#2023_grads
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my company is hiring 10 new engineers too
good point.
no idea i did internship + part time + start full time next month
only 110k starting tho im trying to leave asap
but yeah id say just avoid consultancy companies as a general rule if u have a college degree, since u pretty much already have the education
im trying to leavebefore i even start full time realistically
do they have any penalty if you break a contract?
damn
it says any party can break the contract at any time
oh wait i thought u were asking about the consultancy companies
yup they underpaid me super low cuz this shit economy, all companies are using it as leverage to pay less
cuz they know u prob dont have many offers rn
especially as a new grad
@shut crescent isnt 110k not bad tho?
but yeah idk its looking better than it did a few months ago i think, im getting alot more interviews
110k is pretty bad in the bay lol
oh yeah i guess in the bay it is if u gotta pay ur own rent
im not paying my own rent but personally i think i deserve a little more from a large company haha
yeah dont drop it without having a backup tho
it is nontech tho
just in case
yeah no way im dropping this rn im interviewing tho
i accepted the offer in a heartbeat lol
this economy is scary
there are still alot of 2022 grads looking for positions
WISCONSIN
i didnt want to relocate to Wisconsin haha
ye
i think its MCOL right?
would u go?
its considered low
130k in LCOL is amazing then
not yet, took their assessment already
waiting to hear back
i think i did well tho? not sure
yeah why not? they are a pretty good and large company
pretty hard to guess because it wasnt like i aced it
i chose this 110k cuz its fully remote + i dont have to pay rent
i wouldve for sure done the epic onsite interview if i had to
ye its solid
and gone with it if i got it
but yeah in wisconsin ive seen some people get like 500 rent
what company is this?
D.R Horton, its the largest construction company
its a data engineering position
wait do u even have to live in cali?
they call it "full stack data engineer" lmfao
like if i applied from WA, would i be able to get it?
im using python, nodejs, sql, typescript,javascript
oh nice thats pretty much my stack too
nope i dont have to live in cali
my whole team is in miami
oh dang nice, u know which positions they are hiring for rn?
its a very chill job tbh, i dont have to go to work 6-8 am cuz thats when their meetings are. i only realistically work from 9-2 cuz they all clock out at 5 pm ET
i only know they are hiring 10 more data engineers
cuz like thats in my department
they prob are hiring SWEs too tbh
yeah i think its gone up recently but u can still find cheaper
or how much per month is considered low?
cuz on reddit i saw some guy saying he was paying 800 and this was a couple months ago
you can find a nice 1bd/1ba in madison for like 800-1200
oh thats cheap man
and on 110K base, you will be chilling
800 is MCOL?
thats almost LCOL imo
look what you consider MCOL or LCOL varies from person to person
130k and pay 800 rent sign me up
techie
everyone has different tolerance
what would be low?
but how good is the apartment/room thats 800 tho
I paid 1,025 when I was living in wisconsin
how many years ago and how big was it?
if its a place you can eat shit and sleep its good
with a TC of 72K
lmfao

yeah lol thats deadass how i feel, dont need a big fancy place
wait dude madison apartments look pretty expensive... lol
my goal is to save money
oh this was not Madison area 
some studios in madison are going for $2.5k wtf...

thats like irvine rent
tbh
Bro I was given a salary of 60k in Nj with average rent being 4k like how tf would I survive
who tf is paying $2.5k for studios in madison
true im sure all of us are young lol
if you have to cut back on DoorDash or something to afford rent, duh thats easy
its called lifestyle deflation
maybe they're luxury apartments
at the end of the day it does ultimately come down to how much u save not how much u earn so
go to china town bunk with a Chinese familly of 4
although most people dont like to lower standards
is online a good way to gage cost of living tho? i feel like when i search online its always more expensive
no idea i dont know any other market like i do cali's market tbh

even in new york there are cheap rent jsut depend on your standard
Sup
we are all bitchless
in ny i would have to live in a shed
so why even have a good looking apartment?
I am considering a roommate later this year
not bad at all
because friends might come over
idk
like once a month?
wait whats that?
a nice place promotes better work
yeah i guess madison is pretty LCOL... 130k can go a long way tbh
I was gonna be roommates with my coworkers in office 💀💀
i think its more about not becoming claustrophobic
Imagine the politics lol
lol thats interesting
wonder how that would've went
if your place is shit it promote you to go out and touch grass more
which is the goal anyways
this was my wisconsin apartment
Ya you can’t work 24/7 lol
man i heard roommates in ny are fighting over toilet paper cuz every dollar counts
no TV in that picture 
yeah thats not bad i guess
It’s actually nice
do u guys even use TVs anymore
what would a 800$ look like?
Lol no
yes
Just for gaming ig
im thinking of getting a 55 inch 4k TV and placing it behind my dual monitors
would be a vibe tbh

That’s fire
old ass pictures
@shut crescent wait can u link me a data engineer for D.R. Horton? cant find it on their linkedin
Never once in my life where I live in big house to a small house where I am stand there and think to myself "damn my house is big" I like half of the time I wish my kitchen is next to my bed so I can reach out to the fridge easier
maybe no jobs posted yet?
Do you live alone
It’s alright 
whats now?
this was the worst, taking a pot of boiling water to the sink SMH
Spilled almost every time 
that was 1br 1 bath right?
buddy you dont know
Oh damn 

hm was it for total rent?
I would imagine myself living in closet in New York were there is no shower and I have to clean myself at the nearest YMCA Gym
to save money
trash bags to store clothes
be the life for real
uhh
$1,025 + Util
util was usually like $75-80
save to live life
wtf for 2 bed/2bath?
everyone has different financial goals man
1bd
true
thats still cheap lol thats a good deal
like for u its apparent that u will be perfectly comfortable and happy with 130k, and if u get paid more u may even feel guilty @livid yew
but its a mater bedroom with private bath and walk in closet
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I am currently paying 2,000+Util+Parking in Philadelphia 
you need to live in a luxury apartment in NYC so that you could have ur private laundry
sheesh
trying to downgrade to like 1600-1800
studio?
but lease is not up till October
damn 2000 for 2 bed/2bath rn?
thats good
sure yeah
I am paying 1100 for 2b2b in arizona
1bd assumes 1 bath 
depends which stocks
Why don't you move to Texas instead and get more for your money
i think u can make money on any big named stock tbh like nvdia, amd, apple at this given time
WHEN I GET NEW JOB
if he diversify into different assets and industries then its fine
My goal is to save as much money as possible to by stuff when its cheap when the US economy get a another 2008 bust
Or come to Canada, where the pay is way less and a 1 bdr in Toronto is $2500/month
yea yikes
bro i heard they are paying deloitte consultants like 75k in toronto too
@livid yew what u invested in?
lol
ayo flex
pay my rent @livid yew


lmao
That's gonna be like the bonus of the job I get

she pays very nice

I lived at bloor/yonge for a year it was great 
bros a lil weird
Did you get stabbed in the TTC 
DN
No I didnt go out cuz it was during covid 
Got your moneys worth than because you most likely stayed in you room the majority of the time 
is React Forms an important topic for interviews related to React and stuff?
if anyone has given Frontend engineer interviews can provide any insights
anyone completed the coding assessment for wolverine trading?
howd it go bro
u take it yet?
epic systems
I did and I most certainly bombed it.
honestly hated the technical learning portion due to the lack of information over the expressions
oh really like which part?
the question about the numeric and non-numeric combo stuff racked my brain
Im in front end, I personaly never got interviewed in regards to forms since thats very specific and dosent tell you a whole lot about front end concepts. Maybe if your applying to a specific role about user registration than Ig its nice to know how to prevent attacks and injections
Your most likely going to be asked about encapsulation, state management, higher order components, re-usability, global stores, accesibiliity, performance optimization, testing, how ou debug, and other FE concepts
And database?
No I never got databse questions for front end. maybe differnce between REST and GraphQL but thats it
@pulsar mural EL GATO

me when i perfected the 6 nugget deal at wendys
u wont need a 6 nugget deal as long as u follow the inverse cramer when investing
Adorable. I know someone with a Palla's Cat fursona.
Anyways, is anyone going to Cleveland this Thursday?
How do I counteroffer respectfully
acknowledge the full TC, and give reasons for why you believe a higher offer is needed
Ideally, you have other offers to bring up. Otherwise, use the statistics on levels and other similar websites to discuss why you should have a higher base pay, signing bonus, etc. As well as what additional skills you bring that they might not have seen from the interview. If it's a federal position, there's almost no point since their pay is pretty much set.
cat dude is such a virgin
The solution is to make as much money as possible as a SWE to sustain a lifestyle of hookers and cocaine everyday if you don't want to be a virgin while working in tech
Make an LLC to pay taxes and write most of those off as business expenses
has anyone had experience with hireright being unable to verify previous employment at your university? I TAd at my school for just my last semester but it's the only thing on my bg check that is pending, I provided my W2 too
Nah they did verify mine in a day
How do you write off SWE salary as a business expense if you form an llc?
did you have to provide your w2?
anyone know if mastercard drug tests for new grad pos
buy a nail salon and use it to write it off
better yet live in the nail salon and use that place to do your deeds
Didn't know Saul Goodman was a CS major
hi guys
i have applied to almost 1000+ applications but havent been getting much interviews
just got 1 interview and few resume screening calls and take home assessments
idk if my resume is bad or something else
any feedback is appreciated
International?
yup
how much did ur GPA matter for yall
over the past 3 years ive only had gpa brought up once in interviews and it was an off hand remark
unless yours is terrible it likely wont matter
just dont put it on your resume anyways
yea thats what im gonna do
im still a junior and i have a fair bit of internships. i was wondering whether leaving the gpa off my resume would negatively affect me
No
Not at all. If any company asked, it was just a requirement that it was above 3.0
No one cares
perfect, was really stressing out about this after my midterms lmao
it's so hard to leetcode all day + do side projects + work part time and maintain a good gpa
@west egret

Cap
idk wym by cap
I often hear there is widespread diversity quota if anything it’s the reverse
idk about that tbh
the actual industry is still mostly white n asian
There is a reason why they collect gender and stuff in your application
It’s not to discriminate
Individual applicants
But it’s to show the company
What percentage of a certain group that is getting in
So if the data shows they have a 90% of a certain group
They will focus on hiring the other group
amazon had a thing where it would reject applicants based on race
A manager at Amazon.com Inc sued the online retailer for discrimination on Monday, saying it hires Black people for lower positions and promotes them more slowly than white workers, and that she was subjected to harassment.
So that the government and the public don’t accuse them of racism
they can just say the AI did it, but AI is trained by ppl
Like they focus on hiring certain group if the data shows them they are lacking if anything the AI is made to make shit more diverse
yeah they might claim that they try to promote diversity
Tbh people don’t want shit to be non discriminatory
If it’s just on merits shit get real fair real fast
They just want whatever it is doesn’t matter what other people gets they have to get more
but im sure if you do a LI search on SWE jobs, you're not gonna see minorities pop up a lot
i think its just that everyone from a similar background competes with each other
Asian are also minorities
Exactly
if you're asian, you're kinda competing with other asians
All fair and good
not really competing with the minorities
Is devrev OA automated?
Yeah personally I think the whole minority and diversity thing in America is pretty bull shit
Forcing more attention on it and to meet certain requirements for diversity just promotes more discrimination
Just hire based off of merit
If they all tend to be one race, then maybe focus on providing money for the less privileged in terms of education
The solution definitely isn’t to call out everyone’s race and sexuality for some company statistic, that’s just for the businessmen to make the public stfu when they complain about racism
That's the problem
A lot of people have unconscious biases
Like there are numerous studies
That women and people with names that imply their a PoC r discriminated against
Even if they have more or the same quals
So dei programs help make up for that indifference
Well yeah this is a complex issue hard to discuss via text but all these “programs” really achieve is more discrimination but it’s “discriminating” towards evening out the race disparity in the workforce but may not necessarily represent the total population of that field
If we have 2 people but one is white/Asian compared to a minority and they have equal skill sets, for the sake of this example let’s just say could be slightly more qualified but because the company wants to appear to be more “diverse” and not racist they would hire the minority
The individual that’s white/Asian didn’t ask to be born that race, but because they are they can be discriminated towards
The same could be said for minority groups
Anyone gave an IBM OA recently?
Dei programs do not steal roles from white/asians
Yes exactly but discriminating for a minority group is not the solution
It's not discrimination though, it is fighting discrimination
It is an attempt at making hiring more equitable
Hypothetically if we were to find out the total demographic of a certain field and it turned out to be 95% male and 5 percent woman and in the workforce we saw a similar demographic, is the solution to say, we need to hire more females to make it 50/50? Or to create programs to make it so that the whole demographic is actually representative of what we want the workforce to be
DEI programs aren’t making things “50/50”, they’re just trying to even out their workforce from an imbalance that was originally caused by societal imbalances
Yeah that’s not what I’m saying, that was a hypothetical
In the world we live in now there’s like 100 different diversity groups, so there’s no such thing as 50/50
not another diversity discussion on cscd 
yeah but the concept of 50/50, meaning complete equal representation (accounting for error and ambiguity)
we should bring back xceed. that guy had some wild ass takes on this last time
what’s crazy to me is minorities think they’re not being hired due to their name/race and things of that sort, and now white and asian people also think they’re not being hired because of a DEI agenda stealing opportunities from them, so then who tf is getting hired
there is always bias in a job hiring process, drop the victim mentality and just keep moving
yeah i mean we live in a world where currently everyone just likes to play victim
and yes bias is an inevitable part of human nature, i just dont think the DEI programs are doing anything to actually help the real issue
just like if u get a short fat and ugly person compared to someone who's tall fit and more charismatic, even if the short fat and ugly person is more skilled technically, he may get "discriminated" against
yeah that was on me lol
disagree it depends on the program, but these things take time, if you were brought on to a high paying role early in your career that literally changes the trajectory of you and your kid’s lives
also i think ppl think they'd take a minority with no merit over someone who has all the merit
the minority still has to have a merit to pass thru 5 rounds of interviews
and yeah thats totally fine, part of the reason these things are so debatable is because we all live different life experiences, one PoC being treated by racist all his life will believe there is blatant racism no matter where he goes, and another may have the exact opposite experience and believe theres no such thing as racism
exactly at the end of the day the difference is negligible in skill if you pass the interviews most of the job will be writing small microservices in node anyways
blame the system not the players
my guy said writing small microservices in node loool
there are actual folks in cs that believe minorities are actually unworthy
and that they're stealing their jerbs
i truly believe this is an actual minority tho
a very small percentage of people who are actually racist
most people i feel would stand up to racism if they saw it
i dont think racist ppl will announce their racism
that's just at least my experrience
yeah it’s racism combined with insane amounts of insecurity
and well this is how it can escalate into hiring committees ya know
its all rng
i honestly think hiring should be double blind like a science experiment
I mean that sounds about right for a junior/NG engineer
yeah i dont think any entry level swe with just a bachelor is gonna do crazy revolutionary work at a big company unless its a specialized team
dude i’m refactoring micro services in java as a junior where do you think i got my example from
no CRUD that is
everyone thinks FAANG will make them do revolutionary work
Maybe I had a vastly different intern and NG experience, but it was mostly adding new services to Spring Backends
It's fine tbh
honestly i like springboot
but its pretty robust so not bad
that’s what i’m working on too

syntax and dependency injection take a bit to get used to
My first 3 weeks as a FT dev, I added 5 new services
but otherwise, less prone to error
syntax is ez pz but yeah understanding beans and dependency injection is a bit harder
omg same bestie i did common and configuration
yeah i think syntax is generally the least of the problems
What's another common spring pattern
if u know one lang, you can do the others
and then my next ticket was autoscaling in kubernetes 


im doing hawhat now

anyone knows the resume bar for cohesity is?
had three big-n internships
resume rejected from all their positions
oh i did more ML/MLOps stuff
and data eng
some did do testing, just depended on team
Are you serious? My resume has no name internships and I got their codility coding challenge
though this was for a DevOp role
yeah i got rejected from all their roles including devop
even though i got quite a few interviews from much bigger places
That's super weird of them to do that
They were quick to remove all their new grad roles, I was gonna apply this weekend 
yeah they also responded very quickly
was it maybe a GPA thing?
if u have 3 big tech, bar doesnt go much higher lol
not sure if they have a cutoff but i am 3.7+
then at that point its not a NG position
oh ye not sure why then
they marked it new grad tho
that's even weirder because my gpa sucks (3.2)
maybe removed position?
it's very weird
bruh
yeah that's def possible
hoping every day that my return offer won't be delayed again

to where?
doordash
pay was great but they delayed new grad joiners to october
every company does this
tbh
damn yeah october is rough
Any bonus for the delayed date?
no
Amazon gave a fat bonus
at that point when they delay ur offer this much its pretty much just a backup offer for if u cant find anything better
really? 👀
i heard banana gave like 10k for 5 months delay
cuz they cant really expect u to not work till october
or sthing
$13K I think
thats not bad
if u take 13k/ the months i think its like 1 or 2k per month
get another job in the meantime and basically just got 13k for free
yeah the point isnt to not work till then
yeah original start date was july
idk if its enough if u live in nyc or sf lol
but dang yeah that sucks
I don't think there is
i think there is
i dont see how amazon would offer that without u even starting there, its like how companies have starting bonuses, and if u leave within a year or something they make u pay it back
The $13K is not considered part of a bonus, it's for the delay. I think I remember someone saying there was no clause and they could quit, I'll check again.
13k month is like zon sde 2 lol
yeah cuz at that point it seems like they are just burning money
I didn't work on anything that affected the recruiting side at all though 
I am a minority though depending on who you ask anyways
so like u get paid 13k and if u decide u don't want u work at amazon anymore u can just keep it?
anyone take the Okta OA? was it leetcode-medium or hard level?
damn bro u really just missed out on 13k
dont you only get the 13k if your start date was this winter/spring?
gotcha
not 13k/month lol
Imagine someone keeping their Zon offer even though they aren’t going to take it just for the 13k lol
money is money
ye nothin wrong with that
big regrets not taking my zon offer tbh
fat L
what did u take instead?
blox return
Yeah bro
Multiple offers 
ya'll got any tips for landing offers
Networking is especially useful right now
outside of school career fairs, do you have any suggestions on where
or jsut cold emailing linked in would be the best approach
Thoughts on consultancies friends? Any good ones?
i went to my uni's tech career fair on friday and like 80% of the companies there weren't even hiring
If you see a job which is good match for you on LinkedIn, mail the recruiter. Ask them to forward resume to hiring team if they can, so that they see your resume atleast.
NYU? 😄
Yeah like recruiters and friends/classmates
nope
i even went up to this startup and asked about new grad/intern and he was like oh, we're still going through a funding round but we'll be hiring in 2024 maybe!
bro what u even doing here 😭
Same, no one at career fair is hiring for software engineer roles , and I go to a top school
That's f'ed up.
most of my career fairs have been successfuly on campus, got 2 offers out of them
nice
Which role and when did you apply
I applied feb 26th for SWE ng but haven’t heard back
Amazon OA
Wait is this new grad
As a new grad do you think it would be dumb to apply for internships instead of jobs ?
I only have 1 internship under my belt and Ik the job market is bad right now. Feel like I might be wasting my time applying to full time positions
I would think so since they would not even consider you and auto-reject
hey yahkub
They were mainly new grads going for masters but still
if you just say you're going for a masters you could def do that
well if you're currently in school to any capacity then for sure you can do internship. I think if you're in the industry and not an active student, its highly unlikely you get an internship
fellas
this sucks
i applied to a bunch of RL stuff, got to final rounds 5 teams, didn't get any of the jobs
RL is a tiny field so i started applying to ML and CV stuff, and haven't gotten anywhere
N
i mastered out because research is cringe
was making $50k/year in Boston while stressed out of my mind as a phd
yoh
masters is still better than majority of ppl in this server
congrats dude
how was the rent in boston
Has anyone interviewed for Google Software Engineer III recently?
did you apply recently? also you international and MS?
this gif fire

cat gang ftw
a recruiter reached out. Yes international and MS.
Bad. Like $2400 for 650 square feet 2 bedroom
650 total for 2bedroom? Those gotta be hella small rooms lol
Imagine living in Boston
Who’s still hiring??
there are a lot of places still hiring; i don't hear back from any of them though
Apart from Linkedin, indeed are there any useful job portals ?
I'm not hearing back from either one of them , it would be great if someone could provide helpful information regarding the same
Timeline?
Handshake if your school has that
does anyone know if we're still able to interview for new grad roles after we graduate? A lot of the JD says "graduate in summer 2023". so in a few months it would be "grad in summer 2024"
yes lmao
i don't understand this , saw a position at apple on linkedin . shows posted 6 hours ago when i hit apply it redirects me to the positions page on apple's career page . there it mentions posting date as Nov 22,2022

linkedin essentially scrapes postings found online
from what i heard

would they still interview you for new grad if you have a job?
I think for Intl. It’s super rough season, better to get Master or Phd.
sheesh
bay area type of pricing
This is embarrassing of me to ask, but what kind of conversation topics or questions I should ask to companies at a university career fair?
I've applied to most of their applications online, but asides from asking questions on work culture and projects, I suffer from dry mouth and feel concern over wasting their time
i think just ask about what positions they are offering rn and then ask questions about the position ur interested in
but definitely talk to as many as u can, skip the huge lines and dont waste too much time on them
get ur resume out to as many companies as u can in that given time
Lord knows the datadog and wayfair lines will be long af.
anyone interviewed at veeva? (master's)
want to know how to prepare for the phone interview(30 min)
Why Veeva is definitely one of them
search here, people have answered that
oh great..! thanks so much
When's your phone?
Oh good luck!
I'm ex-meta tho
Do your best,
Oh fuck
You still got this, but make sure you do your best
They've still been rejecting people from phone round for who knows what reason
And even after verbal offer the CEO has vetoed and rejected multiple ex-meta from here
whats his beef?
Just do your best to make it look like you wanna be with Veeva long term
That's the type of people they're targeting
"ex-faang ppl expect too much and are more likely to job hop"
sounds like they're not cut out for this fast-paced job-hopping environment
did u make it
UofT, UBC, Waterloo
Masters

anyone pass or get ramp frontend interview?
I submitted mine about months ago, haven't heard back
🙏
Veeva CEO is right tbh

We're applying to veeva because nowhere better is hiring
still weird to be THAT biased against ex-FAANG candidates
Tbh he isn't wrong
I think it's stupid but I do think veeva has the right to want people who will coast but stay loyal
Yeah but giving a verbal offer and then rescinding it is fucked up, how about the CEO review it first before even having an offer extended and giving the candidate hope 
i am graduating this may and don't have an offer yet, is it too late? 
didnt make pass resume screen D:
no
just apply like no tomorrow
theres pletny of places still hiring
Thank u! Def needed encouraging words
It’s brutal over here
we got this though
never make decisions on a verbal offer
its just that, verbal, non-binding, non-documented
Agree, but still shitty to rescind verbal offers



Do you see those places on LinkedIn?
Tf
I used all my Dall-E credits, was trying to make a dogs around the campfire version
nah this is cursed bro
Craiyon made it, I was out of Dall E 2 credits to attempt there 

the dog on the right 💀
There is a dog on fire
melting dogs
Animal Brutality
use midjourney
u can add it to ur own server and give it prompts
its pretty good tbh
This is much better 
the one on the chair looks like King Julien 💀
its not perfect (hence how we can tell its AI)
but its pretty good
Looks dope
Is 780 a good codesignal score to submit?
DevRev?
No
which other choice do you have?
Cohesity
Will give an another attempt if it is less
They allow multiple attempts?
My best score was a 710 
are you international?
Being international is tough my friends
I am international
yep its brutal af , same here 😦
can we fix the background
we can remove it ig
reading a job posting and then seeing "this is not eligible for sponsorship" is the worst lol
perfect
its a discord bot
midjourney
they have a free trial then u have to pay
Nice!
santa paws building a bonfire
does soemone have dog and campfire gif
tfw not a good boy
Or create as many discord accounts as you can
look slike maurice
bro it really is king julien
infinite emails?
or phone #s
lol this is facts
Wait how did you qualify for loans
As an international student I wasn't even allowed to apply for loans
Student loans like from prodigy etc.
So I am ahead since I have zero debt
my school today was like "sorry we miscalculated your tuitions and you need to pay 40k in a month to graduate"
so there are 2 types , secured and unsecured . secured means you put your property/some asset on the line . if you fail to pay then the lender can legally seize that asset . you get this type of loan at a low interest rate(7-9 percent ig)
in unsecured they lend you money on the basis of some background checks(in secured also they do) . here the rate of interest is a bit high (12-14 percent)
my uni is taking money for graduating also , 200$ for a fking ceremony robe.
Is the lender from your home country?
yep mine is , but there are US lenders too . they lend loans in USD and you repay in the same
Now I wont complain for paying $75
Damn the way International tuition fees are so high.
yeah
but ig even citizens who don't get an admission in their instate uni pay roughly the same amount
like lets say a NY state born student studies at a uni in CA
I literally got lucky then I am paying in state rates
In texas any scholarship above $1k qualifies you for in state tuition
My Uni barely offers scholarships for masters
oooh you are doing masters thats a different beast
anyone here in team matching phase with Google?
I passed the hiring committee, but i been waiting for headcount since december
thats my only smaaaaallllllllll hope
no external new grad
Bro fr people just assume that because you have in state tuition that you clearly afforded it without loans
that's why i am still applying everywhere else 
last email from my recruiter was expect updates in March, but i don't think anything changed tbh
i don't think they will hire new grads this year
but the good thing is that results are good for a year i think
no that's why i am worried 
linkedin, handshake, google
yeah there is a whole discord servers for people waiting for a team match
the only one picking up is interns
well thats to attend the commencement
i would recommend looking into defensive companies (government contracted like raytheon, etc), they aren't being as hit hard due to the economy rn, therefore are hiring more
the problem is i am an international student, and these companies usually require citizenship
hi
training tomorrow
yahkuna what are you training for 
how to be annoying in dms
took the words out of my mouth 
Everything changed when the yak nation attacked
@pine topaz @tawdry belfry @blazing flame @normal palm @elder locust @pulsar mural
I'd always thought that the yak accounts were some sort of reference to Yakub for some reason
The real yahkuna is a yahkub simp, the rest are yahkuna simps
cult followers*
How to type 4 words
We didn't have graduation
COVID class of 2020
@dim cosmos can we yahkuna's get a special yakhuna flair?
what u mean my guy?
a role?
sorry, if we gave u guys a role, then a bunch of other people will start spamming me for other roles
just me then 🙂
no
That would be an added bonus

Silly yaks thinking you’re special
i am special
that's what my elementry shcool teachers have been saying
who what
Anyone here deferred amazon new grad 2022 sde offer to 2023?
Nope
Can't defer if I didn't get any offer
same
They told like now the role is closed we cant do anything
I have the offer to join by oct 2022 but asked them to defer... and they are like "may be".... but rejected finally
I applied to 900+ companies and received nothing. I am an international student and i lost my amazon offer too. It would be really helpful if you guys have some efficient resources. I will be graduating this april 2023. Thank you😃
Did you still get $13K to keep?
No
Recommendations please - Any good YT channels for back-end system design? 
welcome to the club my brother
cat gang ftw .
apply again sometime in future . you just need a pulse to get into zon . its not like apple where they juice the shit out of you until the final round.
But the interview feedback will only be valid for 6 months i guess ....
maybe contact your intern manager if you had interned somewhere. i mean don’t expect much but still worth a try
was it new grad and 30 min interview?
Yeah...
bruh , what feed back they would have except your OA.
they just review OA and give you monies
When i contacted asp they are like ur interview feedback is valid for 6 months
Once it is done then i have to do the hiring process again
well move on from amazon , apply like a maniac . i have put in more than 2000 apps , still going . Its hard mentally but mindset is everything rn
bro you are a penny for them , move on from amazon and asp is ass
1 company took 5 interviews and offered 65 tc

No stocks no bonus nothing
when do you graduate or graduated?
Not yet graduated
oh great!
is it true all faang companies are on a hiring freeze for new grads?
well rn maintaining status is more imp
But 65 for a masters student who has 250tc amazon offer is like shit broo
yes 90%
dam
bruh 250k tc is not for amazon ng
or is it
130 +30 +80+7
anyone get a job secured yet?
Base + joining+ shares+ reloc
well imo rn there is hardly anything so that 65k tc is good to keep you in status
global payments had 5 rounds of LC?
also yeah 65k tc for 5 rounds is the new tech boom

3 rounds of lc 1 sys design and 1 behavioral
bruhh
do you think counteroffering on a 70k offer to 85k is too much
probably fin they will meet u at their upper limit
went okay ithink

What do you think 

Got a mail from Google recruiter, how the duck do I prepare?

I don't need reactions I need answers!!
It's my first callback after 250 apps 😭
LC , behavioral .
and some sys design for safety.
Thanks, lc hards I assume 
congrats! Did u apply for new grad position last year? or did the recruiter randomly reach out
ChatGPT
Applied to a SWE role few days back
Do 1 YOE people get Sys Design questions
Cause I'm wondering if I need to prep on that
depends on company
and even country 
bloomberg uk moment 😔
lol thats exactly what i was referring to 
Amazon shares are 5/15/35/35 so you are getting very few stocks in the beginning
Yeah they want you to stay 
the last 10% goes towards funding the banana stand
oh my bad i just cant do math lol
what are the websites that you use that can reach 2K apps ... I can only find like 1 new grad position for every 10 I see
Websites like ?
bruh i apply to exp roles too like which have 2-3 years of work ex requirements
i am targeting exp roles as i see no new grad .
even if it pops up , there are like 4k apps in like 3-4 hours . its rough very rough
Bruh did you have any luck passing the resume round ? You are a new grad right?
I did the same got 2,3 calls as well. But whenever I said I would be graduating in May they were reluctant to got forward. They wanted immediate hire
L3 or L4
Hi all, I got an email saying there would be 3 parts for my karat interview, I would have to chose 2, was it the same for any of you? Coding, system internals and web development, any suggestion on what the other 2 are and what to chose?
position?
What company is this
am i the only one who gets instant rejects for non-new grad positions
@jaunty basalt where are you gonna work, I'm curious
No, same here. Even though I have 3 yoe.
Has anyone done the phone interview for Veeva? What should I expect?
Search up "Why Veeva" here
i think i should be mod, my first order business would be to clean up streets from any yahks
i had a karat interview long time ago, it was just one 3 part problem at that time and you have two solve at least two parts to pass
what company is this for?









