#2023_grads
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I think also the difference this year with recruitment is a lot of recrutiers got laid off at these big companies
give me copium please
I don't think we anticipated any FAANG like Microsoft to have new grad anyway, and Dell sucks
Bruh why Microsoft is huge one of the biggest product suites among the fanngs crazy there’s no room
It baffles me that a company that big isn’t taking new grads
Scumbag of a company
I feel like theres infinite senior openings
How the hell were you able to add checkboxes for the Mckinsey OA?
Is anyone here working for Lockheed ?
It's because companies want someone skilled for cheap
They don't want to train anyone or want anyone with any ramp up time
i feel like they dont even want 2023 grads anymore...
They're basically wanting a dev who can build production ready code day 1 for $100k, 5 yoe or more 
TBH they can get away with it because mass layoffs
wait this is kuro

job hunting is making me depressed af. just got back from vacation ready to apply again and a day later it sucks already oml
I see you have lost your mind
Via JavaScript
taking the mern pill
I got a team interview soon
I gotta make it
HM said I basically passed the technical interview
Small company though, I need a big one
true but it involves PHP 🪢
Looks like mostly PHP, JS and some LLM/AI stuff in python
PHP is like Java
Barely anyone claims to love it
But it's everywhere
where did u go
real
post travel depresion is the worst thkng ever
makes u question life
5 national parks in colorado/utah
camping?
more so glamping lol got airbnbs
Apparently they use Elasticsearch, Redis, Grafana/Prometheus, MySQL yada yada AWS too
But it's not in the SWE job app, it's in the SRE one
fake yahkuna
50 percent withdrawal rate
real yahkuna can't say anything besides manul, stfu, bitch,
and 
dont forget 
I went real camping on the ground this weekend worst experience ever
barely slept

i did! it was amazing
sand dunes, black canyon, arches, canyonlands, zion. + a 14er and antleope canyons
Im pretty sure its hard to be cop too entry level
they mostly want you to work in the shitty crime ridden places
im kinda getting desperate for a job i may apply to government stuff 😥
The success rate is higher, but their processes move slow cus its government
They might overlook weed
They def wont
Also depends last time u smoked pot
hence my problem with the government
Lol seems dumb, dont they use thc to treat ptsd ...
yeah
having a chill government job with good salary > smoking weed
like i’m fine getting tested at the start but i don’t wanna worry about getting tested after
ive never seen him formulate a proper sentence
they/them
is anyone learning anything on the side to make them more marketable?
looking at learning python/pytorch
Mm I just made a website portfolio that displays my graphic design, working to implement some personal projects to the site https://des---plaines.com/
Cargo
I just talked w a recruiter n he said to get more certs and networking is the best way to get an interview. I just started dming recruiters/ people in the industry I have mutuals with on linkedin @ivory stratus
preciate it!
This is fire
Thank you, I appreciate it 🫶🏽
Just be ursself I’m sure ur a cool person
kuna is my mood @pulsar mural
❤️
does it look bad on the resume if you have 2 work experiences back to back of 6 months each
?
cool website
No?
you asking or telling
He is telling you no, and added a question mark because he is not sure why that would be the case (it looking bad on resume)
Hello
Are the May 2023s here?
Bros are we fucked ? 😭
Am I the only degenerate here that just smoked weed and went to raves and ended up graduating without an internship?
Dw about it i did internships and am still jobless
nah me too dawg
U can network w bass heads they hella work in tech, add em on linkedin
Same. Got a decent experience but no interviews. Its just market conditions, affects everyone
most of the 2024 new grad postings require that you graduate somewhere between december 2023 and june 2024. what will happen if someone graduated in may 2023? this requirement is kinda stupid no?
The answer to most questions about why companies do this and that including ghost, rescind, no returns, layoff, PIP etc is that companies do not really give af about you in any meaningful way.
🪢
I need to debug my life
prob moved over to 2024 grad / got a job / or just gave up 😢
I realized dooming is pointless and it’s probably just gonna hurt me in the future
If u want I can start dooming again to keep the channel alive
ngmi

Expired


Guys I cleared technical screen in 11 minutes, first onsite after 5 months

goodluck!
Still here
Just to suffer
are these a scam? whenever i see the email domain name isn't just the company's domain name it raises red flags
like you'd rarely see someone at a company with just their first name as their email handle..
scam
got rejected by Lockheed Martin and FIS within the same minute
FIS said they rejected my application without looking at my resume. Which is annoying
like we know that you do that, no need to remind me
can't do it
sunken cost
No because I don't know what I could do
best I can do is look for gruntwork dev roles like sdet or web dev
Think about it, if u start minimum wage now you’d make the same amount of money as starting swe in a year
society moment
bruh... how can these people not be more sussss 
wire transfer
this goon is a fossil
There are better ways to present a scam. Nobody says wire transfer outside of old crime movies
wtf is salary paid weekly? 
Can't say they're dumb for accepting it because I've almost fell for a couple of job scams myself
must be desperation clouding their eyes
was the domain name of the email address correct?
with the email address you could mostly tell if its scam or not
One time I received a "screening process forum" from a construction company for a software engineering role, Almost submitted the forum before an HR manager from the company told me that they never hired such people
the scam was pretty involved too. Like these people made a fake job posting at my university's job board and they even made a fake website that explained the role in more detail. Their site design was practically identical to the real company's website
Just apply to any job opening
Sometimes the requirements aren’t even that strict
My friend got a new grad job at geico after he graduated like 6 months later
It’s def not over
Yo if I just start scamming people with fake swe job posts I won’t have to get a swe job myself
infinite money
How much does it cost for a LinkedIn job post? Who trying to invest

I mean even neetcode got a job after 2 years of being unemployed
And we’re only 3 months into unemployment
Anything is possible then 
Ya he got a job at google
8 for dec 2022 grads 1 year for may 2022 
You had me at Fuck Leetcode
You’re may 2022?
I think I’m close to OFFER
Nice
Just had final interview with local company for swe , totally botched it but team said they liked me 
August is our month
I think just keep@applying and it should’ve fine
I think my fbi agent had to finally step in and pull some strings, saw all the doomposting I’ve been up to 
Thanks bro I love you 
good luck
see guys its not doomed
Nah u need to be hit by truck for that
Shia is right 
yes 
Yo anyone has leetcode premium here? I want answer to a question :3
https://leetcode.com/problems/analyze-user-website-visit-pattern/
Java solution for this pls
nah I think the daily today was to find the index of a target value in rotated array
Any reviews on Walmart Swe position ?
did walmrt open a position?
yeah there are postings for immediate hire
Thanks a lot, no it's a tagged question for one of my upcoming interviews
where do you see? o.o
Moxion tehcnologies rejected me in like an hour wtf
how do you know its for immediate hire
finished AWS sht
time to leetcode

no 
was close
but tbh i felt like
i learned a sht ton from AWS
good devops practices, a sht ton of system design, AWS services, how to do ML workflow
gotcha
hows august looking boys
This shit is tough
I'm looking at LinkedIN for junior roles
It's saying 40% have masters lmao
like wtf??
Black-hat hacking and the entrepeneurship in the dark web is looking good rn.
What is blackhating 
career ending typo
bruh
too late 📸 😐
Never ping me again sawyer
Remember what clyde said
I need to stop talking to you forever
This song reminds me of all the OAs I've taken 
I will not force my relationship unto you and you are free to take Clydes advice. But, please before you go coop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0azOIk0Kvg
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I am always here for you, no matter what happens, we had good times together Coop.
almost a 3rd of it is over
and its not looking good so far
🪢
This is what every rejection letter feels like as an expired good 
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We are only 6 business days in, keep hope
theres a lot of master students
that sounds about right tbh
because most people in masters apply to jobs immediately cause its usually after a yr
masters is just like jumping through a hoop after ur BS

most people who are masters are internationals coming on visa
i think its more commont to do a msc in canada
i thought you a full time?
Lol august had a lot of positions open up wdym
theres barely any MSc in canada compared to the US
but all the unis have msc and you need it as a requirement for phd
and its acutally funded
theres not many phd programs in canada lmao
U of T McGill UBC if ur from canada ur likely applying to those
yeah but US has like 100000 random schools
isnt that a biotech company
Yes
yeah
does epic systems sponsor?
I thought epic made games
It’s a healthcare company
The one in Madison?
Yup
I’ve heard mixed things abt it
All of the reviews are negative lol
all healthcare companies
Indeed, Glassdoor, etc.
have negative comments
They pay a lot tho
I think sacrificing just around 2 years is worth it. Just grind those 2 years and if you want to leave leave.
We need a SWE union
Union deez nuts
Epic is sick
They have a kool aid culture but it’s worth it
Once I get a few years exp I’m reapplying
Ramses is the 22-23 new grad to recruiters
Same lmao. I solved the questions but I guess I took too long in the timer.
i got rejected twice, I kind of glitched the second app tbh
like it says “already applied” but i somehow was able to resubmit or sth
was still too trash ig
Epic's assessment is crazy long
it's like 4 sections of math, logic, coding and i forgot the last section
they give you like 4 hours to take it
I didn’t even get that 
there initial interview is pretty easy though
their*
they just asked me about a project on my resume and that's it
Half my rave group are bassheads and work in tech lmao
so did u get offer or sth?
nope lol
i pretty sure i failed the assessment
i also didnt want to move to madison
they also do this thing with new hires where you have to physically go to like hospitals and shit to observe and learn
so you can make better software from that
the overall healthcare system is so ass in the US so I wouldn't be suprised
yeah in CA, besides not having a career, im pretty happy here with my family, partner, and friends and my current job as a barista is easy and fun sometimes
tbh I don’t want to move there either
it's the only thing keeping me sane
i remember when i first got the email from Epic
I was like holy shit i could work for the company who made Fortnite
then i got sad
dream career
Epic games is such good place to work
my roommate from college is on the fortnite team
the sad part is that big companies always could afford to pay us big wages, but they'd rather scoop up the profits and give it to all their executives
sad
SAD!
i know one that got a job at riot and has since deserted our rave fam
how long should you wait before reaching out
completed the OA this sunday, recruiter said 1-2 weeks 
im really desperate
🔫
send a follow up daily untiil they reply back to you
i waited three weeks for my rejection 🤩
That’s something I’m doing. The recruiter said she’ll get back to me with the interview details. It’s been 1 week. So I’m emailing her every damn day.
i heard some people here been waiting a year with no reply
Nope.
I just write a simple message if there’s any updates win my application
It’s bothering me so much
I gotta knowwwww
you should give it a week between follow ups
I’ll wait now for her to get back.
bro spaming the recruiter
idkkk if i was the recruiter id be like fuck this bitch keeps sending me a message everyday
do tech stocks being up recently mean good things
Not necessarily but we can hope 
Just normal hiring
when was the last time you guys gave a technical interview?
For me it has been a month..
only a month??? fuuuuuuuu
22nd May

I might become inactive.. no money to pay for the internet..
Good. Now you can touch grass
that also costs money these days
bro where are the jobs
I am still perplexed by Tesla, Apple, and JPMC. Who the fuck are they even interviewing.
apple just scoops kids with really specific domain knowledge
literally all it is
if you apply to a team with tech that you've directly worked with they'll hire you
mfs, I will pray my JPMC recuiter gets worms in their cereal everyday !
asked me for interview and ghosted twice
Apple interview is so rng
I think if u have swift proj u have a chance cause I got hit up by them randomly
apple has a new grad role?
what apple role you apply to
guys I have this offer that I am just super unsure on. It requires 30% travel and is all in person. Part of me wants to take it but the work seems pretty limiting in terms of actually gaining skills. Also they test you for drugs and alcohol which is yeahh
And ive only been job searching since early july since thats when Willow Tree told all their new grads that our offers are basically gonezo
Arent they owned by the same group? 
okay so am i getting an interview or nah?
that is what it be saying
Idk, they do have some joint venture tho, dk what that means
they just say they may test you for metabolites
Whats ur grad date for the applicatiob u listed
Conduent is the new Meta 
dec 2022 lol
im pretty sure they dont accept my grad date too
All im seeing from that are the start dates are so + so but no 2024 grad date reqs so 
i swear dude this company sucks, they want their engineers to travel to customer sites to bugfix shit on site
30% travel is literally dick
Sounds like consulting
Im just gonna bank on this other place im interviewing at i think cus its going well
it isnt, its working on giant machines
so you go decipher their logs and try to fix the shitty machine from what i gather
while being 100% NOT INEBRIATED
Idk how im even getting interviews, definitely is partially cuz im applying to no-name places but still...lol
how many follow ups do you think should be enough before youre considered rejected?
2 to 3, 1 week apart
thanks
U should probably just keep following up until ur actually rejected
Some recruiters will perma ghost
U could exponentially backoff ur checkins
That’s a good point
try another branch 
All the baddies work at McDonalds in my area.
Tryna rizz them up and lie that I'm an engineer even tho I'm unemployed
shit happens on portals, don't get your hopes up unless you actually hear anything
Oof. CA? It's tough out there. I went to a walmart in LA and legit saw at least 10 people shoplifting and not scanning groceries.
you are an epxired goods 
Guys, do yall think is IBM god tier? mid tier?
yes
IBM produces straight bloat ware
sadly, but the project I'm on is realated to storage scalation on the cloud. you think is good? or should i reject the offer?
working on C/C++ and OS things like threads and sockets on C
ibm quantum team is god tier
deadass
I’m definitely the wrong person to ask but I bet that position is a really good way to pivot to a company like Amazon, snowflake, etc. just cus you’re working on cloud related features
Someone else should chime in with more knowledge on that
as well as accelerator, god tier character. ty man 🙂
my plan is to jump into companies like Google(Google Cloud would be amazing)/Amazon/Tesla
ty so much guys, really appreciate it!✨
121 problems
79 problems total, off and on, trying to get back into it 😀
380ish
like 25
most leetcode problems i do is through oa’s haven’t practiced much lately, grinded a lot in the past tho
interning rn

if i'm not gonna get an oa in the first place then why leetcode? 🤔
Never made it this far in interview process and haven’t been asked any LC
All those hash maps for nothing

arround 40, try to practice the 14 leetcode patterns, it'll save you a lot of time and stress 🙂
Do you have a list in particular you are using?
So when we get the OA u can pass it

https://neetcode.io/practice do the blind 75, i made 40/75
A better way to prepare for coding interviews.
IMO a good tip if you are starting in lc watch at others solutions, this guy make yt videos about his solutions, start by doing your approach and meassure your times
create an excel sheet and how much you time took you to solve it, youll get better in no time!!
about the 14 patterns there are severals of them like turtoise and hare, dfs, max subarray, etc
lmao yeah i went to safeway a couple days ago and the person in front me used self checkout and just walked out without paying
i was on Google SPS Program and made 1yr as FT SWE @ Wikimedia, but I think what really interested the recruiter was that I made a simple compiler in C and made some projects in C/C++ using threads on Linux, actually they made some points on this
my advice is that if your role has to be with unix or C put every single project you have
on my other experience I just had things like: backend with Javascript
so it matter that you've built some projects on your own like school or own projects or even internships, but my advice would be put some 1-week projects with the technologies required for the role
if you are looking for web positions theres a cool web that can help you to create small projects: https://devchallenges.io/
Does anyone have GHC grp link(discord)
u self taught
?
no, just graduated from CS, why u ask?
damn
Does anyone have resume worded premium subscription
Just wanted to check and correct my mistakes in resume
does anyone have interviews lined up? If so, with which companies?
i'm in the process with a local gov company
Theres like 1500 apps in a day. Lets say 500 actually applied, there could be 100 more applying directly from company website. Begging recruiter in the dm is the only way
no you gotta take it one step further
whats ur easy/med/hard breakdown?
nah dont beg man
dont lose your last bit of dignity begging to a recruiter
just keep applyinhg
realistically these trading companies are gonna take like 30 NGs
💀
prob some MIT/stanford grad, research, 6 internships, inventeded and sold a startup for cash
4.1/4.0 gpa
oh shit
gl fam you got this

why tho
just ddo the interview for the shits
paid hotels n shit tho no
ah true
It'll be alright, all it takes is time. None of us would even remember these trying times in a few years inshallah 
Anyone know what the Google application/interview process is like for sp24
I'm hoping to get one through a referral. Otherwise 0 

who is?
30 on a good day
Their OAs are decent practice tho
Friends 2nd round interview in 90 minutes, pragye that I get isAnagram and 2sum 
good luck
personally im really frustrated that the technology market seems to make hiring basis determinations off of whether or not someone can remember a random classic problem or aglo that, without the pressure of an interview, could typically be implemented in less than an hour by just reusing the same code that was written 5000 times previously
"so this job will make you do really interesting code and has nothing to do with what im about to ask you, please show me bogosort or else no job"
like idk if the industry is just trying extra hard to make selection a pain in the ass in order to make themselves seem more exclusive and there as an achievement
but seriously what a waste of money and time
They just need filters since there is so much supply; only reason why we have these dsa brain teasers
It would all go to top schools we would have even less of a chance tbh
well im complaining because i feel like there's no chance NOW and the process is so convoluted and time consumed that it's just depressing to be stuck in it

Like Tom Cruise once said "Be the change you want to see in this world"
We need to fight against this system
yeah well if I owned a company i'd never allow anyone to spend millions on a service or bunch of interviews that just tests applicants about stupid irrelevant algos
and yes I realize the algos are important in real code, i say irrelevant in the context of "you're never going to have to write that sort algo from scratch with a time limit and your boss watching"
like at least make it a more unique challenge
i hate to reference LC but theres interesting shit there that isnt simplesort or 2sum
I mean if you choose the right questions algos can help you judge a persons skill. Although it shouldn't be the only criteria to hire a candidate
the problem is, for many places it is the only thing, or it is a non-negotiable
Personally, when I interviewed I choose questions which had atleast 2-3 different solutions which can be worked upon collaboratively taking about trade offs and other things!
mhm
b/c otherwise the candidate and interviewer are just gambling
like what if they just dont know that one thing
it's almost as if programming is always done with an open web browser and involves continuous learning
has anyone gotten an OA for JPMC full time roles yet?(February start specifically) i keep seeing all these interns getting them, seems like they do intern stuff first
Yeah lemme just go obtain generational wealth likely originally obtained through scheming and shady business practices.
lol
i applied to 2024 SOFTWARE ENGINEER PROGRAM – FULL-TIME OPPORTUNITY on the 7th and received my auto rejection this morning
👍🏻
well i never got an OA and the rejection was a boilerplate message so it felt like an auto reject
EE Majors...Meta is hiring EE NGs: https://www.metacareers.com/jobs/296600709717310/
damn sorry to hear that. Would be nice to get these letters within a week as opposed to what seems like a full month later
its ok it's better than the last place i interviewed in person at
rejected without even an email
found out by checking their application portal
I'm fr considering just accepting this offer for 75k even though the work seems shit
honestly hiring culture has just become fucking toxic
i hate to use that overused phrase
but it really is
applicants are treated like machine parts
and we dont even get a email
Yeah it's comically insane
I feel like I did everything right and still got fucked over lol. Had a great offer lined up but because Willow Tree sucks that shit evaporates 6 weeks before my start date
Literally passed on two offers
if your current offer is at all SWE related
or industry related
just take it for stabliity
long as it is relavent and resume building
else NO
This is kind of why I'm really unsure on it
It is a swe role but it's all Machinery related lol
paypal ng
is it programming factory machines
It's programming vehicle testing machines
And other shit
is it PROPRIETARY languages?
No it's cpp
pay is shit but go for it
It's heavy travel so I'm just like so non plussed on it
Yeah I might do it
Yeah it's 30% travel
STEPPING STONE
better than what i turned down
i rejected a 60K job at my uni as I graduated
for zoom support
I'm in the process of interviewing at another company that seems WAY better so I'm like fuckk
tell them you have a OFFER DEADLINE
It seems like it's going well but you never know
Yeah I will if I don't hear from them today about the final interviews
Accepted an offer for 58k at middle of nowhere
id take way lower salary for no travel, legit hate travel.
if they are paying for my travel idc
They agreed to let me do remote for first few months. So i’m grateful for that
thats sick
i mean obv they are paying but the trips are anywhere from 1-4 weeks
Lol yea some
yea
not sure how much
Is it bad to think i can do better and continue applying even after this? How short time is too short to quit later?
yes
Im gonna try and drag this out as long as possible, I should hear back from this other company today
you can always keep applying
cry
unless you live in hcol area thats not even bad
you could live on that for a while, get like a year at least and bail
unless you got like kids or smth
my areas COL makes 100K a base livable salary
it would be bad if u stopped applying lmao
Its in middle west, rent is like 700-800 for 1 studio. I think its LCOL? I haven’t travelled much in usa
i hate the state of the economy
Another thing about this place that sucks is i have to move so I cant really just keep applying
lmfao studios where im at are 2-3K EASY
i would rather not move a billion times
take the offer bro and just relax for a little while tbh
job hunt sucks rn, just get some experience and start applying when you're closer to a year at that place
thats my plan anyway if I get this offer
Only thing thats bugging me is i have very limited desire to move there. I don’t mind the pay but i will try to ask for fully remote in 2 months and see what they say. Till then i will relax for a bit and keep applying and doing leetcodr
oh damn I didnt consider relocation
yea that changes things
otherwise cant afford
omg haha i got a friend that works there ima go get a referral lmao
you gotta get the referral before applying according to my friend
yeah but for some companies it can get me to the interview
Guys i have a legit wuestion
Im in a QA Engineer position right now
When would you look at other jobs lol
I just started monday but fuck
What do you not like about your current job?
Bro it's QA not swe
I mean i get to develop too but im worried about pigeonholing into QA and that companies wont consider me for SWE roles
Just say youre Software Engineer in test
I think everyone will tell you to keep applying and not quit this job before you bag another one. I’m looking for new job before i have even started mine. I start on monday haha
And it oays $70k so it's not bad
I mean same as me cause i knew this was a job i didnt want to be at long, it just makes decent money and that's it
But im trying to hop to an SWE role asap
Just keep applying, and goodluck
Like the good thing is i still get experience in java and MSSQL
LIKE im doing developer stuff too but it's not my job title
You're overthinking it just your a SDET
My buddy did that and transitoned into a SWE role pretty easily
If you're learning and doing stuff on the side you'll have no problem
I think it varies by company
Yeah im basically doing manual testing, no writing code
Im doing dev stuff too on the side, im kind of double tapped but my official role is qa engineer
well it’s 2:38PM on wednesday
Like im working still as a dev but it's not my official role lol
the day I was told would be when they decide who moves to second round
Exciting
not looking good
Oh no
I hate this job market. Can’t get anything, not even OAs
wagmi 
Are u guys using linkedin to apply or how are u applying
Guys, Paypal posted a new grad job listing 2 hours ago. For those who have graduated within last 12 months and those graduating by spring 2024. so all us 2023 grads are covered
Love u
december 2022 counts, right?


LinkedIn and Indeed. I am also emailing people from previous internships. My parents gave me their friends' emails (those who work in the tech industry) and I am emailing them my resume too.
yes

Doesn’t hurt to try
It should, but why would you wanna leave Conduent
from the paypal job posting
Hope I don’t get resume rejected from PayPal
yoooo i got an oa
yep. also, there are multiple paypal new grad listings for different locations. so don't just apply to one
nah lol that would be hella fast haha
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oh yea i noticed that too
what company issit?
How do companies even resume reject new grad roles? What is there even to reject?? All they have to look at is if you graduated with a comp degree
guys second round went well, I should get onsite unless they were looking for next Albert Einstein 
internship exp, school name, etc
Thats where tech screenings come in
I think if they reject before screening, it will be because of random selection
Major might also be a reason for resume reject. My major is not computer science, but Computational Media (same department as CS), so that might be putting me at a disadvantage even if I have relevant skills and experience. My major is somewhat "related to CS" which meets the requirements of many job postings
Fair though a lot of bigger companies like paypal don't really put that in their requirements. So wouldn't make sense for them to reject you solely off that as they could have just mentioned this and get a lot less applicants who don't fit this to not apply
wtff
well id assume just like the technical inteview the decisions are based off of the other candidates
if you get a lot of candidates with internship exp and good schools it bumps up the competition
so it depends
Everyone ex faang 
Yeah but the difference is that technical interviews give you a lot more data on who to hire(and are waay more important in getting the job) than intern exp and school clout, especially for a new grad role. I have heard so many people complain that they went to a top school and have faang type internship exp and still have been looking for a job for over a year
Plus we are not even mentioning the fact that a lot of companies don't even consider internships at all as some think they are not real exp.
total BS
once had an HR tell me experience doesnt count unless its paid
for volunteer work i had
unrelated field
Also not even mentioning the fact that recruiters barely screen resumes. What's the statistic, like most recruiters only spend an average of 5 seconds looking at your resume before they accept you to even begin the hiring process? And that's an average for every type of exp, not just entry
imagine thinking new grad role means you just need to be a new grad
definitely not me before the doom arc
internships and experience are usually best indicators of who will pass those technical/behavioral/cultural tests
I mean if that's the case, then what's the point for any new grad with no intern exp to ever apply for a new grad role? How do all these new grads with no intern exp even keep getting accepted for new grad/entry roles, even after the layoffs??
badtakeimo
saying experience doesnt count or is pointless just because it didnt come from a "big name" company...
tbh no for any NG role paying 100k+ in this economy
you just get instantly filtered
if I was intelligent id care more about what they did
but that discounts what the person actually did
Choose the one from lehman ofc 
clearly you gotta admit the way that this is being explained is a bad way of doings things
actually caring about their capabilties, accomplishments, and what they did at their previous employment
Lmfao
WELCOME TO THE FAMILY

ikr
Man this job market is literally Tinder
We got a new one boys
Jokes aside bro that’s 100% true and it’s frustrating af and that’s why lots of ppl doom
I have no intern exp and it really feels pointless applying sometimes
I switched to grindr and got some matches 
literally doesnt even exist in my state
i think unpaid intern is outlawed in CA now
well not everyone has the luxury of being able to work for free
no offence
so it was part time
ok
well i didnt know that
anyway
something
something
something
economy bad
are you terry davis
cloud cert courses are so boring
Don't let that stop you bro, there are still new grads with no exp getting swe jobs. You only need one job to say yes to change your life
POPULATION is not declining
Thanks bro
just saying I agree with you the situation is fucked
That's because a lot of the positions are going overseas haha
yeah why hire NG in US for 100K when you can hire one in India for 25K
Outside of hours none of those are valid complaints
being able to literally talk to them during the day
i guess it depends on experience
ive seen contracters do piss poor jobs
The quality of candidates from top colleges in India is quite good
So FAANG and Quants can hire from those
i guess our contracters just sucked XD
Indian English speakers communicate very well though. And they grind hard af on Leetcode and school
I mean if you're contracting from witch yeah they suck
they are amazing programmers ill give them that
WITCH is a body shop so they take anyone who can breathe
WITCH rejected me
so like modern USA GOV hiring
🪢
Not exactly but kind of, they mass hire in India at piss poor wages
about to start my racism arc 
do we thinkn thats exploitation
No
It's just capitalism bruh
A lot of tech companies pay really good wages... for India
Like FAANG or Quants pay upto 30-50K USD which is basically like making 200k
Either way if the situation gets worse, crime will happen. Cyberpunk Night City is otw.
in CA, yes
NYC and WA too
yeah
id say detroit but they dont count since they lost all their density to population flight
CHICAGO
How's the job search going people? Any improvement?
Someone just put me down already 
Must be a really risky investment for them. If they get screwed(i.e scammed or massive data leaks), companies won't really have anybody to fall through
same
usually they work alongside a NA or EU team
I'm living with parents, flirting with LinkedIn HR, leetcoding, and making projects until I work at night grocery stocking since May
Even EU is way cheaper than US
Eu salaries are like 50-80K for swe
I'm international. I can't do a lot of those! 
But that is going to be a lot harder than dealing with someone in u.s. Imagine a major corporation in a wealthy western country is trying to sue people at a much different, underdeveloped country. Not a good situation to be in
international corporate lawyers make a lot of fucking money
let them deal with it
they deserve the pain for picking that field
Haha fair, idk how international law suits work so it may be a lot different than I am imagining
rope approaching
low key, I wish I stayed in India 
are u in US
yes
sponsor?
Yeah I feel you. Got another auto rejection for a new grad role that only 40 ppl applied before closing.
what do you mean?
are u sponsored on visa
I think the worst part is that all my friends got jobs so easily last year
Now I can't find shit this year
Sucks having to apply for a potential job to go through a months long waiting and interview game just to get rejected and do it all over again
yeah....
esp when u get to 2 or 3 rounds
smh
Dying of jealousy here as my friend drives a $50K car while having not even completed blind75
no, I'm looking for a job. Finished MS in May. Came here right after my bachelors, so I have no exp.
Most people are struggling. Your friend is an outlier
;-;
Same with me. It hurts a lot because I'm approaching 950 on LC
That might have actually been a steal, the car market has been really shit for a while now
all of my friends who graduated last year make at least 100k in their jobs
same
i had a fucking offer secured and it evaporated
lmao my roommates with with 0 and same experience as me earn 150k+ rn because they got RO 
feels bad
I do contests sometimes on LC.
Are lc contests even worth it? Do they even make you better at leetcode versus just practicing leetcode by yourself
LC contests are weird
I usually solve 3/4, did 4/4 a couple of times.
LC contests feel a lot different from blind75
tbh, I never did blind75
LC contests as of late feel like they have turned into competitive programming - lite instead of data structures + algos
good
Wouldn't call it good
it's my opinion
fair
Do the questions on lc contests ever even accurately represent the type of questions that you would get at an interview tho? I have heard a lot of them make you do weird algorithms that you learned back in calc
Where do you live?
New York
Then thats why they are all making at least 100k haha
Bruh
which city is more disgusting?
No shit that's why they are making 100k at least
I mean most of them are making more like 130k
is NYC top?
Not all of them live in NYC
nyc 130k is min wage
Some work in NJ, another Boston, another Bay and others remote
id rather make 60k and live in a town of 5000
lolwut
average income in nyc is 65k or something
average rent in nyc is like 2500. You need to make at least 100k just to be comfortable
just don't live in NYC?
thats literally my point
live in NJ and take a 20 min train
rent not fent
neither, it's partly sarcastic nested in the reality of their horrendous COL
obv 130k is nice and comf living but in the context of NYC / LA / SF, it is not nearly as much as people think it is
I make abt that much and it's def good living lol
nice
Like my savings aren't that much
and the worst part is COL just keeps rising
mhm
Yeah @rich prairie what r u even sayin
??
Its like 60k
So making 130k is very livable
Also when we refer NYC. I'm thinking that the job is in Manhattan. And that you have to live relatively close there. Cause if you live in other boroughs the commute time will be too long
130k is 7k in hand per month. 2.5k rent worst case, there's still 4.5k to spend. It's a LOT
again, i am aware, as I just said, I just acknowledged that, you're taking what I say too literally
it's mostly a statement about the outragous cost of living
Ok
christ
Are u Canadian?
Oh
I thot u wer
Cuz of the "eh"
Honestly it's a lot of luck as well

They were hiring new grads
Recruiting in 2022 helped
imma rope if i dont get this shitty ass job
is it disasterous to accept an offer i realllyy dont want and ghost them in a week if i get this other one i REALLY do want
ill surely get black listed
by the first guys
Is the bad compamy f500? 👀
Yeah, if u have offer on company u want, lock it in before reneging
Series A startup wants to give me 250k lolll
how do you find start ups to apply to guys
Headhunter reached out
Check Ycombinator
yeh the main thing is that the gross company is giving me less than a week to decide
It’s a good backup if nothing else works out
i got the letter saturday and it must be signed tomorrow
so Im probably gonna sign, finish this final interview and if it works reneg? idk dud
the amount of travel at this place is gonna make me rip my dick off if i actually stay lol
Yeah, u cant do any meaningful with just 1 week into a job anyways
I'd have to move so I'm kinda just undecided asf what to do. I'll figure it out
I gotta get this drug test pushed back maximally far or else that's not happenin
The fact that it's an alcohol test too hahaha
No improvement at all
For me
Evidently no but it's heavy Machinery related so that is why
I too am in round 2 but the anxiety just multiplies
I actually want dis one a lot it sounds kinda fun
But you got this
I really hope so lol
I swear this would be so sick cuz I've only been searching for a month
It's kinda funny because it seems like they are doing the reverse of a normal interview process. My first interview was a technical interview, and the second is more of a company fit interview. I have to give a presentation on why I'm a good fit for the job lol
Since I only got notified that my job was done for a month go.
Haha that's kinda cool I guess?
How many more rounds friend 
Yeah fr. I think I'll make it to the final on this job but nothing is certain
no idea lol but i hope this is the final round
Nothing seems off and I havent fucked anything up I think
They're hiring 6 people for the position, and the first round interviewed 16 people...
Yeah I think the place I'm at is hiring 15 people for various similar positions so fingers fucking crossed for both of us
The funny thing is that this place is literally by my house lmao
yeah not bad at all!
Dude I just feel like the first 2 interviews were so light I'm like wtf is taking them multiple days to hit me up about next steps
I'm just being impatient
And I did well on their little oa thing so
W congrats
would anybody mind helping me with a leetcode question? my code seems to be perfectly executing in VScode and Replit, but the challenge keeps throwing errors???
(power of two)
(this is also my very first leetcode problem so bear with me here)







