support

hollow flicker
#

I'm in the process of interviewing at another company that seems WAY better so I'm like fuckk

rich prairie
#

tell them you have a OFFER DEADLINE

hollow flicker
#

It seems like it's going well but you never know

#

Yeah I will if I don't hear from them today about the final interviews

rancid owl
#

Accepted an offer for 58k at middle of nowhere

hollow flicker
#

id take way lower salary for no travel, legit hate travel.

rich prairie
#

if they are paying for my travel idc

rancid owl
#

They agreed to let me do remote for first few months. So i’m grateful for that

hollow flicker
#

thats sick

hollow flicker
rich prairie
#

company card?

#

food covered?

hollow flicker
#

Lol yea some

rich prairie
#

yea

hollow flicker
#

not sure how much

rich prairie
#

enjoy your nights bro

#

expense that uber ride

rancid owl
#

Is it bad to think i can do better and continue applying even after this? How short time is too short to quit later?

vital meteor
#

yes

hollow flicker
#

Im gonna try and drag this out as long as possible, I should hear back from this other company today

vital meteor
#

you can always keep applying

fallen fox
#

take it and keep applying

#

leetcode at work

rich prairie
#

cry

raw plank
#

unless you live in hcol area thats not even bad

#

you could live on that for a while, get like a year at least and bail

#

unless you got like kids or smth

rich prairie
#

my areas COL makes 100K a base livable salary

boreal marsh
rancid owl
rich prairie
#

i hate the state of the economy

hollow flicker
#

Another thing about this place that sucks is i have to move so I cant really just keep applying

rich prairie
hollow flicker
#

i would rather not move a billion times

raw plank
raw plank
#

job hunt sucks rn, just get some experience and start applying when you're closer to a year at that place

#

thats my plan anyway if I get this offer

rancid owl
#

Only thing thats bugging me is i have very limited desire to move there. I don’t mind the pay but i will try to ask for fully remote in 2 months and see what they say. Till then i will relax for a bit and keep applying and doing leetcodr

raw plank
#

oh damn I didnt consider relocation

rich prairie
#

if they pay

#

ill go

raw plank
#

yea that changes things

rich prairie
#

otherwise cant afford

willow sedge
#

omg haha i got a friend that works there ima go get a referral lmao

swift falcon
#

remote?

#

hmmm

#

might be worth applying to then, thanks for the heads up!

willow sedge
#

you gotta get the referral before applying according to my friend

#

yeah but for some companies it can get me to the interview

ivory stratus
#

Guys i have a legit wuestion

#

Im in a QA Engineer position right now

#

When would you look at other jobs lol

#

I just started monday but fuck

rancid owl
ivory stratus
#

I mean i get to develop too but im worried about pigeonholing into QA and that companies wont consider me for SWE roles

arctic orchid
#

Just say youre Software Engineer in test

ivory stratus
#

I just had to take a job though cause ya know

#

Job market is 💩

rancid owl
ivory stratus
#

And it oays $70k so it's not bad

ivory stratus
#

But im trying to hop to an SWE role asap

rancid owl
#

Just keep applying, and goodluck

ivory stratus
#

Like the good thing is i still get experience in java and MSSQL

#

LIKE im doing developer stuff too but it's not my job title

arctic orchid
#

You're overthinking it just your a SDET

#

My buddy did that and transitoned into a SWE role pretty easily

#

If you're learning and doing stuff on the side you'll have no problem

#

I think it varies by company

ivory stratus
#

Yeah im basically doing manual testing, no writing code

#

Im doing dev stuff too on the side, im kind of double tapped but my official role is qa engineer

swift falcon
#

well it’s 2:38PM on wednesday

ivory stratus
#

Like im working still as a dev but it's not my official role lol

swift falcon
#

the day I was told would be when they decide who moves to second round

shrewd ivy
#

Exciting

swift falcon
#

not looking good

shrewd ivy
#

Oh no

tacit oak
#

I hate this job market. Can’t get anything, not even OAs

swift falcon
#

tomorrow at the latest or it’s gg

shrewd ivy
#

wagmi prayge

brazen cave
#

Are u guys using linkedin to apply or how are u applying

oblique harbor
#

Guys, Paypal posted a new grad job listing 2 hours ago. For those who have graduated within last 12 months and those graduating by spring 2024. so all us 2023 grads are covered

oblique harbor
oblique harbor
fallen fox
brazen cave
grizzled bronze
fallen fox
#

gonna get resume rejected anyway

#

KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION 🔫

oblique harbor
#

from the paypal job posting

tacit oak
#

Hope I don’t get resume rejected from PayPal

willow sedge
#

yoooo i got an oa

oblique harbor
#

yep. also, there are multiple paypal new grad listings for different locations. so don't just apply to one

willow sedge
#

nah lol that would be hella fast haha

rich prairie
#

we're considered EXPIRED homies

#

damn

oblique harbor
fallen fox
#

yes

#

yes

oblique harbor
#

oh yea i noticed that too

fresh mango
hidden scaffold
bold pier
#

guys second round went well, I should get onsite unless they were looking for next Albert Einstein prayge

hidden scaffold
#

Thats where tech screenings come in

#

I think if they reject before screening, it will be because of random selection

oblique harbor
#

Major might also be a reason for resume reject. My major is not computer science, but Computational Media (same department as CS), so that might be putting me at a disadvantage even if I have relevant skills and experience. My major is somewhat "related to CS" which meets the requirements of many job postings

hidden scaffold
# fallen fox internship exp, school name, etc

Fair though a lot of bigger companies like paypal don't really put that in their requirements. So wouldn't make sense for them to reject you solely off that as they could have just mentioned this and get a lot less applicants who don't fit this to not apply

halcyon topaz
#

if you get a lot of candidates with internship exp and good schools it bumps up the competition

#

so it depends

vital meteor
#

Everyone ex faang gladge

hidden scaffold
#

Plus we are not even mentioning the fact that a lot of companies don't even consider internships at all as some think they are not real exp.

rich prairie
#

total BS

#

once had an HR tell me experience doesnt count unless its paid

#

for volunteer work i had

#

unrelated field

hidden scaffold
#

Also not even mentioning the fact that recruiters barely screen resumes. What's the statistic, like most recruiters only spend an average of 5 seconds looking at your resume before they accept you to even begin the hiring process? And that's an average for every type of exp, not just entry

raw plank
#

imagine thinking new grad role means you just need to be a new grad PepeLaugh definitely not me before the doom arc

#

internships and experience are usually best indicators of who will pass those technical/behavioral/cultural tests

hidden scaffold
fallen fox
#

anyone other than FAANG+ internships = 🪢

#

might as well not put on your resume KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

rich prairie
#

saying experience doesnt count or is pointless just because it didnt come from a "big name" company...

fallen fox
#

you just get instantly filtered

rich prairie
#

if I was intelligent id care more about what they did

#

but that discounts what the person actually did

lost ether
#

Choose the one from lehman ofc gladge

rich prairie
#

clearly you gotta admit the way that this is being explained is a bad way of doings things

#

actually caring about their capabilties, accomplishments, and what they did at their previous employment

rain patio
#

Man this job market is literally Tinder

raw plank
#

We got a new one boys

#

Jokes aside bro that’s 100% true and it’s frustrating af and that’s why lots of ppl doom

#

I have no intern exp and it really feels pointless applying sometimes

vital meteor
rich prairie
#

literally doesnt even exist in my state

#

i think unpaid intern is outlawed in CA now

#

well not everyone has the luxury of being able to work for free

#

no offence

#

so it was part time

#

ok

#

well i didnt know that

#

anyway

#

something

#

something

#

something

#

economy bad

halcyon topaz
#

are you terry davis

rich prairie
#

no

#

sorry

#

to disappoint

halcyon topaz
#

cloud cert courses are so boring

rich prairie
#

IKR

#

ACTIVELY STUDYING EXAM PREP FOR AWS SAA

hidden scaffold
halcyon topaz
#

im doing the associate GCp cert

#

lmaoo

#

its boring af

rain patio
#

How is there no positions and the birth rate is declining?

#

Economists. help please

rich prairie
#

POPULATION is not declining

raw plank
hidden scaffold
obsidian crater
#

yeah why hire NG in US for 100K when you can hire one in India for 25K

rich prairie
#

quality

#

ability to communicate

#

uh

#

hours

obsidian crater
#

Outside of hours none of those are valid complaints

rich prairie
#

being able to literally talk to them during the day

#

i guess it depends on experience

#

ive seen contracters do piss poor jobs

obsidian crater
#

The quality of candidates from top colleges in India is quite good

#

So FAANG and Quants can hire from those

rich prairie
#

i guess our contracters just sucked XD

rain patio
#

Indian English speakers communicate very well though. And they grind hard af on Leetcode and school

obsidian crater
#

I mean if you're contracting from witch yeah they suck

rich prairie
#

they are amazing programmers ill give them that

obsidian crater
#

WITCH is a body shop so they take anyone who can breathe

rich prairie
#

dang

#

LOL?

fallen fox
rich prairie
#

so like modern USA GOV hiring

fallen fox
#

🪢

obsidian crater
#

Not exactly but kind of, they mass hire in India at piss poor wages

raw plank
rich prairie
#

do we thinkn thats exploitation

obsidian crater
#

No

rain patio
#

It's just capitalism bruh

obsidian crater
#

A lot of tech companies pay really good wages... for India

#

Like FAANG or Quants pay upto 30-50K USD which is basically like making 200k

rain patio
#

Either way if the situation gets worse, crime will happen. Cyberpunk Night City is otw.

rich prairie
#

so

#

move to india?

rain patio
#

NYC and WA too

rich prairie
#

yeah

#

id say detroit but they dont count since they lost all their density to population flight

#

CHICAGO

wet jacinth
#

How's the job search going people? Any improvement?

rich prairie
#

can be added

#

no

#

except paypal

#

no

obsidian crater
#

It's so bad

#

there are no jobs

wet jacinth
rich prairie
wet jacinth
#

Someone just put me down already HideThePain

hidden scaffold
obsidian crater
#

same

rich prairie
rain patio
obsidian crater
#

Even EU is way cheaper than US

rich prairie
#

run away from linkedin job posts

#

use something else

#

simlify

#

etfc

obsidian crater
#

Eu salaries are like 50-80K for swe

wet jacinth
hidden scaffold
rich prairie
#

international corporate lawyers make a lot of fucking money

#

let them deal with it

#

they deserve the pain for picking that field

obsidian crater
#

heh I'm depressed af

#

can't get a fucking job

hidden scaffold
#

Haha fair, idk how international law suits work so it may be a lot different than I am imagining

obsidian crater
#

rope approaching

wet jacinth
#

low key, I wish I stayed in India sad_kermit

rich prairie
#

are u in US

wet jacinth
#

yes

rich prairie
#

sponsor?

hidden scaffold
wet jacinth
rich prairie
#

are u sponsored on visa

obsidian crater
#

I think the worst part is that all my friends got jobs so easily last year

#

Now I can't find shit this year

hidden scaffold
#

Sucks having to apply for a potential job to go through a months long waiting and interview game just to get rejected and do it all over again

rich prairie
#

smh

obsidian crater
#

Dying of jealousy here as my friend drives a $50K car while having not even completed blind75

wet jacinth
rain patio
rich prairie
#

;-;

wet jacinth
obsidian crater
#

nah

#

he graduated last year

hidden scaffold
obsidian crater
#

all of my friends who graduated last year make at least 100k in their jobs

hollow flicker
#

i had a fucking offer secured and it evaporated

bold pier
hollow flicker
#

feels bad

wet jacinth
#

I do contests sometimes on LC.

obsidian crater
#

LC contests are so hard

#

Do you use pyton?

wet jacinth
#

yes

#

okay

hidden scaffold
#

Are lc contests even worth it? Do they even make you better at leetcode versus just practicing leetcode by yourself

obsidian crater
#

LC contests are weird

wet jacinth
#

I usually solve 3/4, did 4/4 a couple of times.

obsidian crater
#

LC contests feel a lot different from blind75

wet jacinth
#

tbh, I never did blind75

obsidian crater
#

LC contests as of late feel like they have turned into competitive programming - lite instead of data structures + algos

rich prairie
#

good

obsidian crater
#

Wouldn't call it good

rich prairie
#

it's my opinion

obsidian crater
#

fair

hidden scaffold
#

Do the questions on lc contests ever even accurately represent the type of questions that you would get at an interview tho? I have heard a lot of them make you do weird algorithms that you learned back in calc

obsidian crater
#

LC contests aren't math heavy

#

Other programming contests are

obsidian crater
#

New York

hidden scaffold
rain patio
#

Bruh

rich prairie
#

which city is more disgusting?

rain patio
#

No shit that's why they are making 100k at least

obsidian crater
#

I mean most of them are making more like 130k

rich prairie
#

is NYC top?

obsidian crater
#

Not all of them live in NYC

rich prairie
#

nyc 130k is min wage

obsidian crater
#

Some work in NJ, another Boston, another Bay and others remote

rich prairie
#

id rather make 60k and live in a town of 5000

obsidian crater
#

130k isn't min wage in NYC

#

lol

rich prairie
#

lolwut

obsidian crater
#

average income in nyc is 65k or something

hidden scaffold
obsidian crater
#

just don't live in NYC?

obsidian crater
#

live in NJ and take a 20 min train

rich prairie
#

rent not fent

#

neither, it's partly sarcastic nested in the reality of their horrendous COL

#

obv 130k is nice and comf living but in the context of NYC / LA / SF, it is not nearly as much as people think it is

chilly burrow
rich prairie
#

nice

chilly burrow
#

Like my savings aren't that much

rich prairie
#

and the worst part is COL just keeps rising

chilly burrow
#

(50k ish)

#

But it's still definitely livable lol

rain patio
rich prairie
#

mhm

chilly burrow
#

Yeah @rich prairie what r u even sayin

rich prairie
#

??

chilly burrow
#

Do u knk wat median income in nyc is

#

130k is def comfortable living

rich prairie
#

yes, somebody just posted it

#

i literally

#

just ack'ed that

chilly burrow
#

So making 130k is very livable

rain patio
#

Also when we refer NYC. I'm thinking that the job is in Manhattan. And that you have to live relatively close there. Cause if you live in other boroughs the commute time will be too long

chilly burrow
#

*if

#

Also no guarantees

#

Depends on stock price and all dat

bold pier
chilly burrow
#

Noy that I know of

#

0

#

I'm a new grad

rich prairie
rich prairie
#

christ

chilly burrow
#

Are u Canadian?

#

Oh

#

I thot u wer

#

Cuz of the "eh"

#

Honestly it's a lot of luck as well

pine topaz
#

nize ur beak

#

buddy

#

@pulsar mural

vital meteor
chilly burrow
#

They were hiring new grads

pulsar mural
#

How do I increase my luck @chilly burrow

#

allow preparation to meet opportunity hopium

chilly burrow
#

Recruiting in 2022 helped

hollow flicker
#

imma rope if i dont get this shitty ass job

#

is it disasterous to accept an offer i realllyy dont want and ghost them in a week if i get this other one i REALLY do want

#

ill surely get black listed

#

by the first guys

lost ether
#

Is the bad compamy f500? 👀

hollow flicker
#

lets see

#

so no i dont think so

lost ether
#

Yeah, if u have offer on company u want, lock it in before reneging

gloomy terrace
#

Series A startup wants to give me 250k lolll

hollow flicker
#

how do you find start ups to apply to guys

gloomy terrace
#

Headhunter reached out

lost ether
#

Check Ycombinator

hollow flicker
gloomy terrace
#

It’s a good backup if nothing else works out

hollow flicker
#

i got the letter saturday and it must be signed tomorrow

#

so Im probably gonna sign, finish this final interview and if it works reneg? idk dud

#

the amount of travel at this place is gonna make me rip my dick off if i actually stay lol

lost ether
#

Yeah, u cant do any meaningful with just 1 week into a job anyways

hollow flicker
hollow flicker
#

I gotta get this drug test pushed back maximally far or else that's not happenin

#

The fact that it's an alcohol test too hahaha

vital meteor
#

What's wrong with alcohol tf

#

Do they know prohibition ended

tacit oak
#

For me

hollow flicker
fallen fox
#

rope fuel for expired 2023 grads

#

🪢

rain patio
#

I MADE IT TO ROUND 2!!!!!!!

#

Big wins

#

GIV JOB PLZ

hollow flicker
#

I too am in round 2 but the anxiety just multiplies

#

I actually want dis one a lot it sounds kinda fun

#

But you got this

rain patio
#

I really hope so lol

hollow flicker
#

I swear this would be so sick cuz I've only been searching for a month

rain patio
#

It's kinda funny because it seems like they are doing the reverse of a normal interview process. My first interview was a technical interview, and the second is more of a company fit interview. I have to give a presentation on why I'm a good fit for the job lol

hollow flicker
#

Since I only got notified that my job was done for a month go.

hollow flicker
rain patio
#

Me during the presentation:

#

gib money

vital meteor
hollow flicker
#

Yeah fr. I think I'll make it to the final on this job but nothing is certain

rain patio
hollow flicker
#

Nothing seems off and I havent fucked anything up I think

rain patio
#

They're hiring 6 people for the position, and the first round interviewed 16 people...

hollow flicker
#

Yeah I think the place I'm at is hiring 15 people for various similar positions so fingers fucking crossed for both of us

rain patio
#

The funny thing is that this place is literally by my house lmao

hollow flicker
#

Oh my lord that's sick

#

I am moving my ass 1 hr away if I get this so not bad

rain patio
#

yeah not bad at all!

hollow flicker
#

Dude I just feel like the first 2 interviews were so light I'm like wtf is taking them multiple days to hit me up about next steps

#

I'm just being impatient

#

And I did well on their little oa thing so

narrow seal
#

would anybody mind helping me with a leetcode question? my code seems to be perfectly executing in VScode and Replit, but the challenge keeps throwing errors???

#

(power of two)

#

(this is also my very first leetcode problem so bear with me here)