2023_grads

[swift falcon]

would it have been insane to ask the first round interviewers "what can I do to make me stand out or be more successful in following interviews if I am chosen to move on to the next round?"

there is an interview portion with a bunch of business analysts, but I have no idea what the point of that would be

aside from just getting introduced to some part of that team and seeing if I am compatible?

[whole berry]

its not necessarily cringe

partially sure

[small mountain]

ALWAYS ask questions tho. but genuine ones that you naturally develop as you research the company not some meta-gaming strat where you try to look good compared to the other candidates

[swift falcon]

I asked what the 3 to 6 month expectations were and then specifically what stack the software uses, because it was kind of vague

but tbh both of those are things I am actually interested in and find useful

and ok, I guess it's a good thing I didn't ask that ( i just thought about it on the drive this morning), though I guess I asked a bit about the technical interview, like if it was leetcode or system design so that was maybe cringe D:

alright, I will say they had a good answer for the 3-6 month thing, they explained a lot about their culture and how theres some interpersonal 'who knows what, who to ask, who to meet' type stuff that you aren't expected to be fluent in at 3 months, but by 6 months should be good

ok so never ask about interviewing process at all basically

he mentioned it would be "some sort of sorting thing - but it would also be about how you problem solve"

well I appreciate your perspective though

why not bubble?!?!?

oh i was joking about bubble

[young peak]

290k TC I think

[timber shoal]

Has anyone interviewed with Headlands Technologies? They don't have a levels.fyi page or a blind page lol
Not sure how to rate them, please lmk

[lunar hatch]

They are 🐐

But interviews are super hard

I also interviewed with them

Failed onsite

[timber shoal]

I have an onsite scheduled but not sure if I'll choose them over IMC (they are sponsoring my H1B)
Do you think they'll match/exceed IMC?

[lunar hatch]

Abs yes

[timber shoal]

Oof, thanks for the info! gl

[young peak]

Headlands is a giant bro

Great job

They can easily exceed IMC

They're as good as any HFT

[timber shoal]

I genuinely didn't know they are rated this highly, fingers crossed 🤞🏻

[tardy geode]

i am tired of life

at this point imma accept a lowball offer too

i am so tired and exhausted

i crossed 2k apps today

changed my resume shit ton of times , i am networking too and applying like crazy

[lone rapids]

How much is the offer

[gritty mesa]

what sites/job boards have you been using to find and apply to this many jobs?

[tardy geode]

bruh i didn’t get i am just sayin

[late kestrel]

[urban gulch]

R u getting interviews at least?

[tardy geode]

na mate , nothing past OAs smh . even perfect OAs getting rejected

i am international maybe thats why

[urban gulch]

Ah dang that’s rough

[tardy geode]

very

[urban gulch]

Hope things work out for u my guy 🙏

[tardy geode]

i am still applying but today the demotivation point hit rock bottom

[urban gulch]

Yeah that sounds really tough, are u graduated?

[tardy geode]

Linkedin , google jobs . i am applying to even exp roles not only NG roles

[tardy geode]

i graduate in a month

[lunar hatch]

I think for 2k at least you will get oa

It’s auto I think

[tardy geode]

i did but 3-4 just

[urban gulch]

Dang school + apps is rough

[tardy geode]

i have given up on school at this point

i have a close to perfect gpa until now

so idc at this point about school

[lunar hatch]

Keep your heads up

[tardy geode]

thats what i am doing but today its just hard man .

why tf alll this bs had to happen in 2023

[lunar hatch]

Yeah ik it’s hella tough

[urban gulch]

Damn I can’t say I get ur pain cuz I’ve never applied to so many apps but if I had 2k apps with no offer I’d feel dejected too

[tardy geode]

last night i could barely sleep

[lunar hatch]

Tbh 2k process is a bit subjective

Especially for the take home where they took quite a while to grade

[urban gulch]

2k is a pretty objective number if u ask me

Ig give or take

But ~2k I’m guessing

[lunar hatch]

Does anyone know the package for linden shore

It’s cpp heavy but it’s crypto so kinda unstable

[lone rapids]

Sadge i did not

[lunar hatch]

How long ago did you apply

I got oa 3weeks after applying

So it’s very slow

[lone rapids]

I think i applied mutiple times. Latest 3 days ago

[lunar hatch]

Just wait a while imo

[swift falcon]

bro don't go on reddit that shit is depressing

doomer

makes me feel hopeless

[neon perch]

Does C3.ai ever respond?

[faint umbra]

I am still waiting to hear back after my oa and its been 2 months

[jovial latch]

id imagine very capable engineers at google or a buncha other faang tier companies cant do lc hards

because all lc hards are good at is showing how good you are at solving lc hards

you can make an excuse for lc easy and maybe a few mediums

but shits just bs

it especially seems more ridicolous when you've already worked under a proper software engineering team and have pushed code to production

[obsidian crater]

I don't even know what companies want anymore lol

I got a referral to some position, heard nothing back and they posted a new job ad for the same position lol.

I think they just don't want to hire me

[swift falcon]

worst feeling ever

[prisma flax]

i feel you man

[jovial latch]

recruiters drop resumes like how interns drop the database

thats my belief anyway, i dont consider recruiters capable in any regard

[prisma flax]

I feel they dont even see our resumes

[obsidian crater]

I'm so depressed

Never been this depressed

[prisma flax]

I applied few jobs and got reject within 2-3 hours

it's a phase man, don't be so demotivated, just take a break and start again

[obsidian crater]

I'd feel less bad if I wasn't international

[vital leaf]

I need emotional support animal/person

[shut crescent]

tf where do u work

[vital leaf]

[shut crescent]

im at 110k in the bay im getting fucked

[vital leaf]

me: jobless af

[young peak]

Google

Got in at 265k

Had an 8% raise

So 290k

[jovial latch]

most likely not, shits just rng

[lone rapids]

What lvl u at

[pine topaz]

💀 what is ur name 💀

care to explain? 💀

[vital leaf]

Guess my name

Im am trying to harness the harness

[pine topaz]

wat

[vital leaf]

what is harness

[pine topaz]

a safety thing

[obsidian crater]

Yahkuna

[teal jackal]

I find it fascinating how revature recruiters are so aggressive

They'll create 10 burner accounts and contact you by any means possible

[jovial latch]

probably have to reach quota limits so they get paid or somet shit

[teal jackal]

That's because revature is extremely predatory

The boot camp only exists as a legal pretense to lock people in for 2 years

[ornate cliff]

at least you're getting contacted

[obsidian crater]

I'll contact you

No jobs though

[teal jackal]

Are u ex zon? Apply to ramp and get all 4 flags

[ornate cliff]

i did

[ornate cliff]

[swift falcon]

@lunar sonnet bro you been on the receiving end of applications right?

like you've been a part of hiring process for candidates? I am wondering about the percentage of people that you actually have to go up against when there are like 100 applications for a position (like on linkedin) - how many of those are legit and how many are just chaff? (anybody else that has insight, please feel free to chime in)

[lunar hatch]

is there a zon->ramp pipeline?

i haven't heard of it

[ornate cliff]

someone should make the pipeline it would help

[grizzled bronze]

Yes, not the zon you think though. Only Yahkunazon, they reject Amazon.

[teal jackal]

Ah I ask because I passed resume screen with 4 flags and 2 internships(one IT/Devops internship at a local company, one SWE at zon)

Yakhunazon ofc

[ornate cliff]

did you interview?

[lunar hatch]

last year i also got ramp phone interview but it was very late

[teal jackal]

Ceo of Jane street comes to DM me every day offering to twerk for me if I accept the offer
Yakhunazon prestige power is insane

[young peak]

L3

[lunar hatch]

and this year i got straight rejected

[teal jackal]

Resume screen is random

That's true

[lunar hatch]

also in what aspect is ramp huge, like compared to other fintech?

i.e. stripe and plaid

[ornate cliff]

don't think they're all that... NYC is nice tho

[lunar hatch]

yeah but it seems getting into ramp is even much harder than HFT

[ornate cliff]

LMAO no

[late kestrel]

they probs just hire way less lol

[lunar hatch]

like normally 2sig/cit hire way more

[teal jackal]

Yakhoogle > Yakhunazon

[lunar hatch]

and afaik ramp had like ~5 rounds

[teal jackal]

I wish I got into yakhoogle tbh

[ornate cliff]

because they're like 100 times the size

[teal jackal]

Interesting, no wonder rare to get an offer

[ornate cliff]

Citadel at least

[lunar hatch]

yeah and i think interview difficulty ramp >> cit/2sig

you gotta know security, algo, sql, etc.

[ornate cliff]

what really?

[lunar hatch]

and vibe with the team well

[ornate cliff]

that shit is easier than LC no? 😅

[obsidian crater]

Feel like giving up lol

[lunar hatch]

it's easier once you know the rules right?

[obsidian crater]

Gonna get deported and be broke

[ornate cliff]

wdym rules

[lunar hatch]

like there are tons of topics in security

making it hard to prepare

[obsidian crater]

Yeah

[ornate cliff]

oh I see

[obsidian crater]

Security is broad

[ornate cliff]

yeah it's tricky

[obsidian crater]

That's why penetration testing certs are hard to get

My friend has one and even he got rejected from Amazon

[lunar hatch]

for lc it's just algo/ds content and once you know the pattern it's way easier

[obsidian crater]

True

[lunar hatch]

big techs usually want generalists

[obsidian crater]

Yeah he went to work for a contractor

[lunar hatch]

specialists are much more suited for startup/unicorn

[ornate cliff]

amazon dgaf about those certs tho 😅

[obsidian crater]

Idk the job was for pen testing

[sleek owl]

Anyone knows SoFi interview process?

I heard no pair programming after the online assessment, is that true?

[ornate cliff]

search on blind I see some threads there

[jade solar]

??? There's two tech interviews

[fallen fox]

i interviewed at sofi last year

it goes like this:

OA > recruiter > coding 1 > coding 2 > final

or recruiter > oa etc

[obsidian crater]

Didn't even get an OA

[fallen fox]

2nd round is LC + SQL

3rd coding round is OOP or LC + technical questions on frameworks/languages used by SoFi + stuff listed on your resume

final round is Technical questions/behavioral

[jade solar]

SQL? how hard of a query?

[fallen fox]

moderate

i think the sql part...they dont ask everyone

[ornate cliff]

how to practice for SQL? I hate that shit

[fallen fox]

moderate

whatever is listed on your resume..you should know how they work

also look up whatever sofi uses

[fallen fox]

https://leetcode.com/list/e97a9e5m/

[shut crescent]

nice

how many yrs of experience u at rn and what was ur starting salary if u dont mind me asking lol

[young peak]

Starting TC was 265k and I've been here for 6 months?

[ornate cliff]

265 at GOOG? holy fk that's high

[young peak]

Yeah it's pretty good for my LOC too Im in Seattle

I think after tax I actually make more than folk in the bay that make more than me lmao

[ornate cliff]

[young peak]

All I want is a promo now

L3 ain't safe no more

[ornate cliff]

how did you start at such a high TC?

I thought GOOG lowballs af

[frank wedge]

Then stop using the staplers

[young peak]

I nego-ed with Citadel and Bloomberg

[young peak]

They gone bro

[frank wedge]

I feel like cutting one L3 would meet the cost of all stapler usages

[ornate cliff]

I volunteer as tribute

[young peak]

@dire yarrow

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-cry-sad-gun-aim-gif-16220733

[vital leaf]

gravity

gravity is a harness

my entire life, my entire career has been devoted to this idea , this moment

nithing will ever be the same

why!!!!!!

the field is faling hhholh it together

[young peak]

If they cut me I think we can finally start getting peach flavored Chobani in the MKs

[vital leaf]

gravity is a harness

I will harness the harness

[sleek owl]

can I dm u?

[vital leaf]

sure Dm me

[fallen fox]

sure

[ornate cliff]

mr @young peak how did you promo in 6 months

oh you said just salary bump

nvm

[young peak]

Gravity is a seatbelt

[vital leaf]

Gravity is Ramp

[swift falcon]

gravideez nuts

[obsidian crater]

what

[sleek owl]

is there actually a religion that doesn't allow that?

[jovial latch]

average software engineer

[timber rock]

yeah its called computer science

[jovial latch]

yea pretty much

a woman? not at my job reeeeee

[grizzled bronze]

Fucking Tateologists

[sleek owl]

What color is your bugatti?

[vital leaf]

what color is your spaceship?

[sleek owl]

green ☘️

[ornate cliff]

#freetopg

[shut crescent]

damn brother

i make 110k in the bay, prob going to only save like 70k a yr

and thats only cuz i dont pay rent

maybe even less tbh cuz ima start maxing my 401k

as a new grad 265k is insane tbh never heard of that

[frank wedge]

How tf can you save 70k off of 110k?

That’s like post tax alone

[tardy geode]

Yogi "Sigma" Chad

[shut crescent]

living with parents haha

[obsidian crater]

It's over bro

[gilded swan]

I just did leg day boys. I don’t like leg day.

[shut crescent]

do u live in the bay?

[obsidian crater]

I like how #2023_grad_process is mostly dead

[neon perch]

Fr man SQL sucks

[shut crescent]

prob less now that i think about it

50-60k cuz of 401k

but still grateful ig cuz the market is so bad rn

[jovial latch]

im fucked

fuckin hate my life

[obsidian crater]

same

[sleek owl]

I love SQL

and system design

i hate L

LC

[neon perch]

System design and LC is good

But man SQL wtf is that

Is there a good resource to practice SQL

[jovial latch]

sql is fine you can just brute force your way to the right answer on OA's

and sql basics i dont think are that bad

[ornate cliff]

Babe wake up, Palantir dropped a new job

[sleek owl]

i heard a lot of people are stuck in team matching or soemthing for palantir

[obsidian crater]

could be a fake job posting

like many of them are

I hate companies that make you answer "Why do you want to work here"?

[tardy geode]

this

[livid yew]

Cool tech, provide awesome products for the customer

Are my usual reasons

Stuff like researching bleeding edge

[cloud zinc]

thats where gpt comes in

great for interviews too, since you have a script to remember and follow

[young peak]

enters the HFT chads

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-team-gun-captain-america-squad-gif-17755537

[lime moth]

Sql is so easy compared to system design imo. Just had system design for the first time in my interview today, was pretty wack tbh

[neon perch]

Man why do they ask what interests you and stuff ffs gotta write short essays for it

[neon perch]

I agree it’s easy but I think personally I find it harder to cope with idk why. Been trying to get much better at it but the entire working on that language just sometimes confused me

Like I can solve a question and wonder why that worked

[lime moth]

Yea I feel that

[swift falcon]

what was your system design interview like?

im curious

[lime moth]

They literally asked me to design their entire product lol

It was an hour and I pretty much just asked a bunch of questions and after I had initial high level design they proposed different things and I changed it based on that

[obsidian crater]

sheesh

[dense ocean]

in conclusion im fked

[lime moth]

Don’t think that many places do system design for new grad tho tbh

[obsidian crater]

so fucked

[lime moth]

yea

7 hr in person interview if I don’t get this job I give up

[swift falcon]

what da fkkkk

so they were like 'build me an email client'

and then you went through like what stack you'd use and like the C4 diagram or some shit

[lime moth]

No like one of these diagrams and I had to explain what tech id use for each part

[swift falcon]

omg wtf

we have to know infrastructure now?

[lime moth]

Idk I don’t think it’s common

[dense ocean]

bruh for 7 hrs ima need steve jobs himself to cone back from the grave and kiss my hand and practically beg me to get the job as CEO 💀💀

[swift falcon]

how many yoe do you have?

[lime moth]

0

[swift falcon]

i'm impressed, I wouldn't have known where to start

[lime moth]

I took this course and another one for web architecture on educative https://www.educative.io/path/deep-dive-into-system-design-interview

Pretty good course

And I watched a NeetCode system design yt vid on the train to it and that actually was decently similar

[dense ocean]

Thank you boss ill do it religiously

[lime moth]

Glhf

Boring as hell studying that stuff

[outer radish]

wtf palentir is stil hiring

LORD JESUS PLEASE PALENTIR

[dense ocean]

bro wants it bad 💀

[outer radish]

the only ethics i care is about is how many 0s are in my bank account

[dense ocean]

amen

[outer radish]

redacted

[dense ocean]

bro had to say “we” 🤧 underhanded flex

[outer radish]

maybe positive outlook for 2023? more then anticipated

yah to be fair its weird timing, specially with the financial markets in this weird ass time

lol true

prayers up for me boys and girlss

im diving in

damn you caught me mid dm to u lmaooo

if you're free to refer again at some point in the future

ur boy's been grinding LC and system design

fuck elon i can build u twitter in an hour and a half

[dense ocean]

dats the time it took for him to fire half the company

[shut crescent]

design questions arent common for new grads

for like senior level positions they are for sure common

[outer radish]

lmao facts

[shut crescent]

they are not common for new grad

[swift falcon]

lol good to know, bruh I thought system design was like app architecture or sth like that

[shut crescent]

who did u interview with that asked design questions lol

[dense ocean]

lc stats? 👀

[outer radish]

tbh that motivates me more to know that someone doing me nice gets a bonus out of it

[outer radish]

260 but contests and cp practice boutta boost me outta this fucking recession

[shut crescent]

how up cuz im not scrolling higher than 3-4 pages lmfao

[outer radish]

• unemployment this summer

we fucking grindninggggg

[dense ocean]

it was 3-4 💀

messages*

[outer radish]

some mid sized companies have been asking it too

which is so fucky cause you dont touch design at least for large scale until you hit like SDE 3 or some shit

[shut crescent]

oh i guess im blind

i interviewed for bloomberg they didnt ask me any system design questions tho

well they didn't tell me to design it but ig they asked verbal questions about it

[dense ocean]

okay boys. gn to yall and ill go do my daily routine of crying myself to sleep 🙏😎

[wind drum]

is palantir cooldown 6 months

[shut crescent]

do u mean like verbal design questions or like flat out make an entire end to end system? lmao

tf thats crazy

ive never even heard of like big tech asking design questiojns

it should be very unlikely to be asked those cuz its new grad positions tf

thats crazy if they ask u to deign an end to end system lmfao

[jaunty basalt]

the expectation isnt very high though

like yes youll be asked it

but its not some super deep dive

[outer radish]

does bloomberg require top school?

[wind drum]

palantir asked me to create a UI in mine lmao

[outer radish]

i swear i could not pass their resume screen

[jaunty basalt]

i got asked at bloomberg, atlassian, apple, airtable

shit even walmart

[outer radish]

how'd u do in airtable

[wind drum]

no it was standard

[shut crescent]

what did they ask specifically?

[jaunty basalt]

of all the places i just listed i passed all but them

[outer radish]

damn

congrats jheez

whats the strat prep

[jaunty basalt]

completly my fault

[jaunty basalt]

apply last year

[outer radish]

😔

[shut crescent]

can u list 1 system design questions either of those companies asked u?

[wind drum]

nah it was just the backend one lol idk my interviewer was freewheeling

[outer radish]

their take home caught me with my pants down ngl

[jaunty basalt]

airtable?

[outer radish]

yeah

[jaunty basalt]

there wasnt a take home for me it was an OA

[shut crescent]

alrighty ig not lmao

[jaunty basalt]

LC style

[outer radish]

ah yeah, I shoulda chose that instead

[wind drum]

it was extremely basic tho like all i had was a black sharpie thing on a virtual whiteboard

[shut crescent]

what system design question did palantir ask u?

[delicate sigil]

can you list few companies?

[jaunty basalt]

no but i can tell you its literally given some task with plenty of users how would you do it

[outer radish]

fuck, i shoulda just did prep instead of grind at zon

honestly that fucked me over so hard

[jaunty basalt]

as generic as it its theres always gonna be a db

so u can start there

sorry im pepega i meant im a 2022 grad

[shut crescent]

did u get into any of them @jagged ravine

[jaunty basalt]

cuz like atlassian for example got rid of system design for 2023 grads

[shut crescent]

sheesh nice

[delicate sigil]

yes.....

[jaunty basalt]

the only company ik that made it easier

[shut crescent]

where do u work now then?

[jaunty basalt]

strangely enough

[shut crescent]

yeah figured

nice

palantir in the bay?

[delicate sigil]

the ones...which are sending OAs and recruiting right now

[shut crescent]

oh nice

200k + package i assume?

yeah nice

i almost got into nyc rippling fucked up on the last round lmfao

[wind drum]

i thought rippling cancelled their ng hiring

[shut crescent]

rippling salaries are insane right now apparently

who tf knows

[jaunty basalt]

they havent changed, they got rid of their bonus

what u talking about bro lol

[shut crescent]

new grad salaries are apparently super high

[outer radish]

they're all sweatshops

[shut crescent]

i know a senior who works there

[jaunty basalt]

the base was 150

[shut crescent]

the new grads are making more than seniors there now though apparently lol

[jaunty basalt]

plus like 50k stonks

[outer radish]

holy fuck

[shut crescent]

pretty sure it was way more lol

[jaunty basalt]

thats what i remembered

[shut crescent]

my friend got new grad package of 190k base in nyc

yeah and a shitton of stocks to go with it

he joined in 2021

yup its even crazier now apparently

they have a strong ass team dude

they definitely do lol my friend negotiated a shitton of rsu's

i dont think they negotiate base tho cuz its already high

[jaunty basalt]

dude i literally know return interns

they decreased it by 20%

[shut crescent]

my brother helped him negotiate more rsu's and he got so many that he told my brother if they ipo he'll buy him a porsche gt3rs

thats how large his package got

[outer radish]

ayo your brother got tips

[jaunty basalt]

so like 150 plus 170/4 ish

no bonus

[shut crescent]

hes a nerd yeah he goes to medical school

he just has a lot of research papers and knows how to word things

[outer radish]

scientific papers do go crazy

what's everyone's take on this year's NG

gonna be fucked or naw

[shut crescent]

whats NG?

[outer radish]

im stressin

[cloud zinc]

I'm praying to whatever above that things get better for NG roles

[shut crescent]

oh lmao

[jaunty basalt]

bro ur asking whats NG???

[cloud zinc]

shits more barren than Q4 2022

[shut crescent]

bro im a noob i have 110k in the bay im on the low spectrum

[outer radish]

tbh everyone keeps saying recession

[cloud zinc]

and Q1 of this year

[outer radish]

i say FUCK recession

[shut crescent]

i failed all big tech i shouldve studied harder lmfao

amazon, apple, google etc got fucked

ended up at a nontech and now im trying to gtfo

[jaunty basalt]

like ur telling me u didnt get why yogi TC is like 270 like earlier today but rippling was normal

[shut crescent]

i just didnt think google offered that much for new grads lol

[trim jacinth]

my dumbass accepted scale for nyc and now they're deporting me to sf 💀

[shut crescent]

i thought it would be around 180k range

[sand spire]

I thought it is around 180k, no?

[shut crescent]

no some dude apparently said 265k

[jaunty basalt]

i think its like 190 but u need to negotitate for anything higher

[shut crescent]

thats why i was like wtf didnt know they offered that much

yeah lol thats pretty nuts

[sand spire]

yeah I think 265k is an outlier

at least you have a job though

[shut crescent]

ig we prob wont be hearing those types of offers any time soon again

[sand spire]

still luckier than tons of people out there

[jaunty basalt]

nah itll happen

theyll either not tell us or its just that rare

[shut crescent]

i keep getting denied everywhere lol

[jovial latch]

i wanna throw myself out the window hearing all this tbh, i just want some dumbass 80k job while yall out here negoitating to 200k

[shut crescent]

idek i just stopped applying and started prepping for interviews tbh

[jaunty basalt]

damn dropbox?

havent heard of them in a minute

[jovial latch]

been feeling a lot of that lately

[shut crescent]

i have like 1 YOE part experience and just started full time this monday, i keep getting denied from everywhere so i just quit

[jaunty basalt]

cuz they open apps in january

at least thats what ppl say

in 2022

[sand spire]

I feel you man, when I got laid off, I just need a job

[jovial latch]

i dunno man this season is about done

at least id think

[jaunty basalt]

keep in mind q2 just started so maybe, just maybe smaller companies just got news of HC

and they reach out

[shut crescent]

when you get that 80k you'll want that 100k+ its just how it goes

[cloud zinc]

bro where the hell are the new grad roles?

[outer radish]

senior dev at zon that works with DDB told me that this shit happens to him

even at like 10 + YOE

[cloud zinc]

nice pun

[jaunty basalt]

someone else ik at meta said the same thing then the whole disaster happened

[outer radish]

kinda wild they fired that many people

[jaunty basalt]

and they can no longer update me lol

[outer radish]

tthen are taking on more now

[shut crescent]

i honestly just want like a 180k job after a year and ill be happy haha

[outer radish]

really just a hand wave of investors

[sand spire]

well I am happy with 150k cash only tbh

[jaunty basalt]

u have to do training at palantir right

or some orientation at the start?

just something i heard about like u go to dc

[shut crescent]

u have a job that pays u 150k base rn?

[jaunty basalt]

oh optional

oh

i see

i mean plenty of companies just have to go on ur way on ur team

like its ur standard videos

but i mean like tech stack

training with actual projects

idk

lol

im asking

i think so though

not for too long

i feel you just relax

for me i just search everywhere for details

meta has that bootcamp right but its basically find a team time

[tardy geode]

they gonna layoff shit ton by may

i don't think they would recruit

[jaunty basalt]

yeah i heard the same thing but then round 2 so it didnt make much sense anymore

[jovial latch]

at least the metaverse is dead

[tardy geode]

Just take whatever you get , its a tanking economy

[jaunty basalt]

holy shit

[sand spire]

wow, how is your TC right now @jagged ravine?

[jaunty basalt]

that stat is pretty cool

but 10% is ridiculous growth

[sand spire]

damn, that sounds pretty

[jaunty basalt]

do u know how raises work there?

ik u didnt start yet

but maybe u heard of something

[tardy geode]

rn bootstrapped startups that have been runnning since 10-15 years are the safest

[outer radish]

guess this would be manager relationship?

[tardy geode]

they didn't hire shit crzy

[outer radish]

gotta get that rizz up

[jaunty basalt]

i mean manager isnt the only one involved

in fact theyre probably not the best person

like its start with skip i feel

[outer radish]

fair, but thats what they told me at zon

[jaunty basalt]

and even higher

thats zon

[outer radish]

and the manager was the sole decider for me

[jaunty basalt]

dont u not get a raise at zon

[outer radish]

no return

so only raise im getting is unemployment

[jaunty basalt]

oh thats interesting

never heard of that

[tardy geode]

they gave returns then delayed

[outer radish]

ngl i finished my project, had a great presentation, had a good relationship with my team

[jaunty basalt]

so how involved is that person, or are they just there to sign off?

[outer radish]

but the skip and manager either moved to microsoft or were on sabbatical

[jaunty basalt]

yeah makes sense

i mean not only did they delay, ppl are getting moved

[tardy geode]

well thats the case in all firms

[outer radish]

naw, they told me hiring freeze tho for the org leading up to my final two weeks

[jaunty basalt]

like ppl locations changed

cuz of RTO

[outer radish]

so i think i just got fucked

[jaunty basalt]

yeah i wanted nyc

lol

for the pay bump

[tardy geode]

my manager was/is shit

[jaunty basalt]

it might be less take home but like just the TC

exactly

lmao

[outer radish]

tbf i heard of some awesome teams within aws

proper engineers, no bad wlb

just expectation of delivery though

[jaunty basalt]

and cuz it was seattle, u had to play the no income tax card

when negotiating

cuz u didnt want it to go to waste

doesnt matter, it didnt work

oh i thought palantir was a flat rate

[atomic oxide]

Palantir's process for most people was like 4 months long right?

[jaunty basalt]

when do u start the process? first interview right? lol

[atomic oxide]

Ah yeah I don't have the willpower to go for that anymore this hiring cycle

But that timeline is pretty good

I'm happy with Chewy

I've basically not LC'ed in like 5 months

So I would bomb out of Palantir in the technicals

Yeah the TC isn't as crazy as some of y'alls but I'm not complaining about having a new grad job

Plus being able to bring a dog in is a super nice benefit lol

[cedar gulch]

You can bring a dog in??

shoot the listing is closed

F

[neon perch]

Chewy had their opening up for like 2 days?

[swift falcon]

greetings fellows

I have a dilemma

[late kestrel]

[swift falcon]

do I grind out some apps
or do I wait until I hear back tomorrow from interview?

What do the gods of JuJu suggest?

what will give me the most benefits

am I cursing or blessing the result tomorrow?

[late kestrel]

go bed

[swift falcon]

and the gods replied with a rejection email, 11:13 PM

but also a status change on a job on workday? "Congratulations on being selected to interview with <Company Team>. Have we told you how excited we are to meet you!"

two omens

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-worried-worrying-what-happened-to-him-gif-17689293

[tawdry nacelle]

You go back and check workday apps? I thought they email you for interviews

[swift falcon]

I check for rejections mainly, have caught a few early

but this one had a status change I think (or i might be smoking sth tbh, there are a lot)

and I think it might reflect me getting an onsite interview? (so like 2nd round?!?)

[prisma flax]

are you international ?

[shut crescent]

what does an offer at chewy look like if u dont mind me asking haha

i got denied there 50 times

[neon perch]

I wanted to ask the same question to those that got Flexport offers 🥲

The sadness is REAL

[narrow harbor]

hoping all this lc, project building, and job apps all amount to something

[onyx sparrow]

[pulsar monolith]

bro you got an offer from palantir. bloomberg sys design is nothing to you

[tardy geode]

wise resume rejected me

[lunar hatch]

does wise have ng position?

ah they not sponsoring h1b anyways

🥲

[brave forge]

does this mean december grads are elegible

[teal jackal]

yeah, it's meant to exclude people who already graduated

december grad is still final year

god revature recruiters are so aggressive
they found my email address, they're not even doing it through linkedin anymore
they sent me an email about their predatory grad program twice by now
and its also a red flag how none of these recruiters use real photos
I want them to never contact me again

[cloud zinc]

has anyone completed the online assessment for Wise?

just got their hackerrank invite today and I would like to prepare as much as possible outside of usual LC grinding

[timber rock]

i did it for the london position a few months ago

[tardy geode]

bro that company is a scam , stay away from it

[chilly burrow]

Ehhh I'd apply anyway

[timber rock]

iirc it wasnt leetcode style, it was getting data with http requests and printing the correct data from the resulting json

[cyan cosmos]

is it LC?

[timber rock]

and an sql question as well i think

[cyan cosmos]

ah got it

[cloud zinc]

Sweet. That's even better

[timber rock]

it could be different for US so don't blame me if it's lc lol

[cloud zinc]

I mean I think the same thing happened when I took their test a while ago, so I'm not sure

[teal jackal]

oh yeah I know

it's a very predatory program because of the bootcamp repayment clause

just venting that they need to go away and stop messaging me

[timber rock]

as of today all my scheduled interviews are over. the waiting game begins

[teal jackal]

[timber rock]

bruh interviewed with a company in c# last week where i got a solution with 15 mins left and the guy said he's very impressed cause they dont expect us to finish on time. also said dont worry about lack of c# experience, you can pick it up on the job. just got a rejection rn and the reaosn given was "we are looking for someone with more c# experience"

[lunar hatch]

yeah the market rn is competitive

maybe a senior in c# just interviewed with the position

[tardy geode]

report them to FBI for harrasment

[lunar hatch]

anyone heard back from 2k after the take home?

[late kestrel]

[livid yew]

Cheddy get back to class

[late kestrel]

i am at gym

[pine topaz]

cheddy it is LUNCH HOURS

not GYM time

[sleek owl]

Anyone had a super day with bny Mellon?

[late kestrel]

you must be in a loser time zone

CST supremacy

[tardy geode]

bruh

[late kestrel]

honestly bummed im gonna be in EST soon

[tardy geode]

MST > all ST

[late kestrel]

mega sucks when games are being played in PST and youre 3 hours ahead lol

yeah MST is similarly good but not as good bc east coast is better

sports wise

[livid yew]

East coast beast coast

[pine topaz]

east c oast and west coast will suffer ffrom cliamte catasopheres in the future and midwestt will be the best states

mark my words

[sonic coral]

Linking up with my friends online sucked when I was in Seattle because by the time I was ready to hop on they were already like getting ready for bed lol

[sonic coral]

Why not both

[swift falcon]

by the time this happens I'll be a senior dev, and my property will probably be prime lake-front land

[late kestrel]

yeah fr, at least in CST you have some sort of middle ground

[swift falcon]

I DM for a group with ppl in PST, MST and EST

2 ppl that dropped were EST iirc, cause we would go to 1 AM their time

[late kestrel]

wipe the west coast

@bleak raven

[slender apex]

based

[bleak raven]

[dusky lark]

If Palantir is not hiring anymore
Why does the postings bot post new openings for NY FDSE?

[whole roost]

https://tenor.com/view/calling-tell-me-more-wizard-gif-14406275

Hold up lemme consult my palantir

[young peak]

Me rn lmfao

[young peak]

Open listings for green card PERM app purposes

[chilly burrow]

Becuz they just opened a new posting

[tardy geode]

@pure mauve how cracked are you . mad respect . you the only one i see getting interviews like hot cakes

[pure mauve]

Dude I was high while applying for these jobs

[tardy geode]

https://techcrunch-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/techcrunch.com/2023/04/05/bob-lee-creator-of-cash-app-and-former-cto-of-square-stabbed-to-death/amp/

[teal jackal]

SF = excessively progressive city turned into a shithole city

[teal jackal]

extremely shocking and saddening to hear man

[tardy geode]

ikr

I had been to SF , it was hell

[static quarry]

Does anyone know what the tech screen for spacex application software engineer is like

i have it coming up and am wondering what to study for it

or if there is a specific chat to ask these questions

[novel rain]

Cringe. SF has a low violent crime rate

the discourse around this city is so poisoned by ideology its impossible to even talk about it

[jaunty storm]

I’m a SF native. I wonder how much it’s changed in the past decade?

[verbal ore]

https://youtu.be/TnC666Ts3wA

[polar quail]

for me it was a mix of behavioral and technical, but mostly technical. Tbh I felt like the behavioral was more difficult than the technical lol. But it could vary by team I believe.

[novel rain]

Pretty much true

Hating on SF for “progressivism” gives me go woke go broke Ben Shapiro tier vibes

[timber rock]

it's always hilarious when Americans blame bad things on progressivism even though they're so much more conservative than most of the western world

[novel rain]

It’s significantly safer than shithole red states

But in general American cities skew unsafe

Not bc of the woke meme

[static quarry]

Ive heard its team dependent but for application software engineer the recruiter made it seem like the interview process is the same for everyone

for the technical questions im assuming the typical data struct/alg questions?

[polar quail]

for a screen (technical) I'm not too sure bc for me it was just a leetcode easy explaining my logic. Then OOP questions, then a question on computer networks (TCP/UDP) and some other stuff I don't remember lol.

[static quarry]

Ive heard the same thing from someone else

ty for the help

[polar quail]

np gl bro. Also they'll grill you on your resume. You gotta know the technicals of the projects/experience you explain. At least thats what they did with me. So just keep that in mind.

[static quarry]

🤝🤝 i have good knowledge of my projects and i have previous intern experience to talk about so im good on that part

Also blacklist nordstrom they rescinded all FT offers a week ago

[lime moth]

No but I have the karat interview today how was that for you

[sleek owl]

It was chill an easy coding question and a 3 time complexity/space complexity questions

[lime moth]

Cool cool thanks

[tacit jasper]

I just reneged my amazon offer because they tried to relocate me. Anyone have the new-grad position application list? (I graduate Dec 2023)

I mean I didn't officially renege yet, but Im not going either way

and I told them on the phone Im gonna renege but they still sent the new offer I didnt reply yet

Im not going to seattle bruh

I literally went thru manager approval to get my job location moved to NY, like a whole month process well in advance of my start date, 2 months before the position starts they call me saying they need to move me to fucking seattle, and theres nothing I can do. And also they lowered my TC on top of that

[novel rain]

something i find funny is that anytime something happens in SF the media is all over it and paints the city as a dystopian hellscape. yet the constant mass shootings in Nashville or wherever (cities with way higher violent crime than SF) yet they're still seen as hot upcoming places

[tacit jasper]

I basically told them to go fuck themself on the phone

[novel rain]

unplug your brain from the media please

[tacit jasper]

so yeah out of principle I am not gonna work there

[verbal ore]

Very bold to do that in this economy

[tacit jasper]

U rlly think I can't get anything in 9 months?

[verbal ore]

Just that 50k signing bonus is FAT

[tacit jasper]

Oh yeah u keep the bonus and relocation stipend if u renege lmao

[novel rain]

i live here my guy

are you trying to tell me it's an 800k large homeless encampment?

stop watching fox news lmao

[verbal ore]

Bonus is return in full??

[tacit jasper]

No not the sign on bonus

but relocation stipend

if u accept the money and then renege they dont take it b ack

nah they said I can keep if I decline

[novel rain]

lmao LA is disgusting urban sprawl

no thanks

[tacit jasper]

What if I just accept and then the day before the start day send an email which is just copy-pasted their relocation email about "business needs" for why I am not starting

gamer move

[obsidian crater]

what

It's a company bro

Just collect cash and leave

I'll take your amazon job if you don't want it

[tacit jasper]

In general yes, but for these specific RTO relocations, they arent charging back if u already accepted it

if u didnt accept it before they relocated then u obviously can't

p much

yes amazon doing company wide rto

top down enforced

most managers dont even gaf but theyre forcing it

[novel rain]

amazon sucks but dont renege, just bite the bullet and work there until you get a 2nd offer

and by probability you might not even make it 1.5 years

its too risky

[tacit jasper]

well I have 9 months to get another offer which is why im asking for the list lol

[obsidian crater]

lmao

There are like no jobs dude

[novel rain]

yeah 9 months doesnt really seem like a lot, we are just bottoming out now

[tacit jasper]

the list is for this year so most of them are closed im asking for next years

[novel rain]

maybe in 9 months things will recover a bit

[tacit jasper]

they dont have listings for winter grads?

gay

[novel rain]

bro theres no new grad season 💀

its first come first serve

yeah if you renege theres a very large possibility it will be one of the worst decisions you ever make

i mean just assemble a pros and cons list

there are no pros lol

get the experience, get the money, keep your head down and get fired or whatever

sounds good to me over being jobless lol

[timber rock]

can i do a bit of identity theft if you dont want your offer?

i kinda need a job x

bro i saw that msg 😂 and not sure if i should laugh or cry

[teal jackal]

This

robbery is nuts in SF and Portland

they have security guards at walmart of all places

Portland and SF shoplifting situation is nuts

people loot and literally just get away with it

[timber rock]

cheers brother. i'll be the best engineer cognizant has ever seen

[jovial latch]

if you see someone shoplift, you didnt

[grizzled bronze]

So perks of getting a job in Portland/SF = free food/groceries

[neon perch]

Is box sending out rejects rn?

[atomic oxide]

This is clearly somebody who's either never lived in California or has been so sheltered to have no understanding of city life lmao

[jovial latch]

lmao

[brave forge]

i thought SF was the better city and LA was worse off overall

[teal jackal]

its nuts how defensive people get about the simple reality that west coast major cities suck ass

[brave forge]

being a west coaster is a rope outcome

[atomic oxide]

In SF you deal with the occassional crazy homeless person and some discarded needles on the ground

[teal jackal]

fr bro

[brave forge]

now where is my california swe job 🥺

[atomic oxide]

In LA your next door neighbor could be a drug dealer

and there's a decent chance you're in a turf war every other night

If you think SF is dangerous, you'll die in LA

[teal jackal]

west coast TC for west coast shithole experience, I'd say it's a fair trade

I think a lot of people live in LA suburbs

a lot of sprawl

[jovial latch]

silicon valley is effectively a modern dystopia

[brave forge]

it is amazing that california is the richest state/country (if it was seperate from usa) in the world

[atomic oxide]

LA suburbs is where all the gangs are lol

Even a few blocks outside Disneyland has multiple gangs

[teal jackal]

thank USD and silicon valley hegemony for that

a californian making 70k aint living a better life than an estonian making 40k

[atomic oxide]

Also I don't really understand why y'all think west coast is a shithole. It's literally the same in every big city in the US

At least we have amazing national parks and skiing places to escape to

[teal jackal]

oh yeah NYC is ass too

for sure

thanks for reminding me

[jovial latch]

for me its the insane out of control rent problem in silicon valley and the homeless problem

though i view it as a warning sign for other big cities if nothing is done about it

looks at govt

[atomic oxide]

^Oh yeah I fully agree housing is this area's biggest issue

But I'd much much rather deal with SF's homeless population that what I've seen in LA/Chicago

[jovial latch]

idk if the govt has power to impose national rent control shit but this is going to inevitably reach a boiling point with people

[timber rock]

b-b-b-b--bb-but muh free market

[atomic oxide]

Yeah we'll see. With all the companies in this area imposing RTO, not sure rent control is gonna happen

Or even housing prices for that matter 😂

[jovial latch]

the national govt has refused to acknowledge the housing crisis as far as i know anyways

and hes definitely fucking aware

[atomic oxide]

Yeah idk

All I think is that I don't get why so many people in this channel refuse to move to the West Coast

[jovial latch]

It just means the housing crisis will never be acknowledged

[atomic oxide]

Give it a chance...there's no reason to so narrow-minded and fixated on NYC/east coast

[jovial latch]

I mean, I also just don't see the viability of California with all it's environmental problems

And again the housing crisis I don't want to put myself into that

Also I hate having to need a car

Like I don't see things improving in California at all

[verbal ore]

We got some sort of Stockholm Syndrome I swear

[swift falcon]

screaming crying throwing up rn

no email on advancing to 2nd round

[ornate cliff]

went to a lakers game and almost fell asleep

crowd was so fkn dead

[raw current]

Do you guys know any large tech companies or unicorn startups that are still hiring for new grad/ entry level roles?

[verbal ore]

Dogshit public transit

[swift falcon]

kuro be like

@lunar sonnet bro did u see my question a while back?

[novel rain]

SF is not silicon valley anyway

i wholeheartedly agree that silicon valley is a wasteland

culturally, aesthetically, spiritually

it is a dead zone

[obsidian crater]

But muh beautiful iPhone aesthetics

Muh glass buildings and muh freeways

Muh suburbia

[novel rain]

isn't it beautiful? just this exact same thing copy pasted for 50 miles straddling 6 lane stroads?

[timber rock]

i love american architecture

[bleak raven]

cuz it sucks lmfao

[novel rain]

home..

the freeway exit americacore shit is more endearing to me than the disgusting cube tech apartment spam

at least it has SOUL 🍔

[jovial latch]

i cant tell if serious or shitposting

there is no planet in which midrises look more disgusting than all the fuckin strip malls and gigantic parking lots and stroads everywhere in america

[novel rain]

theyre more disgusting to me yeah

especially what they represent

[jovial latch]

what do they represent

[novel rain]

what do you think

[jovial latch]

i honestly dont know

thats why im so curious

like i have no idea where you're going with this

i lived in a fuckin cul de sac in a decent enough suburb so i get sick of having to drive everywhere and all the big ass parking lots and strip malls, theres no character in it

[late kestrel]

omg me too i was at the end

[jovial latch]

having lived in a city now my personal experience is that im much fucking happier being able to walk places

and public transit

[novel rain]

where do you live?

the gross cube midrises i posted are suburban as well

[verbal ore]

destroy car culture

[novel rain]

to me they represent all the societal decay associated with the tech industry/silicon valley

[verbal ore]

make public transit good

[jovial latch]

those exist in suburbs because suburbs were already poorly designed to beggin with, by making it more dense it improves things

its better than copy pasted houses

ik a bunch of suburbs in america are trying to densify and undo the sprawl that has happened over the years

midrises is usually one of thse solutions

[late kestrel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-over-1

[jovial latch]

so i like midrises

[fossil jewel]

i know like 5 places that look like this irl lmaoo

[novel rain]

i like midrises too, but not those gross poorly constructed kitsch tech apartments

[jovial latch]

yea thats kinda the point you'd find that everywhere

[brave forge]

ohhh so they are called midrises

i think they are copying russia with the soviet block apartments

[novel rain]

theyre literally depressing to look at, especially when they pop up in gentrified areas

and you know the people in them are literally just pod people

they take a shuttle to their tech office, a shuttle home, never participate in society

[fossil jewel]

i like nyc, it’s pretty

[novel rain]

contribute nothing to society

[fossil jewel]

im@biased

[novel rain]

silicon valley is disgusting

and those midrises are just the perfect representation of it, to me at least

[brave forge]

sometimes they work from home

[jovial latch]

gentrification is a whole another issue lol hehe
personally ive always been a function over aesthetic kinda guy, i dont care how a midrise looks cause ya know, youre gonna be seeing the inside of it, and its got more character than copy pasted homes

the way i see it midrises are an improvement over stupid suburban houses

true they could look better

[novel rain]

i see. tbh aesthetic is extremely important to me which partly causes me to be so biased

[jovial latch]

the average guy just wants to afford rent

[timber rock]

public transport is free here and goes everywhere in the city and the entire city is walkable

i love being european

[brave forge]

shhh you get 35k/yr

[novel rain]

public transpo is free in SF too

[timber rock]

holy guacamole

[novel rain]

i mean not officially

[jovial latch]

thats cause they actually get shit like free health care and worker rights

and being able to afford rent

[brave forge]

u dont need free health care in a tech job 😎

[novel rain]

ughhh

[brave forge]

and u can easily afford a place on a tech salary

[novel rain]

i didn't know those had a name

[late kestrel]

they sure do

[fossil jewel]

brexit bruh

[timber rock]

35k is only for shitty entry level jobs

you can earn quite a lot with a few yoe

also 35k is perfectly liveable in london

[timber rock]

i cry 😭

[fossil jewel]

i mean COL is bad in london but not switzerland bad

[jovial latch]

ah you know what, i think its not the midrises, its how they're made right, fuckin modern architecture
old ones with like brick and shit look more aesthetically pleasing then metal glass boxes

thats what you really hate

modern architecture can have a lack of character

[novel rain]

yeah like compare the victorian apartments of SF to the modern 5-over-1 apartments, its night and day

its depressing to walk around a neighborhood like that

feels sterile

[fossil jewel]

but like with switzerland i feel like a lot of it is justified, beautiful country and a lot of services are freely available

[jovial latch]

yea i agree you, europe bothered to keep their old architecture so it looks great, in america we tore down everything for highways

[fossil jewel]

yeah i liked the architecture in paris

[jovial latch]

mind you theres still brick midrises, i live in hoboken and theres rows of brick midrises it looks great

[fossil jewel]

the streets are walkable

[rancid token]

car centric infrastructure ftw

[novel rain]

or the brownstones in boston and parts of nyc, etc

yeah its sad

we werent even affected by the war and we still tore it all down

[jovial latch]

the problem was that america tore down their infrastructure and rebuilt it around cars

[novel rain]

canada too, tragic

[jovial latch]

europe stayed pedestrian oriented

[timber rock]

they make a lot of money in switzerland too

like us-level salaries at google

[fossil jewel]

they’re overall happy

from what i hear

they choose what their high taxes go to

[timber rock]

my house is probably older than your country lmfao

[fossil jewel]

damn bruh u old

[sonic coral]

Nyc has got a vibe unlike anywhere else in the us imo

[fossil jewel]

i can’t believe you were at the boston tea party

[jovial latch]

meanwhile our taxes are being used to literally buy our own data lol

[sonic coral]

Those prewar skyscrapers are something else

[chrome nimbus]

there used to be like 2 railways and a steamship line near my house... now there's just regular old busses that aren't frequent enough to be particularly useful (but, thankfully, lots is walkable anyway, despite that)

[fossil jewel]

lol nys gives the tax money to other states (from what someone told me)

it’s literal garbage

likely the states that don’t have income tax

[tardy geode]

even while switching jobs is it all LC stuff ?

man i am so fking tired of this BS

[fossil jewel]

add sys design

[timber rock]

nyc is cool

[tardy geode]

OMFG

[jovial latch]

this is just a blue vs red state thing, blue, educated states generate more revenue and where all the shits at while red, uneducated states take a fuck ton in govt handouts and dont generate any money

[tardy geode]

Sys design is still fine

[chrome nimbus]

depends on the company

[tardy geode]

its LC that i am fucking done with

[novel rain]

yeah nyc is cool, its too hectic and expensive for me but its basically the capital of the world

[tardy geode]

[sonic coral]

@fossil jewel Brooklyn brownstone vs those brick rowhouses in queens vs a city greystone

[jovial latch]

basically red states are subsizied by blue states, which is why i always laugh when texas threatens to seced

[timber rock]

its like if london had guns

[sonic coral]

There’s more peaceful parts that still have great architecture

[timber rock]

and rats

[tardy geode]

how is SoCal?

[novel rain]

for sure but the rent in the happening areas is just insane

[tardy geode]

like palm springs , carlsbad

[jovial latch]

related to this, the suburban lifestyle is actually subsizied by cities because suburbs dont generate moeny, they drain money

[sonic coral]

I mean yeah but also there’s happening parts in almost every neighborhood aside from the super sleepy ones

[fossil jewel]

eh i have no opinion tbh

brownstone is cool

[novel rain]

SF is not at all comparable to NYC in nightlife, but a 1br in a decent area costs me $1.9 whereas in manhattan my fam member cant get a studio under 2.5

[rancid token]

yeah its nuts too bc the rent increase slips into nj as well where im at

[novel rain]

its fucked lol

[novel rain]

damn really

are you right across the river?

[fossil jewel]

i feel like you’re at the point of diminishing returns

ik your count is high

[rancid token]

no im in essex county but its a 15 min train ride to the city

like hoboken and jc were already expensive

[fossil jewel]

tbh, nyc got decent public benefits

[rancid token]

but even in newark apt prices are soaring like crazy

[jovial latch]

yea its up there as someone literally living in hoboke nrn