2023_grads

[dusty raven]

ty broski, hoping you also get a job

[pine topaz]

no because there wil lbe no jobs

jk guys, monday we will see a massive amoutn of postings

[rain patio]

U still have time to do one

[midnight robin]

How do u know

[rain patio]

Be like yahkuna have no friends and get job and get gains

[unreal rampart]

What company

[marble ivy]

i only had one offer and negotiated from 70 to 90k

u don’t lose anything in negotiating

[autumn iris]

but wat if they rescind

[marble ivy]

and if they rescind ur offer cuz of that, it was a garbage company to work for

so u dodged a bullet

[autumn iris]

[autumn iris]

did u negotiate over email

how u even do that

[marble ivy]

cuz it was a lowball offer

i’m in nyc

[autumn iris]

oh

[marble ivy]

and even my 90k is still lowball

[autumn iris]

yeah thats more reasonable

[hidden scaffold]

did anyone answer the follow up question asking for your experience taking the oa?

[tardy geode]

90k in nyc is low

[hidden scaffold]

I wonder if it's anonymous as there are a lot of criticisms I would like to levy

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah I don't know how anyone does well in that number matching game

Almost positive I am getting an instant rejection soon

[rain patio]

Which OA?

[distant pebble]

ya 70k for new grad in nyc seems rough esp given tax and rent

[pine topaz]

im just on hopium brother

[pine topaz]

recesion proof job too...

[untold ermine]

which, i wanna do it for fun now

[spring lodge]

did u end up asking them ? i also got the same thing for scc

[grizzled bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/toss-a-coin-to-your-witcher-o-valley-of-plenty-jaskier-bard-song-gif-15952117

[narrow harbor]

lmao same place

nah not yet it's the weekend

[untold ermine]

wat this say b4 deletion ?

[pine topaz]

dat ders more job openings

idk why mods remove it

maybe false hopium...

bruh

[bold pier]

If there are more job openings where's my offer :3

[pine topaz]

:rope:

[untold ermine]

did they give a src

or data analysis ?

[bold pier]

If they quote linkedin then it's just 1 Microsoft job posted separately for all states reposted 5 times every week

[untold ermine]

^^

also like half of those lead to dead or unmonitored postings

[bold pier]

Yeah, 85% of linkedin postings are trash

[untold ermine]

id say higher lol

[bold pier]

99%

and then I'm too trash for the remaining 1%

[untold ermine]

https://www.trueup.io/job-trend

Hope it's a trend. On Blind, people also seem to be hearing back from recruiters more often.

https://www.layoffs.io/ shows layoffs have decreased over the past couple months as well.

Tech stocks hitting ATH and QQQ up 20%+. AI wars picking up steam. Rate hikes ending.

Market turning around?

[rain patio]

all we need is Covid 2.0 and everything is back to normal

[pine topaz]

i dont remember

[autumn iris]

i mean covid bubble popped

companies overhired by a sht ton

im pretty sure its fixed for the next hiring season

[raw plank]

imagine covid 2.0

[obsidian crater]

rip boomers

[raw plank]

imagine all my problems being fixed without putting in the work

[autumn iris]

idk im pretty sure they know wat to do if covid 2.0 comes again

but the main thing was that they put a sht ton of money in bioinformatics, so if pandemic happens again, they can solve it way faster

[raw plank]

new grad 0 exp remote 80k

[autumn iris]

yeah

[obsidian crater]

the issue with covid was logistical and legal, not really medical

covid wasn't deadly to most, trump just mishandled it

[autumn iris]

yeah

[uneven linden]

we need another pandemic ong

[autumn iris]

well trump got impeached

and biden's getting kicked off

[autumn iris]

so we're gunna get trump v2.0

[rain patio]

Me if Covid 2.0^

[autumn iris]

idk, i just gotta keep grinding

[raw plank]

[autumn iris]

i'm pretty sure i should get something before i graduate in december

[obsidian crater]

o7

[autumn iris]

then no more severance

[obsidian crater]

severance is a luxury anyways

[plain bronze]

Omg 😳

[obsidian crater]

most companies don't offer anything

[autumn iris]

but yeah, not really any doom n gloom yet until we see how

hiring market gunna be in august/sept

may grads prob r doom n glooming though

[raw plank]

we're all gonna make it

[rain patio]

I JUST WANT AN OFFER

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[autumn iris]

i mean if ur getting interviews, then i dont think its that bad

then again might be

[obsidian crater]

me

[autumn iris]

and we'll all be unemployed forever

[obsidian crater]

I have ptsd from this recruiting season

[autumn iris]

[obsidian crater]

I'm never gonna forget it

😭

[rain patio]

Bro I would love to but I’m in OA hell!

[autumn iris]

i still wanna see the statistics on new grads/ job available before covid

like

a sht ton of people entered CS degrees during that time period

but before it was kinda stable

[raw plank]

you will

[rain patio]

Make sure u give a firm handshake that’s step #1

[autumn iris]

also

the fking russian war needs to end

[raw plank]

money solves a lot of problems

[autumn iris]

need more money

[obsidian crater]

yeah

[autumn iris]

[obsidian crater]

need to become an idea factory and then hire Ded

Sr. MLOps engineer @ Yahkuna Trading

[autumn iris]

so my current cohort is like

20ish people atm for fall

and the school accepted 100+ more people into the program

kinda feel bad for those guys cause they have 2 fight for funding

[obsidian crater]

[grizzled bronze]

They're paying for your travel though right?

[autumn iris]

doomed

[obsidian crater]

rope

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

dam...

ur commuting that far

best of luck brother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSJDhZvLtak

lets get it monday

[autumn iris]

6.3k applicants

and they still couldnt find someone after reposting

[pine topaz]

it sasys 130

[autumn iris]

6.3k applicants, 130 in last 2 days

[pine topaz]

...

wow...

stop dooming

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

dis week we are allg onna make it

[autumn iris]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[grizzled bronze]

Statistically we're not all gonna make it, but that's okay those of you who don't will find a more fulfilling career

[pine topaz]

are we all gonna live in our parents home forever

dats the attitude evos

lets get it

lets get the bag

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

im going to try to privcatize water supply to prepare myself for immense wealth in the upcoming climate wars

[autumn iris]

just become a tech influencer

sell the shovels

[pine topaz]

theres no more shovels

[autumn iris]

[rain patio]

day in the live of ded tiktok when?

[pulsar mural]

:susgeBusiness:

[final ore]

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1132912707503390782 can someone review?

[bold pier]

my parents don't have a home

[pine topaz]

my fellow tenant, your rent is due, let me know when you etransfer me

[bold pier]

ill transfer deez nutz to you

[pine topaz]

okay

[bold pier]

date and time? should I send calendy link?

[pine topaz]

no need, I am finding another tenant and evicting you asap after I cotnact my lawyers and proeprty managers buddy

[bold pier]

throw me in jail also, I will report that as employment days to USCIS

[pine topaz]

no, I would rather you experience homelessness

your not getting shelter and food for free

[bold pier]

damn, I was ready to drop my soap already

[hardy cypress]

The jargon from this email gives me PTSD

[solemn spire]

I got 1 month to find job or im getting cooked in all family gatherings next month about why im still unemployed

[unreal rampart]

If you sign an offer letter with a start date can the company still cancel your offer before you start?

[west egret]

Just don’t go to said family gatherings

[hushed ember]

family gatherings are lame

[fallen fox]

🪢

[arctic orchid]

MCHIRE

[swift falcon]

watched a bit of pawn stars yesterday and the episodes must have been from 2008 or sth because every excuse was “in this economy”

and here we are a decade and a half later

can’t even get hired as mcdonalds crew member with a CS degree

[raw plank]

Probably leave out your degree if ur applying to fast food/retail

[tacit grove]

I'm not seeing any new openings on linkedin :/

[fallen fox]

🪢

[raw plank]

no

[fallen fox]

[high owl]

6fig remote job

Pog

[narrow harbor]

i wonder the split of apps like new grad/bootcamp/self taught/experienced

[fallen fox]

95% bootcamp + self taught; 5% degrees

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[shut thistle]

STOP F TRUSTING THESE NUMBERS

its number of people clicked the link - not necessarily applied

[arctic orchid]

Is CS the new psychology degree?

turns out learning how to make a Kelvin to Celsius and farenheit converter in Java isn't enough to get a job

[fallen fox]

yes but it is good for dooming

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[arctic orchid]

I will say there were far more job postings this time last year

[autumn jolt]

Someone said the market is improvin

[arctic orchid]

at least for new grad

its still a bit early, but there were def more

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[raw plank]

The market may not be improving, but we are

When jobs open up 10 years from now I will be ready

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[high owl]

[autumn iris]

[obsidian crater]

rope

[paper basalt]

[swift falcon]

bros

if recrooter ghosts me

is it ok to talk to another recrooter

esp one that seems like they're actively hiring for the job

or should I cold-contact some senior SE at the company and be like "who tf is the hiring manager in charge of this position"

There might be a slight delay in the process since the hiring manager is on leave. Please hang on tight and feel free to reach out for any information.

this is what was sent to me

almost a month ago

I've followed up 3 times asking for info

well technically two times

I can see this recruiter liking shit on linkedin

[signal jewel]

just dont spam everyone.

[swift falcon]

yeah for sure, I think if I don't get anywhere with another person I'll just write it off as ghosted

I just don't want to give up on this job without a fight

[signal jewel]

yeah you can definitely contact other recruiter.

[cerulean zealot]

not a 2023 grad but in this sitch right now. Gonna give it a day or two more then just cold apply

[swift falcon]

yeah idk maybe I can be patient, technically it was only 3 days ago since my last followup

like friday

[signal jewel]

you guys pick random recruiters to cold mail or only from those companies which are actively hiring?

[swift falcon]

i'm just desperate atm

[signal jewel]

bruh... weekend 💀

[swift falcon]

I dont' usually do it

[swift falcon]

yeah but still

they had full day today

i stg this job was made for me

it would be literally perfect

😭

[cerulean zealot]

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY

[proper cradle]

Are people able to get jobs now?

Are people getting any response or what?

[high owl]

Nah bro it’s Joever

[rain patio]

it’s rough out here

[bold pier]

Guys, I went for the shady start-up interview and didn't get kidnapped

On the other hand 1 hour behavioral interview is weird for a first round

[high owl]

1 hour behavioral? They asking for your life story?

[paper basalt]

Was it an interrogation? “On March 5th 3pm 2017 what were you doing “

[arctic orchid]

Anyone down to start a discord server where we compile new grad job postings?

The sole purpose of the sever im starting is to only compile the job postings

divide and conquer

We also need that

this server gets too bloated

[rain patio]

lmk if u make this

[arctic orchid]

I already have several people interested

[swift falcon]

I love how millerterry spouses get a specific job but vets don’t

wait a minnit

[vast mica]

I graduated in May and unable to find a job yet. My ead is yet to arrive for opt to start. can anyone tell me if I can work anywhere,? its getting hard to pay bills

[swift falcon]

step 1. add 500 connections
step 2. make a post about being a vet and not finding any vet friendly places hiring vet swes
step. 3 profit?????

I SURVED MAH CUNTRY, WER MA JERB?!?

https://tenor.com/view/happy-fourth-of-july-fireworks-america-celebration-dog-gif-17696493

[solemn kite]

I'm interested too!

[narrow harbor]

has anyone got passed the initial screen for any NVIDIA roles?

i get resume rejected from all of em lol

[rain patio]

same

[rain patio]

u get rejected for the one they just posted?

[shut thistle]

can we do research under prof? to stop the clock?

[obsidian crater]

yes

[shut thistle]

do they pay?

[obsidian crater]

Depends on your prof

If you can get an RA job

[shut thistle]

I see, 👍

[obsidian crater]

local startup founded by PhDs and doctors

I didn't get my EAD yet but I plan on working there when I do if they have room

The pay is ass though lmao

true

I interned there

But they told me I could come back anytime

Yeah around that amount lol

rather not doxx myself

it's nowhere near you most likely

kinda shitty lcol area

nah other side of the country lol

[wet jacinth]

When will my suffering end?

[obsidian crater]

ah

[wet jacinth]

everything sucks

[obsidian crater]

generally correct

I saw a guy on r/resumes who went to Purdue and can't find anything

Looks like a lot of people are screwed this year

[wet jacinth]

How to not be one of them?

[obsidian crater]

Be like bing chilling

[swift falcon]

why not MIT

[obsidian crater]

Your day starts with a development team meeting where you go through announcements, sync up projects, and discuss any potential issues. After the meeting, you put your head down and work on your assigned tickets in Jira.

You spend the first part of the day reviewing your notes and prioritizing tasks for the junior developers. You make sure that you and the other developers are working on the most important tasks first, but you’re free to choose which ones you work on.

For lunch, you meet a friend at the cafe near his work. You haven’t seen your friend for a few months, so you talk about life and your careers. You can’t help but feel very lucky for the freedom you have to take a long lunch break and meet your friend, as he has to hurry back to the office and get working right at the hour.

Back at home, you continue working on tickets in Jira. At one point a junior web developer calls you on Slack and asks how to fix an issue. You expertly show him the process and he thanks you for being so helpful.

You notice that another developer has been really on top of it today, so you mention them in the company Slack channel and thank them for being so awesome. Many of your team members respond to your shoutout with party emojis and hearts.

In the afternoon your team has a standup meeting where you discuss what projects you’re all working on and whether there’s anything anyone can do to help. Your leader points out one of the awesome projects you’re working on and thanks you for being so attentive to the users’ needs.

After the standup you do some QA and manually test a couple of the changes your team made today. You write automated tests to ensure the functionality that was just worked on. You find one little bug, which you log and then fix easily.

You finish up your day by taking a look at tomorrow’s schedule and planning accordingly.

[wet jacinth]

yeah, it's too late for all of that.

[obsidian crater]

I saw this on a job posting

"What will your day look like with us?"

Is this you?

true

you'd be at JS

[round lake]

Anyone had an interview with Oracle recently?

[obsidian crater]

time for daily crying session

[wet jacinth]

it's based on luck

referrals stopped working around March

[obsidian crater]

I am defeated tbh, I got a referral to my friend's company - got 100% on OA and then got rejected. The next day I see two job postings for senior/mid SWEs to replace the one I applied to.

[hardy cypress]

Are jobs really not hiring because of tiktokers or because the "recession" we are in?

[obsidian crater]

🪢

[autumn jolt]

apart from Linkedin, Handshake and applying directly on job sites, what are the other places to look out for job postings?

[obsidian crater]

It's because tech overhired during covid and there isn't that much demand

[hardy cypress]

Fucking hell man I am finished

[obsidian crater]

On top of that there are like 400K layoffs since 2022

[autumn jolt]

Oh really..gotta try

[obsidian crater]

So why would a company hire NGs when they can hire laid off experienced people?

[wet jacinth]

yeah, fuck the NGs

I'm open to negotiation

[hardy cypress]

what do you guys think of revature and the other recruiter company thing?

[wet jacinth]

at this point, yes.

I need exp

[wheat forum]

the latter lol

[hardy cypress]

They keep borderline harassing me to apply I might just give in but it seems silly as a new grad

[wheat forum]

apply to waht

[vital meteor]

Tiktokers caused the recession

[hardy cypress]

Revature

[wet jacinth]

Revature caused the recession?

[bold pier]

Kind of yes, it was like a therapy session

[hardy cypress]

No, they just keep emailing me to apply to their program them and synergistIQ or something like that

[obsidian crater]

synergistic is a scam thing

they want you to pay them so they can train you and then they promise to place you with a company

but it's not guaranteed

[wet jacinth]

oh yeah, that's a scam.

[hardy cypress]

That's what I figured, that's why I keep ignoring them

[wet jacinth]

don't apply to it

[hardy cypress]

Revature seems legit tho from what I've seen online

[swift falcon]

ummm

no tf not

its a total scam

tho in this economy

[hardy cypress]

fuck....

[swift falcon]

wngmi

[hardy cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/roy-batty-blade-runner-scifi-raining-sad-gif-3428354

I don't think I can take another rejection email bros

[wet jacinth]

logout of your email

[arctic orchid]

Sad reality but its normal I had new grad final round get canceled and the next day same exact role and description up on linkedln disgused as an internship paying $25 an hour

[swift falcon]

feelsbadman.gif.jpeg.com.gonewrong.gonesexual

[arctic orchid]

I feelbad for the people who had there amazon internship return offers canceled

[marble ivy]

ya cuz entry lvl swe is dead

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-spongebob-squarepants-gif-24438933

Don't say stuff like that. I have 0 yoe.

[marble ivy]

companies aren’t doing this tho, it’s easier to get a job as a new grad than being laid off with 1-3 yoe

[fair zephyr]

not if those ppl apply to entry level

[wet jacinth]

which ones?

[fair zephyr]

why would they hire a ng to swe 1 over 1-3yoe to the same role

[swift falcon]

🧢

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-chappelle-show-pop-copy-why-cause-fuck-em-gif-15886017

[swift falcon]

aint no way

[arctic orchid]

I feel like a woman over 30

[swift falcon]

try being a man over 30

[arctic orchid]

"expired goods"

[marble ivy]

They can’t apply to new grad, it’s auto reject

[marble ivy]

cuz they want 2024 and 2023 grads, ppl with 1-3 yoe can’t apply to those

[arctic orchid]

30+ year old > CS new grad

[hardy cypress]

So, what are we gonna do now?

[arctic orchid]

at least the milf market is big

[vast mica]

who want 1 yeo with 2023 grad, I am eligible

[arctic orchid]

we dont even get that luxury.

[wet jacinth]

no one

clearly

[fair zephyr]

ya youre right. Companies do have entry level roles equivalent to what a new grad would get but on separate listings tho

[marble ivy]

yeah and those listings barely exist

trust me i’ve been looking for 7+ months

[arctic orchid]

the lack of postings has been a bit concerning ngl

this time last year I swear there were alot more new grad

[fair zephyr]

tbf for the past months ng listings also barely exist

[hardy cypress]

was tech a bubble all along?? were the 90's internet deniers right all along?????

[marble ivy]

i got such a lowball offer for nyc with 1+ yoe in faang but day by day im more thankful for it

[arctic orchid]

tech is still the future

[wet jacinth]

'a bit concerning' ? I'm dying of anxiety.

[fair zephyr]

r u trying to hop <1 yoe?

[swift falcon]

its ova for da little guy

[marble ivy]

No i was laid off after a year and accepted a lowball offer

[hardy cypress]

I know, I am just joking about how people used to think the internet was a fad

[arctic orchid]

but these down streches i think are healthy for our job prospects in the long run

because the last two years were certainly not normal

[hardy cypress]

I mean, eventually we will all get jobs right?.... right?

[fair zephyr]

r u still looking or chilling rn?

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[arctic orchid]

at the end of the day techs a meritocracy

[marble ivy]

i casually browse here and there but there’s nothing

[wet jacinth]

if you're chillin here, you must have no life.

[arctic orchid]

I truly believe that

[rain patio]

Has anyone made it to McDonalds SWE, I kept on getting rejected for their interns

[swift falcon]

linkedin really over doing it, they sprinkle in a 100 stale promoted jobs in with like default jobs from all time to make it look like there is a robust amount

[marble ivy]

linkedin is so dumb, companies set their role to remote and entry level when in reality it’s onsite + senior and linkedin does nothing about it

[hardy cypress]

Well I don't speak canadian so I couldn't do that

[marble ivy]

linkedin needs to ban these companies that abuse that

[arctic orchid]

linkedln is bloatware

[swift falcon]

yet we all use it

because its all we got

[arctic orchid]

such a cluttered fucking website

[swift falcon]

[marble ivy]

their swe’s have insane wlb and make 250k new grad

[hardy cypress]

Must be nice

[marble ivy]

they be working like 4 hours a day and have some of the greatest benefits of any tech company

[arctic orchid]

yeah its pretty nuts

[fair zephyr]

i just started a position w a company w a shitty role, looks like ill be stuck on it for longer than i thought then ugh

[arctic orchid]

building bloatware takes a lot of work after all

[marble ivy]

yeah my role is still swe thankfully and it’s a big company but very low pay

[arctic orchid]

I'm building a linkedln job scraper

anyone interested in collabing

[rain patio]

I don’t have time for a proj but I’ll gladly use it 😂

[swift falcon]

yeah lets call it dimplify

[wispy mason]

I'm in!

[fair zephyr]

im security swe want desperately to go to pure dev at least pay is decent thats the only thing thatll make it tolerable i guess

without mentioning oncall

[arctic orchid]

dm for serious inquires i have long term project in this

I've somewhat already started

[swift falcon]

dm me

[wispy mason]

I just want a place where entry level means 0 experience😭

It's that too much to ask

[marble ivy]

sry 235

big difference huh

[arctic orchid]

I've gotten it to work

from 1 to the 40th page

but you're right they limit hard

[marble ivy]

they don’t but they used to have some pretty nice diversity programs

i have a friend who got a swe internship there in 2019 without any leetcode

they r fulltime swe there now

[swift falcon]

tell them to give me a ref

[marble ivy]

they r not hiring

[wispy mason]

Are people getting interviewed? Like ones who have no experience?

[wet jacinth]

no

[wispy mason]

All I'm getting is OAs

Idk if they're autogenerated

[wet jacinth]

what OAs?

[arctic orchid]

I use my gfs account

so idc if they black list lol

[wispy mason]

The same ones on the head process thread

Just like a few tho

[arctic orchid]

Did you switch IPs ?

[wet jacinth]

Citadel, Mathworks and Blackrock are auto-generated I think.

[wispy mason]

No full time work experience

They aren't even counting internship experience here

[obsidian crater]

Really though? I see WAY more postings asking for 2+ years than NG.

[fallen fox]

🪢

[wispy mason]

Really????

[wet jacinth]

+1

[wispy mason]

Same

[obsidian crater]

What I see is companies just want to take advantage of all the layoffs

[wispy mason]

😭

[wet jacinth]

hehe

[wispy mason]

Yesssss

[obsidian crater]

There are hella lowball offers now on indeed

I see some entry level stuff but it's paying even 40K

[wet jacinth]

and where are these supposed jobs that pay 40k? asking for a friend.

allegedlly

[obsidian crater]

Remote but I don't hear back from them

[arctic orchid]

indeed is also garbage

[obsidian crater]

for example my friend's company is only hiring SWE2 and above

zon is only hiring swe2 and above

it's funny my friend got laid off from meta

then he got hired again from meta

[arctic orchid]

metas a cluster fuck

[wet jacinth]

I got rejected by Meta. But they didn't hire me again.

[obsidian crater]

[wet jacinth]

Yes. Most Amazon interns were asked to return their offers.

[arctic orchid]

so should we jsut hold tight for august?

[wet jacinth]

I don't think we can do anything else. Been holding tight since May.

[arctic orchid]

more job postings then?

[sullen hull]

Meta recruiters be ghosting

Im pretty sure they are only hiring Senior level

[solemn spire]

imma get linkedin premium and start begging in recruiters inbox

[wet jacinth]

Already doing that. It's not working.

[sullen hull]

reaching out to recruiters is a must now

[arctic orchid]

What companies?

Have gotten back you?

[vital meteor]

is this a rhetorical question

[sullen hull]

None. Keep trying.

It says a lot about the market, reaching out to recruiters does as much as an app and referral. Same result.

[arctic orchid]

No…

[arctic orchid]

I’ve personally never had success with reaching out to recruiters

[hardy cypress]

Seems like a viable option but you lose like 30 dollars a month

Offer to wash the recruiters car

[kind tangle]

LinkedIn job scraper

[hidden scaffold]

Anyone that did the akuma c++ oa talk about there experience doing the assessment, were the questions pretty hard?

[autumn iris]

[pulsar mural]

STOP

[obsidian crater]

[solemn spire]

Crying as 2022

[rain patio]

If u pick an adjacent career make sure it’s not IT

IT will keep u trapped in there

[pine topaz]

stop the dooming

WE WILL MAKE IT

it is DO OR DIE

[rain patio]

nah deadass

[pulsar mural]

@elder forum

[rain patio]

SWE for Revature inbound

[pine topaz]

wow beautifulc at

what breed?

wow

norwegien forest cat?

wow

[bold pier]

happy to kill you

[swift falcon]

id rather die

i'll be a 50 yoe entry level software dev if I have to

[obsidian crater]

If I can't get a CSE job I'm going into econ/finance

[swift falcon]

CS is technically my career change

so fuck that

[bold pier]

Guys guys, finally after months of applying, interviewing, crying, dooming I am glad to say that I've decided to rope

[rain patio]

no rope

[narrow harbor]

maybe not swe specifically but anything software related where my cs is degree is actually useful

when i graduated i thought id be happy that im finallt gonna have a career that will help allow me to do the things i wanna do in life

but now i feel like i havent graduated yet and im a super senior, and i think my cs degree and my school journey will feel complete once i get a job

cause thats why i got a degree in the first place

im not gonna abandon mission because i worked so hard to get through school, and if i can get through school i can get a job

[autumn iris]

[wraith yew]

Anyone applied to mathworks?

[autumn iris]

just gitgud enough to get a job

[wraith yew]

I dont wanna do hirevue 😭

[autumn iris]

idk worst case i'll do a PhD in ML

[rain patio]

Bro I bombed the OA and didn’t look back

[autumn iris]

but i dont think its going to be that bad

yeah

i been doing research in total for like

a yr n half so far

[narrow harbor]

hows the workload compared to bachelor?

[autumn iris]

idk

[wraith yew]

Sadge

[autumn iris]

all my time goes into job related stuff

like if i really wanted to

i can coast my degree with like

10hrs/week

but im putting in like 50-60

[wraith yew]

Im not doing masters but I had a similar feeling with my undergrad

And thats exactly what I did

Minimize effort maximize grade 24/7

[autumn iris]

oh

i put in like no effort for grades

im just perma studying for interviews

its not that hard to get an A, we only get like

4 assignments the whole course

[wraith yew]

Exams?

[autumn iris]

barely get any

[wraith yew]

Mbn

[autumn iris]

a final thats worth 10%

[wraith yew]

So more like project based learning?

[autumn iris]

yeah

research+ 3 courses basically

[wraith yew]

Nicee

[autumn iris]

my final semester (aka in a month) is just

a data visual capstone, research, deep learning, and a stat course

[wraith yew]

U been grinding lc then?

[autumn iris]

uh AWS sht

then lc

[wraith yew]

Is that a cert?

Or just practice

[autumn iris]

cert

[wraith yew]

Ah

[autumn iris]

[wraith yew]

Im doing the google data analytics cert

[autumn iris]

[wraith yew]

I hope I never have to interview for a swe job

Lc is cancerous to me, I hate it with a passion

But I love working on projects

[autumn iris]

[vapid oasis]

I’ve been looking at so many ppl resume here for swe

Just makes me feel even more less qualified

To get an entry level job

[rain patio]

fuck all that it’s rng bro u got this

[wraith yew]

Wait what abt them

[autumn iris]

i feel like

i know how bad i have to be

to not get a job

[vapid oasis]

Oh that’s true too, but as someone who doesn’t even have one internship I’m kinda fucked

[wraith yew]

Wooah I didnt know that

[autumn iris]

[vapid oasis]

Same friend. Same. But we’re all in this together!!!

[wraith yew]

Its so hard waking up in the morning and having to play video games all day 😔

[vapid oasis]

Does anyone know if the market is recovering tho

[pine topaz]

i think so - look at the end

uptrend

[vapid oasis]

Prayers that the market recovers faster

[autumn iris]

right now, im just gunna assume

i'll get some sort of interview (whenever they start hiring)

just gitgud to answer every interview question

[shut thistle]

git gud

git add .

git commit -m "new grad 2024 offer"

git push

[bold pier]

git reset --HARD

[autumn iris]

[bold pier]

Always because of merge conflicts

[autumn iris]

[bold pier]

I just push the fuck up

Fuck up the ci pipeline also

Be ungovernable

[autumn iris]

but im sure

if ur putting in a sht ton of effort n trying

you'll be employed at some point

[rain patio]

Blind is so funny

There was a post of a dude who rejected a female candidate because he thought she was too pretty and would end up ruining his marriage

[autumn iris]

blind is just full of indian guys

[rain patio]

Craziest scenarios

Ye

blind is Indian 1pt3acres but shitty version

[obsidian crater]

blind has some insane people on it for sure

[bold pier]

Yeah, I hate blind people

Wait

No officer it's a misunderstanding

[shut thistle]

us intl dont have 1 year 🙂

[bold pier]

If I sacrifice a few intl students to USCIS will their unemployment days pass on to me?

[bold pier]

Unrelated question, where do you live?

[shut thistle]

SD

[bold pier]

No survival instincts

[shut thistle]

😦

are you intl?

[bold pier]

Yessss

[shut thistle]

wagmi

[hidden scaffold]

I am down

[autumn iris]

just do more school

[bold pier]

Is biden gonna forgive our loans too? :3

[autumn iris]

never

unless u get 20yr replayment plan then maybe

[supple grove]

haven’t check this server for a while. Just wondering if there are still a lot no offer 23ng like me🥲

[fossil jewel]

yo thats me x3

[swift falcon]

AM I BEING INSULTED?

[swift falcon]

must not be if this recruiter won't hire me/help me find a job

[marble ivy]

i was told in uni that there’s more cs jobs than ppl graduating in cs and it would be super easy to get a job

[raw plank]

back for my daily

we're all gonna make it

[swift falcon]

that's the part they left out

[raw plank]

capital one opened for august 2024

lol

you must be new here

I just want an SE job

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/pouting-pout-gif-5964968

[raw plank]

but honestly yea they pay 113k (nyc level so prob lower where im at) so I have 0 chance of getting in

[swift falcon]

I almost fell for the patterned AI scam this morning

smh

was like 'omg this position is just perfect for me'

[raw plank]

scam?

[swift falcon]

then I got sus'd out and searched it here and saw ppl were confused about it, then searched it on reddit and it looks like a resume data mining scam

[raw plank]

Figures

Since I started spam applying jobs I get random scam calls almost every day

[swift falcon]

people were saying that is what was happening to them

and they were getting the 'send us a check' scams

[rain patio]

Rly?

[raw plank]

I applied to a few patterned ai jobs, they could probably tell from my resume Im too broke rn to get scammed

[raw plank]

https://www.capitalonecareers.com/job/mclean/product-development-program-associate-2024/31238/51758609376

8 days late, its probably too late lol

[rain patio]

I thought SWE is Technology Development Program

[raw plank]

113k is high

[rain patio]

iirc c1 opens in July 31

[raw plank]

113k more than my current TC

📸

[fair zephyr]

not low but also not high if its in nyc

[swift falcon]

what if we created our own company

[raw plank]

You’re right

I got an email to apply to this cuz of CS degree tho

[rain patio]

It’s a PM role

It’s still worth

if ur into that stuff

[grizzled bronze]

That's not software, their software role is called TDP. Recruiter confirmed it opens sometime in September.

[raw plank]

yeah, my mistake

Haven’t applied yet

[grizzled bronze]

Has anyone heard from JPM CFG yet?

[rain patio]

Negative

[bold pier]

where's my job then :3

[fallen fox]

most hopeful 2023 grad

https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/159doiv/should_i_stop_my_failed_job_search_and_dedicate/

[pine topaz]

what a cruel world we live in

[rain patio]

That's why you don't watch porn kids

[winter arrow]

Only intern have gone out afaik. Guy who runs it told me we’d hear September (for Plano at least)

[arctic orchid]

those two words shouldn't be used in the same sentence

[dense stag]

we hear back for cfg that late? dang

whats this then

[pine topaz]

stop it

why r we on discord n reddit

durign work horus

[rain patio]

ong

[dense stag]

cuz no work atm

[pine topaz]

how about u get work

[dense stag]

manager on dnd

[fresh lagoon]

[wet jacinth]

Can dudes attend GHC?

[swift falcon]

what is GHC

[dense stag]

identify as woman

[rain patio]

Bro

Why did I get rejected by NVIDIA

am I on perma blacklist or something

4x reject

[blazing oar]

idk I’m just perma ghosted by Nvidia lol

[wet jacinth]

https://ghc.anitab.org/

[rain patio]

I’ve gotten reject by nvidia since freshman year 💀

[pine topaz]

ik i tink company just wan a PIP him

[shrewd juniper]

Would y'all work at a random no name company just for experience as a ng

[winter arrow]

cfg

[hidden scaffold]

Yes! What kind of question is that?

[pine topaz]

someone who has been taking every1s offers here

[hidden scaffold]

Do you not want money? Stop the clock?

[hidden scaffold]

More like havent got an offer to begin with

[dense stag]

money > no money

[rain patio]

Hell na

I’d rather do something local or it

[solemn kite]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3673994692/ - found an entry level role open, y'all

[fresh mango]

what does nvidia want

amd new grads

[raw plank]

would a random no name company hire a ng ?

[rain patio]

Maybe

[split plaza]

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/2259158/software-development-engineer-amazon-robotics-december-2022-grad-movement-control-coordination
might be relevant for some folks here

No idea just saw it on LinkedIn

[rain patio]

It was posted January 7 2023

[tardy geode]

💀

wtf

[rain patio]

On vacation

[mossy bobcat]

Anyone got data science business case technical interview tips?

I've never done a technical like this

[grizzled bronze]

With how fast Nvidia closed their app, that role was likely opened for an intern conversion

[rain patio]

No comment

[hidden scaffold]

How does one create a blind account when they have no work email?

[pine topaz]

where r u

[rain patio]

The O

https://tenor.com/view/kingvon-von-chiraq-oblock-gif-18750287

Oblox

[swift falcon]

Ogina

[delicate lantern]

Has anyone had any luck with applications/roles yet

I’m too depresso

And no espresso is left

[obsidian crater]

no

😭

[ivory stratus]

boiz

i finally made it

i finally got a job

[solemn kite]

congrats! where?

[ivory stratus]

local company here in Hawaii

im just so glad

so relieved

[signal jewel]

happy for you man! you made it

[ivory stratus]

tyty

lost so much hope this past year

[solemn kite]

let's goooooo

[fallen fox]

im out of hopium

veins full of ropium

[signal jewel]

you will be an inspiration to many in this server. dw

[ivory stratus]

bro i had amazon and microsoft final last recruiting season

both got canceled

i was so mad

[obsidian crater]

[ivory stratus]

pushed off grad

got an internship at Hawaiian Airlines

and ya boi finally made it

i believe in everyone

job market sucks still

it's freaking hard

[signal jewel]

[grizzled bronze]

Congrats!

[ivory stratus]

thanks fam 🥹

[rain patio]

Congrats man!

[fresh mango]

uscis working on interstellar time to approve EADs ffs

[obsidian crater]

lol I think they have a lot of mainframes and boomer tech

[unreal rampart]

Has anyone done a OA for @simplify and is it automatic ?

[shut thistle]

not auto fs

[unreal rampart]

What makes you say that

[shut thistle]

got rejected from a role

[unreal rampart]

Did you do their OA

I got one for the engineering trainee role

[shut thistle]

before OA,

[unreal rampart]

Ahhh

[shut thistle]

so that means, OA is not auto

[unreal rampart]

Sorry to hear that

[shut thistle]

gl

[unreal rampart]

Thank you

[rain patio]

Lord Bezos will descend from his yacht and open ng apps

[grizzled bronze]

August is gonna be lit

[pine topaz]

900K tc

[grizzled bronze]

[pine topaz]

https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs/278437235

[wet jacinth]

Congratulations buddy!

[errant karma]

Google is hiring for November 2024 fir position in Atlanta

[signal jewel]

damn nov 24?

[wet jacinth]

Do you mean Nov 23?

[dense swan]

link?

[split plaza]

Probably not SWE

https://www.google.com/about/careers/applications/jobs/results/116946461138002630-cloud-technical-resident-cloud-academy-early-career
referring to this maybe

[obsidian crater]

yeah it is that

my friend does that

[raw plank]

grats bro, when did you graduate?

and did u get that internship after or before

[ivory stratus]

graduated back in may this year

and got the internship during my last semester

[raw plank]

thanks

huge W bro

[ivory stratus]

wait are you actually at revature

[raw plank]

on the 31st im gonna start unpaid training lol

[ivory stratus]

daaaaaaang

[raw plank]

didn't actually commit yet tho

[ivory stratus]

for how long

it's like 12 weeks yeah?

[raw plank]

idk, just while I look for other jobs

[ivory stratus]

ah fair

[raw plank]

no, this is pretraning to the 12 week tranining

[ivory stratus]

daaaaaaang

i heard that it's really not terrible after the training

liek i heard they have connections with some good companies that pay well

[raw plank]

yea, its not so bad

[raw plank]

wat u mean

one in interviews tho

[marble ivy]

u accepted revature?

[raw plank]

It’s not an offer, they just give you access to some online course and it’s self paced , once you get through you get a chance to join the real training

No contract is signed, so I figured I might as well sign up if I don’t find anything else

Yeah it’s shit but can’t hurt

You’re right

[rain patio]

Baesed

[obsidian crater]

you gotta get a job there though

which is hard because there are barely any swe jobs

hmm I gotta get into loo

[grizzled bronze]

Just add an auto reject each time you apply, you only need to change it once you get an offer. Make it easy on yourself.

[wet jacinth]

that is actually a good idea

[obsidian crater]

just graduated

I don't think it's desperate

I think there's a huge oversupply right now

[wet jacinth]

okay, all of us here are just not talented I guess.

okay, sure!

[obsidian crater]

Idk what you're smoking

But I'd like some

[fallen fox]

just rope

[wet jacinth]

I did 900+ LC. How do I prove myself?

[fallen fox]

🪢

[obsidian crater]

yeah openAI people are top unis

yeah they are lol

lookup who works there

[wet jacinth]

Open AI hires from these schools

[grizzled bronze]

I know a person from Yahkunazon who got into OpenAI

[wet jacinth]

The world isn't as fair as you think it is.

[obsidian crater]

🪢

[obsidian crater]

@median thistle 👀

[fallen fox]

220k helena = millionaire

[obsidian crater]

What's wrong with Montana

Hannah Montana

Snow

Mountains

No homeless

[fallen fox]

ngl ideal place for social rejects like me

[fair zephyr]

i only care about money nothing else i could get hit by a car and be paralyzed neck down and ill be fine if i have money i love money i need money

[obsidian crater]

wrong major bro

should've gone into investment banking

highest TC job

yes

[fair zephyr]

im uc berk grad and got a mid job so yea

[obsidian crater]

I love money and I want to get an IB job if I can

[fair zephyr]

i could never pass open ai intvs

[obsidian crater]

I will sell my soul, hairline and non existent social life to Goldman Sachs

For TC + bonus

• you get free cocaine on the job

[fair zephyr]

yea thats what im doing

2 LC per day

reading 30 mins of sys design literature every day also

[obsidian crater]

C is easy

I eat C for breakfast

[fair zephyr]

and in 6 months time ill try for 170k jobs

and ill achieve it cuz im literally a genuis goat insane monster lord

buth

bruh

[obsidian crater]

lmao

Amazon guy calling himself mediocre

That's like being upset for getting into Harvard instead of MIT

[fair zephyr]

tbf

amazon lowkey sucks

[obsidian crater]

yeah but it's a respected name and it's still a FAANG

So maybe it's more like Dartmouth

Or UPenn

[fair zephyr]

im at expedia and i wouldnt take amazon over it tbh any other big tech yea

who am i kidding i would 100% take amazon

im jsut lying

[obsidian crater]

Heh

My friend worked at IAM

[fair zephyr]

humans are adaptive creatures

[obsidian crater]

He said he lost his hairline from all the stress

[signal jewel]

bro careful bout what u say

[obsidian crater]

IAM and EC2 have ass WLB

[fair zephyr]

was joke ofc

[rain patio]

Ain’t worth it atp 😭

[obsidian crater]

Nah with Amazon TC you can get hair transplant

Like Musk

[fair zephyr]

canada amazon TC also good

no shot

what is it

[obsidian crater]

Not enough to buy a shack in Vancouver

[fair zephyr]

where in canada?

col is lower tho

except dont u get hella taxed

[obsidian crater]

nah you can't buy anything in major areas in Canada

average home price is like 1.5 mill in Toronto/Vancouver

yeah even condos are 900K

That's Montreal though

[pine topaz]

1 bedroom for 600k

[obsidian crater]

Can you voulez vous coucher avoic moi?

[fair zephyr]

r u new grad or have yoe

[pine topaz]

what if u have a spouse later

[obsidian crater]

cad isn't paper money

you want to get paid in rupees?

[pine topaz]

need to dump 1.2mil on a 2 bedroom condo

[obsidian crater]

I used to do that lol

It's not bad until you fight

[fair zephyr]

wait why r u alrdy planning to hop out of amazon

[pine topaz]

do u guys have individual work places?

like for ur dekstop

ahh in the living room?

den share the bedroom

i seee

[obsidian crater]

join the mandem

[pine topaz]

thats nice

[obsidian crater]

yes

[raw plank]

Ur at Amazon?

[obsidian crater]

My friend works at budget amazon

[raw plank]

Mfw someone is finally being positive in this chat and u find out they’re an employed mf

[fair zephyr]

lol im at an backend infra team and all we use is aws lol

[obsidian crater]

he said his wlb is good but manager is cruel

[raw plank]

Lol

[obsidian crater]

You have me too

[raw plank]

All gonna make it

[obsidian crater]

X Æ A-12

I have one

No job

🪢

They lied to me

SA

[rain patio]

I have SAA still no jobs 😭

[obsidian crater]

LinkedIn, Indeed, Glassdoor, Recruiter begging

Asking for referrals

[rain patio]

Referral if I like the company otherwise apply like normal

[obsidian crater]

Nothing

[signal jewel]

waiting for someone to say "have job but no cert"

[obsidian crater]

Probably like 800+ apps

[rain patio]

Should i write AWS or Amazon Web Services 😭

[fair zephyr]

lol start date when?

valid

[signal jewel]

AWS should wrk ig

[pine topaz]

shes not coming to canada tho?

r u going to the US?

have fun

[rain patio]

But Amazon web services hits the AWS + Amazon keywords yk

2 for 1

holy shit this is desperation just give me rope

[signal jewel]

amazon doesnt mean anything unless you worked/work there

[obsidian crater]

DN

Idk bro

Half the people tell me to put it at the top

[rain patio]

I’ve heard both ways for skills

[obsidian crater]

The other half bottom

I don't think it really matters to ATS

I don't really have exp to have a resume cracked like @elder forum

what

not they don't

[pine topaz]

are you international @obsidian crater

[obsidian crater]

[rain patio]

I doubt the skills thing at top or bottom is a dealbreaker tho

[fair zephyr]

fam your resume is better than mine