2023_grads

[lone rapids]

70k in san diego

[chilly burrow]

I'm not American, but isn't San Diego a hcol area?

I'd imagine the money in st. Louis woud go farther

[lone rapids]

True

[chilly burrow]

Altho there may b mor 2 do in San Diego

[lone rapids]

Once i sign housing lease and all it becomes difficult to switch

[chilly burrow]

Yeah dats tru

[lone rapids]

Yea but 70k is too low

[chilly burrow]

But in dis economy it's hard 2 say no to an offer imo

[lone rapids]

True i mean st louis is decent in terms of comp given it is lcol

Though high crime

85k in stl is 130 in sd

[lapis cove]

if you’re buying a house

doubt thats as severe of a difference for a renter

stl is a nice city tho

[narrow harbor]

for preliminary phone screens, I can just expect basic questions about me and my experience pretty much right? I somehow got passed the resume screen for the first time and im hella nervous cause it's actually a position I want

[lone rapids]

Rent in sd is crazy

Plus sd public transportation atleast to my office there is non existent

[lapis cove]

yea if u have to get a car in one but not the other thats def impactful

[lone rapids]

Stl might be ok without car. Though i want to learn how to drive and buy one to explore little bit

[jovial rain]

Yeah probably if the screen is with your recruiter. You can also just ask the recruiter if the screen is gonna be technical or not

[oblique wasp]

What's the meaning of trivia questions and where can I read them?

[cerulean crater]

I have 10 months of free premium too lol

dm me if anyone needs it i have 10 spots!

Important note: If the recipient already has a Premium subscription, or has used a free trial within the past 12 months, they won’t be eligible to claim the free trial.

[stray imp]

Hi can I get premium ? @cerulean crater

[oblique wasp]

Can someone please answer this? I have an interview tomorrow. TIA!

Gotcha!
I thought they'll ask CS fundamentals like merge sort and some OS and DB s**t

Ahh, I see

Thanks for responding!

[tacit grove]

When do you guys think things will get back to normal? This year?

[fallen fox]

no chance

2025+

[west egret]

if we knew we'd be in finance instead of SWE

[sonic coral]

The general prediction from people seems to be about 2-3 years

[earnest perch]

I have an option to delay my graduation to Dec 2023. Should I do it? 👀

I'm an international student so it would cost me a shit ton. But idk if things will even be a bit better than now

[swift falcon]

what do you guys think this means?

rejection inc?

[fossil jewel]

could actually be awaiting feedback

[swift falcon]

team I interviewed with said they were gonna decide tho, like within 2-3 days

mb they did alr and just didn’t clue in recruiter

[tardy geode]

a job was posted 1 minute ago and I applied 5 seconds ago

lets see what happens

recruiter viewed my profile

[swift falcon]

stonks

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/2omb-pray-prayge-gif-24836269

[tardy geode]

i just joined for emotes

bruh

[dawn sequoia]

nono

[tardy geode]

ok guys whatever smh

[dawn sequoia]

there are a million other server you can join for the emotes

[tardy geode]

[dawn sequoia]

and you picked THAT one

[swift falcon]

[tardy geode]

dude i joined like years ago , i don't even remember

that i was still there

[dawn sequoia]

[tardy geode]

ok hmorrar

[fossil jewel]

[tardy geode]

[swift falcon]

tbh what is wrong with pokimane

[dawn sequoia]

[swift falcon]

i was just joking

[tender sluice]

frik man

[swift falcon]

just joshin yah

[tender sluice]

FRIKKKKKKKKKKKK

[atomic oxide]

They could also be waiting for funding approval - That's been the thing that holds up offers the most imo

[sleek owl]

anyone had interview with SoFi today?

[swift falcon]

even for just 2nd round interview?

[oblique wasp]

If anyone interviewed with SoFi today, then please, please respond 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
I have my final interview tomorrow.

[lone rapids]

SoFi never gave me a oa is it because i graduate this may cuz seems like they want people to start asap

[oblique wasp]

Yes, this is true.

They are rushing everything, they claimed

[lone rapids]

You get the bag

[drifting talon]

Damn I got an OA and I’m also grad in May

Sofi

[oblique wasp]

they closed it 2 weeks agp

[lone rapids]

Rubbing in my face i see

[drifting talon]

Lmao I thought you meant you got an interview without an oa

[lone rapids]

Na

[obsidian crater]

Never got a sofi oa

idk why

[glacial brook]

has anyone completed the bytedance oa recently?

[livid yew]

lol I read that as "people at TikTok giving the OA" I think you mean "completed" or "finished"

[dawn sequoia]

just looking to gauge interest in an idea i had

would anyone be interested in joining a discord community for studying leetcode and making resume/personal projects? i would organize regular and frequent mini hackathons and offer little giveaways/prizes for winning and eventually have referral incentives. in order to make sure people are focused, committed, and serious about contributing to the community, there would be a small subscription fee so there's a little more external pressure to be an active community member

[glacial brook]

yeah lol

[livid yew]

lmfao

but to answer your question, no

[outer radish]

anyone here think to themselves that they've got enough internship experience to be a mf SDE 2

[sleek owl]

def not me

[swift falcon]

i don’t need internship experience

i am good enough without it

[swift falcon]

let us start a csc company

[dusky tapir]

Le csc company

[dawn sequoia]

it could be an opportunity to find someone to co-find a company with.. never know who you'll meet

[tardy geode]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

calculating when hiring would resume ^

[fallen fox]

i have the worst application to interview ratio in this server

1 legit interview this year

[tardy geode]

i have worse than you

[fallen fox]

surely u got more than 1 interview

[tardy geode]

💀

bruh where

[fallen fox]

[cloud zinc]

So I asked this startup if the upcoming interview would be behavioral or technical, and they responded by saying "a little bit of both"

so I'm uncertain if they'll ask technical questions or pull a live coding challenge

[fallen fox]

how long is the interview?

[cloud zinc]

45 minutes

[fallen fox]

then it's probably not much coding if they're doing behavioral as well

[misty fable]

holy frik

[cloud zinc]

they've claimed it was an "introductory call", but I know there is more that meets the eye

[round lake]

Anyone heard back from Cohesity after OA?

[cloud zinc]

cuz who would label a 45 minute interview block as a "quick intro call"

[obsidian crater]

same

[mossy fiber]

I dont have any actual intern, but I still got interviews

[obsidian crater]

I had one interview for an internship

One for a real job

[bold pier]

Yeah they're gonna ask you if you have experience with ALL the technologies under the sun

[compact vortex]

anyone here have tips on getting contract software engineer positions

for the summer

i have 5 months till my job starts after i graduate

wanna do something for the summer

im not at pinterest

im at audible

yeah ill prolly look into that

but i still want some job at a startup or someshit for the summer

[tardy geode]

startups care more about culture fit than your technical acumen . so do behavioral well

all the best

[cloud zinc]

regardless I will be cramming as much shit as possible for the next two days.

Luckily, my interview is on the afternoon of Wednesday, so I will have plenty of time to cram some Spring Boot knowledge

[native mango]

Has anyone given Nutanix's interview?

[lyric cosmos]

when do usually companies open up positions for Fall 2023 graduates?

[prisma flax]

same and am an international

is amazon still hiring in us?

[chilly burrow]

Afaik, not for new grad atm

[fathom dagger]

where do you guys look for jobs?

[vital leaf]

canute

just watched suzume

[faint umbra]

Graduation without job offer is the worst nightmare for any student !

[fathom dagger]

LinkedIn is stressing me out, everytime I open a job posting I see 1500 applicants

[vital leaf]

+1

[fathom dagger]

I graduated in December and I still can't find a job

[vital leaf]

25 days to graduate for me

0 offers

[fathom dagger]

it' s depressing

[vital leaf]

just got a rejection for phone screen today

[faint umbra]

Damn

[vital leaf]

game phonescreen today

[fathom dagger]

it sucks man

it's soo fucked out there

like I sometimes regret going into cs

[vital leaf]

I dont know what he is expecting but I pretty much gave correct answers to every fking question

[fathom dagger]

damn

you guys look for jobs on linkedin only?

[vital leaf]

I am for now

stopped applying 30 days ago

[fathom dagger]

why

[vital leaf]

I will start from tomorrow

[faint umbra]

yes but no jobs for new grads only ppl who reach out to me is consultancy

[vital leaf]

I will fking apply to every job like there is no tomorrow

[vital leaf]

+1

[faint umbra]

Bro the problem is no jobs out there

[fathom dagger]

Literally

No jobs

[vital leaf]

[fathom dagger]

We graduated in the worst time possible

Like a year ago

Write hello world and you'll get a job

[vital leaf]

every time I search in linkedin, I see atleast 5k jobs for my filters

[fathom dagger]

I wonder if I should apply or just wait till the market is better

[vital leaf]

I look all over US. (currently in US)

[faint umbra]

Companies are exploiting us as well, they are looking for perfect candidate which doesn't exist and they reject us left and right.

[vital leaf]

Fk Faang, Im fed up with that sh*t,

I barely solved leetcode . fk that sh*t as well

All I know id C and basic java, python and HTML

[faint umbra]

Me too no motivation no interview calls what will do with leetcode !!

[vital leaf]

I have 2 yoe , but its no use right now bacuase of my international status

I have made my mind

Imma level up my skills to SDE3 level

[fathom dagger]

It's just so demotivating

[vital leaf]

that Ds algo sh*t is not taking me anywhere

[fathom dagger]

When you go on Linkedin and see how many people have applied to each job

It's crazy

When I see 200+

I'm out

[vital leaf]

I see single digit for 60% of roles

[fathom dagger]

I knoww

[vital leaf]

no kidding

[fathom dagger]

How

Are you searching locally?

[vital leaf]

nope set your country as location

I have tried turing and agenl jobs

thier dead meat

Honestly speaking , I gave phone screen to google this Jan for new grad

answered everything that fking recruiter asked me, guess what I got rejected

[prisma flax]

amazon aws is fucked up or something I see no roles and recruiter says they have some roles opened up

[vital leaf]

Im fed up with HIGH HIRING BAR for trash companies like Faang

honestly speaking, 50% of employees dont even reach the bar they set up for some roles

[prisma flax]

this marker is f up

just have to get lucky for job now

or should have cracked school for calls

[swift falcon]

gods of the afterlife spare my arse

[obsidian crater]

[tardy geode]

[tacit grove]

[west egret]

[jaunty storm]

I did it…

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

If they send the letter. I’m done for good. I’m not getting a better offer.

[swift falcon]

What letter?

[pseudo dock]

[onyx sparrow]

[teal jackal]

you got something?

[jaunty storm]

AmEx verbal offer.

[teal jackal]

😻

good luck

[swift falcon]

congrats!

[jaunty storm]

Thanks. It was incredibly hard. It took everything I had.

Not the interview itself, but getting it.

[neon tide]

good luck and congrats!

[fallen fox]

are you international?

[jaunty storm]

Domestic. They have offices internationally.

[fallen fox]

gratz

[neon tide]

just here hoping 2024 is better once im done masters

[pine topaz]

Have you met your co worker @pulsar mural ?

I personally would reject that offer because @pulsar mural would be your co worker...

[jaunty storm]

I won’t know until fall time comes around.

But I love cats. I’m a huge cat guy. I see they have a cat as their pfp.

[late kestrel]

[neon tide]

but how many cats do you have

[jaunty storm]

No silly. I’m the cat. Did you not see me mention progress of my fursuit?

[pine topaz]

You and @pulsar mural should have twinning cat fursuits

to celebrate :3

[jaunty storm]

I actually have someone with one nearby. We’re going to meet in December after the busyness dies down.

[mint sonnet]

What do you guys use to apply??

[late kestrel]

the world wide web

cool invention

[cloud zinc]

levels.fyi

[mint sonnet]

you can apply on levels?

[cloud zinc]

they have a job board

with a filter that works slightly better than linkedin

like you could filter by experience level, and it almost filters by years of experience

some 2-3+ year jobs show up, but its much better than linkedin

[late kestrel]

GIVJOBPLS <GO>

[neon tide]

i didn't actually, will need pics as proof

[lunar hatch]

anyone in the process with linden shore?

the c++ dev position

[west egret]

Too many dangerous sources on the internet

I call their company lines to put in applications

[neon tide]

When application asks for 3 references and permission to contact them

You can have that after interviews, not when I apply

[tardy geode]

then you get ghosted

[west egret]

^ you're describing 90% of companies

[errant apex]

Have you guys applied for the OPT EAD recently?

[cloud zinc]

So some old guy in the neighborhood wants me to make some sort of website for him. In addition, he is willing to pay money for me to do this. I have no experience in freelancing so I don't know how to go about contacting him or setting some sort of deal. Anyone have experience in freelancing with clients directly?

[jaunty storm]

Come see me in Chicago this winter. I’ll be running loose.

[prime palm]

Phelix, im so incredibly proud of u!!

From October to now

Congratulations sir

[jaunty storm]

Thanks. Im tired.

[jaunty storm]

It’s not over until I’m 91 days into the job.

I know how it’s it is with rescinded offers and gut punch emails.

[prime palm]

Won't happen at this point in time

Offers are being extended after a lot of thought and care

Doubt a rescind happens

Plus, it's amex

So GG!

[late kestrel]

just get a couple people to open up some amex plats and then they cant afford to rescind you

[teal jackal]

That's sick, I love fursuits

I want a non aggressive looking white tiger fursuit

[livid yew]

Congrats btw @jaunty storm

[obsidian crater]

Didn't they pause hiring

[livid yew]

[obsidian crater]

They just ghosted me lol

[late kestrel]

[livid yew]

[late kestrel]

[swift falcon]

where’s the guy that asks about sofi everyday

[bold pier]

my recruiter said that wifi is done

[fallen fox]

i should apply to sofi again

two rejections in 3 months

maybe 3rd time's the charm

[west egret]

Gedeon alt?

[livid yew]

SoFi got decent Savings rate

[teal jackal]

God I miss gedeon

what a lad

but I'm happy he found his valhalla within c1

[fallen fox]

gedeon predicted amazon was done

[teal jackal]

yup

shit got dire at amazon in a jiffy

[livid yew]

Jiffy lube

[swift falcon]

what if we all just got jobs

[obsidian crater]

[south sable]

I've done it before

My advice is to meet to discuss a timeline first and expectations

[cloud zinc]

is there a formal procedure to set up the freelancing work, or can it be done causally?

[tardy geode]

they gonna do more layoffs??

[jaunty storm]

[jaunty storm]

🫂

[south sable]

It can be done casually

[fallen fox]

there was a guy called gedeon in this server. he kept saying "my recruiter said x company is done". One of his predictions came true and a week or so later amazon started their hiring freeze and stopped the ng pipeline

this was last year, he was around from august - october

[cloud zinc]

is his nickname Nostradamus?

[tardy geode]

oh shit we need that dude again

[south sable]

is there a formal procedure to set up

[jaunty storm]

I can’t wait to see it. I got a list of 100+ makers if you ever need it.

It’s just cosplay for me. It’s my main hobby. The fursuit is only a part of it (a very expensive part at that).

[obsidian crater]

I'm calling another 10K layoffs at Meta in this century

🧠

[outer radish]

calling entire industry layoffs

chat gpt coming to take all our jobs

back to the coal mines for us

[south sable]

I'm calling coal mines layoffs in this century

machinery is coming to take our jobs

[cloud zinc]

do you think people are making bets on which company lays off x amount of people?

that'll be funny if so

[teal jackal]

Not gonna be Buying for a while but I'd love to let you know when I'm ready for it

[teal jackal]

Galaxy brain fr

[swift falcon]

wow cursing meta like that smh

can't you see zucc is just trying to make a living

[teal jackal]

I need the meme with the one fat guy drinking all the water

We are the fat guy, zuck is the starving guy drinking the droplets

[swift falcon]

oh i know which one

exactly

[tardy geode]

all in on this

in the name of "improving efficiency" firms are layingoff left and right

also if they do layoffs now they won't get much media scrutiny as everyone is doing

[tacit grove]

I agree and it creates a domino affect towards other sectors as well which eventually and naturally makes everything a snowball affect

[vast stone]

Has anyone done BNY mellon superday that I could talk to? Would really appreciate the help

[vast stone]

same^

[jovial latch]

I'm less than a month away from graduation and jobless so I'm about to be similarly fucked tbh

[neon tide]

[swift falcon]

pretty sure that’s illegal

[neon tide]

thought u still had gi bill left

[bold pier]

Pls send all illegal jobs this way, need to maintain status

[chilly burrow]

u made dis?

dats impressiv

[jaunty storm]

I ordered it online. Custom made.

[hushed mortar]

Did anyone get cohesity SDE new grad interview?

[tardy geode]

you international grad student

?

[hushed mortar]

Yes

[prisma flax]

got roasted badly for getting only one interview from the past 4 serious months of job searching

[haughty pier]

What does the bny Mellon karat look like

[tardy geode]

mediums ig , every karat is like that

[tacit grove]

Yes, karats tend to have med-hard questions most focus on graph questions from my experience at least

[tardy geode]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/andrew-merewitz_to-my-colleagues-in-amazon-ads-that-were-activity-7054147291611291648-tEdp?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios

[round lake]

Check dm

[tardy geode]

jassy announced more layoffs after jan

one

[static quarry]

nordstrom had a ton of tech layoffs today

[mossy fiber]

[tardy geode]

[rain thicket]

I didn't see any news yet

[static quarry]

tons of linkedin posts and i have some friends there who got laid off/had people on their team laid off

[tardy geode]

https://www.linkedin.com/news/story/bain-mckinsey-push-mba-start-dates-5238161/

[tardy geode]

let him(the linkedin feed algorithm) cook

[late kestrel]

In exchange for waiting to start until April 2024, Bain & Co. is offering hires $30,000 to learn a new language or take educational courses or $40,000 to work for a nonprofit, reports The Wall Street Journal. Delayed MBA hires can also work as yoga instructors or go on a safari for $20,000.

wild

[fossil jewel]

thats crazy

[jovial latch]

i hate my life and this market

finna kms

[obsidian crater]

same

[grizzled bronze]

Bruh, just stop browsing LinkedIn and career sites for now, take a break

Then get back to it

[obsidian crater]

bro

I apply to shit everyday

Either get ghosted or rejection

Do leetcode everyday

Shit is depressing

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah that's why I was suggesting the other guy to take breaks from that, you're not gonna miss anything

Works for me

[obsidian crater]

Breaks don't really help one relax though

Because you're still jobless

[grizzled bronze]

YMMV, works for me since I'm living with parents and don't got bills or anything to worry about

I got money saved up for rent if I have to move

[glossy shard]

Guys where do I add my aws certification in my resume? near the skill section ?

[tacit grove]

and to top everything off Meta layoffs tomorrow

[autumn jolt]

Hey guys, a question off topic...Is it true that PWC does not provide sponsorship?

[prisma flax]

They told it depends on the role and the position i contacted for didn’t

[autumn jolt]

I see

[fallen fox]

where these mfers hiring from then anyway

[delicate sigil]

I think in arizona💀

[sonic coral]

Upstate ny

And I guess depending on if they count Suffolk county as nyc metro

[jovial latch]

the only thing that slightly makes sense in my head is that the ceo is a fuckin narcissitic dumbass who thinks they can exert all the control over their employees if they live in a shitty area or something idfk

like oh how dare you live in a city idfk

[sonic coral]

It seems like basically they wanna pay you jack shit

Altho weird choice to have Houston metro and not Austin metro since I’m pretty sure Austin is more expensive nowadays

I love how they specifically mention nyc metro but ban the entirety of jersey lmao

[grizzled bronze]

Why are some companies only restricting remote roles to specific states?

Like I don't get why Confluent is restricting remote hiring from North Carolina, Texas, and other states I'm not in

I guess taxes?

Because as far as salary, Confluent is still paying $125K for BA/ $135K for Masters in Texas

[jovial latch]

originally ik job apps restricted remote work from states that had ah, laws requiring salary to be posted

oh hey i found that job app LMAO

[neon tide]

It’s generally taxes or laws restricting remote work

[tardy geode]

what the..

fr?

@tacit grove

[tacit grove]

Yes, tomorrow. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/18/meta-layoffs-tech/

[tacit grove]

tech group layoffs tomorrow and then business groups next month

[atomic oxide]

There are certain companies whose products, for some reason or another, either get heavily taxed by certain states/metro areas or break some kind of law or monopoly deal in those areas. So they won't let you even remote work from there for a week.

[grizzled bronze]

Lmao I searched and found it too, since my state qualifies. I just don't meet the job requirements.

[stray imp]

How is equinix for Product Management?

[swift falcon]

omg the meta layoffs were real

crazy

[south sable]

is there a list of leetcode solutions available online? sorry if this question is not allowed

[tacit grove]

yeah i thought they were done last month they have a round tomorrow and in May

[swift falcon]

the prophecy was true

[obsidian crater]

I didn't want to be right

[shut thistle]

which companies respect referrals for new grad positions?

[chilly burrow]

Chk Leetcode?

U can find solutions in the discussion section

[lone rapids]

Leetcode has solutions by users always

[pastel bane]

will people riot if they cannot find a job?

[stable bear]

Are international students graduating this semester getting any interviews lately? Or Is the market that bad?

[fallen fox]

nah zero interviews

[pastel bane]

I doubt if I need to go to the outsourcing companies to get my first dev job
wonder if it will ruin my resume

[fallen fox]

if they add ""experience"" to your resume, that might be a problem

[timber rock]

No lmao

[fair zinc]

when does bloomberg reopen ng application?

[fair zinc]

great. will that be open to Dec 2022 grads?

[outer radish]

Holy tuck am i tripping or is there hella jibs now

Like 20k

HOLY SHIET

[swift falcon]

the recRUDER got back to me, and is asking me to re-apply to a new position (which is saying Senior Software Engineer 🤡) and then I’ll get an in-person interview?

https://tenor.com/view/gooby-pls-goofy-gif-10559026

[tired cape]

where?

[shut thistle]

update username to current apps :/

[obsidian crater]

Where homeie

[livid yew]

@obsidian crater

Any offers?

[fair zinc]

do you work there

I see. Bloomberg usually opens their new grad applications around June but not sure if they will do that the same time this year considering the macro economy

[obsidian crater]

0 offers

[tardy geode]

none ig in this market

[bold pier]

Guys wish me luck, my first onsite interview of the year

[shut thistle]

you got this!

[late kestrel]

ew bb

[livid yew]

Free laundry? What company had that perk

[glass knoll]

has anyone applied for OPT in mid-March has their app approved?

[livid yew]

Free massage sounds nice, never had a massage before

So I would have to lug my laundry to the office?

That sounds terrible

[late kestrel]

ikr. no gym, car wash, or even at least michelin rated restaurant !?!?!?

[fallen fox]

[late kestrel]

[livid yew]

Damn somehow I never know about FAANG perks

SWEs really are incapable of basic human chores

[swift falcon]

on linkedin?

[obsidian crater]

Did you just call NYC a boomer city

[swift falcon]

are they spamming them now for the wave of new grads?

[fallen fox]

nj is boomerville

nyc is nice

[livid yew]

Jersey

Bro I ghosted them

[late kestrel]

theres this rly cool guy there

hickie i think his name is

[livid yew]

Interview was weird

Also it was Karat, so I said, fuck this

[sonic coral]

The beauty of nyc is it has everyone from newborns to dead people

[late kestrel]

isnt that the case literally everywhere

[bold pier]

True, I'm dead inside

[sonic coral]

And everything in between 💀

[sonic coral]

Well Seattle is mostly zombies

[cloud zinc]

how many affected?

[obsidian crater]

ye rip

[cloud zinc]

Damn. If its 10k, then I'll need @obsidian crater to tell me the lotto numbers

[obsidian crater]

The layoffs are part of a broader restructuring at Meta that CEO Mark Zuckerberg has dubbed the “year of efficiency.” In March, Zuckerberg said the company would cut **10,000 **jobs in the coming months, particularly ones related to “low priority projects.”

[late kestrel]

crackhead babies and the dead crackheads too

[sonic coral]

10k new cuts??? Holy

They’re at almost 40k cuts then aren’t they?

[sonic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-gif-18518114

[late kestrel]

perfect so my point still stands

[sonic coral]

I mean it was a joke lol

[late kestrel]

nop

not possible

we r very serious ppl here

[sonic coral]

We are professionals

[late kestrel]

[obsidian crater]

[sonic coral]

Yes

[livid yew]

4k engineers? Or just 4k tech related

That could also be like Architects, DBAs, SREs

My LinkedIn is just ads

I have seen 0 meta on my feed

Granted I don't know anyone at meta

[fair zinc]

stop it

[livid yew]

Bro people are being rude assholes in the cafeteria today

I just told some random dude to stop being an asshole to the chef

[rain patio]

Were you also affected by this layoff?

[late kestrel]

whatd they do

[livid yew]

Just overheard someone being unreasonable lol

Like bruh

[rain patio]

[prisma flax]

is meta uplifting itself ?

like meta and amazon has so many layoffs

[prisma flax]

reaction?

[fallen fox]

imagine going to work worrying about whether or not you are allowed to come back the next day

i cannot imagine that being a healthy environment

especially if you are on a visa

[prisma flax]

well in this market there's no guarantees

[late kestrel]

paying someone 200k-400k to do 0 work for a year is so wild from a company perspective

[prisma flax]

I'm sure by time I get to 30's gonna loose all my hair bcuz of this stress

[livid yew]

I didn't wait

I just walked away

[sonic coral]

Wait so next round of layoffs has better severance than the first few???

Their first few rounds had 3-6 months sev I’m pretty sure

[late kestrel]

technically this one isnt a layoff

he can stay if he wants

[sonic coral]

It’s voluntary?

Interesting

[late kestrel]

this one specifically

[sonic coral]

Followed by more normal layoffs right

[livid yew]

Oh we had voluntary severance

A bunch of people took it

[teal jackal]

Interesting

Why would they take are? Are they confident they can get another offer?

[prisma flax]

companies do play, their forced my friend to resign so can sign off as voluntary severance instead of doing normal layoff

[livid yew]

I don't think it would make sense for me. I don't like being jobless

[fallen fox]

senior swe @ meta likely has recruiters swarming him like rats

[sonic coral]

If you’re like L5+ prob

[livid yew]

Also severance collecting is just dumb

[late kestrel]

if someone told you "heres 300k over the next year" and all you had to do is find a new job, i feel like id be confident i could find something in a year

[teal jackal]

Job market is kinda flooded at the moment I thought

[prisma flax]

for senior roles, it's easier to find another job in 1-2 months if their get serious on job search

[sonic coral]

Well under 1yoe as a Junior eng I’d be less confident

Since it’s absolutely flooded with laid off people

[livid yew]

300k is like 175 post tax lol

[late kestrel]

well ofc, doubt theyre offering this to juniors tho

[sonic coral]

But if I was an L5 and up I would certainly consider it

[livid yew]

Also 6 months of pay for me would be uhh

48k or something

[late kestrel]

tax shmax

[sonic coral]

Wait are they getting 12 months of stock vesting too

[late kestrel]

probably

[livid yew]

Does meta gave like monthly vest

*have

[obsidian crater]

I think I got an interview with a local startup

[livid yew]

[fallen fox]

[late kestrel]

[obsidian crater]

SoFi ghost though

[livid yew]

Good luck on interview

[fallen fox]

onlypogs in chat

[sonic coral]

[obsidian crater]

thanks

[livid yew]

[rain patio]

Hi - Anyone here have tips on how to prepare for take home project's interview questions? I passed the take home project, now I have an interview about it

what should i expect in this?

[obsidian crater]

Do I bother applying to Ramp?

[fallen fox]

i mean why not

[obsidian crater]

Because flags

[fallen fox]

the worst that can happen is a ghost

[rain patio]

no don't. I'm interviewing with them

[livid yew]

https://facebookuserprivacysettlement.com/#submit-claim

[rain patio]

less competition

[obsidian crater]

[livid yew]

Gonna get like $2

[obsidian crater]

good for a candy bar

[tardy geode]

real chads live in mom's basement

[cloud zinc]

best of luck to you

[rain patio]

Cuckcast did layoffs?

[prime palm]

Do it

[livid yew]

Yeah back in November

About 500-600 people

[obsidian crater]

Gotta do the CTF ree

[livid yew]

most just moved internally @rain patio

Cause positions just got deleted.

A lot of people jumped to Amazon in December

Couple to Meta

A lot to DN

[west rune]

Is there a github repo for new grad roles for 2024?

[livid yew]

@grim ore

[west rune]

Well I know there is a pitts repo for internships so I just thought there would be one for new grads

[rain patio]

More intern roles than new grad roles I think

[west egret]

There will be but it’s not even May…

[obsidian crater]

Send fucking rope lmao

My friend got a 0.75/30 on his midterm

[rain patio]

[west egret]

Did they study or is the class just hard af?

[obsidian crater]

Class is stupid

[swift falcon]

bro just wfh

[livid yew]

Lol do they track your RTO swipes

[tacit grove]

for Amazon?

[livid yew]

I asked a question? And you gave a non answer

Lmao what the fuck

Gross

I don't know my policy, it was never really specified

But also like 5-7 days, they won't just fire you

That's just lol

Not how the the world works

I'm just saying, nobody ever actually cares

Really?

[rain patio]

Someone always cares

[livid yew]

Weird

Yeah I don't really know how HR works either

I don't ask questions, and just go about my life

[west egret]

I don’t mind going to the office but I’d prefer a limit of 3 days

Obviously a diff situation for ppl with long commutes

[livid yew]

Depending on what meetings I have, I'll go in

Like Thursday is scrum day for us, so I'm in the office

[west egret]

For me, it’s more about having physical barriers to separate work and home life

Once you leave the office, you can not think about work

[livid yew]

That's rare for me mentally lol

Like last night, at bedtime I had a crazy lightbulb moment on how to improve something

I live in a "my work will change the world" mindset

[fallen fox]

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET AN INTERVIEW

[severe pendant]

Same qs!!!!!!

[west egret]

Well we still have some RTO

[sleek owl]

Is cpt time cut from opt time?

[glass knoll]

don't think so

[fallen fox]

only if you exceed 12 months of full-time cpt

then you are disqualified from applying for opt

[late kestrel]

yeah we about to get this W

final circle!!

[sleek owl]

So if I have only 3 months cpt, then I get full 12 months opt?

[livid yew]

Cheddy is insane at cod

[fallen fox]

yes, as long as your full-time cpt usage doesn't exceed 12 months, you get full 12 months of opt

[late kestrel]

we didnt win

mike threw

[livid yew]

[late kestrel]

[obsidian crater]

Go around your city

Look at restaurants that have signs saying "Nobody wants to work"

They are hiring

[fallen fox]

im doing a local it job rn after months of unemployment

every day i feel like roping myself

[obsidian crater]

I want to rope too bro

Dw

[fallen fox]

[teal jackal]

Ex-zon is weak on resumes now

I'm really sad to say but I think that employers caught on once the job market went into scarcity mode

[fallen fox]

just worried if i stay unemployed for too long i might never break into the industry

[slender apex]

is going back to school an option?

[fallen fox]

nope

are you graduating in may?

[slender apex]

Is it rly a death sentence to be NEET for a bit?

fair enough

open source work?

[swift falcon]

1 job pls

💳

💥 💥 💥

obsessively checking email rn

nothing

[neon tide]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743647

[oblique wasp]

for how many months can international students do internship on OPT?

[sleek owl]

36 months including stem opt

Why is SoFi sending my info to immigration lawyer before the on-site lol

[vapid oasis]

Hey guys

I’m new here

Just wanted to say I’m on the same boat lol

How r u guys applying?

[oblique wasp]

dont just say it, show it. Send ss of all your rejection emails! 😢

[oblique wasp]

Thanks!

[vapid oasis]

I’ve been ghosted

You got emails back???!!!

[prisma flax]

gonna spam with rejection emails

[fallen fox]

they do that

[oblique wasp]

That means its an offer, right?

[fallen fox]

i mean they did they exact same thing to me last time before the on-site

got rejected after on-site

[oblique wasp]

Oh, ok

[fallen fox]

ericsson? immigration group reached out to me before the on-site to verify my paperwork

sorta weird, other companies generally do this after they give you a concrete offer

[sleek owl]

Yeah exactly, they should be doing that after the offer

[obsidian crater]

Sofi is ghosting

Me

I hate sofi unless they don't ghost me

[pallid sapphire]

What is the on-site? Are there interviews after giving the online interviews?

[obsidian crater]

@fallen fox you're international right?

So sofi doesn't auto reject internationals?

[fallen fox]

ye

[obsidian crater]

They just hate me I guess

[fallen fox]

they dont

[obsidian crater]

Fuck them

Fake job postings

[fallen fox]

🇨🇲

[livid yew]

SoFi t DN in your mouth

[late kestrel]

[bold pier]

lmao, solved a 45 min interview in 5 minutes. Then spent 1 hour talking to the interviewer

[livid yew]

How?

Like LC?

Bro you don't wanna solve it too fast. That's sus

[fallen fox]

or be like me and dont solve it at all

[livid yew]

Unless you just randomly have a solution memorized lol

[bold pier]

Not LC, it was to write a Typescript framework to process jobs concurrently

[livid yew]

The real Chad

I don't know TS

[bold pier]

I went overtime on the LC interview

[livid yew]

Better than my first internship

[bold pier]

Me neither, I finished 2 tutorials before the interview. It was mostly using promises and async

[livid yew]

But yeah that ain't ideal

[obsidian crater]

You guys where do I find a rope

Yeah that's insane

[rain patio]

[bold pier]

Anything for a job, pretty sure I'm not gonna get another interview for another month

[jovial latch]

where are the fucking JOBS

im just so

[livid yew]

Just squashed 13 commits

[dry salmon]

Has anyone successfully appealed and got a different location for their full time role?

[livid yew]

Did you post on resume channel?

Send a link here to the post

[jovial latch]

ive like straight up been ghosted by 3 recruiters after talking with them jesus christ i fucking despise my life rn

[livid yew]

That happens a lot to me

[jovial latch]

i think i just despise everyone right now

ive been in a state of constant anger for the last 6 months

[neon tide]

yeah i had a recruiter exchange 3 emails with me, and then asked me "whats your availability tomorrow I'd like to set up a zoom call" then just fucking ghosted me after I gave him my availability for the entire week

followed up with him a few days later and nada

[livid yew]

It's deleted ?

[jovial latch]

yea i had someone ask me for my availability yesterday morning, havent heard anything back, so like, i suppose ill just email tommorow idfk christ

then ive been speaking to a charles schwab recruiter for a month trying to get a damn interview with a team but theres some bs always happening

that bitch told me id have an update mid last week but then i got an automated email saying she was on vacation or something

and you know i emailed her this monday and nothing

goddddd

[grizzled bronze]

Give it a week and follow up again

I would already be keeping my expectations low since someone said Schwab told them all positions were filled

[jovial latch]

yea.... she told me that

so im fucking pissed

i mean im trying to get something in the jersey city location

id have hoped shit was cancelled in the chicago and texas locations, you know, the places everyone fucking wanted

but yea ive been talking to her for a solid month

actually

i applied in september and she emailed me then and told me to wait and apply for the june cohort

so you know, great

hate my life

and everyone

[grizzled bronze]

I mean, all you can do is keep following up once in a while and hope someone reneges or something, but keep expectations low

It's a shitty market, you're not alone in your experience

It's not gonna stay that way

[jovial latch]

so im told

[livid yew]

Looking now buddy

[grizzled bronze]

Congrats! Techie3445 has viewed your resume

[livid yew]

[vapid oasis]

So what r u all using to apply for jobs?

[grizzled bronze]

LinkedIn

And networking

[vapid oasis]

Ahhh gotchu

But LinkedIn has a bunch of fake jobs

Also some of them r asking for 2 yrs+ of experience

[swift falcon]

imagine if there was a website that just had like a tabular view of job listings

[vapid oasis]

When I’m only entry level

[swift falcon]

and it had company, title, point of contact etc.

all the fields we want but don't have

[vapid oasis]

So true

Wish

[grizzled bronze]

True, but I recommend looking at the employee count, GlassDoor page, whatever info you can find. As you start applying there you'll figure out what is fake and what is legit.

[vapid oasis]

We had it

[vapid oasis]

Oh ok thank u

[grizzled bronze]

Visa is hiring for new grad SWE in Austin https://jobs.smartrecruiters.com/Visa/743999900654814-software-engineer-undergrad-new-college-grad-austin-tx

[neon tide]

2* hours

[iron lily]

are these Visa postings actually real

I feel like the Visa recruiters are just creating a pipeline because I've never seen anyone get a new grad offer from them this year

yet they post so frequently

[late kestrel]

yeah visa was super weird this season

codesignal-> "we'll be sending out interviews soon, please give us some more info" in a personalized email -> ghost -> reject 4 months later

[grizzled bronze]

Yeah it's hard to pass resume screen with them, also feels like they're prioritizing diversity candidates (based on certain recruiters' LinkedIn posts)

[bold pier]

Congrats on the admit!

[teal jackal]

revature recruiters are extremely aggressive and like to target those who look like theyre down bad for a job

[tacit grove]

yeah I've noticed this too

[fallen fox]

AINTNOWAY

fire all ms devs

[bold pier]

I think that has happened twice already

[swift falcon]

bros

aren’t amazon and meta like the richest companies on earth or sth

why the hell they laying off ppl

[jovial latch]

Wealth is hoarded, not distributed

Both companies overhired in the pandemic and are correcting it

Meta is controlled by a retarded dumbass who just casually threw billions and billions of dollars at the metaverse, and only recently finally gave up

The result of that bleeding money though is more layoffs

Nah they quietly killed it
Iirc they shifted their focus internally to ai tech

These things are never shut down immediately, it's always a gradual transition off

[livid yew]

that is for Oculus Quest 2 I think

[jovial latch]

Ya actually, not the same thing

Theyll keep doing vr shit, but metaverse stuff, no

Well that's the question right, what exactly is the metaverse

Other than a scam

Folding ideas actually has a really good video on this

troll

i mean, it depends on what you consider a metaverse

is roblox a metaverse, is minecraft a metaverse?

is fortnite a metaverse?

but man that fucking lizard was trying to sell the idea of fucking working and doing everything in the god damn metaverse what a fucking clown

i mean, any ux guy will tell you the metaverse would have never worked for that, because doing most things in the metaverse requires more interactions, more clicking, more time

it doesnt make sense

i will admit the whole metaverse debacle really showed how fucking stupid and out of touch company executives are holy fucking shit

when i interned at fidelity, fuckin higher up execs wanted all the interns in the office (along side the work we were doing in our own teams) to fuckin make some dumbass 'metaverse game' to try and 'market fidelity to young kids in the metaverse' i shit you not LMAO

and then we had to fucking present it like it was something of relevance and not a roblox game we coded in like a day

so yea capitalism is retarded, and the wrong people have power and moneyt

[jovial latch]

the whole thing was honestly hilarious cause the higher ups legitatemly thought that the metaverse would be a thing and go somewhere

and thats the thing, the whole concept is basically a scam, its like the whole star citizen thing of saying it has the potential to be something good, except it never will

though i hear star citizen actually does things from time to time

[night marsh]

They don't want to reduce their billion/million dollar salaries.
But on a more technical level, Amz legit doubled its workforce during the pandemic (correct me if I'm wrong), and Meta's been hit by sky-high fines and an exponential investment into the mehverse for graphics that make PS1 look next-gen

TL;DR - AMZ brought into the hype of remote work, and Meta made a shitty investment into beyond shitty technology way too ahead of its time to the point where it's not viable for the average consumer to use.

That being said, it does have good applications in terms of research. I'm working in a research lab rn that uses the Metaverse to detect network strength (and the lab itself is really interesting), but ain't no way that tech's gonna become ubiquitous.

Ah good point. I was assuming bc it scaled so quickly the tech couldn't keep up with it.

[jovial latch]

its just a scope thing tbh, like the whole metaverse concept, there are osme good narrow use cases, but trying to do fuckin everything in it right, thats stupid and clearly the scope and scale is an issue

its so stupid they could have just pushed vr tech and made a buncha cool vr games

[night marsh]

Yeah exctly. Like I'll give credit to its marketing team - those ads have good stories and photography. Then it shifts over to the Metaverse gameplay and it looks so, so awful.

[jovial latch]

yea no one wants to work in a metaverse or do anything in it

[night marsh]

Yes this. They could've had so much more working on that but they decided to push out a concept without even working on it

[jovial latch]

anything 'metaverse' related has always been in the context of games, because thats the only thing that makes sense

fucking idiot

he just causually drains billions

[fossil jewel]

ftx had accountants in the meta verse lmaooo

we know what happened by now to that

[night marsh]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u48vYSLvKNQ&ab_channel=RoshieDiHayCo||
Reminds me of this

S3 Silicon Valley spoilers

[jovial latch]

yall should see this vid this guy sums up the whole scam of the metaverse very well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiZhdpLXZ8Q

its honestly just hilarious how pathetic it is

[fossil jewel]

if apple does a metaverse , then it might be hype

[night marsh]

Like VR has potential, yes. But at least have SOMEthing to back it up. It legit looks awful as a release

[fossil jewel]

knowing how much apple hypes up and their fanbase

they legit gonna be a bank now with this new savings account stuff

[jovial latch]

eh, im amused by how stupid the whole thing is
mind you, it does feel a bit personal given the whole fidelity thing i mentioned earlier

[fossil jewel]

exactly

[night marsh]

fr, I've been pressured alot to switch to blue bubble gang

[jovial latch]

sony fucked up big with psvr2 tbh lol

the damn headset is more expensive than the ps5

and you cant even use it on pc, so like, its not gonna sell

[fossil jewel]

everyone knows meta is boomer asf and no one trusts them after the amount of data they have on people

[night marsh]

Indeed

[fossil jewel]

by boomer i mean facebook

[night marsh]

Nowadays it seems whenever people talk about Meta it's in a negative light

even non tech ppl

[jovial latch]

was meta ever talked aobut in a positive light

tbh

[night marsh]

I stopped trusting it after I matched with someone on Hinge and Facebook recommended them as a friend even though I never authorized Facebook to do so and she had no mutual contacts

[night marsh]

Maybe in The Lion lol

[fossil jewel]

only when it came out

“a new way to connect with people”

[night marsh]

If it wasn't for Messenger and Whatsapp I would completely stave off of it

[fossil jewel]

yeah and IG for me as well

[jovial latch]

in indian so im legally obligated to have whatsapp

[fossil jewel]

i only generally use it to talk to people and send them reels

[night marsh]

Yeah

I tried to deactivate it after that but it wouldn't let me do so without disabling Messenger

[fossil jewel]

wack

[jovial latch]

i remember they threw a fit when apple implemented their whole block trackers thing or whatever

and everyone started heralding apple for respecting privacy, but they just blocked facebook from getting users private data so apple can just sell it themselves lol

[fossil jewel]

yeah we need more anti-trust laws imo

[mossy fiber]

[fossil jewel]

australia is going crazy with those

[jovial latch]

sir this is america, best we can do are nazis

[fossil jewel]

you right nvm lmao

[mossy fiber]

this role got all those key words Senior New Grad Internship Software Hardware

[jovial latch]

yea that bitch finally got back to me, well welp all the jersey positions are filled so thats the end of that, lmao what was the fuckign point of calling me a month ago then fuckign useless ass recruiters

[deep hazel]

Anyone here take the Tiktok new grad SWE Testing OA?

[mossy fiber]

QA role without OA but they scheduled onsite directly

[swift falcon]

how long does it actually take to get hired tho

like from screen to final offer (lets say 3 rounds top)

[serene nymph]

maybe about 1 month

[swift falcon]

3 weeks to a month?

[serene nymph]

yea

[late kestrel]

depends on the company and how many ppl they r interviewing at the time

during peak season 2-3 months isnt uncommon

[swift falcon]

see that just seems insane to me

[jovial rain]

4 mos for Google lmao

[dull rover]

Which places are still hiring?

[swift falcon]

we need like a survey for people that have been hired

[late kestrel]

both the offers i got last fall were ~2.5 months

[swift falcon]

so we can nail down some avg time tables

im just so tired of being disappointed

and feeling like my chain is being yanked

[dull rover]

Most places I apply to (after matching their requirements), reject quite quickly

[swift falcon]

like there was one recruiter from 2 weeks back who said “ill get back to you later today” haven’t heard a goddamn word

i sent a follow on email on monday

still nothing

https://tenor.com/view/full-metal-jacket-gunnery-sergeant-gunny-hartman-drill-instructor-boot-camp-gif-14451885

recruiter.gif

[grizzled bronze]

That sucks, I've had something like that happen to me too a couple times. Calling the recruiter derogatory words is not gonna help, it's not their fault the headcount for the role is filled.

There's a lot that goes on in the background, and hiring managers can be slow to get back as well

Not fair to blame the recruiter for a shitty economy

[deep wasp]

Giving gpt4 a hard leetcode problem and asking it teach me how to solve it (without giving me the answer, but giving me steps and objectives to implement it)

seems to be helping me get better

Gives me some confidence, and the more I do it, I recognize the patterns quicker

Whereas I previously may have given up

[timber rock]

The offer I accepted took over 3 months 💀

3rd jan > 13th april

[copper field]

not sure if this is the right spot for this -- anyone working for snowflake?

[lethal latch]

does any one heard of IBL education?

[thick cave]

what theeeeeeee

senior software developer, for new grads, as an internship 🤩

[tacit grove]

LMAO lmao 😂 indirectly telling us the level of the interview for a new-grad in this market

[thick cave]

I'm tired of this job market, this was the last straw

yes

[outer radish]

"experience dealing with storage systems" - uh been using my piggy bank since I was 5

[swift falcon]

we should all apply to the same job with the same resume

100 of us

troll a bunch of jobs

[thick cave]

"Mike Hunt, Senior Prompt Engineer"

[thick cave]

I've been using Hilroy binders since the 1st grade

[grizzled bronze]

It's a specialized role, they're looking for Masters/PhD so it makes sense

[obsidian crater]

[grizzled bronze]

Honestly that's not a reason to be pissed, these types of roles already existed outside of this market

[livid yew]

[obsidian crater]

yes

I am still pissed

Because no job

[grizzled bronze]

Fair

[obsidian crater]

[grizzled bronze]

I'm waiting for 2024 new grad roles to come out

[jaunty basalt]

what if bro in green also stopped

[late kestrel]

thnx for ur contribution le "" joro

im sorry that was rude

[grizzled bronze]

I'm not interested in being an EdTech tutor, but it always feels good to open up Handshake since I at least get some recruiter messaging there

[late kestrel]

[grizzled bronze]

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/out-in-tech-career-talks-tickets-580909083707

There's an event on Friday where tech companies that are hiring will be talking, not sure if it's for LGBT only, but I'm going anyway

[livid yew]

this is cursed bro

delete this

[grizzled bronze]

@livid yew what are the chances Comcast ever opens up full remote for new grad?

[livid yew]

I mean you can ask the recruiter

[grizzled bronze]

Ok, don't switch jobs before 2024 new grad is out for them

I'm gonna need your referral

Forget TC

[livid yew]

I mean most roles can be worked
Philadelphia and surrounding suburbs, Denver, Austin, Silicon Valley, Washington DC/N. Virginia

[grizzled bronze]

They give you extra bonus if you have to relocate to Philly

[livid yew]

I wish

[late kestrel]

wym

[obsidian crater]

techie

what's the image in your banner

it's so edgy and cool

@livid yew

[livid yew]

one of my fav games

Cult of the Lamb

[obsidian crater]

added to steam wishlist

[livid yew]

its short, like 20hrs

[obsidian crater]

not a bad thing

[bold pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KefznccsY0&ab_channel=Programmersarealsohuman

[sleek owl]

is this a scam?

https://facebookuserprivacysettlement.com/#submit-claim

[late kestrel]

[thick cave]

Title is still brutally named if it’s an internship lolol

could b slightly improved to clarify its not a new grad full time position

[grizzled bronze]

It is a new grad role though, new grad is not just limited to undergrad students

[thick cave]

Yea but common knowledge for job postings is new grad implies full time employment

probs should’ve j moved that new grad bit to the description and clarified better there

[grizzled bronze]

Oh wait I see what you mean now, didn't notice the 'internship' in there

that's sneaky