#2023_grads

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solemn spire
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Nvm you going for masters

static birch
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at this rate i should

cloud zinc
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August 2022 skull4k

tacit grove
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which companies are you guys currently getting recruiter calls from?

static birch
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selection bias

solemn spire
static birch
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doubt it

solemn spire
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What year are you Liv

static birch
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2023

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starting next month

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they cancel out

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xd

solemn spire
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Liv killing it

static birch
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also i got my offers like 1-2 weeks ago

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how long was i searching for a job you mean?

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2 weeks

solemn spire
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Jesus

static birch
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i interview well, and shockingly im good at writing resumes

native mango
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Really hate the companies asking questions like these :" Tell us about a problem you've solved and what made it interesting to you. " If you want to know just take an interview already

static birch
native mango
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You spend 30 mins for an application and they ghost you

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Lol

static birch
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doesn't matter imo

arctic orchid
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Databricks is wack for not letting 2023 grads apply

rain patio
arctic orchid
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Unless it’s December 2023 graduation date

vital meteor
arctic orchid
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Yee

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Do you guys thing it’s possible we just say December 2023

vital meteor
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I would just yolo and apply, I wouldn't lie though

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There's bg checks

arctic orchid
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I feel like it’s easy to lie about tho

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Graduation dates always move for some reason

bold pier
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45 more days of opt unemployment left, wonder if I should start looking for volunteer work. Someone pls guide me to a real place I can work for free hopium

native mango
signal jewel
bold pier
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Yes I think, but I don't have contacts at my uni

signal jewel
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that might be a good start

arctic orchid
bold pier
arctic orchid
signal jewel
arctic orchid
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I would reach out to professors tbh

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If your close with any

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They can send out emails to alumni and what not

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Yeah

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2024 only bastards

bold pier
arctic orchid
bold pier
arctic orchid
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Like difficult market conditions, unemployment, I understand you’re a very busy man, but your assistance would mean a lot kind of thing

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I’m hella hurt about databricks

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I have a connect from a tech conference that I could leverage

vital meteor
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Just apply anyway gladge

rain patio
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dec 2022

arctic orchid
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The new posting???

rain patio
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nah one 4 days ago

arctic orchid
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oh

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do you have experience

rain patio
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been working full time

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since february

arctic orchid
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oh well that makes more sense

rain patio
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2023

halcyon topaz
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I went to berk but not for cs /(

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:)*

rain patio
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im hella sad today ngl

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berk's football program is fucked

halcyon topaz
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Google

rain patio
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stanny got left out too

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entire pac12 got torn up

arctic orchid
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did yall hear about the stanford president

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crazy shit

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I still think Stanford is too good school for it to effect them tho

oblique wasp
halcyon topaz
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He faked research

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Results

arctic orchid
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He literally had to step down

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surprised yall didnt hear about this

rain patio
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where was this news

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I deleted my tiktok I feel like I’m under a rock

arctic orchid
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Last week The PRESIDENT of Stanford University was exposed for data FRAUD. The evidence is shocking, and it is depressing to see how Marc Tessier-Lavigne is not being appropriately reprimanded for his malpractice.

This looks really bad for Stanford, but also it looks terrible for academia in general. He isn't the only example of data fraud in ...

▶ Play video
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this was the yt vid I saw on it

cloud zinc
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How do you find university projects to participate in that involve an actual audience of users? Is everything limited to clubs or can I just waltz in a business school and ask to join a project?

arctic orchid
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You could always join those car racing competitions cus meche kids need programmers a lot for those projects

hidden scaffold
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is it worth to apply to positions that have a later start date than your graduation date. I am considering just applying or even lying about my grad date but I don't even know if it is even worth it to do neither

narrow harbor
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you're gonna make it bro, idk when or how but you will

cloud zinc
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Can't get into personal projects at this point because I have 3 internships. I need to demonstrate an active work schedule with a development team and "stakeholders" that are both dependant on my contributions

swift falcon
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bought webcam for teams interview

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on monday

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If I don’t get this job I’m gonna have to return it

hazy horizon
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huh ima 2023 grad who had a recruiter

autumn jolt
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I want to see future

vapid oasis
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Did anyone get the sentry oa

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I got rejected 😞

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Just wanted to see the persons resume

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Like wtf are they looking for

vast mica
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companies posting new grad are asking : December 2023 to Jan 2024. What are you doing in this case? I graduted May 2023. Where would my jobless ass go?

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Databricks, Optiver, and dont know how many to come, are you all still applying?

chilly burrow
vast mica
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I see, you are a man of culture and great taste

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but, what to put if they explicitly ask the mont

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month

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Will get a solution to this...

halcyon topaz
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I’m may grad

vapid oasis
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Do u mean Dec 22 grad

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Ohhh

autumn iris
halcyon topaz
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Not every job requires dec 23 or later grad date

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Only seen a few

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I mean it’s literally only been 2 months since may

halcyon topaz
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So after 1 month it’s just over you can’t get a job anymore

rain patio
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That's what I'm doing lol. Finally got an interview 4 MONTHS after applying to one of these defense companies

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I applied in March lol

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or just look up "largest defense companies and contractors in the USA"

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I found the Space Dynamics Lab in my state and applied

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turns out they need a ton of people because they told me they're hiring 6 people for the position I applied to. it originally said they were hiring one person for that position lol

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I guess this is just one company but still

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If a small company is hiring this many people, i wonder what the big defense companies are up to

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I'm pretty sure defense companies get their funding years in advance, so they probably won't be feeling the effects of rising interest rates like big tech has

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They get their contracts and money from the government anyway too

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I bet they get some good deals

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Only downside is they don't pay mega big bucks like big tech, but a SWE defense job certainly pays more than McDonalds, and you get pretty good job security

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Once you get experience and have a valid security clearance, I bet it's easy to find another defense job if you want

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yes

grizzled bronze
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If Veeva calls to resume reject me, I'm gonna tell them "I was expecting this. Could I recommend @pulsar mural for this role?"

autumn iris
vapid oasis
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Wait wtf so if I graduated in June…and I still don’t have a job…I’m basically fucked?

static birch
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no

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gonna be real, ppl here are big time doomers. and it's full on selection bias. pretty much every CV i have reviewed has made a ridiculous amount of basic mistakes. so i would not take the sentiment in this server as gospel

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i get it's a bad market, but not that bad if you are actually doing good shit

rain patio
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what does good shit mean

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if you dont mind

static birch
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good CV is a start

vapid oasis
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Do u mind if I dm you

chilly burrow
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@static birch just curious, but why did you join this server if you're already employed?

static birch
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^

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i'm about to leave tho

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i stuck around a bit after i saw how low the bar was for resumes

chilly burrow
pine topaz
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@static birch showthese unemployed mfs whose boss

chilly burrow
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My company provides it, so kinda weird I guess

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Not desks

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But monitors, keyboards, etc

static birch
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this is true. i have been working on some bullet points but i might update them a little again

limpid mist
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pin in resume since this channel will get wiped soon hugs

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or archived

static birch
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okay but it's just facts that people on here are struggling more to get a job for reasons that are within their control

chilly burrow
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@static birch dm me once you make the tips

autumn iris
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its doomed

static birch
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i just graduated but im starting swe in sept

autumn iris
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everyones unemployed

fallen fox
static birch
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people with good resumes

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etc

autumn iris
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my resume is ok yepge

static birch
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i just read them and i think to myself "what is wrong with this?". legit idk it just makes sense to me

static birch
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no, i'm saying that yes it's a bad market so everyone is going to struggle. but people here (and elsewhere, i only have a sample for here) are not maximising their potential and so they are struggling more

autumn iris
rain patio
autumn iris
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gunna walk to google booth next month and make them give me a job

rain patio
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cos its like saying "just get an interview"

autumn iris
static birch
chilly burrow
autumn iris
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r u international though

static birch
autumn iris
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i think most of the people dooming

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are on visas

rain patio
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im not dogesmile

autumn iris
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just apply to defense

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lockheed is competitive

limpid mist
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how bout raytheon ?

autumn iris
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same sht

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also competitive

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all of the private defense, lockheed, raytheon, boeing, etc

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are competitive

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cause they actually pay well

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compared to other sht

rain patio
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just get into boeing thru one of their auxillary companies

static birch
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boi i already roasted yours

autumn iris
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doing aws certs to max resume

limpid mist
rain patio
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off the top of my head, tapestry solutions. i got an offer for their autonomous avionics swe internship and all the internals were boeing affiliated. there are many more though, boeing is a giant company

static birch
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I think ppl on here would tent to have more polished resumes and leetcode/sys design prep than average
i don't think you get what i'm saying. it is a fact that the sample i have from this server is overall not good. a better CV is going to improve your chance of getting your job. it's really that simple. remove the comparison if you like

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i was responding to your message asking me to stay, as to say i already helped you. not commenting on how good it is

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yeah i have done like 3 leetcode problems maybe

autumn iris
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are u at big tech

static birch
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i mean my interview was a medium i think

autumn iris
rain patio
static birch
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do people know i'm not in the US btw? i also don't have any internships

autumn iris
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okay

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that explains it

static birch
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i just have cracked projects/cv and i interview well

autumn iris
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not in US

static birch
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  • not US
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i mean i have said it several times in this server

autumn iris
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everyone here is applying for jobs in US

static birch
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doesn't rly matter where i am 90% of the time

marble flower
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Fr I'm almost at 300

static birch
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it's not good here but i guess it's worse there idk

autumn iris
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what country

static birch
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uk

autumn iris
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oh

rain patio
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im pretty sure its worse in the uk

static birch
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i don't know, maybe it is

autumn iris
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uk is more saturated

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and pay is worse

static birch
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it is a v good job tho so i guess that wasn't easy

rain patio
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grats

autumn iris
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just get the interview

static birch
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i have no clue i'm not a recruiter. i stopped after 2 interviews and 2 offers lol

autumn iris
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the thing is

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uk market is way different than US

rain patio
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skill issue

swift falcon
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UK is socialist and hands out jobs like candy

static birch
rain patio
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Can you check mine

static birch
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xd

autumn iris
rain patio
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ded is coping

static birch
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it's all in good fun

autumn iris
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200k or bust

vapid oasis
autumn iris
vapid oasis
swift falcon
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2

autumn iris
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big tech/quant/unicorns or bust

swift falcon
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222222222222222222

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it’s always 2

marble flower
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If 2 I'm moving to uk tomorrow

swift falcon
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i need some interview tips

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to git gud

marble flower
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I haven't posted mine here maybe I should

swift falcon
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if only someone here was really good at interviewing and wanted to share

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yes

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didn’t work out good

static birch
marble flower
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Moving to uk rn

rain patio
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deadass yall realize that its easier to get a job in the us

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lmfao

limpid mist
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you have to drive a car tho WazowskiStare

static birch
rain patio
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@static birch you're a better person than i ever hope to be

autumn iris
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entry lvl is super satured everywhere

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thought there was 190k new grads this year

static birch
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no idea i would also never move to the us

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i will prob apply to some more cracked companies when i move to the NL

autumn iris
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same thing

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i wanna see the number for number of entry lvl jobs though

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linkedin has like 100k, and majority are seniors

static birch
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wait only 190k new grads in the entire US? are you serious?

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this year

autumn iris
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190k CS grads

static birch
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bruh we have like 160k in the UK and our population is 1/5

valid flame
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is there any good comprehensive list for SWE jobs that are opening up rn? i know indeed/glassdoor etc but something like that github page was really useful

autumn iris
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but u also gotta take into account

static birch
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unless these stats are lying to me tf

autumn iris
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of other degrees

valid flame
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although most of the jobs on that github page are outdated now

autumn iris
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theres a sht ton of bootcampers+ career switchers

rain patio
autumn iris
valid flame
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bless

autumn iris
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wut

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that doesnt sound right

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170k cs grads includes the masters

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theres not that many people who do masters

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phds arent applying to regular jobs

rain patio
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a lotta people do masters ngl

static birch
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those of you that have had interviews and didn't get an offer, what happened?

rain patio
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you interview again

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duh

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or you cope

static birch
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it seems like most ppl complain about not even getting interviews

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no i mean like

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what happened in the interview

autumn iris
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market completely froze

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in january

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i forgot how many layoffs

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did we have early this yr

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200kish people got laid off this year

static birch
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with the LC thing (in the us) is it actually true that they care if you solve it? all i've heard is they care about how you go about it

autumn iris
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if someone else

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can solve it

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and u can't, then they'll go with the other guy

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if noone can solve it, then sure

static birch
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yeah okay i get that people think that. however, as a manager you want someone that you can work with right? when i solved mine in the interview i did it like we were collaborating on a project

autumn iris
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theres a sht ton of applicants

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theres usually an OA, which is a screening

marble flower
static birch
autumn iris
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like they'll send out an OA, and u get a score on hackerrank,etc

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theres usually multiple technical interviews

rain patio
rain patio
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and what makes it worse is that a lotta people cheat

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in that the questions are leaked

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and people solve it beforehand

autumn iris
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also u gotta realize the amount of competition, a lot of people from T4 are cracked

rain patio
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tbh a lotta people from t4 aren't interested in the companies you are applying to

static birch
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obviously it's impossible to make a sweeping statement, but i feel like there might be a bit of a disconnect between the hiring teams and applicants

like it makes sense to blame it on 'not solving it optimally', but realistically any good employer is going to hire people that can actually work through the problem in a reasonable and collaborative way, taking hints along the way and maintaining a level head

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now

autumn iris
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tell that to them when they get 1k apps a day

static birch
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any good employer is an important point

autumn iris
static birch
autumn iris
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if its an OA, its usually automated

static birch
autumn iris
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but companies are most likely interviewing 20+ people

static birch
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i am not talking about OAs

autumn iris
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yeah

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live interviews

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they are usually interviewing 20+ people

rain patio
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Must be cracked at all times

static birch
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i'm not really talking about 'getting along' with them. i'm talking about having a brain that can work through a problem in a collaborative way. it's a different kinda cracked but cracked nevertheless

vital meteor
autumn iris
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okay but what if u had one applicant

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who solved everything optionally + answered everything

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theres always going to be someone like that

rain patio
static birch
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not enough information to base it on. if they just tell me the solution without going through their brain process then the assumption is gonna be a) they cheated or b) they are gonna be shit to work with and train

autumn iris
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theres also usually

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5-7 interviews

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if ur talking about "getting along" with them

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thats the behavioral part

rain patio
autumn iris
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the bar is just higher

static birch
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says who?

static birch
autumn iris
halcyon topaz
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wtf

marble flower
static birch
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if i can't trust y'all to write decent resumes then why should i trust you to explain your LC thought processes in a competent way? genuinely no shade just being honest

autumn iris
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decent resume != doing leetcode

vital meteor
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You only had 2 onsites for UK companies let's settle down

static birch
autumn iris
autumn iris
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tons of people go watch utube videos on

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just grind leetcode

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blind 75,etc

rain patio
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or they cheat

autumn iris
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yeah

static birch
autumn iris
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200k or bust

rain patio
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ngl uk is harder than us

autumn iris
autumn jolt
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@static birch just curious where do you work?

narrow harbor
rain patio
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cuz i need to be paid to look at ur resume

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i don't do shit for free

static birch
autumn iris
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how much do people even start at in uk

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i heard salaries were like 40k

static birch
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are you thirsty??

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wtf is this "cracked cscareers.dev" server

autumn iris
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majority of people in this discord are applying to big tech, quants, unicorns, etc

static birch
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no i mean some1 just sent me a new server

autumn iris
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oh

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idk

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a cracked cscareers.dev discord then

static birch
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yikes

autumn iris
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better than hopiumland

static birch
vapid oasis
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Has anyone here gotten a job without any internships

static birch
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yes

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jokes on you i'm looking at this gif in reverse in my head

bold pier
hidden scaffold
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Hey guys would yall say it is a good idea to put the lowest salary range for comp expectations on a job application

limpid mist
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put a negative number dogesmile

autumn iris
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put the glassdoor number

hidden scaffold
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I am hella desparate and I saw a new grad post for a job I am really interested in. So am wondering if putting market rate would lower my chances of getting an interview versus putting the lowest range

autumn iris
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literally just use the glassdoor number

static birch
rain patio
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I usually say $0 or competitive salary

vapid oasis
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Bruh at this rate I just need the experience

static birch
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not saying this is a good idea, but just out of curiosity, have people considered freelance web dev or something to ride this out?

halcyon topaz
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Looksmaxxing will get you a job

static birch
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imagine not even posture maxxing in 2023

shut crescent
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tf 145k lmao

autumn iris
rain patio
static birch
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feels weird to announce this as if i'm important, but yo sorry im gonna leave this server now. gl to everyone ❤️

rain patio
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Y’all mfs made her do resume reviews as a part time job 😭

static quarry
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She was the goat 😭

grizzled bronze
solemn spire
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God dammit guys. I needed her to review my resume

blazing oar
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slide into those dms 🤣

bold pier
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Her? There are women in STEM?

narrow harbor
cloud zinc
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damn even the community job board wants nothing but senior devs

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I honestly wish I could send a fake cheating report on myself to invalidate my 2022 bachelors degree. I'm more than willing to repeat 4 years again if it meant I'd have a mineute chance of employment redemption

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I have a feeling that my alma mater would not bode kindly to my attempt in artificially postponing my masters completion in the name of employment

lost ether
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Would they rly care that much? They get to charge you with more money WazowskiStare

rain patio
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i don't get why a job gap is that bad. I'm sure employers know the economy is kinda trash and won't hold it against you

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"Oh you couldn't find a job during one of the toughest economic times in 20 years? You're disqualified from all future employment! Abandon your dreams of being a SWE!!!!"

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i don't see it

ornate cliff
narrow harbor
rain patio
pine topaz
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@static birch we miss u

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fudge ur haters

idle silo
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Has anyone done the optiver OA first question? I couldn't solve it and am still having trouble coming up with a solution that works for all my test cases. It works for the given test cases, but some edge cases I came up with don't work and I'm wondering if I'm misunderstanding the question. Pretty sure I failed the OA, just want to learn from it now. Any help would be appreciated!

cloud zinc
proven anvil
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Hey guys, I am a SWE new grad with about one year of experience at companies including Facebook and IMC Trading. I’m looking for a fully remote (across the globe) new grad position, any suggestions?

vital meteor
grizzled bronze
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August is off to a great start

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late August - September is gonna be even better

sullen hull
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I first week of august was better than last 3 months lol

obsidian crater
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Anyone interview with Valkyrie Trading? I got something coming up soon. Wondering what the interview for the trader position is like.

blazing flame
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annoying c++ problem

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(for swe tho)

obsidian crater
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Mine is 90 minutes

blazing flame
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u got yahkuna trading

obsidian crater
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job hopping = higher tc

blazing flame
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2nd only to Yakuña river trading

obsidian crater
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  • yahkuna is a cruel boss
blazing flame
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he's a real fucking shyster

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yo @pulsar mural

obsidian crater
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if I make a losing trade he threatens to feed me to his manuls

blazing flame
west egret
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I heard @pulsar mural only gives 1% raises

blazing flame
obsidian crater
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He has many of them

blazing flame
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i heard @pulsar mural been called the "dunce of wall street"

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a title unhonourably bestowed

rain patio
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@pine topaz can verify

pine topaz
rain patio
pine topaz
blazing flame
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you fuci=king stupid cat @pulsar mural

hidden scaffold
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Lmao why dont he let me take his spot. I would love to work at fang doing little to no work

wraith yew
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frfr

jade rain
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Guys need a suggestio for a role of Software Engineer at Canonical. My primary languages are C++ & Java, and I have exposure & internship in Python (Basic stuffs).
The role is in Python and after reading Glassdoor reviews, I am in a doubt. I see only 1 offer in recent 5 pages of interview. Aditionally, the process is lengthy as hell. read here:
https://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Canonical-Software-Engineer-Interview-Questions-EI_IE230560.0,9_KO10,27.htm?sort.sortType=RD&sort.ascending=false&filter.jobTitleFTS=Software+Engineer
Please tel me if I should invest in the process or not, based on the curent job market. I am receiving least no. of calls

grizzled bronze
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shitty ass process, don't invest your energy there

whole berry
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ceo thinks hes running apple

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they have insulting tests

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after the resume screen you have to do an aptitude test

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forget canonical

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im sad i still use ubuntu as a work machine but im tryina switch over

stuck pike
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I applied there a couple days ago, they were asking me about how I did in high school lol

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on the application

whole berry
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not worth genuinely giving an essay answer

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they dont even read it

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plus idk if you guys know this but they dont give you a machine to work on, you do all your work ON YOUR OWN MACHINE

grizzled bronze
vital meteor
rain patio
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when this happens we are truly expired

autumn iris
swift falcon
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wangmi

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all I can do is pray rn

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I pray god pls dear jesus that we all may please get gainfully employed in the career we need jesus Allah YWH god papa bless amen

bold pier
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Pray for my interviews next week, I promise I'll refer all of you if I get in!

bold pier
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Myself

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Oh you mean where am I interviewing?

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Spotify, and Morg Stan

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This is my last chance, I'm so fucked if I don't get anything soon

jade rain
grizzled bronze
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you interviewing for yourself too?

fair epoch
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Did any one gave Mckinsey OA? how was it ?

unreal current
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How is the Mckinsey Data Engineering OA?
What kind of questions are they asking?

tame hamlet
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hey guys, sorry if this isnt the right place to ask

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i'm a may 23 grad and i completely missed the ng 23 cycle

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do new grad 2024 jobs still take may 23 grads?

narrow harbor
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if you dont fall within the grad date, you'll probablt get auto rejected

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otherwise if it doesn't specify a grad date, apply apply apply!!!

urban gulch
tame hamlet
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damn

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alright cuz ive been coping

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lowkey ive even been applying for internships and thinking of doing more school

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because of how bad i fumbled 23 NG seasoin

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gotta get ready for 24 ng :(

narrow harbor
#

all good bro there's tons of people in the same situation you're not alone and there's things out of your control like this shitty market

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i dont have any specific advice on doing grad school, but keep applying and keep your head you can definitely still land a job

tacit grove
cloud zinc
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Stupid question, but is entrepreneurship connected to cloud computing?

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I feel like one would plan around making/managing containers or something in tandem with project goals, no?

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I'll have to write up a forum explaining how an entrepreneurship course ties in with my educational goals of learning cloud computing, so this is the only "connection" I can come up with

worthy aspen
# cloud zinc Stupid question, but is entrepreneurship connected to cloud computing?

i dont see how entreprenuership is directly connected to cloud, but its like entreprenuership connecting with almost every other field from software,AI to biotech. But to connect the dots with cloud, one can offer a SAAS business model which is made possible with cloud services. One can abstract away the provisioning of complex infrastructure on the cloud from their customers, and offer some software as a service. For example, I could be wrong on this, but if you think of a platform like databricks where you gotta provision multiple clusters to run a data pipeline job, a data engineer or software engineer don't really want to be going on AWS to provision all the EC2's and network settings to create a cluster. That's where Databricks come in, and abstract away the resource provisioning, and an engineer can just run a jupyter like notebook. An entreprenuer can come in to the picture in that sense

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or if u think of heroku for that matter as well. The idea is to abstract the deployment process, which obviously involves the provisioning of either containers or ec2 instances, networking and all that

cloud zinc
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interesting

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Like I was thinking about my internship at MarginEdge and how they used AWS buckets to manage restaurant management data (orders, receipts, etc). But I had no idea things could get more abstract

worthy aspen
#

yeah exactly, now uploading stuff to s3 is pretty simple but you can in fact come up with a service where you upload stuff off a different frontend, and the service you can offer? Perhaps automating the s3 lifecycle policies for when you want to archive the objects for cost optimizations. Or a service to keep track of costs on those buckets

obsidian crater
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@bold pier good luck buddy

worthy aspen
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or another area one can offer a service is the s3 multi part upload which is a pretty cumbersome process. one can come up with a service that shards a large file, and uploads it

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I have seen startups at the aws summit, even come up with things such as a platform to monitor your cloud costs, which ngl on aws itself with a large enough infrastructure running multiple services, can become overwhelming. So yeah, possibilities to BS on how the two connect is endless

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another pointer: if u ever used the huggingface API to publish your AI models, know that someone abstracted away the deployment of AI models on the cloud which provisioning those ec2 instances alone will slap you aws quota limits but with huggingface, u just hit deploy and you're there

cloud zinc
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damn

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I really need to learn more about cloud usage in software business

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thanks for the insight

raw plank
#

I forget that sometimes tbh

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working will be the real suffering copium but at that point hopefully ill be too busy to notice

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and I'll be able to afford stuffed crust pepewow

wraith yew
#

how many of yall lie on ur resume

solemn spire
#

Average Joe like me really got no chance in this market

grizzled bronze
solemn spire
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Some of my friends landed job lying about intern, some part of me regret doing that

grizzled bronze
solemn spire
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They just added software dev intern as title

cloud zinc
static quarry
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Most companies dont do academic background check

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i lie about date

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Idk why they care about a 5 month difference

vital meteor
tame hamlet
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I lied Abt grad date technically

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To get a current internship

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but now I'm kinda f'd cuz they're asking about grad date for ng offers

halcyon topaz
#

i did a coding bootcamp online and finished it on july should i just say my grad date is when i finished that

grizzled bronze
halcyon topaz
#

wait if i did a bootcamp should i put that in my education on my resume?

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i graduated in may

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did a bootcamp after i graduate until now

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no physics

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BS physics -> Masters of engineering (did a 8 month internship where we did software development) -> Self paced bootcamp online (i could stretch the finish date as much as i want??)

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ya

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im like 99% finished i can just finish and get whatever finish date

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at any time

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do you think you could take a look at my resume and lmk what you think

halcyon topaz
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im just stretching the bootcamp as thin as i can lmao

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so i have a reason to be unemployed 🙂

vital meteor
#

Does that actually work would be interesting way for expired people to refresh

halcyon topaz
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idk but its my only option now

pine topaz
#

expired goods is better

vital meteor
halcyon topaz
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could be a fix

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just push the expcted completetion to whatever the job desc wants

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and if you actually land the job and they ask for proof you can provide it

cloud zinc
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hol up

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how often do they NOT conduct background checks on academics?

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Always thought that all companies verify grad dates

halcyon topaz
#

i put my school grad dates

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as what they actually are

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BUT im doing an online bootcamp that is a go at your own pace thing so i could stretch the date that is completed to whatever i want and i will have a certification that validates it

cloud zinc
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smart

halcyon topaz
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i just change the date for the recruiter and if they need a cert i can send a valid one with the date

cloud zinc
#

I could lie in an interview and state that my year-long unemployment streak was all for finding a masters program and applying, but it seems that companies aren't interested in a resume with a gap

halcyon topaz
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ya im trying to avoid a gap

cloud zinc
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like there's no room to lie in the first place, which sucks for my situation

halcyon topaz
#

ya technically what im doing isnt lying

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its just stretching the truth

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a lot

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but i mean who really is going to care other than the recruiter

cloud zinc
#

wish I knew that stretching the truth was allowed back then

halcyon topaz
#

one of my business profs at berk told me that its okay to embelish on your resume

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he said you should do that actually

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at least stretch the truth as much as you possibly can

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dont just flat out lie about your gpa, grad dates, experience etc

cloud zinc
#

my outdated boomer career center at RIT is stuck in the past, and think embellishment is the same as lying

halcyon topaz
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just going to put my expected as Dec 2023

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and ill complete the bootcamp in dec

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and everythings good

cloud zinc
#

what is this bootcamp btw?

halcyon topaz
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it's through udemy thats why its go at your own pace

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i can send you the link

cloud zinc
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If it is udemy, I'll find it on my own. If this plan of yours works out, I'll consider pursuing the course just in case the economy blows after getting my masters

halcyon topaz
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its called a bootcamp but its just an online course on udemy

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so again technically i can say its a bootcamp

wide sail
#

For jpmc, how long does it take for them to get back to you after you take the oa?

arctic orchid
#

I went on a camping trip this weekend with no service

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Did I miss any doom

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Or postings

burnt orchid
#

Any tips for a May 2023 grad still searching for a job

rain patio
#

I know it's anecdotal evidence, but I haven't gotten any interviews in 2023 until literally last week when a defense company I applied to in March finally responded

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And I'm a loser lol. My best project is a calculator app that I did in class

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Defense seems to care more about just having a degree

halcyon topaz
#

🔥

rain patio
#

downside is that the whole hiring process is super slow for defense

wispy mason
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But you have to be a citizen for defense.

rain patio
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yeah that's the downside lol

wispy mason
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Alot of us are international Im assuming

rain patio
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😩

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true lol

grizzled bronze
#

another downside is defense resume screen is harder than FAANG

rain patio
#

bruh how tf did i pass the screen

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oh big defense

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i applied to a very small defense company

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Space Dynamics Lab

grizzled bronze
ornate cliff
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harder because they require US citizenship KEKW

rain patio
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I have a calculator app on my resume and no internships

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i listed HTML as a skill too lmao

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I have html as a skill 😅

halcyon topaz
#

same

native mango
#

Fidelity has so many roles on Linkedin but no response.

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Do they even hire people?

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Did anyone get the interview?

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They give so many ads and job roles but no response.

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Same for Actalent.

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There are various roles shown on Linkedin but no response.

swift falcon
rain patio
swift falcon
burnt orchid
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good luck

halcyon topaz
#

brand new bag for pearl but i didnt pay for it

manic wedge
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idek how many workday accounts I have at this point

burnt orchid
#

i wish there was 1 workday account and each organization had their own sub-section for their apps

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wouldnt have to refill the same blanks again and again

swift falcon
#

wouldn’t that be amazing!???

dusky folio
#

workday sucks

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I applied to a role last year and it still shows in progress 💀

grizzled bronze
rain patio
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“stroke of genius”

burnt orchid
#

Idk if this fact is fun

arctic orchid
#

I feel like my hitrates on workday applications are far lower

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But they make up to large a portion of applications so 💁‍♂️

vital meteor
#

I have never gotten a response from a workday app

grizzled bronze
bold pier
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Duck workday, they can suck on my toes

woven berry
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How someone on linkedin would post

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corny aSS posts

solemn spire
rain patio
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i currently live there so it's grown on me lol

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it's basically a college town. lots of fast food places and stores

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They're even building a Raising Cane's there

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it's like KFc chicken but 1000000000000000000000000x better

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college lol

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uhhhh idk lol

untold ermine
#

same with greenhouse

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never got a response from linkedin though

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never got a reponse from ripplematch either

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that was like 2 years ago

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lol

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now im offerless

vital meteor
untold ermine
#

it's actually so sad cuz sophomore year i got offers from everywhere i applied for internships

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and everything has just gone down from there

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now the places which gave me offers wont even give me interviews

pine topaz
#

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For your interview tommorow 🙏

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Best of luck brother hugs

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WGMI this week gladge

rain patio
#

finally uploaded my resume projects to github. Theyre all single upload though so no commit history. Would mentioning what class each of them were done for make it look less sus? Or should i leave it off to give the impression they were personal projects since employers like them more

lost ether
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Dont clarify until they ask 👍

arctic orchid
rain patio
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so which option should i go for?

arctic orchid
#

less is more

rain patio
#

leave it off?

arctic orchid
#

You should be fine

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yeah leave off

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just make sure your readme is fleshed out and presentable

rain patio
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Do not mention the class thing they will not check

raw plank
#

@rain patio good luck bro you got this

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Low key invested in this

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If u get offer I bet this chat will become bloomer chat

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No pressure dogesmile

tacit grove
#

who is hiring atm in all seriousness? not seeing anything new

vital meteor
solemn spire
#

God Damn Im tired of seeing this word “unfortunately”

crystal steppe
#

people who applied to palantir that were not already in the loop started receiving OAs?

vapid oasis
#

Damn I haven’t gotten a OA

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Also isn’t data bricks asking for new grads from dec 2023

crystal steppe
plain bronze
bold pier
#

Did any of you get selected by Underdog.io? I've been rejcted twice :3 MFs are scam taking up my LinkedIn job feed

cloud zinc
#

Delta is hiring associate software engineers with 0-2 yoe

oblique wasp
cloud zinc
#

HELL YEAH THIS MIGHT MEAN UPTICK IN GRAD ROLES NOW

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QUARANTINE 2.0

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a bit morbid but I'll take any opportunity for grad roles to appear as a W

arctic orchid
pine topaz
#

we need a covid 2

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so companies rollback RTO

arctic orchid
#

we would still need like a year and a half for the rates to fall and jpow unlock money printer

rain patio
#

jpow was truly a force in covid era

arctic orchid
#

jpow goated tbh

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our economy holding up pretty well post covid compared to everyone else

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Its a marathon not a sprint

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keeping pushing bro it'll be worth it

pine topaz
#

give september a chance

dusky folio
autumn iris
#

took the AWS dev ops pro exam

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thought it was easier than the practice exams on tutorialdojo

bold pier
rain patio
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I applied to delta like a month ago no response

raw plank
#

easy remote new grad 100k+ TC requires sacrifice thanos

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**other people's sacrifice

cloud zinc
#

I don't want the bad things that come with covid. I just want a quarantine where people take the virus with actual caution and companies overhiring like crazy

signal jewel
cloud zinc
#

Forgot that this was America. I was hoping we'd be like other countries and quarentine before the virus gets within our boarders like New Zealand.

pine topaz
#

As an american, what do you think will happen with Climate change?

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Do you think Manhattan or Florida will sink first?

signal jewel
#

Dark 💀

wet jacinth
#

Your mom would be the last to sink. Hehe KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

autumn iris
#

maybe by the time i'm ded

pine topaz
#

arent like home insurances fleeing away from florida

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because they think its doomed

autumn iris
#

thats because of hurricanes

pine topaz
autumn iris
#

Scientists expect the lower third of the state to be underwater by 2100

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yeh i hope miami sinks

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that place is a shthole

pine topaz
autumn iris
#

like key areas

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miami

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but its very unlikely to see any major impact on florida until we're ded

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like average water height in tampa is like 11foot

pine topaz
#

what happens when we all sink

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in the future

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maybe my kids kids

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is it the end of humanity WazowskiStare

autumn iris
pine topaz
#

ive heard philipines is gonna sink

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and indonesia

rich prairie
pine topaz
#

in the near futrure KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

rich prairie
#

still laughing at ZOOM RTO

grizzled bronze
rich prairie
#

wym

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yeah yknow what give them a year and the people in there will be shitposting too

arctic orchid
rich prairie
#

the job market is just fucking frustrating and shitty rn

arctic orchid
#

a lot is luck tbh

burnt orchid
#

me everyday i have to do another workday app ^

pine topaz
rich prairie
# pine topaz

ive been using bitwarden and made it use the generic URL so if i hit the CREATE ACCT screen i just use the same creds again and again

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then just verify email

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cuts part of the nuisance out of it

pine topaz
#

like iot autofills?

rich prairie
#

it autofills the create new account screen because all they ask for is mail and PW

so i just open the bitwarden menu and hit the option, and it fills it in

rich prairie
pine topaz
#

thanks for sharing :3

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still need to fill the rest though sadge

rich prairie
#

but it does miss bits

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always

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i skip it

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ngl

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frfr

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just put the tools you use within the job desc as part of what you did

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i feel like it makes no difference

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i used to put a ton of effort into apps and got no response

arctic orchid
#

Linkedln looking dryer asf today

rich prairie
#

now i apply far more selectively and just provide important information and send

vital meteor
#

Recruiters playing bg3 gladge

rich prairie
#

i have a 99% no response / denial rate

arctic orchid
#

bg3?

rich prairie
#

just like everyone else lol

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at least it feels like 99

vital meteor
rich prairie
#

though ive had a few interviews

rich prairie
arctic orchid
#

handshake has given me the highest response rate

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I think recruiters get notified more directly

rich prairie
#

mhm

arctic orchid
#

thats been my experience

rich prairie
#

do you use a personal account

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or school provided / assoicated

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same

arctic orchid
#

i'm like lowkey panicking

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cus i feel like last year even thou it was weak it was def more poppin

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lazy bastards

rich prairie
#

well

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then now what

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stalk rctrs on linkedin?

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💀

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funny story about that

arctic orchid
#

tbh this is the way

rich prairie
#

i tried that once in downtown LA

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LAPD was not happy

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jk

arctic orchid
#

lol

rich prairie
#

IS JOKE

#

IS

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JOKE

arctic orchid
#

but not actually not a bad idea at all @elder forum

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interview processes moving fully remote has been kind of bad for the industry

vital meteor
#

add a personal touch and go to recruiters houses to drop off your resume

rich prairie
#

can you type for like 10 secs
i want a discord screenshot that says "afk is typing" its funny

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got it lol

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love it

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xD

solemn spire
pine topaz
#

how do u noe about civic holiday

rich prairie
#

MFAO

pine topaz
#

how does it like to be working americans

vital meteor
arctic orchid
#

It just feels like to big a descion to make remotely

#

yeah thats true i guess

#

maybe just pros and cons

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I feel like I'm more likable in person vs zoom

ornate cliff
#

Hello fellow unemployed individuals

arctic orchid
#

I have like less charisma on zoom I swear

ornate cliff
#

Lol before covid that was the norm can you imagine

arctic orchid
#

I mean like but on-sites had higher hit rates too

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once you made it to that stage

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eventually you're going to have to see your team in person anyways

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meh

vital meteor
#

i never experienced it but i think it woulda been nice to try out getting flown and visiting like G campus gladge

arctic orchid
#

could be fun i like traveling

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again my personal preference I would prefer inperson more than remote

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for work as well

rain patio
#

@honest estuary did gecko offer to pay for the flight?

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I wouldn’t mind going to an in person interview as long as the timeframe works

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Damn wtf

cloud zinc
#

got invited for an equipment software engineering role with BETA technologies

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they'll ask me stuff about matlab and network communication technology. Don't know why I was selected to move forward despite lacking these tools

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on site near where I currently live

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Vermont

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sucks here because the majority of software roles are embedded or involve some non-swe tools

#

There are startups here and there that look for other devs, but the competition is intense. Most people just move out to find entry level roles

wraith yew
#

at least u got response

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they're ghosting me rn

gloomy terrace
#

no way free trip to nyc?

wraith yew
#

I'd take anything at this point

#

down bad for job

arctic orchid
raw plank
wraith yew
gloomy terrace
wraith yew
#

fr

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surely I can get a job with googls data analytics certificate

arctic orchid
#

do refferals help for cisco??

arctic orchid
rain patio
#

About to have that defense job interview, and I'm pooping my pants out of fear 😩

#

I haven't had an interview since September 2022

pine topaz
#

no pressure dogesmile

arctic orchid
#

Youre gonna kill it

sturdy forge
#

they chaged it looks all virtual now

sturdy forge
#

Swe

halcyon topaz
#

let us know how it goes

rain patio
#

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

They asked me to reverse a palindrome

#

oh sorry my brain is all scrambled and I didn't type that out right lol

#

they wanted me to write a function that checks if a string is a palindrome

#

it was a short interview, but they said it was only supposed to be 15 minutes max

#

I guess I'll find out if i made it to round 2 soon prayge

vital meteor
rain patio
narrow harbor
#

how do you do that

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is it two pointers at start and end

rain patio
#

get that money @rain patio

halcyon topaz
#

easy bro

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nice

rain patio
halcyon topaz
#

return str == str[::-1]

pine topaz
#

great stuff @rain patio

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hopefully you make it to round 2

halcyon topaz
#

ya i would just use two pointers

pine topaz
#

wrong, the right answer is to use belmans ford algorithim

shut thistle
#

should have used stack or 2 pointers

halcyon topaz
#

how does 2 pointers run in O(n/2) time?

#

linear time is always linear time

shut thistle
#

yes

halcyon topaz
#

even if it has a constant factor multiplier

#

runtime doesnt always equal time complexity

#

if you do str[:] = str[::-1] it reverse in place

#

2 pointers is also the same run time tho

#

how is it twice as fast when you have to iterate through the entire string no matter what?

#

like i said runtime != time complexity

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you can argue the tradeoffs for either apporach

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approach

#

if i were in an interview I would mention that you can reverse the string in place in python but would probably do two pointers

raw plank
#

the bloomer fuel rn

rain patio
#

"I can solve any palindrome in O(1) by using an enormously large hash set as a database 🤓 "

autumn iris
#

hows the job hunt

#

is everyone getting interviews now

steady sage
#

who cares about fancy coding when you can show the interviewer that you understand deep magicks like RegEx

wraith yew
#

can't not want to work there if they reject me 💀

rain patio
wraith yew
#

forced to not work there 😔

autumn iris
#

gg

tacit grove
arctic orchid
#

I got rejected from IMC

#

What gives

#

And apparently everyone’s getting the Belvedere OA

grizzled bronze
#

Wdym, August is just getting started

#

more apps will open up Mid-August and onwards

rain patio
#

Get ready to post on LinkedIn

#

I saw someone from my college post a doomer post today hopefully he gets a job prayge

#

not sure I saw it when he just posted, I’ll check in a couple of hrs and prepare mine in meantime skull4k

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It seemed very chat gpt esque

signal jewel
# bold pier cfbr

everyone in this thread should cfbr everyone else's. so much attention. woah dogesmile

bold pier
pine topaz
#

You guys connect with unemployed people. I connect with recruiters and CEOs. We are not the same.

pine topaz
bold pier
rain patio
pine topaz
bold pier