#2023_grads
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Do they sponsor? 🥺
I got exp :3
SWE and DE
how are you joblet
Ya I mean I think my return offer is as good as secured with them. You have to perform extremely bad not to get return offered, like the only person they didn’t give an offer last year was someone that spent the whole intern learning coding basics. Soo since I’ve been pushing code constantly they shouldn’t have any issues doing a return.
I ask that to myself everyday before crying to sleep
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thank you!!
anyone interviewed with AT&T for SWE role?
U got spacex right?
woah ur passionate about MLE than go for it
and ask them to match and near the comp u get with spacex
true but never know when spacex gonna do IPO
what role u got in spacex?
focused ?
ur passionate about MLE and I wouldn't think about spacex ipo tho, there are many things that comes into play
how many years does it take to vest? do the math and consider the trajoctory
if u feel that's too much to loose or potential to loose than drop the other
very difficult
that's a lot of money on table
So do you guys keep your course list on your resume or not? I've seen a lot of people say it's pointless because everyone already knows what courses a CS major takes
Ya im not doing it and it's not part of jakes resume, just checking. I did 0 special courses that weren't required so i have nothing to write about anyway
Yeah it’s kind of pointless tbh
google's time to layoff more people
I'm still doing it at the moment since I don't have any FT experience
Will probably take it off once I do
I wish for google to go under because of this
but how will i ever get google on my resume if google file for bankruptcy
I know they won't but one can dream
If google becomes a no-name I'll have a chance
\s
they probably have good lawyers so unlikely
big corps don't lose ever
Yeah google is taking many Ls lately
#1123448453717053440 message
Soo I wrote up my latest resume, what do you guys think about it? It looks a little short, not sure if I should add more bullet points about my work experience and new projects. I should have more to say about my current job soon, I'm just barely 4 weeks into it.
didn't they say that DeepMind is gonna be better than OpenAI?
That's 
Ehhhhh true
If one doesnt have any relevant experience should they just put projects on their resume?
What else would you put
irrelevant experience
do u mainly do CRUD things in big-n?
Most systems in the world are CRUD, but each of the C R U or D process can get really complicated given certain functional and non-functional requirements like security, availability, scaling, latency, business logic, compliance, etc. Hence it's important to be good with fundamentals of CS before doing anything else.
Hey... Is anybody joining/joined millennium management or know of someone who will be. Please DM
at what point do we bypass the recruiter and talk directly to the company for updates?
I've msgd them twice in last 2 weeks and no updates
I agree bruh, aws is just one big post request
Are there any stem ngos that don't require money but will file for opt? 😭
What is everyone doing to stop the clock?
drugs
if degrees are not that important, which means everyone can do it, then what makes you safe as a SWE?
i can do koko eating ababnas n n queens in the most effiient time and space complexity 
can you?
Whoever says the degree isn’t important is just straight up wrong
It’s not that important once you get in and get some yoe but to actually get to that point is much easier with a degree
most ppl do not have the discipline and drive to teach themselves to code at like an swe level
I live in the uk our junior doctors are on food stamps at this point
why
what about your nurses, teachers and social workers
?
because the world only needs SWE and we are the best 
Cause they are paid like shit and work 80-100 hours lol
First year junior doctor makes less than 30k
lol Akuna has bad glassdoor reviews
bruh
that's minimum wage in New York State
$15/hr at 40 hours a week for 52 weeks a year is $31200
how do u live in nyc with 30k
how do people do it
in poverty

Get roommates
If you're earning $15/hr
you probably need to work 70-80 hours a week
lol
but 30k is like so close to homelssness
it's nuts

30k is like 1 accident away from homelessness andopiuma ddiciton
Idk what that is by you’re generally a junior doctor for at least 5 years, I think the average is like 10 years
Was trying to reply to this lol

The salary increases every year so it’s not always that bad
But at the start it is just awful for how much they work
In Foundation training, you will earn a basic salary of £29,384 to £34,012 (from 1 April 2022).
its okay, we will join the homeless population in this upcoming recesion
we will know what its like to live with 30k per year in nyc
Ya foundation training is 2 years
oof
10 years for 30k?
bruh
wtf
And when u get specialty, ur no longer a junior I think
bruhh
has anyone here done the hackerrank or interviewed with enfusion systems? would be interested in hearing about what they were like
why would any1 wnna be a dcotor there
ahh
Right after finishing med school
I bet they still have to pay med school tuition
Well I live in Scotland so it’s completely free here
But in England yeah
Both
im scottish and work in scotland
Yeah
Aye crabbit
That makes no sense but I applaud the effort 👏
Thanks, also Celtics suck
next time tell them we are going to invade them with lockehed marrtin if they make fun of you again
🦅
lol
Isn't lockheed in like all commercial planes already :3
are you serious
i applied to lockheed in like april and got an email to schedule an interview, replied back to schedule it and got ghosted
just got a rejection email
i tried sending that msg 10 min ago idk if it went through
but now it’s a funny coincidence you guys starting talking about them lol
@pulsar mural likely stole that position away from u
Lets come up with a cheaper solution like OceanGate, it should work
when asked by the employer what her thoughts on the yemen and saudi arabai conflict, she replied with 
lmao wtf
she told me that she was also in the vietnam war as well 🤷♂️
Yes, thank you @pulsar mural 🫡
btw guys, how's the job search going? better than last month?
bootcampers get offers but i dont
amybe i should just burn my degree rn and rope
cant even get interviews
lmao I just checked, Boeing, the entire fucking jumbo jet making company with hundred thousands of employees, sells planes worth $70B a year
Where's some dude who shitposts on twitter has $200 B net worth
Better than rangers mate
bruh, SoFi
now you just messing with us
you will return, I prayed for u
I guarantee
In the same boat
same
That degree lookin like sakura from naruto

indeed
no hope
no cope
only rope
must mope
while doing dope
cause employers said nope
so did the pope
Is the job market still cooked
nope
Sippin' on Coke, life's got me choked.
Use google job search it pulls up jobs way better then LinkedIn and stuff
does Garmin focus on GPA a lot
Yes hard
When I interviewed they ask u to upload transcripts
Official ones from recent date
Idk but their requirements say 3.5+
????
I'd imagine so - grades are just a thing for them "this person does produce some results"
A referral is pretty much someone vouching that you can
reach out to JerseySTEM
say down an 8 stair and into any grind, slides, or manuals
3.47 u already know i be rounding every app
i got rejected with a 3.9, honors, and faang exp
what role?
swe
just swe 1?
ye
what the hell bruh
Ya so i doubt gpa matters just apply, its random
was it an embedded c/c++ position
Ah
There's a spring boot role open in my city that I'm tryna get cuz that's what I do at my internship but i have a 3.4 lmao
even if I'm above their GPA
is spring boot easy to learn? i got a job offer at a company that required 2 years of spring boot and i don’t even know it
i’ve never used it
lmao i don't know shit about it
it seems very robust tho
yea i don't know any of that i've just used java in school and that was enough to land an internship
fair enough, i also don’t know java that well 🤣
yea i personally don't like it very much
It's got much more in it than your typical node/flask stuff
- it has the burden of Java
node is easier to understand
So you have to learn all the Java ecosystem stuff
i don’t even know node
Like Beans, Jar, War, Maven, POJOs, Tomcat, Netty et al
I personally don't like Spring at all, if the company wasn't boomer they'd use Kotlin + Play
yea i work on a giant enterprise backend codebase that is so god damn confusing with spring boot
fr
Me until this week
you bagged offer?
we're still here man.
if grad schol isn't an option I don't know what I'm gonna do at that point
me too bro. Im so hopeless atm
Me
When did you graduate

Says in the comments they were doing a masters, had 2 internships, did google summer of code and was a RA for years
So hope for cracked people
he's also
not in the US

Amsterdam
also his resume must have been really good
if he was getting responses from all the big tech companies
literally just failed all the OAs/technicals
and he's currently a master student
graduated bachelors in 2021
masters in 2023

I'm trying my hardest - don't doubt that

This is a good time as any to mention my resume if any one wants to roast it
I only have one internship at gov
:ducknotes:
August 2022
cause its part of the government system
in exchange, salaries for every job
is super low

idk
ask again in 2yrs

just
get a full time job
if u already graduated

wut
for example my uni is free for local students but like 32k a year for intl
but yea some countries are similar for both
like western mainland

yea
it's not really just uk tho i know in the netherlands and ireland its expensive for intl too
probably others
Immigrants are third class citizens everywhere, back in my country if you study outside your state you pay 5x the fee of locals
Source: I paid 5x 
where this
Asia

Gotta get money somehow
ye a lowball offer but i’m taking it cuz i desperate
Fees at my uni are mental but they keep it free for the locals so it’s fine with me lol
Na u gotta be a current student for that, don’t end up like us 2022 grads and not be eligible for new grad roles either
congrats
but dont all the 2024 jobs start like next summer, even if we somehow got 1 tf are you supposed to do until then
bro i swear to fucking god im gonna add on top of my resume a big line in bold that i will take $10k less than the other candidates

hiring season should start soon for new grads december
at least thats wat im told

no
december 2023
grads
idk im pretty sure companies r just gunna be pickier
are you just talking like faang? how tf do normal companies not hire new grads either
companies always hire new grads every year even if economy is sht
PICK ONE

not on linkedin indeed handshake lol
all of them
Your pickle 
it hasnt opened?
hiring season for 2023 was like august 2022
i mean i apply to everything but bro the only shit rn that says "new grad" is like revature and ramp lol
this is 2023 grads bro we been looking for months
Archive 2023 grads, let's all move to #2024_grads
:Susge:
i will tell them i took a gap year to discover myself

:yepge:
avg
:noge:

yeah
oh
yahkuna
like july
2022?
yeah

most stuff was frozen by august sep
was internships different then?
at least the 2023 repo stuff
My resume is fine
I've posted it here multiple times
Nobody said anything bad about it
I even got people who got jobs last year to check
Idk it is what it is

Can't rewind anything now
same
u dont need sponsership either?
yeah its not like i can go back and apply when i should have been lol, im probably at 400 by now too
I do, that's probably why
no real interviews and a handful of oa
i saw layoffs n stuff
but i felt like
i had a lot of interviews applying for summer internships even though i applied
really really late
like from march
best ive gotten so far is a zoom? oa tomorrow for an ios job that wanted 2+ years of experience lol
But even with people that have citizenship, a lot of my friends didn't find anything
I know one dude with a master's degree that's been unemployed since December
idk why tf i gotta be on zoom bruh

:worry:
Hey guys!! I'm currently preparing for an upcoming full-time software engineer interview. I specialize in C/C++ and was wondering if this would be the appropriate place to get my introduction checked.
graduating in december
so..
i cant do my usual stuff and talk about how cringe that error was while im fixing it
sorry guys if this is the off topic
UEPGE
market is dogwater
The only people I've seen get hired are return interns / defense / or top college people
wat u mean
There are people that got jobs ofc
top college people

Here I am, 4.0, MS, defense experience, still sending applications
Kill me
Am I that ugly?
do u guys be doing the linkedin spam connecting to people and asking for referral
idk my plan is to just
referrals don't do shit
work on AWS certs, maybe do 1 project, continue leetcode
I've gotten multiple referrals only for the position to close or get ghosted
and apply in late july/august
My referrals keep going to second round panel interview, and then reject

I'm at 5 now
man i legit never cared about this stuff until kinda coming in here and learning but is this not like super abnormal? how are there just 0 jobs for college grads
dont even make sense man
anybody here know who went through the interviewing process for Junior SWE at Auto-Chlor 😭
just check glassdoor
Market has been fucked for about 1 - 1.5 years
:ducknotes:

market's been fucked since summer 2022
i'm just gunna apply to 1k places and hope they respond to me
worst part is the feds want a recession but they won't pull the plug and just cause it

how long do u guys think it'll be fucked for?
they keep edging us with "recession" and raising rates for a recession that isn't here
Tbh your better off messaging a dev and asking them to Reccomend you for a bonus
I did that lol
In my opinion I’d always recommend anyone because there’s no downside to me but a lot of upside
I'm still waiting
If u get hired I get free money lol so I’m rooting for u
Currently recommended two people and one is in process and other is pending

@graceful sigil your still pending
I recently received an interview invitation after applying two months ago.
so hopefully market is getting better idk

lmao I'm at 2k
how long do the 2024 places take to decide on offers anyway, like do they process apps as they come in and just give u a start date months down the line or do they wait a while to start eliminating people
do you guys apply for the position requiring 2 + experience?
I do and get rejected + ghost
yeah

ohh i see
no
no but i apply to whole country
I'm from Sugonda
what if u just call ur personal project a failed startup and now u have 2 years full stack experience
flawless plan
yeah works
I mean exaggerations are definetly needed on your resume I guess.. from now
no wonder just the comments from new grad with no experience
lmao

bro let me fight the 3 year experience mfs 1v1 for the job
i swear they cant b that much ebtter
worked on my portfolio, side projects, leetcode, random stuffs.
I built an ML model to recommend the best rope based on height, weight, location and budget.
personal projects and applying
Very creative project
is there even a point in practicing leetcode bro, i barely even get oa and they are always easy
if i had like amazon oa or some shit im sure id wanna practice some hards
lmao just in case.. just in case
days would come..
Indeed, I trained it using my RTX GPU and using K-clustering and logistic regression

just do leetcode a couple of days before the interview
has anyone done an oa on zoom?
if u know how to solve the questions in blind 50, you should be able to solve most other problems by extension
would sounds pretty odd but love leetcodes
how so
kinda fun
isn't a master's program 2 years?

fall-spring- summer -fall (graduate)
that's cool
uh
leetcodes are ego boosters but then i realize i dont get any anyway
1.5 year ones
what's your ms in?
cs?
top uni?
ok so top uni
how was life as graduate
go apply to DE Shaw
I have a feeling Alterium is smart af
uh im mainly focusing on DS
But he doesn't reveal it
all my courses are stats/CSE related
I just like trolling
but i been just grinding leetcode
I mean I think I’m alright but I put negative effort in to uni

also thinking about doing masters but kinda unsure if I can get that degree
I want to go to grad school
said top tier person
But only if I can get into a top school

I graduate next week with like a 3.0 or less equivalent lol
yeahh
only thing is that material in courses is just time-consuming
going to a shithole school like mine is literally rope fuel

hmm gotta convince my dad to sell one of his two properties so I can go to CMU
i had a 3.2 in undergrad

how many interviews have u 2022 grads had?
umm
I got 1 interview at DN. Inc
i’ve actually gotten a decent amount but the positions just get cancelled or i bomb it
Dn trading
i got laid off in jan and have been applying to minimum 10 places a day
They asked me to write a program in C++ to generate 2 balls using OpenGL
I couldn't do it
Rejected and rope fuel

applying to banks with a referral i think guarantees atleast an interview
Bro I just graduated in April been applying nonstop and not getting anything
Do you guys suggest quiting my part time job as code coach and focus on the job search
yeah skill issue ngl
suggestions needed please
@obsidian crater take notes
gonna apply to DN again after 6 month cooldown
This sound about right to anyone, I have 4 internships
No
John pierpont Morgan sr
wut
Can i work one year and still finesse new grad?
someone refer me to a bank
Canadian universities
okiee
this was all in the past 3 months
hmm
Yee, I have some interviews but most aren't responding
I got resume screeened or oa’d by all of them
But still got past screen at optiver and cit lol
UK moment
U need a referral and u need to know someone in the company so they can message the HM of that role to interview u, that’s the only way u can get interviews in 2023

feel much better talking with you guys
yeah rope otherwise
For new grad though?
until august
He's 1 yoe
For 2022 grads
idk i started prepping like
laid off from Forest Inc
late april 2023
Bruh

just don't stop doing LC
u gotta be an above average student to get an entry lvl swe job now, it’s honestly so dumb
wats average
u should always be worried
the fact that i know laid off ppl from faang in nov who still don’t have a job is so concerning

do you guys think it would be better next year?
no
okiee..
No this is the new normal
cs is over saturated

kuro
does DN CEO know you're on discord
nooooo
rope fuel watching bootcampers w/ no degree on linkedin making 200k
I got referred to a NG position, didn't get rejected yet
but we r entry level
Still 
Dn morgan

Easy
cat kitty cat cat kitty cat cat
Just be senior
@obsidian crater
also rope fuel watching my friend who graduated in 2021 w/ no internships from no name school make 200k in nyc
Be staff like me

nah i just go to target for optiver and the banks are picky af
🔫
it's an ethnic slur for manuls
hi yahkuna
how tf u get a referall for all of these
I just gotta become 600lbs?
im indian
uncles at every bank
cockapoo
could u tell ur uncles im like a brother to you
cock a poo
can I hit up your Indian uncle
I wanna get into a bank too lol
especially one that 996s

ur not ugly, stop being modest
Dafaq, you watching AWS documentry or what
basically
u just go through cantrill AWS courses
they make u create AWS accounts to do labs
yeah
its super time consuming though
Not a single AWS course I didn't get bored out of my mind 30% through. Just build something :3
idk, my plan is to finish these courses throughout july
do 1 project
and apply to jobs
i graduate in december

field
thats not my degree
data science degrees r a scam
data science yeah
DS
I think he meant data structures
bioinformatics

i dont qualify for any bioinformatics job
or DE

all my courses are stat based or CSE

gib interview
yah
no
main reason im doing it cause
it's free/cheap cause i got GRA
and covid graduates sucked

idk depends on wat u focused on
its super broad
data scientist
usually
or bioinformatic scientist
u just do DS on bio sht
Biodeez nuts

apply to DE Shaw mane
They want bioinformatics people
DE Shaw the guy quit his quant CEO job to pursue full time bio research
Man is a legend

idk im applying to tech related jobs mainly
bioinfomatics is like
kinda capped unless u have a phd
it's literally a data engineer job lol

it’s more data science than data eng
Biodiesel engineer (tractor)
i hadn’t done any biology in like 10 years so i just wrote a bunch of shit i didn’t understand in my papers and pretended to know what im talking about

Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
energy
Apply to be a nuclear reactor, lot of scope
idk im just doing AWS certs cause i think it's useful
deploying ML models on cloud
also my capstone is cloud sht/aws related anyways

i had to write an analysis of this as part of one of my papers
you can imagine what it was like
Idk what that is but looks like easy job for DN engineers
Green good, red bad, blue ok
I'll do anything as long as they don't keep me beyond 5 PM.
hahahahahaha

😐
lol
palantir internship lol, bro no way i wouldnt chat gpt this bs cmon cuh
palantir loves their essays
i thought u graduated
yeah idk im thinking about trying grad school, my schools apps close in 3 days lol
i dont have any internships but now that im healthy i could do some if i was in grad school
dont do grad school unless u have a good enough reason to do it

I want a greyhound
bro poeple i have no idea when ill be able to get a job, idk at this point masters plus internships would prob make up the money if i am able to get a decent job after
i used to have a whippet
if its instate and cheap
mini greyhound
long snoot
depends on uni, but generally
graduation rate is super low
like gatech one is cheap but most people only take 1-2 classes a semester
and generally they are all
recorded videos
thats fine
i meant for people
who aren't doing anything
like staying home and doing online masters
is bad
most people quit the masters though
gatech is super cheap n have a lot of people employed but
graduation rate is like
15%
lmao

my team was in the minority maybe that’s why we got laid off
wouldn’t be able to answer any except maybe 3 lol
these 3 questions aren’t even related, they r all diff fields, backend, data science, cyber
I know what training is in ml but saying “mathematically” and “pytorch” would throw me off
what kind of companies ask questions like this? i’ve never been asked anything like that
Usually "training" means finding optimal weights
Pytorch is used to build Neural networks
a masters lowkey is negative EV
So it's usually finding the weight values for each "cell" in the network
if you wanna do research just get a phd
For an NN, usually involves some kind of backtracking algorithm
backpropogation iirc
for eh MLPs
yea if you get paid for it, do it
if u have a masters u can directly apply to AVP positions at banks
multilayer perceptrons
oh I can do that
it calculates weights by passing forward and backwards essentially
could answer better if I knew I was interviewing for an ML position to be fair
cause I don't remember all the formulae on top of my head
what
odd questions for embedded
ah
I guess they can ask
If it's on your resume
online part time masters while working is W
Yea I hate when they just ask random trivia from a topic on your resume
shouldve asked him to rope
yeah this is me
i answered it in #2024_grads

the only people who can actually answer it
is maybe MLE
is this a machine learning engineer role?

okay
thats
ur fault
if you put anything ML related on ur resume
they can ask you anything about it
if you put u make a neural network on some random data set
they will ask you about backpropogation
cause its like the most important thing
i also wouldn't put ML on ur resume unless ur applying to ML specific stuff

unless u wanna be asked stats
yeah
thats ur fault
u wouldn't even want to use a classical RNN anyways
unless u made a LSTM

u never use RNN for anything because of
exploding and vanishing gradient issue
LSTM was made to fix the issues of RNNs
like if you tried scaling an RNN
it'll basically blow up
and ur result is sht
RNN -> LSTM -> transformers
yeah
but they can ask u anything about ML
since u put that
idk i feel like
u should be able to BS something
if they ask u something related to it
i can't say cause i already know that 

apply to marketing jobs
ez

gitgud
idk just google it until u know enough about it
thats wat i usually do

LSTMs can be a lil tricky though, esp if u put that on ur resume
uh
like chat-gpt is blowing up
but chat-gpt is basically a transformer ML model
and transformer ML model came from LSTM
and LSTM came from RNN
RNN came from nn
none

Wait kinda related
I got a master's in AI
But I get so few mle call backs
Do I need to do some bullshit to prove I know normal swe stuff?
Like data base and back end stuff?
(my understand was electrical)
Deep net architectures, statistics, physics for CV, sensor stuff for CV, physics simulations for robotics, reimbursement learning
Sure
none of that has to do with MLE
So then what the fuck is MLE
Yuck
So should I be looking at data science then, if I want to make models for not robots?
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