#2023_grads
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at this rate i should
August 2022 
which companies are you guys currently getting recruiter calls from?
all of them

selection bias
So you going for masters? I might go too
doubt it
What year are you Liv
Liv killing it
also i got my offers like 1-2 weeks ago
how long was i searching for a job you mean?
2 weeks
Jesus
i interview well, and shockingly im good at writing resumes
Really hate the companies asking questions like these :" Tell us about a problem you've solved and what made it interesting to you. " If you want to know just take an interview already
nope, but i have given a lot of feedback in #1019675142248468601
doesn't matter imo
i have 15 bullet points of my key advice in some recent threads #1019675142248468601
Databricks is wack for not letting 2023 grads apply
if you have a mappable keyboard I managed to reduce my application time by assigning macros to keys that type out my email/password/phone number
Unless it’s December 2023 graduation date
So basically 2024 
I feel like it’s easy to lie about tho
Graduation dates always move for some reason
45 more days of opt unemployment left, wonder if I should start looking for volunteer work. Someone pls guide me to a real place I can work for free 
yeah I use that but for the applications which ask personal questions like the one I posted is irritating.
can you work at unpaid internships?
Yes
Yes I think, but I don't have contacts at my uni
that might be a good start
That’s what I’m doing rn
Wr did you find one
It was a friend of a friend kind of thing
handshake, linkedin. i have seen many
I would reach out to professors tbh
If your close with any
They can send out emails to alumni and what not
Yeah
2024 only bastards
I can try emailing a few, wasn't too close but who knows they might agree to help
Just right up a classy sob story
What search terms, I couldn't find much for volunteer work last I searched
Like difficult market conditions, unemployment, I understand you’re a very busy man, but your assistance would mean a lot kind of thing
I’m hella hurt about databricks
I have a connect from a tech conference that I could leverage
Just apply anyway 
huh? ima 2023 grad who had a recruiter get back to me
dec 2022
The new posting???
nah one 4 days ago
oh well that makes more sense
2023
did yall hear about the stanford president
crazy shit
I still think Stanford is too good school for it to effect them tho
what?
Last week The PRESIDENT of Stanford University was exposed for data FRAUD. The evidence is shocking, and it is depressing to see how Marc Tessier-Lavigne is not being appropriately reprimanded for his malpractice.
This looks really bad for Stanford, but also it looks terrible for academia in general. He isn't the only example of data fraud in ...
this was the yt vid I saw on it
How do you find university projects to participate in that involve an actual audience of users? Is everything limited to clubs or can I just waltz in a business school and ask to join a project?
What do you mean by actual audience? Like a user base?
You could always join those car racing competitions cus meche kids need programmers a lot for those projects
is it worth to apply to positions that have a later start date than your graduation date. I am considering just applying or even lying about my grad date but I don't even know if it is even worth it to do neither
you're gonna make it bro, idk when or how but you will
Like an active user base that one can reference
Can't get into personal projects at this point because I have 3 internships. I need to demonstrate an active work schedule with a development team and "stakeholders" that are both dependant on my contributions

bought webcam for teams interview
on monday
If I don’t get this job I’m gonna have to return it
huh ima 2023 grad who had a recruiter
Did anyone get the sentry oa
I got rejected 😞
Just wanted to see the persons resume
Like wtf are they looking for
companies posting new grad are asking : December 2023 to Jan 2024. What are you doing in this case? I graduted May 2023. Where would my jobless ass go?
Databricks, Optiver, and dont know how many to come, are you all still applying?
@vast mica
Imo just put 2023 as ur grad date on resume
I see, you are a man of culture and great taste
but, what to put if they explicitly ask the mont
month
Will get a solution to this...
I’m may grad

Not every job requires dec 23 or later grad date
Only seen a few
I mean it’s literally only been 2 months since may
same problem
So after 1 month it’s just over you can’t get a job anymore
Apply to defense jobs if you're a US citizen....otherwise idk lol
That's what I'm doing lol. Finally got an interview 4 MONTHS after applying to one of these defense companies
I applied in March lol
there's usajobs.gov
or just look up "largest defense companies and contractors in the USA"
I found the Space Dynamics Lab in my state and applied
turns out they need a ton of people because they told me they're hiring 6 people for the position I applied to. it originally said they were hiring one person for that position lol
I guess this is just one company but still
If a small company is hiring this many people, i wonder what the big defense companies are up to
I'm pretty sure defense companies get their funding years in advance, so they probably won't be feeling the effects of rising interest rates like big tech has
They get their contracts and money from the government anyway too
I bet they get some good deals
Only downside is they don't pay mega big bucks like big tech, but a SWE defense job certainly pays more than McDonalds, and you get pretty good job security
Once you get experience and have a valid security clearance, I bet it's easy to find another defense job if you want
yes
If Veeva calls to resume reject me, I'm gonna tell them "I was expecting this. Could I recommend @pulsar mural for this role?"

Wait wtf so if I graduated in June…and I still don’t have a job…I’m basically fucked?
no
gonna be real, ppl here are big time doomers. and it's full on selection bias. pretty much every CV i have reviewed has made a ridiculous amount of basic mistakes. so i would not take the sentiment in this server as gospel
i get it's a bad market, but not that bad if you are actually doing good shit
good CV is a start
Do u mind if I dm you
@static birch just curious, but why did you join this server if you're already employed?
^
i'm about to leave tho
i stuck around a bit after i saw how low the bar was for resumes
did i stutter?
@gentle peak
Thanks for all the contributions 🙏
@static birch showthese unemployed mfs whose boss
My company provides it, so kinda weird I guess
Not desks
But monitors, keyboards, etc
this is true. i have been working on some bullet points but i might update them a little again
okay but it's just facts that people on here are struggling more to get a job for reasons that are within their control
@static birch dm me once you make the tips
i just graduated but im starting swe in sept

my resume is ok 
i just read them and i think to myself "what is wrong with this?". legit idk it just makes sense to me
no, i'm saying that yes it's a bad market so everyone is going to struggle. but people here (and elsewhere, i only have a sample for here) are not maximising their potential and so they are struggling more

so how do i get good at doing this
gunna walk to google booth next month and make them give me a job
cos its like saying "just get an interview"

i mean... sure if "just get an interview" is 15 bullet points on how to make it easier to get an interview? lmao
A good way at doing this is by reviewing what feedback has been left for others in #1019675142248468601
r u international though
i legit dont know, it just makes sense to me. you can read my bullet points in some recent threads on #1019675142248468601 for a start. i'm gonna update them soon tho and then dip
im not 
how bout raytheon ?
same sht
also competitive
all of the private defense, lockheed, raytheon, boeing, etc
are competitive
cause they actually pay well
compared to other sht
just get into boeing thru one of their auxillary companies
boi i already roasted yours
pls roast 
off the top of my head, tapestry solutions. i got an offer for their autonomous avionics swe internship and all the internals were boeing affiliated. there are many more though, boeing is a giant company
I think ppl on here would tent to have more polished resumes and leetcode/sys design prep than average
i don't think you get what i'm saying. it is a fact that the sample i have from this server is overall not good. a better CV is going to improve your chance of getting your job. it's really that simple. remove the comparison if you like
i was responding to your message asking me to stay, as to say i already helped you. not commenting on how good it is
yeah i have done like 3 leetcode problems maybe
are u at big tech
i mean my interview was a medium i think

so ur like probably cracked out of ur mind
do people know i'm not in the US btw? i also don't have any internships
i just have cracked projects/cv and i interview well
yeah and i'm helping them do so
doesn't rly matter where i am 90% of the time
Fr I'm almost at 300
it's not good here but i guess it's worse there idk
what country
uk
oh
im pretty sure its worse in the uk
i don't know, maybe it is
it is a v good job tho so i guess that wasn't easy
grats
i have no clue i'm not a recruiter. i stopped after 2 interviews and 2 offers lol
skill issue
UK is socialist and hands out jobs like candy
should i come back later? feels like you need a minute to diminish my achievements
Can you check mine
xd

ded is coping
it's all in good fun
I believe getting a job is a great achievement. 👍

Fax
how many apps
2
If 2 I'm moving to uk tomorrow
I haven't posted mine here maybe I should
if only someone here was really good at interviewing and wanted to share
yes
didn’t work out good
maybe 30? i have applied to more since
Moving to uk rn
you have to drive a car tho 
@rain patio post your cv in #1019675142248468601 don't dm me pls
@static birch you're a better person than i ever hope to be
if u have experience
entry lvl is super satured everywhere
thought there was 190k new grads this year
no idea i would also never move to the us
i will prob apply to some more cracked companies when i move to the NL
same thing
i wanna see the number for number of entry lvl jobs though
linkedin has like 100k, and majority are seniors
190k CS grads
bruh we have like 160k in the UK and our population is 1/5
is there any good comprehensive list for SWE jobs that are opening up rn? i know indeed/glassdoor etc but something like that github page was really useful
but u also gotta take into account
unless these stats are lying to me tf
of other degrees
although most of the jobs on that github page are outdated now
theres a sht ton of bootcampers+ career switchers
ReaVNaiL/New-Grad-2024 is one that comes to mind

bless
ty

wut
that doesnt sound right
170k cs grads includes the masters
theres not that many people who do masters
phds arent applying to regular jobs

a lotta people do masters ngl
those of you that have had interviews and didn't get an offer, what happened?
it seems like most ppl complain about not even getting interviews
no i mean like
what happened in the interview
market completely froze
in january
i forgot how many layoffs
did we have early this yr
200kish people got laid off this year
with the LC thing (in the us) is it actually true that they care if you solve it? all i've heard is they care about how you go about it
if someone else
can solve it
and u can't, then they'll go with the other guy
if noone can solve it, then sure
yeah okay i get that people think that. however, as a manager you want someone that you can work with right? when i solved mine in the interview i did it like we were collaborating on a project
@rain patio @static birch plz review #1137168444991733831 message
as in i took 'charge' of the situation or whatever. they were just letting me do whatever
like they'll send out an OA, and u get a score on hackerrank,etc
theres usually multiple technical interviews
in good companies, there will be someone who can solve it optimally
Some interviewers are very stingy about solving it the right way, others can be lax if lucky
and what makes it worse is that a lotta people cheat
in that the questions are leaked
and people solve it beforehand
also u gotta realize the amount of competition, a lot of people from T4 are cracked
tbh a lotta people from t4 aren't interested in the companies you are applying to
obviously it's impossible to make a sweeping statement, but i feel like there might be a bit of a disconnect between the hiring teams and applicants
like it makes sense to blame it on 'not solving it optimally', but realistically any good employer is going to hire people that can actually work through the problem in a reasonable and collaborative way, taking hints along the way and maintaining a level head
now
tell that to them when they get 1k apps a day
any good employer is an important point

i'm talking about interviews
if its an OA, its usually automated
can you read what i said?
but companies are most likely interviewing 20+ people
i am not talking about OAs
Must be cracked at all times
i'm not really talking about 'getting along' with them. i'm talking about having a brain that can work through a problem in a collaborative way. it's a different kinda cracked but cracked nevertheless
Its not like only 1 person will be collaborative, there will be people who will be that and solve it optimally
okay but what if u had one applicant
who solved everything optionally + answered everything
theres always going to be someone like that
leetcode style tasks are usually considered by people in industry to be basic enough for a new grad to complete by themselves without taking away time from a senior engineer
not enough information to base it on. if they just tell me the solution without going through their brain process then the assumption is gonna be a) they cheated or b) they are gonna be shit to work with and train
theres also usually
5-7 interviews
if ur talking about "getting along" with them
thats the behavioral part
I mean most people will walk them through the thought process, you’d have to be completely inexperienced to not do so or you just don’t know how to solve it
the bar is just higher
says who?
i already answered this

wtf
Guys can someone else also review my resume #1137168444991733831 message
^
if i can't trust y'all to write decent resumes then why should i trust you to explain your LC thought processes in a competent way? genuinely no shade just being honest
decent resume != doing leetcode
You only had 2 onsites for UK companies let's settle down
indeed but there's gonna be a correlation and most likely a root causation

there isnt any correlation
tons of people go watch utube videos on
just grind leetcode
blind 75,etc
or they cheat
yeah
@ me when you have even the slightest sliver of evidence to back up this implication that this is a lesser achievement
200k or bust
ngl uk is harder than us

@static birch just curious where do you work?
people only tag you bc you're the only person willing to review resumes
f500
i'm sorry but i can easily get like 10 people to dismiss this as the bs it is
majority of people in this discord are applying to big tech, quants, unicorns, etc
no i mean some1 just sent me a new server
yikes
better than hopiumland
they deleted it because i said yikes
Has anyone here gotten a job without any internships
Hey guys would yall say it is a good idea to put the lowest salary range for comp expectations on a job application
put a negative number 
put the glassdoor number
I am hella desparate and I saw a new grad post for a job I am really interested in. So am wondering if putting market rate would lower my chances of getting an interview versus putting the lowest range
if its a big company, they almost always have a expected budget to hire someone
literally just use the glassdoor number
i doubt it's that deep. put a reasonable number and you'll be fine. but as mentioned it can be helpful to not give a figure if that's an option
I usually say $0 or competitive salary
Bruh at this rate I just need the experience
not saying this is a good idea, but just out of curiosity, have people considered freelance web dev or something to ride this out?
Looksmaxxing will get you a job
imagine not even posture maxxing in 2023
tf 145k lmao
apply for defense jobs!
feels weird to announce this as if i'm important, but yo sorry im gonna leave this server now. gl to everyone ❤️
Y’all mfs made her do resume reviews as a part time job 😭
She was the goat 😭
@rain patio stop DMing me, post your resume in #1019675142248468601
God dammit guys. I needed her to review my resume
slide into those dms 🤣
Her? There are women in STEM?
i know this is a joke but we gotta stop this it's corny and lame
sorry batman
damn even the community job board wants nothing but senior devs
I honestly wish I could send a fake cheating report on myself to invalidate my 2022 bachelors degree. I'm more than willing to repeat 4 years again if it meant I'd have a mineute chance of employment redemption
I have a feeling that my alma mater would not bode kindly to my attempt in artificially postponing my masters completion in the name of employment
Would they rly care that much? They get to charge you with more money 
i don't get why a job gap is that bad. I'm sure employers know the economy is kinda trash and won't hold it against you
"Oh you couldn't find a job during one of the toughest economic times in 20 years? You're disqualified from all future employment! Abandon your dreams of being a SWE!!!!"
i don't see it
so long brother we barely knew ye
i had an interview with a manager that pointed out my 3 month gap when i graduated dec 2022, i just explained i am just currently applying for a jobs and they seemed so unaware the market is sucky
bruh that manager is out of touch wtf
Has anyone done the optiver OA first question? I couldn't solve it and am still having trouble coming up with a solution that works for all my test cases. It works for the given test cases, but some edge cases I came up with don't work and I'm wondering if I'm misunderstanding the question. Pretty sure I failed the OA, just want to learn from it now. Any help would be appreciated!
got the stink eye from one of my interviewers when I mentioned my most recent internship and beyond.
Hey guys, I am a SWE new grad with about one year of experience at companies including Facebook and IMC Trading. I’m looking for a fully remote (across the globe) new grad position, any suggestions?
Hello I suggest conduent friend 
Yahkunazon 
I first week of august was better than last 3 months lol
Anyone interview with Valkyrie Trading? I got something coming up soon. Wondering what the interview for the trader position is like.
i did an oa with them, it's annoying 6 hours long
annoying c++ problem
(for swe tho)
Mine is 90 minutes
why do u need valkyrie tho
u got yahkuna trading
job hopping = higher tc
2nd only to Yakuña river trading
- yahkuna is a cruel boss
if I make a losing trade he threatens to feed me to his manuls
I heard @pulsar mural only gives 1% raises
you mean his pallas's cat?
He has many of them
i heard @pulsar mural been called the "dunce of wall street"
a title unhonourably bestowed
hannah is his highest paid employee
@pine topaz can verify
neptosim at its finest, theyre having troube witht he relationship though, so someone is gonna take her place soon
i heard hannah's "services" are in high demand
the microserves she creates are not top notch, I dont get the appeal. She cant even usse a lod balancer and scale with k8s to our CDNs properly
you fuci=king stupid cat @pulsar mural
Lmao why dont he let me take his spot. I would love to work at fang doing little to no work
frfr
Guys need a suggestio for a role of Software Engineer at Canonical. My primary languages are C++ & Java, and I have exposure & internship in Python (Basic stuffs).
The role is in Python and after reading Glassdoor reviews, I am in a doubt. I see only 1 offer in recent 5 pages of interview. Aditionally, the process is lengthy as hell. read here:
https://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Canonical-Software-Engineer-Interview-Questions-EI_IE230560.0,9_KO10,27.htm?sort.sortType=RD&sort.ascending=false&filter.jobTitleFTS=Software+Engineer
Please tel me if I should invest in the process or not, based on the curent job market. I am receiving least no. of calls
110 Canonical Software Engineer interview questions and 99 interview reviews. Free interview details posted anonymously by Canonical interview candidates.
They aren't kidding, someone posted a screenshot of their long questionnaire 
shitty ass process, don't invest your energy there
yeah they arent kidding
ceo thinks hes running apple
they have insulting tests
after the resume screen you have to do an aptitude test
forget canonical
im sad i still use ubuntu as a work machine but im tryina switch over
I applied there a couple days ago, they were asking me about how I did in high school lol
on the application
if you really must apply there, chatgpt all your answers
not worth genuinely giving an essay answer
they dont even read it
plus idk if you guys know this but they dont give you a machine to work on, you do all your work ON YOUR OWN MACHINE
fuck, I was hoping Canonical would send me a Macbook
fr canonical is a fraud, they told me to send in measurements and a selfie tf
when this happens we are truly expired

wangmi

all I can do is pray rn

I pray god pls dear jesus that we all may please get gainfully employed in the career we need jesus Allah YWH god papa bless amen

Pray for my interviews next week, I promise I'll refer all of you if I get in!
may you get the job :))
Myself
Oh you mean where am I interviewing?
Spotify, and Morg Stan
This is my last chance, I'm so fucked if I don't get anything soon
Thank you all.. This channel won't die
you interviewing for yourself too?
Did any one gave Mckinsey OA? how was it ?
How is the Mckinsey Data Engineering OA?
What kind of questions are they asking?
hey guys, sorry if this isnt the right place to ask
i'm a may 23 grad and i completely missed the ng 23 cycle
do new grad 2024 jobs still take may 23 grads?
some do some don't, usually it will specifcy a grad date like "graduating around dec 2023 - may 2024"
if you dont fall within the grad date, you'll probablt get auto rejected
otherwise if it doesn't specify a grad date, apply apply apply!!!
just apply and hope for the best imo
damn
alright cuz ive been coping
lowkey ive even been applying for internships and thinking of doing more school
because of how bad i fumbled 23 NG seasoin
gotta get ready for 24 ng :(
all good bro there's tons of people in the same situation you're not alone and there's things out of your control like this shitty market
i dont have any specific advice on doing grad school, but keep applying and keep your head you can definitely still land a job
GL!!! When did you apply and did a recruiter approach you/referral? And was there an OA or phone then direct technicals?
Stupid question, but is entrepreneurship connected to cloud computing?
I feel like one would plan around making/managing containers or something in tandem with project goals, no?
I'll have to write up a forum explaining how an entrepreneurship course ties in with my educational goals of learning cloud computing, so this is the only "connection" I can come up with
i dont see how entreprenuership is directly connected to cloud, but its like entreprenuership connecting with almost every other field from software,AI to biotech. But to connect the dots with cloud, one can offer a SAAS business model which is made possible with cloud services. One can abstract away the provisioning of complex infrastructure on the cloud from their customers, and offer some software as a service. For example, I could be wrong on this, but if you think of a platform like databricks where you gotta provision multiple clusters to run a data pipeline job, a data engineer or software engineer don't really want to be going on AWS to provision all the EC2's and network settings to create a cluster. That's where Databricks come in, and abstract away the resource provisioning, and an engineer can just run a jupyter like notebook. An entreprenuer can come in to the picture in that sense
or if u think of heroku for that matter as well. The idea is to abstract the deployment process, which obviously involves the provisioning of either containers or ec2 instances, networking and all that
interesting
Like I was thinking about my internship at MarginEdge and how they used AWS buckets to manage restaurant management data (orders, receipts, etc). But I had no idea things could get more abstract
yeah exactly, now uploading stuff to s3 is pretty simple but you can in fact come up with a service where you upload stuff off a different frontend, and the service you can offer? Perhaps automating the s3 lifecycle policies for when you want to archive the objects for cost optimizations. Or a service to keep track of costs on those buckets
@bold pier good luck buddy
or another area one can offer a service is the s3 multi part upload which is a pretty cumbersome process. one can come up with a service that shards a large file, and uploads it
I have seen startups at the aws summit, even come up with things such as a platform to monitor your cloud costs, which ngl on aws itself with a large enough infrastructure running multiple services, can become overwhelming. So yeah, possibilities to BS on how the two connect is endless
another pointer: if u ever used the huggingface API to publish your AI models, know that someone abstracted away the deployment of AI models on the cloud which provisioning those ec2 instances alone will slap you aws quota limits but with huggingface, u just hit deploy and you're there
damn
I really need to learn more about cloud usage in software business
thanks for the insight
I forget that sometimes tbh
working will be the real suffering
but at that point hopefully ill be too busy to notice
and I'll be able to afford stuffed crust 
how many of yall lie on ur resume
Average Joe like me really got no chance in this market
I don't lie in resume, but I make shit up in some behaviorals so I have a good answer for them
Some of my friends landed job lying about intern, some part of me regret doing that
lying about where they interned or the actual work they did?
Worked with hardware then said they did software intern
They just added software dev intern as title
tried omitting my grad date on my resume for some applications, but to no avail
Most companies dont do academic background check
i lie about date
Idk why they care about a 5 month difference
Lie about everything, experiences education name graduation year
I lied Abt grad date technically
To get a current internship
but now I'm kinda f'd cuz they're asking about grad date for ng offers
i did a coding bootcamp online and finished it on july should i just say my grad date is when i finished that
I think a good amount of people here do that, just say your plans changed
wait if i did a bootcamp should i put that in my education on my resume?
i graduated in may
did a bootcamp after i graduate until now
no physics
BS physics -> Masters of engineering (did a 8 month internship where we did software development) -> Self paced bootcamp online (i could stretch the finish date as much as i want??)
ya
im like 99% finished i can just finish and get whatever finish date
at any time
do you think you could take a look at my resume and lmk what you think
Im 99% finished
im just stretching the bootcamp as thin as i can lmao
so i have a reason to be unemployed 🙂
Is the bootcamp expensive?
Does that actually work would be interesting way for expired people to refresh
idk but its my only option now
expired people....
expired goods is better

could be a fix
just push the expcted completetion to whatever the job desc wants
and if you actually land the job and they ask for proof you can provide it
hol up
how often do they NOT conduct background checks on academics?
Always thought that all companies verify grad dates
i put my school grad dates
as what they actually are
BUT im doing an online bootcamp that is a go at your own pace thing so i could stretch the date that is completed to whatever i want and i will have a certification that validates it
smart
i just change the date for the recruiter and if they need a cert i can send a valid one with the date
I could lie in an interview and state that my year-long unemployment streak was all for finding a masters program and applying, but it seems that companies aren't interested in a resume with a gap
ya im trying to avoid a gap
like there's no room to lie in the first place, which sucks for my situation
ya technically what im doing isnt lying
its just stretching the truth
a lot
but i mean who really is going to care other than the recruiter
wish I knew that stretching the truth was allowed back then
one of my business profs at berk told me that its okay to embelish on your resume
he said you should do that actually
at least stretch the truth as much as you possibly can
dont just flat out lie about your gpa, grad dates, experience etc
my outdated boomer career center at RIT is stuck in the past, and think embellishment is the same as lying
just going to put my expected as Dec 2023
and ill complete the bootcamp in dec
and everythings good
what is this bootcamp btw?
If it is udemy, I'll find it on my own. If this plan of yours works out, I'll consider pursuing the course just in case the economy blows after getting my masters
its called a bootcamp but its just an online course on udemy
so again technically i can say its a bootcamp
For jpmc, how long does it take for them to get back to you after you take the oa?
I went on a camping trip this weekend with no service
Did I miss any doom
Or postings
Any tips for a May 2023 grad still searching for a job
defense! defense! defense!
I know it's anecdotal evidence, but I haven't gotten any interviews in 2023 until literally last week when a defense company I applied to in March finally responded
And I'm a loser lol. My best project is a calculator app that I did in class
Defense seems to care more about just having a degree
🔥
downside is that the whole hiring process is super slow for defense
But you have to be a citizen for defense.
yeah that's the downside lol
Alot of us are international Im assuming
another downside is defense resume screen is harder than FAANG
really?
bruh how tf did i pass the screen
oh big defense
i applied to a very small defense company
Space Dynamics Lab
because you're more talented than you give yourself credit for
harder because they require US citizenship 
but...all i did was submit my resume lol
I have a calculator app on my resume and no internships
i listed HTML as a skill too lmao
I have html as a skill 😅
same
Fidelity has so many roles on Linkedin but no response.
Do they even hire people?
Did anyone get the interview?
They give so many ads and job roles but no response.
Same for Actalent.
There are various roles shown on Linkedin but no response.
did you have interview alr?
I have it tomorrow 🙏
gods be praised brother let us pass with flying colors

good luck
brand new bag for pearl but i didnt pay for it
idek how many workday accounts I have at this point
i wish there was 1 workday account and each organization had their own sub-section for their apps
wouldnt have to refill the same blanks again and again
wouldn’t that be amazing!???
I'm glad there's not, less competition 
“stroke of genius”
Idk if this fact is fun
I feel like my hitrates on workday applications are far lower
But they make up to large a portion of applications so 💁♂️
I have never gotten a response from a workday app
someday you will 
Duck workday, they can suck on my toes
Where have you gotten from ?
i currently live there so it's grown on me lol
it's basically a college town. lots of fast food places and stores
They're even building a Raising Cane's there
it's like KFc chicken but 1000000000000000000000000x better
college lol
uhhhh idk lol
ive got multiple offers from workday
same with greenhouse
never got a response from linkedin though
never got a reponse from ripplematch either
that was like 2 years ago
lol
now im offerless


it's actually so sad cuz sophomore year i got offers from everywhere i applied for internships
and everything has just gone down from there
now the places which gave me offers wont even give me interviews

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For your interview tommorow 🙏
How to Fight Back!!!!
Any Given Sunday speech by the Legend Al Pacino. Brilliant delivery of Dialogues.
Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King
Théoden: Éomer, take your éored down the left flank.
Soldier: Flank ready.
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Best of luck brother 
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WGMI this week 

finally uploaded my resume projects to github. Theyre all single upload though so no commit history. Would mentioning what class each of them were done for make it look less sus? Or should i leave it off to give the impression they were personal projects since employers like them more
Dont clarify until they ask 👍
You should be fine?
But always this
so which option should i go for?
less is more
leave it off?
You should be fine
yeah leave off
just make sure your readme is fleshed out and presentable
Do not mention the class thing they will not check
@rain patio good luck bro you got this
Low key invested in this
If u get offer I bet this chat will become bloomer chat
No pressure 
who is hiring atm in all seriousness? not seeing anything new
Databricks was the most recent one
God Damn Im tired of seeing this word “unfortunately”
people who applied to palantir that were not already in the loop started receiving OAs?
literally
No...have you gotten an OA yet?
Damn I haven’t gotten a OA
Also isn’t data bricks asking for new grads from dec 2023
Nah
Companies don’t like to hear “class project” make it seem like a personal project.
Did any of you get selected by Underdog.io? I've been rejcted twice :3 MFs are scam taking up my LinkedIn job feed
Delta is hiring associate software engineers with 0-2 yoe
HELL YEAH THIS MIGHT MEAN UPTICK IN GRAD ROLES NOW
QUARANTINE 2.0
a bit morbid but I'll take any opportunity for grad roles to appear as a W
Anyone ever heard back from delta tho??
we would still need like a year and a half for the rates to fall and jpow unlock money printer
jpow was truly a force in covid era
jpow goated tbh
our economy holding up pretty well post covid compared to everyone else
Its a marathon not a sprint
keeping pushing bro it'll be worth it
give september a chance
Do they sponsor?
took the AWS dev ops pro exam

thought it was easier than the practice exams on tutorialdojo
Do they sponsor? My applications shows I am not selcted to advance within 2 mins :3
idts
I applied to delta like a month ago no response
I don't want the bad things that come with covid. I just want a quarantine where people take the virus with actual caution and companies overhiring like crazy
why companies overhire if quarantine?
Forgot that this was America. I was hoping we'd be like other countries and quarentine before the virus gets within our boarders like New Zealand.
As an american, what do you think will happen with Climate change?
Do you think Manhattan or Florida will sink first?
Dark 💀
Your mom would be the last to sink. Hehe 
florida aint sinking
maybe by the time i'm ded
thats because of hurricanes

Scientists expect the lower third of the state to be underwater by 2100
yeh i hope miami sinks
that place is a shthole
whats considerd lower third
like key areas
miami
but its very unlikely to see any major impact on florida until we're ded
like average water height in tampa is like 11foot
what happens when we all sink
in the future
maybe my kids kids

is it the end of humanity 

😄
in the near futrure 
still laughing at ZOOM RTO
poor tony 🐯 
wym
yeah yknow what give them a year and the people in there will be shitposting too
newport beach will def sink first
the job market is just fucking frustrating and shitty rn
a lot is luck tbh
me everyday i have to do another workday app ^
ive been using bitwarden and made it use the generic URL so if i hit the CREATE ACCT screen i just use the same creds again and again
then just verify email
cuts part of the nuisance out of it
danng howd u finjd out about this
like iot autofills?
it autofills the create new account screen because all they ask for is mail and PW
so i just open the bitwarden menu and hit the option, and it fills it in
honestly just an accidental discovery
do you have a really complex resume?
try simplifyting the formating
mine gets like 95% of the junk automatically
but it does miss bits
always
i skip it
ngl
frfr
just put the tools you use within the job desc as part of what you did
i feel like it makes no difference
i used to put a ton of effort into apps and got no response
Linkedln looking dryer asf today
now i apply far more selectively and just provide important information and send
Recruiters playing bg3 
i have a 99% no response / denial rate
bg3?
Baldurs gate 3
though ive had a few interviews
what
yeah its mostly the skills t_t
handshake has given me the highest response rate
I think recruiters get notified more directly
mhm
thats been my experience
i'm like lowkey panicking
cus i feel like last year even thou it was weak it was def more poppin
lazy bastards
tbh this is the way
lol
but not actually not a bad idea at all @elder forum
interview processes moving fully remote has been kind of bad for the industry
add a personal touch and go to recruiters houses to drop off your resume
can you type for like 10 secs
i want a discord screenshot that says "afk is typing" its funny
got it lol
love it
xD
Stalk hiring manager and call them from street like some hookers
MFAO

It just feels like to big a descion to make remotely
yeah thats true i guess
maybe just pros and cons
I feel like I'm more likable in person vs zoom
Hello fellow unemployed individuals
I have like less charisma on zoom I swear
I mean like but on-sites had higher hit rates too
once you made it to that stage
eventually you're going to have to see your team in person anyways
meh
i never experienced it but i think it woulda been nice to try out getting flown and visiting like G campus 
could be fun i like traveling
again my personal preference I would prefer inperson more than remote
for work as well
@honest estuary did gecko offer to pay for the flight?
I wouldn’t mind going to an in person interview as long as the timeframe works
Damn wtf
got invited for an equipment software engineering role with BETA technologies
they'll ask me stuff about matlab and network communication technology. Don't know why I was selected to move forward despite lacking these tools
on site near where I currently live
Vermont
sucks here because the majority of software roles are embedded or involve some non-swe tools
There are startups here and there that look for other devs, but the competition is intense. Most people just move out to find entry level roles
no way free trip to nyc?
goated name right here
they’re gonna ask “why didn’t u just apply for software developer” 
think they're in boston
i'll take that too but forward deployed is in nyc
do refferals help for cisco??

About to have that defense job interview, and I'm pooping my pants out of fear 😩
I haven't had an interview since September 2022
you are our bastion of hope friend
no pressure 
Youre gonna kill it
they chaged it looks all virtual now
Swe
let us know how it goes
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
They asked me to reverse a palindrome
oh sorry my brain is all scrambled and I didn't type that out right lol
they wanted me to write a function that checks if a string is a palindrome
it was a short interview, but they said it was only supposed to be 15 minutes max
I guess I'll find out if i made it to round 2 soon 

lets go that’s an easy win
get that money @rain patio
did you get it?
uhhh...still waiting to see if i make it to round 2 lol
or if youre using python
return str == str[::-1]
ya i would just use two pointers
wrong, the right answer is to use belmans ford algorithim
should have used stack or 2 pointers
yes
even if it has a constant factor multiplier
runtime doesnt always equal time complexity
if you do str[:] = str[::-1] it reverse in place
2 pointers is also the same run time tho
how is it twice as fast when you have to iterate through the entire string no matter what?
like i said runtime != time complexity
you can argue the tradeoffs for either apporach
approach
if i were in an interview I would mention that you can reverse the string in place in python but would probably do two pointers
I think he means were u able to solve it?
the bloomer fuel rn
oh i was lol
"I can solve any palindrome in O(1) by using an enormously large hash set as a database 🤓 "
So you're telling me I shouldn't just do
s = s.toLowerCase();
s = s.replace(/[^a-z0-9]/g, '');
return s === s.split('').reverse().join('');
who cares about fancy coding when you can show the interviewer that you understand deep magicks like RegEx
well, i got 1 interview for a defense job that I applied to in March
forced to not work there 😔
which company?
Space complexity O(2^n) 
I got rejected from IMC
What gives
And apparently everyone’s getting the Belvedere OA
Wdym, August is just getting started
more apps will open up Mid-August and onwards
Get ready to post on LinkedIn
I saw someone from my college post a doomer post today hopefully he gets a job 
not sure I saw it when he just posted, I’ll check in a couple of hrs and prepare mine in meantime 
It seemed very chat gpt esque
wait that works?
cfbr
everyone in this thread should cfbr everyone else's. so much attention. woah 
if everyone in this thread pays me $1 will I be a millionaire?
You guys connect with unemployed people. I connect with recruiters and CEOs. We are not the same.
Read that again.
i did 
think about it.
the only ceo/recruiter you connect with is yahkuna
im difffert
This is what my uncle told me before he died.
And then immediately came back to life.
he should remain the grave


