#2023_grads

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tardy geode
vital leaf
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easy apply?

tardy geode
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i do like 20 easy apply and 20 normal

prisma flax
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Applied in feb or march?

tardy geode
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then the next hour i do 40 normal apply

vital leaf
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March

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not me

prisma flax
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Am gonna apply now so thinking how many months its gonna take

vital leaf
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my friend got it

tardy geode
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its kinda crazy how i do it but i hope this shit works

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people say easy apply doesn't do shit but i got 2 intern offers from it

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so i believe it ain't a total waste

vital leaf
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cool

tardy geode
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i have this counter app on my mac that i keep a track on

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i hope the grind pays off prayge

vital leaf
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I dont track

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That shit is time consuming

tardy geode
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i reset it every hour

tardy geode
vital leaf
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Lets just say I have a script which takes cares of that

tardy geode
obsidian crater
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How tf you find 400 jobs

vital leaf
obsidian crater
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or do you apply to senior as well

tardy geode
vital leaf
tardy geode
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i apply to 0-3 yoe

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and new grad roles

obsidian crater
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Google?

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or linkedin

tardy geode
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linkedin

vital leaf
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I apply to everything below 10 years

tardy geode
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bruh

vital leaf
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I dont even have 5 yrs thanos

tardy geode
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💀

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bro then its just wasting time , you will anyways get rejected

obsidian crater
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you guys are grinding apps

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inspiration

tardy geode
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the problem is the next few days its like rejects only

vital leaf
obsidian crater
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Half of the stuff is dice

vital leaf
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chamanti puvva puvva puvva banti pula meda kattana

autumn iris
tardy geode
tardy geode
autumn iris
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Do u guys have a seperate email for applying

vital leaf
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Dice is full of * * * *

autumn iris
tardy geode
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one of my personal mail inbox was flooded with them

autumn iris
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I applied to 500 apps for this summer for internships

vital leaf
autumn iris
vital leaf
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My friend applied 300 jobs daily. He has been doing it since 2 months

tardy geode
vital leaf
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5 calls though

autumn iris
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Wut

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For interns?

vital leaf
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hm

autumn iris
vital leaf
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he has 8 years of experience

autumn iris
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wtf

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How

vital leaf
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in Microsoft

tardy geode
vital leaf
tardy geode
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damn

autumn iris
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I had like 4 interviews the past week

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I kinda fked up by applying late

vital leaf
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he is graduating this fall , so he is trying to get intern and then get it convert to full time

chilly burrow
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🩶💮🧆🏢🎗

autumn iris
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But like

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300 a day for internship?

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im confused

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Or u mean he worked 8yrs out of county

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And did a master in US

chilly burrow
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I for one, think the user @vital leaf is playing a joke

vital leaf
autumn iris
chilly burrow
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Also known as trolling

vital leaf
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Just kidding

autumn iris
vital leaf
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He applied to 1k internships

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this is true

autumn iris
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How many callbacks

obsidian crater
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I have 10 yoe at Jane St

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I got resume rejected by TCS

chilly burrow
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I applied 2 0 internships 😎

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Bcuz I'm a new grad 😭

vital leaf
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I think tesla interview is going on

autumn iris
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worrySalute graduating december

obsidian crater
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Tesla resume rejected me

chilly burrow
obsidian crater
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I asked my homie for referral from his sis

chilly burrow
obsidian crater
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She is senior NPI at tesla

autumn iris
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im gunna start applying to full times in june

chilly burrow
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Even with the cold email?

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@obsidian crater ?

obsidian crater
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yeah rip

chilly burrow
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Damn 😔

vital leaf
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hm

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My mentor got fired today

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mentor from past company

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I'm even applying to hardware positions although, I'm into software

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Its quite here

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dead quiet

serene nymph
obsidian crater
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autopilot tooling

serene nymph
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tyty

quaint talon
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shame

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autopilot org TC is poggers

obsidian crater
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according to what I've read on leetcode, they expect you to work weekends sometimes

quaint talon
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oh yeah

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I'm sure

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it'll be fun tho

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i interviewed with the low level cpp team and they were all very hyped

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plus you get to drive the engineering cars

obsidian crater
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well if the TC is good I'm ok with weekends

quaint talon
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yuh

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my plan is to grind it out until initial grant vests

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Then we'll see how refreshers are

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Honestly there's a good chance I'll be fired by Elon

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my team is very exposed

obsidian crater
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You work at Tesla?

brave forge
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im not against working for elon but his company hiring processes are really hard

timber rock
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yeah but that’s not very high

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the one i accepted was like number 110 but their process took 3 months so I’d applied to another 100 before i got the offer

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there are people here with way more than me

quaint talon
obsidian crater
mellow robin
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When do new grad openings open up for Dec grads?

fallen fox
raw echo
crystal steppe
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Not to mention that it's a huge plus on your CV

brave forge
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Ya the resume value of working for an elon compnay is so good

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im hoping in the next decade more space companies start popping up it'd be cool to work for them. Probably after the next moon landing there will be more software jobs in that area

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Ya that's what I mean. I did do a job search for space companies that were lesser known and there are a few defense area companies that do satellite work or produce some systems hiring for entry level

obsidian crater
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pinged

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JS is gross

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Honestly

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JS isn't as bad as front-end

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erm I mean CSS

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Fuck CSS

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I'm doing everything

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Solidity backend

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interacts JS frontend

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not using node

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why is node bad?

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My backend is not JS

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It's a smart contract running on a local fake blockchain

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solidity is a language of its own

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I'm using a library though

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So barely writing any

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You "host" the smart contract on a local blockchain or test network

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Use web3.js library to interact with it

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web3.js can call the smart contract functions

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Just minted an NFT

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💰

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on a side note

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Github copilot is fucking amazing

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Gonna make my pump and dump scheme real quick

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I don't really like the whole async stuff

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Tbf I don't really know much JS

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So skill issue really

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Go is amazing

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I love Go concurrency

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ngl man

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this crypto shit is kinda meme

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if not for the class title being blockchain I'd never touch it

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Haven't seen many legit usecases for crypto yet

timber rock
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i hate solidity

obsidian crater
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Besides memecoins and pump and dumps

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C good

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Except for certain cringe undefined behavior

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I used it at my internship for 2 months

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So I don't hate it as much anymore

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C++ though fuck C++

timber rock
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c++ is good

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normal c is the worst

cloud ridge
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It's ok

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Oop is a mistake

obsidian crater
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C++ is not low level

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It's both low level

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and more abstract than Java

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C++ is like

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C++ lets you do too many things in too many ways

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Because design by comittee

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Every few years they add something bonkers to C++ that makes it even more bloated and raises compile times

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The company I worked at our makefile would take a solid minute or so to compile and build on an AMD threadripper

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what

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you don't use package.json scripts?

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honestly the sucky part of C++ isn't even memory management

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you don't need to do manual memory management post C++11

cloud ridge
obsidian crater
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ah

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also 10x compile times, if you're using modern C++ with lots of templates

timber rock
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competitive programming nerds use it cause it’s fast

obsidian crater
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I used C++ because the job was embedded/real time stuff

timber rock
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people like me use it cause your job makes you

obsidian crater
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Using Python to read from an analog to digital board KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

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I was in your mom last night bro

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Just like everyone else on Xbox live

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Techie is silent

timber rock
obsidian crater
pastel bane
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when do you expect the big tech companies will start hiring crazily again?
like next year?

steady owl
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never

obsidian crater
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Gonna be real hard unless you went to top school

timber rock
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Dunno about low latency but I’ve heard good things about learncpp.con

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That’s what I’m gonna use over summer

neon tide
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My wife said get to 200k tc first

west egret
obsidian crater
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seggs

compact sundial
swift falcon
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ouid

woven berry
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C>

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ANYTHING

autumn iris
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they hired a lot cause interest rates were super low, they might hire again but very selective

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but meta is laying off again next month

quaint talon
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I honestly don't know shit about c++, I just have a copy of Tour of C++ and look up whatever i need

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Unironically pulled it out during the Tesla onsite and the interviewer was like respect

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No

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I have a good understanding of the language though, used to use it a lot more in HS

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The c++ 11 features are really fun

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Honestly learning rust gives you a much better understanding of c++

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When to use move and when to use copy

obsidian crater
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kuro where do you work again

swift falcon
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DEEZ NUTZ

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bruh pls

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c++ ezpz

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if you can dodge a wrench you can program c++

quaint talon
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A lot of people program c++ like they would in c

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In many cases that's not the kosher way of doing it

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In many ways prod c++ these days looks more like rust

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Tbf I think rust has much nicer handling of strings and containers

obsidian crater
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C++ syntax is nasty

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I wanna learn rust

quaint talon
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It's almost like compiled python in a way, the way you can use iterators as generators

west rune
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Question: I plan to get Linkedin Premium this summer to help with recruiting for NG however I am a bit unsure who I should be messaging. Should I be targeting recruiters of companies or the managers of a certain positions (Ex: SWE manager)?

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My plan is to message them asking if they have any insight on when their NG positions will open. I don't think asking for a referral is the right message to send but may be wrong on that

autumn iris
brave forge
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if your dumb and a beginner at leetcoding i really don't see how it can help. The tutorials suck, the extra questions are not that important, and you don't even get access to the beginner guides without buying it seperately

west rune
jaunty basalt
brave forge
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ohh i read leetcode because im leetcoding right now

delicate sigil
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Has anyone given interview for SDE role at United Health Group

obsidian crater
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no

timber rock
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no one

swift falcon
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ever in history

obsidian crater
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never ver

swift falcon
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amen

wispy mason
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Has the situation gotten any better? Does it look like its getting better?

fallen fox
obsidian crater
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I don't think it'll get better for a while

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The Fed's doing another hike in May and then stopping but we could still fall into a recession

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Honestly it's hard to predict, just try your best

fallen fox
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or just rope

obsidian crater
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If I have to

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I got that dawg in me though

delicate lantern
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Should I put my education near the bottom if I go to a cuny?

sleek owl
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isnt that nice though?

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i heard people say put experience at the top then project then education but idk

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being macaulay, i assume you have near perfect gpa, so it might be nice to put that at the top

wispy mason
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if you have a gpa less than 4 should you put it in your resume?

obsidian crater
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If it's 3.5 or above sure

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Barely anybody has a 4.0

swift falcon
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did the impact blurb on top

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keywords

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then experience

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then education

split plaza
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have we done our prayge for the coming week

obsidian crater
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mashallah

bold pier
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Inshallah boys will get jobs prayge

ornate cliff
potent meteor
swift falcon
ornate cliff
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oh like a summary

swift falcon
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yea

ornate cliff
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It's a waste of space imo

swift falcon
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yeah

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but i paid $250

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so it’s gotta be worth sth right?

autumn iris
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I should get a reject early this week

swift falcon
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ig you right

oblique wasp
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Does anyone know the recruiter's name fir the new grad role at Databricks?

swift falcon
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And I hope they let me start close to june because this dang baby needs to be born on current job’s insurance

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otherwise im losing out on like 5k of medical bills ive paid towards max out of pocket this year

delicate lantern
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Oh wait I just read the older chats

pure mauve
autumn iris
oblique wasp
ornate cliff
tacit grove
grizzled bronze
ornate cliff
grizzled bronze
serene nymph
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lord knows how many times ive applied to databricks lol

grizzled bronze
pine topaz
ornate cliff
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well... phone screen was just behavioural so

pine topaz
ornate cliff
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HOPE

grizzled bronze
pine topaz
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stop @pulsar mural

ornate cliff
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😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

pine topaz
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go play costume quest

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and cosutme quest II

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and minecraft dungenons

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and roblox..

grizzled bronze
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@pulsar mural how is Arizona?

pine topaz
tawdry snow
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gm

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its may and i'm still fucked

brave forge
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same i need to get a move on it this month. If i don't become good at leetcode, build a few more projects in new tech stacks, learn AWS and cloud development, and get my react skills refreshed before my internship next month im going to be screwed

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@restive cedar helppp

south sable
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why do you have to do all that for an internship?

brave forge
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not the internship, I'm graduating in December and I need to get ready for new-grad interviews by July/August

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Only thing I wanted to do before I start intern is review my react skills, maybe go over the react docs so I don't have to spend time on that when it starts

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i see how i messed the phrasing up on that by including it in the end though

south sable
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ahh okay

swift falcon
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bros what if we just decided to be not unemployed

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like we just got some jobs or sth

fallen fox
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2023 is almost halfway over

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still unemployed

brave forge
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time to riot

autumn iris
rigid quail
fallen fox
swift falcon
fossil jewel
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yesterday's rain wasnt very fun

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weather been at a consistent 50F or so

obsidian crater
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bless

fossil jewel
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better today

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but damn

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i got caught in that rain two days in a row

obsidian crater
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I want sleep

fossil jewel
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i can sleep for 12 hours and still feel garbage

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if anything thats why

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too much makes you groggy

swift falcon
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get tested

fossil jewel
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i think i just struggle with meh sleep quality

swift falcon
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dang

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alr

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im gettin a machine sometime next week probably

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hoping i'll see some improvement

fossil jewel
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hopefully

autumn jolt
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Thursday morning, I got a call from a recruiter which I missed then she left a voice message to call her back and that it is regarding my recent application. I called her twice and also left a voice message, she has not responded nor reached out again. What should I do? sugeztions please prayge

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Should I wait or call her again? Will I look desperate? well I am despara.. for a job

tardy geode
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this is an employers market , desperation is normal

late kestrel
tardy geode
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by employers market i mean , they have the power . post covid until 2022 mid was employee market . people were having multiple offers negotiating tc like a boss was the scene like

autumn jolt
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Yeah I just don't want her to feel buggy

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Both Thursday. I called in the morning and in the late aftenoon

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Just one call I missed why not consider me PepeHands

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Thank you wazowski_standing

swift falcon
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is the 48 hr after interview email follow-up essential

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(and does 48 business hrs count)

autumn jolt
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True but I was in my class when I got a call. That's pretty sad if they don't consider just because I didn't pick their unscheduled call 😭 hoping she gets back. If not I'll call her, I need a Job

late kestrel
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but it probably doesnt hurt, but dont be too pushy

outer radish
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ANYONE ELSE HERE A 2023 GRAD WIT NO JOB

tardy geode
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me

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i am still fighting , not gonna give up . I worked way too hard to reach where i am today

fallen fox
outer radish
tardy geode
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it hurts , it exhausts me , makes me cry but i won't give up

fallen fox
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im gonna rope end of this month

outer radish
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cause thats what you're doing rn son salute

fallen fox
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hopefully this rope is strong enough to hold my 194 pound frame

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outer radish
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"the most successful face the same adversities as the average person, what defines them is how they bounce back and what they do in those times" - staff software engineer @ wendys

lunar hatch
obsidian crater
tardy geode
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i am also looking for contract jobs at this point

lunar hatch
tardy geode
lunar hatch
tardy geode
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idk how will i put a happy face in front of others and attend my grad ceremony

lunar hatch
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i think situations might be better in ~3 months but, like slightly better

fallen fox
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i didnt attend graduation

obsidian crater
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KEKW I'm not even going to graduation

fallen fox
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no point

obsidian crater
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Not worth it

fallen fox
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i was depressed and miserable

lunar hatch
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everyone's suffering

fallen fox
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surrounded by everyone who have never been happier in their lives

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made me more depressed and miserable

tardy geode
obsidian crater
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same

pulsar mural
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@tardy geode

tardy geode
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this is me at the EOD ^

obsidian crater
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I'mma gonna aska mah professarah for a gig

lunar hatch
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some friends of mine did the consultancy and it absolutely sucked

obsidian crater
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My EAD is July 31

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So I'm less fucked

lunar hatch
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no contractor projects atm

obsidian crater
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But still fucked

tardy geode
obsidian crater
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June

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My finals end like 3rd week of May

tardy geode
fallen fox
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dont join consultancies

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uscis investigating them right now

tardy geode
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i have spoken to 2-3 they said rn they don't have anything but would keep you on bench

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something like that

obsidian crater
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honestly just ask your professors

tardy geode
obsidian crater
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just don't be unemployed

lunar hatch
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they're crazy

obsidian crater
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yo I know this guy

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he failed h1b 6 times

fallen fox
obsidian crater
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already got canadian PR KEKW

tardy geode
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wtf

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holy shit

obsidian crater
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yeah so I have a spicy story

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One dude I know works at some company

lunar hatch
obsidian crater
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His friend failed his 3rd H1B attempt, so he went through a consultancy

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But when his original company found out about this "fraud" they fired him

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So he has no job now rip

tardy geode
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damn

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one of my friend at google who was laid off in jan is still struggling to get anything . they have given interviews even reached the final and got a strong hire etc still not getting anythin

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he has like 20 days left of severance then his clock starts

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like he is on h1b , the worst way would be then he would have to go through a change of status to a b1/b2 that would buy him 6 months time but then he would have to go back also to his home country and ask the company to sponsor a h1b

fallen fox
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thats me copium

obsidian crater
brave forge
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im graduating this fall and copium for a job right out of university

obsidian crater
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I want a job so bad

brave forge
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i can't afford to be jobless man i need to move into that high paying young 20s lifestyle

fallen fox
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around the 6th month mark I think my unemployment would be a huge red flag and will probably make it impossible to get an interview

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at this point i would have to start lying in my resume or rope

obsidian crater
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Are you a citizen?

brave forge
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every month i waste unemployed is literally just wasting my life

obsidian crater
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Get a government job it's easy

brave forge
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im planning to lol

fallen fox
brave forge
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if i fail at other stuff

obsidian crater
brave forge
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lmao that's smart

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just waste their time and make them sponsor

obsidian crater
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they probably don't

brave forge
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how many hours a day do u internationals grind

obsidian crater
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Once I finish college probably like 8 hours

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2-4 hours leetcode, maybe an hour applying and 2-3 hours for a project I guess

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Or at least that's my plan

brave forge
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dang i got to get a schedule like that going this month

swift falcon
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should I send out separate emails to each hiring manager that interviewed me, or a combined one? (I had two ppl in interview)

obsidian crater
brave forge
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ya i do about the same with 2 hours of leetcode and an hour of uni and rest of the day on youtube/discord

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i need to really step it up this month or it's 🪢 I've only got 2 more months until new-grad 24 opens up in July and I don't want to be behind. Also considering fall 23 which is already opening up and im not ready for that either

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i did the last time I job searched for summer 23, but I was failing most of them because I was terrible at leetcode

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i haven't started job searching again really, just waiting until I get better probably next month ill try fall 23

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no im doing anything really im trying to work on getting my C++ skills ready this time

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failed OA's, failed technical interviews. I only landed an intern because the company didn't ask any technical and just did some verbal trivia on react and backend dev

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But tbf, I was job searching as a first year uni student i hadn't had much time to get ready i just gave it a shot

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well i am working on focusing on react and backend dev. Also just getting started on learning cloud dev. I'll now have 2 internships that focused on web dev so that adds some credibility. It's just I don't really want to stick with it but for now I'm still building on it just so I have something marketable

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that's the thing because i speed ran at an online uni from jan 2022 -> dec 2023 I have to look for new-grad at 1.5 yrs into uni reallyy cutting my learning time short so im just trying to land anything and then keep building skills

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my credits are at 102 with only 18 credits left so that makes me a senior

tawdry nacelle
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Anyone done Visa’s swe OA before

brave forge
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well right now is monk mode time there's only 2 months left dogesmile

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still will try to work on developing my real programming skills, there's quite a bit of tech I still want to learn like cloud, full stack dev, and rust. I also just need it so my basic skills meet more position requirements

late kestrel
tawdry nacelle
late kestrel
brave forge
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No I’m American and I used to have financial aid but that went away so I’m paying off the last 4 courses myself

tawdry nacelle
brave forge
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Ya I think cloud and web dev is where it’s at. I’m working on a full stack tutoring app with WebRTC and with my internship working on web dev it should help my skills get better

tawdry nacelle
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I'm taking my last final today and tomorrow but I'm gonna grind leetcode to study for it

brave forge
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I did that., I’m only doing the minimum of 2 class per term and it’s still a December grad date

shrewd ivy
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Plus economy is getting better so I bet there will be more opportunities

stray imp
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Can we renege an offer after signing it ?

tardy geode
neon tide
tardy geode
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i have seen people reneging on offers 2 days before joining

neon tide
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Tbh in this market I would accept two and reneg one right before it starts

tardy geode
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but idk if thats illegal

neon tide
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Rescinding is way too scary

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It’s not illegal

tardy geode
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oh

stray imp
tardy geode
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oh i see , congratulations:)

stray imp
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Yes

stray imp
tardy geode
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bruh why is that dumb , companies do that shit too , like taking away the signed offer

neon tide
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Corporate shilling is on the menu here I see

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Yes because all offers come in at the same time

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Or in the correct order

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Lol.

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It could be weeks or even months

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What are you talking about

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Pause and think my man

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Interview for job A and job B. Offer for job A comes through. 5 weeks later you get followup for job B which is much better company. You interview job B and get an offer

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How the fuck you know about Job B yet?

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You don’t reneg preemptively

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You wait for a second offer ofc

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Corporate shilling

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Companies rescind offers all the time

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Lay people off all the time

autumn iris
neon tide
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Lmao job A offers you 90k and job B offers you 200k

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You not reneging?

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My ass

autumn iris
#

90k remote, at parents lcol

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vs 200k cali/nyc

teal jackal
#

200k cali/nyc is also going to set you up for faster job growth in the long run

neon tide
autumn iris
#

lets not get carried away and get an offer in the first place

teal jackal
#

If you have personal reasons to justify reneging just do it tbh

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no ethics needed

fallen fox
#

yeah just renege whenever

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these companies will lay you off whenever they want lmao

teal jackal
#

^

neon tide
#

In an at-will employment country there is no reason to carry water for corporate companies than can fire you lay you off or rescind your offer

fallen fox
#

be prepared to potentially get blacklisted though

neon tide
#

If you want my loyalty or me to be more considerate then change the laws in each state

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Thinking 99% of companies will do anything besides act in the best interest of their bottom line is misguided

teal jackal
#

it ain't running the business bankrupt, sorry to say but every social dynamic which produces winners also produces losers

rigid quail
#

blacklisting is a complete myth practically speaking

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unless you’ve done something way crazier than renege on a lowball offer

neon tide
#

Worst blackist I’ve heard of was 12 months

teal jackal
#

company could lay me off and HR, despite having helped me in my onboarding process, would be laying the groundwork for it
I absolutely do not think anyone in the corporate world is loyal to me nor do they have a reason to be loyal to me

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so I have no reason to feel guilt for "betraying" them

neon tide
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Or just more life/employment experience.

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If you are able to go an entire career without an employer in some way screwing you, you are very lucky.

teal jackal
#

it's simple reality, I'm not saying renege just to troll the employer, but it's warranted to protect your own interest

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nobody owes anyone anything in life other than to not literally murder others

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if reneging has a strong justification do it

neon tide
#

If you reach 40 and still think employers care about you then that’s either misguided or an incredibly rare set of employment opportunities

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Lol

teal jackal
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(except my parents they gave me an amazing foundation for life 😻 i owe them my best effort)

neon tide
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Yeah man if you just work harder and have a better attitude then employers will sacrifice the bottom line for you personally.

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Cause if you’re a cheapo that’s the metric they use to cut you

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Lmao

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All employers take care of good employees

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Is what you’re saying

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Come on now

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You’re just thankful for the opportunity to work for them

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They have blessed you

grizzled bronze
#

Based on your Discord activity, you have unlimited PTO

neon tide
#

Never want to interact with you in a professional environment lol

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Holy

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Bad manager vibes

teal jackal
#

nobody said "renege for fun"

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I do trust that many employers do feel sad about laying people off, but at the same time they did the cost benefit analysis for it and couldn't turn it down

neon tide
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Well as long as they feel bad about it, don’t be a leech and accept your layoff with a side of corporate koolaid

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Cause they felt bad

teal jackal
#

It's the exact same logic with reneging

grizzled bronze
#

If you're not being a leech, you're doing it wrong

teal jackal
#

you feel bad but the other side is too good to turn down

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you'd actually be absolute zero IQ to turn down a much better personal opportunity

brave forge
#

same 🪢

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i try to forget about my hs days

prime palm
tardy geode
#

i have slept in the library for 2 days straight

brave forge
#

i feel like it's hard to work with offers and hold them while your trying to interview at other companies

tardy geode
#

they have a online tipping form to report

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yeah

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fr

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finally

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basically they investigating multiple h1b petitions

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ik a dude who has filed h1b with 12 companies and got picked for 4

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😠

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yes

fallen fox
#

780k applications/85k h1bs so like around 10% chance to get an h1b

tardy geode
#

dude its not offers , its like they file with 12 clients of that consultancy

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clients are customers of the consultancy

fallen fox
tardy geode
#

approx 300k were genuine , 400k were duplicates

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its wild

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good that they are investigating

fallen fox
#

doesn't matter, you're still competing against 780k applications

tardy geode
#

yes

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they should ban those people forever

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my friend at Snowflake didn't get his h1b picked up for the 3rd time , now he is gonna move to canada or somewhere else where snowflake has their offices

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i see , was this your last attempt?

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so rn are you on STEM OPT ?

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yogi

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oh

brave forge
#

That’s why they are implementing the bill to block AI from launching nukes

fallen fox
#

h1b lottery next year will likely be a lot more civlized

tardy geode
#

oh i see

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i am down for that but no rizz no job no money

brave forge
#

They don’t have any at google ?

late kestrel
#

what in the incel

#

techie stfu yes he is lol

tacit grove
#

@young peak have you ever tried calling a recruiter if they haven't responded to an email for interview ability or when you negotiated?

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Okay, yeah because a recruiter has straight up ghosted me after asking for my availability...it's been 6 days...not sure whether they're not interested or the recruiter is OOO

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Okay...and when you negotiated was it via call or email?

brave forge
#

Damn telling Uber they are broke and can’t afford you

tacit grove
#

Oh wow!

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hahahaahahah

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Once you reach a certain tc level there is no looking down KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

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Do you guys think it's disrespectful to just give a call to a recruiter if they're not responding or am I overthinking this

brave forge
#

what level are you at apple

tacit grove
#

No you're right, I would keep negotiating to the max and then jump ship....they're keeping your offer at hand for 6 months right? Would you have to re-interview again?

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honestly l4 already in this time frame is gucci

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@young peak

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Did they ask system design questions - what was the difference like for apples interview?

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I think he means boring as in product is not as exciting to work on but the stack is useful in growth...i might be wrong

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my work is hella boring and im not reaching anywhere. I'm self studying on the side otherwise ill look like a donkey wherever I go next

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What did you study for apple's interview @young peak ? Was it lc based/system design based or something else? Also did you get your i-983 back yet?

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What do you guys think is a demanding tech stack to learn atm?

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what does Google use atm?

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I believe react has become pretty demanding

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along with postgre for backend

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what do the high paying ones demand nowadays?

timber rock
#

angular !!!!!11!

brave forge
#

man puts his bachelors degree behind his work desk honestly goated

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in a drawer

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no im kidding actually it's a great spot on your desk

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also wtf techie got a bachelor of science in software engineering and not computer science hmmge

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techie is an imposter confirmed

late kestrel
#

being a cs major is so cringe

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yall r weird

brave forge
#

@livid yew that sucks which pixel do you use

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ok it didn't work your safe on the recovery

jaunty basalt
#

Don’t matter, suns got it 2sure

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Just like last year peke

brave forge
#

Na it needed it to be a PNG file and you uploaded a JPG. Also google probably patched that by now, it was months ago that was discovered.

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you can try yourself on this site

swift falcon
#

wow finally joining us in the big leagues

brave forge
#

also that vulnerability is only for screenshots not photos idk why the other guy said it was

swift falcon
#

somebody make a mobile app that's a counter so I can track how many times I compulsively check my email in a day waiting for job offer

brave forge
swift falcon
#

because it was giving me the nerves

brave forge
obsidian crater
#

ez

neon perch
#

WHERE ARE THE JOBS

brave forge
#

oh ya that was easy and makes sense thanks

autumn iris
grizzled bronze
#

So many companies missing out on our talent, they'll regret not hiring enough new grads

autumn iris
#

no they hired too many

fallen fox
#

fucking bungie ghosted me after I spent 10 days on their stupid assignment working on linear algebra and lc hards

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i knew they were gonna ghost me, should've never bothered in the first place

swift falcon
#

we're super valuable

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and we're rotting away

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I just realized I'd be getting a phone call offer probably

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not an email

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🤔

brave forge
#

bungie was such a cool job sucks it didnt work out

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i would go hard for bungie or 2k but game dev is so damn hard and these nerds no life studying game dev just to build games because it's fun

fallen fox
#

apparently their final round is like 7-8 hours of linear algebra/calculus/lc hards

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split over two days

swift falcon
#

jesus

fallen fox
#

game engine engineer

brave forge
#

i think so

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game engines are just advanced vulkan or something

grizzled bronze
#

Anyone heard back from OpenAI yet for Discord Manager?

lunar hatch
#

has anyone actually heard back from 2k

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i even forgot i did their two assessments

#

lol

steady sage
south sable
#

How does anyone actually get a response from recruiters?

#

I send them requests with notes on linkedin

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And some accept but don't follow up

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And the rest don't respond

#

How am I suppose to actually connect with recruiters if they don't talk when I reach out?

pallid sapphire
#

I'm going through same^

fallen fox
south sable
normal palm
fresh mango
normal palm
fallen fox
#

they made me sign a nda HideThePain

normal palm
#

That’s crazy

fallen fox
normal palm
serene nymph
mossy fiber
#

WazowskiStare NDA for OA?

#

bruh

obsidian crater
#

2K made me

prisma flax
#

ya 2k did that

prisma flax
obsidian crater
#

no

shut thistle
fallen fox
#

the 2nd problem was straight out of b75 so idk why the nda

solemn tinsel
oblique wasp
#

I see Candice Murray

lament summit
#

whos candice?

rigid quail
fallen fox
obsidian crater
#

Gonna have to pay 2K 2K each month for the rest of your life

obsidian crater
#

Databricks is just messing with us now

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Wassup peasant graduates

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You want a job?

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Haha we'll reject you but make new postings

tacit grove
whole berry
#

i havent been rejected yet

#

is that a good sign?

obsidian crater
#

Can you solve LC hards?

serene nymph
#

Fuk databricks and ramp

#

Posting all these bait jobs

obsidian crater
#

databricks is super hard to get into anyways

normal palm
#

anyone got chair recommendations

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Under 1000? 4KEKW

fresh lagoon
#

Go get a refurbished steel case or herman miller

#

Lots of reseller places if ur in a big city

normal palm
serene nymph
#

If so, just camp Zuckerberg house, he'll eventually toss one Herman Miller into the garbage

rain patio
#

Go get a refurbished steel case or herman miller

#

Lots of reseller places if ur in a big city

normal palm
#

Go get a refurbished steel case or herman miller

#

Lots of reseller places if ur in a big city

fresh lagoon
obsidian crater
#

Techie not online tonight :/

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Can't tell him how good IASIP is

late kestrel
#

techie aint gonna be online for a long long time Sadge

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who am i kiddin he defo lurking in here already

bold pier
#

I am Techie

prisma flax
#

everyone is Techie until the real techie comes

delicate sigil
#

Does anyone know the recruiter's name fir the new grad role/entry level role at CVS health?

quaint talon
#

ayo get in here we listening to bangers

obsidian crater
#

homeboy your link don't work

quaint talon
#

idk mang

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that's on discord

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them devs lacking

hot sail
#

Is it true grad programs have gotten more competitive since hiring slowed? One of my friend's mentioned it and I'm not sure if he's full of shit.

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Even PHD ones?

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I should have added that for context.

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I know they are desperate for masters cause student body counts have been dropping

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so their cash flow has tanked

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Yeah I feel PHD stats are super hard to get a handle on since so few people even apply for that

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The guy said something about all the international students who were going to FAANG were likely going to PHD programs to wait stuff out making it more competitive

prisma flax
#

Nah phd depends on the professor, unless they are passionate no one’s gonna take phd just to wait for better market

#

People who go to faang are trying to get job wherever they can and later on move to faang

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Lol fastest is 4 years if you speedrun

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Usually 5-6 years

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I am surrounded by phd folks in my uni

hot sail
grizzled bronze
hot sail
#

ohhh interesting. so maybe the ugy is

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so maybe the guy* was talking bs

prisma flax
hot sail
#

truuuueeeee

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Thanks for the info btw you two

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appreciate it

#

always interesting getting some more clarity in this weird market

obsidian crater
#

lmao why did Techie leave

prisma flax
#

yea my friends who are doing phd are working 14 hours each fkg day

hot sail
prisma flax
#

just do research and repeat

obsidian crater
#

what

hot sail
#

Nah

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thought about it but the time cost if things go bad are too high for me

#

im a graduating undergrad

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got a decent job lined up

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not glamorous

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but in this market I'll take anything

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I just have a lot of people I know who are going for it

prisma flax
#

finding your problem statement and being passionate and willing to continue that for so many years is fkg difficult

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me?

obsidian crater
#

I considered a PhD

hot sail
#

For programming I feel the payoff just isn't there monetarily unless you love it

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the phd i mean

obsidian crater
#

But I don't want to go into research without going into industry first

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Cause I've seen PhD students

lilac siren
#

good luck my friends

obsidian crater
#

They're miserable generally

#

Exhausted

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No money

hot sail
#

I feel it's way different for bio/physics people

obsidian crater
#

Cause they need it

hot sail
#

where to do the job they need it unless they wanna be bottom rank forever

prisma flax
#

PHD is for research labs than only it's worth it

hot sail
obsidian crater
#

I TA'd for undergrads

#

It's not TAing that sucks

#

It's grading

#

I had to read like 40 proofs a week and grade

hot sail
#

oh god. I can only imagine

obsidian crater
#

Reading algorithm proofs too

hot sail
#

imagine being a freshmen coding TA. Trying to catch plagarized code

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with chat gpt out

obsidian crater
#

MOSS exists

prisma flax
#

students are way too creative during exams they write some bs and expect the grader to understand

obsidian crater
#

Also TAs don't have to catch plagarism

#

That's more of a professor job

hot sail
prisma flax
#

after seeing those I improved my way of writing answers

obsidian crater
#

I caught plagarism once because some dude just submitted someone else's old proof with the old TA's feedback on the PDF

hot sail
#

Rip

prisma flax
#

lmao I saw people submitting each other assignment without name change or have their info in first page

obsidian crater
#

lmao

hot sail
#

that is impressive courage on their part....

obsidian crater
#

My friend is aPhD student

#

The worst part is they make her TA for courses she hasn't taken

hot sail
#

why?! Is the labor shortage that bad?

obsidian crater
#

Like TAing for a class she didn't take at this university so she doesn't really know the professor's style

#

Well not a lot of people become PhD students

#

Because PhD students cost money unlike normal students

#

They are paid like $33K a year or something

#

yeah

hot sail
obsidian crater
#

depends on uni I think

hot sail
#

Plus likely more overtime than most normal jobs

obsidian crater
#

But mine pays around that ballpark

prisma flax
#

I got paid to get my master's💀

obsidian crater
#

That's uncommon

hot sail
obsidian crater
#

My uncle got paid to do his MS when he was working at some wall street bank

hot sail
#

I hear they do that for MBA's as well

obsidian crater
#

Lucky dude went from no name Indian college to CMU because company brand name

swift falcon
#

another night another day without a job offer smh

hot sail
#

Something about tech managers being hard to find at the time

swift falcon
#

I have to go into work tomorrow

#

to change my password

prisma flax
#

nah for me it's actually the RA paying me

swift falcon
#

because it’s fucking impossible to do it vis remote desktop

#

40 minute commute

obsidian crater
#

wtf

hot sail
obsidian crater
#

A sysadmin can't change your password?

swift falcon
#

it’s my direct boss

obsidian crater
#

rip

#

well mane

swift falcon
#

and I feel awkward saying “bro can u change my password pls i forgot to change it before it expired”

obsidian crater
#

The most I can do is hit you up with a good playlist

swift falcon
#

aiight hmu

prisma flax
#

shit that sucks man

obsidian crater
#

Synthwave

swift falcon
#

I used to be able to reset my own password but they took away that right, I can do literally anyone elses outside if IT though lol

obsidian crater
#

no

swift falcon
#

what is techie approved

obsidian crater
#

It's my crush's playlist 😅

swift falcon
obsidian crater
#

It's actually good

#

I have good taste in music

swift falcon
#

egirl?

obsidian crater
#

No

swift falcon
#

girly pop?

#

soft girl?

obsidian crater
#

Neither

swift falcon
#

cottage core?

obsidian crater
#

Aerospace engineering

swift falcon
#

mentally ill?

obsidian crater
#

who knows

#

She is from WI

swift falcon
#

oh god

#

mentally ill it is

obsidian crater
swift falcon
#

we’re all mentally ill here

obsidian crater
#

Lots of booze

#

I heard

swift falcon
#

sad af tbh

#

alcoholic

hot sail
#

Third highest bar to supermarket ratio in the coutnry

swift falcon
#

ty for playlist I will fr listen to it in da drive in tomorrow

swift falcon
#

that’s canadian

#

i want to try yebisu

autumn jolt
swift falcon
#

i don’t drink beer

#

i just want to try it with ramen

#

and see if it goes well

obsidian crater
#

you'll see what this name means

swift falcon
#

i can do abt 2 sips of beer and call it a day

autumn jolt
hot sail
#

Third decently sized bank this year

obsidian crater
#

Risk managers are supposed to calculate risk and advise the bank to make good assessments

#

Clearly some Sr. Risk Managers at First Republic did not

#

The big ones you mean

#

The medium ones all get eaten up by the big 4

swift falcon
#

who’s da big four

#

citi, chase wells fargo and bmo?

#

?

#

oh

obsidian crater
#

JP, BoA, Citi, Wells according to Wiki

swift falcon
#

see im too middle class to even know jpm is a bank

obsidian crater
#

Never had a chase card?

swift falcon
#

and golden ball sacks

obsidian crater
#

oh yeah some dude at SVB literally was working at Lehman

swift falcon
hot sail
#

I had a professor who worked at AIG lol. Lehmans's partner in falling from grace

hot sail
obsidian crater
#

yeah

#

Their CFO

hot sail
#

All I found was this one

obsidian crater
swift falcon
#

bros fr have you ever watched better call saul and wondered if you could do some crime?

hot sail
#

Ah I see subsidary head

swift falcon
#

while living it large?

obsidian crater
swift falcon
#

how does saul get away with it

#

insane

#

he got da gucci

hot sail
#

like*

swift falcon
#

watching last season rn lol

obsidian crater
#

no spoilers

#

but the secret is he has a rat in his butthole teaching him

#

like rattatouille

swift falcon
#

wow

#

did kim put it there?

obsidian crater
#

Not Kim

hot sail
#

Chuck was an Animagus from Harry Potter

obsidian crater
#

It was Chuck

swift falcon
#

it’s the fat guy’s ring that gives him powers mb

#

like the sauron of fraud

#

anyways i want to work at a place like HMM or schweikart

#

bet they got some cool IT set up

#

nice offices

obsidian crater
#

doubt

#

You saw how much paperwork they have

#

I wanna work at a big bank

#

Or Bloomberg tbh

swift falcon
#

bro how you gonna do paperwork as a SWE at a law firm

#

i assume big law firms got SWE right?

obsidian crater
#

They probably have some kind of IT stuff

#

But idk if they build actual software

fossil parrot
#

Is there any Tesla SWE discord server?

swift falcon
obsidian crater
#

rip

#

No SWE @ HHM

quaint talon