#2023_grads
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I’m glad techie was banned. He made me feel discriminated against and unsafe
I’m glad techie was banned. He made me feel discriminated against and unsafe
I’m glad techie was banned. He made me feel discriminated against and unsafe
We need Yogi unbanned though, at least he works at Google
It's a great loss for this Discord banning a Googler, we all need referrals
i don’t think i’ve ever seen yogi talk about anything other than his tc
Trust me, it was racist/sexist


He posted good advice though on negotiating
Speak for urself bro

Yogi isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a SWE with such high TC as an L3? Yogi puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a SWE with his skill and passion for the game again. Interviewers break your hopes and dreams. Tech companies break their promises. Yogi breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
Yogi isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a SWE with such high TC as an L3? Yogi puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a SWE with his skill and passion for the game again. Interviewers break your hopes and dreams. Tech companies break their promises. Yogi breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

Yogi isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a SWE with such high TC as an L3? Yogi puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a SWE with his skill and passion for the game again. Interviewers break your hopes and dreams. Tech companies break their promises. Yogi breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.
I am absolutely lost
off topic, but are there any alternatives to glassdoor for company/position reviews?
@lunar sonnet
@pulsar mural
Blind is the best for this
for visa code signal i got 1,2,4 and WAS so close to 3
but ran out of time :/
does anyone have experience with visa new grad process
@pulsar mural
fuk databricks?
I hate places that make you do OAs to apply, not to go through the interview process, but to just apply and get auto rejected 24 hours later
and it's fucking codesignal too which I hate the most out of all OA sites
So you hate Block

Block, Ramp, and was applying to the square position so add them to the list
tbh I'm debating not even finishing this app bc it's stupid how companies wanna do that
Square is Block
oh, well I doubly hate them
They better pay really good if that's the case
they are a san fran comapny and remote so that should say MINIMUM $100k
bc if you do all of that and they only offer you 70k, I would be livid
They pay well.
Zone A: USD $125,000
Zone B: USD $118,800
Zone C: USD $112,500
Zone D: USD $106,300
ok $125k for a new grad role is nice
still annoyed by how long that interview length and needing to do an OA before even getting your app reviewed is stupid
TikTok also does something similar to where everytime I've applied with for their new grad roles, they make you do a hackerrank assessment before your resume gets reviewed
It's annoying, but did you see how many applicants that block app got?
no
but seeing how you brought it up, it's probably a lot
where do you even see how many people applied?
shiiiit that does sound good
also doesn't seem bad, they look like they work with online payment systems?
I have a thing where as long as I'm not working for a defense company, I don't really care what the company does
oh so you don't need to do it before they review your resume
tbh the job is backend, but I'm hoping they might try and put me in the mobile/frontend teams
oh so like tiktok where after you apply for X amount of days they'll email you saying to do the OA
I have some backend experience but I'm definitely stronger in those fields
tbh those are the roles I ideally want but I will take anything
are you planing on doing this
TS* and I know Java
ok but if they give me a Java template, it's not game over for me
No, getting even one offer is hard
Even if I got two, I'd still accept just one, I can learn better and then job hop after a year
i believee in you 
yeah id get burnt out so fast
Wait some people don't want to do bwckendv
backend >>
I've been told to do LC in less wordy languages in order to save time writing the code, so do something like python
yea my first ever OA I did in Java and I timed out bc Idk that
I got fucked in bum
That might be from the idea how a lot of bootcamps from what I see only teach people js and how to make React apps
JavaScript is ass
Idk for my uni, all data structure and algo classes and low level coding classes are taught in C/Java
Interesting, I didn't know that JavaScript frameworks were so oversaturated because of boot camps and tutorials
Yea that I'm not surprised bc in my case we were forced to learn it for a required core class you are supposed to take your junior/senior year and a good amount of SD projects are web and mobile apps so people still use it so it's most fresh in their minds unless they love coding in a particular language or internship experience with a different language
well also isn't the issue of JS the compiler with node.js, bc I remember hearing people to make their own version of node that fixes the issues of node
I philosophically just don't like js
I like it and know it has it's issues, but every language has it's issues
eh my senior design project (meant for and put on both app stores) in js with my group and it wasn't bad
the most annoying part I remember getting annoyed over was when it came to hosting the backend on Azure
has anyone interviewed with veeva recently ?
is it hard
are you ex-zon?


I wanna be a wage slavey 

see i am throwing green paper at you
that's how politicians become millionaires
ratata
did a screen in beginning of April




Same bestie!
Inject it into my veins!
I love being micro-managed. Said no one ever
has anyone interviewed for plaid for new grad here
hey, at least the requirements are simple and they're up front about everything
better than all the cookie cutter word salad shits you get out in the wild
When should I start applying for 2024 new grad stuff
is the github list repo up yet
Nah
apparently June will be when amazon and capital one will come out, based on how they did new-grad last year it dropped in June
it actually sucks im not ready for
but they are my 2024 dream company i got to double time grind
I heard from senior people inside the company that it will be around December for amazon
wtf
delaying new grad. I guess they can be a backup company


is there a guide somewhere on all this lingo and shit
i been in this server for like a month and still have no idea what is actually going on with this and the timelines for positions
basically 2024 is going to be the worst year for new-grads in history and the companies will be going crazy trying weird new tactics for hiring to make new-grad life even worse just because they have so much demand for their probably even fewer positions then last year they are hiring for. Also June might see some big companies drop new-grad 2024 positions, but most will come out in July or August
Hunger games, yo! It's gonna be hell of a jungle
I think for tech it’s gonna be worse
Thousands of laid off industry people competing with 2023 and 2024 fresh grads
i don’t understand how 2024 will be worse than 2023
my friends graduating in august and december pitying on me and feeling safe for themselved

how foolish of em
if the layoffs stop eventually teams will get budgets to hire
"markets gonna be better in dec" .... ass statement imo
companies are doing mini layoffs and that too many aren't aware of silent layoffs happening
and why does that mean 2024 will be worse
coz many laidoff peeps are on severance and severance means legally they are employed
the demand will be higher because many newgrads will carry over to next year but that doesn’t mean the supply of jobs will be less
also 2023 people who have just taken something to stop unemployment would be competing too
Lmfao bold of you to assume they’re gonna stop
Msft literally had a fresh round like a month ago
no wonder amazon would do more layoffs
all layoffs stop eventually otherwise the company goes bankrupt
Lol you really don’t realize the sheer amount of overhiring these big tech companies did
Plaid is hiring?
dude meta blew up like 2x in the past year
10k applicants for 1 position
i do and they’re compensating for it right now, but big tech is not everything not everyone overhired
smh its as good as not hiring
Laid off big tech people are flooding the market
yeah but I have special circumstances around that
it's over bro
Rip man
Other professions are never like how you imagine
People who graduated in 2022 and 2023 that didn't find a job are competing with people that will graduate I'm 2024
if you guys really cared about the market you would switch career to reduce competition in tech

better than unemployment lol
tech is oversaturated now so most of us gonna be unemployed
Loool I feel it has reached its peak
People are saying there's gonna be demand for EE for quantum computing
I would say mid and senior level there are tons of opportunities
Companies now call 3 years of exp junior
So idk lol
also if you can't get any entry level jobs
you can't even really become senior
I mean is this from a few cherry picked postings or are the majority of entry level postings asking for 3 years experience
I'd say like 90% of entry level or "Jr" positions ask for 1-3
There are very few postings that literally mention new grad or 0 experience
It’s also the end of 2023 season
Internships counts
So there would be less NG positions in general….
new grads don’t usually go for straight up junior positions
I always saw requirements on postings as a wishlist
it’s very normal for junior positions to ask for at least 1 yoe
Unless it’s about whether you qualify as a NG, security clearance, etc it doesn’t matter
kinda oversaturated tbh
I don't think I'm ever getting a job tbh
its definitely harder for intl
Next to nothing
rip
I mean I don't literally mean pharmacist
But maybe like an accountant or something
Some non tech career
accounting is aight
wtf
gonna depend where tho
also tax season is like 80hr weeks
🤷♂️ IBs work 80-90 hours too
I mean you're taking the pharmacist thing too literally
this is 1000% so true
I'm saying if I had known I would struggle so much to get a tech job
I'd probably have picked a different major
dude spring 2021 was peak hiring
like people didn't have 2 hands enough for holding offers
tech is like the cushiest field ever
I know someone who got laid off from zon back in January who still hasn’t got anything and might have to leave the US 
for sure but it’ll let up soon (ish)
Yeah but every fields has their downturns
Accounting teams will be dramatically reduced tho
Like you’ll just have one head accountant using chatgpt or whatever
maybe
my brother does accounting
C++ learning curve is unimaginable
Intls kinda fucked cause all the companies that froze are the same ones who sponsor
Both my sister and cousin transitioned out of their careers as accountants
Lots of small and med companies still hiring
I wrote 3 yrs of cpp but I barely regard myself as mastering it
any ropers in chat
Anecdotal dude
I feel like rich people accountants will always exist too to find tax loopholes for the ultra wealthy
Also not good to make blanket statements about entire professions
They have the money to spend on a personal accountant and prob won’t fuck with ai
See the difference between accounting and CS is
yeah the CS major supremacy lmao
All the accounting grads I know got jobs
None of the CS grads I know got jobs this year
You think some old money billionaire gonna trust a bot to launder his money 
people w ead starting next month, what y’all doing to get interviews? Asking for a friend, this cold applying only get me waiting for some miracle e-mail. 
like with the writers strike im seeing ppl happy for the writers getting kicked off in favor in chatgpt
I mean go into a group of physicians and wonder what they’ll think about your level of knowledge on medicine lol

cold emailing ain't helping 
tbh if I wasn't intl I'd be fine
I'd go work for lockheed or something
being intl = rope
What’s fucked about the writers strike is like they aren’t even opposed to chatgpt they just want to be fairly compensated if an ai modifies an existing human script
citizens kinda struggling too but not as hard as us
get a security clearance
But Hollywood gonna be Hollywood and will be as greedy as possible
andruil boutta pick u up
they will try and them shows gonna be ass
Bro needs top secret clearance for janitor position
like we really like destroying our humanity damn
Profit line must go up
tbh we need to cull half the earth

I mean cashiers are already being replaced with kiosks
LMAO
I actively go to the self checkout because it’s just faster
bruh complaining

Lmfao OF girls learning about supply and demand in real time
that's coz mainstream PStars are hopping on OF
to making monies
like shit. ton
like they leaving Phub and shit for OF
2+ yoe for entry level
you mean MILF?
everything is fucked up
at some point tho, would it be so easy to discern real vs fake
yeah honestly deep fakes
i cant think of a good use for them
everything is a fake at this
anyone here been interviewed for cloud or mobile positions know what questions they usually ask outside of LC
completely depends on the company as always
all i have experience with for those roles is expedia and they just ask lc for mobile dev
two separate teams
cloud can ask about concepts like load balancing, scalability, containers(docker, k8s) and stuff like that
I’ve seen you here a lot, if you don’t mind me asking. How long do you have until you can’t stay in the US?
ah true, you have any resources for this kinda stuff
worked with kube, terrafrom and helm before but not sure if i know enough to get grilled on
wtf are ppl even applying to rn
like technically 2023 szn is over and 2024 started right
Databricks. They have enough headcount for all of us. 
bro how is 2023 over
new grad szn no?
i'm genuinely asking
most new grad postings coming out after now will be 2024 positions
💀
yes lol
i'm applying 6months before
i graduate in december
so gunna start applying in june
i started in september, but the season starts earlier
realistically
how so
just browsing linkedin ig
so if you apply to a 2024 posting, does that mean you're not going to start working until 2024?
even if you're ready to start immediatly?
idk, if u got laid off already
it depends
some companies have set start dates for everyone
a whole year of doing nothing
some let uy choose
its been 4 months
isnt there a difference between new grad vs entry anyways
yes and no
According to the Experis Q2 2023 Tech Talent Outlook, 76% of U.S. employers are having difficulty filling open tech roles.
bro just fucking hiring me ffs
entry/junior still want 2+ and i techncially have 5 months on expierence
most of these mfs want like 5 years of experience
for their dog water wordpress site
that gets 5k views every other month
its bc they can. expierenced ppl r getting laid and will work for the same $$
these cocksuckas need to promote and train ppl within and get new talent in
all the faang and big tech heads are open to taking pay cuts :/
That’s supposed to be illegal
They have to pay the same as a US citizen and they can’t just down level them and pay them less
i dont think thats how it works
H1b aren’t meant to bring down US market wages that’s the whole point of the immigration agency
they can just layoff and tell them its cause of budgeting

thats just how big tech works lol, if not that outsource and get the same work for peanuts
ummmm m i am loyal to my ceo and shareholders. i work only to bring value to them and pay for their yacht
dont u just make a company just take over ur h1b
I don’t think many companies prioritize h1b or we would see more hiring them

i'm not going to move until this says "hired"
witch is awesome
it's a scam bro
cognizant called me up after i rejected them to interrogate me as to why im not joining
what if it says rejected
idk but i'm gonna die probably
who is it for
local company
ah local gl
no internship this summer, just grinding interview prep
i feel like prepping now for a good fulltime is better than a shtty internship

unless im 
ok nvm
i'm a grad student
i need fall internship
i need to become a god at AWS and get certified within the next 3 days and apply to all those fall cloud internship postings
plan is grind the sht out of leetcode, know everything about ML theory, stats/math
how much leetcode do you bench press?
and pray i get interviews
not enough

my goal is to be able to solve mediums
i was told they generally ask me easies/mediums
im doing 4 or 5 per day now, moving through leetcode 150
this research stuff counts to something
i'm doing neetcode 150 videos
they used to, but 2024 is crazy so now they ask multiple hards in < 90 mins
i gotta actually get good at lc at some point
im not swe

doing data scientist roles
oh ya you said that
so im currently watching every neetcode 150, write down lots of notes and understand problems
then grind out easies/mediums after doing 150 a few times
yeah
solid, make sure you do it in order and solve the sets
and understand each of the leetcode sub topics
it does
idk i feel like
i fked up for internship applying
i applied really late
Same though
ya that will do it
I realized I should've applied like June
i applied to 500 companies, had 5 finals, and like 10 other calls
but I started December
Had no luck even then 💀
ok that's just u did u fail the leetcode assessments?
i wasnt asked
any leetcode
i started december also, got a job in like 1 week after applying LOL
im just doing it cause they ask that sometimes for full time roles
no intern

or technical questions
That's insane imo, takes a week for them to draft my rejection email
i mean i just fked up by applying late
ya they did a phone interview and then a 1 hr interview with director of SWE's and team lead and then they gave me offer 2 days later
then i just accepted and gave up for summer and went back to grinding
This grinding lc shit seems to take a toll
it does you need to switch topics
and she told me to apply on their main website, so i might hear back this week
i do 1 or 2 leetcode, then grind my AWS certification, then work on my project
so i dont get burned out
every question I struggle on and click on solutions, my self respect takes a hit 😭😂😂😂
also ya that sucks but u have to learn and get better
Send motivation to start on project
just try to review after you solve a set of problems
Yeah lol, that's what I try to do
like if u solve lc 150 and do the 25 arrays problems, when u finish that go back and review all of them
i dont think leetcode is that bad
Masochism
i don’t like it but i think it’s nice to have a concrete thing that you study to get a job
if i got replies to internship positions that late, surely i'll get full time interviews right

What sorta projects you working on though?
i am building a networking app that allows you to live video call and chat and draw on a whiteboard, so you can tutor on it. I wanted to add a code editor that you can both use but idk it's hard
Like a full stack thing, or some wild langchain read your mind using GPT4
im using WebRTC and websockets and react and node.js for that
im also doing a C++ project in OpenGL to build a model solar system
i don't think projects will help me
it's pretty easy tbh im just working on getting some more OpenGL knowledge and then i can continue building it
other than just looking up how to code specific models
but thats not something i;'d put for my resume
i need to build a cloud app though rly bad for these damn cloud internships for fall
I think it's too late for me to grind projects before my ead appears
slacked off in clg for too long
whats an ead
flashy paper allow work for $$ else deport
Like a passport but more important
cause if i prep now, then i can increase my chances of passing them
already a month in
Idk much about data
nice cheat sheet i used to cram for practioner exam
Mongodb and Postgres are cool tho
this is obviously more directed towards AWS, but the other providers have similar concepts

hmm you think its worth going through a distributed systems type lecture then tying that in with this as well?
it can help, i dont think you need to go very deep, but distributed systems is such a big part of cloud imo
hopefully it works out for you 
also know some stuff about serverless architecture vs monolith @outer radish
gotcha, and thanks! preciate the resources and the direction to check out
hey yall, I graduated recently and I was wondering where yall have been applying to get interviews... I mostly apply through linkedin but I havent gotten any traction
are there any other sites you would recommend ?
I am back
please leave again
I heard this is happening in Canada now
But
this is why we can’t have nice things
isn't the tech stuff on tiktok dead nowadays
if anything arent people just making posts on layoffs

tik tokers that kept posting about doing no work and getting paid 6 figs
contributed to this poo market
ya'll heard it here
ban tiktok forever
naw dw i'll work for em next year and fix it
Day in Teh LiFe oF a SofTwaRe EngIneeR in sF

6 hours of lunch and breakfast
2 hours of snacks
0 hours of work

yea fuck those dipshits that try to convey tech life n stuff through tiktok god damn
cause we all needed more fucking people trying to enter this market
Bro at this point i just want a job
i just want a job so i can escape the entry level oversaturation, but well thats never gonna happen
Im in an internship until Aug 1 then idk
wtf even mr beast is unemployed and searching for 2024 jobs we are all screwed
It's weird cause we're hired through University of Hawaii but working at HA, it's supposed to be a talent pipeline. The VP of IT said that our program is part of the new hires this hear i just dont know for sure if we'll have a job after
hawaii 
So im just gonna start applying to new stuff
bro

It's so over
Im just thankful i got experience
Only thing i had on my resume was 2nd place in a hackathon
experience is no guarantee of anything, heh, cause ive been fucked
its all just rng bs
Unfortunately same with being a veteran
Only reason i got microsoft and amazon finals was cause of veteran but every other company didnt care lol
Yeah but not a lot of em for tech
Most is like. Corporate stuff or salesforce
Yeah i got to final for both. But then they canceled interviews for all new grads lmao
It's for non traditional though and i have a degree
yea i doubt veteran pipelines survived cancellations and layoff bs lol
tbh anytime i see anymore work for google if you do this certification course that takes one weekend
imma flip
im all in support of getting people a better opportunity for their future, but to sell them the lie that a certification alone will guarantee you a job is like selling linkedin snake oil
that shit cheeses the life out of me
just typical silicon valley tech culture bs tbh
this industry is layered with crap
im so tired
ya the ppl that think you can just jump into SWE with no degree and building a few full stack projects are always interesting
Sure it worked sometimes for some people, who got in and grew experience. But for most, they either dont grind hard enough to get to that point or the market is so bad no one would be interested in them
full stack = i wrote hello world in html
i mean its never ever actually full stack shit
Ya full stack today would be building a react app with data mangment like hooks or redux, database in postgresql or mongodb, backend in nodejs that actually does something useful, docker container and deployed on cloud like aws

hell even throw in some authentication with like firebase and caching with redis too for the hell of it
but yea thats about what full stack would be
microservices
go brrr
Bro is making up words. Wth is fire base
fax
i need aws cert in 3 days
an authentication service google provides for authentication functionality
im grinding so hard for it rn
AWS slaves
also @lunar sonnet what do u think about these jobs:
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3607935258/?alternateChannel=search&refId=Zw4aCRI%2Fbr2s11bGxp9eJQ%3D%3D&trackingId=m0sZDBSLN76VtnEpjDpFMA%3D%3D
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3602443505/?alternateChannel=search&refId=%2BTaZAIRe2WQ6Ep500%2BsR%2BA%3D%3D&trackingId=9ZKpaVOx2wYOgDBbaYH7fg%3D%3D
what skills with cloud do u think i should target? I was planning on going through building a few projects with AWS using Lamba and Gateway and dynamoDB by following this udemy guide
https://www.udemy.com/course/aws-lambda-serverless-architecture/
and go over kubernetes with this
https://www.udemy.com/course/learn-kubernetes/learn/lecture/9703196#overview
and then just finish up my AWS cloud cert im already like half way through the amazon free course for it
yea well microsoft was too fuckin late lol
arent u like really desperate for a job u should be over here grinding aws also 
okay 
i dont have finals at my uni thank god i dont give a crap about uni anymore, i just submit my work first day of the new week and ignore it till the next weeks assignment come out
idk is the aws cloud practitioner cert even that useful? there's a bunch of higher level ones then that you need to get also
im getting it rn just to pass interviews. the knowledge is very useful for that company trivia
lmao really
https://www.interviewkickstart.com/interview-questions/cloud-engineer-interview-questions
https://intellipaat.com/blog/interview-question/cloud-computing-interview-questions/?US
i was reading these questions and it's really similar to the cloud practioner
Prepare for your next cloud Engineer job interview with popular and technical cloud Engineer interview questions and answers to land a top gig as a cloud engineer.
Ya i started yesterday and already 50% done with course
im trying to knock it out in 2 more days and take exam and then apply for intern cloud jobs
there's so many fall intern cloud jobs coming out
yeah this shit was always so funny to me.
nobody applying cause they dont like cloud
they dont realize that a lot of those successful bootcampers had like a mf math degree or physics degree or some shit
and had that grind in them
what course ya doing?
or previous technical knowledge
The free amazon one it's https://explore.skillbuilder.aws/learn/course/134/play/62437/aws-cloud-practitioner-essentials;lp=82
Your learning center to build in-demand cloud skills.
sick ill try
everyone is always shitting on aws cert lol
that's good though it keeps the jobs for the ppl that actually grind it
ok these are really easy
im doing it from this guys link with 6 exams
if you have dev exp (just basics from school even) this should be easy enough to pass
i crammed this in 1-2 days and passed the cloud exam (same one you're practicing)
oh thank you ill check it out
i just did it bc i had to fill the quota in my team
still a nice to have since i do use cloud
uw 1st republic
rip first republic
became 10th republic rq
F
went back and read the job description
that job the recruiter got back to me on friday
$15/hr for inperson intern
in an expensive af area

that's data for u
they expect you to eat the data for food
and sleep in the server room while the data gets processed
I graduate in December. Is it too early to start applying now?
Okay sounds good. How would you advise I go about it? What would be the most fruitful?
#2023_grads message
idk read this
What are you doing to get ready for this? Just leetcode stuff?
leetcode, aws certs, projects, summer internship, maybe fall internship if i land it, learn a bunch of tech stacks for multiple catered resumes to certain areas so i can mass apply to places for any job
oh that in particular. i need to do a lot of leetcode they ask DP mediums there apparently
because 2024 is

and mayb they will hire a lot of new-grads like last year
but if they dont hire a ton of new grads they are going to be #1 shit company and i will never support
again
Would you think frontend engineers are harder to find a job?
I don’t really have any company in particular I’m looking for. I just want to see what opportunities there are. Any certs you guys think I should go for in general?
is aws hard?
leetcode, theory, leetcode, some more leetcode, a lil bit of theory added into it, and finally some more leetcode
leetcodes big but not everything. you can't leetcode if u dont get interviews

but wat if u do get interviews

you need like a lot of interviews so u can fail a ton and still get by in a few and also improve rapidly with your interviewing skills
What are you doing to get a lot of interviews?
ya i mean i plan to apply for every new grad and entry level and jr position in the usa
i need to get a bot that aggregates all job postings to my email every 6 hours somehow
i have a 3.75 gpa maybe 3.8 by the time i graduate in december 
like i said man we are the same ppl
My gpa was a 3.8
i dont need citizenship too
- 1
just interview so much u stop caring
i never did research, just 2 internships. 1st one was 9 months, 2nd is 3 months, maybe 3rd if i land fall 
I have also done two internships. Both at same company. Nothing super impressive
i'm just grinding 12hrs/day this summer for preppin
aws certs, a few projects, a b.s in computer science. i guess that's all ill have going into new-grad
i dont think a shtty internship was worth it
if it's in person, then i was defo not going to prep
i sit in my room all day
i'm about to pick up japanese food
then break and watch more neetcode videos back home


same
u should start on lc 150 with me
i just finished another module on aws so i think im going to take a break on it
go back to lc
got to finish up arrays im so close. actually not good im still on arrays, but they put in like 25 problems on it it's a ton
theres another reason to get a job
so i dont have to touch anymore god damn stupid ass leetcode crap
until you search for another job
ya im just going to keep leetcoding when i get a new-grad job
probably whatever new-grad job i get is not going to pay enough to be worth staying for. Just get experience and job hop as soon as i can get somewhere better
what do they ask leetcode past the entry level bs
im going for big boy trading firms after like a year
gonna get good at leetcode (maybe)
honestly, true
i suppose ill never escape leetcode
same difficulty but more rounds from what I’ve seen
for seniors and mid
compared to ng at least
ah well im sure ill have plenty of time to do leetcode if i get this fully on-site job, god the anxiety is killing me
who does full onsite in 2023 and not even hybrid that would an instant red flag
get offer at mediocre firm -> get put on garden leave -> spend those free months sweating lc and get something better that’s my 2025 plan 😈
ya exactly
i just need time to get good at lc
if u grind for 1 year and market recovers and you have 1 yoe it'll be a lot easier to get into big-tech
yea you'd think it would be a red flag but i havent seen any, interview process has been super good and they went through my colleges career center to hire
also like
do i have a choice
idk do u
no LMAO
Yeah job > unemployment
Full in office isn’t necessarily a red flag
More like a sign that the company is traditional
Red flag is when they want you to purchase office supplies and they say they’ll transfer you the money
classic
Full in office is just an inconvenience depending your view on remote vs office
always an inconveninance
i interned fully in office before covid, efficiency was crap
i prefered being able to sleep
Granted my team invited me to drink with them on the first day 
And I’d occasionally take slightly long breaks in a game / pool room
that just sounds like working from home but with extra steps
are u saying onsite for the interview process
nah interviews were remote
but like the job is fully in person they told me as much
oh this is fine imo
this other company im speaking with wanted me to come on-site for an interview and their position is fully on-site though
ll
lol
thank fuck im based in the nyc area
id think its wack if they expect you to come in person for interviews
for like 5 interview rounds
that would be fucked
idk as a new grad im broke i dont want to spend my money trying to commute
ooh what company in nyc
and have to get an apartment nearby in an expensive area
i just want a hybrid job i can save up money at
Yeah the one thing I’m in favor of being full remote is interviews for sure
they should pay u enough to be able to commute, lot of time dont they reimburse too
the govt naturally
oh no lol
i dont even have a car or reliable transport so id need a BIG sign on bonus to afford it. Or maybe just make a 1-2k downpayment on a used car and pay it off monthly
my friends who are older said they used to actully fly students out for interviews during midterms
sounds like hell
Just saves everyone time. Especially when interviews are are basically both parties playing a game of pretending to be this perfect entity for the position.
yeah its ass but like thats how the typical job market, get a job - typically in a city. then move there
flying out would be so fun for me
it would be a break from regular grinding
get to go have fun and interview
then come back and grind
only good if u are unemployed and out of uni
its not a break its full stress
Yeah even if it’s compensated and paid for… it’s just such a time sink
like i am basically, just doing my last classes online
Which agency lmfao
it was exciting, ppl looked forward to it
ofc the elon companies
elon just said he wants to vet every hire they do
80k > unemployed
hiring and paying executives < not letting them do their job
depends for what, i got enough savings maybe i want to be unemployed
true but it just feels like
my philosophy is grind hard and get the best offer i can. If i have to grind hard and get a low offer it's like...why now im just back to grinding to get a better job while i hold down a temp job to afford stuff
I mean it’s kind of under the assumption that you need that income to survive lol
fair lol
Ya i have no savings i need a job so bad
i can barely make it over fall i even need to land a fall internship to just make more income and the experience is just a side benefit
move back home after college >>
cant though unfortunately, my parents dont live in the USA
But yeah if you have the savings, life is too short to spend it at a job that you hate
yeah this is what id do for 80k job
if im being paid 80k to move to nyc/sf/sea i feel like id want to quit too quickly to warrent it worth moving
80k in mid west is solid
Only 100k?
i knowww
Pffff
You’re comfortable with 80k in Midwest
ok but what if u cant drive
80k-100k in florida thats not miami/tampa/orlando
but also
outcome like if u land 80k that's probably a shitty mid-tier company no name place
is so good
can’t live on less than 300k tbh
Might not be ideal location depending on your interests but you’ll have a comfortable housing and food
assuming ur 21+ , u can get the license in 3.5 months
and bumblefuck driving is easier
but ur still entry
just stay there for a few yrs then get a comfy remote position
at a big company
fuck this crap
that's not entirely the point tho, usually CS jobs scale in pay. If u get a low pay company it's probably bad place and u wont get much resume prestige. high pay companies are way better in benefits and prestige and tech you work on.
i mean like cant drive at all though
oh my bad
if u get a job that does like ASP .NET that's a decade old and pays you 80k, it's not really an enviable job
sure u make 80k
but it's shit and u get no experience that's useful
Driving is ass anyways
Wish good public transport was more ubiquitous in the US
I think ppl who are unemployed don’t give af about prestige
They just want to afford rent and be able to eat
why does this server hate .net lol
Cause it's boomer
that’s like the 3rd time in the last week or so that I’ve seen ppl shit on .net
Not legacy
Software Engineer (Entry Level ) , FULL-TIME, Salary $100K - $130K a year & minimum 2 years work experience.
WHY CALL IT ENTRY LEVEL

wdym
Isn’t C# supposed to be more well liked than Java at least?
hm yeah I’ve never ever thought of .net as legacy lol
c# is straight up Java but better
It is
hmm ok
idk ive seen this too and in the desc they ask for masters degree
Entry level is 3 years nowadays
Fair
when will uni cs classes count as "experience"
i got 3+ of that
Haha
does high school count 🥺
I think we’d need to have professors that could actually teach first
i got 8 years in that case
did u go to those cs high schools
No
I literally could have learned everything from uni through google searches
We didn’t even have a cs teacher we had to teach ourselves the curriculum lol
dare u to drop out and buy one of those fake diplomas online for 200$
Azure is huge with feds
Bro Geeks4Geeks articles explained DSA more than my prof
.net is one of the most in demand techs in the uk
Idk why Feds like azure so much
I already finished a legit degree though
like half of the jobs on linkedin are c# lol
oh awesome congrats
UK is small init
No idea when I’ll receive the paper degree 😂
side question, do u think like typically do LC hard. i spend way too long trying to figure them out and it ends up frustrating me out of the grind
i guarantee you the majority of mid level engineers cant do lc hards
i dont cuz im finding it hard to convince myself tht lc is worth it
im working on the reverse k nodes in linked list and i fucking hate it
LC style interviews are just putting on a performance
lc performance is not indicative of how you would do at an actual job
it simply tells you how good you are at doing lc problems
when do the put up the 2024 grad channel up
daily for what? its in my grok list
because companies need some arbitary measure to deal with entry level oversaturation
Daily problem on LC site
Even behavioral are arbitrary
Because everyone has these slightly embellished stories for situations they may or may not have encountered
Can you solve this real interview question? Reverse Nodes in k-Group - Given the head of a linked list, reverse the nodes of the list k at a time, and return the modified list.
k is a positive integer and is less than or equal to the length of the linked list. If the number of nodes is not a multiple of k then left-out nodes, in the end, should...
this one made me want to off meself
speak for yourself. first day on the job i had to derive the order of letters from an alien dictionary
the interviews i usually like are the ones they ask technical concepts and ask about the shit you have on your resume
I learned that before prog 1
entry level oversaturation go brrrrr

i didnt interview for a while bc i had a job got laid off. yada yada yada. my technical question was what is oop and i couldnt articulate it
not really but they show up sometimes
funny how that works right lol
just know what the 4 pillars are and you good
My manager once asked me to find the number of ships in rectangle
quick question but have any of u guys did datadog process for ng
datadog has new grad?
in the past
yeah ik thats why it was so pathetic
must suck having to dip your toes back into entry level question bs
after you know, having actualy done shit
oh shit did u have to move for that job
yikes
what you think i just retained the 4 pillars of oop in my head lmao
only reason i do is because of interviews
Oop the type of thing I learned once in 1st year then never had to touch for the rest of the degree then relearn the past few months lol
OOP is common interview topic lol
I got asked about waterfall and agile too once
difference between writing literal oop code and then having to explicitly define the 4 pillars
but eh
oop is an easy topic so whatever
and i oop
haskell was a mistake
The only thing that I got going is I am getting responses from my applications
So my resume works
Higher level languages were a mistake. Everything should be in Assembly.
https://leetcode.com/problems/longest-common-prefix/description/?envType=study-plan-v2&id=top-interview-150
idk how to solve this problem
it should be ez but
how many apps / response ratio
When did NG jobs peak for 2023?
im sort of stuck i watched neetcode
I don't keep track
Which month I mean
after 2023 hit and layoffs came in it became bad
Just to get an idea for 2024
just do this
Christ
2024 market in one image
Man is literally targeting those LinkedIn lunatics that are like "today I saw a dog on the side of the road and adopted it, the dog was my boss"
@jovial latch sent u dm
so were the original Pokemon games iirc
Hmm I hope I don’t get burnt out grinding too hard I’m already starting to feel my productivity go down
Maybe tomorrow I can get more done just need to get up in the right mindset
USE TRIE. Most optimized way
Prayers out to my amazon brothers and sisters 
ayo what the fuck am i looking at rn
my man needs to get a side job and grind leetcode instead of this foolery
unique approach
that's a brilliant idea, I will go bay area and setup a stall and do the same
atleast than I would get better opportunities
actually
the guy seems to have a computer, maybe hes doing leetcode or a side job at the same time lmao
you know what, you're right
this man needs to CONTINUE this grindery**
@brave forge just zip them up!
def longestCommonPrefix(self, strs: List[str]) -> str:
pre=''
for i in zip(*strs):
if len(set(i))==1:
pre+=i[0]
else:
return pre
return pre
is solving 1000 leetcode questions enough for this job market ?
nope! 😦 companies stopped givng oa's because of overhyped chatgpt which can't even solve a leetcode easy....
if u solve the entire question bank maybe leetcode will hire u
Is sillcon valley a good tv show?
no
What’s a good tv show in ur opinion then
Breaking Bad
I finished that shit 10 yrs ago man
cyberpunk edgerunners
My right hand is an edgerunner
lol
try trailer park boys
barry
ive seen the first 3 seasons
Fargo season 1 is too good
i agree with most of this except for GOT and the mandalorian
modern fam
opinion on rings of power? 👀
dunno
to keep it brief though, mainstream opinion on GOT is that season 8 bad
anyone whos read the books will tell you shit started to deviate and deteroriate at the end of season 4
this is when they started to ignore the 4th and 5th book and basically just do their own dumb shit because grrm is fucking complicated
no lol, things become really inconsistent and dont make any sense





grinding so hard



i need gacha money


