I just feel like this visa should have some leverage, it chains a lot
#2023_grads
prisma flax
brave forge
oh ya i guess im in user-stuff I'll have to see what they assign me to. i told them i wanted to do react work though so it should be front-end stuff
brave forge
thanks for the advice. Ya I don't really like it either it's just what i've managed to market myself as. i think I'd like to move to C++/Rust eventually but im still learning in that area. Backend devs also alright but i've only done it with javascript
prisma flax
instead of going with language, go with the field
specific area
I feel like unless we get lucky and get into some team or company doing cutting edge stuff than it's difficult to advance/ create your unique presence
brave forge
ya im working on that. I'm taking a cloud dev class about AWS with my university this term and hopefully by the end of it i can learn enough to do the AWS exam and then get that covered.
i do get access to AWS academy so that might help also
this is a summary from someone that took it
jovial latch
i specifically tried to take a buncha cloud shit in my last semester so i at least had beginner level knowledge on aws n docker n shit
not that its made a difference so far job hunt wise
prisma flax
in my uni in name of cloud they teaching big data
lmao i don't understand what they trynna do
raw echo
Did anyone else just get a kp hackerrank, Lowk the process is hella disorganized this year…
tardy geode
this is a summary from someone that took it
"learn how to use docker for your full stack app" so basically this means dockerizing the app right ? like when you finish building the app , you create a docker file and write docker stuff in it correct?
bold pier
Once you learn it all, you get rejected coz you solved an algo question slower than expected 
tardy geode
Once you learn it all, you get rejected coz you solved an algo question slower t...
i fking hate leetcode so much
neon tide
me learning c# and having c# internships 
autumn iris
dont
product managers make a lot of money
or rather how does that compare to working as a SWE
tardy geode
product managers 
bruh only thing they do is make ppts and set meetings
and write linkedin posts
brave forge
"learn how to use docker for your full stack app" so basically this means docker...
looks like they want us to create a docker container, and use docker compose and orchestration to get the app setup and all the services running like mongodb by following some guides.
autumn iris
2 final interviews (most likely), one is a product manager for AI/DS/ML team at a financial software company and other is data science intern at the biggest insurance company
i checked glassdoor, they both have avg salaries of 160k for both companies
neon tide
also on the layoff chopping block right after recruiters
autumn iris
brave forge
product managers <:Cringe:1040032663882449016>
i know a program manager at paypal that is at my uni he said he would recommend me there lol
autumn iris
the product manager is completely remote
tardy geode
i feel very weird
autumn iris
and company is 100% remote + want to hire with return offer
brave forge
i thought a lot of companies use .NET backends
autumn iris
neon tide
my internship is c# and .NET. I kinda really like it tbh
brave forge
my intern place just uses it and ive never used it before im kinda worried they might make me use it
tardy geode
i mean i graduate in a few days , sad that student life would be over . then i don't have a job which is worrying
autumn iris
wait when u do an internship (last summer), how early do u know
if they would give u a return offer
like applying to full time jobs while ur working ur last internship (december grad)
neon tide
tardy geode
if they would give u a return offer
like a week or two before it ends
autumn iris
brave forge
wait when u do an internship (last summer), how early do u know
hmm if u did an intern last summer i think you'd have known by quite a while ago
just send an email to someone there and ask for any updates
brave forge
i dont like C# because microsoft made it and therefore it's tainted. they also made typescript and that is good though
neon tide
it's what i hoped c++ would be lol
after learning c
and then going to c++ and being like wait this isn't that easy
i think i'd only be limiting if i do another internship in it really
everyone says c# and java are same same. never used java
just microsoft java
experienced people says transition isn't that hard if you focus on it
so many job openings are java tho
it's sad
this summer is c# and next fall is python. not sure what next summer internship will be in
probably don't have the bandwidth to get java or go up to speed
until after masters but by then new grad. idk
tardy geode
i am so burned out i can't even describe
obsidian crater
same homie
tardy geode
i fking cried my heart out yesterday , its too much man
i try so much nothing is working
i took a referal from an EM , dude was interested too . i got a reject within a day
and now the manager is not replying
that shattered me , i had a bit of hopes from it
also i have got rejected numerous times because i am international
obsidian crater
relatable
brave forge
ya that part is frustrating practically feels like discrimination. at least your making much more then ppl from your country could ever do but it certainly takes a ton of rejections to get there
autumn jolt
i fking cried my heart out yesterday , its too much man
I know it's just too frustrating..I cry every alternate days
split igloo
For me, trying not to focus too much on getting a job helped me to get through for the job searching. even if I have to leave the US, it doesn’t degrade my value
autumn jolt
Class of 2023 is the most resilient batch...they are facing difficulties like no one else
livid yew
i fking cried my heart out yesterday , its too much man
Crying helps sometimes
tardy geode
Crying helps sometimes
yea
livid yew
Unfortunately China had to release their virus at the worst possible time
brave forge
Class of 2023 is the most resilient batch...they are facing difficulties like no...
i haven't been around for previous new-grad years, was it always like this or were previoous years really better
tardy geode
cosmic latch
also i have got rejected numerous times because i am international
I pray for you 🫂 may you find a job soon
obsidian crater
2022 was probably better
livid yew
2020 was bad
livid yew
2020 was a cluster fuck
obsidian crater
2020 was covid
livid yew
Yeah COVID was fucked bro
cosmic latch
thank you brother
🫂 I am also an international graduate student, I understand your pain
brave forge
You all know it was planned
used to think it was a conspiracy but so much evidence for it coming out of the wuhan lab and then china locked up the doctors that tried to warn about it. China will never let us know if it was truly from their lab of course
livid yew
People were confused, pussies started staying at home
COVID was fun
3 people I know died
*knew
brave forge
old?
obsidian crater
I thought I was going to die when I got covid
My body has never hurt that bad ever
livid yew
26, 45, 45
brave forge
i might have been immune to it not sure why i never got it
obsidian crater
goddamn
livid yew
Were the ages
obsidian crater
Covid is bad mane
cosmic latch
||a part of me was a bit happy that the population will reduce||
brave forge
been vaccinated like 4 times now
livid yew
I got COVID once or twice
livid yew
||a part of me was a bit happy that the population will reduce||
Same tho
cosmic latch
There aren't enough resources for the amount of people on this planet , sad but true
livid yew
City in afternoon 
cosmic latch
Ooh which city
brave forge
||a part of me was a bit happy that the population will reduce||
not much at the rate india/africa/south america produce babies lol, but i guess they stay in their country so its not as big of a deal
obsidian crater
Philly
livid yew
obsidian crater
south america and india don't really make a lot of babies
cosmic latch
not much at the rate india/africa/south america produce babies lol, but i guess ...
At least Indians dont
brave forge
dont stay in their country lol
cosmic latch
I have no right to speak as I myself am an Indian
cosmic latch
But Almost everyone from my batch is here in US
And even the next batches are preparing to come
obsidian crater
livid yew
Multi racial baby
brave forge
Nah bro I've seen some fine Indians at work
ya mixed indians can be hot
livid yew
brave forge
No grass here
just concrete
livid yew
brave forge
ive kinda always ignored philly as a city i feel like i never see it on the news much
obsidian crater
I see a tree
brave forge
ive also never been there either 👀 kinda want to apply for jobs out there.
obsidian crater
I'm coming tonight at 7
livid yew
brave forge
bring pizza
obsidian crater
livid yew
I'll get beer then
livid yew
Yep
brave forge
isnt august supposed to bring new job listings
obsidian crater
brave forge
the only good new-grad jobs i ever see are government or defense with security clearance lol
obsidian crater
I hope Biden doesn't get re-elected
obsidian crater
He's too old and he's a corporate shill
brave forge
good think I voted for Trump
techie wtf
brave forge
orange man bad mans literally having his vice president testify against him criminally right now
obsidian crater
I want Dems to nominate someone not Biden
brave forge
how bad do u have to screw up to have your own vice president pick turn against u
livid yew
sorry I voted Red the last 2 elections 
livid yew
Hillary is fucked
brave forge
biden did good though with foreign policy
humble heart
livid yew
tbh, I don't actually give a fuck
because me, 1 american, it wont make a diff who is Pres
brave forge
his university loan forgiveness program benefited a lot of educated people
obsidian crater
I don't want Republicans to win
brave forge
except it got frozen but it's the thought that counts
autumn iris
hmm if u did an intern last summer i think you'd have known by quite a while ago
im graduating this year
livid yew
idk my 22% tax isnt that bad
autumn iris
the place i worked with last year didnt give any returns
livid yew
lol
obsidian crater
Because Republicans are unhinged
neon tide
the only good new-grad jobs i ever see are government or defense with security c...
I am very thankful for this as fall back
livid yew
Because Republicans are unhinged
like me
obsidian crater
Yes
livid yew
I never had school loans
brave forge
same
livid yew
prisma flax
i dont think biden runs for the elections
neon tide
C# is like Java but better
All I can say is that as I’m learning it, it just makes sense. Like what I’m doing makes sense. The syntax makes sense. The conventions make sense.
livid yew
scammed my dad out of his money
ornate cliff
i dont think biden runs for the elections
he will
livid yew
I did not qualify for loans, unless I became dependent from parents
urban gulch
who is Biden and can he beat Justin Trudeau?
brave forge
man better pick a better vice president the 2nd time
obsidian crater
brave forge
he's going to croke over and die at some point and we'll have his VP lol
neon tide
man better pick a better vice president the 2nd time
You think he’s not running Kamala again?
livid yew
let me look at last weeks check
brave forge
You think he’s not running Kamala again?
is that how it usually works?
neon tide
Haven’t kept my ear to the ground as much as I have last 2 elections
Was genuine question
neon tide
Usually they run the ticket back
brave forge
idk if presidents keep their VP when they go for reelection i would guess they do
urban gulch
idk if presidents keep their VP when they go for reelection i would guess they d...
that's the pres's choice
brave forge
what yr is election year 2024 ?
prisma flax
lol cally has highest with 30% and all other places ranges from 22-27%
livid yew
I dont try to pay less tax, I just do what people tell me
for example I only got $800 refund 
how u know its 30
prisma flax
I thought florida has state tax
livid yew
who actually learns about that lol
brave forge
guy who pays tax ig
livid yew
I have already paid 9.4k in tax this year
west egret
what do you mean? highest tax bracket for Cali income tax looks like it's only 12.3%?
west egret
I thought florida has state tax
FL, TX and WA are kind of notorious for not having state income tax
livid yew
my base is 112k
tardy geode
i have 0 motivation today
tardy geode
my base is 112k
west egret
@lunar sonnet where are you getting this 12.5% for Cali though
tardy geode
thats sick for philly techie
livid yew
I will probably make 170 base by age 30
bold pier
FL, TX and WA are kind of notorious for not having state income tax
Yeah, and then unresponsive power lines coz no money to repair infrastructure
ornate cliff
I will probably make 170 base by age 30 <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
nah you'll make that next year
your inbox will be wet next week
obsidian crater
livid yew
when is your deportation date?
obsidian crater
Me and offer and bust will get jobs
livid yew
just stay here ILLEGALY 
brave forge
stay at techie apartment
west egret
bruh highest tax rate in Cali is 12.3% and that's for someone making 677k
tardy geode
when is your deportation date?
bruh 
obsidian crater
Yeah nobody else
tardy geode
just stay here ILLEGALY <:sure:1005110951986614342>
i can make myself look like a madman and try for asylum
brave forge
just live in my closet
techie will harbor you from the mean ICE agents
obsidian crater
Go to NYC
livid yew
the closets are pretty spacious
obsidian crater
No ICE allowed there
prisma flax
if get a background verification than can I assume i cleared the interviews?
west egret
bro 677k is not normal lmao
tardy geode
people who are on asylum they get GC in like 3-4 years
obsidian crater
While he plays vidya
prisma flax
ur making a bank
livid yew
4 guys tho 
obsidian crater
just be gay
livid yew
west egret
most would fall in the 9.3% for highest bracket
brave forge
If I can't get anything by then
what if u became a CS teacher
grizzled bronze
I will probably make 170 base by age 30 <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
That's new grad pay, aim higher
tardy geode
I have until July 31
yea roughly same with me too
obsidian crater
I'm asking the startup I interned for a position
brave forge
boot camp teacher typa job
brave forge
wouldn't that count? i dont get how jobs work for h1b or whatever
livid yew
obsidian crater
300K TC is peanuts, that's what I made when I came out of the womb
Bootcamp teacher counts
Just has to be related to field of study
livid yew
brave forge
Bootcamp teacher counts
ok go do that then for like 20/hr
prisma flax
by contract marriage ?
brave forge
oh they have to sponsor u though
errant karma
You are walking down a slippery path
brave forge
and no one would on a low pay job
livid yew
I found a dark web site that gives us citizenship
obsidian crater
livid yew
yall want the link?
livid yew
of course they do
prisma flax
heard stories getting ripped off, they started blackmailing
livid yew
but I spend a decent amount of time in Tor
west egret
seems like a lot of risk still unless a prenup is assumed
brave forge
@lunar sonnet that stuff isn't as easy as a one time payment of 30k, the feds are a step ahead of it. they vet you very hard if your actually going to stay together or if it's just a marriage scam
livid yew
entitled fucker
prisma flax
I found a dark web site that gives us citizenship
let me know, would try it out 💀 jk
livid yew
she is
obsidian crater
I'm just gonna leave the US if I can't get married
brave forge
where are u going to
prisma flax
<@302258014503829515> that stuff isn't as easy as a one time payment of 30k, the...
yea, marriage base gc interview has some weird questions itseems
errant karma
Lol I am looking for green card too
livid yew
I have the FBI on speed dial @obsidian crater
brave forge
dont worry FBI is dumb they couldn't stop a 21 yr old kid from leaking the entire national database on US war efforts and intel on discord for months lol
livid yew
cant say more 
livid yew
Ask them if they can provide a suicide by cop <@106089884585861120> cause I'm so...
that is called murder btw
brave forge
Ask them if they can provide a suicide by cop <@106089884585861120> cause I'm so...
usa does have the best cops for that
prisma flax
livid yew
people calling it "suicide by cop" are just Woke Cali bros
its just plain old fashioned murder
obsidian crater
yeah if I go try do that to Indian cops
They'll just stare or bring out the cane
brave forge
they would slap you and tell you to go drink your tea and chill out
obsidian crater
Indian cops are fat as fuck generally
brave forge
or beat you with a stick until u behave
prisma flax
wth is sucide by cop?
obsidian crater
I could probably beat up most of them
sonic coral
that is called murder btw
wat
livid yew
I mean the act of killing another human is murder right?
brave forge
no
sonic coral
well no there's a diff between murder and manslaughter
livid yew
homicide then?
brave forge
I want to be cremated
same i dont want no bugs nibbling on me
livid yew
graves are a waste of space tbh
prisma flax
💀
livid yew
huh
sonic coral
suicide by cop is when you deliberately make the cops think you're a threat (or are actually a threat because you're so far gone) so they kill you
brave forge
i want to die in outer space and float through space forever
obsidian crater
If they ain't laughing, it's not worth it
frank wedge
suicide by cop is when you deliberately make the cops think you're a threat (or ...
I only know about this from Rick and morty
obsidian crater
Everyone at my funeral be like: 
livid yew
you have to solve a LC hard to get funeral invite @obsidian crater
brave forge
Everyone at my funeral be like: <:KEKW:1028099241006088222>
he got deported
brave forge
if u get deported pls pass on your leetcode knowledge to me since u wont be needing it
prisma flax
lol being deported means leaving the country not like leaving sde roles
obsidian crater
I only solved 2/4 problems last contest
errant karma
They have nothing to lose if they snitch you plus they bag 30k from you
brave forge
why <:worryWeird:1046566050814247012>
it's a show about a boy whose dad probably mated with a deer
pine topaz
what....
obsidian crater
what
brave forge
On a perilous adventure in a post-apocalyptic world, a boy who's half-human and half deer searches for a new beginning with a gruff protector.
actual show description
obsidian crater
That's a haram ass show techie
livid yew
its not what u think
also I aint Muslim
so I dont gotta follow Haram rules
Harem is haram I think?
brave forge
ya that part is bs man, it doesn't make sense why H1b ppl can't just work low pay jobs until they get a job in their career
but the illegals can stay forever
obsidian crater
doesn't work that way
obsidian crater
H1-B is employer sponsored so you can't switch employers
neon tide
It’s annoying it took one of my best friends (Irish dude) like 7 years to get his green card
obsidian crater
If you want a new one you have to find another employer who's willing to file another one and then enter the lottery
I did fuck a white woman
brave forge
It’s annoying it took one of my best friends (Irish dude) like 7 years to get hi...
well tbf u cant hand out green cards like candy it's a permenant residency card
neon tide
just fuck a white woman and get married bro
He did and it still fucking took a long time
livid yew
obsidian crater
👀
neon tide
well tbf u cant hand out green cards like candy it's a permenant residency card
Yeah I know but frustrating still
brave forge
i haven't really ever looked at getting another countries residency but it can be really hard to immigrate from usa to europe if i wanted to, like germany or spain
brave forge
Others can be difficult
ya ive heard u can buy a resort house and get free EU residency or something
neon tide
Yup they’re the easiest to buy property
prisma flax
tbh usa has one of the good immigration policies but few countries have it hard
neon tide
If you can buy property and have masters you are basically set
Almost guaranteed over there to be fine
brave forge
tbh usa has one of the good immigration policies but few countries have it hard
there's so many stories of ppl coming from poor countries and making it pretty successful here, often way more successful then most americans ever will
probably a variety of factors but mostly that they got to work 5x harder to get a chance so obv they perform better with that work ethic
brave forge
he went from africa to canada and then moved here i thought
brave forge
u can get eu citizien if u buy a house in eu?
ya you can if u invest money in those countries
prisma flax
it depends on many things, if a person started tasting results of his hustle than he would hustle to get that same taste
brave forge
certain ones will give u eu residency and then u can go anywhere in eu as a dual citizen or somethin
prisma flax
it's not handing there's ton of things in there, basically can invest in a startup and employees 10 native americans
etc some of these rules
pine topaz
ill eat mcdons everyday
timber rock
u can get eu citizien if u buy a house in eu?
Only in malta and it costs like 700k
prisma flax
damn was it fun ?
pine topaz
daaamm
timber rock
US is the best country if ur rich
prisma flax
roamed throughout eu?
pine topaz
im talkin abt if ur a trust fund kid
brave forge
US is the best country if ur rich
this is the truth so many poor americans hate this country but tbh i think they would be poor anywhere also lol
brave forge
they talk about EU but they have no skills or work ethic it wouldn't matter
prisma flax
US is the best country if ur rich
us is great if you are willing to work hard using your brain
brave forge
ya safety from gang violence already makes it much better then mexico
prisma flax
can live good life by gaining good skills unless medical fees shit on u
timber rock
That has nothing to do with my point lol
obsidian crater
honestly I just got unlucky af
my little bro is a citizen
popped out of womb too early
brave forge
ya i dont really think u can get to a better place in terms of wealth, diversity, and just science and engineering companies then america
timber rock
wat? i didn’t say that
pine topaz
i just like eu bc they hv nice infrastructure
fallow thistle
Guys, I'm currently a MS CS student graduating soon. I just got an offer for 6 month co-op Software QA. My plan is to take the offer for now continue my search until December, hopefully the market is better. Should I take it? My goal is to find a SWE role
west egret
US is the best country if ur rich
Hmm that's pretty subjective. Depends on what you value.
prisma flax
damn I want to try backpacking but it's a distant dream
obsidian crater
take it @fallow thistle
cosmic latch
Guys, I'm currently a MS CS student graduating soon. I just got an offer for 6 m...
I think you should if you dont have anything else in hand rn
pine topaz
no im canada
obsidian crater
take anything you can get
pine topaz
lmao
cosmic latch
At least youll get Opt(assuming youre international)
obsidian crater
I kinda want to move to Canada but...
I've heard Canada is giga expensive and salaries are low
brave forge
I've heard Canada is giga expensive and salaries are low
ya not much going for Canada, basically like America lite
obsidian crater
I'll be a refugee of the climate wars
timber rock
Hmm that's pretty subjective. Depends on what you value.
Definitely subjective but you can pretty much solve most of the shitty parts of living in the US with a bunch of money
west egret
Definitely subjective but you can pretty much solve most of the shitty parts of ...
I mean money solves a lot of problems lol
fallow thistle
Yea that's the only offer I currently have but idk if that would affect my experience when looking for a SWE roles tho
west egret
Money won't guarantee you happiness but it's definitely a lot harder to be happy if you don't have money.
obsidian crater
Looks better than 6 months of unemployment
timber rock
Why are Canadian salaries so low?
American salaries are high
brave forge
only place I've ever been in EU is Istanbul and I guess I'd agree it has such a different vibe from the USA or Asia i can't really place it. I can't see myself living there though
first thing u notice is how tiny everything is and it's hard to get over lol
timber rock
Canadian salaries are pretty good compared to the rest of the western world
cosmic latch
Yea that's the only offer I currently have but idk if that would affect my exper...
Some experience better than no experience
prisma flax
Amsterdam💀
livid yew
fallow thistle
Ok thanks guys 🙏🙏
pine topaz
@obsidian crater 🤷
cosmic latch
and at this point you shouldnt worry about experience , getting a job itself is pretty difficult rn
brave forge
windows update is the worst
microsoft bad
pine topaz
netherlands wa sso beautiful
obsidian crater
Probably just gonna have to fuck off and work some tech bro job in Bangalore
brave forge
and they always say how good netherlands is
until i flex with the USA CS salaries and then they are like u dont really need money here lol
obsidian crater
Isn't Bangalore hot
prisma flax
Hyderabad 💀
obsidian crater
and traffic
brave forge
bangalore india?
cosmic latch
Isn't Bangalore hot
moist , not hot
obsidian crater
cosmic latch
rains a lot
cosmic latch
I'm moving to Bangalore
same
prisma flax
best night life and best food Hyderabad💀
brave forge
i mean the positives with india is if you have a few 100k USD it's pretty easy to live a high life there
cosmic latch
best night life and best food Hyderabad💀
agreed
Im from Hyderabad
do not want to go back without experience though
timber rock
until i flex with the USA CS salaries and then they are like u dont really need ...
Yea I mean the us is just turbo expensive
obsidian crater
I see posts by Indian people on leetcode that make like 35LPA as senior devs. That's kind of nuts honestly.
brave forge
you can literally go to anywhere, do whatever you want, and barely feel the impact on your bank account
prisma flax
if you want degen life mumbai or Delhi
timber rock
I live close to centre in a capital city in europe and my total expenses are less than 1.5k a month
brave forge
It was a mistake coming to Us directly after graduation without job
isnt that every indians dream
obsidian crater
I'm from Pune too holy vased
livid yew
Lego lamp, it's so hot
obsidian crater
cosmic latch
isnt that every indians dream
The dream is just getting money , not the hardships 😂 , and Nobody is willing to offer a job cuz n o experience
livid yew
@obsidian crater you should get a Lego lamp in your apartment
obsidian crater
I always thought Pune was a shithole
brave forge
The dream is just getting money , not the hardships 😂 , and Nobody is willing t...
indian new grads make like $300/mo but it would be worth working there for a few years before moving just for experience so u can land a job in usa easier
obsidian crater
Never really liked it
iron lily
I don't know where to move to mane
Canada
west egret
Lowkey would like to work in another country at one point but it'd also be a massive drop in salary prob
livid yew
Is Pune India?
cosmic latch
indian new grads make like $300/mo but it would be worth working there for a few...
Yeah , I shouldve done that , I came here directly after graduation 😭
obsidian crater
I only miss the food
livid yew
Bangalore is like the only city I know
cosmic latch
I only miss the food
SAME
obsidian crater
Pune is like the 2nd big IT place I think
livid yew
I'm not up on Indian cities
obsidian crater
honestly after I started working out I don't really miss Indian food
cosmic latch
As a vegatarian , I miss Indian food A LOT
west egret
Bangalore is like the only city I know <:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:1014352624335728...
in Maine?
obsidian crater
cause gym bro diets are kind of restrictive
cosmic latch
Theres nothing here except cheese pizza 💀
west egret
oh nvm bangor is in Maine
livid yew
Bangalore is in India
obsidian crater
yeah same thing
cosmic latch
facts
livid yew
I'm not scared of being shot
I saw a murder this morning
obsidian crater
I live like 2 streets from the hood
People over there get shot and robbed
Here? Bing chilling
cosmic latch
WTF
livid yew
It's normal bro
cosmic latch
where do u live
livid yew
Get used to it buddy
prisma flax
damn wt the heck
livid yew
Y'all should be carrying tbh
cosmic latch
fortunately , Ive never heard or experienced such stuff
livid yew
Oh it's every big city
cosmic latch
Boston is FULLL of International students roaming around all the time , pretty safe imo
obsidian crater
Internationals can't buy weapons lel
livid yew
If the TC was shit, would you guys still come to the US?
obsidian crater
I prolly would cause I grew up here so cultural fit is better
pine topaz
no
livid yew
Our schools are trash
obsidian crater
Indian schools are worse mane
cosmic latch
Indian schools are worse mane
💯
obsidian crater
India has two types of schools - the ones where they expect you to grind 24/7, and the ones where the teachers don't even know what they're teaching
tardy geode
If the TC was shit, would you guys still come to the US?
problem is the population in india
livid yew
Do drugs to cope
tardy geode
man its tough to get into FAANG's as compared to here
livid yew
Are drugs illegal there.
tardy geode
also lot of tier culture , like Tier 1 uni Tier 2 and shit
livid yew
Like weed?
obsidian crater
yes lol.
tardy geode
yeah
cosmic latch
problem is the population in india
Yes and the ||nosy relatives||
tardy geode
Yes and the ||nosy relatives||
plus caste system
cosmic latch
plus caste system
YUS
livid yew
Bro I've never been to western Asia
livid yew
Actually I've never been to Asia
obsidian crater
or drug addict
cosmic latch
eh weed is banned in India?
obsidian crater
livid yew
I'm probably gonna be an alcoholic
Nice
cosmic latch
ive seen people do it tho
tardy geode
eh weed is banned in India?
its illegal
swift falcon
what about heroin?
livid yew
2 drinks a day?
cosmic latch
its illegal
oh , I didnt know , college students often take it
obsidian crater
2 drinks an hour
tardy geode
what about heroin?
illegal
obsidian crater
Bro India is a backwards shithole
tardy geode
oh , I didnt know , college students often take it
well you can sneak in and smoke
prisma flax
what about heroin?
super common
obsidian crater
No matter how much people like to cope and seethe
livid yew
swift falcon
lol
obsidian crater
You can't even date people without your relatives or parents judging
cosmic latch
Bro India is a backwards shithole
and if we say that in India , we get called "Anti-natioalists" and trolled
obsidian crater
swift falcon
ezpz
cosmic latch
I'd tell my parents to fuck off
That is not allowed in India
swift falcon
id tell em to eat my ass
livid yew
That is not allowed in India
I don't care. I'd do it anyway
cosmic latch
Heck , even my education stream
obsidian crater
I'll tell them to sugondeez
swift falcon
they said they wont pay my fees If I do fine arts
just do arts bro
prisma flax
this just became a rant hole
livid yew
Bro you guys are suck shelted kids sheesh
cosmic latch
just do arts bro
No money
swift falcon
then u can do heroin
cosmic latch
this just became a rant hole
sorry bout that
livid yew
Freedom
cosmic latch
I didn't come to the US for money
i came for both
obsidian crater
livid yew
What is freedom?
prisma flax
lmao my parents where liberal so no difference for me personally
livid yew
having no nosy relatives around you
Mother fucker, most of my relatives are dead or live hours away
obsidian crater
He pulling out the census
cosmic latch
Technically we are all international
XD
swift falcon
only 3 ppl?
cosmic latch
Does India not have condoms
taboo
obsidian crater
It's hard to move out until you're like 25
cosmic latch
even uttering the word condom is a taboo
obsidian crater
Cause money
cosmic latch
Just love your life
the elders dont let you do that
swift falcon
even uttering the word condom is a taboo
fr?
livid yew
The bible? A bunch of bullshit
cosmic latch
You gotta live by the rules
prisma flax
na parents doesn't allow u to move out if your working in same city
cosmic latch
Then murder all the elders
||Thats why I was a bit happy when covid happened ||
(not sorry)
livid yew
Yep
swift falcon
||Thats why I was a bit happy when covid happened ||
we all was
livid yew
Idk bro I actively defied my parents from a young age
livid yew
Literally didn't give a fuck
obsidian crater
I was hoping for a couple million KOs
livid yew
They paid for my school
prisma flax
bro chill out
obsidian crater
livid yew
obsidian crater
cosmic latch
I wish covid was worse
We battled covid by banging plates
livid yew
obsidian crater
livid yew
obsidian crater
mane don't remind me why I don't ever wanna go back to that shithole
livid yew
Well, India sounds terrible, remind me to never visit
obsidian crater
legit gonna develop psychosis if I go back
livid yew
I'd rather go to North Korea
obsidian crater
ok that's extreme
livid yew
cosmic latch
Well, India sounds terrible, remind me to never visit <:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:1...
The people are , yes but the locations , the food is Something worth visiting India for
obsidian crater
you'd get tortured there
prisma flax
nah india is not so bad
prisma flax
successful in his spirituality trip
obsidian crater
If she's hot, I'd let her torture me
cosmic latch
what happened
cosmic latch
As an atheist, idk about any of that <:WazowskiStare:752943231104188518> <:KEKW_...
same
obsidian crater
My mom wants me to go to some spiritural bullshit
cosmic latch
although my family bans me from being an atheist , I aint living with them rn so who cares
obsidian crater
Cause she thinks I think too negatively
livid yew
my mom has been in deep depression
obsidian crater
cosmic latch
thats also freedom
prisma flax
got scammed 💀
cosmic latch
what the fuck why did they take money
livid yew
got scammed 💀
you thought it was gonna be poor?
obsidian crater
He's from flyover country iirc
obsidian crater
I know techie's name
livid yew
cosmic latch
california?
obsidian crater
I will reveal for a GC
livid yew
prisma flax
obsidian crater
Amazon Records $3.2B Profit Amid Ads Business Expansion, Corporate Layoffs
livid yew
I met a lot of nice people at the office today
a bunch of ADHD having kids lol
too much energy
obsidian crater
it's ok vased
when we go back home
let's grab a drink
Don't think I can pay for another degree
unless my dad sells property
livid yew
How much is a glass of beer in India
prisma flax
2$
obsidian crater
already got an undergrad loan
cosmic latch
How much is a glass of beer in India
Prohibited
paper basalt
beer at yankee stadium was like $14 when i went
livid yew
Lame
cosmic latch
beer isn't banned
by parents
livid yew
Yeah wtf
obsidian crater
in which case just don't live there
livid yew
obsidian crater
yeah
prisma flax
obsidian crater
jagermeister
livid yew
paper basalt
you buy a bottle of jager and it sits on the shelf for 8 years
obsidian crater
I'm trying to get abs
cosmic latch
Idk I don't track my food
same
obsidian crater
around the same calories
livid yew
I just eat when I'm hungry
cosmic latch
oh I eat when i crave something/ something in front of me looks delicious
prisma flax
Am on calorie deficit
cosmic latch
what even is hunger?
cosmic latch
Because I'm giga depressed
🫂
obsidian crater
being fat kinda not good though
cosmic latch
being fat kinda not good though
I was fat before I came to US
Us expenses made me slim
livid yew
I probably weigh like 175 at 5'8
obsidian crater
livid yew
Years of beer and frat parties gave me a good tummy
obsidian crater
I weigh like 162
obsidian crater
I wanna cut to 150 then bulk
livid yew
12 seems like a decent amount
obsidian crater
I used to be 200lbs
paper basalt
lol
obsidian crater
post breakup little caesar's life
livid yew
Time to binge 8 hours of Netflix
obsidian crater
livid yew
Good thing tomorrow is "Work" From home
paper basalt
i checked my commute today for first time, its not bad because the highways branch apart
tucson
its about a 20 minute commute so nb
jump on a highway, listen to some music
scam
livid yew
White Soxs lol
grizzled bronze
@pulsar mural you have GF?
rain patio
grizzled bronze
This has to be satire lmao https://reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/131dyzz/tips_from_the_120k_offer_guy/
late kestrel
ikr i saw that
there is wayyyy too much markup lmaooo
u just know they gonna eat it up lol
ornate cliff
This has to be satire lmao <:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:1014352624335728760> https:...
all that and he didn't even land faang
/s
brave forge
say less
late kestrel
lol looking again this morning and he got completely shit on and he deleted it
what a 180 from just 8 hours ago lol
swift falcon
dang I missed it
brave forge
embodiment of the average CS major god
fossil jewel
damn he deleted
fossil jewel
bless unddidt
swift falcon
tbh some of that stuff is good for new college ppl to hear
it’s just the smarmy pretentiousness that it’s wrapped in
if he left out his TC and the personality/self-help mumbo jumbo the points like “don’t slack off as a freshman” are good
sonic coral
Lol the comment that’s like “don’t you have 9k of credit card debt at 24”
livid yew
livid yew
Product Manager out of college,
autumn iris
they wanted me to be a product manager on both the product team+ AI/ML team because i have a grad degree+ background in ML research
autumn iris
Product Manager out of college, <:hmmge:1085063505213927494>
yeah thats wat i was scuffed about
not sure if it's bad or good
jaunty basalt
There’s literally new grad positing for PM
autumn iris
jaunty basalt
Called APM TPM shit like that
livid yew
what really>
autumn iris
well hopefully i get an offer and decide
livid yew
I guess it makes sense, if you did some biz classes
brave forge
autumn iris
i was originally thinking of PM because, more companies are starting to make AI teams
autumn iris
also i heard pay is good
but my friend told me data scientists make more
also i wouldnt be model creating anymore
west egret
it’s just the smarmy pretentiousness that it’s wrapped in
Yeah there were good points. But they kind of went into it a little too much.
jaunty basalt
but my friend told me data scientists make more
There’s barely any opening for data science
That’s a big reason why I gave up 
autumn iris
idk most of my callbacks atm has only been for ML roles
autumn iris
well im doing internships this summer and graduating end of the year
but i was told these 2 internships want to conver to full time
autumn iris
I was looking in 2020 for data science intern and then gave up
i saw way more DS positions than SWE
jaunty basalt
That’s this year
autumn iris
yeah
jaunty basalt
2020-2022 barely any data science MLE
autumn iris
and only have DS experience, so i kinda go this route
wut
its the other way around
NLP is huge atm
autumn iris
analysts maybe, but scientists/ML roles
still are in demand
if u have experience
i'm just gunna 
for return offer
also i think it depends on a lot of factors
livid yew
Data Anal list?
autumn iris
for ML roles
livid yew
ML
autumn iris
livid yew
autumn iris
it like depends on the company and industry ur in
also its still competitie
isnt SWE super hard atm
i'd rather fight against other grad students than SWE undergrads
its still a big barrier
yeah but way less applicants
most of those jobs have a grad degree as barrier of entry
isnt that the same with swe
i am a grad student
no, that degree is useless af
most DS people are CS/stats/science heavy/etc
unless u really tried hard in ur MS for DS
but the programs i looked at were pretty bad
swift falcon
what is DS
data science?
ouch lol p sure my uni launched a dedicated degree for it last year haha
fallen fox
781,000 h1b petitions this year