#2023_grads

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tardy geode
jovial latch
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c1 has given me so much anxiety

tardy geode
vagrant escarp
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are these "Mandarin MUST" positions scams?

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ive heard there are a lot of scam offers on linkedin and indeed

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not sure if ive seen any yet

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sweatshop?

teal jackal
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Is it a chinese company?

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I heard in singapore they use "mandarian required" on job postings to legally discriminate against non-chinese applicants

hasty birch
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Was supposed to have my Flexport final 1 hr 30 mins from now and it was just cancelled LMAO

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Oh well

teal jackal
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they JUST filled?

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shit

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i hope the last person who signed their flexport offer doesnt see this chat

lone rapids
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they signed so they good

teal jackal
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i mean

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like

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"Damn i ruined so many peoples hopes and dreams"

jovial latch
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Worse than LinkedIn

vagrant escarp
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platform

jovial latch
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Job boards just kinda suck in general, your best bet is just going through a few daily

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LinkedIn, Glassdoor, indeed

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Problem is a lot of companies love to put bullshit postings and have no regard for what entry level actually means

tardy geode
vagrant escarp
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so what makes a post a scam?

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the only ones i find that are scam like are the ravature ones, where they "train you" and sell your contracts to other companies for shitty salaries

nocturne oriole
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Short announcement to any friends, homies, users:

I'll be leaving the server, most likely for good. Definitely leaving as a mod. I've been modding for quite a while. And have always tried to keep a healthy environment across the board wherever I can. I've gradually become more intolerant of certain bad vibes here so I am usually aggressive and ban people. I'm not blaming myself per se, I think many situations have warranted it and I do prefer to cross the occasional line to keep things pushin P here because it's literally just Discord lol.

This place helped me a lot in early career but modding is very difficult and I saw it as a way I could give back. I spent early days shitposting a lot just like everybody here and even though I remember those days very well + I still see this as healthiest entry level CS community, it still has too many challenges and doesn't contribute a lot to my life now that I'm working. I wish you all the best, anybody is free to DM me for chatting or career tips. Thanks and much love!

vagrant escarp
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gl on ur ventures kirb, appreciate u

tardy geode
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good luck fellow kirby ❤️ , i would want to stay in touch though @nocturne oriole

fallen fox
errant gorge
vagrant escarp
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bro all the fkin kirbies are comin out

errant gorge
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I’m a waddledee goofy ahh boy

tardy geode
vagrant escarp
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is glassdoor a good place to apply? i feel like the process takes longer compared to linkedin or indeed

crystal hollow
hearty walrus
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we need a 2024 channel so i can post processes

sonic coral
hearty walrus
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Huge smartr L

chilly burrow
hearty walrus
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no idea

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smartr is entirely focusing on being an ATS it seems

pine topaz
unkempt forum
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do zoom recruiters call without notice

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I missed a call from "zoom"

teal jackal
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Yike

fallen fox
meager terrace
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yike

tardy geode
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secret = "ABC"
guess = "XYZ"

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are a,b like pointers ? i don't understand this statement

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consider secret and guess as those strings

gray dagger
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Damn that’s probably the best explanation I’ve seen for that

tardy ice
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are we able to see a list of all the companies we mentioned to the 2023 process bot?

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it would be cool to see what we mentioned in the past, as users

meager terrace
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that honestly would be cool

meager terrace
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nah tht's different. they're saying like specific to themselves

scenic wadi
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damn looking at 2023 numbers vs 2022 is depressing

tardy geode
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thank you so much , that is clear af . prayge

steel pumice
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man this is depressing

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are we allowed to apply to internship positions even if we already graduated

jaunty storm
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Progressive Insurance told me that I did well in the behavioral interview despite me being super nervous inside. This was a day after the career fair in person. They said that they may call me to go to Cleveland for final rounds. Anyone know what to expect?

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I’m still applying elsewhere just in case.

glossy galleon
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is anyone able to access this link?

sour spindle
glossy galleon
late kestrel
jaunty storm
civic roost
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Hey guys, I got an offer from Deloitte and wrote an email to ask a couple of questions and to ask for a salary increase, would you guys take a look at the email I wrote?

dusky tapir
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stacy recruiter will be all nice when shes giving me offer details and wants me to accept fast but when i approach her at the bar she says "ew go away"

tardy geode
west egret
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It does come off a little as bragging that they weren’t affected.

nova reef
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what's the point of making a post on how they're not affected

sonic coral
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This is the most cringe shit I’ve seen

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Some people are really desperate for attention gahdamn

west egret
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Like most of the post is centered around them.

nova reef
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u know what made the post even worse?

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that selfie

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lmao

west egret
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If they just wanted to offer help, they could have done that in a paragraph without a picture of themselves staring out some window.

nova reef
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could honestly just like/support/repost other people's layoff posts, that would be enough already

sonic coral
tardy geode
tardy geode
sonic coral
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Mans wrote a fuckin essay too

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Like it wasn’t just 2 sentences or whatever

tardy geode
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that too with emotes at the end of each para , attention seeking tactics 101

pine topaz
sonic coral
tardy geode
fossil jewel
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💀

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wtf is wrong with ppl

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some people think they're main characters

night marsh
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Why tf does Canonical care about how I ranked in high school or why I like the arts lmfao

tardy geode
fossil jewel
quasi umbra
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Is there anyone who has not gotten a reject from Flexport yet? Looking for some hopium

dusky tapir
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dude is a swe 3 at google and he writes a post like he just beat cancer or some shit. it was never that serious

night marsh
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I'm chat gpting this entire essay and I'll probably answer less than half the questions

fossil jewel
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i think they're based in Europe so maybe thats why its weird

night marsh
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absolutely ridiculous

sonic coral
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Like yeah layoffs were stressful for everyone but there’s no need to make a fuckin post unless you actually got laid off

night marsh
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Maybe, I'm not too familiar with European companies

jovial latch
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Angry times, angry fuckin times

night marsh
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but I don't think they ask you to write your life story

fossil jewel
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i think the linkedin algo prefers it when you do read more

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gets it more to the front page

night marsh
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I mentioned earlier in the thread but if the market wasn't so dogshit rn I'd just withdraw

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Only reason I'm going forward is because this role is at the exact intersection of my abilities

fossil jewel
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yeah thats fair, good luck

night marsh
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Thanks

fossil jewel
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good luck to all

night marsh
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Thanks b

sonic coral
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I heard rumors the reason canonical does this is to discourage external applicants and to mainly take referrals

night marsh
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That could be valid

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It's similar to SeatGeek which won't provide any relo support

sonic coral
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So legally they do hire externally

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It’s just a pain in the fuckin ass

fossil jewel
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yeah thats how they do it

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unfortunate

night marsh
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I've heard the process is long asf

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like 3-4 months long

sonic coral
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But there’s no laws for how convoluted your interview process needs to be 💀

fossil jewel
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@sonic coral how many rounds is g?

sonic coral
fossil jewel
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dude's cracked that he interviewed them instead

sonic coral
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Finals was 4 rounds, 1 behavioral 3 technical

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Everyone skipped phone this year lol

fossil jewel
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ah

sonic coral
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Also they’re making the finals 3 rounds now

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1 behavioral 2 technical

fossil jewel
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yeah that sounds more reasonable

west egret
sonic coral
fossil jewel
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instant reject

sonic coral
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Hey at least it’ll be instant

west egret
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Instantly finding out how dumb I am

fossil jewel
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i think google replied to me once with a rej

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months after

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i forgot

west egret
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You got a rejection?

sonic coral
west egret
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I’m still waiting for mine from last season

fossil jewel
sonic coral
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Wait did the person who commented get laid off?

fossil jewel
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all i remember is that last year i applied to lyft in aug and they sent rej in may

sonic coral
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L3

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Yes

west egret
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people need to see a pic of him to feel inspired obv

sonic coral
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Tf the guy say jealous for

fossil jewel
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yeah he did this for the algo

sonic coral
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Oh wait no SWE III is L4

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I get it confused a lot

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My offer letter says SWE II

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Doesn’t exist

west egret
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Intern?

nova reef
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III is l4

fossil jewel
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wait

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isnt L4 not even that high up?

sonic coral
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That’s literally it

fossil jewel
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💀

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bruh he's giving off "freshman in CS program who thinks he's the next iron man/elon/zuck"

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some people need their posting privilege revoked 💀

sonic coral
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That’s standard

nova reef
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just hope ur manager is not an ex-googler when u join

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or u might be hardcucked

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happened to ppl already

sonic coral
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Wait as in your manager being laid off?

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My manager is ex-zon but he’s actually mad chill

fossil jewel
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u guys got the big names

sonic coral
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My old manager was ex schwab

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But he got laid off sadge

fossil jewel
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lots of managers in jp are those who been there for a while

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i mean their focus is probably good WLB for family

sonic coral
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Two of my TLs each have 11+ yoe

fossil jewel
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if the pay is good enough and WLB is top notch, why jump

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esp if you have the stability

sonic coral
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All of my tls have families so this checks out

tardy geode
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💀

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egoistic fucktard that guy is

fossil jewel
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linkedin is really just facebook2.0

vagrant escarp
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Some of the posts I see on LinkedIn I just feel second hand embarrassment for them

sonic coral
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Stroking your ego for attention however

rain patio
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Lmao should i buy

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Finna make youtube video

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Fuck weong channel

whole berry
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the way most software engineers cant operate a stove

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these MREs should be standard issue for most recruits

vagrant escarp
sonic coral
pine topaz
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whats ur yt @rain patio dogesmile

rain patio
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Sanalovevlogs

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@pine topaz

pine topaz
west egret
teal jackal
shrewd ocean
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Is anyone getting any offers

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What’s the strat given this market

iron jacinth
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i am graduating in May and have no offers

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Did 2 internships in summer and fall. Both managers say no HC but have given very high performance metrics 😦

unkempt forum
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rip

tardy geode
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😭

iron jacinth
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We still have time

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yeah but all i see are rejects everyday when i wake up

shrewd ocean
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😩 how much tho

tardy geode
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for me even they reject coz of sponsorship

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idk man , its stressful af . waking up with anxiety everyday

shrewd ocean
tardy geode
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even there i get rejected

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😭

shrewd ocean
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😳

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That’s a good idea

tardy geode
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kaizen you international too?

shrewd ocean
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So Ye but I can get tn visa

tardy geode
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for TN visa is it just an app the firm needs to send right?

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or is it like H1b lottery shit

shrewd ocean
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Nah it’s not a lottery thing

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For tn visa u need an offer, company doesn’t need to sponsor u

tardy geode
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Ohh thats niceee

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better than this H1b shit

shrewd ocean
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Yeah but I need an offer 😂

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I thought I would be hot

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Commodity

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New grad with internships

tardy geode
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i have a time clock running

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that's the issue

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if i don't get anything until my EAD , post 90 days from it i would be kicked out

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😭

shrewd ocean
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Do u have any backups? Or are u trying to find ur first job

tardy geode
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no backups 😦 . just applying tryna get OAs or somthin

shrewd ocean
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My backup is nullified, my friends too 😭

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Oh I tried cold emailing and reaching out to recruiters at startups, most of they say they aren’t hiring or want mid - senior tho

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prayge hopefully one will give me a chance

night marsh
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Graduating May, did 2 internships previous summer and summer before that at a large tech company, plus worked for a local company as part of my senior design project.
No offers, 130 apps, 35 rejections and counting. Manager at the tech company as well as team wants me back as I got highest ratings, but it's a lot of work confirming a FT offer and it's ultimately up to a hiring manager separate from my team in the end. Still awaiting from them.

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But it's also my fault; I applied very late in the process for FT because I realized 1/4 of the way through my master's that I didn't want to do master's anymore right after undergrad as I realized the mistakes of specializing too early. Plus I'm burning out and my mental health is starting to take its toll.

nova reef
visual canopy
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Any one know about Viasat interview process??

night marsh
signal trellis
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sorry about this, we fixed this recently!

idle stump
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Hey I am seeing microsoft sde roles on linkedin? Are those real or is it just a legal gimmick? I applied to a role that opened on 10th February and on 12th February they said role is filled up (saw it on action center)

fallen fox
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cursed move KEKW_RECESSION_EDITION

rain patio
tardy geode
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Prayge for the weekend

dawn sequoia
vital leaf
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sad_cowboy depressed

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no offer.

idle stump
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Felt this

shrewd ocean
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Time to create our own jobs

vital leaf
idle stump
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Y’all think the situation id gonna improve in next quarter?

vital leaf
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nope

idle stump
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Thought so

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💀

tardy geode
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2023 is doomed

pulsar mural
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@tardy geode

tardy geode
pulsar mural
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dumb stupid burger Kirby

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fuck you

tardy geode
tardy geode
pulsar mural
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and guess what buddy, kirb left the server and isnt mod anymore

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so now I can bully u all I want

tardy geode
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bruhhhhhh

pulsar mural
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without getting banned

tardy geode
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if you get mass reported , discord would ban you .

pulsar mural
weary flax
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@pulsar mural stfu

rain patio
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STUPID CAT

pine topaz
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@pulsar mural SHUT UP I HOPE U GRADUATE INTO A DEPRESSION

pulsar mural
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@torpid vault can u accept my friend request

vagrant escarp
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@pulsar mural

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dogs are better

west egret
fossil jewel
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@pulsar mural fuck you, you big dumb cat

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go fail your OS project

vagrant escarp
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@fossil jewel are u graduated yet?

grizzled bronze
fossil jewel
vagrant escarp
fossil jewel
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yeah return from internship

vagrant escarp
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aye nice

fossil jewel
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i would give referrals but i think we met headcount for the ng class

vagrant escarp
fossil jewel
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ye bc i referred someone from my class the day i started and she said the apps are closed for the program PES_Hands

neon perch
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Is there anyone else who graduated in December ‘22 and is still looking for an opening?

livid yew
pulsar mural
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@vagrant escarp

vagrant escarp
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@pulsar mural

vagrant escarp
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@pulsar mural when did u graduate

jaunty storm
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This cycle has been very difficult. If I had the confidence and mental health in better shape, I could’ve gotten a little farther.

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But at least now I’ve been pushed to a new level. Would’ve kept my resume revisions in the low 60s. Went back to the drawing board again and again and I’m in the mid 70s with my revisions.

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I’m thinking about pushing my graduation to Fall.

tardy geode
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i revise my resume according to the Job Description so now i have like 22-23 resumes , with all combinations of tech stack i know and have worked on . this really helps

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applying with the same one resume did no good i realised

jaunty storm
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I don’t have a wide enough skill knowledge to pick and choose the stacks. I’m still learning them.

tardy geode
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i am international , i am having nightmares everyday .

jaunty storm
tardy geode
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i have been rejected on phone screens just coz i needed sponsorship

jaunty storm
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COVID shattered my confidence in the meantime.

tardy geode
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COVID is the root cause of all this bs

jaunty storm
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My biggest fear is ending up like Ben Simmons and being a wash.

tardy geode
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are you US or international?

jaunty storm
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Despite all my efforts.

jaunty storm
tardy geode
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oh i see, not in a as bad situation as me . just saying . i have limited time that makes it difficult 😦

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did you try defense firms ? where they req US citizens

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i see L3 Harris a lot

jaunty storm
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I’ve had faced racism in the hiring process. Rejected return offer, fired from jobs, used as a tax write off.

tardy geode
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omg hugs

jaunty storm
tardy geode
jaunty storm
tardy geode
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yeah they been hiring peeps

jaunty storm
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In the job hunt, I don’t see much opportunities unless I’m personally there to meet them or apply within hours of opening.

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And LC was not an issues for me this time around. Coming close to 430.

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I think closer to 500 is where I hit my limit and see diminishing returns.

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Mostly seen med-hard problems.

tardy geode
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oh i see ,what language do you use?

jaunty storm
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And system design twice.

jaunty storm
tardy geode
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oh ok

jaunty storm
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I’ve considered Python, but I know Java well.

tardy geode
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well you will get something , you don't lack the prep . don't feel demotivated . its not us its this trash market

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even i feel demotivated so many times but somehow try to keep at it and not overthink . but yeah its easy to say this but hard to follow

jaunty storm
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I’ve faced 2 bad markets going for new grad.

jaunty storm
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It’s affecting my relationships.

tardy geode
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don't be so hard on yourself .

jaunty storm
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To lose my first job just weeks before COVID. It took everything from me.

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Whole ordeal left a scar on my face.

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Yet somehow I keep going.

solemn spire
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We all are bro. Tired and exhausted

solemn spire
gray nacelle
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how has the new grad process been for yall?

jaunty storm
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2/3 of my last career fairs basically had 0 openings. Felt more like window shopping.

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I’m gearing up for summer. Going to swing real hard with 2 new projects and 500 LC under my belt.

gray nacelle
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Did you do internships?

limpid surge
jaunty storm
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I should’ve seen the signs and done a third.

vagrant escarp
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Everyone’s getting rejected

jaunty storm
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After the first 1000 or so. I was numb to it.

graceful crown
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how did you all access the ramp challenge?

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it just shows a long string of some kind

gray nacelle
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I suggest you try to figure it out

vagrant escarp
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ye just grind that leetcode and do some side projects so u'll be ready when the opportunity presents itself

graceful crown
chilly burrow
tardy geode
tardy geode
chilly burrow
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U r correct

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Gl

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Ur not supposed to discuss oa/application questions in chat

tardy geode
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do you guys even quantify stuff in the bullet points in your projects section?

timber rock
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it's kinda hard to quantify things for projects imo

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unless its like an actual app you published or something

teal jackal
timber rock
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but if it can be quantified, then definitely quantify it

tardy geode
tardy geode
gray nacelle
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Does ramp sponsor visa?

chilly burrow
vital leaf
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hakuna matata

vital leaf
vital leaf
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no offers still, hakuna matata

vagrant escarp
vital leaf
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👌

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its zero

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tiktok baby ghosted me

lethal spoke
graceful crown
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anyone completed ramp ctf?

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i got 3 of 4

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cant figure out the last one

earnest perch
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did anyone even hear back from ramp?

split plaza
chilly burrow
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Som1 on csMajors got an offer

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Nope, new grad

vagrant escarp
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how did u guys learn the CTF thing for ramp's initial question

chilly burrow
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They deleted the offer details but iirc base was around 150k?

vagrant escarp
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never even heard of it till i was filling out the application

chilly burrow
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I don't rmbr wat TC was tho

vagrant escarp
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@pulsar mural ur contributions to the chats are...

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lmao

pulsar mural
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WHO IS IT

vagrant escarp
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its u

pulsar mural
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NO ITS NOT

chilly burrow
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Literally 1984

chilly burrow
pulsar mural
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ITS NOTTTTT

chilly burrow
jovial latch
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Was up my jobless comrades

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(And comrades with jobs that have yet to be rescinded 🙃 )

rigid quail
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@pulsar mural is the one responsible for layoffs

tardy geode
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@pulsar mural y u do this

chilly burrow
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They deleted their message so I don't think I should share

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As they obv don't want it public anymore

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No clue 🤷‍♂️

tardy geode
west egret
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Yeah but they consider california rolls to be sushi. Ban worthy IMO.

tardy geode
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yakhub owns jane street and hrt

fossil jewel
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i’m jk

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it’s americanized

teal jackal
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Anyone a MA/other state with income tax resident and interned in-person out of state in a state without income tax?
If so, do you still have to report taxes to your own state?

timber rock
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prayge for the week ahead

gusty storm
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anyone know what the passing score is for the VISA codesignal?

wild igloo
grizzled bronze
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Next week is gonna be a great week prayge hopium

teal jackal
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DAMN apparently the health insurance is unironically
"have healthy people pay higher premiums and be forced to buy insurance to pad the expenses of those who are less healthy"

gusty storm
pine topaz
wind drum
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it’s fair to say that 2023 hiring so far has been about the same as late 2022 right

shut crescent
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has any 2023 grad been given an offer so far, specifically in the bay area?

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pls pm me 🙂

grizzled bronze
shut crescent
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ye markets pretty bad rn

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i only got one cuz internship -> part time -> full time offer

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cant even get other interviews rn

vague furnace
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has anyone interviewed with apple? if yes, how was yalls experience?

shut crescent
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like my applcation lol. cant get an interview with them

grizzled bronze
pure mauve
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Does junior typically mean 1-2 yoe?

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For junior SWE level

split plaza
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0-2 I think

shrewd ocean
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did u follow up with them?

jaunty storm
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Is it worth it?

lone rapids
lone rapids
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Get free interview experience i would say

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Moonlight if u r us citizen

vagrant escarp
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i guess its better than no job lol

jaunty storm
lone rapids
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U cant live with 45k no matter state

vagrant escarp
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avg salary is like 50ish k tho

jaunty storm
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I was paid less before as an engineer at an abusive job.

vagrant escarp
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but yeah being paid 50k as a software engineer, id rather just work at mcdonalds

jaunty storm
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It's just enough to live.

shrewd ocean
vagrant escarp
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yeah true, i guess it is better to get some experience vs none

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just do it for a year if u really have to

jaunty storm
shrewd ocean
vagrant escarp
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and u could even take it, and keep interviewing

shrewd ocean
jovial latch
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Lmao relocate to Florida for 50k

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Yea no fuck that

west egret
tardy geode
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i had this question , so when you edit your linkedin public profile . should we keep the experience details hidden ? meaning only to be seen by connections . Theres a toggle button for it.

lament summit
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Doesn’t really matter tbh

peak pike
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I was offered a federal entry-level position, but the pay isn't that great (obv benefits are great), but its across the country and it's in the field of AI/machine learning where as most of my experience/knowledge is in front-end. I've never been particulary interested in AI/machine learning, but the experience would be great. Should I consider it?

green oyster
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Hey Guys, Anyone Interviewed at Canonical?

peak pike
nimble cosmos
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Im curious, how many yoe to move on from applying to new grad roles?

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I'm guessing more than 1 year?

pale kettle
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i think you can always apply up (in terms of experience); after 1 year it seems to me that you are no longer a "new grad"

lone rapids
peak pike
lone rapids
peak pike
tardy geode
pine topaz
pine topaz
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well your behind then all of us then WazowskiStare

hearty walrus
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bruh there's this entry level web dev job posting i saw

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8 yrs of experience in angular

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Angular was released in 2016 kekw

gray dagger
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Probably meant angularjs

pine topaz
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anime pfp t_t

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i guess u can do anything when u have prestigous dogesmile

nova reef
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what's this guy's YoE if he's asking 400k

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better be 3yr+

tardy geode
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fk bloomberg

teal jackal
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anime girl pfp
works at google
has a pretty extensive "do not message if...." list

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What a CHAD

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this guy KNOWS what he's worth

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🔥

blissful tendon
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!process snowflake

cerulean basinBOT
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You can only use this command in 2022_winter_intern_process, 2022_summer_intern_process, 2022_grad_process, 2022_fall_intern_process, 2023_summer_intern_process, 2023_winter_intern_process, 2023_grad_process

timber rock
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yo anyone got a job for me

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thank you. i'll start tomorrow

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we dont

teal jackal
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ill sell u a job for tree fiddy

timber rock
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im only in process for 3 companies now, 2 have ghosted me for over a month and 1 wants me to make a whole ass app for them

teal jackal
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theres more to this based lad

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Grade: It exists
Done with school forever
Skills: Eric

timber rock
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nah

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it's a big digital bank

teal jackal
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interesting

timber rock
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the take home is kinda cool tp be honest. they let you use their development api that they use in the cpmpany

teal jackal
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I know shopify and cloudflare used to force applicants to do takehome apps as their auto OA

timber rock
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but its such an effort

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yeah i got cloudflare's one last year, didn't even bother doing it

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yeah

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i kinda like the companies that do recruiter screen > oa, the bank I'm doing it for rn does that

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it at least means you'll most likely get a response

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expedia was similar, oa > 2 hour final (reject tho)

scenic wadi
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expedia process was so nice

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application -> oa -> interview -> decision took less than 2 weeks

teal jackal
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it aint nice unless it ends in an offer imo

tardy geode
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imo amazon might change this , this is the one of the reasons they grew so big ass

timber rock
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No

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Starling bank

nova reef
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a lot of them are already gone cuz they're on visa

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cucked by the delay

tardy geode
# nova reef cucked by the delay

na , they will do some RA/TA shit or some contract job in the meantime . ik a few peeps who have planned this but its amazon they can even bail out last minute

nova reef
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yea that's fair

fossil jewel
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i mean prepare for it

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in case it does happen

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dont wanna fear monger but the postpone was likely due to figuring out financials

tardy geode
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is hackajob a staffing agency?

timber rock
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yes

tardy geode
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bruhh

teal jackal
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historically most voluntarily left after <2 years for a better faang or sde2 elsewhere, but a non-trivial portion gets pipped

shrewd ocean
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yeah my friend just started as a new grad, he said its a lotta work

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yeah but they do shove money down ur throat

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🤔

shut crescent
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shit boys im going in for a negotiation call tomorrow

pine topaz
tardy geode
rain patio
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lmao

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wtf

pine topaz
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who'se the bootlicker though

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dont be afriad to dox him

sonic coral
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Lmao is this a slack channel for fighting amazon rto

west egret
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the only thing worse than rescinding offers is delaying to rescind

nova reef
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how much did amazon give for delaying the offers?

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15k?

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pre tax right

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o shit

rain patio
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thats fire

arctic pine
west egret
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13k for lack of stability though

nova reef
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shouldve taken my zon offer

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jk

west egret
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not worth the mental anxiety

tired thicket
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Does Expedia only ghost or do they just take a while to review?

jovial latch
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was up y'all

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l3harris did a funny, after they rejected me, i spoke with em at the career fair, different guy, same location. then i get an email from the same recruiter as the first time asking for interview dates

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so i guess the takeaway is that recruiters dont put any effort into their jobs and shits fuckin random

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idk we'll see what happens

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itll be hilarious if i interview with the same people though

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that would be a bit awkward

jaunty storm
jovial latch
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anyway another week, another day of me asking if anyones heard from c1 bout the mldp program, the ah powerday or whatever

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recruiter told me last monday they were still in the process of deciding

earnest perch
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same PepeHands

grizzled bronze
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Soon! prayge hopium

earnest perch
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i barely see any new grad roles anymore

timber rock
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yea the past few weeks ive just been throwing out some intern applications

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havent seen many new ng postings

tardy geode
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depressed is an understatement

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😭

dusky tapir
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Brennan desling wants me frfr

late kestrel
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ong im such a catch

vagrant escarp
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@pulsar mural

unkempt forum
valid bramble
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so depressed. Interned at Meta, no return offer. Amazon offer delayed. I've been applying since June 2022. Still no offer

night marsh
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Same here. Keep your head up my friend, hope things work out as well

night marsh
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For anyone who worked at L3Harris and doesn't have C experience, how did it go?

vagrant escarp
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u got this! just keep working on skills that can make you hirable and eventually things will work out

night marsh
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I'm pretty awful at C

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Golang simp

wind drum
gray nacelle
obsidian crater
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haha it's seeming over for me

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thinking about just ldaring

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same

vagrant escarp
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lol

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i want job too

obsidian crater
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I've applied to so many places

vagrant escarp
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same

obsidian crater
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Nothing

vagrant escarp
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500+ at least

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maybe 600 now

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ye..i wonder when this hiring winter will end

obsidian crater
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same

vagrant escarp
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when do u graduate?

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i already graduated

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ye u got some time before u really have all of ur time

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just think that theres people who's been graduated since like fall of last year and still no job

obsidian crater
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SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE SMILE

vagrant escarp
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lol just memin on joe

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yeah it is what it is

obsidian crater
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I'm honestly thinking about a career in academia

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Sick of being a slave to corpos

vagrant escarp
obsidian crater
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university or something

vagrant escarp
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ah

obsidian crater
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my profs make $150K in LCOL area

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Some good ones make $200K

vagrant escarp
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damnnnn

timber rock
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want jo b

vagrant escarp
obsidian crater
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Idk want a job first

timber rock
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Applied to another 21 today

vagrant escarp
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stay optimistic

obsidian crater
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doomer

vagrant escarp
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i think there are a lot of jobs still, just imagine being the hiring person and looking at all the entry lv people

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half of em probably don't know how to code

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so they gotta filter out all the scrubs

obsidian crater
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True

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One of my friends graduated

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But he doesn't do leetcode and refuses to

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Jobless since May 2022

vagrant escarp
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if ur a experienced engineer, i dont think there will ever be a shortage of jobs

obsidian crater
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blind75 is hard man

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I can't do half the problems on it

vagrant escarp
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this is the exact reason tho...theres people faking it and not enough actual good engineers

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so it got over saturated

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if u are a good engineer, the demand will be there

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and especially since we are all at the entry lv, they gotta filter through a lot of bull shit

obsidian crater
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I just don't get dynamic programming lol

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Everything else I have done on blind75

vagrant escarp
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just memorizing isnt a good approach tho

obsidian crater
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Idk man, I got asked a DP question on an OA that wasn't from blind 75

vagrant escarp
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gotta understand it and know the trade offs between different solutions

obsidian crater
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That OA was ridiculous though

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6 problems in 90 minutes

timber rock
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oas are usually not pulled from leetcode

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but interviews are

vagrant escarp
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talking through that during interviews will show the interviewer u are better than the other scrubs that just spit out an answer and not really talk through their work

obsidian crater
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That's some problems

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But not for most DP problems

vagrant escarp
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i found that writing down the problem and trying to spot the trend/pattern helps a lot

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if u see that a new solution builds ontop of the previous iterations

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goddamn really?

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they be giving hard to new grads?

whole berry
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and org

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lol

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usually youll find this in AWS or robotics

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but even then this is rare

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if you get this in an interview just try your best

timber rock
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i got 2 hards for intern

obsidian crater
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it's over boyyos

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just lay down and rot

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There are too many problems to "memorize"

timber rock
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Lmao my oa basically told me step by step what to do, it was barely even a question

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Me rn

vagrant escarp
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i have 2 potential doors atm, if they all end up not working out its gonna suck😂

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how do u guys feel about working internationally?

timber rock
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I've been waiting nearly 2 months for my northrop grumman final after being told I passed lol

vagrant escarp
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ASUS

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yeah

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when i talked to the recruiter, they said the pay is competitive with US

timber rock
vagrant escarp
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and cost of living there is lower, so if he wasn't lying about that, it would sound attractive

timber rock
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Currently in the process woth Sony in tokyo

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No I haven't got the final yet

vagrant escarp
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tokyo sounds nice

timber rock
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Did both oas a few months ago

vagrant escarp
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but isnt cost of living there high?

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i dont really know but just guessing

timber rock
vagrant escarp
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yeah im really curious to see what the offer at ASUS will be like if i do end up getting an offer

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when i searched up what they pay SWEs there it was like 30k/year

pine topaz
vagrant escarp
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but i think if they hire from the U.S. i dont see how they can ever convince people if they paid that low

timber rock
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Wlb in big international companies are generally fine from what I've heard

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But japanese companies are bad

vagrant escarp
pine topaz
vagrant escarp
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dont mind be worked

pine topaz
vagrant escarp
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dont have a family yet

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work to get more experience

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does ASUS have good reputation if I end up looking to transition to a fanng?

timber rock
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Probably above average just cause its a tech company

dawn sequoia
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you can prob transition into faang after working at any company if you did a good job, became a better engineer

prime palm
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It's better than having no job

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Imo you don't need experience from a certain subset of companies to get into faang, you just need experience from any company in general

vagrant escarp
prime palm
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i don't know if that move would be worth it

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damn

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i mean, if you like travelling and have any particular interest in going to taiwan, sure?

fathom dagger
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I graduated December 2022

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Do I belong here on the 2022_grads channel

meager terrace
fathom dagger
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ight

prime palm
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i thought the same

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go to the channel you're hoping to work in basically

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i'm also a dec 2022 grad but i'm working 2023

fathom dagger
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right

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gotchu

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you guys found jobs or not yet

timber rock
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no :)

prime palm
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i didn't bother having false hope my summer internship would give me a return offer

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so i just started recruiting like asap in july

raw echo
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There should be meta internship group therapy

graceful crown
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No offer yet tho

fathom dagger
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oh nice

prime palm
fathom dagger
prime palm
fathom dagger
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ok no worries

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I'm stilll looking

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:/

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it's so fucked

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like it's making me depressed

prime palm
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ehhh it's my personal belief things will get better around march / april

fathom dagger
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it's fucking with me

prime palm
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i completely feel u on that one

fathom dagger
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I'm also ass idk

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I don't feel like I'm good enough

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graduated with no internship experience

arctic pine
fathom dagger
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so It's really tough out there

timber rock
fathom dagger
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it's really tough

prime palm
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:(

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i thought i would get EE though :(

prime palm
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i was so upset

timber rock
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bro when i interviewed there, the ONE topic i hadnt had time to study yet was dp

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"what are the chances they ask me dp? its only 1 question"

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and of course i got dp

fathom dagger
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bro

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it's so fucked that they ask dp

arctic pine
timber rock
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at this point im most likely going for a masters and gonna try again for new grad 2024

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its the only offer ive managed to get lol

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unless the few companies im still in the process for pull through

fathom dagger
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I'm also thinking about a masters

prime palm
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i would've preferred going back to facebook though

fathom dagger
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but like it's not gonna do anything to me

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unless I wanna go into academia

timber rock
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yea it just lets me try again in the next cycle and maybe get an internship this summer instead

graceful crown
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How y’all getting interviews without internships?

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Whats on ur resume?

fathom dagger
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lmao

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literally

arctic pine
fathom dagger
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I have no internships

graceful crown
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3 internships and i still dont get any interviews

timber rock
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good projects and a good uni

fathom dagger
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and can't get shit

fathom dagger
timber rock
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uni of edinburgh

vagrant escarp
fathom dagger
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yes sirr

fathom dagger
vagrant escarp
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really hope the current processes I'm in work out

timber rock
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and on my resume i have 1 full stack app which is barely done, 1 back end uber eats clone, 1 robotics group project, and a compiler

vagrant escarp
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gonna SUCKKK if i end up having to start from square 1 lol

fathom dagger
vagrant escarp
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i have 2 that i did the initial screen with, 1 seem like a decent fit, the other not super, but I'll entertain the company

prime palm
vagrant escarp
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and the 3rd one, I just did a technical survey for the company, hopefully that will lead into an interview

fathom dagger
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bruh brooksource contacted for a 60k-65k position in michigan

vagrant escarp
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spent a long ass time on the technical survey haha

fathom dagger
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like wtf

vagrant escarp
graceful crown
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At least yall getting calls bruh

fathom dagger
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lmao

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literally

vagrant escarp
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bro i havnt gotten into the technical interview yet lol

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at this point its all just practice

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a lot

shrewd ocean
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A lot aren’t *

vagrant escarp
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yeah but just not our demographic

graceful crown
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A lot but no one wanna hire me

vagrant escarp
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since we are NGs

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but id imagine the fanng people are getting snatched up

graceful crown
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At least 5yoe

fathom dagger
graceful crown
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Anything on the west coast at this point would work

shrewd ocean
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Can u refer me once u get in

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🥵

vagrant escarp
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haha same!!

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ill get u ur referal bonus

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ill kill the technical interview

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just need to wedge my foot in the door

fathom dagger
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where y'all look for jobs

vagrant escarp
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then ima break that shit open

fathom dagger
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linkedin

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??

vagrant escarp
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yeah mostly linkedin and indeed

fathom dagger
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from which companies

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.

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I mean this

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bruh but these are really good companies

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spacex

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palantir

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wyd now

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still interviewing?

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or got a ng job already?

vagrant escarp
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any of u guys in positions where u need a job?

fathom dagger
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got any intersnhip experience?

vagrant escarp
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cuz we cant be waiting till we get a NG SWE position

fathom dagger
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I really need a job lol

vagrant escarp
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no but i mean like...in another sector

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as a temporary income

fathom dagger
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oh

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where?

vagrant escarp
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cuz theres people thats been applying for 6 months+

timber rock
fathom dagger
normal palm
vagrant escarp
timber rock
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lost a lot when ftx died

normal palm
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double it and pass it to the next person

timber rock
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used to be at 60 figures 😔

vagrant escarp
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im bouta catch up to elon

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the thing about being the richest person in the world is u get hate for no reason

fathom dagger
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oh so you should be okay

vagrant escarp
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since ur the richest everyones salty and just finds reasons to hate u

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and say "if i had his money i would do ____" well thats why u broke

fathom dagger
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oh okay

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you got any interviews for bay area jobs in the works?

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or still applying

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oh dang

shrewd ocean
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Nope so far **

vagrant escarp
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which startups yall lookin at?

oak patrol
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If anyone living in poland, looking for any New grad SWE Opportunities, please DM me. My company is hiring for New Grads in that location!

dawn sequoia
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I haven't had much success with applying to startups as a 2022 grad

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fr

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F

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have you been applying?

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they just want experience in general.. like 3+

fathom dagger
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all companies are looking for 3+ YOE

dawn sequoia
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cs grad, no exp or internships, prefer backend

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I get some calls with them but rejected bc no exp.. idk why they can't see that from my resume

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yeah

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F

teal jackal
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I hope to do well there

west egret
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You could have gotten your offer delayed

dusky tapir
dawn sequoia
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class and leading a club during the year

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research a lil

dusky tapir
fresh lagoon
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zaiJ

neat umbra
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Does anyone know what happened to the Kirb 350? I bookmarked it to use later since it looked awesome but it appears to have been deleted when I tried to open the spreadsheet now. Anyone know if there's a version available online or if someone managed to copy it?

raw echo
vagrant escarp
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whats the kirb350? lol

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isnt the neet150 and blind75 enough?

nimble cosmos
vagrant escarp
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i do 150 for extra practice

neon perch
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Does Barclays usually respond after a perfect OA for that developer analyst program?

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The automated OA thing

arctic pine
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Got this email from Flexport this morning

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Although prob still a reject eventually

graceful crown
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What step was this?

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Onsite or team matching?

fossil parrot
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Is salesforce giving 150k base in seattle for return interns entry level?

tardy geode
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yeah ig

nova reef
arctic pine
graceful crown
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What position was it for?

arctic pine
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new grad swe

neon perch
acoustic skiff
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Hey did you get an answer to this?

arctic pine
night marsh
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If I see one more Associate/Entry level position that requires 2 YoE 🤬

livid yew
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True

faint umbra
night marsh
tardy geode
raw echo
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New grad vs Google with 2 yoe is a hard sell 😭

errant karma
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Time to be a serious farmer

autumn jolt
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Frustration alert: I can't believe how unprofessional and inconsiderate the Walmart recruiter was! After months of searching for job opportunities, I finally finally received a call from one place on Thursday last week, and they insisted on scheduling the interview for Tuesday (today). I put everything aside, including my midterms, to focus on preparing for the interview. I even took the time to learn a new tech stack that I had no prior experience with, just to increase my chances of success. I have been prepping so insanely for the last 3-4 days and was so determined to get a job this time.

And then, just before the interview, I had to chase the recruiter for the Zoom link they forgot to send me, only to receive an email from them saying they needed to talk to me. Couldn't they have told me earlier that they were not going to consider me? Why keep me hanging like that? They not only wasted my time but also shattered my hopes. I'm so so so disappointed. There's no energy and hope left now

pure mauve
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Lol walmart is ass my guy. I remember they forgot to send me a rejection letter a while ago

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also i remember I scheduled myself a final interview by changing one of their URL links to add my name for a final invite haha

grizzled bronze
jaunty storm
pure mauve
lone rapids
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lol

pure mauve
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i think i just changed the url link from phone to final or something

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dont remember awhile ago tho

teal jackal
pure mauve
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nah yea it b shit

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engineers dont get paid enough to give af

teal jackal
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walmart ecommerce is shit, its the worst of amazon, ebay, and aliexpress combined tbh

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I see no reason why anyone would in good faith use it

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aliexpress = no guarantee of quality
ebay = open platform, any scumbag can sell there
amazon = shit on walmart aint cheap

grizzled bronze
teal jackal
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good to know that walmart is still one of America's biggest scumbag billionaire corps

vagrant escarp
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It’s a dying business

pure mauve
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fuck bentonville

vagrant escarp
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They are getting out competed by amazon

teal jackal
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my dad considered moving there for walmart after getting laid off in 2011 but decided he didn't want to subject us to having to live in bentonville

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so he held out another month

jovial latch
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Their process is notably dogshit

teal jackal
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Looks like walmart is still the same scum of the earth that it was in the past

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damn

vagrant escarp
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I feel like the reason they are trying to get people to relocate to bentonville is so they could lure them away from the competition in the tech hubs

prime palm
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Isn't this why you look at fucking resumes first

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Jesus Christ

jovial latch
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Companies want you to relocate to shitty locations cause they're the only place you can work for in said shit location

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Sunk cost n all rhat

grizzled bronze
jovial latch
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Also yes, fuck Walmart

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Buncha cunts

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Nothing insults you by a non technical recruiter saying you're overqualified cause you have a master's

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Idiots