#2023_grads

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swift falcon
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ah i see

obsidian crater
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I’m glad techie was banned. He made me feel discriminated against and unsafe

timber rock
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I’m glad techie was banned. He made me feel discriminated against and unsafe

fallen fox
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I’m glad techie was banned. He made me feel discriminated against and unsafe

grizzled bronze
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We need Yogi unbanned though, at least he works at Google

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It's a great loss for this Discord banning a Googler, we all need referrals

obsidian crater
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Yogi won't give anyone referrals

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He is too cracked

grizzled bronze
obsidian crater
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Yogi is married though

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Idk what sexist shit he said

timber rock
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i don’t think i’ve ever seen yogi talk about anything other than his tc

grizzled bronze
fallen fox
obsidian crater
grizzled bronze
dusty basin
swift falcon
west egret
# timber rock i don’t think i’ve ever seen yogi talk about anything other than his tc

Yogi isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a SWE with such high TC as an L3? Yogi puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a SWE with his skill and passion for the game again. Interviewers break your hopes and dreams. Tech companies break their promises. Yogi breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

fallen fox
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Yogi isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a SWE with such high TC as an L3? Yogi puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a SWE with his skill and passion for the game again. Interviewers break your hopes and dreams. Tech companies break their promises. Yogi breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

rain patio
obsidian crater
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Yogi isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a SWE with such high TC as an L3? Yogi puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a SWE with his skill and passion for the game again. Interviewers break your hopes and dreams. Tech companies break their promises. Yogi breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

cloud zinc
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I am absolutely lost

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off topic, but are there any alternatives to glassdoor for company/position reviews?

pulsar mural
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@lunar sonnet

west egret
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@pulsar mural

static quarry
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for visa code signal i got 1,2,4 and WAS so close to 3

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but ran out of time :/

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does anyone have experience with visa new grad process

teal jackal
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@pulsar mural

serene nymph
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fuk databricks?

tawdry nacelle
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I hate places that make you do OAs to apply, not to go through the interview process, but to just apply and get auto rejected 24 hours later

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and it's fucking codesignal too which I hate the most out of all OA sites

tawdry nacelle
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tbh I'm debating not even finishing this app bc it's stupid how companies wanna do that

tawdry nacelle
grizzled bronze
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Block's process is really long too

tawdry nacelle
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They better pay really good if that's the case

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they are a san fran comapny and remote so that should say MINIMUM $100k

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bc if you do all of that and they only offer you 70k, I would be livid

grizzled bronze
tawdry nacelle
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for SF? you cannot survive on that there

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the cost of living in SF is dumb high

tawdry nacelle
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still annoyed by how long that interview length and needing to do an OA before even getting your app reviewed is stupid

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TikTok also does something similar to where everytime I've applied with for their new grad roles, they make you do a hackerrank assessment before your resume gets reviewed

grizzled bronze
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It's annoying, but did you see how many applicants that block app got?

tawdry nacelle
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no

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but seeing how you brought it up, it's probably a lot

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where do you even see how many people applied?

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shiiiit that does sound good

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also doesn't seem bad, they look like they work with online payment systems?

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I have a thing where as long as I'm not working for a defense company, I don't really care what the company does

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oh so you don't need to do it before they review your resume

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tbh the job is backend, but I'm hoping they might try and put me in the mobile/frontend teams

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oh so like tiktok where after you apply for X amount of days they'll email you saying to do the OA

grizzled bronze
tawdry nacelle
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I have some backend experience but I'm definitely stronger in those fields

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tbh those are the roles I ideally want but I will take anything

tawdry nacelle
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TS* and I know Java

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ok but if they give me a Java template, it's not game over for me

grizzled bronze
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Even if I got two, I'd still accept just one, I can learn better and then job hop after a year

pine topaz
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yeah id get burnt out so fast

teal jackal
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Wait some people don't want to do bwckendv

static quarry
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backend >>

tawdry nacelle
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I've been told to do LC in less wordy languages in order to save time writing the code, so do something like python

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yea my first ever OA I did in Java and I timed out bc Idk that

teal jackal
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I got fucked in bum

tawdry nacelle
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That might be from the idea how a lot of bootcamps from what I see only teach people js and how to make React apps

teal jackal
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JavaScript is ass

tawdry nacelle
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Idk for my uni, all data structure and algo classes and low level coding classes are taught in C/Java

teal jackal
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Interesting, I didn't know that JavaScript frameworks were so oversaturated because of boot camps and tutorials

tawdry nacelle
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Yea that I'm not surprised bc in my case we were forced to learn it for a required core class you are supposed to take your junior/senior year and a good amount of SD projects are web and mobile apps so people still use it so it's most fresh in their minds unless they love coding in a particular language or internship experience with a different language

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well also isn't the issue of JS the compiler with node.js, bc I remember hearing people to make their own version of node that fixes the issues of node

teal jackal
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I philosophically just don't like js

tawdry nacelle
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I like it and know it has it's issues, but every language has it's issues

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eh my senior design project (meant for and put on both app stores) in js with my group and it wasn't bad

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the most annoying part I remember getting annoyed over was when it came to hosting the backend on Azure

severe pendant
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has anyone interviewed with veeva recently ?

fresh mango
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Java interview

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Was wild 1

severe pendant
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dogesmile is it hard

tardy geode
timber rock
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Just finished uni

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1 month until I become a wage slave for the rest of my life

autumn iris
tardy geode
brave forge
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I wanna be a wage slavey please

tardy geode
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see i am throwing green paper at you

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that's how politicians become millionaires

obsidian crater
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ratata

south sable
autumn iris
tardy geode
autumn iris
tardy geode
bold pier
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Same bestie!

bold pier
steep sundial
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I love being micro-managed. Said no one ever

old vector
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has anyone interviewed for plaid for new grad here

swift falcon
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better than all the cookie cutter word salad shits you get out in the wild

tacit jasper
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When should I start applying for 2024 new grad stuff

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is the github list repo up yet

crystal steppe
brave forge
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apparently June will be when amazon and capital one will come out, based on how they did new-grad last year it dropped in June

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it actually sucks im not ready for capitalone but they are my 2024 dream company i got to double time grind

crystal steppe
brave forge
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wtf amazon delaying new grad. I guess they can be a backup company amazoncope amazoncope amazoncope

swift falcon
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is there a guide somewhere on all this lingo and shit

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i been in this server for like a month and still have no idea what is actually going on with this and the timelines for positions

brave forge
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basically 2024 is going to be the worst year for new-grads in history and the companies will be going crazy trying weird new tactics for hiring to make new-grad life even worse just because they have so much demand for their probably even fewer positions then last year they are hiring for. Also June might see some big companies drop new-grad 2024 positions, but most will come out in July or August

obsidian crater
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2024 isn't the worst year lol

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probably 2008

crystal steppe
sonic coral
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Thousands of laid off industry people competing with 2023 and 2024 fresh grads

rigid quail
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i don’t understand how 2024 will be worse than 2023

tardy geode
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how foolish of em

rigid quail
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if the layoffs stop eventually teams will get budgets to hire

tardy geode
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"markets gonna be better in dec" .... ass statement imo

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companies are doing mini layoffs and that too many aren't aware of silent layoffs happening

rigid quail
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and why does that mean 2024 will be worse

tardy geode
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coz many laidoff peeps are on severance and severance means legally they are employed

rigid quail
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the demand will be higher because many newgrads will carry over to next year but that doesn’t mean the supply of jobs will be less

tardy geode
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also 2023 people who have just taken something to stop unemployment would be competing too

sonic coral
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Msft literally had a fresh round like a month ago

tardy geode
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no wonder amazon would do more layoffs

rigid quail
sonic coral
steep sundial
tardy geode
tardy geode
rigid quail
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i do and they’re compensating for it right now, but big tech is not everything not everyone overhired

tardy geode
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smh its as good as not hiring

sonic coral
old vector
obsidian crater
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it's over bro

steep sundial
obsidian crater
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rip us

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should've become a pharmacist or something

west egret
crystal steppe
timber rock
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if you guys really cared about the market you would switch career to reduce competition in tech

obsidian crater
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tech is oversaturated now so most of us gonna be unemployed

crystal steppe
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People are saying there's gonna be demand for EE for quantum computing

west egret
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Over saturated for entry level for sure

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Mid and senior idk

crystal steppe
obsidian crater
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Companies now call 3 years of exp junior

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So idk lol

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also if you can't get any entry level jobs

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you can't even really become senior

west egret
obsidian crater
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I'd say like 90% of entry level or "Jr" positions ask for 1-3

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There are very few postings that literally mention new grad or 0 experience

west egret
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It’s also the end of 2023 season

crystal steppe
west egret
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So there would be less NG positions in general….

timber rock
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new grads don’t usually go for straight up junior positions

west egret
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I always saw requirements on postings as a wishlist

timber rock
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it’s very normal for junior positions to ask for at least 1 yoe

west egret
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Unless it’s about whether you qualify as a NG, security clearance, etc it doesn’t matter

fossil jewel
obsidian crater
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I don't think I'm ever getting a job tbh

fossil jewel
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its definitely harder for intl

west egret
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Next to nothing

obsidian crater
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rip

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I mean I don't literally mean pharmacist

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But maybe like an accountant or something

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Some non tech career

fossil jewel
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accounting is aight

obsidian crater
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wtf

fossil jewel
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also tax season is like 80hr weeks

obsidian crater
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🤷‍♂️ IBs work 80-90 hours too

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I mean you're taking the pharmacist thing too literally

tardy geode
obsidian crater
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I'm saying if I had known I would struggle so much to get a tech job

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I'd probably have picked a different major

tardy geode
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dude spring 2021 was peak hiring

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like people didn't have 2 hands enough for holding offers

timber rock
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tech is like the cushiest field ever

sonic coral
fossil jewel
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not all i think

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you gonna need audit

obsidian crater
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I mean tech is cushy

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But hard to get a job in now

timber rock
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for sure but it’ll let up soon (ish)

fossil jewel
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c++ more like c--

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bc its worse

west egret
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Yeah but every fields has their downturns

sonic coral
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Like you’ll just have one head accountant using chatgpt or whatever

fossil jewel
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maybe

tardy geode
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😭

fossil jewel
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my brother does accounting

lunar hatch
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C++ learning curve is unimaginable

tardy geode
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if god wants me to progress in this country it will happen

timber rock
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Intls kinda fucked cause all the companies that froze are the same ones who sponsor

west egret
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Both my sister and cousin transitioned out of their careers as accountants

timber rock
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Lots of small and med companies still hiring

lunar hatch
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I wrote 3 yrs of cpp but I barely regard myself as mastering it

fallen fox
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any ropers in chat

obsidian crater
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me

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I'm finna rope

west egret
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Anecdotal dude

sonic coral
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I feel like rich people accountants will always exist too to find tax loopholes for the ultra wealthy

fossil jewel
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yeah unless you make chatgpt corrupt too

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lol

west egret
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Also not good to make blanket statements about entire professions

sonic coral
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They have the money to spend on a personal accountant and prob won’t fuck with ai

obsidian crater
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See the difference between accounting and CS is

fossil jewel
obsidian crater
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All the accounting grads I know got jobs

tardy geode
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from next month onwards my loan payment starts

obsidian crater
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None of the CS grads I know got jobs this year

sonic coral
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You think some old money billionaire gonna trust a bot to launder his money KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

fresh mango
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people w ead starting next month, what y’all doing to get interviews? Asking for a friend, this cold applying only get me waiting for some miracle e-mail. PepeHands

fossil jewel
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like with the writers strike im seeing ppl happy for the writers getting kicked off in favor in chatgpt

west egret
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I mean go into a group of physicians and wonder what they’ll think about your level of knowledge on medicine lol

fossil jewel
obsidian crater
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tbh if I wasn't intl I'd be fine

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I'd go work for lockheed or something

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being intl = rope

sonic coral
tardy geode
fresh mango
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get a security clearance

sonic coral
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But Hollywood gonna be Hollywood and will be as greedy as possible

fresh mango
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andruil boutta pick u up

tardy geode
fossil jewel
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they will try and them shows gonna be ass

fresh mango
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Bro needs top secret clearance for janitor position

fossil jewel
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like we really like destroying our humanity damn

tardy geode
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OnlyFans is the way

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for monies

fossil jewel
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💀

sonic coral
tardy geode
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link in my bio

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🔗

obsidian crater
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tbh we need to cull half the earth

tardy geode
west egret
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I mean cashiers are already being replaced with kiosks

obsidian crater
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LMAO

west egret
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I actively go to the self checkout because it’s just faster

tardy geode
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bruh complaining Cringe laughcry

sonic coral
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Lmfao OF girls learning about supply and demand in real time

tardy geode
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that's coz mainstream PStars are hopping on OF

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to making monies

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like shit. ton

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like they leaving Phub and shit for OF

fresh mango
tardy geode
prisma flax
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everything is fucked up

fossil jewel
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at some point tho, would it be so easy to discern real vs fake

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yeah honestly deep fakes

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i cant think of a good use for them

prisma flax
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everything is a fake at this

outer radish
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anyone here been interviewed for cloud or mobile positions know what questions they usually ask outside of LC

timber rock
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completely depends on the company as always

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all i have experience with for those roles is expedia and they just ask lc for mobile dev

outer radish
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two separate teams

fossil jewel
stuck moat
outer radish
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worked with kube, terrafrom and helm before but not sure if i know enough to get grilled on

foggy basin
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wtf are ppl even applying to rn

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like technically 2023 szn is over and 2024 started right

grizzled bronze
swift falcon
foggy basin
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new grad szn no?

swift falcon
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idk

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there's still 7 months left?!

foggy basin
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like june/july is when seniors graduating in 2024 have applications

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is what i mean

swift falcon
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i'm genuinely asking

timber rock
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most new grad postings coming out after now will be 2024 positions

swift falcon
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wait so people apply for jobs a year ahead of time?

outer radish
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💀

timber rock
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yes lol

autumn iris
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i'm applying 6months before

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i graduate in december

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so gunna start applying in june

timber rock
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i started in september, but the season starts earlier

outer radish
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realistically

swift falcon
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but that is for specific grad positions then

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not like "normal company posting job"

foggy basin
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i mean yes

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no

swift falcon
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alr

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i been goin about this a lot differently

foggy basin
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how so

swift falcon
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just browsing linkedin ig

autumn iris
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why not

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worst case its a rejection

swift falcon
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so if you apply to a 2024 posting, does that mean you're not going to start working until 2024?

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even if you're ready to start immediatly?

autumn iris
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idk, if u got laid off already

timber rock
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it depends

autumn iris
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shouldn't u already be spam applying

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why tf would u wait

timber rock
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some companies have set start dates for everyone

autumn iris
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a whole year of doing nothing

timber rock
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some let uy choose

foggy basin
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its been 4 months

autumn iris
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just apply to watevers open

foggy basin
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oh u meant like i was going to wait

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oh i understand

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yeah i mean i am applying

autumn iris
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isnt there a difference between new grad vs entry anyways

foggy basin
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yes and no

autumn iris
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pretty sure some companies specifically want new grads

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entry is like

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1yr+

swift falcon
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According to the Experis Q2 2023 Tech Talent Outlook, 76% of U.S. employers are having difficulty filling open tech roles.
bro just fucking hiring me ffs

foggy basin
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entry/junior still want 2+ and i techncially have 5 months on expierence

outer radish
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for their dog water wordpress site

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that gets 5k views every other month

swift falcon
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yah

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it was rhetorical kinda

foggy basin
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its bc they can. expierenced ppl r getting laid and will work for the same $$

swift falcon
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these cocksuckas need to promote and train ppl within and get new talent in

foggy basin
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all the faang and big tech heads are open to taking pay cuts :/

brave forge
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That’s supposed to be illegal

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They have to pay the same as a US citizen and they can’t just down level them and pay them less

foggy basin
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i dont think thats how it works

brave forge
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H1b aren’t meant to bring down US market wages that’s the whole point of the immigration agency

timber rock
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i mean

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even if they do

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what is anyone gonna do about it

autumn iris
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they can just layoff and tell them its cause of budgeting

timber rock
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u take legal action against ur employer on h1b and you're fired

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goodbye country

autumn iris
fallen fox
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indian consulting firms do that

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WITCH

autumn iris
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noone cares though

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loyalty is a meme

foggy basin
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thats just how big tech works lol, if not that outsource and get the same work for peanuts

autumn iris
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no

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its people who don't have h1bs

timber rock
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ummmm m i am loyal to my ceo and shareholders. i work only to bring value to them and pay for their yacht

autumn iris
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dont u just make a company just take over ur h1b

brave forge
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I don’t think many companies prioritize h1b or we would see more hiring them

autumn iris
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wats even the difference other than green card applying

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?

swift falcon
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how does one become h1b

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what is this mythical thing?

autumn iris
fallen fox
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most h1bs go to WITCH anyway

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:rope:

swift falcon
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i'm not going to move until this says "hired"

timber rock
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witch is awesome

swift falcon
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it's a scam bro

timber rock
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cognizant called me up after i rejected them to interrogate me as to why im not joining

brave forge
swift falcon
brave forge
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who is it for

swift falcon
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local company

brave forge
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ah local gl

swift falcon
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I applied for same position last january

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got rejected

autumn iris
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worry no internship this summer, just grinding interview prep

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i feel like prepping now for a good fulltime is better than a shtty internship

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unless im copium

timber rock
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become god at leetcode but never make it past resume screen cause no itnernship

autumn iris
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i have 1 internship from last summer

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and like

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2yrs worth of research xp

timber rock
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ok nvm

autumn iris
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worry i'm a grad student

brave forge
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i need fall internship

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i need to become a god at AWS and get certified within the next 3 days and apply to all those fall cloud internship postings

autumn iris
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plan is grind the sht out of leetcode, know everything about ML theory, stats/math

brave forge
autumn iris
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and pray i get interviews

autumn iris
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my goal is to be able to solve mediums

fresh mango
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I used to think

autumn iris
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i was told they generally ask me easies/mediums

brave forge
fresh mango
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this research stuff counts to something

autumn iris
brave forge
timber rock
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i gotta actually get good at lc at some point

brave forge
autumn iris
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doing data scientist roles

brave forge
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oh ya you said that

autumn iris
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so im currently watching every neetcode 150, write down lots of notes and understand problems

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then grind out easies/mediums after doing 150 a few times

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yeah

brave forge
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and understand each of the leetcode sub topics

autumn iris
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idk i feel like

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i fked up for internship applying

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i applied really late

fresh mango
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Same though

brave forge
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ya that will do it

fresh mango
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I realized I should've applied like June

autumn iris
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i applied to 500 companies, had 5 finals, and like 10 other calls

fresh mango
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but I started December

autumn iris
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i started late feb

fresh mango
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Had no luck even then 💀

brave forge
autumn iris
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any leetcode

brave forge
autumn iris
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im just doing it cause they ask that sometimes for full time roles

brave forge
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no intern

autumn iris
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they didnt ask me any coding

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literally just theory

brave forge
autumn iris
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or technical questions

fresh mango
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That's insane imo, takes a week for them to draft my rejection email

autumn iris
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i mean i just fked up by applying late

brave forge
autumn iris
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im just gunna grind really hard this summer

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in exchange for no internship

brave forge
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then i just accepted and gave up for summer and went back to grinding

autumn iris
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i had one more company reach out to me on friday

fresh mango
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This grinding lc shit seems to take a toll

autumn iris
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or wat happened was i applied

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1 day later, recruiter emailed me

brave forge
autumn iris
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and she told me to apply on their main website, so i might hear back this week

brave forge
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i do 1 or 2 leetcode, then grind my AWS certification, then work on my project

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so i dont get burned out

fresh mango
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every question I struggle on and click on solutions, my self respect takes a hit 😭😂😂😂

brave forge
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also ya that sucks but u have to learn and get better

fresh mango
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Send motivation to start on project

brave forge
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just try to review after you solve a set of problems

fresh mango
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Yeah lol, that's what I try to do

brave forge
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like if u solve lc 150 and do the 25 arrays problems, when u finish that go back and review all of them

autumn iris
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i dont think leetcode is that bad

brave forge
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same

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it's fun

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sort of

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in a fcked up way

autumn iris
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idk, i'd also rather start doing it now

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then wait for my last semester

fresh mango
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Masochism

brave forge
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im copium grinding so hard

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i need to land new-grad job in june and a fall internship

timber rock
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i don’t like it but i think it’s nice to have a concrete thing that you study to get a job

autumn iris
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if i got replies to internship positions that late, surely i'll get full time interviews right

fresh mango
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What sorta projects you working on though?

autumn iris
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none

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other than research

brave forge
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i am building a networking app that allows you to live video call and chat and draw on a whiteboard, so you can tutor on it. I wanted to add a code editor that you can both use but idk it's hard

fresh mango
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Like a full stack thing, or some wild langchain read your mind using GPT4

brave forge
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im using WebRTC and websockets and react and node.js for that

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im also doing a C++ project in OpenGL to build a model solar system

autumn iris
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i don't think projects will help me

brave forge
#

it's pretty easy tbh im just working on getting some more OpenGL knowledge and then i can continue building it

autumn iris
#

other than just looking up how to code specific models

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but thats not something i;'d put for my resume

brave forge
#

i need to build a cloud app though rly bad for these damn cloud internships for fall

fresh mango
#

slacked off in clg for too long

brave forge
#

whats an ead

autumn iris
#

i'm just gunna pray

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i get interviews though

fresh mango
#

Like a passport but more important

autumn iris
#

cause if i prep now, then i can increase my chances of passing them

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worry already a month in

brave forge
#

Idk much about data

fossil jewel
brave forge
#

Mongodb and Postgres are cool tho

fossil jewel
autumn iris
outer radish
fossil jewel
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hopefully it works out for you Prayge

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also know some stuff about serverless architecture vs monolith @outer radish

outer radish
fossil jewel
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ofc

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gotta help out the peeps

spice mountain
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hey yall, I graduated recently and I was wondering where yall have been applying to get interviews... I mostly apply through linkedin but I havent gotten any traction

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are there any other sites you would recommend ?

ivory stratus
#

I am back

dusty basin
urban gulch
ivory stratus
swift falcon
autumn iris
#

isn't the tech stuff on tiktok dead nowadays

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if anything arent people just making posts on layoffs

tardy geode
#

tiktok is cringe

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chewy sent me the same rejection mail 5 times

outer radish
#

tik tokers that kept posting about doing no work and getting paid 6 figs

#

contributed to this poo market

#

ya'll heard it here

tardy geode
#

ban tiktok forever

outer radish
#

naw dw i'll work for em next year and fix it

tardy geode
#

Day in Teh LiFe oF a SofTwaRe EngIneeR in sF

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6 hours of lunch and breakfast

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2 hours of snacks

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0 hours of work

fallen fox
#

day 2: laid off

jovial latch
#

yea fuck those dipshits that try to convey tech life n stuff through tiktok god damn

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cause we all needed more fucking people trying to enter this market

ivory stratus
#

Bro at this point i just want a job

jovial latch
#

i just want a job so i can escape the entry level oversaturation, but well thats never gonna happen

ivory stratus
#

Im in an internship until Aug 1 then idk

brave forge
#

wtf even mr beast is unemployed and searching for 2024 jobs we are all screwed

ivory stratus
#

It's weird cause we're hired through University of Hawaii but working at HA, it's supposed to be a talent pipeline. The VP of IT said that our program is part of the new hires this hear i just dont know for sure if we'll have a job after

brave forge
#

hawaii skull4k

ivory stratus
#

So im just gonna start applying to new stuff

ivory stratus
#

Im just thankful i got experience

#

Only thing i had on my resume was 2nd place in a hackathon

jovial latch
#

experience is no guarantee of anything, heh, cause ive been fucked

#

its all just rng bs

ivory stratus
#

Unfortunately same with being a veteran

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Only reason i got microsoft and amazon finals was cause of veteran but every other company didnt care lol

#

Yeah but not a lot of em for tech

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Most is like. Corporate stuff or salesforce

#

Yeah i got to final for both. But then they canceled interviews for all new grads lmao

#

It's for non traditional though and i have a degree

jovial latch
#

yea i doubt veteran pipelines survived cancellations and layoff bs lol

outer radish
#

imma flip

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im all in support of getting people a better opportunity for their future, but to sell them the lie that a certification alone will guarantee you a job is like selling linkedin snake oil

#

that shit cheeses the life out of me

jovial latch
#

just typical silicon valley tech culture bs tbh

#

this industry is layered with crap

#

im so tired

brave forge
#

Sure it worked sometimes for some people, who got in and grew experience. But for most, they either dont grind hard enough to get to that point or the market is so bad no one would be interested in them

jovial latch
#

full stack = i wrote hello world in html

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i mean its never ever actually full stack shit

brave forge
#

Ya full stack today would be building a react app with data mangment like hooks or redux, database in postgresql or mongodb, backend in nodejs that actually does something useful, docker container and deployed on cloud like aws

jovial latch
#

but yea thats about what full stack would be

#

microservices

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go brrr

dusky tapir
obsidian crater
#

fax

brave forge
#

i need aws cert in 3 days

jovial latch
brave forge
#

im grinding so hard for it rn

obsidian crater
#

AWS slaves

brave forge
#

also @lunar sonnet what do u think about these jobs:
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3607935258/?alternateChannel=search&refId=Zw4aCRI%2Fbr2s11bGxp9eJQ%3D%3D&trackingId=m0sZDBSLN76VtnEpjDpFMA%3D%3D
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3602443505/?alternateChannel=search&refId=%2BTaZAIRe2WQ6Ep500%2BsR%2BA%3D%3D&trackingId=9ZKpaVOx2wYOgDBbaYH7fg%3D%3D
what skills with cloud do u think i should target? I was planning on going through building a few projects with AWS using Lamba and Gateway and dynamoDB by following this udemy guide
https://www.udemy.com/course/aws-lambda-serverless-architecture/
and go over kubernetes with this
https://www.udemy.com/course/learn-kubernetes/learn/lecture/9703196#overview
and then just finish up my AWS cloud cert im already like half way through the amazon free course for it

jovial latch
brave forge
obsidian crater
#

yes

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I will

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I got finals this week mane

brave forge
#

i dont have finals at my uni thank god i dont give a crap about uni anymore, i just submit my work first day of the new week and ignore it till the next weeks assignment come out

#

idk is the aws cloud practitioner cert even that useful? there's a bunch of higher level ones then that you need to get also

#

im getting it rn just to pass interviews. the knowledge is very useful for that company trivia

obsidian crater
#

lmao really

brave forge
#

Prepare for your next cloud Engineer job interview with popular and technical cloud Engineer interview questions and answers to land a top gig as a cloud engineer.

brave forge
#

im trying to knock it out in 2 more days and take exam and then apply for intern cloud jobs

#

there's so many fall intern cloud jobs coming out

outer radish
brave forge
#

nobody applying cause they dont like cloud

outer radish
#

they dont realize that a lot of those successful bootcampers had like a mf math degree or physics degree or some shit

#

and had that grind in them

obsidian crater
outer radish
#

or previous technical knowledge

obsidian crater
#

if I can finish it in a weekend

#

xd

brave forge
#

sick ill try

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everyone is always shitting on aws cert lol

#

that's good though it keeps the jobs for the ppl that actually grind it

#

ok these are really easy

#

im doing it from this guys link with 6 exams

fossil jewel
#

if you have dev exp (just basics from school even) this should be easy enough to pass

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i crammed this in 1-2 days and passed the cloud exam (same one you're practicing)

brave forge
#

oh thank you ill check it out

fossil jewel
#

i just did it bc i had to fill the quota in my team

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still a nice to have since i do use cloud

obsidian crater
#

pog

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ty gata

fossil jewel
#

uw 1st republic

obsidian crater
#

rip first republic

fossil jewel
obsidian crater
#

F

autumn iris
#

went back and read the job description

#

that job the recruiter got back to me on friday

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$15/hr for inperson intern

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in an expensive af area

brave forge
#

that's data for u

#

they expect you to eat the data for food

#

and sleep in the server room while the data gets processed

normal palm
#

well boys, the search resumes

#

at the worst fuckin time ever

shut void
#

I graduate in December. Is it too early to start applying now?

brave forge
#

yes

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apply next month

shut void
brave forge
shut void
brave forge
#

leetcode, aws certs, projects, summer internship, maybe fall internship if i land it, learn a bunch of tech stacks for multiple catered resumes to certain areas so i can mass apply to places for any job

brave forge
#

because 2024 is bleakekw copedealer 5925peperain

#

and mayb they will hire a lot of new-grads like last year

#

but if they dont hire a ton of new grads they are going to be #1 shit company and i will never support capitalone again

pastel bane
#

Would you think frontend engineers are harder to find a job?

shut void
#

I don’t really have any company in particular I’m looking for. I just want to see what opportunities there are. Any certs you guys think I should go for in general?

brave forge
#

aws

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azure also

#

that's about the extent of certifications

pastel bane
#

is aws hard?

autumn iris
brave forge
#

leetcodes big but not everything. you can't leetcode if u dont get interviews

autumn iris
autumn iris
brave forge
#

you need like a lot of interviews so u can fail a ton and still get by in a few and also improve rapidly with your interviewing skills

autumn iris
#

thats why we start 8months earlier

shut void
#

What are you doing to get a lot of interviews?

autumn iris
#

i graduate in december

#

apply more?

brave forge
#

i need to get a bot that aggregates all job postings to my email every 6 hours somehow

autumn iris
#

also idk, surely school name will carry me right

brave forge
#

i have a 3.75 gpa maybe 3.8 by the time i graduate in december rope

autumn iris
#

my gpa also 3.75

brave forge
#

like i said man we are the same ppl

frank wedge
#

My gpa was a 3.8

autumn iris
#

i dont need citizenship too

frank wedge
autumn iris
#

i'm more worried about passing interviews

#

and not being sht

brave forge
#

just interview so much u stop caring

autumn iris
#

just employ me ASlife i need gacha money

brave forge
#

i never did research, just 2 internships. 1st one was 9 months, 2nd is 3 months, maybe 3rd if i land fall Peepo_Pray

shut void
autumn iris
#

i'm just grinding 12hrs/day this summer for preppin

brave forge
#

aws certs, a few projects, a b.s in computer science. i guess that's all ill have going into new-grad

autumn iris
#

i dont think a shtty internship was worth it

#

if it's in person, then i was defo not going to prep

autumn iris
#

library buff

brave forge
autumn iris
#

wake up at 7, go to library

#

and do anything

brave forge
#

i sit in my room all day

autumn iris
#

i'm about to pick up japanese food

#

then break and watch more neetcode videos back home

tardy geode
brave forge
#

u should start on lc 150 with me

#

i just finished another module on aws so i think im going to take a break on it

#

go back to lc

#

got to finish up arrays im so close. actually not good im still on arrays, but they put in like 25 problems on it it's a ton

jovial latch
#

theres another reason to get a job

#

so i dont have to touch anymore god damn stupid ass leetcode crap

west egret
#

until you search for another job

brave forge
#

ya im just going to keep leetcoding when i get a new-grad job

#

probably whatever new-grad job i get is not going to pay enough to be worth staying for. Just get experience and job hop as soon as i can get somewhere better

jovial latch
#

what do they ask leetcode past the entry level bs

timber rock
#

im going for big boy trading firms after like a year

#

gonna get good at leetcode (maybe)

jovial latch
#

honestly, true
i suppose ill never escape leetcode

timber rock
#

for seniors and mid

#

compared to ng at least

jovial latch
#

ah well im sure ill have plenty of time to do leetcode if i get this fully on-site job, god the anxiety is killing me

brave forge
#

why would u want full on site

#

are u a masochinist?

jovial latch
#

i dont

brave forge
#

who does full onsite in 2023 and not even hybrid that would an instant red flag

timber rock
#

get offer at mediocre firm -> get put on garden leave -> spend those free months sweating lc and get something better that’s my 2025 plan 😈

brave forge
#

ya exactly

#

i just need time to get good at lc

#

if u grind for 1 year and market recovers and you have 1 yoe it'll be a lot easier to get into big-tech

jovial latch
#

also like

#

do i have a choice

brave forge
#

idk do u

jovial latch
#

no LMAO

west egret
#

Full in office isn’t necessarily a red flag

#

More like a sign that the company is traditional

#

Red flag is when they want you to purchase office supplies and they say they’ll transfer you the money

jovial latch
#

classic

west egret
#

Full in office is just an inconvenience depending your view on remote vs office

jovial latch
#

always an inconveninance

#

i interned fully in office before covid, efficiency was crap

west egret
#

I mean I prefer in office for NG tbh

#

I liked interning in office

jovial latch
#

i prefered being able to sleep

west egret
#

Granted my team invited me to drink with them on the first day KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

#

And I’d occasionally take slightly long breaks in a game / pool room

jovial latch
#

that just sounds like working from home but with extra steps

west egret
#

Ehh after online classes

#

Having human interaction was nice

hoary fern
jovial latch
#

nah interviews were remote

#

but like the job is fully in person they told me as much

hoary fern
jovial latch
#

this other company im speaking with wanted me to come on-site for an interview and their position is fully on-site though

#

ll

#

lol

#

thank fuck im based in the nyc area

hoary fern
#

id think its wack if they expect you to come in person for interviews

#

for like 5 interview rounds

#

that would be fucked

jovial latch
#

thank god for public transit

#

also completely unrelated note, fuck the govt

brave forge
brave forge
#

and have to get an apartment nearby in an expensive area

#

i just want a hybrid job i can save up money at

autumn iris
#

worryOhno just employ me

#

80k/yr pls

west egret
#

Yeah the one thing I’m in favor of being full remote is interviews for sure

brave forge
#

80k is poverty 🤮

#

100k+ on this server only

hoary fern
jovial latch
foggy basin
#

oh no lol

autumn iris
#

i'd be living so well with 100k in south

brave forge
hoary fern
#

sounds like hell

west egret
#

Just saves everyone time. Especially when interviews are are basically both parties playing a game of pretending to be this perfect entity for the position.

foggy basin
brave forge
#

flying out would be so fun for me

#

it would be a break from regular grinding

#

get to go have fun and interview

#

then come back and grind

#

only good if u are unemployed and out of uni

hoary fern
west egret
brave forge
#

like i am basically, just doing my last classes online

sonic coral
foggy basin
hoary fern
#

ofc the elon companies

brave forge
#

elon just said he wants to vet every hire they do

west egret
foggy basin
hoary fern
brave forge
# west egret 80k > unemployed

true but it just feels like rope my philosophy is grind hard and get the best offer i can. If i have to grind hard and get a low offer it's like...why now im just back to grinding to get a better job while i hold down a temp job to afford stuff

west egret
brave forge
#

i can barely make it over fall i even need to land a fall internship to just make more income and the experience is just a side benefit

foggy basin
#

move back home after college >>

brave forge
#

cant though unfortunately, my parents dont live in the USA

west egret
#

But yeah if you have the savings, life is too short to spend it at a job that you hate

hoary fern
autumn iris
#

i meant

#

80k in south

brave forge
#

80k in mid west is solid

timber rock
timber rock
#

Pffff

west egret
#

You’re comfortable with 80k in Midwest

hoary fern
autumn iris
#

80k-100k in florida thats not miami/tampa/orlando

brave forge
#

but also rope outcome like if u land 80k that's probably a shitty mid-tier company no name place

autumn iris
#

is so good

timber rock
#

can’t live on less than 300k tbh

west egret
#

Might not be ideal location depending on your interests but you’ll have a comfortable housing and food

foggy basin
#

and bumblefuck driving is easier

autumn iris
#

just stay there for a few yrs then get a comfy remote position

#

at a big company

jovial latch
#

fuck this crap

brave forge
#

that's not entirely the point tho, usually CS jobs scale in pay. If u get a low pay company it's probably bad place and u wont get much resume prestige. high pay companies are way better in benefits and prestige and tech you work on.

hoary fern
foggy basin
#

oh my bad

brave forge
#

if u get a job that does like ASP .NET that's a decade old and pays you 80k, it's not really an enviable job

#

sure u make 80k

#

but it's shit and u get no experience that's useful

west egret
#

Driving is ass anyways

#

Wish good public transport was more ubiquitous in the US

#

I think ppl who are unemployed don’t give af about prestige

#

They just want to afford rent and be able to eat

timber rock
#

why does this server hate .net lol

obsidian crater
#

Cause it's boomer

timber rock
#

that’s like the 3rd time in the last week or so that I’ve seen ppl shit on .net

obsidian crater
#

Not legacy

foggy basin
#

Software Engineer (Entry Level ) , FULL-TIME, Salary $100K - $130K a year & minimum 2 years work experience.
WHY CALL IT ENTRY LEVEL

obsidian crater
#

Govt uses it

#

Ya

brave forge
obsidian crater
#

Cobol

foggy basin
#

wdym

west egret
#

Isn’t C# supposed to be more well liked than Java at least?

timber rock
#

hm yeah I’ve never ever thought of .net as legacy lol

#

c# is straight up Java but better

obsidian crater
#

It is

foggy basin
#

hmm ok

hoary fern
obsidian crater
#

Entry level is 3 years nowadays

west egret
#

Fair

hoary fern
#

i got 3+ of that

obsidian crater
#

Haha

timber rock
#

does high school count 🥺

west egret
#

I think we’d need to have professors that could actually teach first

timber rock
#

i got 8 years in that case

hoary fern
timber rock
#

No

west egret
#

I literally could have learned everything from uni through google searches

timber rock
#

We didn’t even have a cs teacher we had to teach ourselves the curriculum lol

hoary fern
obsidian crater
#

Azure is huge with feds

west egret
timber rock
#

.net is one of the most in demand techs in the uk

obsidian crater
#

Idk why Feds like azure so much

west egret
timber rock
#

like half of the jobs on linkedin are c# lol

hoary fern
obsidian crater
#

UK is small init

west egret
foggy basin
#

side question, do u think like typically do LC hard. i spend way too long trying to figure them out and it ends up frustrating me out of the grind

jovial latch
#

i guarantee you the majority of mid level engineers cant do lc hards

hoary fern
timber rock
#

we smol

foggy basin
#

im working on the reverse k nodes in linked list and i fucking hate it

west egret
#

LC style interviews are just putting on a performance

jovial latch
#

lc performance is not indicative of how you would do at an actual job

#

it simply tells you how good you are at doing lc problems

hoary fern
#

when do the put up the 2024 grad channel up

foggy basin
#

daily for what? its in my grok list

jovial latch
#

because companies need some arbitary measure to deal with entry level oversaturation

west egret
west egret
#

Because everyone has these slightly embellished stories for situations they may or may not have encountered

foggy basin
# west egret Daily problem on LC site
LeetCode

Can you solve this real interview question? Reverse Nodes in k-Group - Given the head of a linked list, reverse the nodes of the list k at a time, and return the modified list.

k is a positive integer and is less than or equal to the length of the linked list. If the number of nodes is not a multiple of k then left-out nodes, in the end, should...

#

this one made me want to off meself

timber rock
jovial latch
#

the interviews i usually like are the ones they ask technical concepts and ask about the shit you have on your resume

autumn iris
#

does swe really need to do lc hards

west egret
#

I learned that before prog 1

jovial latch
autumn iris
foggy basin
timber rock
jovial latch
west egret
hoary fern
#

quick question but have any of u guys did datadog process for ng

foggy basin
#

datadog has new grad?

hoary fern
foggy basin
#

yeah ik thats why it was so pathetic

jovial latch
#

must suck having to dip your toes back into entry level question bs

#

after you know, having actualy done shit

hoary fern
#

oh shit did u have to move for that job

jovial latch
#

yikes

#

what you think i just retained the 4 pillars of oop in my head lmao

#

only reason i do is because of interviews

timber rock
#

Oop the type of thing I learned once in 1st year then never had to touch for the rest of the degree then relearn the past few months lol

obsidian crater
#

OOP is common interview topic lol

#

I got asked about waterfall and agile too once

jovial latch
#

difference between writing literal oop code and then having to explicitly define the 4 pillars

#

but eh

#

oop is an easy topic so whatever

timber rock
#

and i oop

obsidian crater
#

I only write functional programming in haskell

#

OOP is a mistake

timber rock
#

haskell was a mistake

jovial latch
#

The only thing that I got going is I am getting responses from my applications

#

So my resume works

west egret
brave forge
#

it should be ez but

hoary fern
rapid bison
#

When did NG jobs peak for 2023?

brave forge
#

im sort of stuck i watched neetcode

jovial latch
brave forge
#

before layoffs

rapid bison
#

Which month I mean

brave forge
#

after 2023 hit and layoffs came in it became bad

rapid bison
#

Just to get an idea for 2024

hoary fern
#

just do this

jovial latch
#

Christ

brave forge
#

2024 market in one image

jovial latch
#

Man is literally targeting those LinkedIn lunatics that are like "today I saw a dog on the side of the road and adopted it, the dog was my boss"

foggy basin
#

@jovial latch sent u dm

west egret
#

so were the original Pokemon games iirc

brave forge
#

Hmm I hope I don’t get burnt out grinding too hard I’m already starting to feel my productivity go down

#

Maybe tomorrow I can get more done just need to get up in the right mindset

queen swallow
pure mauve
#

Prayers out to my amazon brothers and sisters prayge

fallen fox
#

2024 ng loop is companies spitting out more ngs into the market

#

feelsgoodman

outer radish
#

my man needs to get a side job and grind leetcode instead of this foolery

hoary fern
prisma flax
#

that's a brilliant idea, I will go bay area and setup a stall and do the same

#

atleast than I would get better opportunities

hoary fern
#

actually

hoary fern
outer radish
#

this man needs to CONTINUE this grindery**

final ore
winged jay
#

is solving 1000 leetcode questions enough for this job market ?

final ore
hoary fern
#

if u solve the entire question bank maybe leetcode will hire u

dusky tapir
#

Is sillcon valley a good tv show?

obsidian crater
#

no

dusky tapir
obsidian crater
#

Breaking Bad

dusky tapir
#

I finished that shit 10 yrs ago man

obsidian crater
#

cyberpunk edgerunners

dusky tapir
#

My right hand is an edgerunner

obsidian crater
#

lol

fresh mango
jovial latch
fresh mango
#

Try Fargo

#

if you like Barry @jovial latch

jovial latch
#

ive seen the first 3 seasons

fresh mango
#

Fargo season 1 is too good

jovial latch
#

i agree with most of this except for GOT and the mandalorian

fresh mango
#

modern fam

jovial latch
#

nah ive read the books

#

so i have strong opinions

fresh mango
#

opinion on rings of power? 👀

jovial latch
#

dunno

jovial latch
# jovial latch so i have *strong opinions*

to keep it brief though, mainstream opinion on GOT is that season 8 bad
anyone whos read the books will tell you shit started to deviate and deteroriate at the end of season 4

#

this is when they started to ignore the 4th and 5th book and basically just do their own dumb shit because grrm is fucking complicated

#

no lol, things become really inconsistent and dont make any sense