they aren’t doing metaverse those
#2023_grads
swift falcon
oh
fossil jewel
apple has a knack for amazing marketing tbh
swift falcon
i mean they were talking abt meetings and shit with facetime
and how you get an AI avatar and shit
swift falcon
maybe im just a 108 low iq dweeb
but it seemed pretty cool
and like I get the battery life
at least it’s not some 20kg backpack
swift falcon
it looks polished af
no controllers
idk 🤷♂️ would make my life a lot better
I could sit in my living room and get some sun instead of in basement at my battle station lol
fossil jewel
i like my iphone tbh
verbal ore
Too gimmicky to be useful
verbal ore
VR to be disney consoomer and lazy in your room all day
swift falcon
how is that any different than what i normally do
bold pier
my s7 got really slow after a 2 years
I've never had mob slow down on me,
rn I'm using 2 year old Samsung and 5 yeor old oneplus, neither have slowed down a bit
cloud zinc
I lost my old notes for a system design course
any resources to prep for a sys design interview as much as possible?
prime palm
any resources to prep for a sys design interview as much as possible?
i bought the grokking sys des course on design gurus
that helped a lot
cloud zinc
real question: is software architecture the same as system design in terms of "high-level design" of a software system?
Asides from deeper knowledge of xyz, they both cover important concepts like load balancers, storage and databases, right?
bold pier
Might be too advanced for entry level, but it also includes Design Patterns
brave forge
Bruhh first day of being an SWE intern was insane
I got free food, got a new MacBook, got a dual monitor and standing desk setup, got to meet my mentor, played trivia and knowledge games in teams, took a tour around their giant offices, learned about the company and the finance work they do, just damn it was long
Tomorrow is another long day setting up all the IT and the code base
fossil jewel
I got free food, got a new MacBook, got a dual monitor and standing desk setup, ...
damn bro cool ass place
brave forge
Ya man they went above and beyond with making our first day awesome
fossil jewel
love it
brave forge
It’s really my first time at a proper SWE place and it is like way better then any job I could of imagined
fossil jewel
yeah FT vs internship is diff
brave forge
Hmm looks cool being a FT
At least at this place and how they described it
They are looking to bring back a bunch of people as FT and expanding a ton so I got high hopes this works out
Their offices looking goood
Shamrock trading
swift falcon
damn congrats
brave forge
Not rly a big name it’s just way better then I expected
I’m just going to workout at their gym till I get picked up
Also this guy is an alt of someone that’s banned for being weird af and hates me cause I got him banned
swift falcon
@brave forge so do you have an office or a cubicle or what? I need to live vicariously through you.
split plaza
is leetcode down for anyone else
elder narwhal
Yeah same
wicked birch
its down the one day i felt like doing leetcode lmao
south sable
its down the day i decided to stop doing leetcode lmao
south sable
is leetcode down for anyone else
seems to be working now
brave forge
<@317762557211312138> so do you have an office or a cubicle or what? I need to l...
Cubicle, standing desk and dual 1440p monitors and a headset
I sit right behind my mentor
Man you’ll get it this is like literally unreal I’ve been grinding code since I was 16 and I’m 20 now
Grind isn’t really over but at least it’s good motivation to keep going
grizzled bronze
#2024_grads is out
swift falcon
where’s the list
cloud zinc
I'm honestly upset with how my university partitioned system design in my curriculum.
cloud zinc
Earlier, I was freaking out because I didn't take a course on designing computer systems. But as it turns out, that course that I didn't take was nothing more than learning C. As for the TRUE system design course, they decided to cram both design and architecture in one. The name of that course, is Software System Requirements and Architecture.
wet jacinth
I'm also upset that we have #2024_grads now.
obsidian crater
over for us lol
cloud zinc
wasted so much time scrambling to find sys design notes when they already exist
sleek owl
over for us lol
GG
cloud zinc
did you go to RIT as well?
narrow harbor
sick got the rejection email first beofe the thanks for applying lol
split igloo
My bud in SF is struggling gettin a SWE job. Given the fact that he's 3 times ex-FANNG intern + domestic student.
Market is def shit now
cloud zinc
my cousin made the smart decision to switch into robotics
obsidian crater
who's the alt?
geralt is my gym bro 10x dev
he spots me when I go for PRs
principal engineer at hashicorp
benches 250lbs without arch
strong af
bold pier
geralt of rivia?
brave forge
who's the alt?
oh it's in #full_timers i replied ot a message
brave forge
Long thai is the Dianysis Returns
That's why it's "returns" and why he is after me lmao
obsidian crater
Wait
hoary fern
what about ppl w 0 intern exp
obsidian crater
Dionsyus Returns is my gym bro irl
brave forge
does he work for an insurance company and is from thailand?
brave forge
sure
radiant python
where do yall search for jobs
hoary fern
where do yall search for jobs
craigslist
radiant python
his list is too long
oblique wasp
IXL and L3 harris will keep hiring till the end of the time
obsidian crater
IXL isn't hiring
Also Idk if L3Harris is actually hiring because they ghost every app of mine
hoary fern
ixl is shit
obsidian crater
why
rain patio
Haven’t heard of anyone getting ixl in a good min
grizzled bronze
L3 just posted a lot of apps today
Too bad defense is against my morals
raw plank
On their site for entry level software
Across the country
What’s wrong with embedded?
ornate cliff
what's the blackrock OA like?
obsidian crater
standard OA stuff
south sable
i don't get the video component tho
like what it is or what the question is?
ornate cliff
like what it is or what the question is?
yeah like is it technical or behavioural...
from what I'm reading you record yourself describing how you solved the 2 technical questions, and then it's judged by a human... kinda odd
obsidian crater
yeah like is it technical or behavioural...
It's 2 LC problems and one behavioral question
The question I got was "Why do you want to work for BlackRock?"
obsidian crater
You don't have to explain stuff
ornate cliff
Sweet
obsidian crater
The video question is just why you wanna work there
delicate sigil
Can you suggest a group where we can find career fair conferences like Grace Hopper Conferernce, etc?
I am not sure of how to search for the upcoming conferences...
fallen fox
from what I'm reading you record yourself describing how you solved the 2 techni...
the oa is proctoted anyway
full video + microphone
crimson stump
Hey guys which is the best website to find 2023 new grad postings?
fallen fox
2023 ng is over
brave forge
Welcome to 2024 everyone !!!
crimson stump
You guys saying they stopped recruiting new grads for 2023?
I just graduated last month and am looking for a full time job as an international student. Nothing seems to be working now. What's my best bet?
fallen fox
You guys saying they stopped recruiting new grads for 2023?
yeah it's over
2023 ng pretty much ended last year in october/november
timber rock
crimson stump
But I'll have to find a job before October this year!
fallen fox
look for volunteer roles or reach out to your university for research roles or anything related to your degree
crimson stump
Yeah I'm planning to do that but it's hard to pay bills without a job. So if l apply for 2024 when is the earliest I can start working?
fallen fox
Jan 2024
you should be applying to everything - ng 2024 and current listings for 2023 on linkedin etc as well
crimson stump
yeah but most of em in linked need experience and they ain't hiring new grads rn smh.
fallen fox
apply anyway; worst that can happen is they reject you
a startup got back to me for a 5 y.o.e role 
crimson stump
Yeah riding on luck for now. To sustain 6 more months without a job I'm gonna have to live on the streets. Tough times 😖
fallen fox
same situation and i'm working at IT for the time being
obviously doesn't pay as much as swe but enough to survive lol
crimson stump
Yea just gotta wait for sometime for things to get better. Is the LinkedIn quick apply option any good or a waste of time?
fallen fox
ideally you should find the listing on the company's website and apply from there
rain thicket
LinkedIn doesn't have ng offer listed over there
Even I'm looking for a new job too
ornate cliff
anyone doing neetcode roadmap for fun?
crimson stump
ideally you should find the listing on the company's website and apply from ther...
Okay
timber rock
anyone doing neetcode roadmap for fun?
That’s not my idea of fun
crimson stump
anyone doing neetcode roadmap for fun?
I'm currently doing arrays and hashing
Not for fun though lol
Cuz my ass is on fire and I need a job lol
pine topaz
anyone doing neetcode roadmap for fun?
Meee
ornate cliff
Sent referal
!process Lockheed Martin offer ❤️
cerulean basinBOT
You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_fall_intern_process, 2023_grad_process
solemn kite
But I'll have to find a job before October this year!
Hey im in the same situation. Dont lose hope. New grad opening for small companies dont really have a set "season" - they'll keep opening up. Just keep an eye out on every website you can think of, and try to get referrals.
crimson stump
Hey im in the same situation. Dont lose hope. New grad opening for small compani...
Yeah I'm using LinkedIn and indeed right now. Hope something works out. Good luck!
ornate cliff
Isn't the founder of this server in Uber? Can one of the mods ask him if they plan on hiring new grads 😂
spare hinge
But I'll have to find a job before October this year!
I am in the same situation too
hushed mortar
Has anyone interviewed with Moderna for SDE role?
crimson stump
I am in the same situation too
What are you planning to do?
ornate cliff
What I will buy with my first paycheck as a new grad
spare hinge
What are you planning to do?
secured something unpaid at my university for now. I am still applying but hardly getting interviews
crimson stump
secured something unpaid at my university for now. I am still applying but hardl...
Same here. Losing motivation to even apply nowadays 😏
urban gulch
anyone doing neetcode roadmap for fun?
For fun? No. For 💰? Yes ||but tbh no||
hoary fern
anyone doing neetcode roadmap for fun?
whats this
ornate cliff
whats this
swift falcon
What I will buy with my first paycheck as a new grad
unironically yea
umbral plover
anyone here doing the kp fellowship this year?
autumn jolt
Same here. Losing motivation to even apply nowadays 😏
I don't even see a lot of roles for less than 3 years of exp folks 
woven berry
Yeah the time to apply to 2023 roles was late last year and earlier this year
now theyre scarce
But I dont apply to swe, Im a cyber dude
fresh mango
secured something unpaid at my university for now. I am still applying but hardl...
How'd you go about that? Do they take your OPT and work w it?
swift falcon
has anybody had any luck going through handshake recruiters?
like are they worth engaging?
im thinking of adding one that’s “early career talent acquisition” on linkedin
bold pier
Just do it, what's there to lose
fresh mango
Handshake jobs seem like a scam tbh, they don’t reply
obsidian crater
same situation and i'm working at IT for the time being
Can you refer me to conduent father
fresh mango
Don’t even send rejects
I only know of economic majors who actually use it and have found something
Nothing for tech/eng tho
fresh mango
anyone here have any idea how those university sw eng positions hire? I looked at some uni’s and they’re all looking for engineers. My uni chickened out and said they don’t sponsor.
Just gimme an opt letter and let me build your website 😭🫡
fallen fox
Can you refer me to conduent father <:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:1014352624335728760...
i can try
swift falcon
Just do it, what's there to lose
ill shall do it with your blessing thank you 
whole berry
all these illegals taking my canadian jobs /s
spare hinge
How'd you go about that? Do they take your OPT and work w it?
afaik unpaid work qualifies as OPT
fallen fox
USCIS mfers don't verify shit if you're on opt, you can put in sucide bomber and still legally stay in the us
pine topaz
suffering from success
fallen fox
won't qualify for future immigration though if they look at your profile
but you can stay until your opt ends
obsidian crater
USCIS mfers don't verify shit if you're on opt, you can put in sucide bomber and...
lmao
whole berry
had this happen to me
insane shit lol
not for a tech role it was for consultancy so maybe thats why
rain patio
Man i hope this fall is better than last year
prisma flax
Maybe they heavily asked about the snowflake, I don't have experience using that ( although was told it was nice to have not a deal breaker)
they already had a candidate I guess ( closed the role next day after my call got scheduled )
faint umbra
When three grad channels are still there, you know how shit things are right now. People hoping that things will get better, no this thing is going to stay, this is the new norm.
whole berry
When three grad channels are still there, you know how shit things are right now...
this
no more copium in here man
swift falcon
Maybe they heavily asked about the snowflake, I don't have experience using that...
sheesh
what a waste of your time
they wanted their cake and to eat it too
prisma flax
I don't think I would be able to find a job
delicate lantern
If I plan to do a masters starting in spring, can I apply to the fall internships?
tawdry jewel
This is out of the blue, but here are all the technical interview questions I just got for a remote developer position
C#:
"what are circular references in c#"
"define accessibility modifiers protected and internal"
"how to prevent a class from being inherited"
"explain serialization"
ReactJS:
"what is react"
"what are some limitations in react"
"What is a state in react"
"what is the react router"
SQL:
explain constraints in sql
what is a primary key
explain stored procedures
Anyone else get fooled by TriNet? The listing was just posted on LinkedIn, but after I filled out my work experience and hit submit it says "You can't submit your application because this job is no longer available" 
tawdry jewel
i got wrecked by the c# questions as I wasn't aware the interview was technical (it was implied in the email it was to talk about my experience and the position so 💀)
so iwas fully unprepared there
react and sql i fared far better in
but this is a heads up that you may indeed get asked literal definitions of terms in interviews, so if you go all out on memorizing the traversal and balancing of a BST and the reversal of a LinkedList, but aren't too rounded on definitions, better start now too
swift falcon
these are interesting, I wonder if my answers would be correct
swift falcon
what did you say for the c# ones @tawdry jewel
whole berry
i got wrecked by the c# questions as I wasn't aware the interview was technical ...
same thing happened to me, they wanted to talk about my resume and it was actually a panel interview and i got fucked so hard
rain patio
"You don't have 10 yoe as a college new grad? INSTA REJECT!!!!111"
fr how tf do new grads get jobs smh
tawdry jewel
what did you say for the c# ones <@420741085925736459>
bro 3 of them I straight up admitted I couldn't answer off the bat, but am a quick learner, but I paraphrased that three times
rain patio
I'm in that awkward middle ground between intern level and junior level
tawdry jewel
i more or less got the access modifiers cause I've worked with those before
tawdry jewel
fr how tf do new grads get jobs smh
so a HUGE part of this is searching way beforehand for the "New Grad" programs
i graduated last May, but I landed the full time position that I would start in June back in October 2022 after 3 months of some interviews (3 total: HR, Technical, Soft-skill)
these are the positions lookign explicitly for students about to graduate, and are the best bet for, as the name suggests, new graduates
rain patio
these are the positions lookign explicitly for students about to graduate, and a...
thank god lol
rain patio
i graduated last May, but I landed the full time position that I would start in ...
ONLY 3 INTERVIEWS!?
broooo
that's awesome
this gives me hope
tawdry jewel
yeee there's a huge variety in how companies do hiring process
tawdry jewel
the internship i had last year for 3 months, the hiring process was literally one 30-min, 3-panel interview focusing mainly on soft skills
west egret
My interview process for FT was 5 interviews. There’s definitely a lot of variance between companies.
tawdry jewel
mass layoff, 3 months ago
rain patio
OOOF
west egret
My internship process with Workday was just 2 interviews
tawdry jewel
I currently store all my applications in a spreadsheet lemme pull my stats
west egret
One easy medium leetcode and chill behavioral
delicate lantern
If I plan to do a masters starting in spring, can I apply to the fall internships?
tawdry jewel
i was laid off feb 2023, fully began job searching a month later
rain patio
Do new grad jobs care about side projects? Or do they just give you an OA and interview you if you do well on the OA?
rich prairie
Someone please tell me what OA stands for?
rain patio
online assessment
rich prairie
ty
rain patio
coding challenge thingy
west egret
Do new grad jobs care about side projects? Or do they just give you an OA and in...
Resume screen gets you the OA sometimes
rain patio
Resume screen gets you the OA sometimes
hmm ok
west egret
Yesterday
grizzled bronze
Someone please tell me what OA stands for?
Overachiever
rich prairie
i took one yesterday, it was ok, but fully automated after the application
west egret
I got free nitro from epic
rich prairie
ebic
west egret
Might as well use the free boost lol
tawdry jewel
from march to now
~400 applications
14 interviews
3 moved to a technical assessment
2 of which I got wrecked (why do i need to traverse a weighted graph to be a full stack dev screw off lol)
1 of which I nailed smoothly, but the position was revealed late to be 100% on-site in NJ (pay was low and no relocation, so I went against)
I might be getting an offer for an interview I just had earlier today tho
as a contractor application engineer
rich prairie
me reading that and having no idea what a weighted graph is
but fr thats fucked
on the NJ one
sorry bro
rain patio
From march to now (May 2023 new grad with 0 experience 😭 )
300+ applications
3 interviews
0 went past first round due to lack of experience
FML
tawdry jewel
From march to now (May 2023 new grad with 0 experience 😭 )
300+ applications
3 ...
you working on any side stuff?
or have very notable projects from college?
rain patio
Yeah, I'm trying to make some projects to make up for lack of experience
Current resume is trash lmao. I have a calculator app, a spell checker, and a basic website
west egret
From march to now (May 2023 new grad with 0 experience 😭 )
300+ applications
3 ...
Were the first interviews LC based or behavioral?
rain patio
Should I focus on leetcode or projects? Or both?
tawdry jewel
one project i worked on for about 2 weeks was a converter site that translates HEX (0x000000) to MIPS assembly code, hosted live on netlify
rain patio
Were the first interviews LC based or behavioral?
All behavioral. They all asked me if I had any industry experience, but they sounded disappointed when I explained that I didn't. Did they even read my resume lol?
tawdry jewel
i also have a full stack app i still maintain that is in react/postgres
west egret
Basically if you didn’t start applying by Sept 2022 for 2023 NG it was going to be hella rough
tawdry jewel
Basically if you didn’t start applying by Sept 2022 for 2023 NG it was going to ...
precisely yeah
you gotta play the long game
rain patio
ok cool
tawdry jewel
I'd say spend more time on leetcode, but absolutely work on something on the side
rain patio
The nice part of new grad 2024 is I'll have a ton of time to do interviews if I get them. Meanwhile, 2024 grads will be focusing on school and stuff
tawdry jewel
the interview that went well earlier today explicitly asked me "so what are you doing now?"
west egret
All behavioral. They all asked me if I had any industry experience, but they sou...
Prob not. Engineers just get assigned applicants. I doubt they spend much time to prep info on you.
tawdry jewel
and i was able to answer that im working front-end on my portfolio site and doing some scripting for an old unity game I started years ago
oh and leetcode
cant forget that
rain patio
"I'm working at a buffet and hating life"
rich prairie
the interview that went well earlier today explicitly asked me "so what are you ...
performing independent learning and aggressive self study in the leetuniverse
rain patio
Fr my situation is like one of those stories you hear about college kids graduating with a useless degree and having to work at McDonalds or something
swift falcon
Fr my situation is like one of those stories you hear about college kids graduat...
bro same
rain patio
Except I graduated with a cs degree...
swift falcon
an MS in CS
rain patio
Even english degree holders are making more money than I am
tawdry jewel
Current resume is trash lmao. I have a calculator app, a spell checker, and a ba...
tailor your resume a bit to match the positions
rain patio
ewwwwww I got called by revature, but screw that place. It's a scam for sure. I talked to people who passed their 3 month training program, and they just got laid off because Revature can't find anyone jobs in this crap economy
tawdry jewel
i was an undergrad researcher for 1.5 yrs while at college, but all my work was in unity c# development, so eventually I changed the title to software engineer since my responibilities and duties were pretty much that
revature isnt a scam, but it's to be your absolutely 100% LAST resort
if you're extremely desperate and will like, be evicted soon
swift falcon
it basically is a scam
rich prairie
smh
swift falcon
the contract is bullshit
tawdry jewel
youre better off movingback in with parents than going to revature
swift falcon
imagine having to pay $40k because you ducked out early
rain patio
yeah lol
tawdry jewel
imagine having to pay $40k because you ducked out early
i saw that, that shit is rough like bruh
rain patio
Revature pays worse than my buffet job too. Their training is minimum wage
tawdry jewel
okay ill correct myself; it's essentially a scam 💀
swift falcon
the only way I could see it working is if you have 0 dependents and are willing to live in squalor for 2 years
like no life basically
rain patio
Yeah screw Revature
tawdry jewel
also make sure you have strogn examples for the typical soft interview questions
things like "example of when you had to deal with a dispute with coworker", "how you handled a catastrophic or equal setback that was detriment to the project progress", etc
i had some horrible, deplorable experiences working in some groups back in college
but the best part is I can smoothly explain that bullcrap in the most professional sounding manner of how I dealt with it
obsidian crater
I don't think you have to actually pay revature
tawdry jewel
I don't think you have to actually pay revature
You do if you leave before set contract
obsidian crater
true that
fallen fox
You do if you leave before set contract
that non complete is not legally valid
it's mostly there to stop younger/inexperienced people from leaving; using them as slaves
raw plank
Nice try recruiter
fallen fox
tawdry jewel
That's true, but it's terrifying
obsidian crater
He works at my high tech startup based in NYC called DN
tawdry jewel
Any company going out of there way to put that ain't one you really want to work for
fallen fox
joining a company like revature is a death sentence if you're on OPT and have few remaining unemployment days
they will abuse the shit out of that since you can't leave them otherwise you will get deported
obsidian crater
True
raw plank
He works at my high tech startup based in NYC called DN
What’s NYC
tawdry jewel
New York city
raw plank
obsidian crater
New Yahkesus City
tawdry jewel
Yes
tawdry jewel
What’s NYC
You'll remember asking this question for the rest of your life
obsidian crater
At DN we build a meme platform
It allows you to share memes at ultra low latency
We only hire ex Quant
prisma flax
well in this market they might be getting lot of students
tawdry jewel
Good
obsidian crater
Give students jobs
tawdry jewel
Save the students
prisma flax
heard about getajob ?
obsidian crater
No
tawdry jewel
What's a job
obsidian crater
Is it good?
tawdry jewel
They're so rare, I don't remember what they look like
prisma flax
No idea, but they are spamming me a lot
just charge somewhere in 3-5k$ (in the name of some interview prep training) and help you get a job
tawdry jewel
Rip
Bro I had an Angular developer position that after passing the interview, I was given a coding project in Angular/Java Spring to build out a full stack module
Spent 2 days worth of time on it, submit it
Next morning, "Oh sorry the position isn't available anymore so we are halting all code reviews and interviews"
I don't mind that, what I was annoyed at
Is they won't even look at my project to give feedback
obsidian crater
I hate take homes lol
oblique wasp
it's mostly there to stop younger/inexperienced people from leaving; using them ...
Antra did the same to me. That's why I never opted to work with them
tawdry jewel
It was the first time I worked on a project with both Angular and Spring Boot
But it worked
And they don't even look at it :c
fallen fox
Antra did the same to me. That's why I never opted to work with them
a lot of consulting firms do that sadly
prisma flax
I had a slack written interview, it's weird messaging process
tawdry jewel
I had a slack written interview, it's weird messaging process
Written interview?
whole berry
I had a slack written interview, it's weird messaging process
let em talk to chatgpt
tawdry jewel
That's a bit fishy...
Btw be wary of scam recruiters reaching out to you, biggest red flag of this is if the email asks you to replay YES or something and it's like Dear Applicant
Those then follow up with the "interview" which is a document of actually good interview questions (soft usually), which you answer by email
They say they're forwarding your responses to the Hiring Board and will be in touch. A few days later, congrats you got the job! Fully remote with good pay
But the catch is due to "vendor issued", you'll have to purchase the equipment from their provided vendor and they'll reimburse you to set up your home office
You get no equipment, and the check they send is fake
Gg ez rekt
I was in the middle of falling for one and was at the point of the offer letter
prisma flax
I got it from a legitimate company I guess, atleast they email domain matches with the company and the messages are through slack
tawdry jewel
After doing some digging over uncertainty. I found the exact situation on reddit. I then asked the "recruiter" some neutral questions phrased out of curiousity but intending to confirm some things, and verified it was the scam aforementioned
tawdry jewel
I got it from a legitimate company I guess, atleast they email domain matches wi...
If email domain matches, you SHOULD be good
99%
prisma flax
companies are getting weirder day by day
tawdry jewel
"We are family"
Project drought occurs
I don't want to play with you anymore
teal canopy
i got an offer for 70k + 2.5k relocation package in costa mesa area.
would it be enough to live there comfortably?
swift falcon
Bro I had an Angular developer position that after passing the interview, I was ...
is this a state govt job by chance?
tawdry jewel
is this a state govt job by chance? <:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:1014352624335728760...
Nuhuh, it was internal for a moderately-small devsecops consulting firm
oblique wasp
I was in the middle of falling for one and was at the point of the offer letter
+1
Exact same process that you described
rich prairie
welcome to LA
teal canopy
hmmm okay
rich prairie
whats the job title?
teal canopy
software engineer
rich prairie
70k???
teal canopy
yea
rich prairie
🤨
teal canopy
i know its low af
humble heart
better than $0
rich prairie
true
teal canopy
but im an international so didn't have much option
teal canopy
ig
rich prairie
its a decent area
teal canopy
i live in boston rn. how's the cost of living compared to it?
rich prairie
i just turned down a 64K FT IT job because its not gonna help me in the SWE field at all
teal canopy
rly? thought it would be higher
rich prairie
it is higher and lower, depends on what you spend money on
CA has generally high income taxes, gas, food, etc. costs
but you're coming from another high cost of living state
so pretty avg
teal canopy
hmm i see
rich prairie
id just prepare for the general price shock of sales tax and retail costs
obsidian crater
Get ready for $6 gas
obsidian crater
bro you're in Cali
rich prairie
my sales tax is 10.25%
obsidian crater
you can't walk anywhere
rich prairie
i leave near LA
teal canopy
i mean it can't be that bad rite? i don't go out a lot
rich prairie
yea youll be fine if you're not a big spender tbh
obsidian crater
you mean everywhere?
rich prairie
yeah CA taxes are fun
obsidian crater
everywhere that's dine in
rich prairie
we have a screen tax
obsidian crater
wtf
rich prairie
a bottle tax (common)
obsidian crater
what is a screen tax
rich prairie
the gas tax is nuts
teal canopy
jesus
rich prairie
AHAHAH I LOVE EXPLAINING THE SCREEN T AX
HANG ON
there ya go
its actually not that bad
obsidian crater
bruh
rich prairie
still funny tho
teal canopy
yea
rich prairie
add that to sales tax
obsidian crater
Cali taxes for what lol
teal canopy
is this for the environment saving thing
obsidian crater
What benefits does Cali gov give citizens
rich prairie
they use it to fund ewaste programs
rich prairie
What benefits does Cali gov give citizens
no comment...
obsidian crater
$1 million homes?
teal canopy
and i thought they called MA taxachusetts lmao
rich prairie
i hated working retail and having to explain that people need to budget in tax
it sucks people buy a 900$ item
and they get a 1000+ bill
obsidian crater
jesus
tawdry jewel
i just turned down a 64K FT IT job because its not gonna help me in the SWE fiel...
64k hell nah
obsidian crater
I thought New York was bad
tawdry jewel
What benefits does Cali gov give citizens
Unemployment is nice I guess
obsidian crater
sales tax here is 4%
tawdry jewel
Benefits I mean
rich prairie
there's a reason CA and NY are viewed as the least business friendly, most hyper litigous states in the country
Farmers insurance just issued notice that they flat out will not do any business in CA anymore
think about that
rich prairie
major national carrier saying they are refusing to work in the biggest state with more than 10% of population because of how bad laws are
really says something
tawdry jewel
Where to go if I want to stay in west coast but not deal with CA CoL
rich prairie
nowhere really
tawdry jewel
There's WA but it's gloomy af
rich prairie
OR and WA are just microchosims of the same thing happening here
rich prairie
theres a reason a bunch of counties in Oregon are literally trying to get Idaho to annex them
im just saying
tawdry jewel
But it's fresno
tawdry jewel
Fair enough
obsidian crater
$$$$$ tho still
rich prairie
depends on work situation
yeah it's still sorta a part of the LA Metropol area
still i think LA is better than SF
SF appears to have achieved a whole other level of chaos
good
obsidian crater
tbh remote work is best
obsidian crater
^
I hate companies that force you to work hybrid/in person and be in expensive af areas
tawdry jewel
SF makes 6 figure salary look like poverty in there
rich prairie
i know a SWE who banks big $ and literally said he would never move to SF even for a 500K paycheck
and good for him
obsidian crater
I'd probably move for 500K
rich prairie
id go there only as a last resort
tawdry jewel
Also yes the sheer amount of on-site or hybrid roles in SF for SWE ohmygod
rich prairie
I'd probably move for 500K
probably same
but id live far
and cry while commuting
👍
obsidian crater
At 500K bro you can probably buy a house
tawdry jewel
I'll only go to SF for like conventions or something idk
oblique wasp
Why tf does every f**ing company wants React?
I see JS and React requirement in more than 60% of the jobs I apply!!!
obsidian crater
JS is the most popular language
timber rock
because its good
rich prairie
At 500K bro you can probably buy a house
yeeee
obsidian crater
React is the most popular JS library
tawdry jewel
Why tf does every f**ing company wants React?
I see JS and React requirement in ...
It's funny because over 90% the market share of web applications use jquery
Yet you'll see react on most JDs
True but it's going down so slowly
tawdry jewel
Why tf does every f**ing company wants React?
I see JS and React requirement in ...
What job title are you applying to?
General swe?
oblique wasp
because its good
I understand. But even the general SDE roles want it
Like, sometimes I see it even in testing roles
tawdry jewel
To be fair most descriptions list the stack you might work in
You don't need it all
(But react isn't that hard to get good grasp of)
oblique wasp
SWE, SDE roles
Just normal Software Developer roles. No front end specific
tawdry jewel
Some SDET roles use Jest with React
oblique wasp
Yes!
They write "Familiarity with JavaScript and FE frameworks React is a plus"
oblique wasp
I swear!
Any good resource in your mind?
tawdry jewel
It's tye same way that having 5+ years experience is "a plus" for entry levels
Not absolutely needed but a huge advantage if you have it already
tawdry jewel
mf ur not entry level at that point
Ohbyoull be surprised :'c
oblique wasp
mf ur not entry level at that point
😆
tawdry jewel
I gotta find that job posting I found once
rich prairie
btw the "mf" was not for YOU, im just saying it for these hirers
tawdry jewel
Tagged as "Entry Level" on LI
rich prairie
Ohbyoull be surprised :'c
😭
tawdry jewel
10+ years IT experience
rich prairie
**10+ years IT experience**
grizzled bronze
The future is here
tawdry jewel
https://tenor.com/view/neverseenagain-yourleaving-oh-no-he-gif-10093833
actually, i found the image i posted
grizzled bronze
That's LinkedIn's fault for incorrectly tagging it as entry, it's not an entry level role. Also this is sourced from a job board and those are often spammy and inaccurate.
tawdry jewel
That's LinkedIn's fault for incorrectly tagging it as entry, it's not an entry l...
still a massive tear jerker
tawdry jewel
no yeah i am blaming the poster
rich prairie
had an interview as a result of one of those issues
guy got upset that i didnt have any secret experience i didnt list on my resume
and was like
tawdry jewel
guy got upset that i didnt have any secret experience i didnt list on my resume
i hate those bruhh
tawdry jewel
so many roles wanting secret clearance
there were literal game developer roles needing secret clearance
im sorry am i developing minecraft where the blocks are nuclear launch codes or wtf
tawdry jewel
he job i interviewed earlier today and am waiing back will need me to get a public trust clearance
today was an interesting day
in the morning, had a "technical interview" that was not too technical and went very very well
followed afternoon by a different position interview that was implied to be introductory call but went straight into god damn technical questions i was not prepared for
obsidian crater
public trust is just a background check
you don't even need to be a citizen to get one
oblique wasp
Job poster: What are the tech stack requirements?
Manager: List down everything you know
Job poster: 🫡
swift falcon
Hi <early career recruiter>,
I just wanted to connect and see if you had any time available to meet with me? I am interested in pursuing a career with <awesome company> and would love to hear about any available software development opportunities, or even just chat about what would make me stand out as a candidate in the future.
Thanks,
Big Pierre```
what do u guys think of thisconnecting with recrooter
too syrupy?
coral finch
anyone have visa interview today?
would name and shame this company, terrible experience and 🥜
static quarry
would name and shame this company, terrible experience and 🥜
yeah lowkey i feel like the second question they asked was harder than what people normally get
its fine tho 110k in cali is like minimum wage
id rather work at a buffet than live in cali
static quarry
@rain patio referral for buffet job?
brave forge
@rain patio what is the buffet job TC
rich prairie
im
im sussed out rn
apply for a job
and they send an email asking for a in person interview
like an hour later
rich prairie
eeeeeeh
rich prairie
its a decent size company, like not small, but also not a "big tech" firm
but their primary business is like consulting on system implementation
not software eng
yknow like their clients are other big companies
not average people
woven berry
I see, I mean an opportunity is an opportunity
rich prairie
just very weirded out by their speed and intention as it sends weird vibes
of desperation
"too easy"
raises my eyebrow
woven berry
true, I do feel that too. lol yeah when somethings too good to be true, it probably is
rich prairie
that's what im sayin
woven berry
Maybe someone in this server has had an experience with that company?
would be like finding a needle in a haystack tho, I feel
rich prairie
i ghosted a job that was advertised as a Broadcast Sys Eng
interviewed and found out it was in fact a SysAdmin role for a media archival application/service they use at the news channel
their interview was 1 question "tell me abt yourself" and like "tell me about a project" then 30 mins of talking about the job desc and giving me an offer
uhh
its coming from their internal ICIMS email
woven berry
I always feel like when an interview is too easy, the offer is gonna be super low 😭
rich prairie
reading their reviews it seems like they underpay SWE ppl
it's legit, just found the HR person on linkedin
from their signature
swift falcon
and they send an email asking for a in person interview
im tryna be like you m’boi
rich prairie
rich prairie
theyre gonna see you viewed their profile
lmao they got the linkedin gold
smh
they know
its too late
if they ask ima just say "just researching the company maam"
sue me
woven berry
Lmao true, I did that mistake once
hardy hinge
anyone have a clue about staffing agency called vertisystem?
woven berry
woven berry
what are they gonna do, be mad?
fair enough, I just personally dont like doing it lol
swift falcon
tbh i might just do it so that people remember me
scorned by some hiring manager? keep tapping their profile every couple weeks
woven berry
not even one? maybe they saw at least one thing
woven berry
I mean some stuff youll probably learn on the job
rich prairie
ofc
tawdry jewel
https://gyazo.com/7d72c2f65cd8bd22d5fa9cf91e380fab
Would recommend co figuring your resume to talk about more of what you accomplished instead of your general duties
rich prairie
yeah i just did that recently with some major help from someone else
tawdry jewel
Nice
When it comes down to deciding who to interview, a resume that just listed generic duties can be huge turnoffs
woven berry
trueeeeeeeeeeee
swift falcon
bro im so sick of these goal posts
might as well have a lottery system
anybody not employed gets ubi
rain patio
<@456226577798135808> what is the buffet job TC
Yeah fuck the software industry. I'm capable and know how to write code. Where's my fucking job smh
brave forge
Yeah fuck the software industry. I'm capable and know how to write code. Where's...
do u know what TC means
rain patio
Yeh lol
static quarry
I need referral
delicate lantern
This is a 3 sum question can someone help with what I'm doing wrong
class Solution(object):
def threeSum(self, nums):
sset = set(nums)
i, l, r = 0 ,1, len(nums) - 1
nums = sorted(nums)
res = []
sset = set()
print(nums)
while(i < r):
while(l < r):
val = nums[i] + nums[l] + nums[r]
print(nums[i], nums[l], nums[r])
if(val > 0):
r -= 1
elif(val < 0):
l += 1
else:
ans = tuple([nums[i], nums[l], nums[r]])
if(ans in sset):
l +=1
sset.add(ans)
i+=1
l = i+1
r = len(nums) - 1
return list(sset)
"""
:type nums: List[int]
:rtype: List[List[int]]
"""
obsidian crater
What is wrong?
obsidian crater
Oh I think it's the outer while
delicate lantern
output limit exceeded
obsidian crater
i < r but r changes
delicate lantern
ah time limit exceeded
obsidian crater
I think you want to do i < len(nums) - 2
class Solution:
def threeSum(self, nums: List[int]) -> List[List[int]]:
res = []
nums.sort()
for i, a in enumerate(nums):
if i > 0 and a == nums[i - 1]:
continue
l, r = i + 1, len(nums) - 1
while l < r:
threeSum = a + nums[l] + nums[r]
if threeSum > 0:
r -= 1
elif threeSum < 0:
l += 1
else:
res.append([a, nums[l], nums[r]])
l += 1
while nums[l] == nums[l - 1] and l < r:
l += 1
return res
This is the one I submitted
delicate lantern
is that the one on neetcode?
obsidian crater
Yeah
delicate lantern
mhmm, i tried solving it without looking at its solution, and this is as far as I got
time to just remember all leetcode patterns
and then be like hmmm, never seen this question before when I get one
obsidian crater
This is just normal 2 pointers
delicate lantern
ya
obsidian crater
Your set approach should work
delicate lantern
oh lord
I removed the print statements
and it worked
....
................. . .. . . . . . . . .. . . . . .
delicate lantern
I could imagine that happening during an interview
and the interviewer also goes like hmmm, ya looks like ya messed up
delicate lantern
Also, if I'm not seeing it wrong both yours and mine is n^2 right?
obsidian crater
yeah
delicate lantern
```Python
class Solution:
def threeSum(self, nums: List[int]) -> List[List[i...
oh I think your's is a more optimized version of mine, bc it doesn't do two pointers if the first two numbers are the same
like the first two indexes being the same value
tacit grove
By the look of the current weather of the market and barely any proper openings when do you guys think things will start to open up?
severe pendant
Maybe in July where ng 24 will open up
whole berry
how long does lockheed take man
ornate cliff
```
Hi <early career recruiter>,
I just wanted to connect and see if you had an...
aint no one got time to meet... be direct and say you want a referral to a role and attach your resume
ornate cliff
This is a 3 sum question can someone help with what I'm doing wrong
```
class So...
move both pointers once you find a number?
if ans in sset:
l += 1
r -= 1
Also I think while(i < r) is going too far? You wanna iterate in range(n-2)
delicate lantern
move both pointers once you find a number?
```
if ans in sset:
l += 1
r -= 1...
's arbitrary what point you move
delicate lantern
move both pointers once you find a number?
```
if ans in sset:
l += 1
r -= 1...
also I think you might miss a point if you move both
actually wait
ornate cliff
also I don't know why but my code doesn't work when I have else, I had to explicitly state if threeSum == 0 idk why (nvm I just fixed it)
ornate cliff
also I think you might miss a point if you move both
well they're sorted so I think it's safe
delicate lantern
Also I think ` while(i < r)` is going too far? You wanna iterate `in range(n-2)`
you'd only miss a point if you change a but besides that r is n - 1
ornate cliff
you'd only miss a point if you change a but besides that r is n - 1
wdym miss a point
ornate cliff
's arbitrary what point you move
true
delicate lantern
wdym miss a point
ahh wait nvm it should be fine
swift falcon
aint no one got time to meet... be direct and say you want a referral to a role ...
oh dayum
thas a bit direct
esp since I've gotten 'rejected' from the role I'm interested in
ornate cliff
esp since I've gotten 'rejected' from the role I'm interested in
what do you wanna talk about if you've been rejected already
swift falcon
how to not get rejected
ornate cliff
you can try but honestly aint nobody got time
swift falcon
idk i guess
just seems like if recruiter is an “early career talent placer” they would be open to talking abt shit like this
ornate cliff
lol nah they're too busy filtering out laid off seniors who are applying for junior positions
swift falcon
laf
ornate cliff
and you said you got rejected?
even less reason to meet you they already made up their mind
swift falcon
yeah but like if I ever want to reapply
I want to work for this company
it’s like top 3
ornate cliff
well i would reach out whenever you reapply
dire gale
❤️
ornate cliff
it’s like top 3
what company is it.. is it a startup
swift falcon
nah
Rockwell Automation
their HQ is in m'waukee
Wow, so they just posted a new basic SE position
literally today
serendipitous
rain patio
Bruh applying to jobs has me acting like this dude in this meme
Except I'm saying "I am a CS grad!"
I'm a cs grad, not a senior developer! Give me a job based on my experience!!!
steady sage
Zip and Monster are complete trash
pastel bane
I begin my career at an autonomous driving company, but I wonder where I can jump to
it uses C++ and the tech stack is quite different from normal IT companies
distant pebble
I begin my career at an autonomous driving company, but I wonder where I can jum...
maybe some companies that focus a lot on embedded or hpc? like amd, nvidia, or something that relies heavily on low latence systems like hft
wind drum
I begin my career at an autonomous driving company, but I wonder where I can jum...
Trading firms for the money
distant pebble
i mean isn't trading a totally diff skillset
to embedded
i think it'd be good for dev
i mean they ask c/c++ trivia occ
and a lot of times tech stack
u will use is in c/c++
timber rock
Maybe Glasgow? <:thanospog:766459435441848363>
You chose glasgow?
timber rock
Oh at some point it’ll ask for ur preference I don’t remember if it’s in the app or a survey afterwards or smth
obsidian crater
Maybe Glasgow because they'll rejoin the EU 
timber rock
timber rock
swift falcon
eerie
timber rock
@pulsar mural 👋
timber rock
Chilling atm 😎
timber rock
Are you a LoL player
No comment
swift falcon
Chilling atm 😎
WFM?
obsidian crater
wfm?
swift falcon
Work from mountaintop
obsidian crater
regular day in bay area for CEOs
timber rock
Yea this is the Bay Area
obsidian crater
stay at home in the santa cruz mountains
swift falcon
can definitely tell by the gigantic bay in the picture
timber rock
🇺🇲
obsidian crater
live in their $10 million homes
make overpaid $200K engineers go to work in the office
make them pay $4000/month in rent
azure zephyr
it is what it is
swift falcon
Yea this is the Bay Area
where is it actually tho
timber rock
where is it actually tho
Edinburgh
swift falcon
ah so gorgeous
obsidian crater
Edinburgh
fallen fox
would you guys work at North Dakota for a decent-ish salary
obsidian crater
Pronounced Edinburough
timber rock
Pronounced Edinburough
👎
obsidian crater
Ngl I might get shot in North Dakota
timber rock
Edin-bruh
obsidian crater
For being a colored person
swift falcon
would you guys work at North Dakota for a decent-ish salary
hell yeah
obsidian crater
But I'd take the job
swift falcon
id love to live there
fallen fox
pay is ok but idk if i wanna move to that shithole
swift falcon
pay is ok but idk if i wanna move to that shithole
the winters and desolation sound fun tbh
fallen fox
the winters and desolation sound fun tbh
💀
obsidian crater
North Dakota has a little under 800K people
So like half the population of Manhattan
swift falcon
id move there if I had no family
obsidian crater
swift falcon
same with alaska tbh
obsidian crater
see alaska is different
Alaska is huge
But the population is all concentrated into Anchorage
So it's not as isolated as North Dakota
swift falcon
i want to move to and get some real blizzards
obsidian crater
I live in upstate NY, our winters are deathly
We had a blizzard last year that killed 30 people or something
swift falcon
there has to be mountains and shit if there are zero people
doesn’t ND have mountains?
fallen fox
🤔
swift falcon
like the badlands?
fallen fox
nah nd is pretty flat
swift falcon
or is that SD?
fallen fox
both are flat af 💀
pulsar mural
fallen fox
swift falcon
both are flat af 💀
ah yeah looks like it’s only the western edge
and the badlands are in SD
ah so most of ND is prarie then lol
fallen fox
swift falcon
id still live there tbh
fallen fox
timber rock
can definitely tell by the gigantic bay in the picture
Found the bay!
obsidian crater
oh to be born in a civilized nation...
fallen fox
everything is yellow and smells like smoke where im currently at
north dakota is worse
fallen fox
fallen fox
NJ
wind nebula
I’m from North Dakota and I’ll be the first to tell you not to move here 💀
fallen fox
timber rock
Why on earth would we call them that
fresh mango
https://www.faangtechleads.com/resume/handbook --> Anyone pay for this or have a workaround lol? Chatgpt ain't helpin with the resume stuff anymore. Just looking for some more resume writing guidelines. Need to pass some resume screens, about time
timber rock
Do they call them crisp chips in the UK?
Fries are called fries, chips are different to fries
timber rock
Or crispy tacos
Their tacos suck honestly but I like their burritos
fossil jewel
i thought our smoke onlyu affected NYC
bro from Connecticut to NY
obsidian crater
Even DC
timber rock
Where is on fire this time
void topaz
fallen fox
ngl it feels apocalyptic in nj rn
obsidian crater
I live in upstate NY
It's nice here
Only the sinister part is
The air looks good
But particulate levels are unhealthy
So it's bad
timber rock
Don’t have that here rip
obsidian crater
rip
timber rock
Nvm I am blind
fresh mango
just making sure it's scam, I don't trust these resume services anyway thanks 😭
fallen fox
no one saw that
pulsar mural
beautiful
obsidian crater
fallen fox
steady sage
might get a better response to that question in layoff support or full timers
bold pier
Fallout 69 in real life
fallen fox
bottom 5 cs in WA state
moved to nj to live rent free with relatives after graduating last december
rain patio
@pulsar mural is on the market
They provide gc
fallen fox
ive thought about it 
rain patio
ive thought about it <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
90 day fiance is accepting applications
fossil jewel
youre beautiful 😍
that’s a child bro
obsidian crater
@timber rock ayo JP's test was mad easy
fallen fox
90 day fiance is accepting applications
timber rock
<@220581504718209024> ayo JP's test was mad easy
See u in lodnon 😎😎
fossil jewel
ah
timber rock
Is it actually in person?
It was online this year I think
obsidian crater
Because I'm not a UK citizen
timber rock
tho idk if they take intl students for ng/intern
Yeah they do
timber rock
They sponsor intl students and also students based outside uk