2023_grads

[signal jewel]

bruhh.. i saw that post she put thiss mrng. lmao

[hoary fern]

maybe i should do that

[native mango]

https://topmate.io/anjali_viramgama

[hoary fern]

100$ / call

[native mango]

I know right!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much for the struggle

[rain patio]

LinkedIn influencers are crazy

I always wonder if I end up being a corporate shill after getting a job

[signal jewel]

Swe at FAANG. keep that post along with 2 to 3 other post. bang you get views and many more

lol

[native mango]

I know right!!! What even. She just did undergrad here! And she might be affluent enough to do the undergrad in US means she is also a citizen or something because H1B folks can't earn money other than their job

[raw plank]

that linkedin is rope fuel

[native mango]

Yes

[rain patio]

I unfollowed all LinkedIn recruiters who have like 10’s of thousands of followers

[native mango]

I mean what even $100 for a call

[rain patio]

Can’t stand reading the dumb shit they post everyday

[raw plank]

even if i rope ppl like that will still get paid for career advice and have great lives

[native mango]

Lol

Don't rope bro

-_-

Lol

xD

For them atealst

It;s not useful

[raw plank]

yea ik

[native mango]

They are useless

These linkedin influencers

Posting shit

[hoary fern]

u could lie about ur credentials

ez

[native mango]

I bought home at 27 age got car at 25 age

and shit

Bullshit

No loan obviously you can buy shit

No struggle for them

-_-

[fallen fox]

this linkedin is rope fuel for a jobless it help desk shitter like me

[native mango]

Lol

Yes

we all hate such influencers right now

So much shit around

Spreading shit in the name of positivity

[fallen fox]

i dont hate them

just makes me feel like a shitter

gives me more lc fuel

[hoary fern]

no hate only love guys

❤️❤️❤️

[native mango]

good for you

Gives me more rope fuel tbh

They all

Are toxix

Atleast when I am jobless

If I get job it's fine

[fallen fox]

when did you graduate?

[native mango]

This year only

you?

[fallen fox]

[native mango]

Lol

[fallen fox]

december 2022

[native mango]

Ohhh

😦

I feel you bro

😦

No worries

[high owl]

Ewwwww

What in the Kentucky fried fuck is this

[broken sonnet]

Does anyone know what questions do they ask in a recruiter call at TikTok?

[high owl]

Dam I wonder what those mentorship calls do

[native mango]

Just pass around an hour and take your moeny

[high owl]

Beautiful. Exactly what I want. Sign me up

[native mango]

How did you get recruiter call?

[native mango]

Hahahahhahaha

[high owl]

If it’s a recruiter call prob just behavioral. No technical

So just typical “tell me about urself”, “why TikTok”, etc.

[native mango]

I don't want their fucking advice. no struggle no success story

[high owl]

I’m p sure we already know what we need to do

They can’t tell us anything new

[native mango]

Trueeee

[high owl]

Except. “Keep going, it’s difficult now, but you’ll make it”

[broken sonnet]

Reached out to them on Linkedin

[high owl]

“Treat yourself, take breaks”

[broken sonnet]

Thnx. Any idea about their interview process?

[high owl]

Sheeesh. I need to start cold emailing and dming

[high owl]

It usually starts with an OA, then prob a technical

And then either a superday or final round

[signal jewel]

i feel like. cold emailing doesnt work for me at all

[high owl]

If def has a low response rate.

But it helped me get some interviews

[signal jewel]

nooo... its all luck

[high owl]

Yeah

It is luck.

[signal jewel]

you put the same template to every person and company or do you change accordingly?

[high owl]

I put the exact same template

The only things I change are the name of the person I’m emailing

[signal jewel]

lol. then yeah it is luck 🥲

[high owl]

But hey, sometimes you get lucky. Just keep spamming them

Eventually one will reach out

[signal jewel]

make sure to not get blacklisted

[high owl]

Oh true

[signal jewel]

telling from my experience 💀

[high owl]

Wait what-

👁‍🗨

Tea?

[signal jewel]

wdym tea?

[rain patio]

Where u get blacklisted from

[fresh mango]

So u ask them for a specific role or just in general about open positions for ur exp?

[native mango]

Same questions

[high owl]

What happened :(((?

[native mango]

^

[high owl]

Both

[fresh mango]

My LinkedIn looks like a desp creep at this point with all these cold messages and no replies 😂😂😂

[high owl]

I ask sth along the lines of “I saw a posting and think I’m a great fit, here’s my resume lmk what you think.”

[high owl]

Wait deadass me as well

It do be tough out here

[rain patio]

Imma make chatgpt write me a template

[signal jewel]

recruiter reached out to me and said you mailed lot many people. and now cyber security team considers your email address as some issue. so you have been blacklisted. but then yeah he was like ill manage it dw and will get back to you if any manager likes your profile. he showed some pity because of this job market. lmao 💀

[fresh mango]

That’s the grind I wanna be on

[high owl]

LMAOOO

Honestly respect bro.

[fresh mango]

Only respect for the hard work to actually force a reply not gonna lie

[signal jewel]

you message them in linkedin. who tf gives a shit in linkedin bruh? is it a thing?

[high owl]

It sometimes works :’((((

[signal jewel]

this is what my emails are like

[fresh mango]

Yeah you just hope one of the positivity merchants reply

[high owl]

Poggg

[rain patio]

are you guys sending in mails or connect messages

I need to restrategize

[fresh mango]

“We knows it’s tough out there but never give up like the kid at the coffee shop who asked thrice to not get ice in his water without being afraid”

[fresh mango]

Tried both tbh, nothing, next is emails using hunter.io

[signal jewel]

cold email still works tbh. i got an interview and few other people atleast get back to you. my friend got 2 offers with cold email. but yeahh it is tiring. and should make sure to not get black listed

[high owl]

And don’t email those recruiters who post on the daily

[fresh mango]

You get emails from hunter or sm other day?

[signal jewel]

one thing we can do here is... apply with one email and cold mail with other

[fresh mango]

Yeah they attract way too much attention

[high owl]

Oh trueee

[signal jewel]

you can many extensions for this

[fresh mango]

It’s the ones with like 3 comments who are more likely to reply

[high owl]

Hunter.io is so nice

[signal jewel]

yeahhh

[high owl]

Usually you can find a pattern to how the emails look like. And just guess for other people

[fresh mango]

Was absolutely planning to spend 3-4 days automating the cold messaging process so it spams out to 5 people in a company where there is a role, and writes “unsubscribe” in the bottom if they wanna opt out 😭😂

[high owl]

LOL. Nice side project idea?

[signal jewel]

exactly. one amazon recruiter literally put their email to send resume for sde roles. she doesnt even respond 😭

[fresh mango]

It’s the next step for simplify

[high owl]

Oh yea. Now that’ll be epic

[high owl]

Ewwwwwwww

[signal jewel]

never include this in resume

[high owl]

[fresh mango]

built a full stack recruiter message spamming application

[signal jewel]

💀 💀 instant reject

[fresh mango]

Workday might love it

Since they have mastered the art of torture

[signal jewel]

but seriously. sounds a really fun project

spamming recruiters. somehow feels nice

[fresh mango]

They’ll feel the heat when they login to their work emails😭😂😂

[high owl]

Yielded an incredible 69% response rate.

[fallen fox]

im spamming an internal recruiter rn

mfer keeps ignroing me

imma call him

[fresh mango]

Send him physical mail

[fallen fox]

applied to a swe role last friday

still hasn't gotten back to me

[high owl]

Show up to his office cubicle

[fresh mango]

Envelope that resume and get it to their front door

If linked doesn’t work, usps it is

[signal jewel]

bruh dont spam 😭

[fallen fox]

apparently you're guaranteed to get a HM call if you're an internal candidate

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[signal jewel]

one recruiter emailed me last week to schedule an interview. ghosted me after replying to that mail. this is so trashhhh

[signal jewel]

intern to fte?

[fallen fox]

IT full time > swe

[signal jewel]

OMG. sheeshh

[high owl]

Wtf. That’s fked up

And recruiters complain that candidates ghost them.

[signal jewel]

wait what -
who tf ghosts recruiters 💀

[high owl]

Ppl that have multiple offers I guess

[raw plank]

I used to ignore recruiters on linkedin cuz I thought they were all scams why would a legit company reach out to me

[signal jewel]

bro. this sounds cool actually. but very wrong lol. btw what companies 🥹

[signal jewel]

[high owl]

Sheeeesh

[signal jewel]

they reached out to you?

[fresh mango]

Crazy, you have how many yoe if u don’t mind me asking

[signal jewel]

[fresh mango]

Daaaamn

[signal jewel]

@elder forum how to make recruiters reach out to you

[raw plank]

You think putting "software engineer at Microsoft" or smth as your linkedin bio will get recruiters attention? lol

and then you change it back once you land an interview

[signal jewel]

my 1 yoe is dead ig. i dont even get calls after applying also

[high owl]

Now this is an idea

[swift falcon]

we are ngmi

https://tenor.com/view/you-get-a-kid-and-you-get-a-kid-gif-24066667

you get a rope

and you and you and you and you

[wet jacinth]

Hodl from roping guys. Good days will come.

[swift falcon]

when are tiktok career influencers going to start saying CS is no longer a good career

they’re still shilling it as a high demand degree

[rain patio]

Bc morons pay for their courses or mentorship

the cycle never ends

[swift falcon]

whats gonna happen in 3-5 yearsbwhen ppl need senior devs

when we’re all just still entry level

im gonna start applying to lead and senior roles

im tired of this shit

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shot-gif-10358343

[south sable]

anyone do leetcode in JS?

I need pointers quick for a test

[raw plank]

they will hire the ppl who have jobs now

lots of people are working

[bold pier]

Yeah, all the people who got rng jobs

[raw plank]

no its skill stop dooming

[fallen fox]

no interviews almost 50 days

https://tenor.com/view/feels-rain-man-pepe-rain-gif-13413103

[bold pier]

No skill, only rng

[obsidian crater]

you guys

come home depot with me

[bold pier]

how dare you assume my gender

[obsidian crater]

ok women

idgaf about your gender

[bold pier]

I am an object

[swift falcon]

if we have experienced dev shortage now, it’ll be way worse when none of us are experienced tho

[raw plank]

my friends and all the other ppl working are becoming experienced devs as we speak

already act like they are too

[native mango]

Ohh

You can be better at LC

I bet they will require LC when they switch

And when it will rain with the positions in the market

You will be the one clearing all the interviews not them

Hehehe

[bold pier]

hehehehe

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[bold pier]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-not-hehe-gif-23710013

[native mango]

Hehehhe

I am angry on everyone of my friends and every person having job lol

😛

I asked my friend to check on her portal for the job

I gave her the link for the job

[fallen fox]

i am not angry at anyone

[native mango]

Told her to check and refer

Instead she didn't focus on that

[fallen fox]

just reflecting on whatever bullshit i did to end up in a situation like this

[swift falcon]

its over for the little guy

[grizzled bronze]

That's a wrong attitude to have, shouldn't be taking out the frustration of the market on your friends. All my friends have jobs and I'm glad they're doing well.

[native mango]

Was chilling and all going out

[native mango]

Yeah so much for kindness and empathy I have given

Can't just refer me

[swift falcon]

I have no friends

[native mango]

actively

__

I gave her resume also once

And then I asked her to refer

Did not even focus on that

So busy with enjoying

[raw plank]

dont worry, bro just graduated. eventually the anger will start to go inward

[native mango]

Yes

Lol

I am angry on them lol they are not good friends

[grizzled bronze]

Things come up, you should follow up

[native mango]

Fakestersss

[native mango]

So much things I can see on snapchat. Enjoying in restaurants and having fun. Good

Can't actively help me ehhh

[bold pier]

May I suggest instead of being angry, be annoying, be annoying as fuck

[native mango]

Same as linkedin unknown people

[bold pier]

ask for referrals

[native mango]

why are they friends then?

Same as random strangers nice

[high owl]

Sadly there are ppl that will fail, meet, and exceed our expectations. Just do what you can bro. If that friend is taking 3948584 years to refer, prob best not to invest any more energy into it.

[native mango]

Fucking fucksrets

Yes

[grizzled bronze]

Your friends don't seem the issue from that, sounds like you have jealousy issues

[swift falcon]

should I follow up a week after following up 2 weeks after I was told the hiring manager was going on leave and to be patient?

[high owl]

I agree. Them having fun shouldn’t be viewed as bad. You can be bitter about it but yeah don’t get super worked up about it.

[native mango]

Wow. Lol. If you ask for a favor and person is not willing to help you being a friend. I won;t call them friend.

[swift falcon]

ive been ghosted by this recruiter before and I don’t know if I can take it again

[raw plank]

its not us its them

[high owl]

Well. I’d like to say sometimes ppl can’t always do you favors

As simple as the favor may be

[swift falcon]

perhaps I should reach out to some of the people that work in my city?

[native mango]

Yes right

[swift falcon]

instead of pune india

[high owl]

It’s just how it be sadly

[native mango]

Ikr. But it's just sad. Isn't it?

[vital meteor]

Fr this place changed alot since the good days so much animosity now

[obsidian crater]

[high owl]

It’s sad. But what can ya do. Can’t really force em to help you

[native mango]

Yes

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-the-frog-sad-crying-gif-16026853

depression

[native mango]

AS the time goes everything will be better

I was positive 3 days ago

Another incident happened and it was max

It will take few days to let things process

[bold pier]

bad times make people grumpy

[native mango]

No, I am not feeling that for everyone. There are good ones and then there are fake ones

[native mango]

Yes, in past I was all like positivity , good vibes and all kind and really empathetic person. Deep down I am that still but I am really hurt

This is my other version

😦

And then there are people we can see are really empathizing with you.

Others are just busy with their things and they will share their tiny problems with you

And I was like consoling and stuff

Why should I waste my mental energy on them

I will not!

It;s of no use

I give my precious time listening to them and all being counsellor

no one to be there to listen to me

😦

Why shoudl I empathize with them. I will not.

[ebon moat]

Howd the interview go @swift falcon

[native mango]

They be like Oh brooo, I need to move to different house 100 steps away. I am stressed all the packing and stuff. I don't want to console or help in that case.

Such minute things

I don't have money to pay the rent

I have bigger problems then that

😦

Not all of you will be able to relate to this because you might not have such people around you

These people won't ask me how am i feeling

Won't tell me few kind words

I have always been that kind and consoling and empathizing person.

They would come and share their problems and issues and also curse another friends in front of me

And then I will not spread any word and just keep the secret

Now they all are good friends

Wow.

Only because my time is not good

Nice

Sweet

[vital meteor]

This mindgeek take home project is a pain in the ass

[high owl]

[obsidian crater]

Canadian eh

[smoky spade]

hey guys, looking for some advice; im graduating in december and i havent had a single internship yet (based in quebec, canada). im trying to delay my graduation by getting an internship for the fall, but it seems like theres a severe lack of jobs to apply for (indeed, linkedin, google job board all have the same 10 jobs). am i doing something wrong? or is it too late to get something in the fall, and i should just look for new grad jobs? if so, how do you guys find new grad jobs? i'm also struggling with the search on job boards

would greatly appreciate any help

[obsidian crater]

there are no new grad jobs

[smoky spade]

wym

[high owl]

Gotta wait a few months for all of them to be open

[smoky spade]

even if im trying to get smth for january?

[obsidian crater]

yeah

[native mango]

Are you international student?

[smoky spade]

ah okay, that makes me feel a little better at least

yeah, got cucked by covid at the start of uni and then layoffs... still discouraging because all my friends managed to get internships though

not me though

[vital meteor]

I'm canadian citizen

[smoky spade]

not sure what the best move is at this point, esp if i cant get anything for the fall

[fallen fox]

idk what the job situation is like in canada

but if you're in the us, no internships + new grad = rope

[native mango]

Lol

[fallen fox]

if you're international = rope

[native mango]

Not everyone will be able to relate to International students

with loans

[vital meteor]

You can try to do both, look for internship and ft

[smoky spade]

if i had to guess the situation in canada is probably worse than the US

i imagine theres more jobs in the US than canada...

kinda feels like i made the wrong decision trying to get into cs

[smoky spade]

might be the move tbh

[swift falcon]

waste of time

recrooters lying and jebaiting

etc.

[native mango]

Loool

International people with loans : Raise your hand please

[swift falcon]

new plan for fulfilling high paying career

[stone latch]

Is optiver OA auto?

[ebon moat]

😭

[rain patio]

They make it sound like it’s not auto

[stone latch]

Yeah, made me feel like I cleared the initial screening 😂

[native mango]

Yess. I don't know. I just want to say I was a good and kind person from the start but it didn;t pay me anything.

[native mango]

You just need to focus on yourself first that is it

[swift falcon]

nice copy and paste lol

[native mango]

Lol

🙂

Deep inside I am not a bitter person but circumstances.

You help people being in bad state yourself

Compromise few things

They won't even thank you

[vital meteor]

No internships at all? I recc maybe working on a personal project then

[smoky spade]

none at all but i work at apple in the genius bar

thought it'd help, it didnt

i have a few personal projects

somewhat large scale ios app and a full webgame

the ios app is mostly just react native and firebase

the web game is a full backend in java and frontend in javascript

ye im looking for new things to work on as well

i made a personal website to show off my projects and now im trying to learn some ai/ml to work on another project to slap on my resume

alongside my school ones that are alr on there

[vital meteor]

Hmm sounds good, only other thing will be trying to get referrals when positions open up, Goodluck fellow Canadian

[smoky spade]

networking events are dry here in mtl unfortunately:(

hopefully ill meet people on here that'll help out w/ referrals 😅

its a tragic job market dude

[hoary fern]

maybe theyre all in french

[raw plank]

We need our snickers

[smoky spade]

i speak french too, but even those are dry

[hoary fern]

oh nooooo

[smoky spade]

yeah, i mean i wont give up on it

gotta keep trying till something comes up, right?

just wish it didnt have to be like this lol

[hoary fern]

indeed thats all u can do

[raw plank]

What role was this for?

[vital meteor]

Isn't mindgeek in Montreal

[autumn jolt]

Developer role

[smoky spade]

havent seen any job postings for mindgeek on linkedin/indeed

actually guys serious question how do you guys search for jobs to apply for

[rain patio]

When did you apply?

[smoky spade]

ive always had this nagging feeling i might be retarded

cause slapping "software developer intern" into linkedin or indeed has always generated the same 10 jobs, never anything else

[rain patio]

LinkedIn, Handshake, Internal Job boards from uni, here,

[autumn jolt]

Prob May or June

[rain patio]

Play w/ the filter + setup alerts

[raw plank]

Was it marked as entry level

say no

[autumn iris]

[autumn jolt]

Ehhh

[smoky spade]

got it, thanks boss

[rain patio]

Also the repo + alerts for pr’s and stuff

[smoky spade]

? which repo

[rain patio]

new grad 2024 one

By Realvail

[smoky spade]

ahh okay, thanks man

[autumn jolt]

Why though? Upcoming interview?

[raw plank]

got a response for a pre screen for entry level dev

can I dm you?

[smoky spade]

got it, checking it out now

thanks chief

[autumn jolt]

Sure!

[smoky spade]

actually quick question for you guys, should i bother applying for new grad jobs located in the US if i dont have a work visa

just took a quick glance at the newgrad repo and theres a lot that are only in the US

[rain patio]

if they offer sponsorship then yes

otherwise you will probably get autorejected

[smoky spade]

okay

[rain patio]

but if it’s vague I’d give it a shot or ask a recruiter

[smoky spade]

bet

ill try my best

thanks for the help

[rain patio]

np

[narrow harbor]

has anyone had any success submitting applications through Indeed?

I'll try to go the company's website and apply directly but sometimes the position isn't there anymore etc

[rain patio]

indeed is kinda sketch, I’ll look for jobs there and apply at the site

Indeed job boards are usually hella outdated

[shut thistle]

true. idk why indeed has not yet filed bankruptcy

[swift falcon]

actually got my current job with indeed posting 6 years ago iirc

[cloud zinc]

Indeed is way better at presenting job results than linkedin. Not only does it attempt to filter jobs by work experience (some hiccups here and there), but if there are no jobs that relate to what you're looking for, it will present an empty list instead of a list of nonsense jobs like LinkedIn

[grizzled bronze]

I should be hearing back about JPMC Code For Good by next week

[wispy mason]

Are you guys who graduated before Dec 2023 apply to roles that require graduation after Dec 2023?

[hidden scaffold]

Yes, its pointless

Always an insta reject, plus those applications almost always make you answer if you graduated before the graduation date in the requirements

Well thats not technically true

Most new 2024 grads roles allow 2023 spring grads to apply

A lot of them even allow 2022 fall grads apply, wym

[narrow harbor]

some do some don't, just gotta check the grad requirements

[marble ivy]

i thought u were employed 🧐

[hidden scaffold]

Heres one i just found after a quick look

https://boards.greenhouse.io/perpay/jobs/4034578007

[marble ivy]

Most of them don’t, this is an exception

[hidden scaffold]

Fair, though vast majority of new grad roles havent been opened up yet. And from what I hear, a lot of companies(i.e faang) allow a 1 year buffer period

[vital meteor]

There's early career that only cares about <1 yoe

[hidden scaffold]

Yeah that too though i feel like those give a preference to folks with some experience over complete none

[autumn iris]

[swift falcon]

[autumn iris]

its only been 2 months

[obsidian crater]

yeah

[autumn iris]

pretty sure hiring should start picking up late august/september

[swift falcon]

nah we’re fucked

[autumn iris]

[swift falcon]

we’re going to be the forgotton ones 😭

[autumn iris]

gitgud

[swift falcon]

I am gud alr

[autumn iris]

get better

aren't some people already getting OAs anyways

at least someones getting hired

[swift falcon]

!remindme 2 months

[autumn iris]

AWS practice exams are so time consuming

3hrs per exam, and prob taking me like

5-6hrs to review it afterwards

yeah

thats a question

u get 75 of those

some questions are multi-answers

pretty hard

pretty sure they reported only 15% pass the exam

[rain patio]

is that SA pro?

how hard is SA associate if anyone has taken it?

I’m getting shit on by these prac exams

I’m like hella inconsistent

really?

[autumn iris]

Dev ops engineer

[rain patio]

2021 😔

[autumn iris]

just google aws associates exam

theres an event going on right now

https://pages.awscloud.com/GLOBAL-ln-GC-Traincert-Associate-Certification-Challenge-Registration-2023.html?sc_channel=ha&sc_icampaign=aware_global_200_certification_associatechallenge_midpage_new_B_tnc&sc_ichannel=ha&sc_icontent=awssm-1919_tnc_aware&sc_iplace=banner&trk=fa780706-4cff-4368-9293-07606670a367~ha_awssm-1919_tnc_aware

[rain patio]

Ty

[autumn iris]

[rain patio]

Oh boy

[autumn iris]

the markets bad guys, if this guy can't get a job, then we all cant

[rain patio]

59 lc ngmi

[autumn iris]

[vapid marlin]

honestly that's crazy for a college how do u grad with just connect4 as a project

[solemn kite]

6/72 barely registers in my mind as a date

shit just looks like a fraction lmao

[grizzled bronze]

yeah, William Henry Gates III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

[swift falcon]

5’10” 130lbs lol

im gonna add my height/weight to resume now

[raw plank]

130 is light for 5'10"

I could fold bill gates

[pine topaz]

130lb is anorexic height at 510

hes rich because he dosent eat avocado tast

[rain patio]

damn

I’m 130 6’0

[narrow harbor]

bullets points need to follow xyz format

spacing is all wrong

dont need your height and weight in there

honestly just throw our your resume it's all wrong and get Jakes

[rain patio]

skipping meals + bad nutrition

Once I get a job I will fix

At the rainforest rn and these frugal mfs don’t give us bananas 😭

Can’t take ppl who speak in LP’s seriously

[tardy geode]

even this will get resume rejected in this ass market

i am stuck in the matrix of rejections

[whole berry]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-punpun-oyasumi-punpun-punpun-onodera-lico-licocore-gif-23014250

https://tenor.com/view/sudicid-depressed-gif-14302694

[marble ivy]

But 2022 isnt in that one year buffer, its 2023

[hidden scaffold]

Damn that sucks for 2022 grads and back. I need to really capitalize on that one year buffer before i fall off of it as well

[rain patio]

i mean ryan garcia is 135 and 5'10 and he has an aethetic physique

[pine topaz]

what about u? mind showing me urs?

[rain patio]

your eyes should be on yahkuna!!!

[obsidian crater]

yahkuna benches 315 no arch close grip

he's scary

[shut thistle]

amex emp are built different

[civic rock]

I got the same email for Java developer, its been 2 weeks no one called me yet or emailed to reach out to me. The application still says under recruiter review or something

[bold pier]

Never heard back till now, someone said they can take months to actually follow up

[solemn spire]

What am I doing with my life

[fallen fox]

🫡

[loud sluice]

This might be asked a lot here, but when should someone graduating after this fall semester start applying to jobs, is it now? and when applying, when it asks if you've graduated should i be saying yes?

[civic rock]

Dont lie on applications

Instead write in a cover letter that you will be graduating in X months

I would like to add that when they short listed me 2 weeks ago, I went back to see the posting. the posting was for people with 7+ years of exp and somehow I got short listed as a new grad? So I think its a mistake

[autumn jolt]

Same. Yoe for the roles they have shortlisted me requires 10+. I am not very much hopeful

[autumn jolt]

Or maybe they've updated their JD. Because I don't recall seeing this kind of experience requirements earlier else I would not have applied lol

[civic rock]

Same

Jackasses

[cloud zinc]

Got rejected from PCC. Not even mad because this new team I interviewed with wanted someone who knows ruby on rails

I'm glad they were extremely accomodating with my situation. Would love to reapply with them in the future

[tardy geode]

[grizzled bronze]

Then why'd they even interview you if ROR wasn't in your resume

[cloud zinc]

Ikr

Though to be fair, the position required experience in EITHER ror, php or django.

It just so happens that this new team exclusively works with ror

I've seen the tool during one of my club project activities, and I immediately backed out of it.

[civic rock]

were you given an assessment?

[cloud zinc]

Kind of. It wasn't a virtual code challenge, but it was a verbal sql problem wher I had to explain how to turn a schema into tables and how to query into said tables

[bold pier]

Guys

I got this email from a startup founder

Thanks for making time to complete the questionnaire for the opening at XXX . Your response indicated clarity in thought.

Would you like to get together at our Some address nearby to learn more about each other?

But afaik I never filled out any questionnaire for this company. Should I still go? It's a WeWork office and the person looks real

[high owl]

Don’t get abducted :((((

[rain patio]

Bro got startup rizz

[bold pier]

Can I file abdunction as employment days to USCIS?

[obsidian crater]

Meet in a public spot

[high owl]

[bold pier]

It's a WeWork office, wouldn't that be public enough?

[obsidian crater]

don't die

just saying

[bold pier]

it's better than a jobless living

[high owl]

Never filled sth out but they say you did? Might be a lil bit sussy

[obsidian crater]

yes

[grizzled bronze]

If you didn't complete anything I'd be wary

do your research on the company and this person

[bold pier]

lmao I just checked, the company has $170K in total funding, they probably scouting for people who will work for free

[swift falcon]

send them my way

[bold pier]

you gotta move to midtown Manhattan

[swift falcon]

nvm

[bold pier]

you know what, I'll go anyway. will at least get some nice pics for my instagram

[swift falcon]

I think that's a good attitude tbh

maybe you can split the salary or sth

[vagrant rain]

Anyone have experience working with a Gen AI startup I could talk to a bit?

[swift falcon]

or the 170 in funding is like 120k for a dev and then 50k for whatever other costs

[bold pier]

The office is in costliest NYC neighborhood and have 2 employees, pretty sure all the money is already gone

[swift falcon]

oh they have an office

[bold pier]

WeWork I mean, that still costs money I guess

[swift falcon]

weird

[bold pier]

But I like your wishful thinking

[cursive veldt]

Anyone got Optiver ng swe OA, Does Optiver provide sponsorship?

[native mango]

Everyone will get a job in coming months

https://tenor.com/view/dace-gif-25608746

Keep up with the grind!

Yes, it is difficult but I think it's fine not to compare. Yesterday I was bitter but today I am positive.

I was comparing with my friends.

Suppose it is a game, not everyone start with same things, people have different starting benefits.

Few had no loans because their brother/sister was here first. They knew everything before coming to US.

They had support and could invest time totally in job hunt.

Just focus on what you value more and keep doing what is in your hand!

❤️

the Not everyone is same!!! You might be struggling right now, but may be you end up really nicely. And you don't know about future of others. Everyone deals with some or other things.

Keep progressing! Keep becoming better everyday.

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-double-thumbs-up-like-agreed-yup-gif-11663223

[ornate cliff]

where you from mate

[raw plank]

Bro went through an entire redemption arc overnight

We’re all gonna make it

[native mango]

Yessss

Hehehhe

😄

Yesterday I was bitter and comparing with everyone cursing all lol

Today I am buddha xD

[rain patio]

im so tired this job grind already 💀

[pine topaz]

Doomer to bloomer

[native mango]

https://tenor.com/view/tenor-gif-25707820

😄

[fresh mango]

How long does it take to actually recieve the case decision from uscis, portal shows step 3 but no time limit on it?

[hidden scaffold]

I just did today, I am a us citizen tho

[autumn jolt]

'would you like to invest in our company and become a partner' or 'double your investments here'

[high owl]

Bro got the wholesome ending

[cursive veldt]

China bro

[bold pier]

Is EY hiring? I got someone to refer me there :3

[bold pier]

but their referral doesn't have any position, I just gave consent

[cursive veldt]

Is that hard? 3 hours and 30 minutes OA is a such nightmare

[hoary fern]

git gud

jk thats p wild shit tho

ppl already lying on resume making up numbers tho for impact

[hardy cypress]

Resume liars to honest appliers

[obsidian crater]

lol if I can't get a full time job by october I'm roping

idgaf at this point

[hoary fern]

dont let the capitalist overlords take control of your life

[obsidian crater]

meh being NEET is miserable

[fallen fox]

any ropers

[obsidian crater]

yes

[fallen fox]

[solemn kite]

Genuinely the funniest thing ive seen on discord. I laughed out loud

[hoary fern]

ilove neeting

[cloud zinc]

I'd only rope if I am physically incapable of getting a job. As long as there are jobs out there, I'm applying

[fallen fox]

december 2022 ngmi

just rope

[raw plank]

I’m honestly inspired bro huge W

[solemn kite]

Honestly

[raw plank]

Had to scroll up cuz he changed his name too, complete transformation

[solemn kite]

Gimme some of those drugs youre on @native mango

[cloud zinc]

Getting a job and living off my own money is super important for my development in life. I'm not going to give up

[fallen fox]

ropium

[raw plank]

Not today

[solemn kite]

Yeah! Yesterday i was actually gonna tag the "other" guy and be like you two should be friends. You're complaining about the same stuff. And then i realized.

[solemn kite]

Yeah when @native mango is happy, everyone in the server has to be happy

Thems the rules

[pine topaz]

hard times create strong people

never rope

we are all gonna make it

no more doom posting

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[raw plank]

Finally got an email with schedule interview in the subject line today

[high owl]

SHEEESH

pop off king

[raw plank]

But it was still reject when I read it

[high owl]

What

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-the-sun-will-shine-on-us-dont-lose-hope-gif-13801988

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-avengers-gif-20036370

[raw plank]

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-are-you-sure-fun-captain-america-gif-15688604

[fallen fox]

Thank you for your application to FireMon. We ended up moving forward with another candidate, but we’d like to thank you for giving us the opportunity to learn about your skills and accomplishments.

[pine topaz]

Haha sorry, I took your job 😅

[grizzled bronze]

gonna have to upgrade your desk and get more monitors

#full_timers message

[obsidian crater]

80k ft

It appears that the only thing valued in this industry is years of exp

So get 3 years of exp on your OPT and then do a master's

[fallen fox]

🪢

[obsidian crater]

It's not rope if you live in MCOL or LCOL

60k master's is basically 60k + interest

Unless you can pay it

I'd take FT tbh

Unless the company is dogwater

If you don't wanna do a PhD in the future you can use 2 stem extensions to get more work exp

[fallen fox]

those aristrocrat mfers keep ghosting me

🪢

[obsidian crater]

I'd take it

I just think you should maximize your OPT

Unless you're hell bent on a PhD

Just giving my $0.02

[tacit grove]

anyone seen any company actually hiring atm? where have you guys recently applied to?

[obsidian crater]

Canada has even less jobs

They also let in 10K people that got laid off on H1B from FAANG

So you're competing with those people

Hmm for Loo I'd consider grad school lol

🪢

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

I told you

[obsidian crater]

🪢

[pine topaz]

stop it

no more doom posting

we are bloomers

[obsidian crater]

[pine topaz]

Reminder:

[obsidian crater]

lmao

[autumn iris]

na they r also unemployed

[rain patio]

Is that the same person who was talking abt empathy the other day?

[autumn iris]

went from 32% yesterday to 48% today in the practice exams for AWS

[rain patio]

bro I got my SAA today

Shitting my pants

[autumn iris]

im working on the pro

i noticed the biggest issue is i havent seen scenerios for very specific AWS stuff

also remembering what every service does

[rain patio]

im scared

I just want to pass idgaf anymore

[pine topaz]

I put in word for you

[autumn iris]

giving myself a week to study for this exam

meant a week more

i already did the courses for over a month

just doing practice exams

idk the pro exam is literally just

situations

i dont think its hard

u literally just gotta know all the services and terms because

u can eliminate most of the answers

like immediately

[rain patio]

Usually 2 u can eliminate cause they are just wrong

[autumn iris]

yeah

[rain patio]

And then it’s like some slight detail to differentiate the remaining 2

[high owl]

Holy TC

[grizzled bronze]

Conduent full stack just dropped:
https://careers.conduent.com/us/en/job/85574/Early-Career-Full-Stack-Developer

[autumn iris]

[grizzled bronze]

All companies need to do away with remote

because it's more competition

[fallen fox]

how many internal roles can you apply to before it looks sus?

[grizzled bronze]

you got a lot of competition, Conduent roles have thousands of applicants

[rain patio]

conduent is the new zon

[fallen fox]

a lot of them are probably boot campers/self-taught/career-switchers

[grizzled bronze]

What are the recruiters gonna do, just pick some from the top and then discard the rest

[obsidian crater]

I hate my life honestly

[rain patio]

Same

[obsidian crater]

Why did I have to graduate

At this time

[rain patio]

ong

Imagine 2 years earlier

Hiring frenzy

[wet jacinth]

Don't worry, everybody dies at the end.

[grizzled bronze]

We're the lucky ones, imagine getting a new grad offer earlier and then being laid off

bullet dodged

[rain patio]

mf like me doesn’t get laid off

I do the pipping

[obsidian crater]

Idk what's worse

I'm so jealous lol

My friends last year got easy high tc jobs

[grizzled bronze]

when even @pulsar mural got an Amex return offer it was a sign that the market was gonna get bad

[fossil jewel]

eh but you have resume experience now

[rain patio]

that has to be the unluckiest thing

[wet jacinth]

yea, I wouldn't wish that on most of my enemies.

[obsidian crater]

unlucky

[narrow harbor]

easy as in more job postings, more responses in less applications, and easier interviews?

[fallen fox]

no way he's still jobless with that resume

[obsidian crater]

all

[manic wedge]

i am 😭

it's rough out here man

[fallen fox]

i have nothing to say

[grizzled bronze]

Yes way since more of the new grad roles are gonna be posted later on, he's gonna do just fine closer to fall

[fallen fox]

i should really rope

[obsidian crater]

[obsidian crater]

same

[rain patio]

Bro I didn’t even notice the 4x Meta wtf

[manic wedge]

i just want to start my life dawg

feels like time is just wasting away

[obsidian crater]

Isn't UPenn a quant feeder?

That's tough man

Fuck this market

[pine topaz]

zuckerberg backstabbed u

wow

fight him with elon

why is everyoen doom posting on a thursday

[rain patio]

fuuuuuck

[fallen fox]

it's that construction > 500k tc guy

[rain patio]

the only person that can save us is lord bezos

[fallen fox]

mfer works at dev ops making 60k

[pine topaz]

bro this is the longest recesionever

we are almost done

i think we are 13 months in

january 2024, market will boom

[obsidian crater]

The funny thing is it's not even a recession

It's just tech

[pine topaz]

thats not funny

its jsut depresing

[obsidian crater]

yeah

rope

[pine topaz]

if we go to a recesion it hink ill become a doomer and rope too

[rain patio]

recession = war szn

Catch me on the frontlines

[hoary fern]

or we break new record

just like global warming temp records

[obsidian crater]

yes

just need rope

[pine topaz]

so 3 years?

hype

lets do that

[hoary fern]

ayyyy

lets go

[pine topaz]

[hoary fern]

could def ride it out if u go for phd

drop out of phd and grad w masters when u get a job

cant live life trying to please everyone

[pine topaz]

i guess this msut be what our paretns felt in 2008

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[hoary fern]

in 2008 i had dick neighbors that abandoned their cat so now i have the cat in my profile pix

[raw plank]

Recession is more than halfway over

[pine topaz]

awww thats so whoelsome

good cat

[hoary fern]

she is good cat

[raw plank]

we're gonna make it

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

i hope ur neighbors lost their house and become homeless in 2008

[hoary fern]

they probably did which is why they left

[autumn iris]

gib job

[pine topaz]

[autumn iris]

EU salaries

💀

[hoary fern]

SUMMER VACATION

[pine topaz]

which eu coutnry offers 3 months

france?

[autumn iris]

just dont be jobless

[pine topaz]

why dont we have that in america

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

[autumn iris]

cant be that bad, CS best major

everyone starts off 200k

[hoary fern]

swe should go on strike

[autumn iris]

[hoary fern]

for summer vacation

[pine topaz]

real

except we have no unions

[hoary fern]

ok we need to start a swe union

[pine topaz]

okay but if i become the union leader andrew jassy is gonna make me unemployed and im gonna be in this horrible job market

[autumn iris]

[hoary fern]

nobody said its gonna be u

[pine topaz]

we need a swe with 30 yoe to be the union leader

theyll fair better in the job market

[autumn iris]

no because

noone wants to hire an old person

[pine topaz]

ok 15 yoe den

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

just like how i rally all the yahkunas

[hoary fern]

need to find one of those 30 year olds with 20+ yrs of exp

u can have that much exp if u work as a roblox dev starting age 10

[autumn iris]

idk i feel like

its insane if u start working at 22/23 correct job

mid 40s and 20yrs yoe

[solemn spire]

Its so humid here, I dont even have motivation to turn on my mac

[pine topaz]

thats why we are making it more sane by rolling back child labor laws

[autumn iris]

[pine topaz]

no more tik tok and fortnite brain rot

kids can become real men

and women

[autumn iris]

pretty sure tik tok tech dreams r dedge

i heard bootcamps r in a really bad spot atm

[obsidian crater]

tbh I give up

I'm gonna ldar

[rain patio]

I think I just got spat on my SAA

rejection after rejection and now the possibility of seeing a failure email

Do I rope now or tomorrow

[bold pier]

Nice cat

[severe pendant]

dont rope, im a failure but im still living lol

[raw plank]

If you rope, the tik tok "day in the life of an SWE"ers win

dont let them win

[grizzled bronze]

https://reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/1555v2w/is_there_any_counterargument_to_headcount/

After next week we're in August

that means more new grad roles are coming

[vital meteor]

[split plaza]

[frosty pike]

Code for good 15/15 test 1 , 4/15. Test 2 what’s the chances

[vital meteor]

87.45%

[cloud zinc]

Really hope there will be new entry level roles in rochester

[fallen fox]

too much copium

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-meme-ezreal-league-of-legends-starguardians-gif-26095110

[deep wasp]

Exactly 1 year ago today I had:
0 leetcode problems,
0 personal projects,
0 GitHub commits,
0 offers,
an unfinished CS degree,
1 minor internship
lots of angst & doubt

Today I have:
170 LC,
10+ projects,
2000+ GitHub commits,
3 internships,
2 full-time offers,
1 CS degree.

Lots can change in a year

[native mango]

International?

[rain swan]

Damnnn brooo

Pog shittt

[autumn jolt]

hey what is Conduent? more importantly is it a paid job or some training shittz?

[fallen fox]

no they're a generic american it company

they make software for state government agencies

like they maintain new jersey's ez-pass system etc

[autumn jolt]

oh interesting..you working there rn?

[fallen fox]

yes but not swe

[autumn jolt]

oh noicee

[fallen fox]

nothing nice, it's it help desk

i feel like roping every day 🪢

[autumn jolt]

ye but you atleast have a paid jobb

[fallen fox]

🪢

[autumn jolt]

[signal jewel]

Conduent swe or rope?

[fallen fox]

internal recruiter keeps ghosting me 🪢

[signal jewel]

What's next? Confluent?

[fallen fox]

[vital meteor]

Exactly 1 year ago today I had:
0 leetcode problems,
0 personal projects,
0 GitHub commits,
0 offers,
an unfinished CS degree,
1 minor internship
lots of angst & doubt

Today I have:
170 LC,
10+ projects,
2000+ GitHub commits,
3 internships,
2 full-time offers,
1 CS degree.

Lots can change in a year

[bold ether]

Internal recruiters almost never work

Sad reality

[fallen fox]

🔫

[bold pier]

Exactly 1 year ago today I had:
0
Today I have:
0

Lots can change in a year

[static quarry]

3 months ago: i was a boy filled with joyous whimsy!

Today: unemployed and hopeless

[autumn jolt]

1 year ago I had
1 ongoing summer internship
1 Fall internship offer
I had money
I was happy

Today I have nothing
only student loan

2023 ruined my life and wasting my youthful days sitting at home all day

[static quarry]

Tbh im trying to get anything

[narrow harbor]

2023 grads are gonna expired goods soon

[bold pier]

I'll physically expire before that happens

[whole berry]

im already expired goods bro

life is terrible

[raw plank]

is this from linkedin

we will never expire only become more fine

[narrow harbor]

i will never forget when i interviewed with a company in March and the interviewer asked me why I had a gap

like bruh i graduated dec 2022 it's only been 3 months give me a break plssss

[raw plank]

Next recruiter to ask me about a job gap is getting a gap in their ass

[deep wasp]

Lmfao I started a copy pasta

Noice

[pine topaz]

Happy friday!

Only good thigns happen at friday

[fallen fox]

gotta start lying now ngl

8 month gap

rope

need to figure something out

[vagrant rapids]

hello friends, i graduated in december 2022 and thast when my diploma says i graduated. however did a thing at my university where i technically took a gap semester after i graduated so I attended my universities graduation ceremony in may 2023. on my resume i say i graduated in may so that there would be less of a gap, but will this be a problem when they do background checks?

[fallen fox]

what does your transcript/diploma say

[vagrant rapids]

decemeber 2022

[fallen fox]

then you graduated december 2022

[grizzled bronze]

Fridays are usually rejection emails though

[fallen fox]

emailed another internal recruiter

[swift falcon]

I applied last night for a job that I've been rejected for

but this time I used a cover letter

it's technically a different job posting so that counts right?

they could just be adding 2 SEs instead of 1

[swift falcon]

send link

[swift falcon]

how does one get hired at FIS

[split plaza]

@karmic badger

[swift falcon]

mb next time

[pine topaz]

send link

Was this from your inteview yesterday

maybe next time

atleast its not one of those companies who want to give you a call after an interview to tell u that u didnt make it

[rain patio]

bro this is just beyond fucked

I would deadass start crying

Begging the mf for a second chance

[arctic orchid]

What stack are y’all using to find jobs??

I’m using linkedln, handshake, and GitHub repo not the coderquad one tho cus it sucks

[rain patio]

I prefer this over ghosting

[grave hawk]

Linkedin, Handshake, Github, Careers page, Indeed, Wellfound

[fresh mango]

Anybody hear back from any of the wellfound positions?

All I hear is "sorry we have decided to move w someone with more aligned experience" or some stuff, who are the ones with the experience then

[fallen fox]

nope not once

[rain patio]

well found is the startup thing right?

[fallen fox]

yeah

[tacit grove]

any company anyone is seeing that is actively hiring?

[tacit grove]

to find openings?

[thorny arch]

Had interviews out the ass fall 2022 and now I've got one at a startup the lead is referring me for. this market is well and truly fucked.

[wispy mason]

@elder forum are you international?

Is jpmc hiring international people rn?

[fallen fox]

no

[grave hawk]

yeah

[tacit grove]

have you heard back from any?

[grave hawk]

Lol optiver and blackrock sent oas thats it

What about Dec 2023 then

[autumn iris]

[bold pier]

Guys, I got an offer from a consulting firm - this is an excerpt from the terms and conditions:

WHEREAS, Employee agrees to a training period of up to two (2) months with Company and a
period of up to three (3) months for marketing purposes upon the completion of training period;

WHEREAS, the Employee agrees, as a condition of Employee's training, to be bound to a period
of employment with the Company of no less than twelve (12) months commencing from the date the
Employee begins working for the Company on a company assignment or project; and

How much do you think accepting this will fuck up my career.

Also they will pay only $14 for the possibly 5 months for traning and marketting and $70k post that