It’s been 3.5 months since my last interview ffs, expanded on so many skills and yet nothing.
#2023_grads
neon perch
little portal
Anyone received codility OA from Guidewire Software recently?
bold pier
Finally went so far back in Linkedin job search the website crashed 
obsidian crater
Anyone received codility OA from Guidewire Software recently?
What position?
stray lark
hey guys
can someone
link me the square application
that it shows on the 2023-grad-postings channel
i am trying to find it but i cant
obsidian crater
closed maybe
whole berry
ye
obsidian crater
I got ghosted by them anyways
whole berry
actually its been up for a few days now
stray lark
oh shit
thats fucked
closed after a few days
what a world we live in
i go to a school thats very tech-focussed
but is this industry saturated at this point
or do i just live in a bubble
whole berry
but is this industry saturated at this point
this
sturdy aurora
- Got rejected from every new grad role
- Gets scouted by Tesla recruiter for senior SWE role
kms
whole berry
pine topaz
@timber rock post your meme 
dont be shy
dont talk crap if you cant take the smack
do it
vocal jewel
Hi guys, how do you leverage LinkedIn for your job hunting? Like do you check nearby new posts for 1 hours in a daily basis? (or even spending more time?) I just feel I've spending too much time on job searching...
ornate cliff
Hi guys, how do you leverage LinkedIn for your job hunting? Like do you check ne...
I search "software grad" a few times a day then cry myself to sleep when there are inevitably no new postings
neon perch
Honeywell has the whole country applying to it
urban gulch
Honeywell has the whole country applying to it
Probably whole 2 countries (🇨🇦)
swift falcon
All told, the US produces about 65,000 students with computer science degrees each year... (from ars technica 2019)
Somebody please tell me how all of us are getting hired
there's no way there are 65k jobs out there
god that thread is depressing
ornate cliff
Holy fuck that's terrifying 
swift falcon
Software development positions are also expected to increase by quite a bit, so this is unsurprising to me. Not to say that entry level isn't competitive, it certainly is, and not to undermine the issues occurring in big tech right now. But generally long term this is pretty logically what would be expected to happen in a growing industry in my opinion.
(from a comment in that thread, 2 months ago)
cloud zinc
are people making ghost companies that "solve" "problems" just to get some work experience?
swift falcon
are people making ghost companies that "solve" "problems" just to get some work ...
lets do it
cloud zinc
I had that idea a couple of weeks ago on general but it got shot down
that'll be funny in hindsight
cloud zinc
like a professional rendition of stacking two little brothers in a trench coat
grizzled bronze
are people making ghost companies that "solve" "problems" just to get some work ...
Yahkunazon 
swift falcon
I had that idea a couple of weeks ago on general but it got shot down
only soph was interested
cloud zinc
misterman LLC
swift falcon
I'm dead serious about it though
swift falcon
misterman LLC
CSCD Dynamics LLC
cloud zinc
I don't think this would result in fraud charges, but the worst that I believe would happen is an inferior work experience due to lack of pay
pine topaz
<https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/11qmy69/number_of_cs_field_...
Dont worry, the upcoming depression will wipe out all of these grads and SWE will be niche again
swift falcon
Dont worry, the upcoming depression will wipe out all of these grads and SWE wil...
yeah but that includes us tho
I don't want to be wiped out
pine topaz
yeah but that includes us tho
It is a sacrifice I am willing to make
cloud zinc
some of us unlucky 2022 grads will be fucked over doe
swift falcon
It is a sacrifice I am willing to make
u first
pine topaz
I want @pulsar mural to have her offer rescinded first
cloud zinc
how long does an economic depression usually last, 4 years?
swift falcon
It's being advertised as a way to escape a shrinking economy. Not surprising the boat would be overloaded when all other ships are sinking.
ouch
pine topaz
at this point we should just create a company and overthrow ceos with our new product
swift falcon
we need a product that we can sell passively
that has a low barrier to entry
and low cost to produce and maintain
cloud zinc
yeah I was thinking, if the server was big enough, we could have people pose as customers
to manufacture a problem that a team would solve
pine topaz
we should all create a company and put it on oru resume
cyan plank
cloud zinc
like a gartic phone of software engineering
grizzled bronze
what do zoomers need
smart fidget spinners
swift falcon
#2023_grads message
@cloud zinc this was last week
verbal ore
Subway surfers/family guy funny monents ar glasses
swift falcon
lol
#2023_grads message this was a month ago
#full_timers message (literally in february)
cloud zinc
Objectively, this plan is stupid. But it does solve the problem of finding "work" experience in a world where there isn't any
swift falcon
it could, objectively, just be freelancing tbh
pine topaz
u guys want to overthrow the government
cloud zinc
nah man. It has to be a """"""consulting"""""" firm akin to deolitte
except we are our own customers
cloud zinc
do we really want to name the company off of a parody from a real company?
wouldn't that give off some red flags?
swift falcon
how about Yahkuson
cloud zinc
like that
grizzled bronze
wouldn't that give off some red flags?
No, it sounds similar to FAANG so I would be impressed
swift falcon
what does every company need? a website
boom that's where we get web dev experience from
grizzled bronze
what does every company need? a website
Just use Wix
cloud zinc
No, it sounds similar to FAANG so I would be impressed
it doesn't just sound like FAANG, it is capitalizing on FAANG marketing like a mockbuster movie
we gotta be more subtle
swift falcon
Just use Wix
i feel like this defeats the purpose
cloud zinc
bro idk why the manufactured customer idea is getting shitted on
we can make up a "customer" like John Doe
or some other better fake name
grizzled bronze
we can make up a "customer" like John Doe
Just have ChatGPT generate the dummy data
swift falcon
bro idk why the manufactured customer idea is getting shitted on
I had the idea to create 2 LLC companies and have one be like Acme Dog Walking and the other be the actual Dev Company
but the accounting server I joined said that was real stupid, like no point in going through all that effort when I could just work on portfolio
cloud zinc
are they REALLY going to verify the name and organization who "needs" a software solution
shit nvm
swift falcon
a solution to what though
grizzled bronze
but the accounting server I joined said that was real stupid, like no point in g...
They're not wrong, you could just make it a real product and use it for experience. No need to fake stuff.
swift falcon
the issue is not solving the solution, its finding customers
bold pier
Dogs for Uber
swift falcon
They're not wrong, you could just make it a real product and use it for experien...
yeah, but if I'm the 'owner' of each company it would be kind of weird to explain lol
grizzled bronze
yeah, but if I'm the 'owner' of each company it would be kind of weird to explai...
CEO 
applying for new grad
cloud zinc
I mean you could parrot testimonials for a project. The only thing that senior devs or HR cares about is a working, functional product
swift falcon
I mean if we make a company, we actually gonna do the work though
cloud zinc
exactly
urban gulch
I mean if we make a company, we actually gonna do the work though
U could just
cloud zinc
the work put in will be real. The only thing that would be fake is the impact that the project would yield
urban gulch
Hire someone to do the work for u
swift falcon
Hire someone to do the work for u
that would defeat the purpose
urban gulch
Sorry idek if u guys are being serious, I assume no 😅
swift falcon
no we are serious
cloud zinc
I'm only 25% serious on this idea
swift falcon
I'm 75% serious
cloud zinc
my secondary motivation is to manufacture work experience. But ultimately, this would be REALLY FUNNY if pulled off successfully
pine topaz
swift falcon
I was talking to an experienced dev a year or two ago, and he basically said, if you don't have a project/product that actually has customers and is serving in some sort of production capacity, your portfolio doesn't mean shit
grizzled bronze
I was talking to an experienced dev a year or two ago, and he basically said, if...
Helps a lot for new grad
Any portfolio
tbh
pine topaz
I was talking to an experienced dev a year or two ago, and he basically said, if...
thats why you should start ur company
swift falcon
yeah but if I'm just parroting a tutorial to make MyFirstWebApp with everything moved 5 pixels to the left then it's pointless
I'm thinking of putting out an advertisement for dev services in my towns bitchin' and moanin' facebook group
but I'm afraid I'm gonna get some garbage offers and it will be a waste of time
I'll be like Jimmy McGill writing wills for $140 bucks each
except it's some stupid inventory app and I'll be getting below minimum wage
grizzled bronze
People should forget $200K as new grads, it ain't happening. Get a $50K job and then job hop.
swift falcon
"Can you write a store commerce app that can take credit cards for me?"
yeah but that'd be some low code/configuration shit
which is what I'm doing now
Ideally I would not be doing that
though I suppose if you mean shopify has some sort of service you can just incorporate into an existing website ig that makes sense
like how do you even advertise as a greenhorn freelancer
"I may or may not be able to do this for you, but I'd love to try"
cloud zinc
one unironic application of this fake company idea would be to potentially build credibility for a freelancing gig.
swift falcon
one unironic application of this fake company idea would be to potentially build...
we could all solicit freelance jobs in our areas and then work on it together remotely
cloud zinc
like "I've contributed to a bunch of projects in this company, check out my github for credibility lol"
silk ermine
anyone been on post-grad vacation break and haven't been coding? feel like i forgot how to code lmao
lowkey scared of starting job
pine topaz
anyone been on post-grad vacation break and haven't been coding? feel like i for...
i get vacation blues
its so bad
cloud zinc
one really stupid thing that we could do is make a discord clone/chat room specific to this server. Depending on how deep a company is willing to look into the project, we can use a character.ai API to make mock server users and have them talk to each other for eons.
silk ermine
i get vacation blues
im feelin this
teal jackal
anyone been on post-grad vacation break and haven't been coding? feel like i for...
just came out of a 4 month laziness blues tbh(only one ez class my last semester) and started a full time job, I'll just say it'll all come back to you within a month
Or at least probably
static quarry
when nordstrom sends me a welcome to the team email after rescinding my offer 1 month before grad
pissed on my grave fr
teal jackal
F
cloud zinc
God damn. Speaking of incompetency, I keep getting rejected from the same position at Lockheed Martin for the last three months. My most recent email was yesterday, but the job code was for a position that I applied for in January
Must be a common theme with defense nowadays
static quarry
Kinda weird tho cuz June 4 is a Sunday
yeah idk why it says that, was supposed to be the 5th
honestly i didnt expect anything less from them
waiting until a month before grad to rescind all offers showed me all i needed to know
prime palm
tacit grove
you guys seeing any place that seems to be actively hiring?
iron lily
when nordstrom sends me a welcome to the team email after rescinding my offer 1 ...
do u have any backup offers?
static quarry
do u have any backup offers?
No
reef tendon
unfortunately i dont think it means anything significant, i have the same thing on my apps too
static quarry
"so glad you chose to be a part of the nordstrom family" lmaoooo
LOLOLOL
wanna see my chatgpt reply
pine topaz
did you atleast get the swag
fickle bridge
You really sent that lmao
static quarry
did you atleast get the swag
Unfortunately no 😔
I was really delighted to hear i was getting some
fickle bridge
Why are you assuming the hire email is the wrong one?
static quarry
You really sent that lmao
For the plot of course
static quarry
Why are you assuming the hire email is the wrong one?
fickle bridge
Ooh I see
static quarry
And they called me and my ex managers emailed me afterwards (they definitely sent it by accident)
fickle bridge
Rip
pine topaz
Money needed for stock buybacks
bold pier
These buybacks are breaking my back
rain patio
me when no job
prisma flax
I see so many opportunities going past me, am at a point contemplating doing master's was a wrong choice, if had been in industry the situation would be totally different
swift falcon
time to do some crime
rustic vessel
I was really delighted to hear i was getting some
Swag sucks, at least it did for intern
severe pendant
Guys will market be better later this year?
obsidian crater
there's no way to know
timber rock
hold on lemme consult my crystal ball 
🔮
neon perch
Guys what’s the strategy as June is approaching soon?
fallen fox
neon perch
God I hope something works out soon ffs it’s been too long
swift falcon
Guys what’s the strategy as June is approaching soon?
become AI prompt engineer
bold pier
I just want 2 more yoe and then move to a chill job somewhere in Asia 
prisma flax
I can't find anything all the jobs are security clearance or no sponsorship
wth is happening
static quarry
Guys will market be better later this year?
probably no. recession incoming and big tech most likely wont be hiring
swift falcon
probably no. recession incoming and big tech most likely wont be hiring
they rescinded your offer, you rescind their lives
static quarry
after 2023 probably late 2024 im hoping things get better
timber rock
2025 going into 2026 maybe 2027 and early 2028 gonna be good
static quarry
🙏 just get good at leetcode
swift falcon
is it bad that I want to see what happens if we default
static quarry
honestly same (for science reasons)
swift falcon
Biden would probably do the 14th amendment shiz to stall
but we’d literally never get hired lol
it would be over for the little guy
cloud zinc
Got a final interview with STI Computer Services. Seems they only care about high-level concepts as opposed to knowing C# and Angular
teal jackal
they rescinded your offer, you rescind their lives
pine topaz
1 more week till we default debt ceiling
brave forge
biden already said he would kick ass and prevent it if it comes to the end and nothing is resolved
timber rock
pine topaz
brave forge
timber rock
prisma flax
r u guys applying which asks for social security number while applying?
foggy basin
you should def make a linkedin post! not particularily to call out the company but ppl might reach out with oppurtunities
brave forge
r u guys applying which asks for social security number while applying?
dont give it out while applying
my new intern job is only asking me for it on my first day of work
prisma flax
I give some random number for application
iron lily
is it bad that I want to see what happens if we default
zero chance we default
teal jackal
It's political theater
iron lily
republicans will agree on a deal at the last second
and blame it on Biden even though delaying it was on them
static quarry
you should def make a linkedin post! not particularily to call out the company b...
Already did 🫡
teal jackal
How else are both parties going to tack on ridiculous additional clauses onto their megabill
iron lily
this ain’t a both parties issue
republicans want to get things like veterans benefits scrapped, while dems aren’t agreeing to those changes
they also want to make it harder to get Medicaid
timber rock
republicans doing all they can to ruin ur country, nothing new here!
brave forge
republicans doing all they can to ruin ur country, nothing new here!
can we ban republicans ty
grizzled bronze
sleek owl
Should I email the recruiter if I didn’t hear back in two weeks after final round? Or should I take the L?
bold pier
Email, if you wanna take the L at least confirm it's an L
sleek owl
Email, if you wanna take the L at least confirm it's an L
Yup I will do this 🙏🏾 thank you but I guess I will do it on Monday since today is Friday and it’s already 4:30 pm
cloud zinc
what else do we risk happening with the debt ceiling default, aside from no more defense jobs?
like does the government sell off some states to Canada or something? (please sell Vermont I'm begging you)
potent lava
@cloud zinc Eh I honestly think a default is really unlikely even though it’s cutting it close. But everything is super unpredictable if it happens
Does anyone know of any companies that are hiring new grads/entry level right now that use code signal? I just got a good score and wanted to take advantage of it
timber rock
like does the government sell off some states to Canada or something? (please se...
if any of the 13 colonies wanna rejoin the empire lemme know 🇬🇧🫵💪💪
pine topaz
like does the government sell off some states to Canada or something? (please se...
mass unemploymetn and cuts to government absed programs for sure
will be a first in history, so it would be interesting
im willing to sacrifice my financial health to see it happening
sturdy aurora
I got rejected from Bubble
for SWE I & II
Idk what's the criteria anymore
3x fang, top 500 company internships, CS awards
it's actually depressing. and the saddest part is i see others get into qualcomm and other places with no internships and just GPA
just a vent but it feels impossible to get a job even in a city
hoary fern
it's actually depressing. and the saddest part is i see others get into qualcomm...
how do people do this
is it all neopotism now
prisma flax
can't even get interviews now
brave forge
technically
there's still only been 2 2024 postings so far, both from trading companies. we might see more very soon
timber rock
prob a combo of not intl + good school + relevant projects/internships
especially for qualcomm
i interviewed in the uk office and they seemed super picky about who to interview
rain patio
Lemme see ur resume, I might be able to help out
autumn iris
3x fang, top 500 company internships, CS awards
do u need sponsership
autumn iris
i mean idk, my friend also had
3 internships at meta
and he had nothing for new grads
autumn iris
I'm US Citizen
how early were you applying for new grads
verbal ore
Resume work prestige doesn't matter
in fact they'd prob think you would bounce asap if you had high paying previous employer
bold pier
Resume work prestige doesn't matter
What matters then, it looks like everyone is getting rejected regardless of resume ._.
sturdy aurora
how early were you applying for new grads
This Jan
rain patio
What matters then, it looks like everyone is getting rejected regardless of resu...
nothing matters lol. Just have to wait 😭
autumn iris
verbal ore
What matters then, it looks like everyone is getting rejected regardless of resu...
I prob expect it's role fitting.
sturdy aurora
in fact they'd prob think you would bounce asap if you had high paying previous ...
makes no sense if i stuck with meta for 3 years
verbal ore
Then if meta ever reopens they know dam well you'd apply asap and dip
bold pier
I prob expect it's role fitting.
Nah, I've been rejected from multiple positions with all skills and experience :\
sturdy aurora
Then if meta ever reopens they know dam well you'd apply asap and dip
that also makes no sense
meta has mass layoffs
and in the industry, meta is notorious for poor higher up practices
verbal ore
When faced with fat stacks decisions can be easily changed
sturdy aurora
conflicting visions with eng teams
autumn iris
How many apps have u applied to
bold pier
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sturdy aurora
How many responses though
0
autumn iris
No phones or anything?
sturdy aurora
Nope
rain patio
https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1111181854305959969+-
Link won’t load for me for some reason
gilded swan
Guys how to learn crypto in 3 days, I got a screening call but know jackshit abo...
Say, Web3 and they’ll throw money at you
grizzled bronze
Guys how to learn crypto in 3 days, I got a screening call but know jackshit abo...
bold pier
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storm echo
please review my resume and let me know the changes https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1111776621494534224
would really appreciate all the help
ornate cliff
insert copium meme
brave forge
that was me stalking you sorry
sturdy aurora
Link won’t load for me for some reason
tagged you in channel
bold pier
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ornate cliff
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ornate cliff
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Sure DM me
shut crescent
denied from spacex rip the dream boys
why do senior software engineers interview you for data engineer roles
doesnt make sense to me
tacit grove
linkedin really needs to work on their algo....marks jobs as entry-level with requirements of 3+ yoe
dawn sequoia
sniped
ornate cliff
linkedin really needs to work on their algo....marks jobs as entry-level with re...
yeah that shit pisses me off... I just search "software grad" instead to filter out the BS
shut crescent
bro it doesnt make sense tho, i was naming orchestration and data ingestion tools and he had no idea of them
lmao
shit was scuffed tbh
it is what it is
thankfully i have a decent paying remote job or i wouldve been super pissed lol
this guy didnt even give me a chance to talk about high level concepts lol he just said idk what that is can u explain what it is
to like every question lmfao
i think this dude was super tired too
nah not most people know about prefect and qlik
i doubt he did
but then again my question is why is a senior SWE interviewing for data engineering roles
bro one of his questions was if you were to teach me anything, what would it be
naw he worked with the team lmao
idk seemed very half passed and the dude was yawning lmao
oh well maybe next time eh
i dont blame him tho hes probably getting slaved
lol hell naw
oh maybe yeah
yeah definitely actually lol
rain patio
i don't want to work for tesla anyway 😤
shut crescent
bro each tesla app that opens up has 200 + applications in like 5 mins
swift falcon
🥜
shut crescent
man those spacex cunts are going to be millionaires
remember when falcon landed back on earth how happy those people were lmfao
they just became millionaires at that second
its crazy to think about
bro honestly i would be jumping like that too
split igloo
anyone waiting for their EAD card?
shut crescent
u just legit became a millionaire cuz a rocket landed
tacit grove
yeah that shit pisses me off... I just search "software grad" instead to filter ...
literally fill out half of the application then scroll down and realize the actual min qualifications required like WTF
rain patio
I'm throwing in the towel lol. CS is not for me. Too bad I found that out AFTER getting the freaking degree...
I can't keep up with all the tryhards for even a $40k/year job...no way I'm getting a job that pays more than that. Back to retail work for me
ornate cliff
wtf do you mean
jane street recruiter literally gonna DM you tomorrow
you're CRACKED
raw plank
I can't keep up with all the tryhards for even a $40k/year job...no way I'm gett...
bro you graduated yesterday
we just gotta chill for a bit
rain patio
bro you graduated yesterday
Technically like 2+ weeks ago
rain patio
you're CRACKED
Nah, I'm just a bottom of the barrel average cs grad
Sure why not lol. I need it to be torn apart. I need to find out why I'm not having any luck
ornate cliff
Sure why not lol. I need it to be torn apart. I need to find out why I'm not hav...
i will roast you tag me when you post
gloomy terrace
Not an expert by any means but it sounds a bit wishy washy
Numbers are king because they show direct impact
last temple
Nah, I'm just a bottom of the barrel average cs grad
Damn aha I just saw your resume. I don’t have an internship so I think ur above me for that part 😭😭 I posted mine as well if anyone can roast it
raw plank
Damn aha I just saw your resume. I don’t have an internship so I think ur above ...
same here lol, average gpa no internships
last temple
same here lol, average gpa no internships
Gl on ur search bro, I graduated in March and still searchin no interviews, think I need to start some project but I’m not sure if it’ll just lead to the void like my other projects that I made that contributed to 0 interviews
swift falcon
@rain patio what state u in
rain patio
Utah 😩
swift falcon
wait
last temple
R u searching for jobs in Utah or a tech state? Or trying to compete with remote?
swift falcon
did u go to university in diff state?
last temple
It’s in the west
swift falcon
i always thought it was southwest tbh
last temple
Not considered Midwest I think
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rain patio
Oh i thought it was midwest, but it's west lol
shut crescent
i mean if they were there before the rocket landed they became millionaires
that shit like 1000x'd
that was the first ever rocket that landed
shits actually nuts
rain patio
Apply to Plaid bro
what's that?
ornate cliff
payments company in Utah lmao
rain patio
hmm
shut crescent
@woven folio what was ur offer if u dont mind me asking
rain patio
Quick search shows they only are hiring experienced software developers 😭
God I can't wait to become experienced
Life sounds so good for mid and senior level devs
ornate cliff
Quick search shows they only are hiring experienced software developers 😭
good that gives you time to fix your resume
rain patio
good that gives you time to fix your resume <:KEKW:1028099241006088222>
yeah lol
shut crescent
Life sounds so good for mid and senior level devs
lol u say that but they are in meetings 24/7
rain patio
meetings sound more fun than stressing over code
rain patio
I wanna be paid 400k to sit in meetings all day
shut crescent
when im in meetings i have to sit my ass on the chair and be infront of a screen
for 8 hours a day
rain patio
lol
shut crescent
trust when u actually have meetings like for 4-5 hours a day ur not going to be happy
what was the RSU part tho
damn
not bad at all bruh
that stock is prob going to be worth more too
i legit got no stock from my company
ornate cliff
where you headed @woven folio
shut crescent
just 140k base + bonus
shut crescent
where you headed <@301936010097590273>
he got into spacex
i just failed spacex lmfao
shut crescent
yeah pretty nuts spacex is golden
what team are u going to be apart of? cali or washington
ornate cliff
what's your background like?
ornate cliff
you too @shut crescent what's your background?
shut crescent
i doubled in CS + biz econ, just started full time 2 months ago
ornate cliff
target school?
shut crescent
data engineering job
ornate cliff
nice 👌🏼
shut crescent
i went to ucla
ornate cliff
sweet
shut crescent
app dev should be fun bro
ornate cliff
i went to ucla
any internships?
shut crescent
yeah i had a couple no names and then i had one at apple
ornate cliff
🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐
ornate cliff
yeah i had a couple no names and then i had one at apple
no return to Apple?
ornate cliff
gah unlucky
shut crescent
my manager/senior said i can hit them up tho so i might try that in a few months
ornate cliff
🤞🏼
shut crescent
where did u end up going
yeah solid also
for masters?
have u heard of abbvie lol
oh literally everyone interns there from ur school
im debating whether i should get a masters in CS
but like i heard its not worth it
yeah its a good school
a lot of big tech target it
i might try for berkeley
man my friend got in for EECS as an ungrad
his path has been so easy
hes in a start up in SF making over 200k starting
its wild how many interviews and responses that guy gets dude
literally broken
cyan plank
shut crescent
then people have the audacity to say where u go doesnt matter lol
what u do there def matters more but where u go also matters
ornate cliff
then people have the audacity to say where u go doesnt matter lol
usually only people from target schools say that shit
shut crescent
yeah that would be the only reaosn i would get a MS
and if my company pays for it
is it easier to get in? lol
also dont u have to take an exam
whats the difference lol
ornate cliff
oh wow what the heck
that's nothing for such a big school
crazy
Ohhh I see I see
shut crescent
are there admission profiles i can look at anywhere
for mscs uiuc
did u end up taking the GRE?
im pretty sure its almost mandatory right lol
yeah but with the competition tho
do u think it helped ur career greatly tho
ornate cliff
what helped more GOOG or masters?
ornate cliff
good point
mystic vine
Does anyone have email of HCL recruiter?
shut crescent
im sure work experience helps getting into these programs too right?
u went to a UC too for undergrad
?
shut crescent
irvine/davis im assuming?
SB then huh
u said top 30 my boy
bro am i stupid or can i search for uiuc/CS somehow lmfao
oh ur an EECS boy too
bro was masters necessary
companies open their legs for u guys
ornate cliff
UC is too OP 😭
shut crescent
im assuming u cant do online for these MSCS programs huh
lmao
yeah i ws just about to mention that haha
irvine has a pretty decent CS program for 1 year
ornate cliff
can you get into masters with professional exp if your gpa is ass?
shut crescent
i meant for masters
yeah what were ur stats when u got into uiuc btw/
if i didnt have a job lined up i wouldve def applied to grad school
u had google too tho right
o
3.98 is pretty nuts at berkeley ngl
shut crescent
oh i thought u said ucb eecs ur prob replying to someone else tho lol
did u already graduate?
masters rn isnt the worst play imo
economy is shit ur prob gonna waste 1 year looking for a job
my company isnt paying shit for masters so ima wait until i get into big tech
apple wouldve been perfect rn
ornate cliff
come on over brother 🤠 🇨🇦
shut crescent
if i do masters rn i could potentially lose 140k + like another 100k in tuition
ornate cliff
safe how?
shut crescent
u can do night classes tho right
prob still hard tho
yeah exactly haha i need to wait
and i should wait
i think if i rack up a few years of experience i can prob get into a top 10 masters program
i have a good gpa, research, publications, and work experience
prob need a good gre tho
ornate cliff
Yeah PR is ez, TN is for citizens only I think
shut crescent
but who knows if i get a 200k job by then fuck a masters
ornate cliff
You'll get faang in canada easily
pay is like 20% less
Yeah waterloo literally funnels every faang
Goog has office in waterloo
Basically change "USD" to "CAD"
and that's your TC
20-25% drop
there's also option of remote US job + Canada COL
as long as it's not Toronto or Vancouver
where do you live rn?
ornate cliff
lol detroit? waterloo is similar vibes
shut crescent
tf
welp lmfao
isnt a&m solid too
i wouldnt mind living in austin
i never thought of masters haha thats why
what if i keep applying to top 5 every year and if i get in one year i just go
keep accumulating my YOE
whats the diff again between mscs and meng?
like do employers care
p
oh
fuck yeah man i wish i got that return offer from apple
sucks
yeah fuck us man
worst time
i might apply to meng berkeley
next year prob now
my bros going to cornell med school wouldve been perfect
couldve bought an apartment
ig i can still do it and live over there with him
that shit is so expensive dude
i would want a company to pay for my shit if i were to do a masters tbh
just too much cost
unless i get into stanford which is like right by me
sturdy aurora
I can't even apply to grad
No GPA
lol
just projects and internships
LoRs?
Meaning?
o lmao
that's a rip
ornate cliff
does it have to be from a well known prof?
ornate cliff
there's no new grad tho?
ornate cliff
yeah the competition is everyone who's laid off from faang for those ones
sturdy aurora
i got a phone call for a senior SWE position
and they found out im a new grad after i told them
🤣
where do you find startups
im struggling to find startups that will pay me cash
rather than equity
pulsar mural
dn startup
sturdy aurora
ahhh ic
shut crescent
yeah bro im from the bay
pulsar mural
what does dn stand for
shut crescent
san jose
pulsar mural
dnyc
shut crescent
cupertino is nice
yeah i mean if u guys bought a house ur set lmao
i think we bought our house for like 680k and neighbor house just sold for 2.2m
bought it in 2010ish
yeah it is
prisma flax
Bay has better job opportunities right
shut crescent
like 2 streets down they are going for 2.4m
naww 4-5m is crazy
hes probably rich asf
mission houses are crazy pretty sure
our lot is probably a good 4000 sqft
prisma flax
I bet in bay everyone is swe
shut crescent
yeah my family got lucky we bought a few apartments before the actual rush happened
made a good amount of money from it
pulsar mural
dn
teal jackal
my parents bought in 2005
rain patio
dn my ass
teal jackal
i think talk of market crash is copium
shut crescent
u living with ur parents and working at spacex @woven folio ?
teal jackal
dude bay area should just be abandoned
pulsar mural
@teal jackal
teal jackal
I hope I can find a good Higher-MCOL location and buy a sububan home for $750k or so
$150k down, parents helping me too
prisma flax
Damn bay pay and living with parents
shut crescent
Damn bay pay and living with parents
yeah thats what im doing lol
shut crescent
im saving a lot of money not paying for shit
probably saving around 100k-110k cash i think
teal jackal
dude living at home is stacked
shut crescent
if i count like savings in 401k
prisma flax
Damn u guys are loading with money
prisma flax
If this goes on u could actually afford a house
teal jackal
tbh I'm worried about owning a home too nowadays
I still want my dream car but I need a home because a home is a long term asset, and life isn't just my 20s
prisma flax
I don’t think spaceX gonna be public soon
shut crescent
i might buy a townhouse and then later upgrade to a house tbh
then rent the townhouse out
prisma flax
But I don’t know shit tho
teal jackal
I hope my company gets bought out within the next 3 years
If my company gets bought out and I have 2 years of tenure, I get a 6fig payout
that's stacked
prisma flax
Ya doesn’t make sense for him to go public
shut crescent
yeah thats why i didnt care so much about losing apple cuz i got this fully remote job and i can save on rent living with my parents
basically same shit
prisma flax
i might buy a townhouse and then later upgrade to a house tbh
Ya than rent that out
shut crescent
yeah about the same but i dont pay rent
prisma flax
Ohh I thought they are focusing more on reusable stuff
prisma flax
im probably going to save 105k cash this year
Damn that’s actually cool
shut crescent
i think my parents might go 50/50 on a townhouse for me too
teal jackal
what about 401k? honestly i get the argument against worrying too much about 401k(just contribute enough to get employer match) since using the savings towards a home first is probably better
shut crescent
downside is im living with my parents tho
i dont have a glorious studio like u fuckers
prisma flax
Fuck how the hell did you guys find a job in this economy
teal jackal
i dont have a glorious studio like u fuckers
its not that nice
prisma flax
Lmao u that Indian kid bro
shut crescent
fuck my girlfriend tho im trying to save this 105k cash and max my 401k
i can always find a new one
naw bro as u age the more easier it is to get them
theyre on a biological clock not me
prisma flax
Chill when u have money nothing to fear
shut crescent
and yeah ill have cash u can get practically any hoe u want
even if im bald by 30
those come easier as u age too
theyre on a biological clock
ornate cliff
whos gonna raise your babies
shut crescent
but remember u have nuts
pulsar mural
@ornate cliff
shut crescent
they have eggs
prisma flax
So basically it’s easier to find girls as they age?
ornate cliff
<@200372491594629121>
whos gonna raise your babies
prisma flax
Lmao but it doesn’t work that way
severe pendant
😭 reading ur chats makes me feel like im a failure
shut crescent
especially during finals week when theyre all stressed and shit
teal jackal
😭 reading ur chats makes me feel like im a failure
nah it aint that bad
prisma flax
Same dude i feel some lame ass
shut crescent
😭 reading ur chats makes me feel like im a failure
its all luck
some are at microsoft earning 200k by answering 2 sum right
severe pendant
thank you for the kind words! I will work harder! hopefully someday i can be like you guys :)!
teal jackal
some are at microsoft earning 200k by answering 2 sum right
the good ol days while they lasted
gloomy terrace
last year was horrible
gloomy terrace
I didn't get Google return, Warriors won the finals, and I didn't get a paper published
shut crescent
yeah we shot like shit too but still
prisma flax
Nah am gonna be in states for next 3 years
gloomy terrace
warriors parade was the highlight
prisma flax
I just feel like we can never be rich without doing some business
shut crescent
i might get my real estate license
gloomy terrace
some things take priority
shut crescent
what do u guys think
prisma flax
Thats dope tho
shut crescent
u sell a house for 2m and get $40k out of it
prisma flax
If you sell a house can pretty much cover years rent
shut crescent
yeah i might do it tbh
in the future u can flip houses with friends too which we're planning to do
u save so much on fees
shut crescent
we bought a townhome in the inland empire for $445k and we're renting it out for $2800
prisma flax
If you don’t dwell into and start something or do some flipping its ng happen
ornate cliff
we bought a townhome in the inland empire for $445k and we're renting it out for...
being a landlord is such a pain in the ass.... that's the only thing stopping me
shut crescent
i need to get my real estate license asap
idk man i manage my parents apartments
its not too bad for me rn
ornate cliff
a person or a company?
shut crescent
u just gotta lay down the pipe
prisma flax
Pm gonna take 10% of income
shut crescent
yeah but middleman take too much moneh
money
and they have so many rules
u should only get a middleman if u own a shitton of apartments
its not hard to manage man
u have to get them to sign a 12 month lease
dont do month to month
tell them to either sign it or gtfo the property
prisma flax
If you have more than 5 than it makes sense
shut crescent
never do month to month cuz when it goes to like the months of october or sept gl finding a tenant
rental market is super hot in the summer
ornate cliff
how do you make sure your tenant won't wreck your place lol
shut crescent
naw too much stress when its month to month
prisma flax
Instead of m2m better try airbnb
shut crescent
u do inspections @ornate cliff
typically people charge more for month to month btw
i do too
prisma flax
Sublease the shit if you wanna move
shut crescent
we have one in fremont and we do 2400 is its 12 month
ornate cliff
u do inspections <@200372491594629121>
how often?
teal jackal
12 month terms tacks on the responsibility of "yeah bro your responsibility to make sure i get my monthly rentbux"
shut crescent
so like twice a year
also its better when u have an apartment that u list it for cheaper cuz if it stays vacant for one month u lose $2350
ornate cliff
you just go in and like do a walkthrough?
what if you see something busted? how you gonna make them pay LMAO
shut crescent
no i give them a 24-48 hour notice and tell them im coming in to check
prisma flax
what if you see something busted? how you gonna make them pay LMAO
Deposit
shut crescent
they cant do shit
teal jackal
mfal do u own rentals or do you help your parents with it
shut crescent
i also make sure i charge the previous tenant for wall painting and carpet cleaning
its a rotation
this fucker whos in there rn is going to do the same
i take it directly from his deposit
prisma flax
I heard property laws are insane
shut crescent
these tenants are rats
u have to be extremely disrespectful towards them
then they stfu
prisma flax
Bro am a tenant lmao
teal jackal
Real LandChad hours right now
shut crescent
i had some bitch complaining about some tiny ass mold i told her she can gtfo and i can pay for her hotel stays
she didnt move and stfu afterwards
prisma flax
Insane
teal jackal
Land ownership will define future financial stability
for reall
I can't waste my money in my 20s
shut crescent
bro these townhouses condos are the best investments
they appreciate so much and free money
pine topaz
mfal how many condos u own
teal jackal
^
pine topaz
or property
shut crescent
my family owns them
prisma flax
If ur not investing than its
pine topaz
u manage them?
ornate cliff
JHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ
pine topaz
do u get ur share
prisma flax
Damn
shut crescent
my brother is in med school near the other 4 so he does the other 4
pine topaz
bruhh
teal jackal
that's interesting
pine topaz
wtf does ur parents do den
shut crescent
he lives in 1 so he doesnt pay rent
pine topaz
💀
ornate cliff
wtf does ur parents do den
live off passive income
prisma flax
U dont need a swe job
shut crescent
my dad owns a trucking company my moms a supervisor at a company
pine topaz
american dream
ornate cliff
that's sick lol
shut crescent
yeah my dad came to america with $0 at age 25
they built everything from scratch pretty nuts
ornate cliff
from?
prisma flax
Flooding in money
teal jackal
im born 50 years late
so true tbh
prisma flax
Exactly
teal jackal
shits expensive af nowadays
prisma flax
Me tooo
ornate cliff
im born 50 years late
you can trailer park property with lockheed TC
pine topaz
owning a home nowadays is a luxury
ornate cliff
buy*
shut crescent
but what made them this wealth is all these properties appreciating
all of these properties have appreciated 100-200k each
prisma flax
Break the process
pine topaz
the us is gonan default and we gon be poorer nex week
shut crescent
and have given free rent cash flow for the past like 5-6 years
pine topaz
teal jackal
owning a home nowadays is a luxury
you can own a home, but you gotta prioritize home ownership for it to happen
prisma flax
We gonna create our way to reach there
pine topaz
you can own a home, but you gotta prioritize home ownership for it to happen
real
@pulsar mural stop living iin ur parents basemnt
ornate cliff
Embiid still saying that... L
prisma flax
Nah 500k min
teal jackal
is there good economic growth potential in inland cali?
shut crescent
yes
prisma flax
I would have 5 years exp in 2 years
shut crescent
we bought 2 townhomes there for 445k and they are at 600k giving us 2800 a month
inland empire is crazy
prisma flax
Now can’t find a 100k job 😂
shut crescent
if u ever go to rancho all u see are lambos and nice ass super cars
ornate cliff
if u guys ever want to invest look at cali's inland empire
you gotta drive out there to do these inspections? 💀
shut crescent
yeah fremont is like 10-20 mins away from me
not too bad
i have a lot of free time since im remote and my manager doesnt give a shit
teal jackal
tbh my dream property setup is modest medium-HCOL suburban home + lake house near a rural town
shut crescent
but i will say, dealing with association is a pain in the fucking ass
teal jackal
what unicorn tho
prisma flax
Company stable?
shut crescent
rippling is a good one imo
pine topaz
I wanna be in Amsterdam 😭
same its so nice there
shut crescent
rippling's team is insane
ornate cliff
I love Rippling
teal jackal
rippling is pretty cracked
ornate cliff
the CEO is chill af
prisma flax
Rippling doesn’t want me
shut crescent
bro my friend is making 300k as a senior in nyc at rippling
prisma flax
Damn databricks as well
shut crescent
he said new grads are getting 200k starting there
ornate cliff
unfortunately I don't go to target school so they will never acknowledge me
shut crescent
it is nyc tho
teal jackal
200k nyc doesnt go extremely far
ornate cliff
doubt it
shut crescent
he has a shitton rippling stock
sturdy aurora
200k nyc doesnt go extremely far
idk where you get this from
but 200k does go pretty far in nyc
pulsar mural
@pine topaz
shut crescent
he has so much that he told my brother he'll buy him a gt3rs if it IPOs because he helped him negotiate for a shitton of stock
teal jackal
idk where you get this from
true
sturdy aurora
300K nyc is 100K buying power approx but that's if you're only shopping in Manhattan
prisma flax
Rippling was hiring, got rejected for some role
ornate cliff
nah... Spacex for sure lol
pine topaz
<@372182839959224320>
shoo
shut crescent
yeah but its not about the cash guys
if rippling ipos ur a millionaire
if u got in a few years back
some of those fuckers have so much stock
teal jackal
tbh work for a company with a good business model that is on track to grow in client base and reach
take advantage of the stocks
shut crescent
yeah spacex stock is solid dude
chilly burrow
tbh work for a company with a good business model that is on track to grow in cl...
First step is getting hired...
shut crescent
dont look at the cash only lmfao
chilly burrow
if rippling ipos ur a millionaire
If is the big question
shut crescent
ur going to make a shitton of money off those stock units
shut crescent
If is the big question
i totally believe they will
chilly burrow
If they get acquired
teal jackal
if navan wlb is shit too spacex ez
if naval wlb is at least ok id consider it over spacex
urban gulch
If and when
chilly burrow
You could end up with nothing
shut crescent
yeah but rippling isnt going anywhere anytime soon lmfao
ornate cliff
no one is IPOing any time soon
prisma flax
If they get buyout we wont get paid?
shut crescent
ripplings team and funding is crazy
chilly burrow
If they get buyout we wont get paid?
Depending on the priority of shares
ornate cliff
i feel like everyone is waiting on Stripe to IPO
teal jackal
stripe is doing everything but IPOing
chilly burrow
Cuz investors hav a min profit
teal jackal
tbh i get it
chilly burrow
So they get the cashour first
urban gulch
i feel like everyone is waiting on Stripe to IPO
Feels like stripe missed a chance to ipo? Idk
chilly burrow
So whatever is left is split between employees
shut crescent
stripe is solid too yeah lol
ornate cliff
Feels like stripe missed a chance to ipo? Idk
honestly it would have been suicide to IPO last year
chilly burrow
It already is
prisma flax
Depending on the priority of shares
Than it doesn’t make sense for employees to get stock
ornate cliff
stock would insta tank
shut crescent
stripe's team is pretty nuts too
chilly burrow
stripe is solid too yeah lol
Imo no
teal jackal
I heard stripe is currently doing some program that lets employees liquidate their equity via the private market
chilly burrow
Stripe has halved its valuation...
teal jackal
you can still convert it into cash somehow
chilly burrow
I heard stripe is currently doing some program that lets employees liquidate the...
Yes
urban gulch
honestly it would have been suicide to IPO last year
I’m thinking before it had to cut its valuation
ornate cliff
I heard stripe is currently doing some program that lets employees liquidate the...
cuz they keep blue balling their employees with this IPO that's never gonna happen
chilly burrow
Than it doesn’t make sense for employees to get stock
This isn't the case in all exit events
shut crescent
man my wrx has been sitting outside collecting webs i dont even use that shit anymore
gotta sell it tbh
chilly burrow
Just a possibility
shut crescent
i might buy a model y
teal jackal
cuz they keep blue balling their employees with this IPO that's never gonna happ...
Tbh timing an IPO and "what happens after an IPO" is pretty tricky
shut crescent
pretty cheap tbh
teal jackal
not good if company goes nowhere after IPO, or flops immediately after IPO
pine topaz
shut crescent
if i sell my wrx for like 20k it'll be like 30-40k i only have to pay
shut crescent
but the thing is im fully remote so i wouldnt even use the model y
chilly burrow
I don’t believe a company till they iPo
Ok
pine topaz
landchad takes
shut crescent
my wrx is solid i love japanese cars dude legit 0 problems
teal jackal
I don’t believe a company till they iPo
I think pre-IPO options don't count as TC, more like hypothetical best-case scenario gains that you can hope for but shouldn't expect
prisma flax
This isn't the case in all exit events
If its the case than everything would have fallen
chilly burrow
Yes
shut crescent
i have this 2018 wrx limited with 35k miles on it, i bought it in 2017. i dont drive much
just a bunch of city driving
prisma flax
I think pre-IPO options don't count as TC, more like hypothetical best-case scen...
Ya make sense
chilly burrow
I think pre-IPO options don't count as TC, more like hypothetical best-case scen...
Imo it's dumb dat levels counta it as TC
teal jackal
dude the i4 is nice, good taste
chilly burrow
Overinflates TC of companies
shut crescent
yeha i agree
if u dont have a home charger i wouldnt fuck with teslas tbh
its so annoying
teal jackal
Imo it's dumb dat levels counta it as TC
it's dumb but it's a way for people to inflate their TC egos
shut crescent
we have a model 3 and if it werent for a home charger, that shit wouldve been sold for sure
naww
dont do that shit
get a home charger
chilly burrow
or Brex <:KEKW:1028099241006088222>
Well tbf, Brex allows for like 90% cash or smth
shut crescent
time isnt free tho
teal jackal
tbf if u go to target in your area why would you need to charge it
shut crescent
fuck that
ornate cliff
get a home charger
what if you live in an apt