react 🥫 to ban @livid yew
#2023_grads
brave forge
late kestrel
exactly so shitposting is ok as long as it aint these dirty ftes 
pulsar mural
🥫
brave forge
he left lmao
late kestrel
pulsar mural
@livid yew
livid yew
@pulsar mural
weary flax
fuck me he's back
late kestrel
no more pink name
livid yew
I just did not want the pink name anymore
weary flax
wait i phrased it wrong
brave forge
I just did not want the pink name anymore
no more diamond either
vagrant escarp
And we have @pulsar mural here makin so much money a 4’11 girl is 6’6 when standin on the bank she’s raking in
late kestrel
techie isnt bubblegum pink anymore 
livid yew
livid yew
late kestrel
aw man its back
livid yew
brave forge
gif that is not kpop impossible
weary flax
teal jackal
Yeah I hope nothing worse happens since I don't really want to be forced into a Chinese American internment camp
vagrant escarp
yo where the unemployed peeps at
vagrant escarp
go back to work
wheat jacinth
has anyone been able to negotiate their offer after signing it?
vagrant escarp
has anyone been able to negotiate their offer after signing it?
this is a popular resouruce
livid yew
With what?
livid yew
ivory stratus
yo
pulsar mural
Yo
ivory stratus
is it better to just slowly do LC grind or do like 2 questions a day
trying to prep for 2024 recruiting
ya boi wants some money
faint igloo
in this case is slowly grind like 1 question a day?
ivory stratus
yeah lol
faint igloo
ontop of that how much lc have u done so far
faint igloo
u covered most topics?
lone rapids
had a rescheduled call cuz last time recruiter didn't call. Its 5 mins already over the scheduled time
stone granite
Which company?
faint igloo
i guess if u want u can basically do 1 a day for now and once exams end u can def ramp it up
lone rapids
these bitch recruiters are no wonder getting fired mfs dont even do their job
pure mauve
lmfao
vagrant escarp
these bitch recruiters are no wonder getting fired mfs dont even do their job
lol i mean thats not even true
just the hiring frenzy is over, so just like how they are letting go of tech people, they are letting go of recruiters as well
much fewer jobs that they have to fill, so they are just being selective
ivory stratus
doesn't mean that they shouldn't respond to people though or let them know where they are in the process
vagrant escarp
yeah that is true, its more polite to respond..but also getting mad is kind of pointless
vagrant escarp
the companies are doing this 24/7
and i mean personally i dont even see it as that big of a deal, if u are working at a job for 80k and a fanng company comes knocking on ur door with a 250k salary, u'd be a moron if u dont drop the other company
and no one would blame u if u did either
the same way for companies, they are just trying to find the best candidate, and if they are talking to 20 people, sometimes its easier to just ghost em
lone rapids
Rescheduled and didn’t show up again. That frustrating.
Ghosting is one thing and not showing up another
vagrant escarp
Rescheduled and didn’t show up again. That frustrating.
yeah it is bro, but what can ya do?
its a norm now in this market
lone rapids
At least call them bitch and mfs
vagrant escarp
they are recinding offers, after waving a 6 fig paycheck infront of people
torpid birch
the same way for companies, they are just trying to find the best candidate, and...
It's really not it looks terrible for your company
You can literally copy paste a rejection template
vagrant escarp
It's really not it looks terrible for your company
yes my point is its pointless to complain about it and let it affect ur mental health
if ur goal is to get a job, complaining about a company ghosting u is not going to make a job magically appear
unless u do it on linkedin, then someone might reach out
but on discord, it aint gon do shit for u
lone rapids
So what u want me to do? Go on linkedin and be like oh they didnt call me 2nd time? They approached me first. I didnt
nova reef
@vagrant escarp's point is we cant help u here, but if you spread the news on linkedin, ppl there might be able to help u
vagrant escarp
So what u want me to do? Go on linkedin and be like oh they didnt call me 2nd ti...
i mean...i wouldn't because i feel like getting ghosted by companies is such a small thing, but theres people on linkedin crying about getting 40 rejects
and ive applied to over 600 jobs at this point
and i havn't once complained about being rejected
just continue on working on improving ur resume, lc, stories to say over phone interviews, etc
steep hinge
I know I am a bit late to the game but got a offer pulled out, so the grind re-begins. Could anyone help me with finding companies that are still hiring?
vagrant escarp
I know I am a bit late to the game but got a offer pulled out, so the grind re-b...
ye bro i think epic systems is hiring
recently heard back from them
it seems that they are pretty friendly to new grads as long as u are able to perform well on the technical assessment
around 130k TC
dusky tapir
it seems that they are pretty friendly to new grads as long as u are able to per...
Fym friendly 💀
vagrant escarp
Fym friendly 💀
fine ill reword it, willing to hire😂
they get a lot of criticism for WLB, but from reading reviews it seems that its partly dependent on which team u get put on
and having to work super hard imo is better than no job
dusky tapir
Epic makes shitty software
vagrant escarp
Epic makes shitty software
dont care, if im gettin paid 130k ill help em make whatever
steep hinge
Bruh, I remember I ignored Epic's emails in the Fall 💀
vagrant escarp
Bruh, I remember I ignored Epic's emails in the Fall 💀
its fine reach back out xD
they do require u to relocate to wisconsin tho
sharp cove
they do require u to relocate to wisconsin tho
yes
dusky tapir
Epic is like Amazon but with mid tier tc and in the middle of bumfuck Wisconsin
vagrant escarp
just depends on what ur open to
sharp cove
Epic is like Amazon but with mid tier tc and in the middle of bumfuck Wisconsin
i would say it's worse
steep hinge
Yea I'll send the awkward I forgot to reply for 4 months reply and see what happens
sharp cove
at least with amazon, you get brand value for resume
at epic, you just get abused for 🥜
and work on old tech
fallen fox
Bruh, I remember I ignored Epic's emails in the Fall 💀
same 💀
steep hinge
Epic is like Amazon but with mid tier tc and in the middle of bumfuck Wisconsin
Ah no... my time at Amazon was challenging enough, don't wanna get a worse team at epic
vagrant escarp
i would say it's worse
yes its obv "worse" but its way better than being unemployed with no job and complaining and being surprised about being ghosted
fallen fox
isn't epic in madison?
fallen fox
beautiful town
vagrant escarp
i thought they only sponsor UW students
fallen fox
do u have green card or citizenship?
no which is why i never replied back
vagrant escarp
ah i see
steep hinge
yes its obv "worse" but its way better than being unemployed with no job and com...
true that
vagrant escarp
and imagine people complaining about having to "work hard" while getting paid 130k
if u have options, then sure go to a fanng
teal jackal
at least with amazon, you get brand value for resume
Have to say people say Amazon brand name is watered down now but it still impresses many
outer radish
https://haseebq.com/my-ten-rules-for-negotiating-a-job-offer/
someone shuold make a 10 rules for getting a mf job as a new grad wit 3 internships
dusky tapir
at epic, you just get abused for 🥜
Lmao
sharp cove
Have to say people say Amazon brand name is watered down now but it still impres...
it will still impress a lot of companies not in that tech bubble
dusky tapir
Amazon is fr goated tho. It literally helped inflate cs salaries by so much
vagrant escarp
Amazon is fr goated tho. It literally helped inflate cs salaries by so much
yeah if u look at cs jobs outside US, they pay literally minimum wage
dusky tapir
They hire like 10x the engineers at fb or googl and pay basically the same
outer radish
Have to say people say Amazon brand name is watered down now but it still impres...
definitely not imo, not cause i worked there
vagrant escarp
minimum wage in the US
outer radish
the kicker with amazon is the scale of data you work with, like literally millions of lines of data from millions of customers
dusky tapir
the kicker with amazon is the scale of data you work with, like literally millio...
most SWEs in Amazon don’t even work on the retail website they work on aws
teal jackal
Yeah SWE experience at amazon impresses employers a tier below them
I find that this year it seems hard to upgrade in prestige/TC from intern to new grad
yeah
teal jackal
Amazon is fr goated tho. It literally helped inflate cs salaries by so much
Amazon changed our lives tbh
outer radish
I find that this year it seems hard to upgrade in prestige/TC from intern to new...
yeah got absolutely fucked lmao
forget tiers at this point i just need a job
teal jackal
I think you're also competing with a lot of ex-metamates who havent been able to get an offer
meta intern resume value got fucked by not giving return offers
vagrant escarp
yeah...
outer radish
ngl this recession has definitely forced me to be a better eng though
learning and building tech outside of my immediate comfort zone to stand out
sonic coral
Amazon has very few companies at the same scale for swe work
You learn a shitload as a swe there
vagrant escarp
i mean there was that one dude complaining saying he had a masters degree in ML and wondering why companies arent jumping at him with offers, the reality is companies would rather hire someone already with ML experience in big tech than someone who has no experience and a PHD in ML
and the person with ML experience got there by transitioning inside the company
sonic coral
Yeah it’s basically a trial by fire
vagrant escarp
more real world experience and application, a mass majority of ML PHD papers are out there but are useless because they cant be applied to the real world
teal jackal
Amazon creates cracked people
Amazon SDEs are also good at QA and devops since they have to do that shit themselves
tardy geode
oh is it
?
my friend joined 6 months back and has only commited 178 Lines of code.
thats concerning
vagrant escarp
@tardy geode u also international?
vagrant escarp
yeah like i actually have sympathy for international students, they gotta get a job or they get deported, and its hard to get a company to sponsor a new grad
tardy geode
very hard
vagrant escarp
all the other clowns complaining about getting ghosted? like fk outa here with that bull shit
tardy geode
vagrant escarp
yes we all get ghosted lol, they actin like they got wronged to the worst level
tardy geode
it would be hard af to pay back the loan if i work back home
would take me certain years
😦
outer radish
its fucked how much politics there were
tardy geode
i am more concerned about paying back the loan now , my first priority is to clear that off . that's why i am even okay if the company won't sponsor
atleast it would help me payback quickly
in like a few months
and help me maintain my status
vagrant escarp
i am more concerned about paying back the loan now , my first priority is to cle...
yeah good luck brother, loans can def be stressful
try making connections and just reaching out to other people with sponsored visas, maybe they will understand ur struggle and lend u a hand
tardy geode
yeah good luck brother, loans can def be stressful
ty ❤️ , yeah it is . lot of sacrifices involved in this journey . haven't visited home since the last 2 years
tardy geode
try making connections and just reaching out to other people with sponsored visa...
most of the time i connect with people on linkedin rather than preping
its like 8 hours is just this , 4-5 hours is actual study
the actual prep starts when you have an interview lined up / coming up , do you guys also feel the same ?
vagrant escarp
the actual prep starts when you have an interview lined up / coming up , do you ...
for me its constant prep lol, theres always more LC problems to do
if u find out u have an interview next week, theres only so much prep u can do
the prep i do after an interview is scheduled is just doing prep for that company and reading glassdoor on their interview process
teal jackal
all the other clowns complaining about getting ghosted? like fk outa here with t...
that's really extreme to say
I mean yeah it's not like their future for the next 5 years is dependent on this search
but I think there's a lot more to their situations that you dont see
vagrant escarp
that's really extreme to say
I mean yeah it's not like their future for the next...
yeah i mean another reason is also...complaining is not good for their mental health
their mindset is to place blame and not actually think of solutions
and they end up being in a place where its "i did everything perfectly, i am qualified, I have experience, I was friendly, yet they rejected me"
teal jackal
Yup, the idea of URA and raising the bar every year is total cancer
URA and bar raiser shit is the reason though why amazon could afford to hire so much
vagrant escarp
they just take it too personal
steep hinge
@vagrant escarp got really offended by the guy complaining about getting ghosted earlier lol
vagrant escarp
<@142478243478503424> got really offended by the guy complaining about getting g...
lol bro trust me im not offended
i just know they are on here looking for sympathy
and if all they do is complain, they will be back week after week complaining
steep hinge
kids nowadays
teal jackal
Tbh though the more specific your career goals are the harder they may be to accomplish
ML is hard to break into as an entry level dev
vagrant escarp
ML is hard to break into as an entry level dev
exactly
steep hinge
true
vagrant escarp
i want to get into machine learning too
steep hinge
me too! that's cool
vagrant escarp
but i have realistic expectations and I know i prob have to get into fang and look to transfer
livid yew
steep hinge
you mean all those online courses to become a developer in weeks?
vagrant escarp
I heard that the boot camp gold rush is finally starting to die
ye i dont know much about bootcamp but i only know of one guy who had a bootcamp experience like 3-4 years ago and he got a google job
so i always assumed it worked
but now im hearing otherwise
rigid quail
just take your experience applying for jobs from a 4 year university, LC grinding and maybe even internship experiences that are usually only open to post-secondary students, and remove literally all of that, and that's your average bootcamp grad 
some of them do grind LC for sure, but I'm willing to bet most of them don't and think 16 weeks of react will land you a 6 figure job, which for a lucky few it might but definitely not this year
vagrant escarp
yeah that is true, without any data structure and algorithms background, i can see LC being a struggle
tardy geode
for me its constant prep lol, theres always more LC problems to do
i see , what language do you LC in ?
chilly burrow
so i always assumed it worked
Nah lol
That's just survivor bias
The ppl who succeeded from bootcamp r just more likely to talk abt it
Yes you were able to land good jobs out of bootcamp
But the majority don't
vagrant escarp
That's just survivor bias
yeah that makes sense
shut crescent
i see , what language do you LC in ?
i always do interviews/LC in python
vagrant escarp
yeah python is just a great language
it is honestly the future with all the ML libraries made in python
shut crescent
also how are you guys applying for jobs nowadays? like finding actual open roles and not fake open roles if u know what i mean lol
fallen fox
spray and pray
vagrant escarp
throw ur resume at the wall and see what sticks
chilly burrow
i always do interviews/LC in python
I do em in Java
vagrant escarp
and make sure ur LC and soft skills are on point so u dont fumble the bag
ivory stratus
and make sure ur LC and soft skills are on point so u dont fumble the bag
but i have butter fingers
vagrant escarp
can this be done in less lines of code?
hold up ima try this problem too
tardy geode
hold up ima try this problem too
sureee
tardy geode
Dfs1 and df2 could b 1 func, no?
how?
chilly burrow
Like it's the same function?
vagrant escarp
my initial method of trying to solve that is u could separate it into 2 problems
chilly burrow
Legit just call both with dfs1
vagrant escarp
have 1 where it adds all the values into a list, and then use 2 pointers to find if target exists
chilly burrow
But pass list as a parameter as well
vagrant escarp
since its a BST, this could be done in o(n)
tardy geode
But pass list as a parameter as well
ohhh i see
chilly burrow
Also this could be optimized i think
vagrant escarp
there is def a more optimized option
chilly burrow
By going through the first lsit
vagrant escarp
where u directly traverse the tree
vagrant escarp
im only seeing the problem rn, so i need more time to come up with it
vagrant escarp
but since its a BST there is most likely a way to directly traverse it to find the target number
is a yearly lc membership worth it?
considering buying it rn, i already paid for 3 months of it, so thats like 105 dollars
prob shoulda just went for the year one from the start
chilly burrow
is a yearly lc membership worth it?
i think its worth but u can get most lc qs for free from lintcode
tardy geode
i see less job postings , is it coz its monday?
neon perch
Anyone heard back from cohesity?
tardy geode
Anyone heard back from cohesity?
reject
neon perch
Fk, resume?
neon perch
No I applied a few days ago not heard anything yet
tardy geode
also in their job desc i saw its written May 2022
neon perch
Yeah they’re looking for those on May or before grad
limber roost
Does anyone know about Viasat interview process?
tardy geode
i write open to all offers
neon perch
All I see on fidelity careers are principle, senior and director level roles tf
Why do they have so many high level positions open
grizzled bronze
Apply but have low expectations, they did layoffs recently and they're also very strict with resume screening
neon perch
May I know what website you’re using to check these openings
vagrant escarp
Apply but have low expectations, they did layoffs recently and they're also very...
Oh I saw the masters degree and I didn’t even apply
vagrant escarp
May I know what website you’re using to check these openings
Indeed
errant karma
Ageism
teal jackal
mouth wide open like i was at the dentist
vagrant escarp
neon perch
Link the problem
errant karma
vagrant escarp
rip bro, u poor or somethin?
errant karma
Intern money is finished
vagrant escarp
i look at it as an investment
i pay 150 for a year membership to lock down a job that pays 6 figs
tardy geode
does anybody have a good list for a beginner at LC
errant karma
I have a job already so the free version is enough for me
tardy geode
i mean if anybody has made it on LC and can share that would be great
late kestrel
i mean if u start with all the easies on neetcode 150 and then move on to the mediums thats kinda a beginner list
vagrant escarp
i mean if anybody has made it on LC and can share that would be great
i started out by just filtering to the top 100 interview questions/easy
and just only doing the easy ones
but yeah looking back that was super unstructured
neon perch
does anybody have a good list for a beginner at LC
You’re intermediate easily not beginner
tardy geode
i started out by just filtering to the top 100 interview questions/easy
i see
vagrant escarp
following neetcode's thing would've been better
his videos are really helpful ngl
tardy geode
You’re intermediate easily not beginner
i was thinking to start all over and grind like crazy
vagrant escarp
he draws out the algorithm and everything
tardy geode
i mean if u start with all the easies on neetcode 150 and then move on to the me...
i see , i am doing that
errant karma
i pay 150 for a year membership to lock down a job that pays 6 figs
there is the leetcode knock of called lintcode that has all the premium questions free
tardy geode
shit at recursion so i suck at many tree probs , graphs and DP i can't even do them .
vagrant escarp
there is the leetcode knock of called lintcode that has all the premium question...
ye i heard about that too, but i kinda just prefer leetcode since they also have filter system based on companies
i basically just paid for convenience sake
but yeah if someones tryna save money, lintcode def the way to go
late kestrel
ye i heard about that too, but i kinda just prefer leetcode since they also have...
i paid for 2 months last fall to grind tagged qs that were premium
prime palm
felt like a genius i could solve it without thinking hard
late kestrel
so worth the 75 bucks or whatever
prime palm
oh god
vagrant escarp
so worth the 75 bucks or whatever
yeah for sure!
getting the job is like at least 50% leetcode, so might as well get really good at it
tardy geode
ban leetcode forever
errant karma
They normally have Black Friday deals too. I don't remember how much it was per year though
tardy geode
i am only doing it to get a job , otherwise i absolutely hate it
vagrant escarp
They normally have Black Friday deals too. I don't remember how much it was per ...
ye at first i was paying monthly, did that for 3 months
didnt realize the job search was gonna take this long
vagrant escarp
i am only doing it to get a job , otherwise i absolutely hate it
it'll get satisfying once u are able to spot a medium problem and just know how to solve it
errant karma
I am sad binarysearch dot com is no longer there. We used to grind everyday. 
vagrant escarp
its hard in the beginning for sure because u have no clue how some of these algorithms or patterns work
but it gets easier after a while, trust
tardy geode
it'll get satisfying once u are able to spot a medium problem and just know how ...
i am waiting for that day grinding
shrewd juniper
Job hunting is so sadge
tardy geode
its hard in the beginning for sure because u have no clue how some of these algo...
i am kinda aware of the patterns
prime palm
yes it's quite sadge
tardy geode
i am like close to an intermediate but way ahead of a beginner ig
vagrant escarp
i am kinda aware of the patterns
yeah my approach when looking at a problem is trying to figure out which data structure i should use to most efficiently solve a problem
or what i think the minimum time complexity of a problem is
cuz based on the question u can kind of guess what the time complexity has to at least be even if u dont know the solution
prime palm
ye at first i was paying monthly, did that for 3 months
every january for the last 3 years i always bought lc premium
but this january i bought a chess subscription instead
lol
west egret
so worth the 75 bucks or whatever
I paid 100 for a full year lmao. Used it for 2-3 weeks. Worth it though for the offer.
raw echo
chess subscription is new grokking interview 🤔
neon perch
Damn IXL sending out offers today it seems
faint umbra
Damn IXL sending out offers today it seems
yes, but I can still see their job openings. Are they still hiring ??
neon perch
I think so
pulsar mural
@neon perch
dawn sequoia
YAHKUNA
neon perch
<@712767022487830559>
?
shut crescent
can this be done in less lines of code?
lst1,lst2 = [],[] 😉
tardy geode
lst1,lst2 = [],[] 😉
thanks i already figured it out tho , felt dumb that time smh .
vagrant escarp
thanks i already figured it out tho , felt dumb that time smh .
yeah you had the right idea, getting it into a list first
the thing about LC is there are only so many patterns to do these kinds of problems
basically just a combination of traversing through the tree to add the root values + this difficulty:easy LC problem
chilly burrow
Yo is Walmart hiring new grads?
Have u tried google?
neon perch
Obviously just asking to get any specific links whatsoever
gray dagger
Yo is Walmart hiring new grads?
They don’t sponsor unless it’s SWE 3
neon perch
God damn 🥲
weary junco
But are they hiring new grad?
neon perch
I had a friend that got into Walmart non swe position tho
pure mauve
Man new grad is so crazy selective this year
HR for tiktok told me that im top .1% of all candidates
but theres 1 spot and im at least top 3
teal jackal
HR for tiktok told me that im top .1% of all candidates
HOLY
teal jackal
but theres 1 spot and im at least top 3
That's rough
grizzled bronze
It's just 163 applicants in 1 day
The position has been posted over and over, so they weren't all in one day
cloud zinc
do you need premium to check percentages
split igloo
are majority of grads international? I saw one job posting has 80% of master applicants with applied from overseas
late kestrel
probably not
but theres probably a disproportionate # of them still looking for a job rn
split igloo
I thought that it would be easier for them to get a job
late kestrel
not international students
companies have to sponsor
- there are a lot of them, so they compete for a smaller pool of jobs already
dusky tapir
HR for tiktok told me that im top .1% of all candidates
Baha u wish
They just keeping u in their orbit
pure mauve
we shall see @dusky tapir
azure oar
but this january i bought a chess subscription instead
lol what chess site? 🙂
prime palm
lol what chess site? 🙂
chess.com I didn't think there were other websites
azure oar
oh yeah chess.com is the only one with subscriptions oops
i forgot lichess only asks for donations
vagrant escarp
we shall see <@460868683313446912>
gl man!
bleak bobcat
If I'm graduating in December, do I need to wait for the next application cycle starting in July to start applying full time?
neon perch
If I'm graduating in December, do I need to wait for the next application cycle ...
Won’t that be messed up for those graduating in May?
bleak bobcat
Won’t that be messed up for those graduating in May?
Wdym?
I have friends who did start in January before
after graduating in Dec
neon perch
Like technically there should be applications open now as well for the batch graduating in May but there seems to be barely anything
I mean sucks for everyone but May grad will face lots of issues
neon perch
after graduating in Dec
Yeah usually Dec grads begin in Jan/feb
bleak bobcat
Like technically there should be applications open now as well for the batch gra...
Well rn, economy is kind of bad right
I was hoping next season cycle would maybe help
bleak bobcat
When do you graduate?
Dec 23
I am trying to grind lc rn
My goal is at least 100-120k TC
buoyant thicket
anyone here looking for security engineer new grads position?
vagrant escarp
anyone here looking for security engineer new grads position?
i have a friend who is, u recruiting?
tardy geode
yeah you had the right idea, getting it into a list first
yeppp
tardy geode
If I'm graduating in December, do I need to wait for the next application cycle ...
this year is kinda fucked , so doesn't matter whenever you graduate
i mean the whole world and their mothers are waiting for NG 2024 and i don't think companies would hire so many NG's as they did before
buoyant thicket
no looking also @vagrant escarp it has been so hard getting one
vagrant escarp
no looking also <@142478243478503424> it has been so hard getting one
yeah he said hes also been struggling
bleak bobcat
this year is kinda fucked , so doesn't matter whenever you graduate
I think I will hopefully have backup offer from my intern place this summer, but that is $75k, so I want to keep that as backup
chilly burrow
anyone here looking for security engineer new grads position?
Check out: https://discord.gg/cybersecurity
split igloo
yo is it legal for asking applicants to upload their photo for the job application?
timber rock
there are 168 hours in a week and qualcomm choose the ONE hour that week that i have a meeting
for my interview
buoyant thicket
thanks! do they recruit in there? @chilly burrow
tardy geode
I think I will hopefully have backup offer from my intern place this summer, but...
just accept whatever you are getting in this economy , can't be TC thirsty unless you have multiple offers in hand
I am international , i have just been getting rejects left and right . its not that I am applying using the same resume and stuff , i am tweaking it according to the JD provided i can answer stuff on my resume (not blatantly faking things) . Also i have limited time which makes it a bit difficult . so for me getting even low TC offer is fine
ivory stratus
yo is it legal for asking applicants to upload their photo for the job applicati...
No it's not legal
grizzled bronze
yo is it legal for asking applicants to upload their photo for the job applicati...
I don't think so (assuming this is in the US), unless you're applying for a modeling or acting job
split igloo
I don't think so (assuming this is in the US), unless you're applying for a mode...
Dang, it's a web dev job post on linkedIn and based in the US
night marsh
I am international , i have just been getting rejects left and right . its not t...
I'm sure you've tried this but how did talking to your school's career center go?
I've heard they can match you with new employers
tardy geode
I'm sure you've tried this but how did talking to your school's career center go...
not much of any help
😦
they give generalized answers
night marsh
Oh that's unfortunate
livid yew
Frick is just bizarre. So polite
tender sluice
Frick is just bizarre. So polite
bro FRIK bro
timber rock
i wnat job
grizzled bronze
bro FRIK bro
FRIK FRIK my homie 
late kestrel
Frick is just bizarre. So polite
HEY
@livid yew what did i say
@livid yew FRIK OFF
livid yew
<@106089884585861120> FRIK OFF
late kestrel
<:dogesmile:922937091195797514>
thats not FRIKing off
livid yew
thats not FRIKing off
late kestrel
livid yew
chilly burrow
thanks! do they recruit in there? <@293841430089170946>
No it's just a server of ppl wanting to pursue cybersec
cloud zinc
Damn just received three rejection emails in the span of 10 minutes
night marsh
Damn just received three rejection emails in the span of 10 minutes
Same here bud 🫂
prime palm
Damn just received three rejection emails in the span of 10 minutes
that's 1 every 3.33 min
cloud zinc
that's 1 every 3.33 min
Technically there were two back to back rejections between one minute, followed by another on 9 minutes in
prime palm
hmm so it's like some sliding window bs
cloud zinc
Guess they broke my heart in O(n) time, with O(0) space to grieve 
prime palm
certified drolatic moment
night marsh
Rejection unboxing video when
vagrant escarp
How’s the job search going this morning?
frozen cradle
just got stood up for a scheduled interview on my birthday man 
timber rock
Missed a recruiter's call and she ain't picking up my call back
😩
Other than that its an extremely dry inbox
cloud zinc
How’s the job search going this morning?
trying to find a job posting below 200 applicants on LinkedIn is like finding a needle in a haystack
vagrant escarp
trying to find a job posting below 200 applicants on LinkedIn is like finding a ...
Epic systems!!!
cloud zinc
I already applied there. Plus, how was your assessment?
vagrant escarp
Havnt taken it yet
This afternoon
From what I’ve read online it sounds like a big decider of whether someone gets hired for SD is how they do on the assessment
tender sluice
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE JOB
cloud zinc
From what I’ve read online it sounds like a big decider of whether someone gets ...
Damn. And mine is on Friday too.
vagrant escarp
Damn. And mine is on Friday too.
Study and do well
Sleep well the night before
I feel like this hiring season may be more strict on the assessment too
From a combination of more new grads applying there because they have less options and if they slowed down hiring
obsidian oxide
tender sluice
FRIK, FRIK, FRIK, FRIK, FRIK, BRICK, CLICK, DICK, FLICK, KICK, LICK, MICK, NICK, PICK, QUICK, RICK, SHTICK, STICK, THICK, TRICK, WICK, CHICK, SLICK, PRICK, SHTICK, FRIK.
late kestrel
chilly burrow
just got stood up for a scheduled interview on my birthday man <:KEKW_RECESSION_...
Damn sorry to hear that 😞. Happy birthday tho 🎂.
chilly burrow
wondering compared to 2008
livid yew
<:y_ugh:832208208428662814>
daring gazelle
Tbh if I am not homeless yet means its still not that bad
I want this to get worse i am bored
late kestrel
<:worryWeird:1046566050814247012>
i got a 95 on my databases quiz
now scram
get outta here
daring gazelle
Btw have anyone here interviewed with h&r block?
fallen fox
what are new grads without internships and lc doin
late kestrel
what are new grads without internships and lc doin
applying to local/non tech companies
like h&r block 👍
cloud zinc
what are new grads without internships and lc doin
Despite having three internships, I've had the same struggles as some joe schmo with no internships
got roasted by r/cscareerquestions because of this
fallen fox
i have 2 internships, inc one at Oracle and I just got rejected from a garbage collection company for a junior dev role
cloud zinc
https://tenor.com/view/wheniwasolder-gif-20838458
you don't gotta tell me twice, /j
split igloo
I am not gonna complain even I get paid less than my prev internship in this economy as new grad
thick heart
Does anyone receive MathWorks OA?
Is this automatic? Not necessarily lead you to the interview if you do well?
cedar gulch
neon perch
Does anyone receive MathWorks OA?
Yup it’s automatic
Bro why isn’t H&R Block responding to me ffs like what’s the issue for not hearing back man
neon perch
Btw have anyone here interviewed with h&r block?
When did you apply and when did you hear back?
wow damn
neon perch
they swiped left on u
Fr 💀
fallen fox
Btw have anyone here interviewed with h&r block?
did you write a cover letter
bold pier
"Thank you for applying to SoftMicro, but your resume was mid. Get Rekt!"
stone granite
Yup it’s automatic
I don’t think so. The whole hirevue plus OA thing is initiated after resume check afaik.
ivory stratus
They come up with some WILD ass terms for the word rejection nowadays
i want a company to reply "It's not you, it's us"
cyan horizon
Had this happen thrice now so I could do with some help
I interviewed with each of these 3 companies and in the interview itself they say they'd like for me to proceed to the next round. Sounds great but they never get back, despite repeated follow ups and the next round hasn't happened (yet). What are possible reasons a company would ghost after saying they want me to go to the next round?
teal jackal
i want a company to reply "It's not you, it's us"
I'm pretty sure a fair bit do
pure mauve
Had this happen thrice now so I could do with some help
I interviewed with each...
same as you, except after passing phone, they tell me that I pass, and to give availability dates but no replied after followups each week
all I can prolly say is move on
@cyan horizon
rain patio
im tempted to settle for like a technical writing gig as this point i dont give a fuck
cyan horizon
all I can prolly say is move on
Yeah not much more we can do ig. I just wanted to know why they do that
pure mauve
they prolly too many candidates, or hirign freeze or role fills up
if not just say u have a deadline
flat cradle
How is the job market rn compared to a year ago
livid yew
pure mauve
difficulty is impossible
late kestrel
whole cypress
best time to get job 
whole berry
if the difficulty is hard, getting a job now is a testament
more endorphins
more dopamine
you name it
gleaming fable
How is the job market rn compared to a year ago
it couldn't be more different bro
I had no internships, just big-ish school projects and grinded LC and I got a good pre-IPO startup at 120k base
and 2 other offers, 1 from IBM and 1 from a boutique consultancy
I'd get absolutely nothing if I were graduating this year
flat cradle
Tough
outer radish
I had no internships, just big-ish school projects and grinded LC and I got a go...
i would kill for this
stacked 3 internships for me to be scrapping CRUMBS at the bottom of the linkedin barrel
fallen fox
How is the job market rn compared to a year ago
A friend of mine (international student) graduated with no internships; no good projects and was still getting multiple interviews and ended up with a 160k offer in NY
flat cradle
So job market is good?
fallen fox
He graduated end of 2021
thick cave
Job market was cracked 1 year ago
calm shale
So job market is good?
best it's ever been
gleaming fable
yeah job market was stupid good last year
its not too bad outside of tech rn but competition is fierce
never been more career switchers and grads trying to get their 1st job
flat cradle
best it's ever been
Lets gooo
tardy geode
So job market is good?
no
neon perch
A friend of mine (international student) graduated with no internships; no good ...
That’d be more than a dream rn for all international students
neon perch
So job market is good?
Yeah
prime palm
A friend of mine (international student) graduated with no internships; no good ...
What company
slow owl
if a company says the position is Software Engineer in Test and the HM says the role is to write test procedures for embedded systems, is the role in Software Dev or QA??
bold pier
if a company says the position is Software Engineer in Test and the HM says the ...
Software Engineer in Test is QA, and that's what it sounds like
slow owl
its terrible lmao
slow owl
terrible for new grads*
steady canyon
terrible for everyone unless you know company secrets lmao
prime palm
Sounds like Bloomberg?
slow owl
ngl this is toxic but when i get resume rejected i look up who the company hired on LinkedIn and their resumes they have posted on their profiles are terrible but they still got hired because the market was good
even if they get laid off rn they would still be more competitive than new grads because they have work experience
anyway back to the grind 😔
steady canyon
ngl this is toxic but when i get resume rejected i look up who the company hired...
ye ive done that too..
its like a nice way to motivate myself tho lmao, if they can do it so can i
slow owl
that's a more positive way to look at it
ivory stratus
no it's true though
the market was so much better last year
this year sucks so bad
I'm lucky I even have an internship this semester
that will hopefully lead to full time
whole berry
saw on tiktok earlier today someone sayin that if youre in tech you arrived just as the party got raided by the cops
fossil jewel
that’s a fact tho
whole berry
ya
fossil jewel
everyone was on the hype bc of all the day of lifers
whole berry
basically
fossil jewel
get rich quick scheme bootcamp promises
timber rock
tech is dead. blacksmithing is the way forward
fossil jewel
and companies over hiring like stupid bc let’s throw ML and shit at everything even if it doesn’t make sense
whole berry
yeah tech is dead, i wonder what the next hype will be for get rich quick schemes
fallen fox
What company
IEX
fossil jewel
yeah tech is dead, i wonder what the next hype will be for get rich quick scheme...
i don’t think tech is dead dead
i think the craze was going too HIGH
needed to reach equilibrium
ivory stratus
yeah tech is not close to dead
tech is still the best prospective career for the forseeable future
timber rock
tech is dead guys
fossil jewel
like bruh it’s time to move away from php and jquery
ivory stratus
meanwhile you can retire at 40
whole berry
plumber salary >>>>>>
timber rock
not much different from the average cs student
fossil jewel
whole berry
except the cs student ass crack is their face explaining some concept to a first year
bold pier
F500 are gonna swoop up a lot of the talent
Half the F500 work with consultancies and service orgs
Does anyone else have issue applying to Pinterest, mf won't let me create account
timber shoal
Anyone done/in process with Vatic Investments?
neon perch
Most people are saying it's not good
Don’t believe them, they’re lying
teal jackal
yeah tech is dead, i wonder what the next hype will be for get rich quick scheme...
the bootcamps with the get rich quick mentality need to die tbh
I welcome that those will be gone with the recession
teal jackal
Your internship?
ivory stratus
cant wait to actually do work with my degree
yeah
guess it's counted as contract work so can just list it as software engineer
ivory stratus
yeah so stoked
fuuuuuuu
imagine
IMAGINE having 500% more job openings
to apply for
or close to at least
timber rock
common 2023 grad L
ivory stratus
yup
ivory stratus
doesn't mean that people will go into tech
chilly burrow
Like Pokémon cards
ivory stratus
a lot of people do end up either getting their masters or doing another career field
or research
but yeah that increase is rough
timber rock
tech is dead, we go back to the stone age now
tech is dead because twilio had layoffs
ivory stratus
i feel like cause they don't need to
like
apple and samsung back in the early days of smartphones, there was a huge race to get better and better features and stuff
but now that innovation has slowed down, they just need to do things well
idk man
timber rock
this is extreme online doomer shit and i love it
ivory stratus
im just a student i dont know shit
but like tech is already so advanced compared to 100 years ago that innovation has slowed down
because they went to Windows Phone
lmao
they didn't innovate
timber rock
because they made shitty phones
ivory stratus
they made good build quality phones
but that was it
no innovation
exactly
the people who are dead set on "tradition" are the ones who fail
have to evolve to stay in the market
i mean
Meta made sense
right technology, wrong time
yeah and he probably made hella money
and is making hella money lol
yeah idk
is that the Map app thing?
i feel like i remember reading something about it but forget what it was
i mean yeah makes sense though
whoever ends up buying said app or product wants to run it their way
can't say all companies, but most companies
flat cradle
Don’t believe them, they’re lying
Y
sonic coral
Tf is an M1 position
grizzled bronze
Tf is an M1 position
sonic coral
https://tenor.com/view/apple-apple-m1-apple-m1pro-apple-m1max-m1-gif-23544318
So like a skip?
In between team manager and director I’m guessing
Huh how is a direct manager a middle manager
sonic coral
I thought middle managers are the ones who are in between other managers
Hence middle
tardy geode
😭
now many companies will do 2nd round of layoffs
when will this bloodbath end
i am scared af
flat cradle
Cause the world is nasty
Ur nasty
sonic coral
Oh at google it’s interesting because we have team leads but like they’re technically flat on the management chart with the other ICs
split igloo
thinking about going back to Canada after my grad, idk if wanna do master in the US
sonic coral
So like they lead initiatives within the team and propose new stuff and review a lot of things
But don’t directly manage anyone
So it’s more like “code/system managers” vs “people managers” I guess?
sonic coral
now many companies will do 2nd round of layoffs
Twilio isn’t gonna be the Pandora’s box
Amazon is already on round 3-4
So is msft
A lot already did too
So twilio doing layoffs doesn’t mean shit
Honestly I think the investor pressure stuff is bullshit
These companies aren’t under any pressure they see a quick n easy way for execs to get a fat payday
Most of these layoffs were not needed
These companies have hundreds of billions in cash on hand they can do all sorts of buybacks and shit that doesn’t involve layoffs if it’s all about investor pressure
It’s pure greed, plain and simple
Pressure my ass
Im not talking the lil bois like twilio
Im talking the big bois
sonic coral
Yeah and faangs have like 3-4x that in CASH
ivory stratus
stocks are low and russian currency is plummeting
atomic oxide
Listening to y'all pretend to understand the economy is hilarious
ivory stratus
Listening to y'all pretend to understand the economy is hilarious
i understand jack shit about the economy
ivory stratus
Listening to y'all pretend to understand the economy is hilarious
all i know is big papi gives me money and uncle sam takes taxes
sonic coral
Listening to y'all pretend to understand the economy is hilarious
I don’t understand shit but it doesn’t take an economist to realize that most of these layoffs were artificially justified
tardy geode
ban LC please
ivory stratus
shut your mouth
yes they can
im a monkey
just give me money for leetcoding and grinding
most people arent at fang
it's top 1%
fallen fox
fallen fox
i havent done lc in 3 months
tardy geode
bro is cracked af
fallen fox
i had to look up two sum
tardy geode
faint igloo
can u elaborate on this part lol
tardy geode
LC in a whole doesn't prove that you are a better dev
sonic coral
Im just saying that the layoffs weren’t as needed as these companies claim
atomic oxide
Im just saying that the layoffs weren’t as needed as these companies claim
Why do you claim this?
faint igloo
like he worked at some random dying company
sonic coral
Why do you claim this?
Im not claiming shit I’m just making an observation that most of the leadership is short sighted af
With hindsight
atomic oxide
You can also argue that there was an opportunity to grow during COVID and now society is forcing every company to restructure
We saw it with banks and real estate in 2008
sonic coral
Society isn’t forcing shit, that’s what all these execs claim to excuse layoffs
faint igloo
lol ive heard of that
tardy geode
they been giving out those offers like pancakes
i remember last year they gave offers like this crazy , you interview at 12pm lets say by the evening you had offer letter
faint igloo
lol that was meta too in 2022 summer cycle
tardy geode
lol that was meta too in 2022 summer cycle
bro meta asked my friend two sum and level order traversal 💀
sonic coral
I know a former aime competitor who had a JS interview in soph year that he bombed and now he’s working for schwab for like 80k
atomic oxide
Getting a job isn't just about being insane at CS skills lol
sonic coral
Dudes clearly smart enough to be making bank upon bank at an hft
tardy geode
bruh why you reacting on your own message
faint igloo
only incentive i need is free food 😋
sonic coral
Whaddaya mean Bloomberg is doing fine
Yeah but then those companies will scale and eventually fall to the same bureaucracy
No one is immune
faint igloo
isnt the issue with rentech is that if they scale they impact the market and as a result the algos dont work
sonic coral
It’s actually funny I can look at the number of people who joined since I started
Around like 15k when I last checked in Oct/Nov
Hedge funds aren’t really a good comparison
Not at all imo
Rentech doesn’t do any research
Like public papers
Yeah they do? They have tons of papers out
Oh I’m sure
But my point is rentech doesn’t do ANY public research
faint igloo
but it they did wouldnt it render it useless if everyone uses it on the markets
sonic coral
Exactly my point is you can’t compare startups and tech companies to hedge funds / HFT
faint igloo
industry diff 🤔
sonic coral
Completely diff worlds
steady canyon
however id feel safer with openai because they are a non profit led org, and their sole purpose at openai was just that, research whereas google’s sole ulterior motive with the AI would be to make their recommendation system deadly accurate
sonic coral
The management structure at hedge funds is basically like the higher up you are the more risk you take on since your portfolio scale increases whereas at tech companies you can argue due to bureaucracy you take on less risk
steady canyon
and with openai they have shown amazing results in various ai fields
sonic coral
Hedge funds have less bureaucracy because the employees have higher stakes tied to their firms success
steady canyon
because he knows musk
chilly burrow
however id feel safer with openai because they are a non profit led org, and the...
No it isn't
Bruh aren't they profit minded now
steady canyon
now
well yeah my argument is pointless considering they were bought
but before that
fallen fox
How??????????
sonic coral
I mean yeah profitable elite divisions tend to be like that
Project Zero is also an elite division within G but they’re not profitable so they publish everything
steady canyon
i think openai had a very solid way to approach AI
sonic coral
Well it’s more profitable than security research for sure
steady canyon
thats why they won
steady canyon
they really understood, bit by bit how to make good models
sonic coral
I guess
steady canyon
also ive been following them closely especially since openai five
impressive work
ye
kinda like spacex
sonic coral
I still don’t think there’s a comparison because while there’s high impact in both employee risk is way different
steady canyon
tbh even the tesla hiring bar is crazy high
(compared to other companies of similar size)
sonic coral
I guess but I don’t see how that’s relevant
sonic coral
I mean it’s also scale
Like if you compare rentech to citadel for example
I think that’s more a coincidence than anything lol
vagrant escarp
how's the job search today bois
sonic coral
Idk if you can compare a lead researcher at open ai to a portfolio manager at rentech
I don’t think rentech has receptionists lmao
Oh yeah for sure
chilly burrow
I got an interview from em lol
sonic coral
They love physics phds
sonic coral
Jim Simons is the only thing that makes me proud of stony slightly
chilly burrow
Idk C++
sonic coral
Only slightly
wild igloo
I got an interview from em lol
same, no clue how or why. got immediately screened out though cause I stuttered/slightly messed up on what kernel version my ubuntu partition was running 🫠
chilly burrow
same, no clue how or why. got immediately screened out though cause I stuttered/...
I didn't do mine lol
vagrant escarp
ye just applied to that one too
fossil jewel
weren’t they the one that got caught slipping after the call ended lmao
vagrant escarp
weren’t they the one that got caught slipping after the call ended lmao
yooo oreo!!
vagrant escarp
im also part of the anti yahkuna club
vagrant escarp
she cant be makin that much money
fossil jewel
i think it’s cap
vagrant escarp
lol i hope so
fossil jewel
he can’t type more than 3 words
vagrant escarp
wait i thought it was a she
fossil jewel
also think that it’s he not she
vagrant escarp
oh
vagrant escarp
hahah
fossil jewel
if they identify as she then w.e
vagrant escarp
yeah i refuse to believe someone who only shit posts is making 500k
fossil jewel
nah the ppl making money are busy grinding
tho someone here landed hrt
but she been quiet
vagrant escarp
whats hrt?
vagrant escarp
nah he sent pic of his hand
u still got a picture of their man hands?
faint igloo
yeah i refuse to believe someone who only shit posts is making 500k
lol what if hes just "eccentric"
vagrant escarp
lol what if hes just "eccentric"
if i was makin 500k i would not be on this discord xD
im only in here cuz im unemployed and just searched up "cs careers discord" hoping to level up my game
faint igloo
now if u make 500k would it be because u joined this discord 🤔
vagrant escarp
now if u make 500k would it be because u joined this discord 🤔
what type of monkey is that
the one in ur pfp
looks like one of those fuckers from star wars
faint igloo
vagrant escarp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkCbehpGBME
YOOOOO I WANT ONE
faint igloo
bro i swaer that ones like groomed or something
vagrant escarp
thats gotta be like the cutest thing ever
faint igloo
ones u find in the wild are like really scruffy
vagrant escarp
ones u find in the wild are like really scruffy
yeah this one was def groomed
treated like the king he is
huh...they are offering staff engineer for a new grad?
chilly burrow
yeah i refuse to believe someone who only shit posts is making 500k
While it's up to you whether to believe someone or not this channel is not the place for such discussions
Please refrain from disparaging someone publicly as it is incredibly rude
vagrant escarp
While it's up to you whether to believe someone or not this channel is not the p...
lol bro
u cant take everything so serious
its not "disparaging" someone
chilly burrow
ITS MAN HANDS
Also please be respectful towards others identities
vagrant escarp
me and @pulsar mural are chill
chilly burrow
me and <@657980540665724938> are chill
While you may be chill with them
Someone reading the chat may not be
And may harass them or treat them poorly
So please keep inside jokes to the dms
@vagrant escarp please keep it to dms
teal jackal
weren’t they the one that got caught slipping after the call ended lmao
there is no FLIPPIN way
a lot of you wont be reviewed like 1000%
pulsar mural
@cedar nebula
vagrant escarp
are u able to avoid taxes this way?
chilly burrow
Nah
split plaza
lmao
chilly burrow
You're not supposed to
vagrant escarp
You're not supposed to
the company cant really expect them to not google search tho
people literally cheat hackerrank assessments
chilly burrow
the company cant really expect them to not google search tho
But you're not supposed to
chilly burrow
people literally cheat hackerrank assessments
That's unethical
vagrant escarp
eh
grizzled bronze
Yes you can, and you should. This is within the application itself, not an OA.
chilly burrow
Yes you can, and you should. This is within the application itself, not an OA.
Still unethical
vagrant escarp
id argue differently, as long as u are able to do the job once u get it
put in the extra work to study and learn the stack
chilly burrow
id argue differently, as long as u are able to do the job once u get it
I'd argue no
vagrant escarp
and plus everyone else does it
so ur kinda just a sucker if u don't
since if u think about it and the competition gets increased because everyone else is googling
kinda like saying "dont do leetcode" u might see the problem the interviewer is going to ask u
gotta play the game if u want to win
split igloo
how do you think about my answers
lament summit
how do you think about my answers
Congratulations, you’re hired
grizzled bronze
Still unethical
I'd argue it's not unethical, because OA explicitly states you can't look things up
chilly burrow
I'd argue it's not unethical, because OA explicitly states you can't look things...
Ok
pine topaz
@pulsar mural SHOW EM UR RADIX OFFER LETTER
vagrant escarp
flex on us
vagrant escarp
careful!!! @chilly burrow says u cant talk about that
split igloo
wow can I upload anything
neon perch
<@657980540665724938> SHOW EM UR RADIX OFFER LETTER
He wouldn’t do it
grizzled bronze
wow can I upload anything
"Recent poetry" = copy your ChatGPT history
vagrant escarp
chatGPT is actually clutch
its a good way to learn coding
sometimes when i see code i dont udnerstand i just paste it in there and it'll explain
fossil jewel
Also please be respectful towards others identities
oh no, yakhuna being called “she” is a joke
grizzled bronze
sometimes when i see code i dont udnerstand i just paste it in there and it'll e...
I'm surprised it's still free
fossil jewel
i’m not disparaging someone’s identity but if i did overstep, then i’m sorry
neon perch
I'm surprised it's still free
Well they do have a paid version too
chilly burrow
i’m not disparaging someone’s identity but if i did overstep, then i’m sorry
It's ok, just try to not joke about people's identities
neon perch
But yeah having a free and paid option is a smart move
vagrant escarp
yeah i mean same... from what i've seen no one in this discord has yet purposely tried to attack another person
most people are pretty friendly
fossil jewel
It's ok, just try to not joke about people's identities
ah yeah, that was never the intention
but i totally see how it can get misinterpreted
pine topaz
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