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mossy fiber
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I dont know anything about sdetšŸ’€ I just told my gpt4 Im going to have a SDET interview, and followed the outline the gpt gave to me

tardy geode
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i did this business course assignments with chatgpt and scored full points in all of em

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now its straight A in that course

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and not a single minute wasted

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all thanks to the almighty ChatGPT

mossy fiber
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prayge I did all my data mining coursework with gpt, hes really good about those topics

tardy geode
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and prof would comment on it "very well written , awesome"

bold pier
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How do business schools give grades, I got 98.1/100 and still got an A- at NYU Stern PepeHands

grizzled bronze
fallen fox
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does gpt plus give you access to gpt 4?

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it does nvm

mossy fiber
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gpt4 is much smarter than gpt3.5prayge

tardy geode
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i did this and got full marks in that assignment

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with a comment from prof saying "great organization and well written"

bold pier
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I think you should switch field to Promt Engineer, 200k minimum base

tardy geode
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where all i did was this , which took me 3 mins

tardy geode
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there was a role called ChatGPT developer

grizzled bronze
# fallen fox does gpt plus give you access to gpt 4?

GPT-4 is a hypothetical successor to the GPT-3 language model, which is currently the most advanced language model in the world. GPT-3 is a product of OpenAI, a leading artificial intelligence research organization. GPT-3 has achieved significant breakthroughs in natural language processing (NLP), including generating coherent and contextually appropriate text based on input prompts.

Recently, there has been some confusion about whether GPT-Plus, a new language model developed by EleutherAI, gives users access to GPT-4. To clarify, GPT-Plus is not GPT-4, and it does not provide direct access to GPT-4.

GPT-Plus is an open-source language model developed by a community of volunteers led by EleutherAI, a nonprofit research organization. GPT-Plus is designed to be a more transparent and accessible alternative to GPT-3, which is proprietary and only available through licensing agreements with OpenAI.

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GPT-Plus is based on the same architecture as GPT-3 and uses a similar training process. However, it has some key differences that make it distinct from GPT-3. For example, GPT-Plus is trained on a different dataset, which includes a more diverse range of sources than the dataset used to train GPT-3. Additionally, GPT-Plus has been fine-tuned to perform better on certain tasks, such as generating code and understanding scientific concepts.

While GPT-Plus is not the same as GPT-4, it is possible that the knowledge and insights gained from developing GPT-Plus could be used to inform the development of GPT-4 in the future. Both GPT-3 and GPT-Plus are based on transformer architecture, which has been shown to be effective for NLP tasks. However, there are many challenges to developing a language model as advanced as GPT-4, and it is unclear when or if such a model will be developed.

In conclusion, GPT-Plus is not GPT-4, and it does not provide direct access to GPT-4. However, it is a promising open-source alternative to GPT-3 that has the potential to advance the field of NLP and contribute to the development of future language models. While it remains to be seen whether GPT-4 will ever be developed, the ongoing research and development of language models like GPT-Plus is likely to continue to drive progress in the field of artificial intelligence.

tardy geode
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integrate chatgpt into discord

bold pier
tardy geode
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GPT-4 is a hypothetical successor to GPT-3, the most advanced language model in the world, developed by OpenAI. Recently, there has been confusion about whether GPT-Plus, a new open-source language model developed by EleutherAI, provides access to GPT-4. However, GPT-Plus is not GPT-4 but a more accessible alternative to GPT-3, based on a different dataset and fine-tuned for certain tasks. Although GPT-4's development is uncertain, ongoing research and development of language models like GPT-Plus are likely to drive progress in the field of artificial intelligence.
bold pier
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Now summarize this ratio,

tardy geode
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šŸ’€

cloud zinc
brazen sail
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Has anybody completed the starlink beam take home

jovial rain
brazen sail
pallid sapphire
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Need some advice.

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I want to connect with an SDE manager of a company

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I want to connect in the hopes that they can eventually help me get my foot in the company

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What should the connection message be to not sound desperate??

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I'm v clueless

fallen fox
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pls gib jobe

pallid sapphire
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Ha ha

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But srsly

obsidian crater
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Gib job and post his IP as blackmail

quaint talon
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First part requires you to know how to change reference frames

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I totally over thought it after my initial solution didn't pass all test cases

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i should have just tried reversing order of loops

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Or honestly using a different language

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i gave up on the greedy approach and thought of how to solve it optimally using network flow

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but ran out of time implementing it

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Got rejected lol

autumn iris
tardy geode
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anyone got their ead?

obsidian crater
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what date you pick?

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I'm picking july 31 if I don't get an interview on thursday

tardy geode
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i did not yet

pure mauve
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Lmfao spacex one is so long had to just brute force that shit

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Oh I had one with connecting satellites in some 3d grid or something idk

remote tree
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Hey guys ,
I’m graduating this December and looking for jobs .
I have a internship in a small startup for this summer, it’s based on Python .
Can you people guide me on how to crack a full time job before December .
Any inputs from very basic routine to anything specific are welcome .
Also guide me on hiring timelines of the companies .

nocturne obsidian
meager terrace
# remote tree Hey guys , I’m graduating this December and looking for jobs . I have a internsh...

if you've been applying with the same resume and it isn't working. It's time to change the resume to add more interesting projects. Have a resume that has projects that are specifically catered to the job listing. What you can do is make a folder in your file directory called "resumes" and within that add a bunch of folders with specific tech stacks and put your catered resume in there. That way it can be named normally without have a duplication error. Plus it keeps it organized!

ornate oxide
ornate cliff
jaunty storm
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I’m not gonna let them slip past me so easy this time.

swift falcon
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took them like 3 and a half weeks to reject me

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just tell me no up front smh

static quarry
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ā€œWe decided to go with a better candidateā€ is going to be on my grave

west egret
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Could be worse. Walmart waited 3-4 months to reject after final. KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

rain patio
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prayge to get my offer this week

late kestrel
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hmmm

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what do you provide

quiet flame
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I have been practicing hackerrank questions for a while, and think I can reasonably complete a medium level question, are there any companies that use hackerrank for their process?

late kestrel
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most use hackerrank as a platform for the OA, but in my exp, the questions are more likely found on lc

obsidian crater
frozen thistle
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What's interview process at Neuralink for Full time SWE like? Leetcode + assignment?

brave forge
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na go to midwest and you can find ppl

fallen fox
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bungie oa stinks

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smh all this effort and those mfers gonna ghost me

swift falcon
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what do u bring to the table?

obsidian crater
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you got a wife lol

swift falcon
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it will work out

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just truss me bro

warm olive
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Lol

static quarry
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Spacex reject after live coding interview (my fault)
John Deere cancel technical interview 5 minutes before
Epic reject after recorded coding OA (I thought I did well??)
HCSC cancel after 3 phone calls (weirdos ngl)
Tegus reject after pass 30 minute behavioral -> 75 minute live coding interview -> 75 minute live debugging challenge -> 30 minute behavioral
Vanguard cancel before final```
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unlucky!

crisp zenith
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Would applying to sdet be worth it if I'm currently struggling to get a swe role? Feels like it'll be harder to transition to swe afterwards.

timber rock
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one job as an sdet will not permanently bar you from non-sdet roles for eternity

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yes but the simple solution to that is to apply to junior non sdet roles, and if you really think it's holding you back then you can just take it off your resume

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but the person with 6 months exp as an sdet will come out ahead of the person with 0 months exp in nothing always

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it's ofc different if youre trying to go from senior sdet to senior swe or something like that

crisp zenith
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thanks, appreciate the advice!

timber rock
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i would argue that sdet is way more relevant experience for normal swe jobs than data analytics is

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but yes, if you can get a proper swe job then go for that. but taking an sdet job temporarily is not bad

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ya but my point is the guy is struggling to get an swe role rn and 6 months of sdet experience is better than 6 months of unemployment

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assuming he will keep applying and not stay in sdet for years

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yeah the biggest thing to consider is do you have enough time to job prep well and keep interviewing while working full time

timber rock
fallen fox
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im doing an it job rn after 3 months of unemployment

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hopefully i dont get pigeonholed

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jobs sorta braindead so i grind lc at work

livid yew
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What is SDET

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Oh just a QA engineer lol

iron lily
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i think SDET is more than just QA

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pretty sure they wear both hats

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dev and qa

obsidian crater
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mane I got rejected from an internship

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they didn't even give me a technical interview

livid yew
native crow
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anyone here graduating in Fall 2023 semester, wasnt sure when applications open for Winter 2024 openings

native crow
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Do you think that August is early enough?

ornate cliff
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Some even start in July LMAO

mossy fiber
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I started looking for a job last May, and I'm still unemployedWazowskiStare

obsidian crater
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Same

outer radish
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cause tbh last sept wasn't too bad in terms of like companies posting at least

mossy fiber
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yea keep changing my resume

late kestrel
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yeahhhh last august/sept pretty much every company was sending out interviews outside of big tech

mossy fiber
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my resume suck last year

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basically add more experience, keywords & use jack's template

outer radish
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just for these mfs to lay off the next month

late kestrel
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they even asked 2x lc hards and mental math tests for my janitor job Sadge

lament kindle
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Where have we come šŸ˜“

mossy fiber
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they asked system design for QA role's interviewWazowskiStare

obsidian crater
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well I started applying in like June

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When the hiring freezes started

swift falcon
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I got onsite interview tomorrow. I'm not prepared WazowskiStare

obsidian crater
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Idk if they were hiring for 2023 new grads in June 2022

swift falcon
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if someone asks me what SOLID is i will cry

timber rock
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who ready for 2026 hiring season

late kestrel
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tbf bb's app wasnt public till like early september i dont think

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idr when they officially put it out on their site

obsidian crater
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I think I did a few OAs then

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Got ghosted

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Then fire nation attacked and we are the slaves of Ozai

mossy fiber
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WazowskiStare one time they asked me to implement a singleton class and I provided 3 solutions and they rejected me.

obsidian crater
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welp

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it's pretty doomed now

teal jackal
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I'm still at the "I failed the behavioral" stage of interviewing
for sure I'm a weak candidate when it comes to personality fit and charisma
I do better as a technical monkey

swift falcon
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i was going to say something

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but then I realized, I too have failed behavioral ig

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only got to 1st round intro interviews

teal jackal
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I'm autistic, sheltered, not really any interesting life experiences, very neckbeard-y in terms of life habits, etc

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Yeah I'm not ashamed of who I am

outer radish
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im the opposite

obsidian crater
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I'm a grass toucher

outer radish
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gotta be a technical monkey

teal jackal
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but it sucks that these factors contribute towards me having a hard time finding a job

outer radish
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  • the behavioural skills that makes me a sophisticated neanderthal
timber rock
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i've failed behavioural twice lol

obsidian crater
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mane it's kinda over now

timber rock
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optiver asked me "what would happen if you walked into a room and there were 5 clones of you in the room and you were given a task"

obsidian crater
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begging my parents to pay for grad school

timber rock
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like what

obsidian crater
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or I'm gonna be jobless for a while

swift falcon
teal jackal
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i feel like the answer they want to that question is somewhere along the lines of

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"all 5 versions of me would work cohesively in a team"

obsidian crater
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pog

swift falcon
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we would all wait for someone else to take leadership, sigh and then everyone would take the lead, then we'd all get mad/resentful at each other

prisma flax
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I think i just fucked up a normal introductory interview

mossy fiber
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ask chatgpt the questions such as "why company", its answer is pretty good

prisma flax
teal jackal
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most people arent slick enough for it

timber rock
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chatgpt is ass at leetcode

teal jackal
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and even when someone does use chatgpt for interviews theyre probably not as slick as they think they are

timber rock
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if youre gonna cheat on an onsite you might as well just look up the question on google instead of asking chatgpt

prisma flax
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Prompt engineering with how question works can write the sol in 5 mins

late kestrel
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palantir, bb, c1, the holy trinity of early fall 2022 interviews

prime palm
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bloombergy and palantir

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both reject at final stages

teal jackal
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memories

prime palm
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hurt so bad

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😭

timber rock
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"my recruiter said bloomberg is done"

swift falcon
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So I told them my solution and then we moved on to q&a about a silly broad range of topics from trivia definitions to micro services and they just kept randomly ping ponging between each other it was clear there wasn’t a plan or any cohesion between the two of them. In the end they ghosted me but thankfully the recruiter got back to me and it sounds like they weren’t looking to pay what they offered.
this is listed as an interview experience on glassdoor for company I'm interviewing tomorrow

prime palm
mossy fiber
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bb hired a lot i think, but my resume was shit last yearhugs

teal jackal
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so sad i got resume reject from bloomberg my first application, then my second application got rejected after screening interview(pipeline was extremely clogged by then)

late kestrel
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simply get luckier with your recruiter being faster lol

timber rock
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i got to the phone for bb then got slapped

late kestrel
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well SOME of us dont go to decent schools kekw

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the real real hack was having a recruiter reach out on linkedin AShawke_smile

south sable
teal jackal
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campus hiring events where they actually interview in person are a cheat code

late kestrel
west egret
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I rejected their power day for you

south sable
mossy fiber
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Raytheon reached to me twice, but I am not citizenšŸ’€

south sable
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are they really gonna care whether I'm a student at that school?

late kestrel
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uhhh fair enough i guess but i feel when they look at your resume

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and you dont go to the school theyre at

teal jackal
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oh yeah I also have a really strong stutter when I'm forced to talk in serious situations

south sable
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yeah, i know - it's really just more about introducing yourself

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i mean unless school is really that big of a factor to them

prisma flax
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If you can get access to the fair, give it a shot there’s no harm in that

teal jackal
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I think T10 cs schools get a lot of these in person itnerviewing opportunities

prisma flax
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Its all luck

teal jackal
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non-t10 students can do what t10 students do, but a non-t10 student has to work harder to compensate

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and i dont like working hard sunglassCowboy

hoary fern
teal jackal
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Probably going to buy a small home with a small yard and try to get financial independence

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I see myself burning out someday

timber rock
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day in the life of an unemployed cs grad

hoary fern
brave forge
teal jackal
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or buy it in rural idk, guatemala?

hoary fern
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oh lol it was 8 mo internship not those measly 3 month ones

west egret
late kestrel
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you can be neighbors with hickie babymikesmile

swift falcon
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ok bros I cut my fingernails, I should be prepared for interview tomorrow

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ready to ace it

west egret
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intern as CEO -> buy house in Bay Area

obsidian crater
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Be a CEO -> buy an island

hoary fern
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could realistically buy an island after a long internship

brave forge
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that island is in canada and probably frozen over most of the year

timber rock
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comes with free slaves

brave forge
teal jackal
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Yeah Nova Scotia islands are cheap since they're hard to get to

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You can't build anything on them

swift falcon
teal jackal
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A lot of states have strong protection for squatters too

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You can't just tell the cops to kick them out

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Gotta do eviction process nowadays

swift falcon
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can u be a beach bum and software engineer

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van life or sth

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big if true

neon tide
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hardest behavioral i've ever gotten was some stupid bullshit that was: you're driving in a car down the highway, 100 miles from civilization in any direction with your best friend, your car only has 2 seats. You come by an uncovered rest stop that has the woman of your dreams and a sick old lady. It's pouring rain, and if you don't get that sick old lady to the hospital she probably will get pneumonia. There is no way for more than 2 people to fit in the car. If you leave you will never see the woman of your dreams again. What do you do?

late kestrel
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simply use light mode

swift falcon
late kestrel
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youre gonna go crazy one day anyways dont delay the inevitable

neon tide
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the correct answer is let best friend and old lady take the car and stand in the rain with the woman of your dreams

neon tide
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yeah this was for a non-swe job like a decade ago, i can't remember what i said but it involved save old lady and got the job. They told me perfect answer after

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i was like this is such a waste of interview time

swift falcon
timber rock
neon tide
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live first round interview is great. fuck OAs

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i have had twice that i would have 100% failed an OA with the same questions but got passed on to next round cause live interviewer was watching and liked my thought process

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fuck OAs

swift falcon
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im going to raw dog interview tomorrow

brave forge
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my life

swift falcon
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the audacity

rain patio
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Has anyone gone through the ixl technical phone interview?

hot sail
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Is hiring for software engineers slowing down?

static quarry
livid yew
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she is bad team mate

hot sail
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Is all of it slowing down or are there are parts that are still ok for entry level hiring?

obsidian crater
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It's dead

static quarry
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Entry level hiring is specifically really bad right now

obsidian crater
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If you're entry level basically nobody hiring except defense

static quarry
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This is what vanguard sent to me, i was supposed to get a final round interview

obsidian crater
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Seniors are having a hard time but there are openings

static quarry
hot sail
serene nymph
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i mean, in this market it doesn't make sense to hire new grads over sdes with 1-3 yoe

static quarry
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if you are international and entry level, its going to be extremely hard

hot sail
obsidian crater
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Defense is fine

serene nymph
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im genuinely looking into grad schools now

obsidian crater
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same

serene nymph
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even though i really didnt want to/have the money

obsidian crater
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I'm international + new grad => 🪢

serene nymph
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beats not doing anything all day

fallen fox
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im thinking about putting in a fake internship

static quarry
serene nymph
hot sail
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Good luck to y'all with that

obsidian crater
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I don't think internships count

serene nymph
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people with faang internships arent getting anywhere

obsidian crater
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Most employers don't really count internships as experience

hoary fern
hot sail
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At this point I'm just jamming on random projects to boost my resume...

serene nymph
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i had a bad feeling about graduating lol

serene nymph
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id say specialize in ee/ce concepts

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theres some jobs there who will happily take you

obsidian crater
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projects only matter if your resume is empty

livid yew
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I mean projects can help

hot sail
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I've got an internship but that's about it

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that and my projects

livid yew
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but 9/10 times the recruiter and engineers won't check your GH profile

obsidian crater
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^

livid yew
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I WISH THEY WOULD

serene nymph
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^

livid yew
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fuckers

serene nymph
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particularly at big companies

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maybe startups will

livid yew
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I interviewed a guy yesterday

fallen fox
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my github is a shithole anyway

livid yew
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I checked his github

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was good

hot sail
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I wonder if it's better nowadays to learn weirder languages like Scala/Go/Julia to standout

livid yew
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every piece of code I have ever written is in github

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including college course code worryWeird

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pretty sure I wasn't supposed to post HW lol

hot sail
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I strive for that level of documentation and archiving

obsidian crater
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About to apply to an ML role

obsidian crater
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Only ML experience I have is coursework hmmge

livid yew
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Scala is getting some hype here

autumn iris
obsidian crater
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I know Scala and it's quite nice

livid yew
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we use Go A LOT

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like a lot lot

hot sail
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Oh ok. I just wondered since Scala doesn't seem common for entry levels

obsidian crater
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Idk why it didn't kill Java yet

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Java is gross

livid yew
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go is poggers

obsidian crater
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Go is nice

livid yew
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its got a weird syntax, coming from a JS dev

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but so be it

serene nymph
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i dont want my professors to hunt me down bc of posting hw on my gh lol

hot sail
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Most other people I know use Javascript/C++/Python/random app language so that is good to know

serene nymph
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thats the last thing i need

livid yew
serene nymph
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they can take your degree if they care lol

obsidian crater
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JS syntax isn't that weird

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C++ has some horrific syntax

hot sail
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Yeah scala is fun. Wanted to find data engineering positions with it, but I feel they want data engineers with a few years exp

livid yew
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yeah we are running Java 17

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so pretty recent

serene nymph
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i had a professor who copyrighted her material and warned us not to ever make it public lol

livid yew
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DogGiggle our prod systems are JS

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all 5 of them

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wanna see a 4 level promise chain

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was not my choice lol

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we are going to convert to Go later this year

hot sail
livid yew
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but thats an effort for 1 person

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I've scoped most of the conversion,

obsidian crater
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#include <iostream>
using namespace std;

void foo() {
  throw ([&](void***){});
}
int main()
{
  foo();
  return 0;
}

Just gonna drop this gore

livid yew
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C++ I think

obsidian crater
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yes

livid yew
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Yeah I will let other people get paid for C++

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wont touch it

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I actively turn down C++ jobs

obsidian crater
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C++ isn't that bad

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It's more bad than that

livid yew
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I use Java, Kotlin, Python, Go, TypeScript, JavaScript daily

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all in one 8hr day

obsidian crater
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wish I had a job

autumn iris
rain patio
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Or is it mainly LinkedIn?

obsidian crater
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nobody hits me up

timber rock
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class of 2023 gonna be unstoppable

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what doesnt kill you makes you stronger

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šŸ˜Ž

obsidian crater
static quarry
obsidian crater
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I think that's just copium honestly

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tbh there isn't really a lot to learn when the market has no job postings open

west egret
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That's the best way to view it IMO

obsidian crater
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I don't want to be one of those gloom and doomers but people have said my resume is fine and I can't even get OAs

timber rock
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me too but i didnt learn and just got lucky lol

west egret
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Rejections happen. If you got something from it, it wasn't a complete waste of time.

livid yew
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ascend zen

prisma flax
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it only happens when you get multiple interviews

livid yew
west egret
timber rock
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2 of my offers only had behavioural interviews and the other one i managed to get a sub-optimal 90% solution and somehow got the offer

livid yew
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@obsidian crater curious, are you on a visa or anything?

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I usually give 90% solutions

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I dont think I have ever gotten a interview question completly right

obsidian crater
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yeah unfortunately

livid yew
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I see

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so you eventually get booted?

obsidian crater
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pretty much

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I'm allowed 90 days of unemployment

west egret
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tbh I'm pretty sure I had less than 10 interviews across two seasons

obsidian crater
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So I got 90 days after july 31 before the boot

west egret
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out of 300 applications total

tacit grove
livid yew
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rip

tacit grove
obsidian crater
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My friends who graduated last year got jobs pretty easily tbh

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But last year was different

prisma flax
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Undergrad in US is shit expensive for internationals

obsidian crater
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yeah I've been considering grad school

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I got admission to grad school at my uni

prisma flax
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try consulting if it doesn't work out than do masters

obsidian crater
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Idk where I can get in lol

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My GPA is not stellar and I don't have publications

prisma flax
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many uni accept master's without publications

obsidian crater
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how

prisma flax
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Just apply and show case your interests and why that university

autumn iris
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i had a 3.2 gpa no publications, at a t5 CS

prisma flax
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get in touch with a prof if you really interested to do some research

autumn iris
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didnt need to take GRE

prisma flax
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GRE became a scam now

obsidian crater
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interesting

prisma flax
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back in day it used to have value, people started cheating a lot

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yea scope of things and your understanding changes a lot

obsidian crater
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I think my GPA is a weak point though honestly

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No

prisma flax
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honestly your it doesn't depend on only your gpa

obsidian crater
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I'll probably get > a 3.0 this semester unless I really shit on one class

prisma flax
#

it depends on your course gpa

livid yew
#

DogGiggle my gpa is less than 3

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course gpa? whats that

prisma flax
#

like course grade

obsidian crater
#

my GPA starts out ass early into college

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then gets better

livid yew
#

i mean i just look at the total number at the end of the semester dude

obsidian crater
#

I got a 3.7 last semester

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but w/e

livid yew
#

I never got above a 3.4

prisma flax
#

if you wanna do master's in Machine learning than stats, machine learning those course grade matter's a lot than overall

livid yew
#

I don't ever plan on going into ML

prisma flax
#

I basically means your course score

livid yew
#

not for me

prisma flax
#

it's just a example

livid yew
#

gladge I will let the nerds do ML

prisma flax
#

market is flooded with ML

livid yew
#

Masters, I would get like a biz degree or something

#

not a CS masters

#

that is just dumb in my opinon

prisma flax
#

unless in very big name brand

livid yew
#

I want to start a company tho

obsidian crater
#

My plan was to work for like 3 years

livid yew
#

like when im 40 or so

obsidian crater
#

Then get a master's degree in stats/finance to try to get a quant job

late kestrel
#

boomer

livid yew
#

40 is when I would be settled in at my job

prisma flax
#

yea by 40 with all responsibilities it get's tough

livid yew
#

I aint one of those retire before 50 nerds

#

fuck that shit

prisma flax
#

you guys wants to end up as IC?

livid yew
#

yea

obsidian crater
#

what is IC?

livid yew
#

Integrated Circut

obsidian crater
#

pog

prisma flax
#

l5? or l6?

timber rock
livid yew
#

Senior for us is L5

#

DevOps is def a bunch of IC work too

#

I am currently L2, Senior is L5

obsidian crater
#

I see

prisma flax
#

gotcha

livid yew
#

I apply to whatever roles open at big tech

#

I will join FAANG at a downlvl if needbe

prisma flax
#

Amazon IC lies between in odd space of l5-l6

#

starting IC's

livid yew
#

?

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a L3 is a IC

#

lol

#

huh

prisma flax
#

Neetflix pays out in all cash

obsidian crater
#

I'm gonna try to get research experience to boost my grad school app

livid yew
#

yeah the TC at netflix is nice

prisma flax
#

and all cash

livid yew
#

otherwise, its just a job

#

I could buy a new car if I got netflix

#

once I started doing SWE for the money, my mindset changed

#

promo as fast as possible lol

obsidian crater
#

Anyone here have research experience?

prisma flax
#

cool man, that's some crazy shit

#

bay area started interview process any idea?

#

two technical and two system design?

#

today I did a round and they told we follow standard bay area process, and like 4 more rounds 2 technical and 2 gonna be discussion and get to know stuff

#

was confused what the heck is discussion

obsidian crater
#

wait but I'm honestly confused

#

How can I get into a t20 cs school with just a 3.0 lol

#

There has to be more

prisma flax
#

how tuff is it to deal with audio files for DE?

obsidian crater
#

Inshallah I will get a job so I can pay for t20 cs grad school 🤔

prisma flax
#

GRE became useless, it's all scam

#

no I am just getting to know stuff about things the company i interview do

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ohh gotcha

#

never touched a audio/video files

livid yew
#

discussion about something

prisma flax
#

so for audio cleaning the files and quality checks all those how it's gonna work?

prisma flax
#

gotcha it just flew from my mind for now gonna dig some up for better understanding

#

yea, but trying to get a better sense of things to talk in an interview

#

I never tried/worked with audio/video it just keeps bugging me, just to build up some confidence gonna see and look up how to do things

#

if i get that job yes

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it's all about the audio

#

Sure would do

#

Damn I never know preparing for interview would clear so much stuff from your brain, it just fills the gaps in many areas

#

I did that and felt shoot myself by asking all weird question involving the audio files( asked just bcuz I was curios )

#

yea gotcha

chilly burrow
cloud zinc
#

for positions offering remote work, would it be wise to mention your willingness to relocate due to state tax laws?

south sable
#

where do you work now?

rain patio
#

this is after the final interview

#

L or W? prayge

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why cant they just say it in the email

#

ffs

brave forge
#

Most likely, he wants to give you an offer on a call

rain patio
#

just had the call

#

I GOT THE OFFER thanospog thanospogthanospogthanospogthanospogthanospog

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FIRST OFFER IN 4 FKING MONTHS

#

HELLA YAAAA

#

FINALLY

brave forge
#

Awesome šŸ‘ you made it

fallen fox
#

nvm

swift falcon
#

interview in 30 min

autumn iris
#

just got a rejection from the interview i did on tuesday

swift falcon
autumn iris
#

i have a final interview tomorrow too

swift falcon
#

let the floodgates of job offers open on us all

autumn iris
west egret
obsidian crater
brave forge
fresh mango
#

Y’all think all the LinkedIn reach out and cold messaging actually does something?

#

I am certain whoever I message would already have a flooded inbox to begin with

#

Recruiter/manager whoever

autumn iris
#

told me i'll hear back very soon, final interview next week if i make it

pine topaz
#

Recessions usualy last 11 months, we are halfway there prayge

#

Fat stack TC offers soon

teal jackal
#

No wonder Dropbox doesn't hire much nowadays in the first place

obsidian crater
#

They've been saying a recession is coming forever

pine topaz
dusty basin
#

ā€œGiven their assessment of the potential economic effects of the recent banking-sector developments, the staff’s projection at the time of the March meeting included a mild recession starting later this year, with a recovery over the subsequent two years,ā€ the meeting summary stated.

obsidian crater
#

I'll believe them when it happens

dusty basin
obsidian crater
#

That's just a tech thing

#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø my accounting friends all got jobs

#

at big 4

#

It's probably coming this summer tho

livid yew
#

@obsidian crater did u touch grass today

obsidian crater
#

yes

livid yew
obsidian crater
#

begging friend for TSLA referral pog

#

I find this recession prediction kinda meme because they've been saying it since last summer so they're bound to be right someday

livid yew
#

Yeah my stocks are down today

#

Must be recession

obsidian crater
#

My pants fell down

#

Must be recession

livid yew
#

Office so loud today šŸ˜”

shut thistle
livid yew
#

I didn't realize all these people had kids KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

#

Some of them speak better English than their parents WazowskiStare

obsidian crater
#

kids KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

dusty basin
#

Can confirm. @livid yew is my kid

brave forge
#

if only...there was a way to obtain kids without having your own...perhaps...adoption?

rigid quail
#

get you a baby mama

#

i would adopt but yeah i want one of my own too tbh

brave forge
#

when is it a good time

#

just keep them in a box

rigid quail
pine topaz
rigid quail
#

nah im different

#

that can’t be true

livid yew
#

Lemme think

#

My dad was 35 when I was born KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

#

Wait

#

Yep that's right

#

My younger sister, my dad was 40

autumn iris
livid yew
#

My older sister, he was 28 I think

#

Not sure why they waited so long lol

#

I'll ask during my next 1:1 with my dad šŸ’€

brave forge
#

there's a lotta shit people make wrong for their kids to be, especially the religous parents

autumn iris
#

salute wait is this channel also for people graduating december?

#

or people who graduated already

brave forge
#

but only if you already graduated in 2023

livid yew
#

Roblox didn't exist when I was a kid

#

Pretty sure it launched in like 2012 or something

brave forge
#

dang i was going to click that

#

ok i clicked it

livid yew
#

How is that ban?

#

Lol this ain't 4th grade bro

#

This is a free, open forum

#

Yeah I've said some sussy shit

#

In discord

brave forge
#

ok that thread was the dumbest thing ive ever laid eyes upon

cloud zinc
#

thats pretty funny if you think about the gay frogs rant from alex jones way back when. We really have gone full circle

brave forge
#

ya they are called CS majors

timber rock
cloud zinc
#

understandable fear

brave forge
#

Ya you should prevent them from doing that until they are older. There's a lot of bad stuff out there they shouldn't really view. Also giving them cell phone access young just turns them into a phone zombie and they watch youtube non-stop

#

i wouldn't give a kid access to phones until like 8 at least when they are a little self aware. if they get introduced at 1 or 2 they just always want it

sonic coral
#

tf was this thread

#

i didnt get to click in time

brave forge
#

i didnt even really have computers until i was like 10+ and never really got a phone till i was 18 and brought one myself

cloud zinc
#

also block certain sites from your router or isp. You wouldn't want your kid to go to Deviantart.

timber rock
cloud zinc
#

just DM the link if you're concerned

sonic coral
livid yew
#

Is Roblox the one with the blocks dogesmile

brave forge
#

have u seen elon's tweets the guy went full on conservative after his kid disowned him and went trans and his wife left him for a trans activist

cloud zinc
#

I only know roblox by the sus shit the company has been doing with kids

#

both creepy ways and financially exploitative

livid yew
#

I think I opened Robox one time

#

Also where do all these kids get PCs lol

brave forge
livid yew
#

Bro my kid is getting a dumb phone until they are in Middle school

#

Nah fuck a smartphone for elementary school lol

sonic coral
#

roblox def has child predators but these conservatives are wildin with the transphobic stuff

brave forge
livid yew
#

No I don't care for them to call me

#

I don't want to talk to them KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

sonic coral
#

give em the nothing phone KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

livid yew
cloud zinc
#

give them the ladybug phone for really old people

livid yew
#

Fuck it, most of my team is OOO today

#

I'm just gonna head home. thanospog

sonic coral
#

oh not the nothing phone

#

the light phone

brave forge
sonic coral
#

this thing

livid yew
#

Out of Office

teal jackal
livid yew
#

I never played games before HS tbh

late kestrel
#

i woke up at 10:45 today was great dogesmile

sonic coral
#

its a smartphone with an e-ink display

cloud zinc
#

the jitterbug

brave forge
cloud zinc
livid yew
#

I play games all night now

sonic coral
brave forge
cloud zinc
#

no but why an e-ink display?

livid yew
#

Yep

brave forge
livid yew
#

I got no tasks today

cloud zinc
#

seems weird to have it on a phone

livid yew
#

I sleep 12-7

#

Or 1-7

#

Today was 2-6

sonic coral
livid yew
#

Yes 4 hours of sleep

sonic coral
#

it supports texting too

brave forge
livid yew
#

I drink enough caffeine lol

livid yew
#

Doesn't help that I'm listening to lofi girl all day

cloud zinc
#

oh shit, I got an interview with LogicManager. Havent heard back from them in two weeks and thought they ghosted me

brave forge
livid yew
tardy geode
brave forge
cloud zinc
#

Associate software engineer

fallen fox
#

linkedin is garbage lmao

swift falcon
#

i think i fucked ip on behavioral

#

like 1 question

#

everythin else was perfect

#

got too wrapped up in anecdote instead of giving answeer they wanted

#

they were looking for communication resolution

#

like it was ā€œwhen is a time you were on a team with ppl who didn’t pull your weightā€

#

and I used a linear alg project where i did fkkin everything

#

even tho i suck ass at it

#

and I was like I tried to get these guys involved and help out because its not my strong point yadda yadda it was fine we handed it in amd got decent marks

#

and ig to the interviewer it sounded like i was thinking i was entitled to help, because I had mentioned my classmates were sbetter at it

#

and so they were like what would you do different

#

and i said probably get prof involved

#

interviewer said ā€œwell that’s like a last resort thoā€

#

and so i went the ā€œbreak the priblem down into smaller parts and try to delegateā€ but I realized as I was walking out they were probably looking for ā€œcommunicate with teammates better and resolve issueā€

#

idk

brave forge
swift falcon
#

it wouldn’t be so bad but interviewer b literally said ā€œi really want to help you, I think this would be a great job but i want to go back to this question that gave me the creeps(?)ā€

fallen fox
#

all i see are scam and garbage postings

#

maybe the market is like that now copium

swift falcon
#

im not sure he said creeps

#

but who the fuck gets creeped out by that

#

yeah

#

meh it was the only one i could think of tbh

#

like i was drawing a blank šŸ˜‚

brave forge
#

ya this is the truth these guys are not going to relate to uni

swift falcon
#

but fair enough

brave forge
swift falcon
#

no internships

#

im mostly solo/isolated at job

brave forge
#

ok that makes sense. To be honest if i had no internships idk what I would even talk about in interviews these guys grill into you hard

#

it's retarded to be honest if you have never worked in tech it is so hard to land a tech job

swift falcon
#

so fr for that answer I had nothing recent

brave forge
#

idk what would of made them happy

#

not really my intern jobs came pretty easily

swift falcon
#

I have worked FT for last 5 years in IT support

brave forge
#

intern jobs aren't a full time offer though so i dont really care

swift falcon
#

i just have been the only person at my job lol, no teams

brave forge
livid yew
#

Nice

swift falcon
#

i have gone back to school over last 4 years

#

so miss me wit dat

#

but they didn’t ask abt that

brave forge
#

the question was about groups though

swift falcon
#

they asked abt tteammates

brave forge
#

idk if tech support people really work in teams

swift falcon
#

and I don’t have fuck ups for teammates

brave forge
#

what do they do have a group meeting to discuss how to answer phone call better

swift falcon
#

so Im not going to make some shit up

brave forge
#

you should tbh

#

no body would know

#

it's not like they will hook u up to a lie detector

swift falcon
#

laff

brave forge
#

you should have made a document and wrote out common behavioral answers

swift falcon
#

y’all are wildin

brave forge
#

in fact, even people who work in SWE for years make up their behavioral answers ask any senior SWE

#

they take a list of behavioral questions, make up stories that sound real, and memorize it to repeat in interviews

swift falcon
#

that’s your opinion

brave forge
swift falcon
#

eh

brave forge
#

what are u

swift falcon
#

the goal wasn’t to impress

brave forge
#

why dont u want to impress the interviewer?

#

they will forget about u if your unimpressive

swift falcon
#

or da fact that I have worked full time and gotten a bachelor’s and masters over last 4-5 years

autumn iris
#

any 2032 grads

obsidian crater
#

2032 kekw

swift falcon
#

alr so bottom line next time im not using dat story lol

#

we’ve established that

#

lin alg was a stretch

#

panic

#

let’s see if i get offer

#

the technical part was hilarious

#

they asked SOLID

#

and i was like fk

#

im not gonna remember all these, but I know liskovs

#

and dependency inversion

brave forge
#

idk any of this 😭

swift falcon
#

then they prompted others and i explained everything

#

and they said ā€œyou were the only person who actually knew any of these, everyone else is like scrambling to look it upā€

#

and the other interviewer was like ā€œi just actually had to look up it up as wellā€

#

and den they asked me to finish power function

#

and i was like fk this is exactly what glassdoor said it was gonna be lmao

#

and i still managed to draw a blank

#

but i got it after they were like ā€œu can talk us thru logicā€ and it was fine

#

so idfk

#

was like 1hr and 45 minutes of interviews

#

went over allotment

brave forge
swift falcon
#

wait are u being facetious

brave forge
#

no i just wanna know why these questions are so hard

swift falcon
#

tbh id rather have it that way than leetcode

brave forge
#

oh in that case yes it's a discord server if u want serious use blind or slack

swift falcon
#

the x^y function is abt as difficult as I want to solve in interview haha

brave forge
#

what is the position

#

why are they asking u math questions

swift falcon
#

they weren’t

#

i just used the lin alg anecdote

#

they asked abt like abstraction and inheritance and shit like that

#

tbh i drew a blank on what abstraction really is and had to resort to example lol

#

they also asked what OOP is haha

brave forge
#

no not OOP 😭

#

i failed that once also

#

who tf asks what OOP is of course i know what it is it's written in that book somewhere and i will read it when it's important to know do i look like a chatgpt encyclopedia

outer radish
#

how do you balance all that together

#

and do like well lmao

swift falcon
#

im sure everyone else here is getting 4.0 with way harder classes

brave forge
#

we can be 3.72 buddies

swift falcon
brave forge
#

i guess we are no longer 3.72 buddies rip

rain patio
#

does gpa matter when applying

swift falcon
#

I don’t think so tbh

brave forge
#

oh wait i didnt put the gpa in

swift falcon
#

unless it’s like 1.0

rain patio
#

i stopped trying as hard senior year to focus on lc, and portfolio

brave forge
#

but i dropped to minimum enrollment so it's easier

#

and i still suck at lc and my portfolio still needs work

outer radish
fallen fox
#

does anyone else look at their email every 5 minutes for an update

#

idk if thats just me

fresh mango
#

To see ā€œwe have gone with someone who suits our requirementsā€

fallen fox
late kestrel
#

i just got a cold call from revature

#

at least she was nice WazowskiStare

tardy geode
#

dude stay away from them

#

its a big scam

brave forge
#

ngl

#

if i end up unemployed i might do it

#

i thought they stopped hiring now though since so many ppl are unemployed

obsidian crater
#

I wish I could get something

fallen fox
#

i don't understand what bungie wants in their OA

at the beginning they say "please don't spend more than a few hours, we don't want your code to be polished"

and then they say "your code must be optimal for both time and space, and must pass all edge cases"

obsidian crater
#

even a shitty IT job is ok

#

Just do everything

brave forge
#

ya in the USA entry level jobs are so bad

fallen fox
#

shitty it job > consulting

#

im in my shitty it job rn griding leetcode

brave forge
#

every industry wants to pay you 10 bucks an hour and work you either 20 hrs a week so u cant afford anything or like 40 + over time

#

at least tech is chill kind of

obsidian crater
#

I'm just so miserable because all my friends got cushy jobs

#

Meanwhile I can't because of the economy

#

They didn't work harder than me or do anything

brave forge
obsidian crater
#

Some of them didn't even finish blind 75

#

Still $170K TC

#

Survived all waves of AWS and Meta layoffs

#

Somehow

#

I'm happy for them but I wanna rope

fallen fox
#

im roping next month

#

not rope but gonna just drive off a bridge

obsidian crater
#

I'm starting to have hair loss from the stress lol

fallen fox
#

5 months into unemployment i probably wont ever find a swe job

iron lily
obsidian crater
#

This gonna be me next month

iron lily
#

Also jolting awake at 5 AM every morning because of stress

#

Haven’t slept well in months

west egret
brisk sigil
#

how many of you don't have visa problems?

#

I may apply for phd this year

#

if there is no opening

brave forge
#

i wonder if i dont get a job if i should just go towards a masters

late kestrel
brave forge
#

although revature is a real company but a lot of the other ones arent

late kestrel
bold pier
#

Rejected from Startup after 8 rounds of interviews and flying across the country to interview with the CEO

brave forge
#

damnn

#

market tough

#

what was the rejection email

obsidian crater
#

8 rounds

#

Marone

bold pier
#

All coz the CEO didn't thing I was good enough after a brief 29 minute interview in which I even solved the question he gave

brave forge
#

jeez start ups can have the most temperamental ceos

#

wait

#

why tf did he fly you to have a 29 minute interview

bold pier
#

He VETOd, all the rounds before this went amazing

#

Insane

brave forge
#

what does VETOd mean

bold pier
#

Basically if he doesn't want to hire me it doesn't matter how good I did in other interviews

bold pier
#

Soon, I wanna see if they give feedback or not first

bold pier
#

Yeah, all expenses paid. I get to see West Coast for free mostly. But getting a job was more important, especially given so much time spend on the process.

bold pier
sleek owl
#

fuck that ceo

brave forge
lone rapids
#

Whats the name of this startup?

swift falcon
#

8 rounds smh

obsidian crater
swift falcon
#

what were the annoying questions?

neon tide
#

"totally not chill that he was asking questions, just relax bro"

#

im just imagining that ceo from the company that went viral on antiwork

#

the crazy mormon dude

swift falcon
#

the rescinded offer kinda fkd up

#

wouldn’t they have weeded that out earlier?

neon tide
#

"Hey what time do i need to show up for work on day 1?"

"annoying af, rescinded"

swift falcon
#

ā€œWill I get a pc with a new 3080?ā€

neon tide
#

"hey so like do ya'll have health insurance"

swift falcon
neon tide
#

these hoes companies aint loyal

brave forge
#

they'll have the same meeting but with two other software engineers behind you LOL

brave forge
neon tide
#

ofc

brave forge
#

rip

brave forge
swift falcon
#

ā€œhow many RAM does it have?ā€

#

got a call for a phone screen, trying to figure out where the damn job posting is and can’t find it, check my job spreadsheet and it says ā€œdoesn’t have portalā€ šŸ’€

#

they got like 13 employees on linkedin

bold pier
neon tide
#

i need a job spreadsheet for next season

#

so hard sometimes if they remove the listing, etc to remember wtf you applied for

swift falcon
#

what does ā€œfunding via crunchbaseā€ mean?

#

is this a startup!??

obsidian crater
#

Usually

swift falcon
#

it’s a local green energy company

#

would be pretty sweet

#

if i get paid regularly

obsidian crater
prisma flax
#

after some stability I do want to work in a startup tho, it's nice and chaotic experience

obsidian crater
#

I interned at one

prisma flax
#

yea, when people deal with internal tools than it's easier to loose sight

#

and after some time it doesn't make any sense what we are doing

#

but finding a good startup is a task in itself

obsidian crater
#

At my startup we didn't really use good tools

#

So I didn't like it

#

We used C, C++ and GTK

#

No real software development stuff like cloud or ci/cd

oblique wasp
obsidian crater
#

Yeah name and shame lol

prisma flax
#

according to me when you wanna advance your career and make it exciting and deal with ton of shit than startup which has potential and good founders is the place to go

obsidian crater
#

8 rounds on god

prisma flax
#

yea one of the best case is getting acquired

#

can get high position and a lot of leverage

#

sometimes can get investment funds or business funds

livid yew
#

I think the majority of people in this server are single

prisma flax
#

yea should also have experience before joining a startups

livid yew
#

most ppl here are probably single, under 27, and have no clue what to do lol

brave forge
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see i fit into this easily graduating at 20 with a CS degree and 2 internships but nobody wants to hire new-grad swe's so ill have to get a few years experience probably 3 or 4 and then try . Would also have to spend a ton of time on leetcode and get through the long interview process that is like 8 rounds or something

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im not financially stable though

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i need a jobb

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well i do start my internship next month at least

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not intl, american

prisma flax
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you have time, by 23-24 u gonna be in different pos than ur peers

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yea if some shit happens than visa issues

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when your super confident than can try tho

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or ready to pack from country than your last stint can be startup

brave forge
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it might get better later in the year at least when im interning ill be coding more and focusing on interview prep and then new-grad interviews should get my skills sharper each time i get rejected

prisma flax
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did you speed run your university ?

brave forge
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yep i went through one of those online CS degree uni's

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ya

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there is it's pretty chill not hard to get through ive got a 3.75 gpa and never really struggled in any course

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nobody even knows it's online since it's just a normal state school name so it just looks like a normal degree to employers

prisma flax
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nah chill if would be difficult for first jobs and getting your first gig but once u start the hang of things should sort it out

brave forge
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SNHU

neon tide
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ah

brave forge
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the O stands for Oregon lol

neon tide
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oregon not ohio

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ohio doesnt do online cs

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oregon has big program

brave forge
prisma flax
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cool, try converting this internship to ft

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atleast u would be less pressured

brave forge
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im hoping this company hired their whole intern group back last year they said so just going to try and see what happens by the end of it

prisma flax
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cool u got it