2023_grads

[normal palm]

nah most reputable quant shops are looking for a t20 or under school, otherwise u wont even make the interview

[iron lily]

the interest rate hikes are to prevent ppl from borrowing

[west egret]

Maybe and maybe not

[dusky tapir]

You mean causing it 💀

[iron lily]

but Americans are still spending money at all-time high rates

[normal palm]

^^

zon screwed me for grad applications too lol

most grad app deadlines already passed

yea, i just gotta keep trying i guess

im learning opencv with c++

oh neat

i'm looking for potential project ideas maybe u could shoot me a few through dm (thx in advance)

yeah that's pretty interesting

i was thinking of doing some sort of slam implementation

[grizzled bronze]

2024 new grad grind

[bold pier]

Finding ways to not get deported

[swift falcon]

if I bitch enough in discord the negative energy will manifest into spite and form a job for me

[normal palm]

studying algos? how does one spend their summer to ensure a ng job

[ornate cliff]

grind LC cuz you gonna get one chance and one chance only 😭

[normal palm]

i doubt even that one chance with the hiring freeze (btw is it still going on?)

[ornate cliff]

which company?

[normal palm]

google, all of faang except apple i guess

[ornate cliff]

ya they all frozen af

only defense is hiring

🔫

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah but I got morals

[rain patio]

@pulsar mural

[rain patio]

For your information, Yahkuna saved many Ukrainians

[ornate cliff]

@pulsar mural gatekeeping lockheed

i been begging for referral

[grizzled bronze]

What about all the Yemenis

[ornate cliff]

instead he told me to download jump king and 1v1 him

[jaunty basalt]

For your information, Yahkuna played against bots in pubs, not ranked

[rain patio]

For your information, Yahkuna can bench 225 for reps

[whole berry]

Source?

Source:

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[obsidian crater]

<@&868936794601828492>

thanks

[raw plank]

How long to hear back from Lockheed?

[whole berry]

did you the HR questionnaire or ?

[raw plank]

No I just applied lol

Am I supposed to get smth straight away

[whole berry]

idk pal

[raw plank]

I applied may 17

tfw not even the devil will buy my soul

[steady sage]

Last time I applied at Lockheed it took them two months.

[nimble verge]

Yes

Skin color fool

[rain patio]

I'm not going to give up yet! I have a bunch of ideas for projects that I can make for my resume. I have 3 months to prepare projects and grind leetcode daily until I ascend to the next level and ace those interviews when the hiring season starts!

[sturdy aurora]

it starts next month

[rain patio]

that soon? I thought it was Fall that they started recruiting

[sturdy aurora]

fall is bigger

but yeah, it starts june

[rain patio]

Yeah I need help 😭

0 experience, 0 internships cs grad 😭

[swift falcon]

i thought you had internships

[sturdy aurora]

make an app that makes money

[rain patio]

Did so little in that internship that I might as well have not done one lol

I literally just did training

like training videos for 4 months

and then got laid off

[swift falcon]

is that not what internships consist of?

[rain patio]

nah real internships write production level code?

idk

[sturdy aurora]

that's an internshi[

u got hired

and got laid off from onboarding

[rain patio]

idk if it's worth putting it on

in my interviews, i was asked what I did, and the interviewers sounded disappointed when I explained that I didn't write code and then got laid off lol

[outer radish]

build a project and pretend you built that at the company

[static quarry]

Just lie

[swift falcon]

you didn't write any code at all?

[nimble verge]

Ofc

It’s easy

[rain patio]

nah no way i could

[nimble verge]

I got u bro

[steady sage]

just lie
this never goes wrong lol

[nimble verge]

Step 1

[rain patio]

it was a cyber security internship

[nimble verge]

Fuck a boss if u have a boss you a little bitch

Step 2

[outer radish]

the alternative is lying

[nimble verge]

Lie abt ur experience and say u can do everything

[rain patio]

or not putting it on my resume at all

[nimble verge]

Step 3

[outer radish]

i find that playing up an actual project would be better then that

[nimble verge]

Collect the money

And dip

[outer radish]

bro ngl in this market, you need something thicke on that resume

and you got paid to work

[nimble verge]

Wendy’s deez nuts in yo mouth fool

[rain patio]

yeah that's why i'm going to make a bunch of good projects

[outer radish]

thats an internship

[nimble verge]

Did u not just see my 3 steps

[steady sage]

it goes into work history, just not on a resume. A company thought you were good enough to intern with them but they had to make cuts.

or whatever

[nimble verge]

I’m @rain patio sugar daddy take my advice fool

[rain patio]

lol

[nimble verge]

No Kizzy wizzy

[swift falcon]

i realized today my graduation robes are overdue

[nimble verge]

No one cares

[swift falcon]

gonna have to pay like a $250 late fee

[nimble verge]

Bozo

$250 is pocket money

[swift falcon]

it's a racket tbh

[nimble verge]

$250 I’ll burn $250

[swift falcon]

yOu GoT SeVeN DaYs To LIVe

another way getting a master's degree has screwed me over

[nimble verge]

Degree

?

I don’t have a degree

[swift falcon]

yeah I can tell

[rain patio]

i think he means he just hates bosses idk

[nimble verge]

Bosses suck

Don’t ever have a boss

Be ur own boss

[vestal gate]

Anyone have a list of companies that are actively hiring

anywhere from the 1-3 yoe experience range

?

[grizzled bronze]

LinkedIn

[swift falcon]

Job: "Do you have embedded experience?"
Me: "I make LED go blinky"

[lilac siren]

https://github.com/ReaVNaiL/New-Grad-2024

I am not sure if they consider 2023 grads

[nimble verge]

🥱

[sturdy aurora]

I literally applied to 200 jobs with 1-3 YOE

today

There's a lot of junior roles

no New Grad

so I'll say fuck it and count my volunteer experience and freelance as YOE

[oblique wasp]

on LinkedIn?

[sturdy aurora]

yes

[teal jackal]

HI WILL

[pine topaz]

200 apps in1 day?

how r u not burnt out

[bold pier]

Bruh I've applied to like 300 1-5 yoe on LinkedIn this week, not a single one cleared resume screen yet!

[rain patio]

quick apply lol

you can send an applications in a few seconds

[pine topaz]

yeah bu tstill 200 apps in 1 day is a lot

[rain patio]

Bruh i'm watching videos of cs grads with no experience who got jobs in 2021, and their resumes are a lot less impressive than I thought they would be. Stuff that I definitely could do in the next month. 2021-2022 truly was a different era 😭

If I had graduated in 2021, I could have gotten a job with my current resume smh'

[pine topaz]

yeah in my school there were people 0 exp and got swe jobs (like literaly 0 internships and only uni projects)

[rain patio]

I have 0 xp basically 😭

[pine topaz]

nahh your resume is better than 0 xp, i believe in you

[cyan plank]

[rain patio]

yeah true but i like leetcode

way more interesting than the stuff i did in school 😭

I'm no longer in school lol

what does that mean for me

you sure? How else am I supposed to prep for coding interviews?

I'm going to work on projects as well

[grizzled bronze]

LinkedIn skills assessments

[rain patio]

huh never tried those

my goal is to get into an average company with good work/life balance that pays at least $60k

I don't want to work at some crazy competitive place

I just want a job 😭

bruh how tf do i get defense jobs

even those places just ignore my application

I'm not experienced enough apparently

ewww no

I was going to go with revature but nah sounds kinda bad

[sturdy aurora]

I am burnt out but I'd rather get a job than suicide

[severe pendant]

applied for deloitte never got call back 😭

[sturdy aurora]

So many companies have emailed me, "Your resume is outstanding but we unfortunately went with another candidate"

Like what does that mean?

LMAO

Why am I getting calls for senior roles from Tesla and other companies and nothing for new grad or junior

It's bizarre

Recruiters reach out to me

Makes 0 sense

[severe pendant]

me 2

[pine topaz]

Hopefully you guys get something soon

😦

[severe pendant]

i think defense and gov emphasizes on c/c++ which i suck at lmao

[rich prairie]

have faith in yourself, i just started leetcode myself, basically same ideology as you, i got nothing good from school, gotta grind

[rain patio]

I just want to get into web dev to start

i don't see myself doing any crazy stuff with software lol

I just want to show up, make some stuff, then get paid

maybe become an indie game dev someday

for fun tho

[rich prairie]

legit only doing python rn

ong

[sturdy aurora]

Is My Customer Moving --> Begins to hire New Grads

55 minutes later

NOT ACCEPTING APPS

WHAT

[rain patio]

BRUH HIRE ME INSTEAD SMH

I'm already trained...kinda

i have a 4 year degree!!!

😭

[arctic zealot]

do yall think its bad for new grad resume to have more space on on-campus extracurriculars/leadership roles than for personal projects?

[sturdy aurora]

Ask yourself this:

• Is it relevant to the company?

[sturdy aurora]

• Is it relevant to the role?

• Can I highlight other things that are related to the role or company if I take it out?

Remove it if the first two is a no.

Remove it if the last is a yes.

No company cares if you were Freshman President. They care about if you can do the job and have relevant experience.

Unless it's something like politics I guess

[fallen fox]

how do you interview on weekdays while working full-time

you take time off everytime you have an interview? im so fucked lmao i just started

[lofty shuttle]

getting spammed by revature phone calls 💀

wtf

[brave forge]

pretty sure just schedule it during your lunch break

if you take a 1hr lunch, that should cover any interview

[polar fox]

did anyone get reply back from blackrock yet

[fallen fox]

2024 ng role? they said they're going to look into the applications + oa from september

[fallen fox]

what if you work onsite

i can interview in my car i guess

[brave forge]

What’s a power day

Ahh ya you’d have to schedule time off for that, or tell them your leaving early

[fallen fox]

[polar fox]

oh thanks

anonymous person from blackrock looked at my linkedin so i thought i was just rejected or sth

[raw plank]

you got interview?

[fallen fox]

no

hopefully i will get one in june

[tacit grove]

for which company?

[west egret]

Spending $357 on shoes doesn’t mean you’re employed or even have money/savings. Could be going on a credit card.

[fallen fox]

i don't have an interview yet, i'm just hoping someone will interview me in June

[teal jackal]

Job hopping sounds annoying since you have to work around the fact that you have a regular job

Especially with not a lot of PTO days

[swift falcon]

we’re doomed

[tacit grove]

you're absolutely right...there is no other way other than this

[tacit grove]

this becomes an issue as some companies have a limit to the number of PTOs you can take in a month

[fallen fox]

also if you start taking PTO a month or two into your new job; it can look pretty sus

[teal jackal]

what also looks sus is taking PTO on a wednesday for no reason, regardless of YoE

If I job hop and have to do onsites I'm probably going to try to ask for Monday onsites since I can use the long weekend excuse for plausible deniability

also, leverage time zone differences if possible

[teal jackal]

yeah didnt consider that

[outer radish]

WHAT IS THIS

[fallen fox]

blackrock ng 2024

[outer radish]

on god i aced that OA they sent out

the work that I put in has finally paid off

anyone get a response from them yet tho

[fallen fox]

yeah living in the northeast helps a lot with that

[teal jackal]

it's also easier when your boss can't just fire you on the spot when he gets suspicious of you

[wet jacinth]

Don't worry, you can have 0 from my huge collection of 0.

[frank wedge]

Lol what

[teal jackal]

This isn't true? I'm just paranoid?

That's good to know

Hm

Yeah true

Thanks this helps

[swift falcon]

I have used this excuse but it was actually true

it was a thursday

and I went to work on the friday haha

oh wow you admitted to that?

ouch lol

I’ve had a few times where I overslept and had to finesse my way out of suspicion

ofc those are always the days the boss texts you right at the beginning of the day and you wake up and immediately panic because it’s sat for like 45 min

so now I just set an alarm to wake up and clock in a half hour early, check emails and texts, and then snooze for a bit longer until I have to get my kids ready

[normal palm]

Arcane is so good

[west pagoda]

Codesignal scoring is not the same anymore

I finished 1, 2, 4 and skipped 3 -> 500 WTF

yes

"reviously, the General Coding Framework used a 600-850 score range, and other Frameworks produced a raw score out 1,000. Now, when you complete a skills evaluation that is framework-based, your coding score will range from 200-600 and your coding report will give visibility into the mastery of individual skills being evaluated."

^idk what this means...are scores out of 600 now for general coding assessment?

Oh ok then 500 isnt too bad

^if that's the case that it's out of 600...they only mention framework based

[timber rock]

can't wait for recruiters to not realise it got changed and reject everyone for getting 5-600s

[hardy geyser]

any recommendations for places to apply outside of indeed linkedin glassdoor angellist? for canada if that matters

[raw plank]

Which company u took codesignal for? Also do u remember what kind of question you got for 4? I struggle with those

[raw plank]

I use handshake thru my university

[swift locust]

Very few Canadian unis are on Handshake, ask me how I know 🥲

[hardy geyser]

ohh i haven't heard of that, unfortunately i already graduated so not sure if i would have access even if it did exist (U Alberta)

[rain patio]

handshake is a desert for me. I already applied to everything relevant a month ago 😭

[fossil jewel]

you are lol

life happens

[pulsar mural]

la gata

[fossil jewel]

did you graduate yet

[pulsar mural]

[teal jackal]

Congrats yakhuna

[bright pewter]

dont work at publicis sapient

they just screwed everyone over

by pushing the start date for spring graduate of 2023 to april 2024

[grizzled bronze]

Congrats! I'm proud of you

[outer radish]

AYO WTF

[crystal steppe]

What are handshakes?

[bright pewter]

yeah they fuck the entire cohort not just Atlanta group but the entire United States group

[timber rock]

publicis sapient rejected me after sys design so i asked my recruiter for feedback and they said i did well on the actual sys design part but my answer to what is your favourite programming language was not detailed enough

[fresh mango]

Ford gives out interviews rarely or am I just being ghosted every time 🥲

[teal jackal]

I think it can be random

[teal jackal]

Don't take it too personally

[iron lily]

most major consulting firms including Deloitte moved start dates to 2024

my Deloitte offer got pushed to January 2024 so I had to get another offer and reneg

[normal palm]

bruh

[rain patio]

bruh what did they expect you to say? Something about how every day you pray to a picture of python or something? smh

maybe you dodged a red flag

[timber rock]

I dunno

Maybe my interviewer doesn’t like python enjoyers

what is more generic than python

java?

[obsidian crater]

how is saying python a red flag

[timber rock]

😂

if liking python is a red flag to a company i don’t wanna work there

[pine topaz]

your suppose to say "I dont have one because I touch grass"

[obsidian crater]

A red flag is saying "My favorite language is Haskell/C++/Erlang/Brainfuck"

[rain patio]

i guess python is too hip and cool for this day and age. Gotta be a fan of a legacy language or something

[obsidian crater]

I mean it makes sense to say your fav language = team's language

In an interview you wanna kiss ass much ass as possible I guess

[timber rock]

it’s a consultancy

[ornate cliff]

what codesignal score do I need for Block phone interview?

[rain patio]

"I enjoy the intricacies of COBOL and have been using COBOL since before I was born 🤓 "
gets the job

[timber rock]

it’s not like i was interviewing for a specific team

u are way overthinking this LOL

what

go???

where are u seeing go jobs lol

probably not even close to the top 5 here

[rain patio]

I'm a Java main 🤓

[timber rock]

Python is one of the biggest languages here I dunno where you’re getting your info

I’ve never experienced that but fair enough

[bold pier]

That's a very reddit like sentiment

[timber rock]

Yeah hahaha

[bold pier]

People who openly hate or love languages don't come across as really good developers

[timber rock]

Cool I am

[ornate cliff]

Ramp uses python for backend

built on Flask

I choked the interview tho 😭

[bold pier]

So many companies use Django and Flask for their backend

Java, Spring, Hibernate is prime consultancy tech stack

[timber rock]

Yea

[bold pier]

Fuck I regret learning Angular instead of React

All companies are React shop now

[timber rock]

I did a multiple choice spring oa for cognizant and that was enough to know I don’t wanna touch it

[fossil jewel]

wow look at you

[timber rock]

React is ez, if you already know how to web dev you can pick it up fast

[fossil jewel]

cant believe you graduated from pre-k @pulsar mural

[bold pier]

No, 80% of of jobs I am seeing on LinkedIn are asking for react

[swift falcon]

I really want a spring job

[fossil jewel]

go for fall instead

[bold pier]

It was what they used at my first job, so I used it for 3 years

[swift falcon]

spring booty

i just think it's neat

[fossil jewel]

spring is nice

[swift falcon]

I just dipped my toes into it this morning tbh

literally

[timber rock]

angular is actually kinda good

[fossil jewel]

some teams in my company are still angular based

many use react

[bold pier]

Not gonna lie though, Spring Boot + Hibernate + Angular is amazing to work on.

[swift falcon]

I thought that was the case and angular was dying and outdated, but had some other people in a different discord be like hell nah

and then I took a second look at angular and it seemed kinda cool

[bold pier]

Observables work pretty well for CRUD websites though, not sure about more complex use cases

[swift falcon]

I have 0 web experience so I have no idea what the merits of those are

[fossil jewel]

slow and steady

backend dev is more fun

[swift falcon]

I mean I know what observables are from javafx, and I was amazed when I discovered them

[fossil jewel]

but if you like visual stuff, UI can be fun too

[timber rock]

front end is a necessary evil we must suffer through 😔

[fossil jewel]

thats state management stuff right?

observables?

[bold pier]

I like to do Photoshop. I wish there were jobs where I could do Photoshop + Backend

[swift falcon]

if I could get a job doing JavaFX stuff I would love it, but alas nobody wants desktop apps

[fossil jewel]

javaFX is dead

learn spring or do kotlin

[swift falcon]

no tf it aint

how is spring an alternative to javafx tho

they're like 2 different things

yikes

[bold pier]

True, anyway.. Angular is dying slowly. It lives only through developers who already learnt it and can't let go.

[swift falcon]

y'all can leave the Java jobs to me

[fossil jewel]

spring is actually used by places

[swift falcon]

i'll do them

[swift falcon]

yeah, but spring is not replacing javafx

[fossil jewel]

i havent seen any javafx requirement lol

[swift falcon]

do you mean swing?

[fossil jewel]

no

[fossil jewel]

different domains

[swift falcon]

yeah that's my point

[fossil jewel]

java library for UI

yeah javaFx is dead tho

[bold pier]

Who uses Java for UI WTF

[swift falcon]

wow

y'all are wildin

[fossil jewel]

people will do either electron or QT

[bold pier]

Did no one learn anything after JSP

[swift falcon]

Java is the best language don't @ me

[bold pier]

@swift falcon

[fossil jewel]

i mean if you see a posting to a job requiring javaFX then by all means

[swift falcon]

well they are like non existent so I see your point if we're talking about practicality

[fossil jewel]

if you wanna do mobile dev, can go with kotlin tho

[swift falcon]

I don't like kotlin

[bold pier]

Kotlin vs React native, thoughts?

[fossil jewel]

react native multi-platform

a fair comparison would be flutter vs react native vs actual native with two different codebases

i think if you know JS/regular react (or can pair it with TS), go with react native

if you like verbose langs, flutter(dart)

dart is basically python and java/c++ had a child

[bold pier]

Aren't they different, you need to learn React for Web and React native for Mobile

[fossil jewel]

the learning curve wont be huge tho

from one to the other

[bold pier]

Oki, who wanna make a project with me?

[fossil jewel]

the one thing i'll say, flutter tooling on vscode is amazing

[bold pier]

I'm sold, React is the way

[fossil jewel]

eh had to do it for a class

[bold pier]

I've heard Playstation new UI is made using React

and it's amazing

[swift falcon]

there is a local state DoT job that is advertising for angular + java, which sounds like heaven for me tbh

[fossil jewel]

its not bad if you can do typed langs

can get very messy

yeah state management gave me a headache for flutter

once i figured it out tho it wasnt bad

null safety a big thing for flutter

so you're forced to write the code that wont fail at runtime

yeah

you have to use the ! and ? operators a lot

[bold pier]

I noped out of Mobile dev and frontend coz of earning potential,
Backend and Distributed systems jobs pay much more with years of experience

[fossil jewel]

i def wanna look into distributed more

i think ebay uses it

https://flutter.dev/showcase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ipUgXH6jw

dart only revived bc of flutter

it was dead prior

[bold pier]

True, it's just that entry level SDE I and II jobs the pay is very similar for Frontend or Backend devs. It's only after few levels you see the real difference.

[fossil jewel]

google being google

honestly react just using typical js makes it a stronger contender

imo i just find js funky

[swift falcon]

.... which has been criticized as an evil tech corporation

[fossil jewel]

and im not front end oriented

i like matching colors tho lol

figma is quite fun

[swift falcon]

figma balls

[bold pier]

Figma has best multiplayer

[fossil jewel]

yeah tbh

hard to do data engineering as a ng and thats why i kinda picked it

it has potential and gives you a good overview of how systems are designed

yah i think for that purpose, going to distributed is gonna be a less steep curve

can always switch internally after a year

yeah pretty much a slow experience since im more or less new

ya my manager is open and encouraging me to look around and dabble with improving stuff

nah he's actually encouraging me to do readings/get certs and explore stuff

bank 👀

did you do swe?

i would

damn

seems that you changed course now tho

[delicate lantern]

Oh hey I have two one month internships on my resume should I just put that it was from Dec - Jan

Instead of just Jan - Jan

They were just winter internships

Are recruiters that specific on it?

Ya

Ya probably not the best idea then

[fossil jewel]

me lol

chasing the bag

[obsidian crater]

Take the green pill

The benjamin pill

[final ore]

Is 65k with no benefits a good salary with no years of experience? In Georgia

[sturdy aurora]

do u have another offer

get 1 yoe

dip

if not take other offer

hard rn

[final ore]

No i don't.... my amazon offer was rescinded... so no choice...

[final ore]

Ive been in this company for 6 months so far.... do you think hiring starts again in aug till dec?

[static quarry]

Wait amazon rescinded??

I thought they only pushed back?

[final ore]

No mine was late 2022 offer... they promised to push it to 2023 but rescinded

[static quarry]

😭😭 thats so unfortunate

Rescinded gang

[final ore]

Yeahh...😭😭

[sturdy aurora]

Job offers are crazy hard rn

[grizzled bronze]

Should be enough for a single guy living in Georgia

Accept and then if you find something better rescind

[sturdy aurora]

i got a kid, mortgage, and everything

my clock ticking

imma die before i hit 25

[final ore]

Yeah.. im so depressed.... got an offer for 130k and now doing for half of it...

[rain patio]

still not bad

Meanwhile i have no offers 😦

[marble ivy]

they just pushed back 6 months

[marble ivy]

this is rly good in this market, cuz most ppl dont even have a job

[distant pebble]

Is this Atlanta?

It’s def on lower end of spectrum but livable imo

I live in Atlanta for school and avg apt would prob be around 1700/month so u prob have around 30k yr to spend on other expenses

[final ore]

Yeahh for an international like me... i came here for earning money for my business investment back in my country and i can live only for 3 to 4 years here.... I can't save more if i can't earn more... tbh im living under 1k a month rn....

[distant pebble]

have u tried negoing?

[final ore]

Exact recruiter words "Either take this offer or leave... we have more than 200 candidates if we post a job for 10 minutes"

[distant pebble]

are u on like visa where u have to find employment in 60 days or leave? hm i'd prob sign the offer then maybe apply to more jobs and renege if u get better offer

[final ore]

That's what I'm doing right now.... i am on f1 opt something like same as you mentioned but the grace period is for 90 days....

[distant pebble]

i see, how much time do u have left?

i think if u still have time u could just sign the offer and then push start date by like 1 month

[final ore]

Rn i have like 75 or so....😭😭😭

[distant pebble]

that way u can apply for other jobs in the meantime

[final ore]

Alright I'll do that... thanks mate!

[frank wedge]

Gross, Reyna main

[final ore]

Lmao

[tacit grove]

anyone noticed any company actively recruiting for new-grads?

[raw plank]

he doesnt know

[narrow harbor]

anyone interviewed at epic before? i have an interview with them tomorrow

[elder narwhal]

When will they start recruiting new grads 😭

[fallen fox]

do both

[brave forge]

LETS GO

[fallen fox]

2x sofi reject here

first interview they only asked me two sum and basic ood

🔫

[lone rapids]

No way u fked 2 sum

[fallen fox]

no

[lone rapids]

Then what’s the issue?

[fallen fox]

they asked me basic react trivia i couldnt answer

it was on my resume

[lone rapids]

Oh yea i feel you. I should remove react from my resume too. I cannot answer any trivia

[fallen fox]

third times the charm

<@&868936794601828492>

[raw plank]

epic apparently is like a cult so you have to let them know you love the company and you love health and shit

when i interviewed recently the ones doing the phone interviews were volunteering to do so

[lunar hatch]

for snowflake?

[raw plank]

but tbh I didnt get offer so my opinion doesnt mean much

[rain patio]

anyone know if doing a payment gateway integration project w/ Stripe API for a fake ecommerce (coffee beans) site is a good backend project?

[grizzled bronze]

LGTM

[bold pier]

Approved

[narrow harbor]

mmm makes sense been seeing a couple reddit post how epic is shitty ty tt

[raw plank]

you should still definitely go for it, just saying your interviewer has prob been sipping the kool aid for years

[narrow harbor]

oh yeah still definitely going for it just for the interview practice

already did the 4 hour assessment lmaooo so might as well do the interview

[severe pendant]

i heard that the onsite is almost a guarantee for the job as long as u passed the 4 hour assessment

[marble ivy]

a no leetcode 30 min interview, 200k offer in nyc

[brave forge]

tbf they had a leetcode OA before it, but they just reviewed during the interview

[fallen fox]

a friend of mine: graduated 2021 with zero internships; blank resume; got a 150k offer at IEX a month after graduating

also no leetcode in the interview loop

[placid sail]

what was their portfolio like

[fallen fox]

he has a bachelor's degree in computer engineering from a big school in new jersey and that's it

i hope he isn't in this server

[placid sail]

2021 was a bless time rip

[brave forge]

take me back

instead in 2024 we will have about 500 companies hiring new-grads and probably in a volume of like 100 for a big company and a lot less at other companis and there will be multiple rounds with LC medium and hard questions

[placid sail]

as long as theres enough jobs idgaf

[iron lily]

I wonder how those ppl are doing now 🤔

[sonic coral]

Most amazon new grads got their offers postponed

[marble ivy]

i was one of those people and did amazing on my talent review for 2022, i was on track for promotion to L5 later this year

then half my dept including me got laid off

leetcode is useless and doesn’t correlate to ur swe skills

[marble ivy]

Ya but u could cheat on the OA

[ornate cliff]

That's if you ace the OA they just go over your answer, ask some LP questions, and boom done

Things were so simple

[bold pier]

Damn, slowly dying inside with one rejection mail after another. It's not stopping.

[brave forge]

i combat that by not applying at all

[outer radish]

anyone have any good tips to prep for an itnerview tomorrow

[grizzled bronze]

Each rejection is getting you closer to an offer!

[bold pier]

Offer to interview with god

[grizzled bronze]

Certainly! Here are some tips to help you prepare for your interview tomorrow:

Research the company: Gain a solid understanding of the company's history, values, culture, and recent news. This knowledge will enable you to ask relevant questions and show your interest in the organization.

Review the job description: Familiarize yourself with the requirements and responsibilities of the position you're interviewing for. Be prepared to explain how your skills and experience align with the role.

Prepare answers to common interview questions: Practice answering typical interview questions, such as "Tell me about yourself," "Why are you interested in this role?", and "What are your strengths and weaknesses?" Prepare concise and compelling responses that highlight your qualifications and achievements.

Showcase your accomplishments: Prepare specific examples from your past experiences that demonstrate your skills and achievements. These examples will help you answer behavioral questions effectively and provide evidence of your capabilities.

Dress appropriately: Dress professionally for the interview, even if it's a remote or video interview. Make sure your attire is suitable for the company culture and the position you're applying for.

Be punctual: Plan to arrive early for an in-person interview or log in a few minutes before the scheduled time for a remote interview. Punctuality demonstrates your respect for the interviewer's time and shows your professionalism.

Practice good body language: Maintain eye contact, sit up straight, and exhibit confidence through your body language. Avoid fidgeting or crossing your arms, as these can convey nervousness or disinterest.

Prepare your own questions: Prepare a list of thoughtful questions to ask the interviewer. This shows your genuine interest in the role and helps you gather valuable information about the company and position.

Follow up with a thank-you note: After the interview, send a personalized thank-you note to the interviewer(s) expressing your appreciation for their time and reiterating your interest in the position. This gesture demonstrates your professionalism and can leave a positive impression.

Remember to stay calm, be yourself, and showcase your unique qualities and qualifications. Good luck with your interview!

[brave forge]

ngl i actually do all of these

and i landed my intern job

in like 1 week

[outer radish]

does chatgpt have any suggestions on not getting absolutely raw dogged by an unexpected question?

[fallen fox]

i have experience

just end call

[outer radish]

💀

this guys got tenacity!

let's call him back and hire him!

[pine topaz]

chatgpt it durinfg the interview

[outer radish]

what are the odds that this is possible

[pine topaz]

fake it till you make ti

[brave forge]

make till it fake you

[grizzled bronze]

new year, fake me

[outer radish]

🐱

[fallen fox]

no one else needs to know

[wet jacinth]

Guys, how are we doing on this day of wednes?

[outer radish]

Welcome to Wendys! Try out new Ghost Pepper Ranch dipping sauce with our famous nuggies for only 2.99! Fresh never frozen! Please wait for someone to take your order!

[rain patio]

sad, depressed

working at a buffet to pay my bills

[wet jacinth]

as an international, I can't even do that 😢

https://tenor.com/view/nihilism-meseeks-pain-depressed-depression-gif-9538527

[rain patio]

brooo that sucks

[whole berry]

Hello

I need resume critique from the regulars in here who got a job etc

Who wanna rip me a new one

[rain patio]

you think we have jobs here 😭

[brave forge]

https://tenor.com/view/there-are-so-many-exciting-new-jobs-out-there-alec-baldwin-donald-trump-saturday-night-live-new-jobs-gif-17197594

time to go work in the coal mines

[rain patio]

LOL

i'd work in the coal mines if they paid $20/hr

and gave me a gas mask or something to filter out the coal dust

I certainly don't know 😭

[brave forge]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-gif-24581765

[grizzled bronze]

Like an internship offer letter, except it's for full-time

[brave forge]

when i got one for my intern it looked like this

oh i left a name on that

anyways they send you a docusign

[bold pier]

Oh I miss docusign

[flat osprey]

when do companies start their background checks usually? I start mid july and I still haven't got any email from them yet

[rain patio]

I usually just look for the dollar signs on the letter

[grizzled bronze]

Payscale is the latest new grad role on LinkedIn, 825 apps already https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3621769725/

[brave forge]

fkin hell man how do we have any chance

i keep trying to tell myself it's going to be okay in 2024 but damn if every single job that pops up gets 1k apps in the first few hours and 10k in 1 day how do we even get through the filter

and that's if your top-notch, even with 2 interships and a 3.8 gpa and some good projects and skills in full stack dev, c++, cloud, and mobile i dont really see how I can compete against T20 uni students with 4 big-tech interns and flashy projects they got help with at uni

[grizzled bronze]

Focus less on the competition, and more on your applications

Right now new grad listings are slowing down

More of them will open up around summer/fall

[brave forge]

ya im waiting for that. Just have to keep prepping and try my best this summer, if I can just get a return offer ill be so much more confident and less worried about the new-grad search. it'll just be for practice to see if i can get a higher paying offer at that point

wont rly know till august so the next 2 months are just going to be prep time

[pure mauve]

wait didnt this company go bankrupt lmfao

or was that a similar company

[bold pier]

Bruh,
I just got rejection mail before application confirmation mail, wtf

[bright pewter]

That shit is wild

[bold pier]

Same my friend, close to 1.5k apps now. Few recruiters reached out and ghosted, that's all!

[bright pewter]

I feel like the government side is the play right now since the economy is so volatile

[grizzled bronze]

Nope, must of been a diff one

[rain patio]

Holy....

1500!? It's over for me then

I'm just going to grind projects and leetcode until the start of the next hiring season, which I assume is in the Fall?

My resume and experience are so basic that I can't really do quality lol

[bold pier]

Tried referrals, cold emails, cover letters, reaching out to recruiters after applying, job fairs, etc as well. The market is shit.

[rain patio]

Lol self employed

[outer radish]

anyone with internships stil doing projects?

looking to pour some time, but not sure if its just better spent purely leetcoding and system design

[fallen fox]

[solemn spire]

someone did.

[pine topaz]

Seniors

what are they doing applying to NGs

[ornate cliff]

wtf they have enough jobs to apply to

frigg off seniors

[pine topaz]

gotta pay the mortgage and provide food for the kids

[ornate cliff]

they can use severance for that

[pine topaz]

, i wonder if companies will take a senior for NG

[ornate cliff]

no way

[bold pier]

Databricks NG rejected me coz I had experience!

[timber rock]

tbh

u should just apply and not look at this stuff

no point in even thinking about it

[bold pier]

Yes, I'm international. Most applications in last 3-4 months, though started last year.

Yes it's sad, getting ghosted by WITCH also

I literally have 1 upcoming interview that too for a job in Taiwan, time to move I guess

[rain patio]

bro 😭

[normal palm]

yoo taiwan has the highest IQ average in the world i believe, that's an upgrade

cha-ching

[bold pier]

IQs not gonna pay my bills

[normal palm]

one way to find out

[bold pier]

USD?

I know, I'd take that in a heartbeat

Sad, whats your yoe?

Refer me bro, I have practical exp ._.

It's cool, hope we meet in Taiwan few years down the line

[rain patio]

do they speak english in taiwan? I don't know much about it, but it's probably a pretty hi tech country since they make a lot of circuits and stuff

would be scary bordering china tho

[grizzled bronze]

Jesus, $59K monthly 🤑

[dawn sequoia]

YAHKUNA

[grizzled bronze]

MATADA

[outer radish]

this just goes to show, even when u go to a rando* school like mine

you can always secure the bag

[marble ivy]

this happened to me at jp morgan chase

i applied to a role that required 1 yoe, they found someone with 5 and literally updated the job posting from Junior to Senior and added 5+ yoe in the desc

[fallen fox]

ewkd;,;rewoueljcnx; ;,

0 interviews in may 🪢

[pearl swan]

[obsidian marsh]

anyone done spaceX interview? what’s the process

[drifting nova]

taiwan job?

[bold pier]

June is here, where are all the jobs we were promised?

[timber rock]

wait till tomorrow trust me

[fallen fox]

wheres zon ng

in 3 weeks i hope

[distant pebble]

surely amazon will honors 6 months agreement

[umbral sun]

Linkedin

[timber rock]

amazon just pushed all new grad start dates back 6 months in the UK yesterday

it’s all over

[west egret]

I trust you bro

[timber rock]

[fallen fox]

We have ultimately decided to move forward with other candidates at this time.

who are these candidates

i wanna look at their resume

[brave forge]

Stalk the company LinkedIn, when someone gets added with the role you were interviewing for you will know what their resume was.

Then build a profile of that person. Show up outside their home while they wfh. Harass them online on LinkedIn with fake accounts that say “I worked with Mime before and he was the most rude and incompetent programmer I’ve met” on his posts so his coworkers begin to suspect him. Siphon the gas from his car in the morning so he shows up late to work . Report him to the fbi for illegal software activities so they start looking into his network traffic .

[grizzled bronze]

You got SoFi though, what's the point

[tacit grove]

It literally hurts to another degree, especially when they don't give back constructive feedback...like it's indirectly saying thanks and bye

[grizzled bronze]

Sucks, but due to legal reasons most companies don't

You get better at telling where you messed up though as you interview more

[timber rock]

if you respond to the email asking for feedback the recruiter will probably call you

i have never been told no when asking for feedback

[grizzled bronze]

You've been getting lucky, always worth asking though. Most of the times I've gotten ghosted after asking, sometimes I've gotten answers.

[obtuse sparrow]

your sofi offer is in london?

[hoary fern]

londons cool but ive only visited

[timber rock]

london is amazing

[south kettle]

Anyone get BlackRock ng oa yet?

[hoary fern]

is it auto

[grizzled bronze]

Nice, good luck! Would be cool to intern there

[hoary fern]

ah yea

[obtuse sparrow]

is ok if i dm u real quick

[timber rock]

tax probably wouldnt be too bad

our lowest bracket is 0% and most interns will be in that

[fallen fox]

[outer radish]

did anyone hear back from blackrock?

[shut thistle]

2024?

[timber rock]

well i've only done it 5 times or so but yeah

expedia, capital one, a couple other tech companies and banks and some startups all did

[outer radish]

yeah

[timber rock]

lol

[fallen fox]

https://careers.blackrock.com/early-careers/americas/?2023-2024

[west pagoda]

How do y’all feel about/deal with the idea that software will no longer be the easy play it was but will instead become similar to finance: i.e potentially very lucrative but saturated and quite hard to succeed in

[grizzled bronze]

I don't feel anything

[polar fox]

did people who applied to blackrock 2024 complete the hirevue already?

just got the email to complete them within 5 days

[fallen fox]

microsft mass reject

[wooden jay]

Has anyone heard of 2nd June, i.e. tomorrow, being a Virtual Hiring Day at JPMC?

[gilded swan]

Get into CS only for fun because getting a job is nearly impossible right now.

[grizzled bronze]

I've heard of 2nd June

[fallen fox]

aintnoway the market is going to back to 2019 - early 2022

[sonic coral]

Most people in the US barely do leetcode and aren’t even aware of what codeforces is so we’re quite a ways away from that

[outer radish]

tbh at the end of the day it doesnt matter what other people do

[sonic coral]

Like I literally didn’t even know what codeforces was until some Indian people told me

[outer radish]

if you can build shit and pass interviews thats what matters

[split plaza]

Did you get an email

[fresh mango]

Microsoft rejecting w referrals too

[gilded swan]

What about security?

[sonic coral]

Security is a bitch to get into entry level

[timber rock]

tech is over. please leave the industry so it’s easier for everyone else 👍

[bold pier]

My recruiter told me tech is over

[pine topaz]

My CEO keeps telling us we are in a recession in townhalls

Tech is over

[bold pier]

Then he follows that up with bonus and promotions are cancelled?

[pine topaz]

Hes gonna followup with another mass layoff in the future

[bold pier]

Yeah, I guess all those toxic reddit folks were doing us a favor

[gilded swan]

If you bring up Reddit you might get charged $

[raw plank]

Tech is over = my life is over

Gg

[steady sage]

(Reddit could die tomorrow and I would be a much happier person)

Of course they are. APIs are expensive.

it's all cost/benefit

I still use old.reddit

better than the Mobile UI abomination of NuReddit

they'd have to ask more money from Daddy China for that.

watches as my social credit score plummets

Reddit could simply...make their stuff better

but that's too simple

having to work in SanFran

Also it's all Principal, Staff and Senior positions

lol

[split plaza]

can Microsoft hurry up and reject me ffs

[steady sage]

no can do, must wait another month

[grizzled bronze]

For what role?

[split plaza]

MAIDAP

[grizzled bronze]

Lol they haven't rejected me yet either

[split plaza]

[grizzled bronze]

It's been a couple months so I'm assuming rejection

[steady sage]

So I gotta ask, who learned Ruby during their classes?

Because I'm wondering what these employers who are looking for Freshers with Ruby experience are getting people from.

[obsidian crater]

projects or internships

[steady sage]

Sure I guess.

[obsidian crater]

job descriptions are wish lists

not "you have to have this" to even breathe in our prescence

they're usually made by HR or people that don't know shit

like so many entry level security jobs require CISSP, a certification that requires 5 years of industry experience

[steady sage]

Yeah I try to keep that in mind, but all the rejections aren't helping to reinforce that point

[obsidian crater]

It's just dumb HR

sorry mane

I know that feel

Can't get anything either

[swift falcon]

bro i been eyeing this state govt job for like 3 weeks but it’s so hard to sit down and apply in the format they want

I have to like put a skill down and then put my background for the skill or how I relate to it, there’s a whole template

I’m gonna spend like 3 hours doing this and get rejected

[bold pier]

Use ChatGPT somehow?

[swift falcon]

dang that’s not a bad idea

[jovial latch]

Govt jobs have like the worst apps lol

[grizzled bronze]

New Relic removed their Associate SWE job listing within an hour of posting

[split plaza]

[fallen fox]

i sent 173 applications in May and had 0 interviews

🔫

[eternal spruce]

welcome to the club.

[fallen fox]

at this rate i will likely stay jobless until the end of this year 🙉

🍌

[eternal spruce]

have you tried referrals?

[fallen fox]

no

[pulsar mural]

[spice axle]

Yoyo, so I am graduating next year (april 2024) and I have a lot of time this summer. So far I have a total of 1 year of SE experience (6 months volunteering + 4 month internship). Since I am only taking 1 course this summer, I am planning to spend that time on LC grind which I havent done much of yet and I have a few project ideas that I wanna work towards. Any other tips on spending my summer wisely so by the time I start applying for new grad positions, I am more ready?

[jovial latch]

Ah look at this guy trying to prepare for all the bs to come

Fuckin wish someone told me a year ago things would be so shit

[spice axle]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-crying-face-gif-20235014

I learned cause I was hoping to land an internship this summer but that didnt go well LOL

[jovial latch]

some people have this delusional belief that things will improve, its not lol, its about to get a whole lot worse when you have '24 graduates who actually know whats to come and are doing everything they can while they have time

no

recruiters dont look at that shit

[gray niche]

cold msging got me an internship at linkedin (they said it didn't help but I got an OA invitation almost 20 minutes later) but granted that was before the economy flushed itself down the toilet

[obsidian crater]

Rope

[gilded swan]

It’s all a numbers game. More apps more chances. More projects more chances. More experience more chances. More fake experience more chances. Oops last one was an accident.

[jovial latch]

ha

something like thousand apps -> 10 callbacks -> 1 offer in this shithole of an economy

[teal jackal]

Yes

[rain patio]

Employers be like: 🫵😂

"You want a new grad SWE job? Sorry, minimum 10 YOE"

For $50k/year

CS is going to become underpaid and ultra competitive

Won't be worth it anymore 😭

LOL

can't be a senior dev if you can't even get an entry level job 😦

I hope this whole hiring freeze comes back to bite employers

Screw those people smh

[rain patio]

Soon they'll cry about not having enough senior developers

[jovial latch]

lol no

[rain patio]

And then the people trying to get into entry level will be like "maybe if you hired more entry level devs, you'd have more seniors by now..."

it's so dumb

how is this sustainable

sure training is expensive, but then you get a ton of seniors in 5 years

[jovial latch]

entry level is bloated, but its bloated by a buncha fucking idiots who cant fucking do fizz buzz, fucking over capable people

i mean, i have a job
it is true though theres been a push in recent years to 'learn to code' and a ltota people dont know what they be doing

or maybe im just fucking annoyed at how much higher the hiring bar became in a year and how all my friends graduated in 2022 and landed cushy nyc with easy interview processes even though they dont knoiw shit

yea i only spend every day thinking about how i should just ignored my interests and not gotten a masters degree

i mean god knows how far back that sets my career, 2022 job vs 2023 job

cause i was fuckin interested and wanted to learn stuff, and mainly cause it didnt require any extra time

i coulda graduated in 3 with a bachelros but it didnt feel right

i just spend every day now thinking what a waste it all was

[swift falcon]

how do you get referrals, it’s not like applying where they’re out there

[frank wedge]

Who asked

[rain patio]

I'm so envious of 2021 and 2022 grads

literally graduated at the best time ever

THey keep telling me "It'S jUsT yOuR rEsUmE"

yeah sure

[jovial latch]

wasnt a cs masters funnily enough, it was a masters degree in machine learning, cause i figured that would become very relevant, took a buncha cloud shit in my last year too

but apparently the real answer was to just graduate in 2022 like everyone else, interests be damned

[ashen coral]

Hello friends. Anyone moving to the bay (ideally San Mateo) and looking for roommates?

[jovial latch]

thats what i get for being ambitious

[rain patio]

did you get a job there? 😭

if so, how

[ashen coral]

Yup

[ashen coral]

Internship

[rain patio]

lucky 😭

When did u apply

[ashen coral]

I’m looking at San Mateo or sf

Somewhere North bay

[ashen coral]

Like last year?

[rain patio]

oh dang

yeah ur all set 😭

[ashen coral]

Skill, not luck.

[rain patio]

Suuure

I applied to over 300 places in the past 2 months and have nothing

2022 was way easier it sounds like

[ashen coral]

I dunno man. All my friends are unemployed

[rain patio]

I should have applied back then

[ashen coral]

Even the ones that got laid off / offers pulled two months ago

[rain patio]

rip

So either you're god tier or lucky idk

[obsidian crater]

I'm so sick of there being no entry level positions

so tragic

[rain patio]

Idk how to stand out anymore

I just can't compete when years of experience is the measuring bar

ft

[ashen coral]

Fact. Masters aren’t as respected from what I’ve seen. It’s viewed as a career change

[rain patio]

yeah no one told me that...

I didn't join this sub until a month ago lol

[obsidian crater]

I've been applying since last summer lol

Most places just ghosted or froze

[rain patio]

I wish I had known about this channel back when I started college in 2019 😭

[obsidian crater]

yeah unfortunately

I don't need a visa to start working though, I can work for 3 years without sponsorship.

yeah

true that

rip

I just tell them outright

no point going through 4 rounds then getting rejected

[fallen fox]

if the hiring manager likes you enough; there might be some cases where they're willing to ignore your visa status

[rain patio]

uhhhh occasionally, but I thought the stuff they talked about was for super tryhards who wanted to work at top companies

I just want a regular job 😦

yeah fr lol

[ashen coral]

It’s okay

New grad hiring for 2024 opens in a few months

[fallen fox]

2024 ng is gonna be a shitshow

[rain patio]

I just got a call for a client support job (non software related lol)

It said it was a remote job when I applied, but they told me it's in person when they called

But it's actually really really close to where I live, like about 2 miles away, so that's not too bad

And it pays $16.5/hr

That'll keep me alive until I can get a software job

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

Going from a $12/hr part time buffet job to a $16.5/hr full time customer support job isn't so bad hehe

I'm basically getting a 37.5% per hour raise!

[eternal spruce]

Idk if you have this in the US but in the Uk we have something career fairs. Either company tells potential job offering or you display your projects to a HR. (Obv this is in real life)

It’s not always HR. But it someone from the company

[fallen fox]

we have career fairs here too

[eternal spruce]

If they like you they will referee you.

[fallen fox]

that's how i got my first internship

[rain patio]

Maybe I can work my way up from customer support to SWE

Oh wait this is an IT support job lol

hmmmm

[fallen fox]

it support > swe is difficult

don't get pigeonholded and keep applying to swe jobs

[ashen coral]

For the really good companies, their career fair/open house are invite only

[jovial latch]

bro if they're paying you that little you could probably make more working at the local taco bell

[rain patio]

how come

[jovial latch]

and no you cant go from customer support to swe, shit dont work like that lol

[rain patio]

I'll already have some experience with the business. And I already know how to code...

I'll be better suited than some fresh new grad

[jovial latch]

i mean it is possible but that shit takes like, years id think
it doesnt matter, they're making him show up on-site for 16 bucks an hour

which i mean, just work at tacobell or the local grocery store at that poitn

bro i havent had taco bell in a long time, i only found out last friday the quesarito doesnt exist anymore

[ashen coral]

I also do not think it is possible to make the transition from support to SWE easily.

The responsibility and tasks of the roles are vastly different and unless you are in a small company, there is little exposure between departments

I also feel like people who say “they know how to code” or just describe the SWE role as coding tend not to be really in the know of the industry

[sonic coral]

IT could lead to an SRE transition in the future

But more likely from like a sysadmin role vs a support role

[rain patio]

Anythings possible

[ashen coral]

That I’ve seen happen

[sonic coral]

Because the skills from sysadmin do transfer over to sre

But also does depend on the company

Because some treat sysadmins as glorified support

[grizzled bronze]

you just agreed with him, it's not just coding

[oblique wasp]

Mf**Rs will burn in hell!!
I kept that stupid project question for later

[grizzled bronze]

Ouch. I typed it out fast and then used ChatGPT to polish it up.

[oblique wasp]

If the position opens up then please lmk 🙏🏻

[sonic coral]

lol coding for me is like prob 40-50%, rest is design, dealing with stakeholders and meetings

[grizzled bronze]

Fuck, I guess I'll pursue a Masters. I trust in your predictions Yahkuna, keep them coming.

[sonic coral]

I would def not say it’s MOSTLY coding

Yeah I imagine at a startup you’re doing most coding

At big tech half your job is red tape

And then as you move up you just get into more abstract processes further away from code

Agile is chill tbh

Yeah like if you have a micromanager no matter what philosophy you have it’ll suck

Well micro managers suck

Some managers are goated

Design docs and meetings mostly for L3

There is lots of coding still but I’d say prob like half of the job is coding

It does depend on the company tho, like amazon has less red tape than g but prob more than a startup

[shadow pecan]

MENENDEZ FAN

[sonic coral]

Usually it’s like a proposal for your project and how it’ll be implemented / any considerations to take into account

I’m referring to G

[cinder lake]

anyone got into Adobe apprenticeship? Do you know the hiring rate for full-time?

[still sky]

new here

is this useful for non software dev

im looking for IT/ Cybersecurity/ Database/ Networking type of stuff

[fossil jewel]

fr same here

meetings + coding + talking to people from other teams if you need help and waiting on them

the red tape is annoying

is it true that google has a mono repo @sonic coral ?

[grizzled bronze]

Most people here are SWE, but everyone is welcome here. You'd probably get more relevant discussion for these paths from a diff discord though.

[sonic coral]

Yes but we have a bajillion tools to work with it that make committing code dumb easy

Like our dev ex is so seamless it’s crazy

[fossil jewel]

except @pulsar mural he’s not welcome here

[still sky]

yeah makes sense. thanks

[fossil jewel]

that’s the biggest issue where i’m at, so many wrappers and not enough documentation for those

[grizzled bronze]

https://discord.gg/2W7BQr7

[still sky]

bettt

[fossil jewel]

almost everything is a black box and you need to request mad access

red tape annoying fr

[sonic coral]

My org is Java mainly

[fossil jewel]

i get it tho

lots of private data and the proper security needs to be used

the issue with api wrappers is that if the team changes their code without informing you, your shit breaks for no reason

[sonic coral]

When I say red tape I don’t even mean like access to resources I mean like approvals for projects / launches and stuff like that

[fossil jewel]

ya same

that was my internship kinda lol

had to wait for the proper access first for those wrappers

since apis require auth

and interns get least privilege ofc

tho i’m glad interns don’t deploy to prod

o

yeah can’t see code

bruh

[timber rock]

getting paid to not do your job sounds like bliss

[rustic vessel]

Bazel is good for speed.

[west egret]

I’m 95% sure they left my feature toggled off after I left

[rustic vessel]

It is a decent amount, never had a problem with it after setting up

Not sure how many companies actually use bazel, so it’s prob not worth to learn

Late stage startup

[fossil jewel]

they gave us a brand new project i’m pretty sure that repo is dead

[rain patio]

make people like you

[fossil jewel]

don’t be an ass and do your best

communicate well

[west egret]

Light mode for discord is cursed

[glossy shard]

Any international students getting jobs?

[timber rock]

[glossy shard]

already graduated
OPT starts soon really worried

[pine topaz]

You forgot to mention that above is #full_timers below is #2023_grads

[timber rock]

my king 👑

[pine topaz]

why does he have no eyebbrows

[timber rock]

improved aerodynamics

[rain patio]

hey i'm on here LOL

i decided not to go with revature btw

I talked with some people who recently went through the training program, and none of them were able to get jobs, so Revature just laid them off

not even Revature can get people jobs lol

[timber rock]

🫡

Cursed company

One day you may graduate to #full_timers the land of car talk, papaya salad and complaining about taxes.