2023_grads

[hardy hinge]

guys, need some help. Got a W2 verbal offer from a really new contracting firm with a client. They are offering me 45 per hour. Thats it. No benefits, no extra, nothing. I dont know anything of contracting firms. if anyone knows what benefits should I ask please guide

[oblique wasp]

Usually they don't have other benefits like full time employees.

[fossil jewel]

forgot expensive drip

[timber rock]

just got my sign on. should i buy this 20k bag or 30k jacket?

but then how am i gonna afford my tesla

am i gonna have to work 1 more month??? really? ?//

[west egret]

I'll have $300 of my 500 stipend after taxes. Should i get a desk or a chair?

will use cardboard box to replace the other

[rain patio]

bro I'd kill for $45/hr as a new grad....I'm making $12/hr at a buffet

[bold pier]

Aren't you international? o.O

[rain patio]

No?

[bold pier]

Oh cool then, I wish I could work at a buffet

[rain patio]

I'm a US citizen and can't even get a $20/hr software job smh

I can't even get a $15/hr software job 😭

[rain patio]

Post bag, post jacket so we know how they look. I'd get a Rolex bc they hold value well

Even against inflation

[faint umbra]

Bro give up your citizenship, America ain't superpower anymore. My friends in india everyone graduated and got job.

[rain patio]

😦

[rain patio]

Jacket looks so much cooler

[raw plank]

Nah bro relax, even if we start working in 2025 we’ll catch up within a few months 😂 they’re getting scammed in India

[static quarry]

Yeah india pays developers peanuts

They also have like 400k cs students graduate every year

So its way over saturated

[rain patio]

60k or so cs students graduate each year in the USA. But there's like a few thousand entry level jobs 😭

Gotta be in the top 1% of grads

I certainly am not

[static quarry]

Thats not true at all 💀

There are more than a few thousand jobs

And you definitely dont need to be top 1%

[bold pier]

Yeah, more like top 1.3%

[static quarry]

U guys are doomers

😭😭

The people who are fked are the people at the bottom 20-30%

[teal jackal]

I have to say I didn't realize that even revature might not be able to get you placed with a firm

[fossil jewel]

bloom did u wrong

they could've grossed up

so that you'd get taxed down to 500

[rain patio]

40% TAX ON A $500 STIPEND? WTF

[obsidian crater]

socialism

[rain patio]

bruh how the hell!?

I thought the highest income tax bracket was like 38%, and that's only if you're literally making millions

[obsidian crater]

That seems high

[rain patio]

And only income above like 1 million is taxed that high

[obsidian crater]

But perhaps stipends are taxed differently

[rain patio]

that sucks omg

[obsidian crater]

Or his company withheld extra

So he'll get a refund when he files taxes

[rain patio]

ewwww nooo

Ideally you want to withhold as little as possible. You want to owe 0 in taxes at the end of the tax season. Having them pay you back is nice until you realize they are holding your money interest free

[obsidian crater]

I'm not a tax bro

So idk

[rain patio]

Imagine if the IRS had to pay you back with interest if you overpay lol

[split igloo]

No time for job searching, time to play some Diablo 4

[jovial latch]

im going insane waiting for ff16 tbh

[fossil jewel]

bonuses are taxed at highest tax bracket, aka 40%

you get the actual difference between the 40% and your actual when you file

[jovial latch]

wow lol

[fossil jewel]

yeah any sign on bonus/performance/etc will be taxed as so

[jovial latch]

honestly, reminds me bout how the student loan pause is now gone cause of the debt ceiling deal

[grizzled bronze]

Any loopholes?

[jovial latch]

be rich

i mean i joke but thats just how shit is

billions in ppp loans forgiven while the student loan pause gets ended

which ironically will fuck up the economy even more

[obsidian crater]

yeah

[jovial latch]

i mean im no economist but dont you want people to spend

[grizzled bronze]

I'm just happy with any bonus

[jovial latch]

fucking restarting student loans does the opposite, and is also like, politicial suicide ffs

i was like 'theres no way they resume student loans, that would go over so horribly with everyone'

[obsidian crater]

They want the opposite of spending

That's why rates have gone up

[jovial latch]

honestly i know and understand nothing, all i know is that they're just trying everything they can to prevent the economy from collapsing and all of this is duct tape

christ, what a joke

[bold pier]

Who the hell is spending too much

[jovial latch]

yea its all bs

inflation is only this bad cause corporations made 'record profits'

[raw plank]

Day in the life of swe Tik tokers

[bold pier]

Do we know their address?

I just wanna talk

[jovial latch]

housing crisis is pretty much because of wall street and corporations hoarding property

but man bay area pricing is something else

[pine topaz]

are you a millionaire bob

[obsidian crater]

No, but my sugar queen @pine topaz is

[pine topaz]

Your sugar queen does not make FAANG TC

I feel sorry for you

[obsidian crater]

[fallen fox]

💀

[obsidian crater]

My sugar queen owns FAANG

[pine topaz]

Yahkunazon went down under

[obsidian crater]

sad

still rich

[fallen fox]

what kind of lc questions did zon ask you

[rain patio]

bro i had an interview like that too

so dumb

the guy even asked me why i "only have 1 internship"

bro this ain't FAANG...get off your high horse smh

[timber rock]

I interviewed for an internship once and i was asked: why do you not have an internship yet, why don’t you have your high school grades on your resume, why is it taking you 4 years to graduate

[obsidian crater]

some things haven't changed

[rain patio]

If I can do leetcode mediums in a reasonable amount of time, you think I'll be able to get a job when recruiting starts up this fall?

Because I didn't start applying until junior year 😭

I thought internships were for seniors

To be fair, I got the internship because I was about to be a senior lol

Hey guys,
I'm planning to graduate early i.e by December 2023 and I would ideally like to start working January 2024. Do you guys know when does the hiring for Jan '24 roles start for fresher SDE roles (Master's)?

[timber rock]

“I was focusing on my school work” there’s your answer for next time yw

[rain patio]

they wanted to hire someone who would be graduating soon. They told me that their goal was to hire me to be a full time employee. I thought I was all set....then I got laid off 6 months later because the company's clients cancelled a bunch of projects and they had to downsize or something

[rain patio]

I'm not entirely sure, but people keep throwing around July/August 2023 as the start date for hiring for Jan '24 roles

[timber rock]

they are slowly starting to roll out now. but mostly around august ish

[rain patio]

Oh okay, makes sense. That means that we should be interviewing by the end of summer?

Man I really didn't want to LC whilst interning in the summer tho 😦

Sounds like a plan!

Does anyone have a sheets template to track applications?

[jovial latch]

i tracked apps for a bit then i gave up lol

i only started tracking apps where i got a callback

[swift falcon]

bros i fricken did it

i got the state gov job app submitted

been looking at it since 5/17

[grizzled bronze]

Congrats!

[peak pike]

is a 95k base + 12.5k sign on good for entry level right after finishing undergrad

[grizzled bronze]

That's very good

[teal jackal]

pretty good, congrats

[rain patio]

😭

Bro how are you all getting jobs wtf

Did u apply earlier or something? I didn't start applying for jobs until March 2023, and I graduated in May 2023...

[lament summit]

yeah ngl thats p late

i applied for things last july, aug

[severe pendant]

😭 I think around late feb my inbox got pretty silent (compared to months before)

[rain patio]

ok I'm just dumb lol

I should have applied so much earlier

I'm not some super genius, but I don't think I'm terrible at cs. I did graduate with pretty decent grades and 1 internship after all...

[lament summit]

damn

why didnt u apply earlier

i feel like if u had an internship before u would know to apply earlier

[swift falcon]

We are moving forward with other applicants that more closely align with the needs of this role, but please make sure to stay current on newly available career opportunities on our careers site.

Bro this is like a starter career job and I get rejected from that haha

[pulsar mural]

[rain patio]

I did my internship senior year lol

[pine topaz]

When Amex rescinded you and now you live in Arizzona's DA ZONE

[rain patio]

if I had applied for new grad 2023 jobs, I probably wouldn't have had my internship on my resume. I didn't even get the internship until the middle of september

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural do da ZOMBIE walk

Not yet...

but im praying everyday

Happy friday ❤️

[lament summit]

ah that makes sense

[gray niche]

yeahh ngl my last interview was september 24th but also the economy is really bad rn

[rain patio]

I hope there's a big hiring boom this fall. Anything is better than right now

Nah screw 2024 grads lol. I've had more time to grind leetcode while they're worried about classes and graduation

I'm getting that job no matter what. 2024 grads will have to wait their turn

[narrow harbor]

lol

[whole berry]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-robot-gif-5733980

another week ending

no job

[distant pebble]

i think it depends on where u live

[swift falcon]

PRAY GOD PRAY GOD PRAY GOD BESTOW JOBS UPON MYSELF AND ALL OF THOSE LOOKING FOR JOB HERE PRAY GOD JESUS

[deep wasp]

I don’t like that my company uses bitbucket and my contributions don’t count towards my GitHub progress 🥲

[unreal rampart]

Just got my offer pushed to 2024 what now

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

[urban gulch]

What company?

[unreal rampart]

Publicis Sapient

[urban gulch]

That’s crazy

[unreal rampart]

🥲

[whole berry]

they were known to be doggy before

im so sorry fr

keep looking bro

from what ive seen, it just means theyre quiet rescinding

[unreal rampart]

So I should assume I don’t have a job with them even when 2024 comes

[whole berry]

yes, always

you go on r/cscareerquestions, its basically the same advice

im just regurgitating what more experienced people on there have said

[unreal rampart]

Thanks I already started looking but this is looking tuff I have no prior work experience and I’m not a CS major

Hopefully lightning can strike twice for me🥲

[whole berry]

also here

https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/11rr3z6/is_publicis_sapient_a_reliable_company_to_join/

[distant pebble]

maybe make post on linkedin? my friend got google moonshot ft cancelled and he made linkedin post about situation and got recruiters dming him

[unreal rampart]

I fucked up I rejected an interview at a bank to take their offer because they had me so convinced they were ready to have me

Learning from this mistake

[unreal rampart]

Did your friend have prior relevant experience ?

[distant pebble]

yeah

but i think its still worthwhile

posting

cuz it might get some traction

does github progress even matter tho tbh?

lmfao, mine is like all white

[pine topaz]

this was me no-lifing it on covid lockdowns;

[deep wasp]

how about just 2023? :

[pine topaz]

burnt out many times doign school and internships at the same time too, worst period of my life

[deep wasp]

leetcode activity catching up to github

[pine topaz]

dammmm

[obsidian crater]

Is leetcode down?

sad

[pine topaz]

my commit are on companyus repo sadly

[deep wasp]

as you can see april was a sweaty month. that was when i was supposed to be studying for finals. clearly i was not

[hoary fern]

wtf were u doing

[pine topaz]

not touching grass....

[hoary fern]

clearly

[grizzled bronze]

Doesn't matter, no one cares

All that matters is passing the interview, they ain't got time to look at your GitHub

[pine topaz]

yess, Im sadgining because trying to beat joncs 2023 leetcode commit

DN

[fossil jewel]

they wont anyways

your acc gonna be seperate from personal lol

[pine topaz]

good on you tbh

it should be illegal to code after work

[fossil jewel]

no need to buff up my gh now that i have work exp

[pine topaz]

and there should be state madnated touch grass time

[fossil jewel]

me time

[pine topaz]

@timber rock addition to your meme tempalte?

[fossil jewel]

i mean back in 2021 mine was def beefier

not by much

[fossil jewel]

that period in the summer till jan is for my senior design fyi

[timber rock]

🫡

Just got another interview invite but I already have a job. It’s hard being me 😮‍💨😮‍💨

[fossil jewel]

mans cracked

[whole berry]

i gotta be like bro

[bold pier]

wtf is the blackrock 2nd question, even google doesn't give anything

[obsidian crater]

🧠

what is it?

[south sable]

has anyone put freelance work on their resume in the experience section?

someone advised me to do so instead of putting in projects to explain what i've been doing in 2022

[hoary fern]

why wouldn’t you? its work you have exp doing

[fossil jewel]

you can discuss what the freelance consisted of

[south sable]

I mean the question becomes how I do I spin that

[fossil jewel]

stacks and whatnot

[south sable]

I basically did this

but for title I went for "Full Stack Developer (Freelance)"

is the freelance part necessary or is it better to put that information elsewhere?

[pine topaz]

I think you can also put it as Contract work too iirc? Not entirely sure

[south sable]

Contract sounds better, right?

idk i just know that some people do contract work and it works out for them

[pine topaz]

I would say so, or you dont have to disclose it either - But Id imagine if the company you worked for cant be googable it can raise some questions

[pulsar mural]

@pine topaz

[pine topaz]

uo @pine topaz

[fossil jewel]

uo @yahkuna Matada (yahkuna simp)

[pulsar mural]

@fossil jewel are u at work

[fossil jewel]

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural Can you relate?

[rain patio]

https://tenor.com/view/christian-bale-kiss-bang-american-psycho-gif-8914021

He got off easy

[bold pier]

🪢

[idle temple]

recruiting since march, graduated from an honors program at a T10 cs school with 2 internships, 1 at google, still not getting any interviews

is there any hope at all?

[obsidian crater]

join defense?

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[rain patio]

I've been told that it's a resume issue if you aren't getting any interviews, but honestly at this point it's anyone's guess wtf is going for entry level SWE 😭

Are you applying everywhere or only at competitive big tech companies?

[idle temple]

approved for return offer but dropped from process when they paused hiring

[obsidian crater]

I see open positions in defense for new grads everyday

[idle temple]

i’ll drop my resume in the channel later when i take out personal info

[obsidian crater]

go sell your soul

they'll hire anyone with a BS that's a citizen and can pass polygraph

[rain patio]

where!?!?!?

[obsidian crater]

like anywhere on linkedin

[rain patio]

where are these mythical defense new grad jobs

oh linkedin...

i swear 99% of jobs on there are fake

or expired already

but show as "new"

[obsidian crater]

https://careers-gdms.icims.com/jobs/59202/job

[rain patio]

rip it's a C++ job

[obsidian crater]

That's most defense jobs

[hoary fern]

u guys take into account langauge when lookin for job?

[rain patio]

Yeah lol. I hate C++ with a passion. I'd rather mop bathroom floors than use C++

[obsidian crater]

You wanna join the FBI?

[rich prairie]

dont

[hoary fern]

oh damn

im suppose to learn c++ before i start internship next week

[rain patio]

modern c++ is okay, but chances are you're going to need to use legacy c++ at defense jobs

legacy C++ is just trash 😭

[hoary fern]

feels like most ppl ya

[swift falcon]

how are you gonna apply to a c++ job without any c++ experience, aint no way you’re gonna get hired

[hoary fern]

lot of the time ive seen them say any oop lang exp

[swift falcon]

yeah ig that’s like the one caveat

but a lot of them don’t have that

at least the ones I see

[hoary fern]

i mean i dont take into acct the requirements anyway lol

who does

[swift falcon]

I do tbh

but maybe I shouldn’t lol

[hoary fern]

lot of ppl aim for like at least 1/3 of the reqs listed and then like ok apply

oh okay havent encountered that yet

[swift falcon]

like when they talk about cmake and all that extra shit im like aint no way

[rain patio]

ewww cmake

[lime burrow]

How much harder are new grad interviews/processes compared to intern ones?

[hoary fern]

no personal exp but it seems like its generally a lot longer

more rounds

for big tech companies

[hoary fern]

@grim ore do you have a ft job rn

oo ok nice congras

whats in this list

[rich canopy]

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings

[hoary fern]

30 min with explaining the solution?

[rain patio]

This gives me hope. I applied for jobs way too late for new grad 2023, but I should have a decent shot with new grad 2024 jobs

[west egret]

I didn’t know that acronym

[fallen fox]

harvard yale princeton stanford mit

[west egret]

Yeah I searched it

[rain patio]

I just found out that IntelliJ was made using Java swing omg. I'm using swing for a project right now! Muhahaha

Now I know what's possible with swing

[loud summit]

When will the 2024 grad channels go up?

[fading sphinx]

😵

[hoary fern]

some ‘22 ppl might be lookin

[grave hawk]

Guys, when do you think new grad roles for students graduating in Dec 2023 & May 2024 open?

[hasty birch]

June earliest, most end of July - early August

[grave hawk]

Alright thank you so much

[rain patio]

Apply early and often. The time is almost upon us

[crystal dove]

on a scale to 1-10 how likely am i to get a postion that according to Linkedin thousands of applicant applied to and im currently in the final round?

[rain patio]

if you got to the final round, that's impressive. I say it's definitely high chances

not guaranteed, but not 0

[crystal dove]

yeah for square, i feel like at this point if you do really well on the techinal round it all comes down to if hirining manager likes you

😭😭

[bold pier]

Friends, been a while since I had a resume review.

Please check #1114394071436378284 message

[grizzled bronze]

Disregard the app count and just do your best, that's all you can do

No point speculating

[teal jackal]

^

[tacit grove]

Does anyone know what Ramp's deciphering message question is in their application form? It's really confusing

[grizzled bronze]

Hint: Look up Base 64 decoder

[ornate cliff]

ah, the Ramp rollercoaster

still hurts

[whole berry]

remember when this entire discord was passing around ramps cypher answer

in the end they hired like 5 people

[split igloo]

that's crazy amount of applications

[rain patio]

yeah international 😭

Great resume, but being an international right now is just so hard

[vital meteor]

How did you even find 1500 applications to apply to

[rain patio]

I applied to over 300 in about 2 months. If they started applying back in July 2022 or something, 1500 sounds possible to me

[swift falcon]

damn just looked at linkedin for my area, 0 real jobs

like maybe 1-2 postings, and then like 10 staffing agency posts for the same job

[ornate cliff]

what's your search term on linkein

[swift falcon]

Software Engineer

[ornate cliff]

oh lol

i search "software grad"

saves me the time of sifting through all the BS that I don't qualify for

[swift falcon]

I had no idea that was a thing

[ornate cliff]

I had to cuz this filter is complete bullshit

[south kettle]

Is 2023 december over or is there a repo that is still tracking it?

[grizzled bronze]

Forget repos, use LinkedIn

and #grad_postings_old

[hoary fern]

forget linkedin use craigslist jobs

[main sluice]

Did anyone do snap apprentice project on-site interview?

[bold pier]

New grad + 2-3 yoe jobs

[dusty basin]

I'm ngl dude. If you can't decipher that, you're not going to pass their interview

[torn stone]

Asking for a friend - those who interviewed with Google, how hard was your phone screen. Their LC list is crazy hard

[vague furnace]

Did anyone apply to Ramp iOS New Grad?

They seem to have the posting up again

[pine topaz]

You do kurksal algorithim + 2D DP approach

You could optimize it with red and balck trees if youd realy like

[rain patio]

i don't even know what red and black trees are 😭

[obsidian crater]

ramp is cringe

they resume reject

[tacit grove]

which level is this for?

[grizzled bronze]

Ask if you can use Bard during the interview

[dusty basin]

If u need me to explain that, you’re ngmi

[obsidian crater]

I'm just going to say

If you can't do it

You're ngmi

[pulsar mural]

yo

ngmi

[obsidian crater]

Hi yahkesus

How is Yahkunazon

[dusty basin]

That ng is ngmi

[grizzled bronze]

I heard multiple people say their backend interviews involve CTF concepts

@ornate cliff is that true?

[ornate cliff]

not ctf concepts no

the WAY you solved for the flags

nothing to do with security

[autumn jolt]

what's ngmi?

[ornate cliff]

Yes

[grizzled bronze]

So @dusty basin is still right in this case, if you don't understand how to solve them you're not gonna pass the interview

[dusty basin]

If u don’t know then ur ngmi

[obsidian crater]

not gonna make it

[autumn jolt]

ohhu

[grizzled bronze]

If you can't use ChatGPT to solve the Ramp flags, you're ngmi

[ornate cliff]

if you choke on your ramp interview you're ngmi

[obsidian crater]

ngmi is the opposite of wagmi

we're all gonna make it

[dusty basin]

Did u make it yet @grizzled bronze

[grizzled bronze]

Soon

[rain patio]

tf is ngmi?

new grad something something?

[cloud zinc]

we're using /fit/ terminology for getting a job?

whats next? dyel: do you even leetcode?

[stone granite]

Not gonna make it?

[south kettle]

Bruh why does the blackrock oa not even have the auto highlight the matching bracket feature

Is it just me or did they not even have a custom input either?

[rich prairie]

oh no im about to do blackrocks code test, what else is wrong with it

[south kettle]

u can either look at the test case/compiler output or look at the code since drag bar overlaps instead of shifting the other screen to a smaller/bigger view

[faint igloo]

whens ur start date tho

[faint igloo]

what visa r u looking for

damn same as me

i think u should reach out, but tn entry is at most 10 days prior to start date

so they might be waiting it out lol

yea just ask in case but dont be to worried cuz it seems the lawyers are indeed pretty slow

[grave hawk]

Which role is this for?

[split plaza]

they're still hiring for NG?

[grave hawk]

Oh is this for those who are graduating in 2023 May ? or 2024?

[pine topaz]

Here is some grindset motivation for Monday:

@pulsar mural Can you relate?

[normal palm]

Lfgggg

[brave forge]

rise & grind everyone

last day before my intern starts got a ton of work to do

[rain patio]

Me when I see all the rejection emails

https://tenor.com/view/gus-fring-explode-without-meme-captions-lmao-gif-25640539

[swift falcon]

bro we dying out here

[mystic cosmos]

scared for 2024 grad

[rain patio]

It'll probably be better for you...maybe

[mystic cosmos]

u think so?

[bold pier]

All these midnight rejection notifications I have to shut down my phone before sleeping now

[teal jackal]

Make the most out of the fact that you're still doing internships

[fossil jewel]

yeah aim for a RT O

[brave forge]

Yep if I can get a return offer to my intern I will be so happy

MY intern company pays over 100k in Kansas City

Hard to beat anywhere else, cost of living is lowest in the country

[fossil jewel]

if it’s a place known for given the offers then just do your work and be a team player

[brave forge]

Ya they said they hired everyone except one person back last year and there’s interns starting with us tomorrow that are new grads return offered from last years interns

So they are certainly the type to pull in ppl from intern which is a reason why I went with them

[fossil jewel]

yeah usually that one person could just be a walking red flag lol

[oblique wasp]

which company is this?

[brave forge]

Could be they just declined it or whatever

Just a no name local company

[fossil jewel]

jpm gave everyone RTO except super obviously toxic people

[fossil jewel]

yeah they’d want to bring people in

not everyone wants to work in Kansas

[brave forge]

Ya they have no new grad hiring and yes not many talent to pull from

The job posts they list are always for 5 YOE devs

[fossil jewel]

your concern would mainly be about stability in that case

but if they’re not overhiring then they’ll be fine

[bold pier]

^ This. All the people I know who have a job right now got RTO.

[solemn kite]

Have any international new grads even gotten any entry-level positions? Or know someone who has?

I need some motivation lol

can't believe no one has 😭

[raw plank]

everytime someone new joins and asks where the jobs are they dont know

[west egret]

Cheddy crying right now

[obsidian crater]

There are like no jobs anywhere except defense for entry level right now lol

for 2023 people

[west egret]

2023 interns have already started

So 2023 is kind of done

my recruiter says SWE is done

[rain patio]

2024 new grad recruiting starts in about a month or so

i'm so scared 😭

gotta fight off all the 2024 grads for a job

[obsidian crater]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-noose-rope-sewercide-imdone-gif-24206679

[swift falcon]

guys my recruiter (all companies) says the 2023-2026 seasons are done so don’t bother applying ok thanks

[timber rock]

there should be a law where if you don’t get a job in your grad year you are banned for life

[rain patio]

Me fighting the 2024 grads for a shitty entry level SWE job that pays poverty wages

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-fight-shrek-fight-shrek-beat-up-knights-gif-18801474

[west egret]

my recruiter says hc got reached up until the birth of your first child

[swift falcon]

what dfk is HC

Hotal comp?

[timber rock]

heez cutz

[rain patio]

head count

[swift falcon]

makes sense lol

[rain patio]

aka the number of people they need employed under them at any given time or somethin

[brave forge]

i mean there is @median thistle that is a new-grad foreigner and he landed some new-grad job and SoFI intern but he went to a T10 uni in california and graduated last year

[rain patio]

after that, no more hiring

[swift falcon]

bro what if some of the SWEs were to disappear in my hometown conveniently leaving some vacancies open

[timber rock]

[swift falcon]

omfg mobile

I have like 3-4 big companies and they all have to have some sort of IT dept with some SWEs

there’s even an embedded company

[rain patio]

what if all the 2024 grads conveniently got COVID 20 and were too sick to apply for new grad roles

[swift falcon]

that does like cranes and shit and needs c++/linux devs etc

[brave forge]

ya same there's one embedded company near me which is Garmin

they are ALWAYS hiring but i dont know shit about embedded

i even interviewed once and got rejected after final

[swift falcon]

im abt to reach out to that company and ask for a job or some direction on getting hired lmao

[brave forge]

you live in Wisconsin right

[swift falcon]

yeah

honestly if I could get a job with them it’d be 100%

[solemn kite]

I wouldn't fully give up hope tbh. I know people who graduated in 2020, and landed new grad roles as late as August/October

So you have to refocus and apply to smaller companies but it's definitely possible

[obsidian crater]

Garmin just resume rejects me lol

idk why

[brave forge]

tbh i think i only got interviewed because I had my address as Kansas City

[obsidian crater]

Garmin is also weirdly GPA obsessed

[brave forge]

ohh ya i have a 3.8 gpa and they made me submit my GPA to the recruiter directly also lol

[swift falcon]

Proficient in C programming

[brave forge]

they pay so well though

[swift falcon]

find me a new grad that is proficient in C

[brave forge]

they were doing 30/hr for intern and 3k/month housing and a lot of benefits

[obsidian crater]

Me

[brave forge]

[swift falcon]

I should have taken that mf OS class tbh

[brave forge]

how tf do u get profecient in C

[obsidian crater]

I worked in real time Linux systems at my last internship

[brave forge]

same man i wish i was C skilled

instead i am web-dev skilled

[obsidian crater]

C is easy

[brave forge]

like every other new grad

[swift falcon]

was a literal “build an os from C” class

[obsidian crater]

C++ is hard as fuck

[brave forge]

depends

c++ is easy if your doing your own small projects or leetcode, C++ is tough when it's a production scale application and all this legacy code is mixed

[obsidian crater]

Almost any language becomes hard at production level

[brave forge]

[obsidian crater]

But C++ is the worst of all of them difficulty wise

[brave forge]

but C++ is very hard

it's not even C++ they care about though

i have practice in C++, they want C

[obsidian crater]

C is way easier than C++

The language itself is maybe 20% of the size of C++

[brave forge]

why haven't i learned it then

[obsidian crater]

learn it

[raw plank]

learn to code

[brave forge]

im out of time lol i just new-grad prep at what im good at nowadays

[oblique wasp]

Hey guys, I have a few queries around the EAD card (for international students)

1. If I opt for premium processing by paying $1500, then in how many days does the EAD normally get approved?
2. If I have already paid the initial $410, then can I opt for premium processing now?
3. If I opt for premium processing now, will that be in addition to $410 that I have already paid before?

[worthy aspen]

To answer your 3rd, yes it will be on top

[obsidian crater]

who hired you decaf?

[worthy aspen]

Don’t quote me on it but if im not wrong then even when u initially apply and opt for premium, you pay the actual+premium fee

[oblique wasp]

No one. But this happened with one of my friend. He got an offer that required him to join immediately but his EAD card did not arrive by that time and his offer got rescinded since the company was not ready to wait.
Another friend of mine who opted for premium processing said that his EAD got approved within a week, and delivery of the card took another week. But idk if that's an anomaly. So wanted to know from others as well who opted for the premium service. Because Ik only one friend of mine who paid for premium

[obsidian crater]

ah

[oblique wasp]

Oh, okay

I applied for my EAD in the second half of April. My friends who applied in the first week are still waiting for the approval. The ones who applied on or before March end, got their eads approved within 30 days

Since then, the approval process has slowed down a little bit

[obsidian crater]

I think you're allowed to stay even if your EAD is pending if you applied before the 60 day period

[worthy aspen]

From this I understand that if u filed for your opt before apr 3rd, ur premium req will get rejected

[obsidian crater]

USCIS is so cringe at times ngl

[worthy aspen]

https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-announces-premium-processing-new-online-filing-procedures-for-certain-f-1-students-seeking-opt

[obsidian crater]

so many rules and conditions just designed to make life hard

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/dota-mason-monkey-chair-gif-25733162

[oblique wasp]

Thanks for sharing @worthy aspen

Has anyone ever tried contacting their customer support? What is the wait time and whats the best way to reach out to them? Chat bot, email or phone?

[worthy aspen]

Also i applied on the last day of march, i got my ead around the 20th of May

[oblique wasp]

Yes. The ones who applied in March, got within a month

[worthy aspen]

You should be getting yours within the next 1-2weeks if u applied by the first week of april

[oblique wasp]

Oh, ok. You got in a montha and a half

[oblique wasp]

I applied in last week of april 💀

[worthy aspen]

Yeah my girlfriend applied 2 days before me but we got it the same day

[worthy aspen]

You can expect it in June or first week july

Shouldnt take more than 2 months max

And like someone said here, as long as u applied for your EAD, your grace period doesnt count. Even if your EAD arrives next year, you can stay

Happened to many folks back in 2020

Got their offers rescinded too tho

[obsidian crater]

getting offers in 2023

[worthy aspen]

I honestly dont know how to survive this market, cant see how i’ll even get to a final round by the end of my unemployment clock😂

[obsidian crater]

same

yeah

[worthy aspen]

Yeah all of unemployed 22 even if they dont qualify + us + 2024 kids in one pool

[obsidian crater]

yes

[worthy aspen]

Gotta pack up and dip, technically you can overstay, no ones gonna come for you but you lose status

Yeah theres no good in that lol

[brave forge]

how do u immigrants even afford a place to live here

i cant imagine being here with no family to help u or subsidize any costs and no job

[worthy aspen]

Unless your American born child sponsors you a greencard at 21

[brave forge]

if your hot

[obsidian crater]

meh I'm gonna gtfo to Canada once I run out of OPT

[brave forge]

it will help if u come from a good country like some of EU and Japan/Korea lol

[worthy aspen]

Whats your strategy to get sponsorship there?

[brave forge]

beg

[worthy aspen]

If u dont have express entry, you need sponsorship

[obsidian crater]

Grad school

Or get a job with a US company that has Canadian offices

[worthy aspen]

Ah, fair

[obsidian crater]

They'll transfer

[brave forge]

idk man isn't Canada like even lower paying and harder to get jobs with

market in Canada sounds like chaos

[obsidian crater]

yeah but

would you rather make $80K in Canada

or live in some shithole 3rd world country

[brave forge]

if u failed in the USA idk how you'd succeed in Canada

[worthy aspen]

Yeah fam from where i come, freelance devs make 500 per project lmao

Or on the upside 5k per project

[brave forge]

idk id live in 3rd world country and try to make some $$$ on my own

[obsidian crater]

you haven't lived in a 3rd world country lol

[brave forge]

i have tho

[obsidian crater]

?

[brave forge]

it sucked but i had a lot of money

so it was better everything is basically super cheap/free to me

like i couldnt even find stuff to spend my money on unless i brought something like a car

[worthy aspen]

Did u work as a freelancer?

[obsidian crater]

meh personally for me

I don't wanna live in a 3rd world culture

[worthy aspen]

Or an actual job

[obsidian crater]

I don't care if I'm like rich af

[timber rock]

if you got money then sure but making money from scratch in third world country is pretty damn hard lol

[obsidian crater]

I don't want to live in a backwards ass society where my neighbors believe in religious nonsense

[brave forge]

no i had my own money from working in the USA and my dads money from also working in the USA so it wasnt too bad. Although i hate it now and would never do it again

but while it lasted it was a pretty chill way to spend 18

i went out with my friends all the time to some pretty cool places

[worthy aspen]

Yeah you had that US income. If u earn 3rd world income, reality sets in super fast

Tbh i wouldnt mind moving to singapore or hk

Looks pretty nice

[obsidian crater]

I'd be ok with SG

But immigrating to SG is basically impossible

[brave forge]

idk where i would want to live outside the USA

[timber rock]

Singapore is amazing, one of my favourite cities I’ve been to

[brave forge]

it's just so big, there's so many cities i haven't explored yet

Plus when I can be making 100k+ at 20 yrs old and every other country you'd be lucky to get that by 30 it's just like...vacations to cheaper countries for a week are good enough

[worthy aspen]

When it comes to the US, I’d ideally like to never leave nyc tbh. Id consider CA, FL and TX tho

[brave forge]

i want to go to NYC

[worthy aspen]

Exactly why internationals dont wanna go back lol

[obsidian crater]

NYC is a nice place to visit

Not a a great place to live

It's so fucking expensive

[brave forge]

🥺

i would have that SWE money if i moved there, but i would probably need to build up to like 5 yoe or something

[worthy aspen]

Yeah things got way too expensive in the last 2 years when it was already expensive

[obsidian crater]

$3K rent for some closet

in NYC

[brave forge]

truth it's gotten harder

[obsidian crater]

not ideal

[brave forge]

Ya it really only makes sense if you are a couple and both of you make 100k+

[worthy aspen]

My 1k month rent lease expires this month and now the same apartment goes for 1.5k💀

[brave forge]

how do u pay for that lol

[worthy aspen]

I find a new place😂

Or rent at my friends basement if nothing works out

[brave forge]

as a american i am hard broke and have to ask my parents for everything rn. I'm starting an intern but it's 20/hr for 2.5 months i need more income somehow. Need to land a new grad job soon

[worthy aspen]

[brave forge]

i wouldn't live there forever, but a year just for fun at some startup tech company paying maybe 200k-300k would be worth it

still years out though i doubt any NY company would hire NG that much besides the known big-tech/quant places

better if your at 5 yoe

[timber rock]

😵‍💫

[obsidian crater]

Alterium

You're Bri*ish innit?

How's your trading job?

[timber rock]

I start in sept

[obsidian crater]

[timber rock]

Doing an internship at some random ass tech company for monies starting on 12th june tho

u guys should move to uk ~~ when ~~ if you get deported

we have jobs!!

[brave forge]

R u sure

Why don’t all these immigrants go to UK instead of only choosing USA and Canada

[obsidian crater]

They do

One of them is the prime minister

[timber rock]

I mean we have similar immigration stats per capita

Larger country = higher number

[timber rock]

Very cringe thing to say

[obsidian crater]

why is that cringe

He's not technically an immigrant, his parents were though

[timber rock]

he’s not an immigrant, born and raised in uk

[obsidian crater]

so 2nd generation

[timber rock]

hearing the "they aren't british" shit is pretty common here and usually comes from the extra racist crowd so my bad if that's not what u meant 👍

[obsidian crater]

oh

that's not what I meant

stinky racists

[worthy aspen]

how's the market for jobs in the uk?

also do ya'll follow the same resume format as here in the US? By US i'd reference Jake's resume

[timber rock]

we now have an ethnically indian prime minister and a pakistani first minister in scotland which is pretty funny if you know the history of the british empire leaving india lol

[timber rock]

bad bad bad but not as bad as the us

[light flax]

British lol

[timber rock]

resume format is exactly the same yeah

[worthy aspen]

the uk has a visa for graduates from some top 100 or 50 unis that I'd qualify for

so I've been wondering how to knack a job there

[timber rock]

yea i think its 50. they have a list somewhere on the gov website

[worthy aspen]

do you think companies there value aws certifications?

or certifications of any kind

[timber rock]

i dont think so

i've never even thought about them tbh

[worthy aspen]

ig its just a US thing, some big consultancies value them big time

[timber rock]

cloud knowledge definitely helps but i dont think certs are that useful, at least for new grads

i got an offer from a big consultancy and they did ask a lot of cloud questions

[worthy aspen]

let's see if I ever end up in the UK, god bless

[timber rock]

sponsoring isn't that hard here so you'll find a lot of companies are willing to sponsor, even smaller ones

[worthy aspen]

how's the average entry level pay with folks w a masters degree

and is your take home pay enough to get u a decent standard of living

[timber rock]

in london you'll want at least 50k if you don't wanna have flatmates

that isn't hard to get at finance or tech companies

[worthy aspen]

50 before tax?

[timber rock]

yh

[worthy aspen]

and do you guys apply through Linkedin to find jobs? What sites do ya'll use

[timber rock]

yea just linkedin

otta is good too

[rain patio]

do you get callbacks from linkedin?!

[timber rock]

yes

i am still getting interview invites lol

i stopped applying like 2 months ago

[worthy aspen]

for jobs based in the UK?

[timber rock]

yeah

[worthy aspen]

[rain patio]

Are you a new grad?

how many yoe?

[timber rock]

new grad

0 yoe, t5 uni

[rain patio]

oh dang

I have 0 yoe but a poop university

I also didn't start applying until 2 months ago 😭

[worthy aspen]

[timber rock]

yeh this is why ur not getting anything lool

[rain patio]

makes sense lol

[worthy aspen]

so where you go to university helps in the UK

[rain patio]

I have to wait for new grad 2024

[rain patio]

i'm sure they'll take just about anyone from a US university probably

[timber rock]

hell nah

[timber rock]

yea for sure

[worthy aspen]

thanks for the insights, I hope ya'll are still around here in the server if i ever decide to move

[timber rock]

no problem

[timber rock]

if you go to like mit or similar then sure, you have a shot to compete with the oxford/camb nerds

but outside of the top dogs, us unis are completely unknown here

[rain patio]

Is the UK that competitive? I thought they all wanted to move to the USA lol

cuz USA schools = good or somethin idk

[timber rock]

i mean oxford is the best university in the world for cs

[rain patio]

really?

How did i not know that 😭

[timber rock]

and cambridge/imperial are up near the top too

[timber rock]

it depends on the specific ranking but yes, it's always at least in the top 5

we mostly go by the times rankings here which have 1. oxford, 2. mit, 3. stanford, 4. eth zurich, 5. cmu

[rain patio]

My school is number 261 LMAO

no wonder I'm not getting calls back

[timber rock]

damn bruh

[rain patio]

I'm just a trash tier grad

[timber rock]

mine is 24

[swift falcon]

bruh same

straight up garbage

[rain patio]

I only hope that the leetcode and project grind gets me a good job soon

[fallen fox]

source?

i've never seen a uk university placed anywhere near the US when it comes to CS

top schools are almost all MIT/Stanford/Berkeley etc

[timber rock]

times and QS are generally regarded as the most accurate
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2023/subject-ranking/computer-science#!/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats
https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2022/computer-science-information-systems

[obsidian crater]

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/university-subject-rankings/2022/computer-science-information-systems

here we go

Oxford is #5

I just wish British SWE salaries were good

I would move there

[timber rock]

they are good compared to not-US

u guys are just in a US bubble

[obsidian crater]

How bad is the cost of living in the UK?

I heard there's massive inflation since 2021

Was pretty bad in the US until they jacked up interest rates

Eggs went from $5-6 to $1-2 again

[timber rock]

we're in a cost of living crisis rn and our conservative gov is doing jack shit to fix it

[obsidian crater]

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[obsidian crater]

In America there are two choices

Conservatives
or Lunatics

[timber rock]

the average energy cost was £4k a year early this year and rn it's at £3k

[obsidian crater]

wow wtf

[timber rock]

3 years ago it was like 1k

i had to go ask my parents for a loan cause i literally could not afford to live

[obsidian crater]

By energy you mean electric + gas + water?

Or just electric

[timber rock]

electric + gas

we pay for water thru taxes here

[obsidian crater]

https://www.rocketmoney.com/learn/personal-finance/average-cost-of-utilities

so $4400 in the US

average

[timber rock]

now compare average us vs uk salary lol

[obsidian crater]

Not that different tbh

ok wait what the fuck

[timber rock]

literally 20k diff

that is a lot

[timber rock]

ok thats too low

[obsidian crater]

yeah

[timber rock]

its really like £29k which is what, $35-40k

[obsidian crater]

https://blog.britishcornershop.co.uk/moving-abroad/settling-in-and-what-to-expect/cost-of-living-in-the-usa-compared-to-the-uk/#:~:text=How do salaries compare with,year (about £38%2C941).

According to the Office for National Statistics, the average UK salary is £26,266, while the latest data from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the average annual wage in the United States is $53,490 per year (about £38,941).

[timber rock]

ya

there we go

[obsidian crater]

BUT

BUT

health insurance

[timber rock]

muh free healthcare

[obsidian crater]

In 2020, annual premiums for health coverage for a family of four averaged $21,342, but employers picked up 73% of that cost.

So take another $7K away from Americans

Add to the fact that health insurance doesn't cover everything in the US

Not so bad in the UK

How good is public transit in the UK?

Cause Americans basically have to own a car to participate in society

[timber rock]

very good compared to the us

compared to mainland europe, its not great

[obsidian crater]

I think if you add health insurance + car costs, UK is probably better than the US

For the average joe

[timber rock]

inside london its pretty good, outside london most people need a car

but in scotland buses are free for under 22s so it's pretty nice

[obsidian crater]

[timber rock]

yea i agree

[obsidian crater]

I heard there is this dangerous place in London

Called the square mile of the city of london and it's full of crooks

[timber rock]

thats where my office is

no comment

[obsidian crater]

https://tenor.com/view/christian-bale-american-psycho-walk-jam-gif-16732505

[timber rock]

literally me

[bold pier]

Balls, NYU is top 20 yet no employer cares for it

[timber rock]

i mean it's based on their research so it's not exactly super accurate for their bachelors programmes

but at least in the uk there's definitely the thought that if you go to oxford/cambirdge/imperial, you are top tier

and wont struggle to get interviews

[bold pier]

True, though I think the ranking doesn't matter that much. It's the brand of all these old and famous universities which sell.

[swift falcon]

but will you struggle in the interviews?

[timber rock]

probably not

but i dunno what their curriculums are like i dont go there

[timber rock]

sure

outside of the top 20 or so the rankings get a bit blurry anyway, i mean there's probably not a huge difference in perception between number 50 and number 70 for example

[light flax]

British lol

[final ore]

Hey guys!! Linkedin vs indeed vs glassdoor vs simplify vs handshake? Which is the best website to apply for Ng roles?

[rain patio]

Just use them all lol. It's luck at this point i swear

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/quinnclap-quinn-ccnc-callahan-dota-gif-27459376

[timber rock]

linkedin 🔛 🔝

[bold pier]

Tinder

Bumble has a business mode too, might as well try there!

[ornate cliff]

linkedin

[hoary fern]

craiglist jobs underrated fr

[ornate cliff]

@pulsar mural

[narrow harbor]

use all of em

[brave forge]

guys

[hoary fern]

hi

[brave forge]

anyone else starting their intern tomorrow

im so nervouss

[ornate cliff]

have fun you're employed you're blessed

ask LOTS of questions and bring up blockers earlier than you think you need to

pair program on common problems and see how other devs think and work around the codebase

then enjoy your return offer

[brave forge]

thats the dream

i ran 7.5 miles today because i didnt know what else to do and i was way too stressed to think about much

[hoary fern]

yes me

[brave forge]

how are u feeling about it'

[hoary fern]

tbh i havent been thinking about it that much

but like

theres stuff i need to do and havent been able to focus on bc all ive been thinking about is spiderverse since i watched the movie 2 days ago

so

idk

[brave forge]

i get that cant be productive all the time

[neon perch]

@hollow basin hey! Would love to see your resume 🙏

[brave forge]

@naruto hey! Would love to see your resume 🙏

[hoary fern]

yeah

urs in person?

[brave forge]

well not much else to do now then just go to sleep and see how it goes tomorrow

ya

[hoary fern]

yeah

i gotta wear business casual lol

they sent email saying to wear that kidna stuff

[brave forge]

same, i had to shop for new clothes

[hoary fern]

what company are u at

[brave forge]

no-name place in KC

[hoary fern]

oh okay cool

[normal palm]

Nicee, time?

[brave forge]

Omggg

At the office now

They gave me a MacBook Pro 16 inch!!

Idk I haven’t turned it on yet

Can’t tell it’s just sitting there but it’s an M series for sure

Need to go through orientation

[hoary fern]

i think the one im getting wont be M

[swift falcon]

screaming crying throwing up because i don’t have a job that gets me a mac book pro

[fallen fox]

how do you

get an

interview

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

literally nothing for a month and a half

[bold pier]

Spam people, literally nothing happening with cold applications

[sleek owl]

Could be worse, you could be working at a company that uses teams and windows

[cloud zinc]

I have an upcoming interview where they will ask me "higher level" questions. Asides from software engineering 101 and OOP, and maybe design patterns, what else should I brush up on?

I say maybe because when the main interviewer stated that there will be no questions on design patterns, yet it will be helpful to know about

For context, this is a final round interview with a manager and a team of three upper level developers

System design, like uml? Or more in depth?

[bold pier]

Make sure you know your own resume inside out, like why did you use certain language or framework for a project, etc etc

[bold pier]

My last 2 jobs, everyone had mac yet they gave me Lenovo with Windows : (

[cloud zinc]

whats interesting is that the position is looking for people who know C# and angular, but I've been told by the manager I interviewed with that they won't ask me questions specific to these tools

[tacit grove]

LITERALLY!!!! I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING. I'm not seeing anything open up

[cloud zinc]

Its really weird because I told him that I only know Java for OOP and how my only experience was translating legacy angular to modern react hooks, and he's all like "you'll pick it up on the job".

tru

Of course. From what I heard, this will be an informal interview where they'll show me screenshots of C# code and ask me to find the bugs

gonna review some material from my intro to SE course, then branch out from there

[tawdry nacelle]

Doesn’t help rn entry lvl positions aren’t opening up

Basically gotta go full time job hunting

[swift falcon]

W manager tbh

[cloud zinc]

I was worried about how much I rambled during the interview, but it turns out the manager was also a rambler like me.

super lucky on my part

[pine topaz]

No need to leetcode prep now

[obsidian crater]

return to onsite

RTO for interviews too

[fallen fox]

a consulting firm got back to me and now they're asking for transcripts for a 100k role

my gpa is garbage what do i do

[fossil jewel]

what level of garbage if u dont mind sharing

[fallen fox]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-26881270

[obsidian crater]

Don't you have a master's degree?

[fallen fox]

no i have a bachelor's

[obsidian crater]

oh

[fallen fox]

[fossil jewel]

hm

no comment

[obsidian crater]

Is it < 2.5

[fallen fox]

no

[obsidian crater]

< 2.0

[fallen fox]

fast enterprises

[fossil jewel]

my gpa is 0.9

[timber rock]

if you dont send it to them you have 0% chance and if you do you have >0% chance, just do it

[obsidian crater]

impossible

you can't graduate with a 0.9

My GPA is > 3.0 but still garbage tbh

[brave forge]

I realized I work at a finance company lol is that good for the resume

[fallen fox]

my gpa isn';t on my resume

💀

[fossil jewel]

i mean if its low due to liberal arts

rip

ya i used those classes as a boost tbh

[obsidian crater]

True tbh

[fossil jewel]

my biggest GPA dropping courses were the EE ones

[obsidian crater]

My GPA was bad freshman and sophomore

[fossil jewel]

but employer might care about major gpa more tbh

[fallen fox]

transcript page > save as > edit html code > gg ez 4.0 gpa

[obsidian crater]

Senior year I got a 3.7

[fallen fox]

imma do that

[fossil jewel]

just make sure you also fix the grades lol

[fallen fox]

ye

inb4 banned by mods

[fossil jewel]

depends, ik some 4.0s who dont know shit

they just keep their focus 100% on school and when it comes to applying, they dont know

[bold pier]

👀

[fossil jewel]

will depend on if resume has some keywords

there's also people with 2.8s but amazing extracurriculars who got amazing internships

dont be one dimensional

[bold pier]

laughs in 3D

[fallen fox]

i've never had anyone ask my gpa or my transcripts tbh

there are jobs with a gpa filter but i dont apply to them anyway

[hoary fern]

not good at balancing life

[fossil jewel]

doesnt PM require good social skills tbh

fair

social and organizational skills will do best here

[fresh mango]

Does PM have entry level though?

All pm positions need like 3 years of dev

[hoary fern]

there are pm intern positions

wdym by thsi

ah ya + lotsa extracurla

i wonder if my gpa cut me off from pm yet

i heard interviews are weird for pm

lik estimate how many tennis balls can fit in an airplane

or smth

[fossil jewel]

damn could be me

no fancy school tho

[fresh mango]

Did anyone here hearback from the Assoc SW position at NBC? I thought it was entry lev lool

[neon perch]

Bruh does Comcast ever respond??

[obsidian crater]

Apparently they do

Cause they hired Techie

[bold pier]

They do, with rejections!

[fresh mango]

Comcast and NBC have these SW 1 roles, don't hear anyone even interviewing

tf they doin over there

[bold pier]

Nepotism

[obsidian crater]

internal hiring probably

[neon perch]

I personally know the director at Comcast and still nothing is happening man wth

[fallen fox]

@old phoenix

[neon perch]

Could you tag techie. Would love to chat with them

[obsidian crater]

banned

[wet jacinth]

What's down my fellow brethren? Have any of you come across any new new grad openings?

[obsidian crater]

no

[timber rock]

@old phoenix3445

[compact sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-speech-bubble-gif-25718568

[swift falcon]

watched apple thing

switching to apple dev now

also tfw when vision pro expensive and u don’t have 100k+ tc job yet

[grizzled bronze]

$3.5K

[swift falcon]

im buying tbh

just hurts

[pine topaz]

Well looks like Apple will do the inevitable mass layoff like the rest of the tech industry

[swift falcon]

wdym

[dim cosmos]

cuz of the stock price?

[pine topaz]

yeah

im just kidding

[swift falcon]

did stock price go down or sth?

[dim cosmos]

wait what exactly happened to cause that lol
I heard about the headset, is it bad?

[dim cosmos]

yeah

[swift falcon]

the headset is dope af

[pine topaz]

yeah people didnt like it

except @swift falcon

[dim cosmos]

oh lol
how come?

[cloud zinc]

how fast can you "re-learn" system design if you took a system requirements and architecture course?

[dim cosmos]

good day for zuckerberg I guess

[swift falcon]

no way, zucc punching the air rn

[pine topaz]

its very inconvenient and it has 2 hr battery life,, so u cant even watcha movie without charging it to a wall

[dim cosmos]

oh

[swift falcon]

that shit was dope af

[pine topaz]

its 3.5k though...

[swift falcon]

imagine coding on that

[dim cosmos]

my god

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-mnemonic-keanu-reeves-making-a-call-what-are-you-doing-long-distance-gif-26092776

[pine topaz]

id rather goto iceland with that money

[fossil jewel]

I KNEW IT

if apple tried at the metaverse it would be overhyped

but bc no one likes facebook, it became a meme instead