C++
#2023_grads
obsidian crater
brave forge
ok all the Java lovers are crawling out of the woodworks to defend it
swift falcon
I'd rather die than work at a job using python
brave forge
dont worry it's so slow they will probably forget what 100 lines of boiler plate they need to write to do anything before they can defend the language
python at a job is ew
only javascript is bae
python only good for interviews to pretend like u know how to code
novel rain
@RestController
@GetController
@lombok
@Bean
public static string final main cringe AbstractFactoryConstructorInterfacePattern { };
great language
swift falcon
I would like to learn Scala eventually
because of that guy from that show
who's like "something something beautiful lines of scala"
swift falcon
honestly, I have a love hate relationship with Maven
swift falcon
Scala is functional right? (whatever that means)
like Haskell and shit
and F
oh fr? it's just a reg program language?
ah
rotund breach
i should learn java, currently doing Golang right now though
swift falcon
getting fucking resources into the right folder for starters when you build shit
rotund breach
seems like theres a ton of opportunity in java
obsidian crater
ye
rotund breach
sadge
swift falcon
my body is ready
marble ivy
i was in the 10% and used C at big tech, so now i’m not marketable 😦
swift falcon
My team and I specialize in placing D365 candidates with the best clients and roles throughout the US such as Rolex and Patagonia.
does this sound good?
yeah it's just funny
novel rain
java is only popular at EnterpriseCorp bc of legacy
swift falcon
like why even bother adding that when the previous paragraph was telling me about the actual client
They went live about a month ago and looking to grow their internal team.
no thanks
obsidian crater
Doesn't matter if it's popular because of legacy or not
novel rain
it does bc it dictates what the industry technologies look like in the future
who is making new projects on php?
nobody
the eye test
swift falcon
novel rain
ok go find me a recent engineering blog about new developments with php
rotund breach
btw stackoverflow 2023 released idk if im late to. the party
swift falcon
a company around me advertised their web dev position as "YEAH WE CODE IN PHP DEAL WITH IT"
rotund breach
Is Go a niche language?
obsidian crater
iirc prometheus/grafana are written in go?
tbh I really like Go's concurrency model
It mogs traditional C threads
In terms of programmer experience
obsidian crater
rain patio
Me when I graduate and companies expect me to be an expert in a technology I didn't even know existed until like a month ago:
rain patio
I can make GUIs that change based on the OS, and they look pretty nice hehe
bold pier
I too am full stack, full stack depressed
rain patio
imo C++ overcomplicates stuff smh
bold pier
@rain patio did that at his buffet job
rotund breach
im probably gonna get yelled at but it doesnt seem like c++ is all that popular in companies
am i wrong?
bold pier
Niche is good, but choose it wisely
In the current market, it's extremely hard to get resume screened if you don't have niche skills
coz everyone and their mother already know Java, Spring, Hibernate
so even though demand is high, so is supply
timber rock
C++ on top 🔛🔝
rain patio
tf is hibernate
swift falcon
so even though demand is high, so is supply
where dat demand at?!?!
bold pier
where dat demand at?!?!
all the 1500 jobs I got rejected from
rotund breach
i think way too many people know javascript lol
timber rock
hello 👋 am low quality ts dev
bold pier
where is it, please refer me
rain patio
Everyday I'm checking my email and I'm like
bold pier
swift falcon
You made zero friends from your CS department during the entire 4 years of school?
You didn’t get to know any of the professors you had to interact with during the entire 4 years of school?
You went to zero programming competitions, hackathons, etc. during your entire 4 years of school?
You never joined any of the CS orgs like IEEE-CS, ACM, etc. that have local chapters at your school during the entire 4 years of school?
Watching people, who I know are not ‘better’ developers than me, landing internship after internship, is depressing me.
Newsflash, they are better developers than you. A developer isn’t a goblin who exists alone in a basement pushing out code by volume. A developer is part of a team and a collaborator on projects. Communication, teamwork, and interpersonal skills are paramount.
Post your anonymized resume as a comment and I will review it.
she had the audacity to send me this
brave forge
https://tenor.com/view/hamster-crying-hamster-crying-rip-hamster-hamster-die-gif...
@rain patio thoughts?
brave forge
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You made zero friends from your CS department during the entire 4 years of s...
who
NEWSFLASH 🤓
oh
brave forge
smh should of made time for friends also, gone to those late night parties
bold pier
smh should of made time for friends also, gone to those late night parties
friends?
brave forge
i had 0 friends in uni
because i went to online uni
and i lived alone
and ive only been in uni for 1 year
swift falcon
I had 0 friends because I was 28 years old in class with 19-20 year olds
bold pier
I had 0 friends because I was 28 years old in class with 19-20 year olds
You're 28? and have kinds and wife?
bold pier
Bruh I'm almost 29 and don't even have change of sheets
rotund breach
25 😎 2nd career
swift falcon
nice
rotund breach
I had 0 friends because I was 28 years old in class with 19-20 year olds
i feel this though fr
being a commuter also kinda hindering
met most of my friends on campus around that age
bold pier
I hate < 25 year olds, always looking for drama
swift falcon
tbh there were a few funny ones that I would hang out with in class
but idk if I'd call them friends lol
just acquaintances
and the real question
how the fuck does having friends from uni help me with job hunting?
they're just competition at this point
bold pier
so are we, everyone's competition if you think about it
rotund breach
yeah it doesnt but maybe with upper classmen it might lol
i.e 1-2 grades higher, might give you referrals. A few of my friends got jobs that way actually
swift falcon
alr fair enough
brave forge
im 20 and struggle at work to be cool with the 30 yr olds lol
bold pier
Also it's a long term game, the referrals come in real handy few years down the line when everyone's made it
swift falcon
Also it's a long term game, the referrals come in real handy few years down the ...
actually I did have a buddy who was an intern at a company that I wanted to work at, and I was actually hoping there might be some connection, but last time I checked he's like not in a SWE position
cloud zinc
when will junior roles return to indeed/linkedin?
asides from some clearance prereq, nothing is comming up
ebon moat
My friend whos a grade above me got me in touch w his recruiter that got him his current job, i got ghosted by the recruiter but its the thought that counts
cloud zinc
yeah. Haven't been auto-rejected yet.
hollow forge
when will junior roles return to indeed/linkedin?
yea what's up with the drought in junior swe jobs?
cloud zinc
is the market STILL shitty?
my god please somebody cut the tongues off of these overzealous LinkedIn influencers
hollow forge
I haven't checked in a min but last time I did the two main cities I was looking at (NYC and Boston metro area) were dry af
cloud zinc
"the stats don't lie, it will get better in april may june july "
cloud zinc
I get thatm but for more than a year?
obsidian crater
Companies are not expecting growth
cloud zinc
Thought it was strictly a 2022 thing
obsidian crater
Which is why they aren't hiring new grads
Because new grads take a little while to be productive
swift falcon
Because new grads take a little while to be productive
I could be productive tomorrow
immediate productivity
cloud zinc
that royally sucks for us 2022 grads then. Nobody was hiring new grads after september
hollow forge
royally sucks for 2023 grads as well
cloud zinc
could've landed an analyst role for aws if they didn't reallocate the requirement to mid-level devs
hollow forge
i'm really hoping i can hold down my job for a year or so once i start in aug
cloud zinc
royally sucks for 2023 grads as well
at the very least, you are considered "fresh" in the eyes of the market
obsidian crater
Most people consider <= 3 years junior
cloud zinc
but there are strict requirements for "recent grads"
hollow forge
but there are strict requirements for "recent grads"
that's true but there's no new grad roles 💀
cloud zinc
after 9-10 months from graduation, you are locked out of those opportunities
vital meteor
but there are strict requirements for "recent grads"
Usually 12 months but some apps are <1 YOE instead
cloud zinc
I heard that Master degree holders may face rejections for entry-level roles because they are considered "senior devs" by that point. Can you lie about your degree status to get into a junior role after getting a masters?
swift falcon
I heard that Master degree holders may face rejections for entry-level roles bec...
bffr
u gotta be kidding me
aint no way
cloud zinc
to be fair, heard this might be a thing from cscareerdev. While this could be taken with a grain of salt, I have a feeling that the struggle posts in that subreddit have a dose of reality behind it.
like if someone is struggling enough to make a post, it might be something that you'll face in this market
should you take that route
marble ivy
Probably around 300K people got laid off in 2022-2023 so far
that’s honestly not alot of ppl, i was class of 2022, and i literally only know 3 ppl impacted by layoffs, laid off ppl r just unlucky
like 99% of 2022 grads who got a job still have it
obsidian crater
cloud zinc
the thing is, most jobs don't consider internship as experience
you could do everything right and still get the short end of the stick
obsidian crater
Tbh all this seething is only cause the market sucks ass
In 2021 people were cheating on Amazon OAs and still getting offers
cloud zinc
this isn't just standard seething tho
cloud zinc
with how things are going and have been goint, its just full-blown paranoia from a lack of a job
obsidian crater
Cheated in 2 classes lol
brave forge
i cheated in all my classes
obsidian crater
Yeah it's not really a meritocracy 100%
Mass layoffs are kinda random
Astro should've come to my school
cloud zinc
haven't heard back from the analyst jobs I applied to and got immediately rejected from a integration SE role from some companies
obsidian crater
He'd get an F and kicked out of the department for cheating in the first course lol
Get MOSS'd
cloud zinc
in fact, my interview for an analyst role with AWS got cancelled back in November because they reallocated their budget
obsidian crater
You'd be surprised nate
Even with how easy MOSS is to fool
People still get caught
brave forge
Astro should've come to my school
thats why i went to online uni
idc about uni i can code just let me code lol
i got done in < 2 years with a 3.8 gpa at my own pace so im happy
cloud zinc
the skills I allocated towards leave no room for exploring other dev roles, since a majority of internships I was pidgeonedholed in involved nothing but web development and some backend shennanigans
brave forge
the skills I allocated towards leave no room for exploring other dev roles, sinc...
i asked my boss to let me work on everything they have
rain patio
software engineering is not leetcode
obsidian crater
nate
brave forge
front end react, react native for mobile, and backend aws/node
rain patio
wut
obsidian crater
you're jacked right?
you benched 250 for 12 reps first day in gym?
250kg of course
rain patio
no thats yakhuna
pulsar mural
yo
obsidian crater
Tbh I'm happy I don't live in Canada
rain patio
yahkuna is beast
rain patio
deadass yak could take out the entire server
obsidian crater
cloud zinc
its just a dammed if you do / dammed if you don't kind of scenario with this market. Either you fall deeper in debt to attempt to get a masters and postpone your graduation until you secure a full-time job or wade for the next several months of job hunting and completing projects with no target audience
the person who would've "benefitted" from one of my projects ghosted my proposal for a month
swift falcon
lol i stg everything you say is trash describes my exact situation
I mean, yeah
0 SWE
did u mean like 0 professional experience at all?
cloud zinc
normally I'd believe this sentiment and keep applying, but with how my last interview at a local no-name went, it seems that the gap of experience is becoming more and more of a red flag
I am only going straight towards a masters because I failed to find a job for almost a year
there needs to be a viable excuse for my unemployment in the eyes of the recruiters, hence the masters
I literally have no other verifiable choice. My original plan was to get a job THEN get a masters after getting enough experience. But shit isn't working out
I cannot get anywhere without either a pity hire like mid-covid or forcefully extending my academic pursuit
they won't hire me otherwise
swift falcon
I've technically already done something like that, and it's like, internal transfer to the same department of 12 IT people that keep the company running
cloud zinc
like I swear to god, unless I get an offer from STI tomorrow, I have no other choice
I would immediately die if that was not an exit path
swift falcon
so you kinda mean here, like they should still be trying to get a job based on bachelor's credentials even if they're pursuing master's degree
that makes more sense
cloud zinc
the more I spend not getting an offer or not getting experience that actually helps a target customer or demographic, the more unemployable I will become
cloud zinc
so you kinda mean here, like they should still be trying to get a job based on b...
its not like I'm not finding a job tho. It has gone so bad that I have to LIE about taking a gap year instead of telling people that I've sent 1500+ applications since august 2022
swift falcon
hey griswold got a tech job tho
cloud zinc
unlike Gris, The person who would've transformed a personal project into a real-world experience decided to ghost me
also, he acutally managed to get a job
I can't even get an analyst role because my stupid ass decided to graduate early thinking that MITRE would take me in post-internship
Its not even about being confident as well. All that remains is convincing somebody to buy into my bullshit. The fact that I went through a final interview is more than enough.
I cannot get an internship without a masters
I cannot restart my degree because it is illegal for some reason to restart your degree over a stupid scheduling mistake
this would be inconsequential if the gap of experience was small enough
I'm sorry, but I've reached the point where not doing anything or generating a valid excuse would do more harm than help
pulsar mural
yo
marble ivy
its not like I'm not finding a job tho. It has gone so bad that I have to LIE ab...
Ur a 2022 grad?
little cypress
ya they aren’t too bad. i got interviewed and got an offer but personally the job wasn’t for me so i declined.
currently looking for product management roles or software dev ☝🏽 if y’all know any companies hiring plug plz. i’ve been mass applying like crazy and companies usually do the typical “This position has already been filled” or “you aren’t qualified enough” or some other mess
marble ivy
i’ve applied to so many lockheed roles but never hear back
timber rock
@obsidian crater went in and asked about ur application. with a bit of convincing they now say ur getting offer next week
signal echo
Haram. <@&868936794601828492>
cloud zinc
Ur a 2022 grad?
yes
green chasm
what do you guys answer when companies ask for salary expectation?
I am applying to london SWE grad jobs for context
timber rock
I ask them for the job’s salary range and if they don’t give that then I just say something like “from what I’ve seen online, this company’s salaries are in line with my expectations”
I almost never give the first number
swift falcon
I ask them for the job’s salary range and if they don’t give that then I just sa...
damn that is next level
nimble wren
y'all think the market will be better in a few months for new grads? I'm graduating in December but I'm thinking about just travelling or something for a few months after and hope the market gets better by like April or May
autumn iris
y'all think the market will be better in a few months for new grads? I'm gradua...
no.
another day, another session of leetcode
The only thing we'll see is some job openings come up
but theres too many people on the market atm
no vacations/breaks til i get an offer
nimble wren
godspeed
rain patio
its not like I'm not finding a job tho. It has gone so bad that I have to LIE ab...
Me too, I made up a very good believe-able story that sounds powerful and deep 🤣
dense swan
Me too, I made up a very good believe-able story that sounds powerful and deep �...
Share pls so i can use it too 🙃
rain patio
I leverage that I live in border
literally 5 mns and I am mexico
And I say that during this times my fiancé got deported 🤣
dense swan
Lolol
rain patio
And I am in the process of marriage
To get get back
It works really good
They really believe that
And I also use the fact that there is no jobs in this city
Literally 0 tech jobs
Just Walmart and field work
but it also sounds really good that I work for a government entity
green chasm
I ask them for the job’s salary range and if they don’t give that then I just sa...
even if its below market range?
what about when they require a number? like in a application form and it won't submit unless I put down a number?
timber rock
what about when they require a number? like in a application form and it won't s...
I write £0 lol
timber rock
Cause I don’t give the first number
solemn spire
these icims are so annoying to apply to
green chasm
Cause I don’t give the first number
Thank you
vital meteor
What if they offered you 0
bold pier
Do 0 work.
obsidian frost
Just got rejected at Chewy for SDE II with a reason : Code and logic was right but had few syntax issues
pure mauve
Lol f that company
obsidian frost
Thats just so stupid
Yeah. And I didn't remember hashmap syntax on the top of my head at first. So I took time to correct the syntax
swift falcon
Just got rejected at Chewy for SDE II with a reason : Code and logic was right b...
in other news, chewy’s newest SDE II position was given to jimbob the interviewers son
obsidian frost
obsidian frost
are we really at the point where syntax is a make or break metric now?
Thats exactly what I asked the recruiter.
vital meteor
in other news, chewy’s newest SDE II position was given to jimbob the interviewe...
jimbob deserved it, he nailed the 2sum question
swift falcon
Thats exactly what I asked the recruiter.
write everything in pseudocode from now on
“I’m just going to write this in pseudocode, hopefully you all are smart enough to understand “
obsidian frost
Lolll
prisma flax
Guys i got the offer letter
delicate lantern
For where
prisma flax
Initially no but i have asked them
I was able to bump it by 5k and get another 5k for relocation after initial offer
Is there any time frame i need to accept the offer, i have another interview tomorrow 😅
Thanks 😁
Ya I am thinking to accept this offer and see how the other one goes 😅
Would it be a bad idea?
Hmm need to think about it
vital meteor
Would it be a bad idea?
no
lucid sonnet
Guys i got the offer letter
Congrats! Which company?
south sable
Guys i got the offer letter
congrats!
chilly burrow
Guys i got the offer letter
Congrats 👏
muted sigil
how to get experience without getting experience?
and does building full stack apps on your own count as experience?
thats very nice
prisma flax
Its a small credit union
marble ivy
Just got rejected at Chewy for SDE II with a reason : Code and logic was right b...
How r u a 2023 grad applying for an SDE2 position
rain patio
and does building full stack apps on your own count as experience?
Just build something that's decently useful that people would use. Show that you can code at a professional level. I'm going to make an online python IDE and a google docs clone and see if those projects look good enough on my resume
prisma flax
How r u a 2023 grad applying for an SDE2 position
Masters with experience i guess
marble ivy
nice
muted sigil
Just build something that's decently useful that people would use. Show that you...
that's great, do you think e commerce is a good useful project? i have made it
muted sigil
Just build something that's decently useful that people would use. Show that you...
are you going to use react to make them?
rain patio
that's great, do you think e commerce is a good useful project? i have made it
Oh yeah, that sounds great! Make sure it's hosted somewhere so people can access the website, and have the code saved on a github repo so the more technically inclined people reviewing your resume can have a look at your code too
muted sigil
Oh yeah, that sounds great! Make sure it's hosted somewhere so people can access...
i have done that, but im getting no as a response
rain patio
And typescript too
rain patio
i have done that, but im getting no as a response
idk then lol
muted sigil
And typescript too
awesome, you sure youre gonna get hired?
rain patio
All people tell me is "do more projects and you'll get interviews"
rain patio
awesome, you sure youre gonna get hired?
that's what people say lol
muted sigil
that's what people say lol
oh well, youre just like me then
rain patio
I'm all out of ideas at besides working on projects lol. idk how else I can prove to employers that I know what i'm doing
Leetcode is nice, but I don't even get interviews in the first place lol. Can't use leetcode knowledge without interviews
prisma flax
I got an interview because the project i did aligns with what they are looking and working on
muted sigil
they arent hiring anyone with experience less than 3 years
muted sigil
Leetcode is nice, but I don't even get interviews in the first place lol. Can't ...
definitely
muted sigil
I got an interview because the project i did aligns with what they are looking a...
what project was it?
prisma flax
what project was it?
It was a kafka based live analytics project with some NLP added in it
Just some simple components but they where looking for similar person for a role and got an interview
muted sigil
It was a kafka based live analytics project with some NLP added in it
that seems a really hard project
muted sigil
Just some simple components but they where looking for similar person for a role...
congrats king
prisma flax
It depends on luck and how you position yourself
prisma flax
Am not good at it, worst kind out there, i took some suggestions from my friend and learned only one algo for that project 😅
muted sigil
Am not good at it, worst kind out there, i took some suggestions from my friend ...
still incredible
prisma flax
just tweaked the existing model
muted sigil
so have you went on site or wil you?
muted sigil
just tweaked the existing model
Ahh Thats what we do
prisma flax
Next round is on site, they did gave me a take done with that as well
muted sigil
did it go well?
prisma flax
Yea have a call tomorrow regarding that
Feedback and next steps 😅
Have to see how that goes
rain patio
time to become a roblox developer 😂
prisma flax
Thanks 🙏
autumn iris
swift falcon
time to become a roblox developer 😂
oh you know Robert Blox?
obsidian frost
How r u a 2023 grad applying for an SDE2 position
Masters with 2 yoe prior to that.
rain patio
oh you know Robert Blox?
nope
delicate lantern
Are any of these staffing companies where they say they’d market your resume even legit
Or has anyone tried them
swift falcon
Are any of these staffing companies where they say they’d market your resume eve...
wdym by 'market your resume'
like go find you a job?
delicate lantern
Probably a fake job posting on LinkedIn and then they ask you how many years of experience you have
obsidian frost
Probably a fake job posting on LinkedIn and then they ask you how many years of ...
This
delicate lantern
After you tell them you’re a new grad, they say their client has a looking for someone with more new years experience so they offer their course
And to make your resume marketable
swift falcon
And to make your resume marketable
that sounds like a scam and a half
obsidian frost
One guy from my univ joined. They deleted his old LinkedIn and created a new one with too many fake experiences
delicate lantern
Ya
swift falcon
just do what I did and drop $250 on the 'professional' resume writing tier
I met with career services at my school today, like it was ok gave me a few pointers on networking, but like nothing that was really groundbreaking
however, they were screensharing and looking at my prof, and they kept saying 'yeah get a professional headshot' and I was like 'i literally got a headshot from you guys' until I realized my profile picture was completely blank because I have my security locked down
I was like bruh
no wonder people aren't hiring me, they can't see my beautiful boy face
south sable
no wonder people aren't hiring me, they can't see my beautiful boy face
you look like a boy?
like a babyface?
swift falcon
you look like a boy?
ryan gosling
swift falcon
like a babyface?
wary pollen
Real talk. Is it easier finding a swe job with an MS than BS?
prisma flax
it's easier to find swe with some experience in tech
ur interested in somespecific role which only hire master grads than go for it
to find a job getting a master's is literally wasting time
bold pier
Guys I found the best job
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3641171644
Title: Java Developer
Decription Title: Python Developer
Job Requiremens: Javascript Developer
south sable
Guys I found the best job
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3641171644
Title: ...
You see, I am uniquely qualified for this position
bold pier
You see, I am uniquely qualified for this position
Oh, you too are Bipolar?
south sable
It's because the what I say I do is nothing like what I tell myself I do which is nothing like what I actually do
ornate cliff
Bro my part time job to teach in a programming camp for kids got rescinded
Holy fuck
south sable
https://youtu.be/F-2AhcYL4oI
dense swan
Real talk. Is finding internship easier than new grad? If so, im screwed bc i couldnt even land internships before
ornate cliff
Real talk. Is finding internship easier than new grad? If so, im screwed bc i co...
Yes it is
prisma flax
Real talk. Is finding internship easier than new grad? If so, im screwed bc i co...
well i haven't even gotten interviews for interships
obsidian crater
<@348784192731086848> went in and asked about ur application. with a bit of conv...
prisma flax
moving to london
timber rock
<:thanospog:766459435441848363>
It’s nearly midnight and the lights are still on in the office, good luck with your new slave position
obsidian crater
oh yeah
timber rock
hello yahkuna matati
signal echo
It’s nearly midnight and the lights are still on in the office, good luck with y...
When I worked there, I heard that IB interns would clock out at 8pm
prisma flax
is possible to move from swe to ib ?
timber rock
why would you do that
prisma flax
if we work in same company 🤑
just curious, before I was head set and wanna become ib guy
obsidian crater
If you live in the US why would you go with IB?
SWE in the US make about as much or a little less than IBs with way more WLB
IBs work ~70-80 hours a week lol
prisma flax
True, but in everyother country IB makes more than swe
obsidian crater
True
If you can survive
Working that long for years takes its toll on the mind and body
obsidian crater
It is boring
IIRC IB is mostly talking to people + excel + powerpoint
For 80 hours
fossil jewel
they truly have that 996
fossil jewel
bc he's still in middle school
pine topaz
This is her life
signal echo
Yahkuna is a cat. Those fuckers are lazy as fuck
timber rock
who is martin
prisma flax
martin luther king jr
obsidian crater
Martin DN
brave forge
Just got off work
Cant wait to join u guys in being unemployed again when I don’t get this RO 😭
obsidian crater
welcome to the club
obsidian crater
investment banking
rain patio
oh
fossil jewel
yo
pulsar mural
🪢
pulsar mural
@obsidian crater
obsidian crater
matati
pulsar mural
fossil jewel
add me on xbox: matati2330
fossil jewel
obsidian crater
NGMI it's over
timber rock
<@220581504718209024>
It ain’t happening
obsidian crater
yeah I know
obsidian crater
timber rock
did u ace oa
timber rock
good cause that doesn’t actually matter tbh they ghost most ppl anyway
obsidian crater
that doesn't do shit usually
timber rock
will mahood is your guy
fossil jewel
better do than not
obsidian crater
they accept connection then don't reply ever
timber rock
i messaged him about t last year and he just told me they’re still reviewing apps
and then got rejected a few months later lol
swift falcon
what if we held hands and connected on linkedin 👉👈
fossil jewel
can always give it a shot and talk about how enthusiastic you are to apply and how ur ready to be a corpo slave
obsidian crater
daddy I wanna work at JP until 8
9am - 9pm 6 days a week
For 60k
- 20% tip to CEO
lmao
fallen fox
saw it 
swift falcon
timber rock
just gonna pretend that never happened
tawdry jewel
tip to CEO XD
obsidian crater
I kinda gave up on getting a job lol
obsidian crater
there are no jobs to apply to lol
fossil jewel
obsidian crater
I scour most job sites
Most positions want seniors or at least 2-3 years of experience
Or they demand you must have 'x' years of knowledge in Y
fossil jewel
yeah honestly if no options and you're intl, then get no-lc it job and code on the side to stay sharp
swift falcon
I love it when you find a great job posting and then realize it’s like 2 months old
fossil jewel
el idiot yak
fossil jewel
<:WazowskiStare:752943231104188518>
its 2023
fossil jewel
even conduent rejected me lol
feel like half the new grads applied there
obsidian crater
Conduent basically email rejected me in 20 minutes
Even Nuwin who works at Tiktok lol
fossil jewel
whats the requirements?
obsidian crater
0-2 yoe
fossil jewel
oh yeah
obsidian crater
0-3 Years of exprience in IT field as a Systems Analyst
The Developers are currently doing the analysis, discovery and story creation for integrations.This person will be partnering with these resources to create stories with technical acceptance criteria for implementing functionality.
Assisting with the designing, verification and implementation of integrations through REST APIs and MicroServices.
This person will assess how data is used and retrieved from the system and how information is displayed to the user.
fossil jewel
too broad, would attract <2-3yoe layoffs as well as ng
violet topaz
there are truly no jobs
swift falcon
these fucks are posting shit without actually hiring
obsidian crater
My friend works at this company
They basically are only hiring senior devs because they can lol
They had some juniors leave / get fired but they're only posting senior positions to replace them
swift falcon
They had some juniors leave / get fired but they're only posting senior position...
that’s dicked up
cloud zinc
STI Computing never gave me my results for the final round interview. For the sake of closure, I'm going to email them tomorrow and ask for my results.
idle temple
is Apple actively hiring? i applied to a bunch of roles 2-3 months ago and have heard nothing
solemn spire
these fucks are posting shit without actually hiring
For real
obsidian crater
LOL
bold pier
these fucks are posting shit without actually hiring
shoutout to BofA, Apple, Google, Comcast, Amazon
south sable
shoutout to BofA, Apple, Google, Comcast, Amazon
What's BofA?
bold pier
What's BofA?
BofA deez nuts
swift falcon
me when I finally get a job offer
south sable
shoutout to BofA, Apple, Google, Comcast, Amazon
well, tbf, Google's been doing that since a while ago
bold pier
well, tbf, Google's been doing that since a while ago
I'm one of their victim so need to mention
bold pier
except I'm a grad from a year ago
so you're very experienced without job experience
lilac siren
Maybe it's a green card advertisement.
south sable
so you're very experienced without job experience
experienced at having no experience
i have an 8 mo internship but that's about it
swift falcon
fucking recruiters and hiring managers have the mf audacity
they need to be taken down a notch
bold pier
and you say it's not insane?
swift falcon
oh ig that's insane in a good way
bold pier
coz market is insane
ornate cliff
if you not passing screens with t5 and faang, post it so we can roast you
lilac siren
Maybe it's a green card advertisement.
The company needs some proofs to convince us gov that they can't find any us citizens for the position, so they posted an ad. But there is no way to apply for it. So they can apply the green card for a foreigner.
bold pier
How you pissedoff some men
ornate cliff
no stanford in t5?
lilac siren
People with <= 3 yoe and new grads can compete for a same junior level position
swift falcon
harvard yale penn state shababa mannana
isn't penn sate in ivy league?
whatev idgaf
bold pier
isn't penn sate in ivy league?
Penn state is in Pennselvania
rotund breach
penn state not good
rotund breach
idk i got a realtive that went there for 25k/yr
swift falcon
wow MUST BE NICE
rotund breach
its kind of dumb a school like that charges that much
cloud zinc
was that full stack role entry level or mid?
bold pier
That's the last person who qualifies as lil bro here
swift falcon
yeah but you got offer tho
cloud zinc
I'd gladly take that off of your hands if it were possible
swift falcon
we all got dick rn
bold pier
we all got dick rn
mus be nice
cloud zinc
is your uncle a fool?
obsidian crater
I love DN
rotund breach
based uncle
bold pier
Your uncle is Google ads?
cloud zinc
bro's meatriding google
swift falcon
what does loving Go have to do with knowing the market will rebound?
cloud zinc
hell nah
quartz plinth
is there still a channel for resume feedback
swift falcon
ornate cliff
swift falcon
no thanks I do java
rotund breach
r u a gopher
bold pier
is there still a channel for resume feedback
@rain patio
quartz plinth
why does everyone anonymize shit like crazy lol
ornate cliff
they think people will show up at their door
quartz plinth
i get taking ur name out but changing google to FAANG seems extra
quartz plinth
fair
obsidian crater
oof
quartz plinth
ok time to anonymize ig
not getting past any initial apps
feel like smthn is off
bold pier
Anybody in NYC going to MongoDB conference tomm?
ornate cliff
not getting past any initial apps
tag me when you post I will roast
quartz plinth
quartz plinth
tag me when you post I will roast
thanks one sec
bold pier
Nintendo
ornate cliff
Albertsons
bold pier
amazoN
swift falcon
like da grocery store?
ornate cliff
swift falcon
they had hot case rotisserie chicken with roasted jalapenos that were hot af
bussin
ornate cliff
no i want 200k TC coming from a shitty canadian school
fossil jewel
Anybody in NYC going to MongoDB conference tomm?
damn i forgot its tomorrow
likely no then lmao
could've let my team know
wow ur gonna be a doctor
congrats
bold pier
lmao you gonna get roasted
quartz plinth
lmao you gonna get roasted
ill take it
solemn spire
Wouldnt they know the date you graduated when they do background check? Or do you mean pushing back your graduation date?
paper basalt
yea, we're entering a world where you basically don't want to lie about shit if its important
grizzled bronze
AWS cert to mcAT
round lake
Anyone had an interview with Intel?
humble heart
Applied for like 4 roles with Meta:
no reject email(s)
!process meta infinite ghost
cerulean basinBOT
You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2024_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_fall_intern_process, 2023_grad_process
rain patio
it was over before it even started
swift falcon
it was over before it even started
it’s ova fo da little guy
tardy geode
pine topaz
<:killme:318967776826097685>
you werent kidding
How was your job seaech friend
Did you land anything
obsidian crater
bold pier
damn i forgot its tomorrow
wdym, did you pay the $200 and not going?
obsidian crater
it's over
fossil jewel
wdym, did you pay the $200 and not going?
nah i would’ve went for free
bold pier
humble heart
My apps are just gone lol
crystal steppe
That's for new grad 2024?
next geode
Has anyone given Nutanix's interview?
autumn jolt
Asking for a friend. Has anyone interviewed at Barclays (not new grad roles) recently? How long does it take to hear back?
deep wasp
So idk if this is going to help me at all, but I’ve been memorizing optimal solutions to some random LC problems and then timing myself (as a way of motivating myself to practice them) and trying to decrease that time (making a game of it). What ones should I memorize next? I want to do ones that have a common, repeatable pattern that apply to a wide variety of problems.
No lmao not joking
I know it’s dumb
vagrant star
I would reevaulate how you approach leetcode
deep wasp
I think you misunderstand why I am doing this.
It’s for problems where I have no idea what to do
And I can draw upon the existing ones I know well
rotund breach
So idk if this is going to help me at all, but I’ve been memorizing optimal solu...
are you talking out loud during each LC problem?
cuz thats the actual point not doing it quickly
Also you'll get way more ROI if you can understand the patterns behind each of those problems as they can be applied to other problems. Banking on seeing the top problems is not a good bet
deep wasp
Obv not going to do it like that in interview lmao. I understand that it’s important to know the concepts and such, and this wasn’t to say that it was a substitute for learning the concepts. For me at least, sometimes it’s easier to motivate myself to do something if I gameify it in some way, and was sharing one such way I’ve done that with LC
rotund breach
i also just dont like the idea of doing the same problem several times if you can get it done under 15 minutes, its too comfortable to memorize and u dont learn when ur comfortable
deep wasp
I think some things are important to memorize, like setting up a backtracking DFS, which is something I used to struggle with, and other such patterns
green chasm
Does anyone know how some people skip the online assessment?
swift falcon
you know that tiktok trend where they’re like “if he wanted to he would”
I feel like that holds true for employers
“if they wanted you they would (snatch you up)”
prisma flax
done with interview, said he would update by monday eod have positive sign
hope for the best 
swift falcon
bold pier
The tracks look real tempting today
rotund breach
anyone else just get pissed off when they do leetcode
maybe i should switch off c++ into python cuz im getting annoyed at myself
i get extremely close to the solution but there's always some minor detail I can't debug
its like im playing I-Spy every single time I do a LC problem
I would even say it's rare that I run a solution that doesn't have at least 1 bug in it which is really concerning IDK what to do
rain patio
does anyone else struggle with leetcode easy
rotund breach
does anyone else struggle with leetcode easy
if its my first lc problem in a set then yea i'll struggle
i struggled with 2sum cuz i didnt know what a hashmap was
rain patio
May2022 Grad
rain patio
I was good at projects but leetcode is boring to me, I find it annoying, oh yeah I can definitely brute force my way trough most easies
rotund breach
lol its less painful the more u do it in my experience
just set a habit, every morning before your workout do like 1 easy or w/e
within a week the effort to do 1 easy will be trivial
then you can move on to doing B75, increase it 2 LC/week etc
rain patio
how long do you guys usually struggle before just seeing the solution? for harder problems like mediums
rotund breach
i give myself 30minutes but some people say 20
rain patio
How you doing with hards?
paper basalt
You know what’s boring? Pushing carts at Target
lost ether
Get a blackboard and dry erase marker to practice as well 👀
rotund breach
I've done very few hards if I'm being honest
But some of them are about as difficult as a select amount of mediums
thats bizarre
paper basalt
Yeah like I haven’t written any code this morning, just researching 5 questions my manager posed
rotund breach
damn I should take leetcode more seriously then
prisma flax
I always see the solution after 30-45 mins
I would keep the timer so that i don’t waste time
I would have done it without looking for solution but i was doing a speed-run for interview, so basically see which approach and depends on time frame
paper basalt
Watching guys like William Lin is something , just years of practice
He’s solved something like 2000 problems
prisma flax
I believe most people max out around 200
rotund breach
currently looking into psych research literature im actually very curious
prisma flax
Yes 200 questions
rotund breach
bc this applies to the entire discpline of coding, chess etc any skill
this would be interesting to read about
prisma flax
Its total of 700+ episodes
jaunty basalt
Yes I can google too 
green chasm
you know that tiktok trend where they’re like “if he wanted to he would”
I wondar what happens if I refuse and say If you what me set up an interview with an actual person haha
rain patio
what would guys consider a good resume worthy project, as you guys can see by my user name, I need to step up my game.
rotund breach
apache spark / kafka ETL pipeline
hoary oracle
Hey there. I just took the Amazon Online Assessment a few days ago, which had 2 coding questions. I did the first one pretty fast, however, I couldn't pass all the tests on the second one. I panicked after 30min of trying and I made it too complicated, so I ended up passing 8/15 test cases. Do I still have a chance of moving on to an interview, or am I pretty much rejected?
rotund breach
what would guys consider a good resume worthy project, as you guys can see by my...
implement multithreaded redis with TTL's in go/c++/scala/java etc
bold pier
Did anyone see Untapped came up with Simplify competitor?
rotund breach
what would guys consider a good resume worthy project, as you guys can see by my...
But what roles are you aiming for?
bleak ocean
Simplify was bugging for me
signal trellis
Simplify was bugging for me
where?
bleak ocean
where?
Attaching my old resume instead of the updated one
Lemme try it again in a bit
chilly burrow
Yes 200 questions
Im at 280
night maple
You only need to do 150 leetcode questions
rain patio
But what roles are you aiming for?
Anything with python would be nice
rain patio
implement multithreaded redis with TTL's in go/c++/scala/java etc
I just think too hard on making something unique and interesting, that won’t need months of work, and whenever I think of something that sounds it has already made before
solemn spire
Im 1 second away from this
signal trellis
Attaching my old resume instead of the updated one
The name will be the same, the resume will be updated
You can always preview it in the dashboard
severe pendant
Hey there. I just took the Amazon Online Assessment a few days ago, which had 2 ...
Is Amazon hiring new grad already?
vital meteor
Is Amazon hiring new grad already?
No
swift falcon
Im 1 second away from this
classic
hoary oracle
Is Amazon hiring new grad already?
I'ts not an entry level job, but I got some research experience in GNNs and web dev
wet jacinth
Just got to 900, pls give job. 
south sable
You only need to do 150 leetcode questions
neetcode 150?
because honestly, i'm not touching LC after I finish the final 5ish I have left
night maple
neetcode 150?
yeah
you don't need to do thousands
unless you enjoy it
if you wanna do it just for job security, don't waste your time
do the popular questions, understand patterns, and you should be setup pretty well for success
these midlevel and senior engineers interviewing you are too busy with their own projects and trying to increase their own TC. They don't care too much to find and understand novel leetcode questions just so they can give you a hard time
im one of them
I stick to 1 problem i know well and ask it every time
vital meteor
I stick to 1 problem i know well and ask it every time
What questiom do you ask
night maple
What questiom do you ask
Basic Calculator 4
obsidian crater
Alien dictionary
south sable
Alien dictionary
guessing off the top of my head but that's topological sort, right?
ah right, was a while ago so wasn't sure
btw still not sure what topological sort actually is
it has to do with a DAG which i remember
night maple
if you do topo sort with kahn's algo, it becomes easy
just do a DFS with an extra conditional, check for in-degree 0
south sable
just do a DFS with an extra conditional, check for in-degree 0
right - basically checking if acyclic
swift falcon
torn stone
I'ts not an entry level job, but I got some research experience in GNNs and web ...
So they are actually hiring external candidates for SDE 1/2?
brave forge
another day of work passed
ebon moat
Another day of unemployment 💯
rain patio
Another day of unemployment 💯
fossil jewel
Just got to 900, pls give job. <:sadge:747169038911930418>
do you struggle with OAs?
rain patio
another day of work passed
Who?
ornate cliff
Any jobs out there
L3Harris Technologies needs to fuck right off
Spamming the same job in every single city
tardy geode
rain patio
another day of work passed
What an accomplishment dude
bold pier
grizzled bronze
For a full-time role?
or internship
Overkill either way, especially for intern too though
Elon Musk wannabes
pulsar mural
yo
bold pier
Ask if rounds are elimination or scores averaged, It's terrible when it's not the latter
obsidian crater
That's common
I've seen anywhere from 4-6 rounds
I had OA, 2 rounds technical, then take home presentation and then 3 more rounds for a job before
Only to get rejected
oh
my bad
6 rounds in one day is nuts
That is what?
7 hours?
nowadays it's zoom onsite
onsite should just be called decision stage or something
JP in the UK calls it it "assessment centre" according to Alterium
Is it though?
Name sounds pretty accurate
Instead of "onsite" but on zoom
unemployment
💀
obsidian crater
fossil jewel
fr praying for @tardy geode
obsidian crater
what's worse
fossil jewel
he been struggling since last august
obsidian crater
when's your OPT start date?
fossil jewel
he finished his masters
tardy geode
theres a prof who i have talked to
fossil jewel
do IT like @rain patio
obsidian crater
I don't get it
fossil jewel
anything to get the clock stopped
obsidian crater
What's so wrong with that screenshot?
fossil jewel
the color green
fossil jewel
hihihihiiihihihi
pulsar mural
fossil jewel
ugly cat
pulsar mural
fossil jewel
fossil jewel
SoFi tho
paper basalt
2022 grads 
fossil jewel
yeah if u struggle with OAs after 900 LC, then u not doing it right
obsidian crater
obsidian crater
What about AWS?
fossil jewel
pulsar mural
obsidian crater
They are not hiring
rain patio
obsidian crater
Tbh I want my hairline still
In all their AWS jobs they list 2-3+ years of Non internship experience
My cousin got her h1b at amazon robotics
wet jacinth
Yeah, cause f those people without exp
grizzled bronze
You got SoFi and now Snowflake though
obsidian crater
The fun part with AWS is I see senior positions right
Open for a few days
0 applicants
obsidian crater
why would amazon hire?
they reneged interns + new grads
surely they'd hire those people first
I mean ng's that got offers in 2022 but got reneged
grizzled bronze
surely they'd hire those people first
No, they need fresh headcount
obsidian crater
true
rotund breach
Did Amazon not post NG yet
obsidian crater
I have insider news
From a certain big job board corp
They are pipping 10% of their workforce
My little bird over there is trying to dip
default job application site
pulsar mural
@obsidian crater
@obsidian crater
@obsidian crater
@obsidian crater
yahkesus
yahkesus
autumn iris
pulsar mural
:peepof:
west egret
@pulsar mural
obsidian crater
I'm talking about LinkedIn
vital meteor
People are delayed to Jan next year, it's joever for the year
pulsar mural
manul on a log
obsidian crater
LI has 22k employees
pulsar mural
rught here
obsidian crater
I think
rotund breach
holy fk things are bad
obsidian crater
21K
grizzled bronze
rotund breach
Nice pickles
bold pier
I think the fries also need linkedin logo
rotund breach
Why did you want to learn c++ btw lol
obsidian crater
Don't move to Canada ew
Yahkuna lives there
Are you trying to get mugged by him?
distant pebble
U already r the king of Toronto