whats the yahkuna lore
#2023_grads
neon perch
@pulsar mural Show your radix offer, asking for a friend
fossil jewel
whats the yahkuna lore
just search up the messages sent by him
fossil jewel
think discord is messed up
pulsar mural
vagrant escarp
fossil jewel
<@696150060752306236>
vagrant escarp
bro i've never seen @pulsar mural form a complete sentence
grizzled bronze
think discord is messed up
Yeah they're still working on fixing search https://discordstatus.com/
vagrant escarp
other than when he/she quoted central cee's song
pine topaz
so many people have the name
we worship her
because she is a divine humab being
we sacrifice goats every sunday
neon perch
Yahkuna is a myth
pine topaz
Yahkuna is a myth
you will not be saved in rapture
vagrant escarp
anyone know him/her irl?
grizzled bronze
anyone know him/her irl?
My buddy who works at Lockheed said Yahkuna did some impressive work during his internship
vagrant escarp
My buddy who works at Lockheed said Yahkuna did some impressive work during his ...
bro i thought he worked at redix or something
or she
grizzled bronze
bro i thought he worked at redix or something
That was before he got into Radix
vagrant escarp
damnnnnn
mossy fiber
vagrant escarp
@pulsar mural leme be ur disciple
i wanna learn from u
@rain patio
@rain patio u ever brinin back that pic?
unkempt forum
i thought this was neymar based on the hair
vagrant escarp
pine topaz
show me something cuter
@slate bobcat is cute 
vagrant escarp
https://tenor.com/view/slipping-penguin-funny-animals-cute-winter-gif-13064024
that slip
fossil jewel
<@696150060752306236>
why do u love discord so much
pulsar mural
vagrant escarp
oreos u like dogs or cats better
pulsar mural
Cat
fossil jewel
bro i swear even cats are joining cs hype
pulsar mural
el catto
fossil jewel
i like dogs too
pulsar mural
no u don’t
fossil jewel
yes
pulsar mural
no
fossil jewel
i’d get a dog actually
pulsar mural
No u wouldn’t
fossil jewel
i like cats too
vagrant escarp
@pulsar mural post that other fat cat
fossil jewel
but dogs more
vagrant escarp
the EL CATO
pulsar mural
THE MANOOL
vagrant escarp
yeah i like pugs
fossil jewel
corgisssss
fossil jewel
grizzled bronze
neon perch
Damn yahkuna actually can’t put 4 words together in a sentence
vagrant escarp
Damn yahkuna actually can’t put 4 words together in a sentence
yeah ive actually never seen that
neon perch
Frr
vagrant escarp
crazy...
cloud zinc
monkey's paw tradeoff for getting Radix offer
cloud zinc
Some guy from RoboMQ rescheduled my interview for the second time this week. The broken grammar from his email makes me think that this is some sort of scam or something
other than that, got my 6th rejection email for the day 
vagrant escarp
other than that, got my 6th rejection email for the day <:sadge:7471690389119304...
gl man
whole berry
other than that, got my 6th rejection email for the day <:sadge:7471690389119304...
mr robot play 2.7_1-init_5.fve
verbal ore
Bungus
spring ledge
Anyone know Netflix 2023 ng offer
solemn spire
WE WILL GET JOB
Im down bad
daring gazelle
No
I probably wont get it
At this point
I think that god want me to suffer for a while
Life been too easy thus far
Sleep through school
Stable family
I need to be jobless to balance it out
prime palm
LOL
night marsh
Nani
stone granite
Nani the fuck? Then don’t label it as new grad
earnest summit
disgusting
ebon elk
Anyone interviewed with Normalyze?
tardy geode
i think there would be no ng 2023
would be ng2024 and people who graduate in may 2023 won't be eligible for it right?
lilac flare
anyone hear back from 2K Graduate Engineering Program?
I finished the Take-Home Test but they haven't done shit after
it's been 2 weeks
ivory stratus
would be ng2024 and people who graduate in may 2023 won't be eligible for it ri...
A lot of ng positions will let you apply as long as youre within a year of graduating
tardy geode
A lot of ng positions will let you apply as long as youre within a year of gradu...
i graduate in may 2023 , so will i be eligible for ng 2024?
teal jackal
its fair game as long as they dont explicitly specify(must be graduating fall 2023/spring 2024)
timber rock
depends on the company
some say must be graduating 2024, some say must have graduated in the past 12 months, some dont say anything etc etc
as long as it doesnt explicitly exclude you then go for it
tardy geode
i see
cedar gulch
I finished the Take-Home Test but they haven't done shit after
Haven’t heard back after my take home either
night marsh
will consider new grad with strong internship and/or project work
That's true
But also
It's a New Grad position. Why not label it as "underpaid engineer and we'll consider New Grads"
autumn jolt
is Ripplematch down? unable to login
vagrant escarp
anyone else see a bunch of L3Harris postings on linkedin?
i feel like my new grad search results are all filled with them
late kestrel
wb @rain patio
pine topaz
@rain patio !!!
late kestrel
tardy geode
anyone else see a bunch of L3Harris postings on linkedin?
only company that is always hiring smh
night marsh
Yeah always
tardy geode
they make bloomberg look like a peasant
late kestrel
poor mike
pulsar monolith
Anyone got sample questions from bbg sys design?
foggy vortex
Is bbg hiring :0
earnest perch
was there ever a cycle to begin with 
chilly burrow
was there ever a cycle to begin with <:PepeHands:748767514716274789>
tbh not much lol
pulsar monolith
Are there people on here that have 0 offers?
grizzled bronze
Internship / extend graduation for 2024 new grad roles
pulsar monolith
Are there people on here that have 0 offers?
Feels like everyone is getting cool offers except me lol
Feel with all of you
grizzled bronze
Feels like everyone is getting cool offers except me lol
Nah, a lot of us don't have offers
pulsar monolith
Nah, a lot of us don't have offers
Im rooting for you all.
grizzled bronze
Yeah that's my plan, but I'm expecting to land a new grad role so I likely won't need to extend. The only reason I'd extend is if I get a good internship that I can convert to FT.
pulsar monolith
Yeah that's my plan, but I'm expecting to land a new grad role so I likely won't...
What kinda company?
grizzled bronze
Hope in general
pulsar monolith
How come?
pulsar monolith
Just keep interviewing. Don't be hung up on big bucks or a specific big tech company
Don't be like me
willow sedge
dont remind me
pulsar monolith
Come on you're in the US
People would kill to have a chance to be there
Countless opportunities
teal jackal
The USA is the greatest country in the world for the ambitious
a lot of potential to make a lot of money
earnest perch
Just keep interviewing. Don't be hung up on big bucks or a specific big tech com...
if only companies actually wanted to interview me
livid yew
a lot of potential to make a lot of money
And you just overlook all the bad stuff
Teach me dey whey
teal jackal
And you just overlook all the bad stuff
oh yeah America is lightyears away from being a perfect country
this country could use a lot more empathy too
livid yew
teal jackal
but what I do know is that the dream to make it huge and get rich, as hard as it is everywhere, is for sure more attainable in america
livid yew
Being rich isn't even my dream
teal jackal
some people came here 20 years ago as broke masters students and they become billionaires
livid yew
Just not being homeless
night marsh
Are there people on here that have 0 offers?
No offers
livid yew
Anything above 0 and I am happy 
night marsh
I'm having a (knock on wood) internship in the summer, and will use the time to either secure return or find new opportunities
pulsar monolith
oh yeah America is lightyears away from being a perfect country
Yet also light-years ahead other countries regarding opportunities especially in tech
teal jackal
Yet also light-years ahead other countries regarding opportunities especially in...
for sure 100%
because america is the best country on earth for entrepreneurship, innovation, etc
bar none
pulsar monolith
for sure 100%
The American companies are sought after like crazy here in the EU
pulsar monolith
because america is the best country on earth for entrepreneurship, innovation, e...
True dat
pulsar monolith
if only companies actually wanted to interview me
Start slow and eventually you'll make it. Try looking for literally any position in tech even as a tester at no name companies.
teal jackal
It's not that easy anymore tbh
market is slowed and really saturated
what I do recommend is for those kinds of roles, contact friends and family friends
pulsar monolith
Maybe I'm underestimating, dont want to sound like a snob
teal jackal
they can refer or even directly get you into the pipeline
yeah thats very true
I will say that 2023 grads are on average gonna fall behind with promotions, pay and growth compared to grads during the hiring frenzy
(at least the ones who didnt get laid off)
pulsar monolith
I kind of agree with you
grizzled bronze
I will say that 2023 grads are on average gonna fall behind with promotions, pay...
I only care about a job, doesn't matter if I fall behind
willow sedge
same, i just dont wanna move back home
pulsar monolith
Where are you all based?
willow sedge
i have no idea tbh
im kinda hoping that applying to 15+ jobs a day will eventually land me one
grizzled bronze
Where's the shitposting stats at
neon perch
You international?
pine topaz
yall should evolve into a 2024 grad like i did
What if the recession happen at 2024
technicaly we are not in one right now, its just tech thats getting completely destroyed
timber rock
What if the recession happen at 2024
brave forge
do u guys think game dev/graphic dev positions in C++ are still hiring a lot
i seem to see a lot of them and they dont even have many applicants
cedar gulch
Seems like they are, but some companies like EA, Riot, Unity etc had layoffs as well
brave forge
brb on my way to be game dev 🥺
cloud zinc
I believed that staying beyond three years would severely damage my hire-ability for some fucking reason.
random seal
Which is better, Fidelity LEAP Program (Associate Software Engineer (Full Stack)) or Wells Fargo Technology Development Program (Software Engineering)
late kestrel
but last year was such a hot market
random seal
Also, do you guys know that site where people put their compenstations and people vote which one is better
late kestrel
Which is better, Fidelity LEAP Program (Associate Software Engineer (Full Stack)...
better in what sense
random seal
Career Growth and Compensation I guess
late kestrel
theyre gonna be very similar as far as i know. i think WF has a wide variety of locations tho if thats important
random seal
Charlotte, NC for WellsFargo and I got Durham, NC for Fidelity
I live closer to Durham, NC (25 minutes away)
chilly burrow
do u guys think game dev/graphic dev positions in C++ are still hiring a lot
Bungje just dropped a new grad position
brave forge
I saw that I’m simping over it
I researched a ton on what it takes to be a game dev and have gone to work getting the skills to build a resume and apply For some by 2024 season
chilly burrow
I saw that I’m simping over it
Try cold emailing in 2~3 days
If you don't hear back
If you're really passionate for it
gleaming fable
do u guys think game dev/graphic dev positions in C++ are still hiring a lot
They should have some still, the actual hard game dev spots tend to hire regularly
It's difficult work after all
chilly burrow
They should have some still, the actual hard game dev spots tend to hire regular...
But the market is shit rn, and I think they're referring to entry-level roles
brave forge
I’m not at a point to apply rn I just am going to wait until my internship is over and I can work on my skills. Besides my grad date is still a while out
gleaming fable
By hard I mean C++ / low-level like you said
gleaming fable
But the market is shit rn, and I think they're referring to entry-level roles
Oh shit u rite I forgot
chilly burrow
Yea 😔
brave forge
By hard I mean C++ / low-level like you said
Ya those roles I checked online there are a lot and not many people applying
chilly burrow
I c a bunch of gr8 positions but a lot of em r 3+yrs
gleaming fable
C++ is always a very solid niche to get into even if it's not game dev too
brave forge
Add in new grad lol
gleaming fable
Even if like rust or something replaces it that won't be for many years
brave forge
I saw Lockheed hiring graphic dev new grads
chilly burrow
Even if like rust or something replaces it that won't be for many years
Oh mos def
brave forge
C++ is always a very solid niche to get into even if it's not game dev too
Ya I figured it would benefit me regardless
gleaming fable
I saw Lockheed hiring graphic dev new grads
Yup I applied to a few positions like that when I was graduating
I think for simulation teams
rain patio
Ya I figured it would benefit me regardless
why c++
brave forge
I’m working on getting a resume focused around building a game engine, a ray tracing engine, OpenGL and Vulcan work. That should be good enough to land interviews. Just going to take a ton of grinding
chilly burrow
🤣🤣🤣
brave forge
why c++
I like it more . I worked JavaScript roles at both my internships and find it meh
rain patio
Cuz c minus minus
nice
rain patio
I’m working on getting a resume focused around building a game engine, a ray tra...
yea companies are always looking for good c++ devs
except maybe rn
late kestrel
<@217440011451105280> <a:SCGwave:697290120604418089>
im gonna cringe all over u
watch it
livid yew
livid yew
My grass is cold
late kestrel
hmmm im pretty sure grass is at least green
livid yew
daring gazelle
anyone else see a bunch of L3Harris postings on linkedin?
I use this search term [software developer junior NOT "wayup" NOT "l3harris technologies" NOT "clearancejobs" NOT "revature" NOT "brooksource" NOT "cybercoders"]
it filter all the bs out
cloud zinc
they gotta be fucking with us at this point
livid yew
Yes!
cloud zinc
there was another question that asked me to fill out a 100-150 word answer on why I'm excited about insurance
not about the company nor the job posting, but renewable energy and insurance in general
like, get a clue
livid yew
I mean I get tickets for free thru work 
willow sedge
there was another question that asked me to fill out a 100-150 word answer on wh...
use chatgpt
livid yew
tardy geode
<a:SCGwave:697290120604418089>
yo what happened
why u cry waving
i am mentally exhausted , doing LC , doing tech stack stuff , studying sys design
timber rock
we will graduate from this earth soon
distant rampart
damn 2nd round of layoff at waymo today
whole berry
we will graduate from this earth soon
cant wait
vagrant escarp
I use this search term [software developer junior NOT "wayup" NOT "l3harris tech...
wait how do filter NOT a company
cloud zinc
WAYMO LAYOFFS
valid bramble
is it appropriate to connect interviewers on Linkedin after the interview?
willow sedge
are most of these layoffs engs or just mostly other departments
vagrant escarp
bruh i am graduating in like 60 days FUC THIS ECONOMY man
how long does ur visa last for
till after u graduate
willow sedge
anyone else looking at job apps and see "must have security clearance" then automatically exit out of the application
neon perch
We internationals are all fucked
vagrant escarp
any companies that are actually hiring right now want US citizens
i think epic systems one of the few that seem to be hiring lots of NGs
tardy geode
any companies that are actually hiring right now want US citizens
bruh literally every company 💀
L3 Harris 🔥
distant rampart
i think epic systems one of the few that seem to be hiring lots of NGs
doubt they sponsor
wheat jacinth
defensive companies are hiring
vagrant escarp
doubt they sponsor
oh the way u phrased ur sentence made it sound like u were a US citizen
oh mis read it
neon perch
i think epic systems one of the few that seem to be hiring lots of NGs
Yeah but they have that weird Madison bias
distant rampart
vagrant escarp
yeah theres been hella L3 Harris posts recently
and they are like repeating the same position for every location
tardy geode
pogg
tardy geode
gotta be an avenger now FFS
distant rampart
in an alternate universe, we will all have multiple offers right now
vagrant escarp
in an alternate universe, we will all have multiple offers right now
ye in an alternative universe, i have every single FAANG company begging for me to join them
willow sedge
in an alternate universe i wouldn’t need to apply to 20+ jobs a day
vagrant escarp
and in another one im the ceo of tesla
fallen fox
150 days
It's actually 90 days; OPT overrides the grade period unless your OPT start date is a few days before the grace period ends
tardy geode
It's actually 90 days; OPT overrides the grade period unless your OPT start date...
i mean if you give your start date as the 59th day post your grad date and you don’t get anything till that day then 90 days start . so technically its 60+90 imo
fallen fox
ye thats what i meant
but if your opt start date is 2 weeks after your degree ends; then it overrides your grace period
i did that 💀
☠️
tardy geode
so you gave your start date which comes om your ead as the date 2 weeks after your grad date?
fallen fox
ye
tardy geode
💀💀💀💀💀bro why you did that without having an offer
nova reef
was ur offer rescinded or sth
fallen fox
i applied in october and i was 10000% sure SoFi would give me an offer ☠️
mfers rejected me 💀
fallen fox
no i was interviewing at sofi
for 2 months 💀
got rejected after the final interview
tardy geode
bro in this economy nothing is confirmed until you sign the offer letter
😭😭😭
dude make a linkedin post
i swear
glossy hull
Anyone like me, graduating in June but no experience, feel so bad 😦
fallen fox
are you international?
grizzled bronze
bro in this economy nothing is confirmed until you sign the offer letter
Even after signing
fallen fox
dude make a linkedin post
💀
tardy geode
💀
what? dude fr i am telling
you are immediately available , so you will get interviews ig
at-least preference
i meant if some position needs to be filled quick and his prof matches
valid bramble
Even after signing
Nothing is certain. Signed offer can be recsinded, started job can be laid off💀
fallen fox
sofi rejection hit me like a truck
2 months wasted
so many rounds
cursed
☠️
my recruiter scammed me
told me to study ds&a
interviewer asked me sys design
cursed shit
fallen fox
i have 30 days 
fallen fox
if i go back i have to spend the rest of my life paying off my loans
neon perch
i applied in october and i was 10000% sure SoFi would give me an offer ☠️
This was exactly me with CVS Health
tardy geode
if i go back i have to spend the rest of my life paying off my loans <:KEKW_RECE...
for godsake make a linkedin post i am telling you
neon perch
i have 30 days <:KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION:1014352624335728760>
Any backups?
fallen fox
Any backups?
a couple; i could volunteer or join a staffing firm to temporarily stop the clock
and bail when i get an offer
i was volunteering for a week but that didn't work out
neon perch
Yeap do it. Join as a volunteer somewhere, if related to swe or data even better. Make sure to avoid those shady consultancies.
You don’t wanna waste more days cause nothing is certain in today’s market.
neon perch
i was volunteering for a week but that didn't work out
May I ask why?
fallen fox
May I ask why?
i was volunteering for my previous supervisor in college; he later told me that I need to stop as I no longer have student status
by student status i mean i'm no longer enrolled
stray imp
Since there are not many new grad roles, r u guys applying to mid senior level openings?
neon perch
i was volunteering for my previous supervisor in college; he later told me that ...
Damn that sucks, college supervisors are usually considerate in such situations
neon perch
Since there are not many new grad roles, r u guys applying to mid senior level o...
Not kidding I’m applying to literally everything. Even those with 5+ years experience. I don’t bother seeing the description anymore
faint umbra
i was volunteering for my previous supervisor in college; he later told me that ...
u can ask him to sponsor u or ask your academic advisor. University helps in such case. Many friends whom i know had their amazon offer delayed by 6 months are doing the same thing.
stray imp
Not kidding I’m applying to literally everything. Even those with 5+ years exper...
Did you get interviews from any such non-new grad openings?
neon perch
Did you get interviews from any such non-new grad openings?
Sadly not yet
faint umbra
Since there are not many new grad roles, r u guys applying to mid senior level o...
Its waste of time to apply on those roles.
distant rampart
i get rejected after 1-2 days when i apply for senior roles
but for new grad roles, i get rejected after few months 😄
stray imp
Just last year new grads with little experience were able to easily bag $100k+
😔
I’ll be graduating in April and no interviews so far
I have significant number of internships though
faint umbra
Just last year new grads with little experience were able to easily bag $100k+
I am in same boat !
glossy hull
Is it that bad? I have no intern and still have 3 interview (about 200 app though 😦 )
agile niche
Anyone applying to KP fellowship?
steady canyon
Is it that bad? I have no intern and still have 3 interview (about 200 app thoug...
its that bad as of today tbh
but hopefully things turn okay by may
daring gazelle
wait how do filter NOT a company
NOT and the company name in quotation
night marsh
Took a quick glance through it. It's tricky but technically it works?
tardy geode
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vnegandhi_how-i-answered-will-you-now-or-in-the-f...
nope , shouldn't do this
i mean what if you get blacklisted or something by the company for lying
vagrant escarp
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vnegandhi_how-i-answered-will-you-now-or-in-the-f...
Yeah idk bro
tardy geode
i have tried this by saying that " i am eligible for STEM OPT so can work for 3 years without any sponsorship" but then most are like no we can't do it that way . sorry
vagrant escarp
I mean it may have worked for him but it really requires u do perform well enough that the company does sponsor u and even if u do, sometimes it’s just a company policy thing so ur taking a huge gamble
And during that time maybe if u weren’t making that gamble u could’ve found a company that would’ve sponsored u anyways
neon perch
Hmmm true that makes sense. I mean yeah reading that I was like you may get through the ATS whatsoever but it comes with its own risks mainly having your time and efforts wasted.
Now that I think of it, I’m sure a lot actually do put no on that question
sonic coral
i have tried this by saying that " i am eligible for STEM OPT so can work for 3 ...
Companies don’t want any issues with the federal gov for employing people without work auth
vagrant escarp
Now that I think of it, I’m sure a lot actually do put no on that question
Yeah when applying tho I do suggest just putting no since u can at least get practice during the interview
tardy geode
Companies don’t want any issues with the federal gov for employing people withou...
EAD card is our work auth
vagrant escarp
Lie just to get the experience and then when u do have an opportunity for a sponsored job u don’t mess it up
sonic coral
I do agree tho that lying on the app to try to get the interview is very risky because then you don’t even have the security that the company will even sponsor you in the future
vagrant escarp
Yeah but to get the experience via the interview could be valuable practice
tardy geode
which would have no proof
sonic coral
also an app is sort of a written proof
Exactly they have a section that you check that says “everything I’ve said here is true”
tardy geode
Exactly they have a section that you check that says “everything I’ve said here ...
yeah that's why one shouldn't lie or try to game the system
night marsh
Yeah, hence why its tricky
sonic coral
EAD card is our work auth
Fair enough I just mean that companies don’t want time limited work auth if you’re not a contractor
tardy geode
Fair enough I just mean that companies don’t want time limited work auth if you’...
yea
so this dude at my uni tells me that you can yourself sponsor h1b smh
idk if thats true
provided you have a job
rain patio
How is that possible
quiet crater
literally apply to 90 day fiance
rain patio
First step: get a fiancé
cinder wagon
How are people finding interviews even for new grad positions or internships for summer of 2023
dry salmon
Anyone do Veeva OA
split igloo
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vnegandhi_how-i-answered-will-you-now-or-in-the-f...
is this guy a legal expert or smth?
I would be concerned about that as it may cause legal issues violating immigration law
glacial brook
anyone interviewed with Whatnot?
tardy geode
How are people finding interviews even for new grad positions or internships for...
how are people finding ng positions is my first question
livid yew
I saw a couple the other day 
weary junco
how are people finding ng positions is my first question
LinkedIn, best bet
tardy geode
LinkedIn, best bet
only thing i see is L3 Harris
cinder wagon
how are people finding ng positions is my first question
Tbh it don't have to be new grad. Like anything, internship or anything.
tender sluice
How are people finding interviews even for new grad positions or internships for...
were not
timber rock
missed a call from a company on tuesday, left a voicemail that said they want to talk about progressing my application. tried calling back a couple hours later and every day since, goes straight to voicemail, and they arent calling back after my voicemails. today i get a generic reject email. still cant get through to the recruiter anywhere
cloud zinc
Damn
cinder wagon
missed a call from a company on tuesday, left a voicemail that said they want to...
I'm sorry man, it's part of the tlstruggle, maybe that job wasn't meant to be but ik it hurts 🙏
unkempt forum
name and shame wells fargo for promising uber eats for their info session but not actually sending it
vagrant escarp
missed a call from a company on tuesday, left a voicemail that said they want to...
Was it a scheduled call?
timber rock
Was it a scheduled call?
No
night marsh
What is this supposed to mean
foggy vortex
sounds like a startup
late kestrel
they tryna convince you theres no office politics, but good luck with that
night marsh
Has anyone taken Tesla Autopilot full-stack before? I have an upcoming phone with them
night marsh
they tryna convince you theres no office politics, but good luck with that
Yeah that's cap
It isn't a company without politics
(by cap I mean I'm agreeing w you)
tardy geode
ffs what do tesla want
i have applied to like 15-20 roles and most of em match my experience
and profile
night marsh
ffs what do tesla want
Honestly idk, I had Django and Python in my experience so that may be why
tardy geode
Honestly idk, I had Django and Python in my experience so that may be why
i have that too😭😭
night marsh
Idk why they didn't pass you then, shit
The reqs for jobs are over the place sometime I stg
split igloo
only reason i see could be sponsorship ig
Yeah lots of companies auto swipe left for sponsorship 😑
unkempt forum
i decided not to return to atlssain
I have another job
i'm working somewhere else
peak pike
got another offer 
grizzled bronze
got another offer <:thanospog:766459435441848363>
Congrats! Where?
peak pike
Congrats! Where?
it's a well known control systems designer and builder for public infrastructure based in CA
aka primiarly I'll be working with SCADA, PLCs and hmi's
mossy fiber
any recommendation for heavy java companies?
chilly burrow
any recommendation for heavy java companies?
Amazon
cloud zinc
Oracle
mossy fiber
basically no opening for Amazon, but I will try Oracle
distant rampart
anyone knows if Veeva doesn't sponsor H1B?
mossy fiber
for master candidates, they do
distant rampart
great. thanks!
grizzled bronze
distant rampart
any recommendation for heavy java companies?
JP morgan
i feel like a lot of big companies are still java heavy
mossy fiber
i doubt even oracle does.. it's so hard to pass their resume
fact. I tried around 10 postions last year fall, all resume rejected
but just made a new Java resume, gonna try it again
distant rampart
My resume passed most of FAANGs but can never pass places like ibm and oracle :S
lunar hatch
Anyone knows what companies are c++ heavy
lunar hatch
Do they sponsor h1b
mossy fiber
saw a lot companies for c++ new grads
distant rampart
I think they do cause they gave me an OA and I know a person who got their h1b there
lunar hatch
I think they do cause they gave me an OA and I know a person who got their h1b t...
Really helpful. Thank!
distant rampart
the only companies that reach out to me now are consulting companies
that pays < 50k
Sucks to be international
lunar hatch
you might need a top 10 school for the company like hrt
Yeah aiming to jump to hft places in the future
mossy fiber
upload your resume to monster
and you will receive 20+ emails from consulting companies every day
vagrant escarp
yeah consulting companies are a scam
vagrant escarp
basically just trying to be a middle man to take some of ur salary
lunar hatch
Got scammed by at least 2 phone calls every day
vagrant escarp
most of the people that run this have 0 clue how to code, just businessmen trying to make money
mossy fiber
even contract role required 4 rounds of interview nowadays
2 coding + 1 bq + 1 final
rain patio
I’m getting approached by companies that “market” my resume to clients
Is that a scam?
Idek man
vagrant escarp
yeah which is so crazy...id see it being of some value if they literally trained people from start to finish
but they are kinda just recruiting desperate software engineers and locking them in like 2 year contracts of 50k
rain patio
but they are kinda just recruiting desperate software engineers and locking them...
That’s a scam right
vagrant escarp
That’s a scam right
i mean not technically but the person is def getting ripped off
rain patio
Like I was told by some dude that they’ll make my resume and put like 6 years of experience
mossy fiber
you can try to connect with some vendors directly, they provide 50+ even 60+/hrs
rain patio
Like how tf does that work with someone just graduating?
vagrant escarp
its a good skill
distant rampart
one consulting company said they will make me lie on my resume and they will take care of the background check lmao
rain patio
Ya it is
mossy fiber
they wrapped you up that you worked for them since u were 16
vagrant escarp
u should know the big 3 tho, or get somewhat familiar
rain patio
It’s like they wanna take advantage of people on opt
vagrant escarp
python, java and c++
mossy fiber
so when you graduate, you have 5+ yoe
rain patio
Ya
distant rampart
and i paid so much money to get this opt
vagrant escarp
and i paid so much money to get this opt
how much is it?
distant rampart
opt is almost like a pyramid scheme in this economy
mossy fiber
it works when the market has not yet down
distant rampart
how much is it?
i did my masters to get opt, which costs a lot.. like at least < 100k
rain patio
And then be ready when they throw you out
glass egret
howw
distant rampart
I would rather do volunteer work than a consulting company
mossy fiber
the clients/vendors dont really care if you really have 5+ yoe or not , they just need a guy for the contract role so that they can spend their budget
vagrant escarp
sometimes they require u to be with them for a couple years or something
distant rampart
yeah. one told me i need to pay 15k if i leave too early
mossy fiber
yeah. one told me i need to pay 15k if i leave too early
its no legal, only problem if when you apply for H1-B or GC, you need payrolls
rain patio
Keep it as your last resort if you have nothing
distant rampart
antra inc is another one
rain patio
Ya they called me
vagrant escarp
imagine if someone said, ill recommend u to work at a company, but u gotta pay me 30% of ur salary
glass egret
<@&868936794601828492> can someone block this ass or remove them from the server?
mossy fiber
those companies basically pay you 60k which is the line for H1-B salary
glass egret
vagrant escarp
thats pretty much what the consultant business is about, they just make it feel slightly more legitimate through hiring a bunch of contractors
rain patio
Soon I landed a full time job in a company similar to McKensie
So don’t settle for something
Keep applying
vagrant escarp
thats why i silence my phone lol
verbal ore
Just block?
mossy fiber
basically vendor give them 60+, and they pay you like 25
rain patio
My starting salary was 60k and they were gonna take 30% of that
glass egret
thats why i silence my phone lol
i cannot silence my laptop bc i have to answer student's questions etc from chat
rain patio
Imagine 💀
vagrant escarp
i cannot silence my laptop bc i have to answer student's questions etc from chat
ah then block him
glass egret
Just block?
yea which is what i just did
mossy fiber
change ur discord setting so nobody can dm you
glass egret
rain patio
How many lc do you guys do per day?
vagrant escarp
don’t ping mods for that
yeah i agree
it seems more of like a you problem u just gotta deal with
blocking is so easy to do
glass egret
so he won't harass none no more lol
mossy fiber
basically 2 new questions and review prob 5-8 questions for what I have done before
distant rampart
I know i should but I stopped doing LC now
vagrant escarp
so he won't harass none no more lol
im just playing the other side..but to u it may be harassment, to another person it may be their only friend
distant rampart
I don't even get invited to interviews
vagrant escarp
im assuming the other guy may be international, different social norms
rigid quail
so he won't harass none no more lol
this is @pulsar mural’s alt account
glass egret
im just playing the other side..but to u it may be harassment, to another person...
LOLL i was being nice to answer his question.. few days later
or imma just start blocking people after first convo
mossy fiber
that's the problem, you cannot make interview
glass egret
nice solution
vagrant escarp
but i mean..what do u expect the mod to do? ban him from this server just because he is a little socially awkward?
rain patio
I remember getting grilled over all the courses I’ve taken so far in my degree at uni in one interview
Even if it’s not related to the job
So if you have courses on your resume, make sure you know A to Z of it
glass egret
but i mean..what do u expect the mod to do? ban him from this server just becaus...
dont necessary consider calling someone as socially awkward
: ) maybe he need mental support or therapy who knows
vagrant escarp
dont necessary consider calling someone as socially awkward
yeah but i mean if hes raised ina different country, they might just have different social norms
its not like hes directly calling u the n word or insulting u
like..that would be harassment
glass egret
yeah but i mean if hes raised ina different country, they might just have differ...
first time fine(which happened), second time hummm
vagrant escarp
first time fine(which happened), second time hummm
yeah i get that its annoying, but like so the mod just ban him? because he couldnt read social ques?
glass egret
also nicely explained. how do you not comprehend someone to be in the same situation if you call them at the same time just a diff weekday loll
glass egret
yeah i get that its annoying, but like so the mod just ban him? because he could...
as someone who worked for autism child care... expressions, body language, tone of voice, and personal space or boundaries are all types of social cues. text is more simple and most accessible
vagrant escarp
like if i was in ur situation i would straight up just block em
i also wouldnt like someone randomly calling
glass egret
but i guess i will send him social support if he needs it
anyways appreciate your perspective tho
vagrant escarp
ur good man
rain patio
or imma just start blocking people after first convo
i usually keep dms off and unfriend after conversations w/ complete randos
livid yew
like @pulsar mural he just sends weird DMs
vagrant escarp
like <@657980540665724938> he just sends weird DMs
@pulsar mural is a she
late kestrel
like @livid yew wont leave us 2023 grads alone
fallen fox
chilly burrow
like <@657980540665724938> he just sends weird DMs
late kestrel
<:WazowskiStare:752943231104188518>
holy smokes their office might as well be in the middle of nowhere
population: 938
tardy geode
basically 2 new questions and review prob 5-8 questions for what I have done bef...
this
late kestrel
<@217440011451105280> stop <:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
lol wtf did i do
livid yew
Dw about it
livid yew
late kestrel
Dw about it
well now im WORRIED
cloud zinc
them pac-man kicks go crazy
grizzled bronze
tardy geode
tardy geode
teal jackal
Bruh no need to ping him
vagrant escarp
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004741311175327824/1080571521166217436...
wait wtf is this
pic doesnt work
@fossil jewel thoughts?
fallen fox
u got an offer from Barclays?
lone rapids
@glass egret how long after tech oa u heard back
fossil jewel
<@696150060752306236> thoughts?
why does the wall have hanging cables
or is that a desk
LOL
ik thats @pulsar mural
vagrant escarp
ik thats <@657980540665724938>
ye aren't her hands cute?
fossil jewel
very
neon perch
@pure mauve what’s the secret to getting so many calls
I’m curious how your resume looks like
pure mauve
apply everywhere
neon perch
Are you international?
lone rapids
Then where do u find
neon perch
You mean the LinkedIn easy apply right?
lone rapids
Also how many internships u have
pure mauve
use linked for dms
3 on my resume
I get hundreds of rejections each day
I’ve applied on a scale 1000+ apps
and have had many rescinded offers and canceled finals
neon perch
Nice dude! Wish you all the best for the upcoming finals 🫡
night marsh
use linked for dms
Do you have a template? I've sent out like 10-15 and haven't even received one response via InMail
vagrant escarp
Do you have a template? I've sent out like 10-15 and haven't even received one r...
night marsh
https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237
fs, but damn there's a lotta waiting round
fallen fox
10-15 lmao
night marsh
The few who DO get back to me do so after the position's filled up and then a ghost when I ask about further opportunities
fallen fox
bruh
vagrant escarp
yeah..i mean other than updating ur resume with more projects and MASS APPLYING, theres not much else to it
the market rn just has lots of software engineers and not enough jobs atm
night marsh
That's fair
vagrant escarp
but yeah up those numbers 10-15 is nothing
night marsh
Any tips on how to get them to respond sooner or is that also a numbers game
vagrant escarp
i mean ur resume cant be total shit
but even if its good, as a newgrad its mostly a numbers game
if u arent hearing ANY responses, that prob means u gotta improve ur resume
night marsh
fs
vagrant escarp
add more projects, or change to a diff format that ATS friendly
night marsh
I've been hearing a few responses, and ran my resume past quite a few people. But yeah my reject/apply ratio is e.e
vagrant escarp
I've been hearing a *few* responses, and ran my resume past quite a few people. ...
thats normal tho for most new grads
even people who got layed off, ive heard they have bad ratios too
gotta get ur apps to up to the hundreds at least
night marsh
Yeah I mainly attribute to market rn. Doesn't mean I'm trying to stagnate my resume by any means but rough fr
night marsh
gotta get ur apps to up to the hundreds at least
O that was just cold emailing lol
In terms of actual apps I'm nearing 300s
I started after like the 200th
vagrant escarp
midnight when'd u graduate?
night marsh
Yeah I wouldn't be asking the 10-15 thing if it was just apps alone, ik that's a fool's game
night marsh
midnight when'd u graduate?
May 2023
vagrant escarp
oh wait ur TZak
night marsh
Yeah lol
vagrant escarp
lol was just about to be like...apply to epic
night marsh
I just changed my pfp and name
night marsh
lol was just about to be like...apply to epic
Yeah can't do that for awhile lol
vagrant escarp
Yeah can't do that for awhile lol
did u apply to vanguard?
night marsh
did u apply to vanguard?
I had a recruiter reach out but ghost
vagrant escarp
I had a recruiter reach out but ghost
oh rip how long ago was this?
i had one that reached out to me this week as well, got first interview tmr
night marsh
December
night marsh
Thank you Oreo
night marsh
i had one that reached out to me this week as well, got first interview tmr
gl dude
vagrant escarp
yeah a bet on ganes def the move lowkey
jon jones just has hype but he hasnt proven himself in heavy weight yet
livid yew
Vanguard 
acoustic skiff
anyone interviewed at HP recently?
vital harness
Can you please tell me which position?
foggy vortex
anyone interviewed at IBM before?
i got 100% on the hackerrank and i got a rejection LMAO 😭
vital harness
i got 100% on the hackerrank and i got a rejection LMAO 😭
you gave ibm assessment on hacker rank?
foggy vortex
ye a month back, i think they took the position down or something
vital harness
ye a month back, i think they took the position down or something
ohh,can you tell me what position you applied ?
foggy vortex
not sure it was a while ago. i think it was associate swe i forget
vital harness
not sure it was a while ago. i think it was associate swe i forget
Its okay .Is assessment easy ?
neon perch
Its okay .Is assessment easy ?
Too easy
neon perch
anyone interviewed at IBM before?
I have
zinc canyon
Man wtf is this i need a job man
vagrant escarp
Can you please tell me which position?
Backend
vagrant escarp
Too easy
Ah if that’s the case, I’ll prob just take the assessment later this afternoon
still plover
I also go IBM next step, but the link does not work. Do anyone know where to connect?
valid bramble
just been asked to implement a throttle during interview after grinding lc for so long to prepare it, all for nothing. Not even a frontend role😥
clear bear
I also go IBM next step, but the link does not work. Do anyone know where to con...
What location/position is this for?
still plover
What location/position is this for?
I remember it was a new grad SWE
vagrant escarp
I also go IBM next step, but the link does not work. Do anyone know where to con...
U gotta fill out the accommodation form
Then they will email u the OA
steep sundial
Anyone got an offer in this market?
still plover
U gotta fill out the accommodation form
accommodation form has an error,,, that's why I can not process it...
vagrant escarp
accommodation form has an error,,, that's why I can not process it...
Might just have to wait till error is fixed
I filled out the form last night and it was fine
split igloo
I am trying to get a job from my old startup.. better than nothin ig
vital harness
anyone interviewed at HP recently?
Which position?
acoustic skiff
Which position?
Software engineer -
vital harness
Software engineer -
software engineer I ?
late kestrel
no, software engineer -... its like software engineer I but you have to code laying down
acoustic skiff
software engineer I ?
Yes
vital harness
@acoustic skiff @late kestrel Thank you
thick cave
Is 81k tc peanuts for new grad
late kestrel
Is 81k tc peanuts for new grad
depends on location
but rly hard to complain in this market rn
vital harness
@thick cave thats awesome go for it!!
late kestrel
then thats pretty damn solid
jaunty basalt
@late kestrel thank you
sonic coral
@late kestrel thank you
late kestrel
thick cave
<@425486910811668480> thats awesome go for it!!
Thank you! Yea I’ve been working at this job, I’ll keep applying around for higher tc but think this is solid given the current market
sonic coral
Thank you! Yea I’ve been working at this job, I’ll keep applying around for high...
If you’re fine living at home do that for as long as you can and you’ll save a shitload
pulsar mural
:g_mikeummm:
thick cave
but rly hard to complain in this market rn
Yea that’s true
grizzled bronze
neon perch
Ah if that’s the case, I’ll prob just take the assessment later this afternoon
Wait I got it for the data scientist position
What role did you get it for?
tardy geode
which firm?
neon perch
IBM
vagrant escarp
What role did you get it for?
backend
tardy geode
how are you guys searching for jobs ?
Linkedin , software engineer . date posted : past 24 hours . Location : usa
like this?
neon perch
Linkedin , software engineer . date posted : past 24 hours . Location : usa
Yes. New grad software engineer and new grad data scientist
Covers all of it
For me at least
vagrant escarp
Just backend swe?
yeah i think full name is like entry back end
neon perch
I had like a couple of questions. Some were easy-medium leetcode and had a model building thing too which is straightforward
atomic oxide
Make sure you take the IBM OA asap. They supposedly give like 2 weeks but I got a rejection email after 3-4 days after I was too lazy to take it.
vagrant escarp
Make sure you take the IBM OA asap. They supposedly give like 2 weeks but I got ...
yeah planning on taking it this afternoon
lunar hatch
anyone successfully expedited veeva process
i got my hr call scheduled in april
why are they taking so long
are they literally interviewing one candidate per day 🙂
cloud zinc
damn thats a lot of candidates
peak pike
veeva has been the worst company i've interviewed with so far
hot raven
i got my hr call scheduled in april
Yeah same here 😭
hot raven
veeva has been the worst company i've interviewed with so far
How far into the interview process did u get to
neon perch
veeva has been the worst company i've interviewed with so far
CVS says hi
vagrant escarp
slayer, what happened when u applied for IBM?
neon perch
First I got this visa questionnaire from a recruiter and after I filled that I received an OA
vagrant escarp
did u do a technical interview with em?
dry salmon
CVS says hi
What happened
neon perch
did u do a technical interview with em?
I did but that was for another position last October. It was not too technical. More so about my previous experiences in depth and some basic DS questions
Ghosted after that
neon perch
What happened
Worst interviewers I’ve ever seen. My interviewer was literally eating while talking to me and standing up and moving around.
willow sedge
but have you ever interviewed with someone wearing pink cat ear headphones
peak pike
How far into the interview process did u get to
just behavorial
sharp cove
Did your behavioral go bad?
I didn’t think the recruiter threw any curve balls, at least not for me
peak pike
No it was great, I did perfectly fine- my recruiter was a robot, lacked personality, honestly glad I didn't move forward, would prefer a better company
what's a good salary for entry level SWE in CA?
sharp cove
In this market? Just get a job lol
peak pike
I have 3 offers
I just don't know which ones to take
the pay for all of them is not great imo, like min $70,000/yr
hot raven
what's a good salary for entry level SWE in CA?
for bay area at least 100k imo
grizzled bronze
I just don't know which ones to take
Maybe narrowing by location first would help, and then the company/cultural values/wlb
rustic vessel
Veeva behavioral sucks
sonic coral
one in roseville CA which is 70,000
I feel like 80k in upstate will go a lot further than Cali
grizzled bronze
Veeva behavioral sucks
Heard lots of bad things about their interview/hiring process, but I'd still take Veeva if I get an offer. High TC + remote
rustic vessel
Heard lots of bad things about their interview/hiring process, but I'd still tak...
Is it even remote? I thought you had to live near one of the offices from my interviews but idk.
grizzled bronze
Is it even remote? I thought you had to live near one of the offices from my int...
I was assuming Remote since the role had remote in there
unkempt forum
the person i talked to at veeva said that they are being choosy in who to hire due to the recession
grizzled bronze
the person i talked to at veeva said that they are being choosy in who to hire d...
Choosy in what way, like more internships?
unkempt forum
like people that would have passed the bar in the past won't pass the bar now
ivory stratus
like people that would have passed the bar in the past won't pass the bar now
I mean yeah it makes sense unfortunately
Less jobs = higher bar
unkempt forum
veeva literally rejects people who interned at meta since meta is on their blacklist
livid yew
lmfao
cedar gulch
That’s so weird
unkempt forum
they have a blacklist of companies that they wont hire people who worked there in the past
livid yew
unkempt forum
since in the past people who worked at meta left veeva
hot raven
veeva literally rejects people who interned at meta since meta is on their black...
Well then I’m fucked lol. They still asked me to schedule hr call tho 💀💀
livid yew
💀
late kestrel
<:COPIUM:838116120786370602>
hickie!!!!
unkempt forum
Well then I’m fucked lol. They still asked me to schedule hr call tho 💀💀
make sure you say you hated meta
then they might take you
hot raven
make sure you say you hated meta
Bet
unkempt forum
like say that meta wasn't a good culture fit
livid yew
hickie!!!!
Hacker Rank requires webcam now 💀
late kestrel
depends on the company and if they want it proctored or not
livid yew
livid yew
mossy fiber
ig veeva is kinda full, I told them I am a backend guy, and they arrange my team day with a "fullstack" team and the EM is literally a frontend guy
chilly burrow
ig veeva is kinda full, I told them I am a backend guy, and they arrange my team...
It's possible that the team needs a backend guy
sonic coral
Yeah that could mean the team is expanding and now wants a dedicated backend person
dry salmon
Worst interviewers I’ve ever seen. My interviewer was literally eating while tal...
Oh yeah you did tell me
I forgot
teal jackal
If you're interviewing with veeva talk about how you wouldn't want to go back to your ex faang company because the culture was bad
Even if that's total cap
night marsh
Yeah didn't have a good Veeva experience. Recruiter seemed cold and uninterested, and cut the call 10 minutes early
dusky mountain
Anyone who has interviewed with Karat interviewers before?
mossy fiber
its possible, but I feel like the em was not satisfying with my background cuz he said my works were too underlaying compare with what they r doing
sharp cove
Yeah didn't have a good Veeva experience. Recruiter seemed cold and uninterested...
Mine got cut a bit early too I think but moved onto OA
Maybe I just got lucky with a good recruiter
night marsh
Mine got cut a bit early too I think but moved onto OA
Probably so, but gz anyways
Yeah, it's pretty tough getting very few rounds but then there are even fewer of those where the recruiter sounds or seems interested
I'm well aware that isn't every recruiter, and I've had good ones in the past. But the few cold ones really make it annoying
peak pike
I feel like 80k in upstate will go a lot further than Cali
yeah probably, I am still waiting back from 3 other jobs, one in NM with $90,000 min, one in SD with $92,000 and another with $90,000 in cali
sonic coral
Honestly I would def take 80k in upstate over 90k in Cali you’re taking home more and rents cheaper
But yeah NM vs NY is gonna just be up to whether you prefer southwest or northeast
peak pike
it also a federal position so benefits will be
how could I go about asking for them to extend a deadline? this one company wants a response in a week
i got too much stuff going on with school to make a life decision of where i want to move too rn
sonic coral
it also a federal position so benefits will be <:thanospog:766459435441848363>
Which one is federal, NM?
peak pike
I am just stressed with the deadline for the cali job, a week is not great. I need atleast 2 weeks
maybe more
I am still waiting back from other places with offers
sonic coral
Tbh idk if you should consider the Cali ones unless you REALLY wanna live in Cali
peak pike
I already live in cali
sonic coral
Like both 90k nm and 80k upstate are better imo
peak pike
I am like 30 mins away from the cali job
sonic coral
Oh that changes things
peak pike
well
sonic coral
Yeah I see
peak pike
well let me rephrase
yeah
my family home is 3 hours away
i live on campus 30 mins away
torn stone
Does applied intuition call to reject after phone screen?
ebon elk
Anyone here who interviewed with HPE? want to know about their interview process
pulsar mural
vagrant escarp
@pulsar mural
blazing sonnet
Is anyone here interviewed with TATA Consultancy services(TCS)?
pulsar mural
TATA CONSULTING
shut crescent
tata consulting is sketch isnt it
vagrant escarp
isnt it just one of those consultancy companies that middleman ur paycheck?
shut crescent
my friend did that @blazing sonnet they really underpay alot
blazing sonnet
isnt it just one of those consultancy companies that middleman ur paycheck?
i think so
vagrant escarp
yeah id say avoid at all cost
blazing sonnet
desperate times guys
shut crescent
yeah but think about how much time ur going to waste vs the time u can use to keep applying/interviewing
or even grind for interview prep
vagrant escarp
they underpay but its one of the good ones
yeah surprisingly they have good reviews on glassdoor, not sure if its artificially generated by making the people who they are training leave it
or if its genuine
shut crescent
are u guys getting more interviews now btw? im starting to get a few rolls
graceful crown
no bro
vagrant escarp
are u guys getting more interviews now btw? im starting to get a few rolls
yeah recently been getting a lot more
shut crescent
yeah i think they are finally coming back to new grads? lol
vagrant escarp
like 4 or 5 this week