2023_grads

[jovial latch]

uh no who told you that LMAO

but speaking of him
tell me what hte fuck was his point or relevancy post season 4.

not much of anything, because they just straight up ignored his characterization and actions past the third book

that guy was full of shit

[normal palm]

what if ur not that good looking tho

[jovial latch]

tyrion actually becomes fucking horrible after escaping kings landing

i mean i dont know if i can even say what he does in here

but his character becomes really dark

but that was never the point, to deviate

thats just not how it worked though lol

oh you have no idea what you're missing out on, entire pov's and plotlines were removed from the last 2 books

stoneheart

and not just like 1 or 2 minor things

we're talking like, major things that are gonna have a huge impact

christ the sheer amount of stuff they removed is upsetting

[swift falcon]

sopranos

[hoary fern]

wear a mask so they dont see ur face

[jovial latch]

• stoneheart
• skagos
• northern consipracy
• the entire significance of dorne (dorne master plan)
• lol whos victarion greyjoy
• half of the fucking martells
• eurons butchered character
• faegon

off the top of my head, important fucking things that dont exist in the tv show

[hoary fern]

and sunglasses so u look cool

😎

[normal palm]

kk ty

[jovial latch]

just dress as batman

batman needs a job

ha

nah actually, dress as spiderman

that one would actually make sense

[ivory stratus]

do you need to do the block codesignal before submitting app?

[jovial latch]

im gonna assume they aint looking at the app unless oyu take a code signal

[ivory stratus]

fuck me

been a while since ive done cs

[jovial latch]

good way for them to filter out candidates, codes signal on the initial app

[ivory stratus]

yeah true

[jovial latch]

app also says they wont look at your thing unless youdo it

[ivory stratus]

guess time to grind a bit of lc before

[jovial latch]

honestly its luck

[ivory stratus]

yeah i know

so rng

[jovial latch]

i took a test, was 736, i took another test like 3 weeks later, 841

that was back in november

[ivory stratus]

yeah last one i took i think was october or november

[hoary fern]

nah dress like ironman

nobody can judge ur face

and ur superhero version of elon musk

[jovial latch]

ew elon musk

[ivory stratus]

really hope this recruiting cycle is better than 2023

lookin pretty grim though

[stray imp]

Are the job postings on sites Karkidi, Lever, workopolis legit?

[tawdry nacelle]

anybody got any tips/suggestions/advice for building a portfolio site

I should probably build one but don't know how indepth/complex to make it

[swift falcon]

damn misser beese is here

hire me bro

[crystal steppe]

Since 2023 new grad positions are getting delayed for 2024...the 2024 postings will be delayed for 2025? (genuine question)

[pure mauve]

Ggs

[obsidian crater]

oof

[fickle bridge]

2023 postings don't get delayed

Lots of people got jobs

[crystal steppe]

I mean for faang

[teal jackal]

Internships matter more than ever

[winged jay]

so we'refucked then

[bold pier]

What's the process to open Onlyfans again?

and where can I sell feet pics??

[ornate cliff]

who's down

[serene nymph]

yup

[bold pier]

I had a manager who worked on jail management software, he said it was one of the most interesting job he had in his 30 years of experience

[pure mauve]

Wait are all the Amazon delays for people who didn’t get initially delayed?

[serene nymph]

i think its team dependen

some are already starting as new grads, but a lot keep getting delayed

[stable bear]

So they had only delayed q1 and q2 start date people before now it’s hitting the q3 people…

[dusky tapir]

I’m really low iq can never solve the last code signal

[swift falcon]

let’s check on the debt ceiling crisis brb…

[obsidian crater]

haha

[swift falcon]

oh june 1st we still got time

there’s hope for us seeking jobs

maybe the economy won’t tank

[timber rock]

The debt ceiling is such a hilarious thing

Yeah let’s set a limit but just keep raising it every time we reach it

[obsidian crater]

The debt ceiling is only a problem when Democrats are in power

[swift falcon]

so true

[obsidian crater]

When Republicans are in power they always raise it

But when a Democrat is in power.. Republicans whine and act like 2 yr olds

[swift falcon]

coz they bitches like

BITCH MCCONNELL

[obsidian crater]

Bitch Mcconnell got a strong chin

[swift falcon]

the strongest

[obsidian crater]

[swift falcon]

honestly, I don’t think anyone would fault him for getting a chin lift

neck lift w/e

but it’s probably a part of his brand now

[prisma flax]

Is the no of postings decreased or am just hallucinating it?

[swift falcon]

recession is happening

[oblique wasp]

I've got the same question. It'd be great if someone could help

[autumn iris]

i didnt realize

if u type in new grad in the search result in linkedin

[prisma flax]

Yesterday i had a call with some random company they are like we like your qualifications but unfortunately they are in hiring freeze ( they posted a role in linkedin )

[autumn iris]

nothing shows up lmao

[prisma flax]

Exactly there’s almost nothing

[autumn iris]

avg

[prisma flax]

Wth that’s not a data science job

Also was q1 so bad that it leading to this situation?

[autumn iris]

wait

i didnt realize u can filter linkedin

jobs with quotations

thats pretty fked

only 12.5k jobs, and theres like 60k+ new grads/yr

and people from prev years

[obsidian crater]

🪢

[late kestrel]

well tbf there # still looking for a job is probably pretty low

most ppl r graduated now

[autumn iris]

oh

[obsidian crater]

Q1 was good?

[autumn iris]

[obsidian crater]

almost 200K people got laid off in Q1

[autumn iris]

it's way more in fall?

[swift falcon]

this shi pissn me off bruh

[obsidian crater]

Most companies have been doing great

They made record profits but then they layoff people

[swift falcon]

im so fkkin dumb i should have gotten job after ubdergrad

[obsidian crater]

Outside of Meta or some shit

[swift falcon]

id be sr swe

rn

[agile niche]

i fumbled block oa lol

732

[autumn iris]

are oa's always given?

[obsidian crater]

no

[autumn iris]

i'm not SWE, but i heard people getting lots of oa's

[agile niche]

theyre automated most of the time

[obsidian crater]

Sometimes OA are automatic

[autumn iris]

oh

[obsidian crater]

Othertimes they are not

I've applied to many places but not gotten a lot of OAs this year

Fuck this economy bro

[agile niche]

its actually so sad

[autumn iris]

[agile niche]

i graduated 2 weeks ago still no job

[bold pier]

I thought I took a rational decision getting job experience before coming for Masters,
I absolutely regret doing that. Had I graduated an year early I would have a job rn!

[autumn iris]

how long have u been applying though

[agile niche]

since jan

[autumn iris]

any interviews?

[agile niche]

probably 300 apps rn

yeah luckily a good ratio

but the problem is i suck at interviews

i hate lc

[brave forge]

Do u bench press leeetcode ?

[agile niche]

i have an interview with a company that does non-lc style interview

how can i prepare for that

do u guys have any resources

[brave forge]

You cannot hate lc that is illegal. The corporate overlords say you must pass their mind games with lc and be a good slave SWE

[agile niche]

anything for da bag 💯

[bold pier]

If it's not lc it will be things like API integration and system design, it should be straight forward

[autumn iris]

just got a rejection from final interview i did

[agile niche]

i got 4 today lol

oh shoot sorry

it hurts

[agile niche]

are there any mock interviews i can watch or a guide on how to practice

[obsidian crater]

I lost all hope tbh

I'm finna be unemployed and rope, I can predict

[brave forge]

Bruh that is not the way

[agile niche]

did u apply for YC jobs?

[obsidian crater]

yeah

they all ghost

[bold pier]

Where is the way though

[obsidian crater]

I even emailed the CEO and HR of a YC company

Still ghosted

[agile niche]

idk i filled out my YC profile and sent personalized msgs and it went well for me

[brave forge]

leetcode

[obsidian crater]

hmm

[agile niche]

honestly best response ratio comes from yc platform

[eager schooner]

I'm new here, what is YC?

[agile niche]

Y combinator startups

[brave forge]

i am so for new grad 2024. Non-stop grinding LC to get ready, I'm going to have to pass these interviews

[obsidian crater]

Most YC jobs I've seen want exp though

I'll try grinding YC apps

[eager schooner]

Ah I see, thank you

[agile niche]

personally i applied anyways and asked them to at least bet on me once and give me an interview, most of the time they like that energy and went ahead and scheduled one

i applied to founding engineer roles and asked to still consider me and they did lol

[obsidian crater]

interesting

[eager schooner]

What were the interviews like, if you don't mind me asking

[agile niche]

Almost none were LC-style

they were hardcore af ngl

I had a computer vision take home assignment once

[obsidian crater]

jesus

That's nuts

bro

[agile niche]

and I had an interview that was like hardcore global supply chain bs

Basically the less people working at the YC startup the harder the interview

Literally

Plus you're competing for sweet, sweet equity of being a first hire for startups looking to IPO or exit in 5-10 years

it's insane

Also they really focus on the dynamic between you and the founders. Basically there is no culture just vibes between you and like 2 people lmao

[raw plank]

Do you guys use simplify to apply to stuff? How do I see when a job on that site was posted?

[cloud zinc]

what does it mean when a job description mentions the following qualification: "All candidates MUST provide working product examples"?

does that mean I have to provide one present a project during the interview or do they check if I have one before interviewing?

[raw plank]

I think that just means projects

[foggy basin]

are full stack mobile engineers expted to know ios, android and web?

i saw this spotify listing and it said "Build and maintain features on Android, iOS, Web, and Backend"

dont engineers specialize in one of each lol

[chilly burrow]

Generally no

[frank wedge]

No. Full stack mobile would mean:

• Native Android + Api
• Native IOS + Api
• Cross platform framework + Api
• mweb + Api

[violet echo]

Been applying since Jan but havnt gotten an interview 🤕 any advice? Resume review may be?

[fallen fox]

whalecum to the club

[violet echo]

Pain

[prisma flax]

woah they need someone with all the fucking skills it's impossible to get someone like that

[raw plank]

Get a software dev job to put on your résumé then software dev jobs will hire you

been thinking about lying cuz I have no internships/ relevant experience and everyone else in here is struggling WITH internships and experience

ik that’s not gonna work but I don’t wanna go back to deliver pizza

[normal palm]

Yeah rn even if u have internship experience u still wont land a job unless ur very lucky

[autumn iris]

went through glassdoor interview questions for faang and feel overwhelmed

theres so much more sht to cover

[normal palm]

U have an interview?

[autumn iris]

no, just prepping for new grad

graduating december

[normal palm]

Oh ok

[jovial rain]

neetcode 150 should have you covered tbh

[autumn iris]

doing that but also ML theory

[jovial rain]

oh damn if its general swe idt its necessary but for AI/ML specific roles probably needed

[cloud zinc]

Octo put their position on hold for two weeks

guess that's why they didn't bother with the interview

[autumn iris]

isnt

unpaid internships

illegal or something

i actually see postings for these, but its kinda sketchy

[brave forge]

it's data science so it's legal

[autumn iris]

[swift falcon]

i stg im only 1/4 joking at this point when I say we should start a cscd company

[obsidian crater]

And do what?

[raw plank]

Make resume filler

Some people I know just wrote some code for a family member over a summer and listed it as an internship

[teal jackal]

They verify internships so sadly you can't lie

[raw plank]

Someone here ask me to write fizzbuzz and I’ll list it on my resume

[raw plank]

Yeah, so when they call u and ask you if u made me fizzbuzz just say yeah

Won’t even be lying

damn guess I’m too stupid to even do fake internships 🤣

I could prob figure that out tho just let me dust off my assembly notes from 2 yrs ago

[swift falcon]

literally anything

we can make a product and find customers later

we all get paid $1 a year because we share the honorary founder-ceo role

the genius part is we don’t have to make any money

if anyone is srs abt this hmu

[hoary fern]

you could say it was freelance

[hoary fern]

im down lowkey ya

[loud stump]

hey!! is there a capital one new grad discord?

[oblique wasp]

Could you please tell where you are seeing these postings? I am currently looking for some

[autumn iris]

linkedin, wouldnt bother

its way too sketchy

[oblique wasp]

Oh

[swift falcon]

alr i checked in with acctg discord and they laughed at me in high demand job

they was clownin on me

[hoary fern]

what is that discord

[swift falcon]

big picture accounting discord

idk maybe we don’t need an accountant person

they’re mean

so like

we can just make an app or web service or sth

like copy get inspiration from an existing sth maybe

[hoary fern]

i mean depends do u want to actually incorporate something

[swift falcon]

idk

like what can we shill that is legit with the minimal amt of no funds

i guess I was thinking an actg person would be nice for tax/law reasons

but like idk abt incorporating any actual financial software or sum shit

[tardy geode]

[crystal steppe]

I've heard rumors that faang will start hiring mid next year

[sonic coral]

You’re not wrong

[hoary fern]

cost a couple hundred to actually incorporate something

but idk to what extent employers actually do bg checks or whatever

like im thinking what do people who freelance do when writing shit on their resume

freelancing people get their clients from all sorts of places and get paid in all sorts of ways

even in person

[crystal steppe]

Not entry level

[swift falcon]

yeah but like if we have a product and act like a company who’s to say we aren’t a company?

it’s foolproof

[crystal steppe]

Sorry mate, my sarcasm level dropped record low, like my confidence in this economy

[hoary fern]

wait are u saying u would actually want to incorporate something legally

[swift falcon]

yeah the point of this is to be legal

and legitimate

just not profitable

we don’t need profit

just experience

right?

[hoary fern]

ah okay i see

are u still in school

[swift falcon]

we all contribute to development of said product

no im done

[hoary fern]

oh okay

[swift falcon]

see the only problem is stuff like health insurance

all that businessy hr accounting shit

that’s why I’m thinking we get other ppl out of job

in those fields to fulfill role

[hoary fern]

thats the kind of thing u need to pay an insurance company for though

do u have no health insurance rn

[swift falcon]

yeah the more I think abt it the more we’d have to actually make money

[hoary fern]

lmao

[swift falcon]

like not even to just pay everyone

[hoary fern]

ya if u wanna offer benefits like health insurance

[swift falcon]

well i mean if it’s not mandatory

[hoary fern]

idk what is mandatory

[swift falcon]

it’s hard to tell via google

but basically this would be a company that you like, work for 1-10 hours a week or sth idk

and have a regular job someplace else as a barista or bartender or sth

[hoary fern]

ive never had one of these kinda of jobs, are those enough to live on at part time hours

[swift falcon]

idk

but what else do ppl do here anyways

they just sit and grind leetcode 10hrs a day in mom and dad’s basement

idk maybe i need to research thjs more

i feel like we’re almost there

[outer radish]

Poop

[swift falcon]

i mean that in the nicest way

[west egret]

shitpost

[swift falcon]

like if ppl get bored grinding leetcode just implement some button on CSCD-company-app instead

[hoary fern]

w the little response rates im seeing it feels like lc is rly quickly like diminishing returns and not worth but idk

i havent started applying yet

[swift falcon]

yeah i mean obvs LC is a big part of applying to faangs and shit

so i don’t want to act like this would be better

just sth to do in additionto

[blazing flame]

yo
@pulsar mural

[west egret]

You need LC but you also need there to be postings and to get interviews

It feels bad to do LC while you’re not getting a chance to even use it but you’ll regret it if you put it off and get an interview

[final ore]

There are many postings in linkedin and other sites... but after applying... they say job expired after a week... any specific reason why is this happening?

[swift falcon]

conspiracy

[final ore]

To trick clients that the companies are active?

[obsidian crater]

Yeah

Or they're automated

[hoary fern]

idkif ill get return for full time

im only at tableau for 3 months

unless they fire me mid way throguh

[blazing flame]

u honestly irk me

u got RO b4 why would it change?

[hoary fern]

its for intern vs ft

ft is way more committment

[blazing flame]

unless u actively became terrible at contributing

didn't u ask if the RO would be good for FT?

[hoary fern]

last summer it was around 50% return rate and it didnt even seem that much on performance a lot of ppl couldnt return cuz headcount

[blazing flame]

like i got RO - i asked if i was grad'ing, would i be ft worthy and my manager said yeah

u will be fine regardless relax

[hoary fern]

im not sure if i understand lmao

like return for intern isnt auto return for ft?

[blazing flame]

like hey if i were graduating, would u consider me for ft offer?

and manager said yes

told me if i weren't returning, to email him to see if we could convert intern RO to a potential ft RO

do u not have these convos???

don't leave stuff ambiguous be very direct

[hoary fern]

i didnt ask that

and i got a new manager this summer

didnt return to same manager

[blazing flame]

oh yeah u still have job soph?

[hoary fern]

yeah i dont have much faith in tableau for ft

[blazing flame]

or u got transferred to sf?

[hoary fern]

tableau this summer

[blazing flame]

can u not hijack a salesforce offer

[hoary fern]

they already deposited the housing money in bank acct

[blazing flame]

yesh i know tab at summer, but where

since u were going to sea

[hoary fern]

i dont know it was completely out of their control from what i know

like nobody ik specifically asked to switch to salesforce

[blazing flame]

regardless u will be fine

worst case scenario just work on ur startup

[hoary fern]

ya i am like thinking on what i want to do

lol an idea i had was

if i get return for decent company im ok starting work earlier

but if its a shit company i dont rly want to work at anyway ill push my start til like 9 months after i graduate for me to fuck off and work on other shit / maybe apply to more stuff bc dont wanns work there anyway

idk how far back companies allow u to push start date though

@blazing flame idk if u would know this

[blazing flame]

depends, but some companies push up to a year

most common is 4 mos maybe 6

tho knowing u i can't picture u being a snake

[hoary fern]

being a snake how

[blazing flame]

hi sowwy i joined ur company a month ago for ft, i'm quitting

[hoary fern]

oh yeah i probably wouldnt want to do that

but i mean something like

ok i got offer for shit company i tell them i wanna start in august

continue interviewitn / doing my own thing

if i get a good company ill tell them i start in february or march

and reneg on the shitty company that was suppose to start in august

[pulsar mural]

yo

[hoary fern]

@blazing flame

[pulsar mural]

@blazing flame

[hoary fern]

if that makes sense

[dense remnant]

I'm about to start a full-time position at this small cloud consulting firm in Chicago, making 82,500. All my friends are Cap1 interns going full-time or Microsoft hires making 100,000+. My major was Stats, but I'm hoping to rack up some CS experience at my firm and make the transition to SWE. How the fuck do I go about that process?

[obsidian crater]

realistically, you should go to college

or maybe work as a quant

You're competing against many people with CS degrees in an oversaturated entry level market

[drifting talon]

anyone do karat for bny mellon recently?

[grizzled bronze]

yo

[dense remnant]

but like is CS degree essential when my experience can show compensate?

and possibly referrals

[dense remnant]

with my stats experienc i think i could find a position like this

[obsidian crater]

A CS degree isn't essential

If you have a stats degree you're probably better of going into data science or quant

higher chance of success

Than pure tech

[cloud zinc]

Just reviewed the position reqs for one of my interviews and they want mobile web app devs that use React Native 🤢

I'm gonna be sick

[tawdry nacelle]

if it's with expo, it's not bad

[cloud zinc]

I've struggled with React Native enough to not touch that shit with a 10ft pole

Granted this was back when I was in high school STEM, but it was enough for me to keep that vow for seven years

[tawdry nacelle]

also I start my IT analyst internship Monday, when is a good time to put it on my resume so I can actually apply showing I have an internship under my belt

[tawdry nacelle]

yea RN with Expo is not bad, I used it for my senior design project and enjoyed building the mobile app with it

only issue with using Expo is connecting to bluetooth isn't an option

[cloud zinc]

Different strokes I guess. Not even Expo was enough to mitigate frustrations with developing components, especially in a code for america branch. Everybody I've met who used this tool expressed nothing but hated for it.

[mystic vine]

Anyone know of any consulting company that are hiring right now? HCL does not seem to be hiring right now

[brave forge]

i thought WITCH was still hiring, i see posts from them and some ppl on here say they still pester them sometimes

[shrewd ivy]

Yo

[prime palm]

What is witch?

[deep wasp]

Okay so

Weird thing just happened

Just hit 100 solved LC problems

But job offer didn’t come automatically

What gives ?

[brave forge]

Silly you have to hit 1000 not 100

Back to grind

[deep wasp]

Oh shi

[swift falcon]

who wants to take bets on if this notification is something useful or not?

[obsidian crater]

$69420 it means nothing

[swift falcon]

you win

idgafos abt this

[mortal gyro]

anyone have experience with visa interview process
after codesignal assessment

[loud stump]

almost, chose palantir instead though. just asking for a friend

is there a capital one discord? would be really appreciated!

oh haha, thanks!

[humble heart]

90% of linkedin notifications I get are hit with a "stop showing me shit like this"

[tardy geode]

bruh how do people live off lease

[prisma flax]

what u mean?

[static quarry]

Did you get good code signal score?

[coral finch]

Link ?

[tardy geode]

i have seen 6 people living in a 2bd 1ba apartment with like 4 on lease

[static quarry]

Its inactive now

[prisma flax]

if landlord doesn't come for checking than they are safe

[coral finch]

It still up ? I checked but Visa pays 🥜 though

[tardy geode]

but then what if they gotta sign a new lease somewhere else ?

coz i think most lease applications ask like past lease stuff

[coral finch]

Their main site application is still up

[static quarry]

Oh my bad

[tardy geode]

na , i mean sometimes they ask the managements contact phn etc

management or landlord

[late kestrel]

lol whats 🥜 to you

jw

[coral finch]

45k

[late kestrel]

wait what

whered u see that

[static quarry]

Maybe hes contractor

or she*

[late kestrel]

right but if youre applying to that position you wouldnt be

[coral finch]

Inside source trust me

[late kestrel]

forgive me if i dont believe visa is paying ng swes in austin or CA only 45k

[coral finch]

Better company and pay

Don’t settle for less

[late kestrel]

why u askin for the job link then

[static quarry]

i agree dont settle for 45k

he says he has inside source tho

or she*

[late kestrel]

even WITCH pays as much or more

[coral finch]

Ok stll peanut

[late kestrel]

u ever heard of a lil site called levels

u silly troll

400k is weak i know my worth

[prisma flax]

if your not earning 500k than it's meaningless

[late kestrel]

450k is like one number from 45k so might as well flip burgers at mcds bc youll make essentially the same

[outer radish]

ya'll are shooting for 400k?

trash

if you're not making a million and one dollars by 23 wtf are u doing

[brave forge]

Man us gen Z ers can’t get a break

Million dollars by 23 but the economy is down the drain when we are graduating

[static quarry]

110k bay lowkey not enough

rent is like 2.5k minimum

and taxes

take home gonna be like 200$

[jovial latch]

is the bay area gonna collapse with increasing insanerent costs lol

[static quarry]

Even then

rent still 2k

Minimum

[late kestrel]

[static quarry]

no fr some people think 200k isnt enough in bay area

so entitled

[late kestrel]

looking just at inflation 100k is like 180k now

so you could argue 200k AT THE MAX is the new 100k

even tho thats just a troll post but ppl eat it up

[raw plank]

blind is like twitter bait x100

if youre reading those posts you already lost

[teal jackal]

Me only making $999,999 a year

[urban gulch]

Just being on this sub/cs effs ur perception of tc

My non-cs friends are incredulous of the amount of money that you can make as a swe

[jovial latch]

blegh we gotta keep expectations down

keep people from entering cs

[hoary fern]

min wage there is 18/hr

[jovial latch]

cause my god i just want a job and the pain to end

[urban gulch]

Lots of ppl are extremely happy about making 80k out of uni

[fallen fox]

is it worth dropping out of an interview loop if you think you have zero chance?

[jovial latch]

no

[urban gulch]

I’d say just stick with it for practice at least

And who knows maybe you’ll be pleasantly surprised

[fallen fox]

nah no way i just dont wanna deal with that post interview anxiety anymore

[raw plank]

i pray that even if I become successful I never end up like that

[urban gulch]

Blind seems only useful for the private company forum

But I don’t use it much otherwise anyway

[agile niche]

Hate blind with a burning passion

[chilly burrow]

V useful

[vital leaf]

Just one offer

[agile niche]

Never saw an ounce of positivity on this app

[obsidian crater]

blind is cringe

[vital leaf]

Ready to work for 50k/yr

[chilly burrow]

I've seen 2 posts

Altho yeah its the exception

[vital leaf]

Just one fking offer pls😭

[whole berry]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-punpun-oyasumi-punpun-punpun-onodera-lico-licocore-gif-23014250

need one offer

im ready to learn

[brave forge]

man u read way too much blind

[brave forge]

but the amount of work that goes into becoming a SWE

feels like the other career fields don't make you grind so hard for interviews with leetcode and projects and having internships

[urban gulch]

That’s true ig

But there are grinders in every major

Who’ll put in enough work to get FAANG or whatever

But won’t cuz they’re not in cs/tech

[fossil jewel]

yeah only med/law tbh

getting into med school requires so much

near perfect gpa

[urban gulch]

Med/law is way harder

[fossil jewel]

rec letters, extra curricular

you can have a sub 3.0 in cs and still get a good job

[brave forge]

Ya long term it is with how hard uni is . i would have never had the parent support or money to go for med or law anyways CS is the only thing that made sense

[bold pier]

Yeah, good or bad GPA has hardly been a problem applying to jobs till now

[oblique wasp]

Is anyone aware of the current EAD approval wait time?

[bold pier]

I got it within a month in March, not sure now. Expect it to be slower

[oblique wasp]

Cool, thanks!

[brave forge]

i have a 3.75 and it probably won't even help me lol

if i do land a ton of interviews this summer for ng 2024, maybe I will be proven wrong

[normal palm]

Same ngl

It hardly matters but jw

[bold pier]

I have 3.95, had 4.0 for first 2 sems. Didn't even land an internship interview

Doesn't matter at all

[west egret]

GPA doesn't matter that much

Had a 4.0 during internship search and I got resume rejected by McDonalds + Chick-fil-a

[bold pier]

I wish

[west egret]

It can help

[bold pier]

I mean it works, but not in this market..right now it's just luck

[west egret]

but the thing is that the difference between a 3.5 and a 4.0 isn't that much imo

[normal palm]

This market is actual doo doo

[west egret]

for internship/FT positions*

Agreed. The other part is that not all schools are equal which is why I think GPA is relatively pointless.

4.0 at average state school shouldn't hold more value over 3.5 at a t5 CS school for example

I guess but do you want them questioning your integrity if they ever requested a transcript

I don't think background check will check on GPA?

I'd think BG check is just to confirm that you were actually enrolled at the school you said you were at

but yeah I wouldn't lie over something as minor as GPA

Like when I hear stories of ppl lying about internships on their resumes... 💀

what do they think is going to happen when an employer does a background check? I'm assuming they're trying to get a decently well known company(which will prob do a BG check).

[bold pier]

As an ex-meta, ex-hrt, ex-google senior software engineer I find this offensive

[brave forge]

ya lol it's so dumb

everyone has 4.0 at my uni because it is too easy

[worn wigeon]

is the ramp challenge working for anyone?

on the application

Please solve the challenge and submit solutions in the field below: https://0ijq1i6sp1.execute-api.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/dev

[obsidian crater]

It's working as intended

[brave forge]

keeping noobs out

[faint umbra]

Linkedin easy apply is the biggest scam !

[rain patio]

Is anyone hiring

I need a job desperately

[brave forge]

im hiring a pro gamer to boost me to diamond rank

[obsidian crater]

McDonalds

[brave forge]

sorry i only play rainbow 6 siege

[raw plank]

damn inflation hitting the boosting services too

[red nimbus]

anyone interviewed with Modular?

[split plaza]

where can I use this 841 Square codesignal rn

[raw plank]

bro if I got 841 on a codesignal I would expect to be hired as CEO

you got scammed af if you didnt get an offer

[late kestrel]

deer and wolves and cars

[ornate cliff]

You know the economy is fucked when your Uber eats comes in a Maserati

[brave forge]

wtf who is delivering food in a car that costs 100k and has a V8

[rigid quail]

this can't be real

[tardy geode]

ayo what the

[ornate cliff]

It is I checked when she pulled up LMAO

[tardy geode]

bro is doing side missions

[static quarry]

gotta pay off her car after layoffs

[azure zephyr]

youre right i should order uber eats

[outer radish]

Call that a business expense

The tax man will never know im writing my uber eats ferarri off

[swift falcon]

I woke up in a new bugatti

[obsidian crater]

What color?

[eager schooner]

hold up you on to something with that

[outer radish]

on second thought, if the tax man can book al capone on tax fraud

they can book my ass at the mcdonalds

[swift falcon]

bloo

I applied to job today

FIS

totally gonna get it

[jovial latch]

eh the irs budget has been slashed and weakened for decades i doubt they're anywhere near as capable as they were back then

[teal jackal]

These shits are dirt cheap used btw

[normal palm]

LOLL

[distant pebble]

that's about to me and my audi in few months

[drowsy pollen]

It's usually not a good format

[rain patio]

Not worth having 2 pages because they will not pay as much attention to the second page and it’s important to highlight your most important experiences vs everything

[drowsy pollen]

You can use two pages if you have a lot of relevant, essential experience and skills for the specific job you are applying to. Although, usually people who are applying to senior level jobs with many years of experience mainly use two pages

[outer radish]

You didnt hear they just got a massive budget increase

Taxman boutta book you for not paying taxes on ur hubba bubba from dollar tree

[distant pebble]

i wouldnt put it just for the sake of having it

[drowsy pollen]

Absolutely

You can also bold specific terms in work details that jobs are looking for

[jovial latch]

the skills section on my resume exists for the purpose of keyword parsing lol

ideally i get a job that lets me segway into like cloud or ml shit, cause those fields will be safe and good in the future

but ill take any job atm

this might end soon im in the interview process for 6 different companies rn

AHHHHH

thats the highest amount of companies ive been in the pipeline for at the same time god could this actually end soon

nah

Also id just stick to 1 page resume

It feels ridiculous to have 2 pages for a new grad resume

You can tighten margins and lower font to like 11

Eh text is good

You just have to be concise with it

[outer radish]

oh fuck 6?

recently applied type beat?

and yo what's everyone's thoughts on adding personal projects if I've got 3 internships including a faang on the resume

[jovial latch]

I mean it's all about space right

[outer radish]

fuck

[jovial latch]

What takes the most priority for your space

[outer radish]

I've got club leadership on tehre already

so space wise I could fit at least two more bullet points I'm thinking

oh shit thats stacked

oh fuck

bro if you're not making it past how tf am i supposed to contend

just with zon

market truly is fucked rn

[jovial latch]

I have 5 internships (non faajg cause I fucking suck), tutoring job, a class project, and a club leadership thing
But it's really just that in applying to fucking everything

[outer radish]

faang no more, if you didnt invent circle ai like that 21 year old did then dont apply

[outer radish]

yeah i've got pretty much the same resume

[jovial latch]

It might be how and when you're applying to jobs

[outer radish]

i think at this point most teams are looking for someone that has the exact experience and tech stack that they're working on

if not the same product

cause that's what I've been reached out for

wym how though

you click easy apply and send that mf in

[jovial latch]

I've been fortunate enough to have a variety of technology experience so my resume passes the keyword check lol

[outer radish]

naw fuck a cover letter, no shot they're reading that let alone my personal port site

yo @jovial latch you got anonimized resume?

[jovial latch]

Yea

[bold pier]

Why do these HR send email asking for interview times and then ghost forever

[jovial latch]

Recruiters often also miss emails

[bold pier]

found the recruiter here

[jovial latch]

LMAO

Nah fuck em

It ain't no excuse

Gross

[swift falcon]

hot

[bold pier]

I don't ever miss an email unless I am intentionally ignoring it, they just suck

[teal jackal]

Recruiters are usually sorority girls xd

[outer radish]

I feel like a zebra without a mf leg in the desert rn

just waiting for a lion to eat me

[teal jackal]

Sorority girl recruiters chasing down nolife coder men

Recruiting

[jovial latch]

Once I actually did miss an interview cause I didn't see the email but I just lied that it showed up in my spam

[bold pier]

Must be nice people if they still interviewed you in this economy

[outer radish]

LMAO

[distant pebble]

[jovial latch]

Eh is alright
It's moreso that this company hires through my college and from prior interviews they really like me

[swift falcon]

why is this so true

[outer radish]

yeah mcdonalds hires from my school

[swift falcon]

and they can never spell either

[outer radish]

to run the grill

[distant pebble]

If u interviewed last cycle for intern. At least for me a whole bunch of recruiters I got offer from asked if I was interested in ng at the company

[outer radish]

thats actually a clutch manager

[distant pebble]

Speedrun time?

Lmfao if I get palantir return I’m getting the fuck out of my school lol
Idc if apple/monad fall intern better I want out of gulag

[jovial latch]

eh is alright, i dont think my resume is fucking like 'no life cs guy boutta make 200 at quant good' and it aint dogshit

[distant pebble]

Lol 200 isn’t that great, at least where I interned it was 400k+

[teal jackal]

Bruh stop imitating techie, his misogynist language seems to have left a strong impression on you guys

[timber rock]

I’m glad techie was banned. He made me feel discriminated against and unsafe

[distant pebble]

Nah depends on where u work, but if it’s 200k it’s probably not that great of a firm
Like quant is overrated imo there is decent amount of firms that r quant but I wouldn’t take ft, like I turned down millennium and square point just cuz it was negative ev compared to working for big tech

[outer radish]

gonna reapply and defend the shit out of North america when the apps come up

got any tips for their process tho

[distant pebble]

I signed a nda so I can’t really say much but it’s a lot diff from leetcode, hard to describe technical w/o really experiencing it first hand
Process is decently long tho imo

[cloud zinc]

Anyone conducted an interview with LogicManager before?

[distant pebble]

If I’m being honest u can’t really prepare for it, but ig being used to working w and debugging large libraries of code is somewhat helpful

[static quarry]

@woven folio make website for extra info u cant fit on 1 page

[west egret]

McDonalds wouldn’t hire me

[peak bolt]

Hey, if I graduate in December 2024, can I still apply and get in for newgrad apps that come in for summer 2024?

[teal jackal]

Isn't grinding for quant pointless at sde3/senior level anyways

Honestly quant is too much work

To get into

Not to mention the work itself

[whole berry]

its a way to make money faster and retire early

so getting into that is not bad if youre looking to start a business later or just become a landlord or sum shit

[teal jackal]

Hmm true

I think the appeal of quant is making stupid money as a new grad

You get such a big net worth boost

Earlier you get it you get a big advantage long term too

[whole berry]

no id say you should get it later on in life

as a new grad the work load is usually insane

and you wanna hone your abilities and have good stress management techniques

so you can better perform day to day in a quant

lack of stress management will take years off your life if you get into it early enough

[polar fox]

How often do u guys get codesignal #4s correct? Its so hard for me to not get timeout error

Does grinding more dp specifically help?

[whole berry]

the 4th questions just usually involve tricks

either that or a specific algorithm you genuinely may not have come across

its luck imo

[outer radish]

curious what this entails, cause I've been reading books like grit and mindset - any resources?

but in terms of actual "hows" of how to approach that they're a bit lacking

[whole berry]

like not getting anxious easily

prioritizing deadlines while not getting stressed

detaching after work

these things you learn in any job

but the real test is quants

[swift falcon]

mcdonalds crew new grad inc

[obsidian crater]

Quant workload is less than IB

Pretty much any career new grad is less stressful than IB

My friend works at JPMorgan as an investment banking analyst and regularly puts in 80-90 hour workweeks and weekends. It's basically legal hazing.

[tawdry nacelle]

hey is it a good idea to put my internship that starts next week on my resume if I start Monday and I put on there it starts this month?

[distant pebble]

I think if u have a decent math foundation u can do well on it most of the time

Got a lot better after grinding all of clrs last summer

[whole berry]

Ya I gotta hop on clrs after I finish some other recommended lists

[tawdry nacelle]

Top

I do name/contact, education, then skills

[whole berry]

This why y’all love working for palantir ??

[fringe coral]

Got tiktok phone for full time job, are there any peers?

[ornate cliff]

how was the OA?

[fringe coral]

Not from university recruit so no oa

[jovial rain]

I just did round 2 for frontend e-commerce

[swift falcon]

rejected by FIS less than 24h lmfao

[dusky tapir]

4th question is impossible bruv ngl

[dusky tapir]

The only time I got it right was when it accepted the brute force for some reason

[ancient raft]

anyone gave Barclays Developer Analyst interview?

[raw plank]

What’s clrs

[iron lily]

we have no ethics here

[tardy geode]

[tawdry nacelle]

Nah I still have morals to not work for defense

[pulsar mural]

yo

[tawdry nacelle]

Yo

Peak anime, but also every CS major that skips their humanities classes

[tardy geode]

Yo

@pulsar mural

@pulsar mural

[rigid quail]

@pulsar mural

[tawdry nacelle]

@pulsar mural

[pine topaz]

@pulsar mural Hey, hope your having a great Thursday 🙂

[grizzled bronze]

yo

[obsidian crater]

I applied with a referral

Inshallah we hear back

[cloud zinc]

Speaking of which, I find that whole ring ceremony from the order of the engineer really funny

its supposed to be a "vow" to do good with engineering. But when my college conducted the ceremony, the vast majority of participants secured offers from Lockheed and Raython.

The ring is alright but we got bills to pay

[teal jackal]

Morality is flexible

If you cope hard enough or intrinsically believe in interventionism, you can believe Working in military tech is good

Actually the funny thing is that my cs college made us do a morality and ethics pledge during our ceremony

All of us were like "cap"

Me tbh my thoughts on working in defense is that the industry will exist regardless of whether or not you join and whether or not you find it ethical

They don't do much real work anyways

[timber rock]

ok but missiles are cool

getting put on pip cause my american freedom missiles didnt kill enough innocent people

[brave forge]

depends, if you work in defense and have to stay in a SCIF 9 hours a day then it can quickly drive you crazy. Also you are often working with low level code in embedded and C++, and your pay isn't even that high like 80k-100k for entry level.

you can't even look at your phone or work from home in defense, it takes most of the advantages of being an SWE away

[teal jackal]

Bro you're British y'all do that shit too

But to a lesser extent I admit

[dusky tapir]

Working in defense right now, literally the only person who uses a scif on my team is my Tech lead

[brave forge]

not lesser, they were the #1 for hundreds of years till the USA overtook them

and every war the US has fought since the 2000s, the UK was with us

[teal jackal]

I only say lesser because the USA is the ringleader

The British just follow

[obsidian crater]

The Bri*ish are too busy affording petrol right now innit

[timber rock]

[obsidian crater]

Defense isn't even all that bad ethically

Have you heard of Wall Street?

[foggy basin]

is this a joke

[obsidian crater]

no

[pine topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-love-creeper-psycho-sweet-gif-14432194

[obsidian crater]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[tawdry nacelle]

we didn't even do that at mine lol

[pure mauve]

just raw dogged my db final lmfao

[chilly burrow]

Best of luck 🙏

[pure mauve]

lmfao yeah hopefully

idk the last hm didnt seem like she like me

so i prolly got fucked

[tawdry nacelle]

doesn't tiktok pay more for new grad?

[west egret]

I read that as database final initially instead of databricks

[pure mauve]

P sure db pays more

[radiant juniper]

Y'all ngl idek what else to do to get these companies to just not ghost me and at least get my foot in the door to interview

hardly anyone is hiring new grads still, and those that are just want to lowball so hard its not even funny

where are y'all looking for jobs? what sites?

[swift falcon]

YJGSTDFJ

[radiant juniper]

got a family here to provide for deep sigh

[shut crescent]

anyone interview for spacex yet?

specifically for data engineering

[dusty basin]

low-paying job > no job

[bold pier]

Friends I graduated today, pls gib job

[winged jay]

some tips and tricks one can follow in this market to land a job ?

[obsidian crater]

Not much to be honest

Just get good at interviewing so you don't lose any opportunities you might get

[winged jay]

all the best 🔮

[grizzled bronze]

Anyone here interview for Discord Manager role with OpenAI?

@chilly burrow

[chilly burrow]

Y r u askin me

I'm not nearly qualified

(My BMI is too low)

[obsidian crater]

It's bulking season

[chilly burrow]

Yessir

Tryna put on some xtra lbs

Rn at 180~190

Tryna hit 200

[obsidian crater]

rookie numbers

you gotta weigh in at least 350 if you want that OpenAI gig

[chilly burrow]

Baby steps

U gotta start somewhere

350 is a future I'm tryna actualize

[grizzled bronze]

Nah you're just being humble, out of this group you stand the biggest chance

after Kirby

[chilly burrow]

I'd say the biggest chance out of this group is still pretty low, lol

Also I'm legitimately not qualified

They want someone who is good at communicating

I'm a cs major...

[cloud zinc]

I got an online career aptitude assessment from LogicManager after my initial interview, despite the HR manager stating that my results will come by Monday. Does this mean I passed the initial interview?

Or is this a part of the first round?

[chilly burrow]

Id possible

I'd ask to delay ng role start date

Don't list the internship on your resume or LinkedIn

Yeah I'd take one internship and then delay the fulltime start date

Snowflake > Sofi imo

Ok

But I wouldn't turn down the ft job

Just because it's guaranteed employment

[median thistle]

Since they can find out you did something in the middle

[chilly burrow]

Ehhh idt it is

[brave forge]

how did u get past snowflake OA?

must be smart not like me i am taking Snowflake intern OA next week

do they use the same questions??

ppl leaked all of them by now

Ya they rotate

i guess best u can do is solve and memorize all the solutions for their known base

and hope it comes up

[chilly burrow]

Best of luck 🙏

The market is ruff rn 😞

At least you have a ft job to fall back on 😊

[brave forge]

when u past snowflake OA, did you solve all 3 questions perfectly?

[obsidian crater]

pretty sure you have to

[brave forge]

maybe if i can figure out all the questions i might have a chance lol

im done for fall internships suck nobody is getting back to me

maybe my summer intern will let me work for them in fall

[prisma flax]

man anyone hearing back from companies by cold applying ?

[obsidian crater]

I got an AMD referral

I must do every leetcode in existence

[prisma flax]

got the interview call?

[obsidian crater]

nope

only applied last night though

[prisma flax]

I never heard back after cold applying maybe am too dumb

[obsidian crater]

cold applying is lowest success chance

[brave forge]

did ANYONE get amd interview?

i havent heard a single person

[prisma flax]

make sense

[brave forge]

how many hrs per day lol

[obsidian crater]

Idk on glassdoor seems like someone posted March end about their interview

With AMD

[prisma flax]

Ya, never got a single call back except some OA's but those are auto generated ones

[brave forge]

im doing like 8 hrs or more basically my whole day

[chilly burrow]

I've heard they ask more trivia like qs

At least from a friend

[obsidian crater]

Interesting

Glassdoor says they ask OS concepts + LC mediums and I see DP mentioned a lot

[chilly burrow]

Yeah my friend was asked OS stuff

But i guess the potnl qs vary

[brave forge]

i never even took an OS class

guess i can scratch AMD off

[prisma flax]

lmao I forgot most of the OS

[obsidian crater]

I never took an OS class either

But I took distributed systems, systems programming and a class on microprocessors

[chilly burrow]

Ostep is a good resource

[obsidian crater]

thanks mane

how do you know so many resources?

[chilly burrow]

🤷‍♂️

[brave forge]

soulkks is certified grinder

[chilly burrow]

I haven't grinded for a while now

[prisma flax]

I just wanna know how folks are getting interview with cold applying

[obsidian crater]

Idk if they are

I haven't gotten much from cold applyin

[prisma flax]

I never gotten a reply

most of my applications even after reaching out are getting rejected due to sponsorship

[brave forge]

huh i wonder what my 2024 ng response rates will be

[prisma flax]

I got a HM he told would schedule the first round but after 2 days I got a reject

[chilly burrow]

I've had in the past, but those were better days...

These days it's extremely difficult

I personally know of a few people who heard back with no other exp

But it's very luck based

[obsidian crater]

Life is just unfair lol

[prisma flax]

I feel that market is very saturated and companies are just dragging on and interviewing bunch of them and offering only 1 or 2 positions

[obsidian crater]

My friend who didn't even finish blind 75 is making $170K TC

Just because he graduated in 2022

Now his company isn't hiring new grads this year because they can poach all the laid off seniors.

[prisma flax]

maybe he's cracked in problem solving

[obsidian crater]

I don't think so

His major was computer engineering so he did more hardware stuff than algorithms

Only started LC in his last semester

Just got lucky

[chilly burrow]

Luck helps someone get an opportunity

[prisma flax]

ohh my roommate he cracked meta and amazon without doing leetcode ( it's almost 2 years back )

[chilly burrow]

But it still takes skill to pass the interview

[obsidian crater]

absolutely

[chilly burrow]

For swe?

[obsidian crater]

he definitely is no chump

But it's unfortunate that the same company he works at won't even send me an OA because they poached FAANG seniors

Just unlucky tbh

[prisma flax]

amazon applied scientist, he got meta after leaving to Seattle so not sure about position

[chilly burrow]

Well I'm pretty sure applied sci doesn't ask lc anyway

It's a different skillset afaik

[prisma flax]

ya some do get lucky, one of them got into some company where they asked only behavioral

[prisma flax]

he had a long interview, told it was mostly about his research paper and drilled on some problem and techniques

but he did say one was just pure coding round

[chilly burrow]

Yeah afaik research-oriented role don't care too much about algorithmic thinking

So if they did ask an algo q it'd prob not b 2 diff

[brave forge]

Ya in the new world you have to make leetcode your life to have a chance

I’m totally intent on solving like a massive amount of problems every day till the end of this year

[winged jay]

how many per day ?

[brave forge]

3 usually, sometimes like 4 or 5

[winged jay]

im done after 2 my brain says go have party

[brave forge]

I fight that by saying “no” and panicking about more days passing

Also discussing solutions on discord helps a ton

Get feedback and be more motivated from other ppl instead of solving alone

[winged jay]

nice, i'll try to do that

[tardy geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585758820102569984.gif?size=240&quality=lossless

[autumn iris]

same

[bold pier]

Can see a lot more new jobs on LinkedIn in last few days,
Nature is healing

United States of America

[tardy geode]

yea me too

[brave forge]

Same man good location

[cloud zinc]

Indeed has a lot more job postings than linkedin

You can find a lot of no-names looking for somebody

[brave forge]

https://blackrock.tal.net/vx/lang-en-GB/mobile-0/brand-3/xf-232eb66ac89a/candidate/so/pm/1/pl/1/opp/7893-Analyst-Program-Americas/en-GB
hey 2024 new grad job dropped. Any tips on applying to a trading firm? It says you'll be asked to write a cover letter and do a CodeVue assessment

doesn't say anything about tech stack

[serene nymph]

what do you mean?

[brave forge]

Like the description it doesn't mention anything about what skills you need

I guess ill just apply with my resume

[timber rock]

Fwiw, they list the tech they use if you go on the early careers page and click software engineering

[iron lily]

blackrock barely hired this year I think

don’t think anyone from this sever got anything from them outside of the automated OA

[brave forge]

oh rip

do u know if palantir hired anyone

or sofi

according to 2023 new-grad tracker, Palintir should post on the 13th of June so they'll be one of the first out

[iron lily]

they both hired a decent amount

Especially palantir

[brave forge]

Oh okay ill be targeting that when it comes out

😭

[west egret]

“How was HM?” every 3 days

[tardy geode]

this stealth startup has been telling me since 2 fucking weeks that i am in their top 3 choices 💀

what should i do to expediate?

[brave forge]

call them and yell at them to hurry up

[tardy geode]

[swift falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-kill-them-all-pirata-matalos-a-todos-matalos-a-todos-pirata-gif-15217348

[obsidian crater]

I have my last exam today and I don't have a job

Feeling sad af

[brave forge]

are u going to pass the exam

[obsidian crater]

yeah prolly

[brave forge]

i thought you were sr risk manager @ 1st republic

[bold pier]

He's just the first republican to take a risk

[tardy geode]

[timber rock]

Thanks linkedin I will do that

[fossil jewel]

damn u got him on LI?

[obsidian crater]

Ask him to give you a gig at Goldman

[bold pier]

Jpmc recruiter called, what is their interview process like?

[brave forge]

For what role?

they dont even really hire apparently

there it is an Auto OA

you can practice with that

[timber rock]

Nope too busy fucking up my country to accept my request

[bold pier]

general screener for backend developer

[brave forge]

Ya not much out yet rn

Just a little bit longer though, we should see Palintir and SoFi drop in 2-3 more weeks that'll be the first real place

Ya id keep it on

and have a good outfit

[timber rock]

I just copy what they do

[brave forge]

personal impressions matter too i think. I know some ppl do interviews entirely no-cam. But ya if they are camera on, you should also

[timber rock]

I join with it off and turn it on if theirs is on

Like 95% of the time it is

[fossil jewel]

always have it on for me. The work is on you to make a good impression, they have more leverage to make or break your next steps

[west egret]

For interviews, I always have camera on

[pine topaz]

People say you are treated better if you are handsome, so i always turn mine on. Infact it is how I met @pulsar mural on omegele and how our relationship blossomed.